Winter Camping in snow & strong wind
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Food Recipe : I empty and break up a packet of Soba Teriyaki noodles into one of those Soup n Store bags from Lakeland. Put the little sauce thing in but don't open it yet. Also put in the bag either a chopped up pre cooked sausage like the Matteson's ones or take a tin of Mackerel or Sardines. All you need to do then at camp is pour boiling water in the bag to cook the noodles, drain off the excess water, mix in that Teriyaki sauce, then add the sausage or fish. Mix up in the bag and it is really nice and filling. Costs about £1.50 and tastes way better than the £8 freeze dried ones. 👍
Purchase a UCO candle and buy some bee's wax candles, the white candles contain petroleum byproducts which give off carbon monoxide, the bee's wax candles just give of CO2.
When you were doing this, I was in hospital with serious heart issues feeling well sorry for myself. Watching your vlogs has helped me recapture memories of stuff I used to do in the Lakes back in the day. Really cheered me up. Thanks mate. 🧙♂️
Hi John. I hope you’re feeling much better. I’m glad the videos helped.
You sometimes forget how beautiful the uk can be.
I love your crunch
Wow - I could literally feel the cold! You showed us an amazing beautiful landscape!
Freeze dried vegetables really help make it easy to create better meals. For example freeze dried veg, a Knorr side and some kind of meat makes an easy backpacking meal.
Top tip Paul to stop your mittens flapping around and getting tangled, get two large inch wide elastic straps, put them over your wrists (outside of coat) then tuck mittens under them. Keeps them out of the way and flapping around.
Hi Paul, like you I have eventually come round to a Hilleberg for a winter tent. Nearly 20years ago I invested in a Macpac Minaret 4 season tent and it was great in Skye, Toriddon and Wales as a bombproof, light, 4 season tent. I graduated to the Olympus when I became less bendy, it is superb. Macpac are rather underated in the UK. Us old boy winter hikers used to refer to tents as "winter tents" or " four season tents" or " bombproof tents". Paul take my advice and get yourself a bombproof tent. I now have an Akto, which is great and has very few compromises, it is a bit heavy, Good luck with the Nallo which is heavier. But please tell your numerous people that if they are going winter camping, upland in the UK, please get yourself a bombproof tent, they are out there and they make you safe.
Too bad macpac don't sell internationally. Only choice is to order from new Zealand. Although the prices are still fairly cheap even after taxes. Other problem is that they are out of stock almost always
Absolutely blessed to have that moment. Truly outstanding Paul.
Looks like a Polar expedition. I had to turn the heating up in my study watching this. Nothing but admiration for you and your exploits. Excellent video Paul. Stunning landscape. Thank you.
Hi Paul great video, however, I would recommend against microspikes in winter conditions such as this on the hill. This is full on winter walking/mountaineering and you would be better with full crampons and ice axe and knowing how to use them.
Microspikes may get you into a place where you think you are OK, but may not be able to get you back out which crampons could. I have no doubt that Mountain Rescue would be critical of anyone considering a day on the hills in these conditions using microspikes. Crampons also don't fall off as easily as micropsikes.
A nice simple meal I use in a reusable dehydrated meal pouch:
Moroccan couscous:
Per person
100g Couscous = 350cal
1 heaped tbsp dried cranberries = 20cal
1 heaped tbsp chopped walnuts = 50cal
7 chopped dried apricots = 50cal
1 tsp tagine spice mix
30g diced chorizo = 135cal
Total 605cal
Add 200ml boiling water, stir and wait 5 mins 👍🏼
When I can do, I'll get the staika or allak 2. Love the geodesic designs. And being tall I struggle to find a good one I can sit up in! When I went instore at go outdoors, they had buy 1 get 1 half price on all dehydrated and wayfarer meals so work out better value. 1 girl and her dog did a dehydration video and her mum makes what looks like a cracking spag bol!
Absolutely photogenic scenes Paul, thank you for bringing those to us, and well done on the Highland Spring sponsorship!
How does a frozen meal pan out Paul?
Home-made dehydrated cuisine:
I made a tomato, spinach and corguette sauce, dehydrated it in the oven.
I paired it with sosmix (a dehydrated veggie sausage mixture), some instant mash, and fresh spring onions.
Made for a very heart meal for two, the sausage mix is pretty sticky though, so it helps to have an easy way to wipe and rinse hands
Huel:
I use the cold drink powder, mixed with instant coffee and cocoa powder as my lunches. I can fill the mixer bottle with water from a stream, and I find it also makes sure I drink plenty during hikes
I also use a lot of the hot huel for evening meals (and lunches when I have a busy work day). Some of the flavours can be a bit hit or miss, and my wife isn't keen on some of the textures, but I really like the Pasta based ones, the korma, the madras and the chilli.
I mix it up in either a collapsible mug, or lightweight empty soup pot, I take pre-measured ziplock bags, dump it in, then add boiled water and wait a few minutes, job done
I have a few bags with 1 or two meals left in them, I think I'm pretty local (Rivelin area) so I could drop them off to you if you wanted to give them a try
I dehydrate all my food
Nesco Fieldmaster with 12 trays and liners for liquid soups
It is so simple
Just cook your favorite food dishes, making sure all the vegetables and meat is finely chopped
Put it in the dehydrator and leave for 10 hours
Put portions into zip lock bags
The savings are amazing
And you get to eat real food
Rehydrate by slowly cooking in hot water for less than 5 minutes
Tough camp Paul, well done... Next time pack what you're not immediately using away for the night you old sausage. It is just good S.O.P. in case of things going south. (also stops stuff blowing away in the night) 😉😄🌧
Class Paul and out with a mackem ...it definitely doesn't get any better marra ..cheers Paul all the best 👍 👌 😀 🏕🏔
Cheers mate. It was certainly and interesting camp 😂. Really appreciate the super thanks 🙏
Hi, great video, Paul
We were up there on Fleetworth also on Saturday night, great night. Luckily, we managed to shelter under the cairn.
Honestly, we're not following you, Sykes farm, last weekend, then Honister.
I think it's £15 for sleeping overnight, we parked for a £5
I know your pain,with cold hands,but luckily sleeping all night .😁😁
Me and my dad stayed on top of fleetwith pike same night we was nice and sheltered on the summit, can’t believe we missed you! Same as last video we went to Sykes farm but left because conditions wasn’t worth it then watched your video and you was in the cabin 😂 small world 🌎
Love your videos there really relaxing and nice to watch I am watching this in my tent all snuggled in my sleeping bag with my cat.
enjoyed that Paul. especially the beginning moaning about the car park 🤣. i agree 15 quid is a right rip of.
Hi Paul I’m sure your neighbour Mr Dickinson will give you a few tips on dehydrating meals I’ve seen them in his earlier videos, but you might not get him out of his ‘Pub Shed’😂
Ps great video ATB
Heyup Paul. Had same issue with my first set of micro spikes..
I replaced em and now we use electrical cable ties to strap em over the top of the boot foot. Not let us down since.✊️👍
Just trying the huel. The portion sizes are pretty small, I would need to double up at least... best and cheapest method for multi day trips for me is pour and store bags, one for porridge, one for tea, so not essential to wash up as you fill with boiling water every day. Dry a bag of veg in a dehydrator, then add 2 bags of noodles, soya mince, veg, and flavour. Boiling water into bag and let it sit in a thermal cosy for 15min. Repeat for porridge in morning! Cheap and healthy ish....
As a new wild camper I have watched all your recent RUclips uploads. And I have got to say it has been the most entertaining to date. Grade A for effort and tip my hat for giving it a go. Nail biting stuff at times. This will encourage people like me to also give it a try. Too marks
Mylar pouches for homemade chilli every time for me Paul. 👍🏻 Just iron them sealed. Happy days!
You are definitely crowned the king of extreme wild camping here in the Uk cheers for the vid Paul
Hi. BEAUTIFUL. SCENERIES. LANDSCAPE. AWESOME. AMAZING. HIKING. CAMPING.
Had a rough day working. This is just what I needed today. Thanks very much. 😊
Use the huel hot food when I am camping, it's good and works out cheap, but you do have to order in bulk. It is pretty tasty and proper food! Just a bit of extra hassle cleaning the pot out!
Great job Paul. I relate to wanting more tent space in such conditions. This looked a challenging one. Helps us appreciate the warmer, comfier ones
Parking is free if you’re a National Trust member. Membership pays for itself several times over in parking over the year at loads of places, especially in the Lakes.
Nice video. That weather is no joke. Takes some minerals to go out in that let alone spend the night up there. Kudos 👌🏼
I was just up in the Lakes with a Nammatj 2 last week and although it’s a bit heavier … it was really nice having the extra space on a long cold night. Not to mention it was rock solid during the early evening when I had wind. Enjoyed the video as always! ATB
I trust your digestive system has settled down - how does the tent cope when it’s an ‘inside job’?😂
@@missogyny4921 I’m confused?
Good to see you back on a trip paul, perfect video to enjoy at a warm home 😂
Great Vid, but it has sealed the deal, I am not a winter camper LOL I will get my winter camping fix from you LOL as I sit here in a Canadain wither storm sitting in the house nice and warm. All the best Paul, Thanks again for the vid
Another great video, thanks Paul! Pretty hairy conditions out there :) A shame about the spikes!
Regarding the tents, I think the Nallo 2 will suit you. I have a Nordisk Oppland 2 which is a very similar design to the Nallo 2 GT. I chose it because I wanted a 2-person tent that would be a palace for one, easy to pitch solo, with a large vestibule space. What I was surprised by was just how stable it is in very high winds. I've been in situations where I could hear the wind howling outside but inside the tent was completely still, which is quite eerie. Being a tunnel design you pitch it with the end facing the wind where possible, but if the wind will be especially strong and it is going to turn around in the night, or if there is no pitch with the right orientation, adding extra guy lines can help stabilise it against cross-winds.
As far as food goes, I use a variety. I often take fresh food for the first night away. Dehydrating can be a good way to reduce costs if you do a lot of trips, like you do. You can make it easier by buying some ingredients already dehydrated in bulk. I tend to mix up meals from a mix of home-made and prepared ingredients, which reduces costs and means you know what's in the meal but is also quite easy. Dehydrated onions and garlic are especially useful if you can find them - they aren't so much fun to prepare! Catering supplies stores sometimes have them in bulk bags. I buy plain freeze-dried beef mince to add to meals, since I feel the meat is the main food safety concern so I don't mind spending the extra for freeze-dried there. Dried herbs and spices are probably in your pantry already. If you have a dehydrator, celery is really useful as a flavour booster and it's often hard to use a whole bunch of celery at a time, so it makes sense to dehydrate some of it. Tomato doesn't dehydrate well (the flavour goes off) so if you want tomato flavour I'd recommend taking tomato paste in a tube. Another good idea can be to dehydrate leftovers. If you have leftovers from a meal that will dehydrate well, instead of putting them in the fridge to get forgotten about, put them in the dehydrator overnight instead. That's the easiest camping meal ever! There are some good groups on FB dedicated to dehydrating food if you want to learn more, usually from a food storage/disaster prep point of view rather than hiking but they have great info.
Interested that you might be considering a Nallo 2 for your adventures. My wife and I ( in our late 70s) continue to wild camp and have successfully used this tent for many years and can thoroughly recommend it. We only do 3 season now but have always found it very reliable and comfortable for two and the large porch helps in this respect. If you’re intending to use it for solo use then you will find the space palatial compared with the space you had available for this trip. We only have the one tent and although some may consider the weight too excessive for summer use we find the comfort and robustness worth the extra weight. We’re nothing to do with Hilleberg and this opinion of the tent is entirely personal. Thoroughly enjoy the videos, keeps the interest going until we can get out again.
Great video Paul. Bet that blew the cobwebs off!!
Fantastic viewing mate and very educational indeed, I absolutely enjoy watching your videos and the part at 26:57 into the post were you just looked at the camera and said, “ I might need my ear plugs tonight “ whilst the tent was bash both lug holes had me falling off the sofa laughing 😂😂, the look on your face when you said it with the tent slapping both sides of you just had me howling, absolutely great content and enjoy all your videos buddy🤝,
I am envious every time I watch you cook inside your tent. Here in east Tennessee, USA, if we cook in our tent we stand a very good chance of being attacked by a black bear. No food or food smells in tents.
Wow, every country has their own challenges. We don't have man eating animals just unpredictable weather. Think 🤔 I'll take the weather.
This looks so good. Thank you for sharing.
Lovely to see you back in action, Paul. Keep up the good work.
I can report that Huel is bloody good, certainly in terms of its nutritional quality. I haven’t tried their hot stuff, but I reckon it’s worth taking a look at.
Agree. Huel Powder, RTD and Hot and Savoury all good imo. Great mix of micro and macro nutrients.
"Tent regret". I used to get those all the time when I was 12 and 13. Always in the middle of class at school, during a service at church or at the dining table. No matter what I was thinking about I'd get tent regret for no reason. This was a hard-core video. You're ready for the Antarctic. I don't know how you stay so focused and cool. Brits are good at that. Cheers.
Awesome video Paul! Really enjoyed this adventure and nice to see you coming back to the Hilleberg crew 👍🍻
I have a nallow 2 20years have to say in those conditions I’d be thinking of double poles or stronger poles for serious winter mountain camping, have to agree that it’s not reasonable to expect super light tents to do well when the wind is strong enough to take chimney’s off and tip over high sided vans over.
Bio chef from evil Amazon is a good food dehydrator .
It’s actually quite a simple process lots of good Australian and American you tube info and several publications one to get hold of is The dehydrator Cook book for outdoor adventures by Julie Mosier is a good place to start, best thing is you can make meals that are big enough rather than trying to scrape the last rice grain out of the corner of a too tight foil bag😂
A lot of new backpackers seem to assume that expensive pre cooked ready made meals are normal such is the power of RUclips!
As an afterthought my equally elderly Akto would be fine in those conditions at 1.6 isn’t heavy tho you will need two mops for the condensation. No perfect tent sadly
Great use of the carabiners. Hooking up the tent/sleeping bag bags. Never thought of that. Stay warm dude.
Hilleberg Nallo 2 is the conclusion I came to, having also sold my Soulo some time ago. Nallo is the same weight as the Soulo, I’m sure as strong but more space and a more useable vestibule. I’ve also got a second set of poles, so should stand just about anything!
Great job Paul!!! You're the real deal!!!
Looked much like the weather we had the other night. great to get out in the snow though. Did try the Sothern Cross when it first come out few years ago now and didnt like it after one night. Got to spend your life lying on your side. Atb
Beautiful scenery and beautiful smiles. Very brave facing those cold temperatures and camping conditions. Im watching from my cosy bed, feeling a tad envious of you both, but grateful Im warm.
Thankyou for sharing, stay safe both of you ...
Wind speeds on weather forecasts are for ground level only. If you’re heading in to the hills you should double the speeds. If you’re up a mountain you also have more compression near the summit, hence gusts more than double the speed. Great video Paul 👍😀
Doesn't work like that. Count the isobars across mainland UK on the met office hourly surface pressure charts. Every one that crosses uk is 10mph at 400m height approx.
@@ianparker298 It’s a rough guide. No one is going to be looking at isobars charts in detail and even if they did they’re not accurate in mountainous regions.
@ApexCypher www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/maps-and-charts/surface-pressure. Took me about 10secs. Looking at the wrong data.
Wind speeds on mountain forecasts (such as MWIS) are given for the summits, not ground level. Whatever people do, don’t venture into the hills on the basis of normal forecasts.
@Miss Ogyny yeah agree but they only cover specific areas, not say the Ochils or large areas of the pennines. Its rough, and an average between wind and gusts
Wow! Fantastic video Paul. That snow blowing towards the camera! Love it
A good video that highlighted how even seemingly reasonable conditions can be challenging - that wind looked pretty rough at times.
It's really good to see you out for a big walk and top notch night out in the tent. I'd be kicking myself for leaving the microspikes out in the countryside too, but at least it wasn't a deliberate act of littering. I'm sure someone will pick them up in due course. I hope your feet have warmed up now, after that icy dip!
It’s a nice walk but not a big one, I’ve been there many times from Honister and it’s only a couple of miles. Stunning views though.
I love Huel. I drink the vanilla shake black edition (extra protein) most mornings and sometimes eat their savoury offerings for lunch. The Mac and cheese is tasty and with the addition of some sausage/chorizo would make a great backpacking meal
You certainly ‘walked the walk’ in this vlog Paul. Crazy conditions for UK but looked a great experience. Not been on for a while due to this ‘n that but slowly getting back into it. Hope you’re well too mate. Keep up the great work and be safe. 👍🏼
I thought I seen you at the car park on the way back down after I had spent the night on Robinson definitely was a windy and cold one, seeing this it makes sense now that it definitely was you 😅great video again Paul 👍
It was a mad night that! I was sat just over the valley from you 😂
A great camp and video. Well done
One of my favourite parts of the Lakes! Dubs Hut is a positively luxurious bothy just below Fleetwith Pike that I spent a night at with good friends a couple of years ago.
Awesome vid! Stunning views! Shame you lost your spike! Looks like very treacherous conditions out there! That’s a proper wild camp! Keep up the fantastic work Paul your amazing!!
I hope you get the old micro spikes back. I think once you are on any type of mixed ground there will always be a risk of them coming off. Crampons every time for me. There is a weight penalty, but that is worth it for the security they offer in staying on. Funnily enough I also watched a video yesterday of a chap climbing Beinn Dorain, near Bridge of Orchy, and he lost a walking pole. Fortunately he bumped into someone on the way down who had found it, so I’ve got my fingers crossed for you.
Fantastic views on the hills for you on that trip. Thanks for sharing.
Cous cous, red lentils, your own spices of choice, bit of chicken or beef or vegi stock cube. Salt pepper. 5 minutes in a pot, let it rest jobs a bloody good un !!!
You can always add meat proteins or fish as to anyones liking.
Light cheap and easy !! Works for me
I find pre bagged meals so salty, too salty even when we lose the salts while walking
That was definitely a night for a geodesic.......terra nova quasar. Anything short of that is compromise 😊
Hi Paul
You should even take a look at Fjällräven’s Abisko series. Great tents! The View 2 is incredibly versatile, very strong, can even be used for winter. Zero condensation and some nifty functions!
"Lets get me bum warm for starters". How many times have we all said that?! Lovely shots over Ennerdale, great stuff Paul. Hard as nails, mate.
Spikes at 3:50 - not quite as helpful as a GPS coordinate, I know. That looked rough, but end of day (start of the next one) you have to marvel that such a fragile structure actually kept you safe and dry, eh? Note to self: kick snow around the edges (or leaves) as a matter of course…
Stunning views as always paul! And even in frosty conditions. keep it up
awesome!!! thank for your video & take care~~
Brilliant video. I love my little Uco candle heater!
Great!
No Mountaineers in Holland😊
Another great outing Paul,sold my soulo because I needed more room ,as I any getting older I found getting dressed in the morning was awkward,so after watching Norwegian Xplorer,he uses the nallo3 ,so I bought the nallo2 no regrets Paul
That's a rough old morning but for sure I'd have made tea and porridge 😋 then packed up 😆
Enjoyed that great one 😊👍
Wow! That's a cold and windy camp-out. No doubt the Hilleberg tents are a good investment for harsh adventure conditions.
Looks amazing
Excellent video thanks paul
You need a proper expedition tent for the conditions. I couldn't put up with all that flapping about.
Day off tomorrow, good coffee and a rv date with the Mr Messner, that's my morning sorted pre NHS night shifts.
Paul ya a gud lad fello yorkie
Keep em coming Paul !!
Thanks!
Thank you for this. It is much appreciated
Tent is shaking to bits but Paul says “tents holding up pretty well though” 😂
That trip could and would have been bliss without that wind I’m sure
👌 great spirit of true adventure
Love the Uco mini lantern especially with 9 hour tea lights.
Great video I did think you'd miss your hilleberg can't wait to see your new purchase 😉
Excellent video Paul. Love your never say die attitude. You can't beat Hilleberg in my book. I love my Soulo. I don't think I'll ever sell it. Granted it is heavy but it gives me peace of mind. That is priceless in my book.
Excellent vlog guys!!! It’s so fab to be able to go along on the trip with you from the comfort of my arm chair!!! You guys are so brave!!!
That was a bit blowy lad:) Welldone Paul, not an easy camp. Glad you got down safely
It was a tough gig Sandy. The wind makes for a noisy sleepless night. All part of the adventure though. Catch up with you soon my friend
Awesome video man! Pairs very well with my morning coffee before work. Doing a hot tent overnight with a buddy this weekend. Cheers from upstate NY 🍻
Wild one that Paul 👍 thanks for taking us along with you 👍
Great video, a real bit of adventure too. Thank you very much, this is an excellent channel. Just one thing puzzles me is why you don't help each other out packing up in high winds as it would save a lot of flapping about while folding up.
Great vid Paul. And funny you should mention Huel as they just sent me some variations to test. It's tasty. I just got the Hilleberg Niak to use in non snow conditions. But for storms like the one you were just in I love my Unna. So simple, snow proof and zero faff. No vestibule but that means self supporting. Tony
Cheers Tony. I keep weighing up the alternatives. On a separate note I mentioned you in my next video. I stole your tarp tie out idea. Very easy adjustment. Thanks.
@@PaulMessner lol, you're welcome mate.
Five bloody quid for that! I gave up on dehydrated stuff years ago, If you are only away for a few days, tins of curry, less fuel, quick to heat and well tasty. Stamp the tins down and no bother to carry them out.
Might be small but for the weight it is a good tent that and can take a battering. Good vid well filmed .
If I was looking for a 4 season tent I think the TN Voyager would be up there. Well proven design. Many years ago I had a Vango copy think it was called the hydra and during a storm it was one of a couple of tents left standing, bit unfortunate as it then required me to take in another camper. Only reason why I sold it was I wanted a view whilst lying down so a got a TN Solar.
I have nallo 2 and just bought soulo. Nallo has really good room for even my use when i go to reserve army training and get full gear. Most can be inside and some get to be in the vestibule. Or if there a 2 people them you probly need tarp sometimes depending on the stuff you have.
all the comments about the colours/tones and skies......this is why winter is the best!
That was great, Paul! It looked both scary and exciting.
I've been thinking about huel recently too 👍 if I get some ill report back....but you brought back memories, I was in that area a couple of months ago....beautiful