Rushing in sc2 is to try and catch your oppnent unprepared while teching or expanding economy. Goal is to win right then. It might feel scummy if your plan is to go into mid and late game and you lose quickly but its a viable strategy. Rushing in wc3 is more about denying/delaying creeps and expo instead of outright winning the game right away. Rushing the base in wc3 is very hard because every race has innate defenses, and because unit counts and build times are much lower/slower, all their production is right there, where as yours is usually across the map.
@mewple very well said. I used to really hate WC3's speed, but after watching way too much SC2, I actually find the speed to be much more relaxing. SC2, it's like, someone walks into another person's army, and if they're on a move command, they just get slaughtered. By the time you check the map and move them away, most of them are gone. SC2 is like blitz chess, and WC3 is like UNO.
Yeah and ontop kf that you can do rushes at any time the game is very un understood there are so many possibilites that are unexplored cause they are risky
Gold league in most games is "still bad at the game but confidently bad at the game"- its why so many people get stuck there. At that point they are convinced they are good enough and know everything. Its just "something *insert cope* in the game or my team mates" holding them back.
I'm a new Warcraft fan, and I just bought Warcraft 3 Reforged yesterday after months of saving (Warcraft 3 Reforged is quite expensive in Indonesia, 600k IDR). And every time I search about Warcraft 3 on RUclips I always see your video, thank you for giving me knowledge about Warcraft 3. And i wanna ask something, why all SC2 pros and WC pros always click their mouse over and over again?
It's a sort of a warm-up. Just like a football player will stretch before a match, a wc3 player might wish to warm up their fingers. And cool! I hope you're enjoy the game.
lol, well if you want to be picky, then how does a single peon body become two skeletons? but yea, it'd be something if a tauren body gives you a giant tauren skeleton warrior
19:28 lol what kind of revisionist history is this? Somebody tell this guy games existed before 1998 and the FPS genre was alive and prosperous long before Half-Life and Counter-Strike.
The FPS genre wasn't called FPS before Half-Life, they were DOOM and DOOM Clones. Even Quake was called a DOOM clone at one point, despite having been made by nearly the exact same team as DOOM working on it. Half-Life did revolutionize the FPS genre, how a linear story is told, etc. Counter-Strike then swooped in and made the most tactical of FPS. All in 1998-1999. Unreal is in some ways better than HL, but it still had some Quake in it, since it came before Half-Life.
@@SyRose901 your first statement is categorically false. While yes Half-Life certainly raised the bar of how story telling and design can be done in the FPS genre to pretend like it created the term FPS or that the games didn't take off until it and its mod is so woefully wrong its laughable. Games were called DOOM clones colloquially because most frankly were but that wasn't their "genre". Again what is this revisionist history nonsense.
and the video was titled rushing as undead and it was an undead vs undead matchup (maybe that's harder I dunno), Grubby wouldn't even have to use that item to make blight
Hello, back in the day.. there was a double/triple hero mass ghoul rush that involved skipping most early building to go into tier 2 and relying on one zigg and tier 2 building attack as your only defense? Rush tk tier 3 tk get ghoul frenzy. Do you know what I’m talking about?
Damn it just dawned on me how crazy strong it is to worker harras UD while he's teching. Can't just pull lumber peons to fill the gold. Either you delay the tech massively or you put them out of gold for a while. If they don't defend well enough that is.
Still find it funny when people spam buttons, like they get a high apm 200 like this but their actual actuaions are like 24 that actually affect the game and the other 200 is just random/semi random button presses that just inflate apm count xD. Still Cool game,
At 1080p the video started skipping frames, i thought it was Grubby's ping issue, then realised it was the video. Never happened before. I wonder what changed
great video but you were wrong: half life 1 does have multiplayer and quake 1 had a campaign, also quake came first :3 wolfenstein or some insanely old game before that i forget the name of can be considered the first "fps" though, even if doom usually gets credit
31:50 wait the guy in chat says he hides his steam games so ppl don’t see he is playing an old game like wc3. How do you play warcraft3 through steam? Must be trolling. If not grow up
maybe he's seen people say that, or maybe he actually does it for other games and maybe he just came across Grubby's channel, and doesn't know warcraft3 and thought it was a comment that made sense
If you are talking about the last game, it is not very difficult to find your opponent in that map, as the map consists of only 3 narrow corridors with creeps scarcely spread along the sides When Grubby TP'd after trying to kill the goldmine, going to the lab camp into the red camp is the most logical decision, as the alternative is to run into your opponent's base when your army is weaker than them, or to walk across the map just to get to the same red camp. It wasn't a snipe, just a good map awareness by the opponent
@Grubby please advice gaming devices, which mouse and keyboard do u use? Thank u very much in advance!!! Your fan since 2005! I have 1730 MMR in the last year and a half, I haven’t played for 17 years with AsusWinter Moscow 2005 )
Best part of WC3 is that rushing just feels like part of the game, whereas in SC2 it makes you the scum of the earth
Rushing in sc2 is to try and catch your oppnent unprepared while teching or expanding economy. Goal is to win right then. It might feel scummy if your plan is to go into mid and late game and you lose quickly but its a viable strategy. Rushing in wc3 is more about denying/delaying creeps and expo instead of outright winning the game right away. Rushing the base in wc3 is very hard because every race has innate defenses, and because unit counts and build times are much lower/slower, all their production is right there, where as yours is usually across the map.
@mewple very well said. I used to really hate WC3's speed, but after watching way too much SC2, I actually find the speed to be much more relaxing. SC2, it's like, someone walks into another person's army, and if they're on a move command, they just get slaughtered. By the time you check the map and move them away, most of them are gone. SC2 is like blitz chess, and WC3 is like UNO.
Yeah and ontop kf that you can do rushes at any time the game is very un understood there are so many possibilites that are unexplored cause they are risky
8:14 "Useless!" And now we're to hear the famous last words.
last time i was this early i was the one rushing grubby
kinky
And you stayed for the long game.
@@dulaan5689 he loves the long game
@@rotyler2177Bruh, that 3 hours game play was the best.
Yes, don't ask me, I've stayed and watched that Whole thing from tip to end.
@@paulandreig.sahagun34 sounds exhausting
I actually never realized how good Frost Armor is until I saw Grubby talk about it and use it
And it costs almost little mana
13:40 pown tortal 😂😂
Gold league in most games is "still bad at the game but confidently bad at the game"- its why so many people get stuck there. At that point they are convinced they are good enough and know everything. Its just "something *insert cope* in the game or my team mates" holding them back.
Playing Bronze is best because you can play crappy builds for fun instead of chasing meta.
@@michaelbread5906 based take
19:25 Yeah but dont forget the only one Guy that use WASD in a Doom tournament for movement. ;-)
ok at around 9:38 the guy says he's a big fan of Grubby
according to Grubby that means he's going to tower rush Grubby, so I'm expecting a tower rush
I always thought of myself as a Grubbling so shortening it to Grubb(s) makes sense
I'm a new Warcraft fan, and I just bought Warcraft 3 Reforged yesterday after months of saving (Warcraft 3 Reforged is quite expensive in Indonesia, 600k IDR). And every time I search about Warcraft 3 on RUclips I always see your video, thank you for giving me knowledge about Warcraft 3. And i wanna ask something, why all SC2 pros and WC pros always click their mouse over and over again?
Usually to pad their APM numbers
It's a sort of a warm-up. Just like a football player will stretch before a match, a wc3 player might wish to warm up their fingers.
And cool! I hope you're enjoy the game.
how do u raise human skeletons from a lobster corpse??
lol, well if you want to be picky, then how does a single peon body
become two skeletons?
but yea, it'd be something if a tauren body gives you a giant tauren skeleton warrior
Skeletons are magical so i think as long as there are flesh and bodies , Skeletons will be summoned .
it's more crazy that you can summon a skeleton from a crustacean
19:28 lol what kind of revisionist history is this? Somebody tell this guy games existed before 1998 and the FPS genre was alive and prosperous long before Half-Life and Counter-Strike.
The FPS genre wasn't called FPS before Half-Life, they were DOOM and DOOM Clones. Even Quake was called a DOOM clone at one point, despite having been made by nearly the exact same team as DOOM working on it.
Half-Life did revolutionize the FPS genre, how a linear story is told, etc. Counter-Strike then swooped in and made the most tactical of FPS. All in 1998-1999. Unreal is in some ways better than HL, but it still had some Quake in it, since it came before Half-Life.
@@SyRose901 your first statement is categorically false.
While yes Half-Life certainly raised the bar of how story telling and design can be done in the FPS genre to pretend like it created the term FPS or that the games didn't take off until it and its mod is so woefully wrong its laughable. Games were called DOOM clones colloquially because most frankly were but that wasn't their "genre".
Again what is this revisionist history nonsense.
You barely had to aim in those games so I get it
"big fan of yours" The guy literally asked to get rushed xD
and the video was titled rushing as undead
and it was an undead vs undead matchup (maybe that's harder I dunno), Grubby wouldn't even have to use that item to make blight
Hello, back in the day.. there was a double/triple hero mass ghoul rush that involved skipping most early building to go into tier 2 and relying on one zigg and tier 2 building attack as your only defense? Rush tk tier 3 tk get ghoul frenzy.
Do you know what I’m talking about?
Damn it just dawned on me how crazy strong it is to worker harras UD while he's teching. Can't just pull lumber peons to fill the gold. Either you delay the tech massively or you put them out of gold for a while. If they don't defend well enough that is.
Still find it funny when people spam buttons, like they get a high apm 200 like this but their actual actuaions are like 24 that actually affect the game and the other 200 is just random/semi random button presses that just inflate apm count xD.
Still Cool game,
Grubudubdub should play the bug
Kinky..
At 1080p the video started skipping frames, i thought it was Grubby's ping issue, then realised it was the video. Never happened before. I wonder what changed
How do you do fellow Grubs
Start Question: How have you sent the ghul to the wood while you have marked the 3 akolytes as well? thanks!
I wish they had black and white color options like WC2. Those were the best colors.
great video but you were wrong: half life 1 does have multiplayer and quake 1 had a campaign, also quake came first :3
wolfenstein or some insanely old game before that i forget the name of can be considered the first "fps" though, even if doom usually gets credit
Nice ones grubby
It is good to buy TP for that fresh clean feeling when you need to go!😅
We need to lean into the headhunter saying its time for a little grub
is that how Grubby got his name? from a headhunter voiceline?
@@justanobody0 definitely not but I forget the true origin story
from his old DND character names Grub then got nickname Grubby w/o knowing what it meant in English
love grubby on ud, sooooo goooood
could a crow cyclone harass on acolytes be a viable strat?
What happened to undead rank 1 ?
Happy exists
Bnet has not been working properly the last few weeks
@@winterfall_0 ohhh so that's it. Thanks
I missed the notification by 3 hours, this video rushed me
What happened to rank 1 ud
If you could just make these videos every day, that’d be great. No more tursten. Ty. My goodness that guy is such a snoozer.
I want to see 100 players connect ffa WC3
Wolfenstein and Doom created FPS, not Half-Life.
death by catapult
Half-life spawned the shooter genre?... doom and wolfenstein beg to disagree
Grubby
31:50 wait the guy in chat says he hides his steam games so ppl don’t see he is playing an old game like wc3. How do you play warcraft3 through steam? Must be trolling. If not grow up
maybe he's seen people say that, or maybe he actually does it for other games
and maybe he just came across Grubby's channel, and doesn't know warcraft3 and thought it was a comment that made sense
@@justanobody0 plausible scenarios
you can also add games to steam but idk
He kinda felt like cheating, or sniping, he was right after you while hunting creeps
If you are talking about the last game, it is not very difficult to find your opponent in that map, as the map consists of only 3 narrow corridors with creeps scarcely spread along the sides
When Grubby TP'd after trying to kill the goldmine, going to the lab camp into the red camp is the most logical decision, as the alternative is to run into your opponent's base when your army is weaker than them, or to walk across the map just to get to the same red camp. It wasn't a snipe, just a good map awareness by the opponent
Half-Life is not multyplayer 😢 Sad but true. Fun to play with friends but it's not for everyone 😅. The Offsprings are though 😊 Differnet genre.
@Grubby please advice gaming devices, which mouse and keyboard do u use? Thank u very much in advance!!! Your fan since 2005! I have 1730 MMR in the last year and a half, I haven’t played for 17 years with AsusWinter Moscow 2005 )
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