Arum is a doily syndicate bigot. And it's necessary to use code words, because the syndicate's privilege is so incredible, that THEY can use racial slurs, but they are protected from rebuttal.
Over the decades Bob Arum and Don King have nearly ruined boxing. I think it's a joke Mayweather is the top draw in boxing. I'd rather watch reruns of Hearns, Hagler,and Leonard than him.
I think Bas Rutten is correct in saying that Arum's old age is partly to blame. After about 70, people really start shooting their mouth off because, I suppose, they figure they're so old that no one is going to do anything about it. They get irritate because they think nobody takes them seriously anymore so they have to make dramatic statements to remain relevant. Just my thoughts from personal experience.
Have patience with the elderly. What a disgusting and embarrassing comment to make. Lack of wisdom always shows, even from all the way behind your screen lol 😂🤦♂️
@@SK_Esskay It's not the fucking caveman days where all old people got to their age by being smart. It's the 21st century where you can get real old without learning anything of value.
And have AIPAC, ADL & SPLC after him to deport him back to Germany for alleged war crimes in 1943???? Bas Rutten is of course Dutch ( occupied by Germany in WWII) and was born 20 years after the war. But those are just annoying details and facts of course.
Bas should have launched into a rant about the skinhead insult. "Sho you call me a shkinhead? Well up here, der hair no longer growsh, sho I have no choice. I'm a shkinhead becaushe my mamma made me thish way!"
these comments were always funny to me considering most of the greats in the sport and from its inception are from all over the world. Gracies, Chute Box, Nog's in Brazil, Sakuraba, Gomi, Aoki and Yoshida from Japan. Shamrocks the States, Bas from Holland.GSP from Canada, Fedor from Russia, Igor from the Ukraine....That's just a very small list, but shows just how diverse the sport is.
MMA and boxing are totally different! Yes I agree that MMA fighters could whoop a boxers ass in more than one way because they train in more styles but a boxer could do the same to an MMA fighter in their own sport too! I love both sports but come on guys! This whole MMA vs boxing is old! It's like saying a sprinter could humiliate a heptathlons ass! Of course they can in their individual sport! But put Usain Bolt against Jessica Ennis-Hill in a multi-event and Bolt wouldn't seem so marvelous at all lol
Sean Curtis The caveat is that although an MMA could never beat a boxer in boxing, boxers can and do adapt to MMA (even failed boxers) and can win MMA fights e.g. Ray Mercer vs top ranked Tim Sylvia.
John O'Neill But why would anyone want to adapt to boxing, its more dangerous, the rules are extremely stupid and it doesn't represent a real fighting scenario.
+ Which mma fighters did well? Kickboxing is not a fully professional sport but go ahead. Mediocre or worse/failed boxers like Jens Pulver and Marcus Davis coped in mma. Failed boxer Anderson Silva was a highly rated mma competitor. Boxers have fare more lucrative pursuits than chase the chump change offered in mma, unless they are fat old addicted to drugs retired etc. For boxers mma is the senior pensioners exhibition tour. Boxing is a specialist skill sport, mma is a general skills sport. That’s why MMA will never get the public interest like the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout (or many others). But each has its value. It’s like junk food and fine cuisine. Enjoy both. They both have their place.
he sounds old. but i do agree that the rolling around looks bad made worse when some fightgo straight to the ground at the sound of the bell. has a mma fighter ever stood up to fight a boxer?
It's a flawed concept. Of course mma fighters would take it to the ground or the clench because it's the smart thing to do. If they know someone has a boxing background, why would they challenge him at striking unless they were a striker themselves? The ground game is an acquired taste. It's extremely complex and is very interesting once you understand what's happening.
Glitch5222 its interesting. Right up there with televised lawn mowing, golf, and pbs bingo. Youd get more action in an asian senate meeting then watching any kind of "ground game"
Boxing is a great sport, but you can't compare you're average boxer to you're average MMA fighter. The MMA fighter (particularly in the UFC) Is a far more well balanced and skilled fighter who is far more conditioned, skilled and technical because of the application of martial arts it their training regiment. UFC fighters are world class in their abilities, most UFC fighters today would put a modern boxer to shame even if the match was just a stand-up bout without any ground fighting etc. The grappling they apply via Judo as well as the powerful striking they gain through training in various martial arts such as a Karate, Muay Thai etc when combined with elements of boxing puts the striking seen in most boxing matches to shame. MMA is on a whole nother than Boxing. Boxing is one form of fighting, MMA is an arsenal of fighting techniques that includes boxing.
Professional boxing fight lasts ten times longer than mma fight. I wouldn't say they have worse conditioning and average boxer could beat average mma fighter just as well especially in boxing. Fighters like Junior dos Santos have won plenty of fights just by boxing. Boxer can be a lot more skilled in boxing than mma fighter and demolish. You make a lot of stupid generalizations.
jengaaaaa I'd disagree boxing fights go on alot longer yes,but by average you're average boxer is fighting a no-name fighter or somone with a sub-part record. Compare that to the UFC (or Pride before it) and the MMA fighters are fighting much closer competition by average and it's why it's almost impossible to see an MMA fighter win 30 straight fights in a row. While a boxer may fight a bunch of no names before fighting somebody worth while, the MMA fighter in the high up organizations is almost always fighting the best people in the division with every fight they go into. Take Kimo Slice as an example. His MMA record was pretty lousy, he couldn't even win four fights in a row and never became anything close to the UFC champion that his sponsors wanted him to be. However, when Splice moved to boxing, he did significantly better winning 7 straight fights in a row with far less difficulty. If the average boxer is better then the average MMA fighter, then how the hell did Kimbo preform so miserably in the UFC while preforming so well as a professional boxer. Or how Francis Botha was able to win 35 straight fights in his boxing career, but could barely win 2 fights in a row in his kickboxing career, or last more that 2 minutes against Yoshihiro Akiyama in their MMA bout. If anything stuff like this shows how much better MMA fighters and Kickboxers are by average then the average boxer.
Godzilla52 That is complete bullshit there are people like Brock Lesnar who trained very little in MMA and marched to the heavyweight champion position. And Kimbo fucking Slice will never be anywhere near the heavyweight champions of boxing. Saying Kimbo is even a good boxer is atrocious claim. Almost every division has a solid champion in mma like Jon Jones or Cain Velasques. There is little to no challenge for them at the moment. I think mma is a lot more entertaining but thats about it.
jengaaaaa For one thing, Lesnar was extraordinarily overpraised and only got the championship because Dana let him do it early (even though he probably shouldn't have and if Lesnar were in Pride, he would have never made it that far). For another His MMA record is pretty sub par (5-3). Secondly, I never said Kimbo Slice was a great boxer, I said he did alot better in Boxing because its true. Boxing is easier; that's why Slice was able to win 7 boxing matches in a row (all by KO) where as he couldn't even win 4 MMA matches in a row. Even really good boxers like Francis Botha didn't preform that well when the moved to MMA or Kickboxing. The quality for MMA fighters by average is just superior to that of Boxers. You mentioning the winning streaks of Velasques and Jones is ridiculous compared to winning streaks of guys like Tyson or Mayweather. If you look at the great Boxers in history, its not at all uncommon to see them easily win 30-40 (sometimes even 50) fights in a row because the quality of fighters they fight by average is nowhere near as close as it is in the UFC or Pride before it. For an MMA fighter to win 20 straight fights, that's a huge accomplishment. Anderson Silva, GSP and Jones are all considered to be some of the best fighters to ever grace the sport, but not one of them has won 20 straight fights without a draw or loss to break to streak. Your logic doesn't hold up. Plus with Werdum vs. Cain, there could be a new Heavyweight champion this year. Maywheater's not going anywhere and he hasn't lost one of his 47 fights and if you look at most of those names on wikipedia, more than half of them aren't even well know enough to have a wikipedia page or extensive profiles on most sports/boxing websites. That alone speaks for itself.
jengaaaaa just to let u know about jds. he won multiple fights with his boxing skills, but not alone, just look how much he trains grappling techniques. that training allowed him to use his boxing skills, he have great takedown defence and even when some1 takes him down he comes back up because he has trained 4 that. with boxing alone he couldn't be close to where he is. also if some1 trains grappling only he would have serious problems in mma fight because he's 1sided. every fighter have his dominant or primary skills but he must train other stuff because in mma, or simply street fight, against well trained opponent is much more useful to know more then 1 style.
And he doesn't mind using false racial slurs to make his point! But he's a Jewish Democrat who endorsed Hillary Clinton, so it's pretty much par for the course!
+Spiderman new don king? dude arum been steLing from fighters since before thrilla in manilla! don king is black so he got all of the negativity while euro jew arum flew under the radar
...another frustrated boxer that has no balls to step into MMA ring. this is for real men, kid. You stay there, protected by 1000 rules, bobing and weaving like a mental patient.
ardelean ion I thought boxers were the ones who step into the ring. MMa fighters use the cage or octagon. I dont know shit but Manny Pacquiao looked pretty good against an undefeated boxer/ex kickboxer the other night, actually, he beat his ass.
they got championship by winning against the champs... that there is racist fans doesn't matter on who wins! lol! it's not like you call in and vote for your favorite! lmao
The dude on the left is looking into the camera like "Whoa Bas, I'm not sure I wanted to be here for this." Bas wasn't pulling any punches here either lol
Thanks. Yeah, Ive been doing Sanda, Boxing, and Muay Thai for about 12 years combined. Also did some Kali and a bit of wrestling but never stuck with it. Whats your real name so I can look up some of your training videos or bouts?
Boxing is not dying it's actually coming in spades this year, mega fights just a few months away. And manliness aside, standing 8 counts are more technical and to me more pleasing than the MMA varient, which is more dynamic and exciting I'll admit, because when you get dropped and take a standing 8 count you now have to adjust and adapt, strategically figure out how to avoid whatever punch it was and however it was set up. MMA you see guys smell blood get reckless, and plenty of fights are
Let's leave this MMA vs.Boxing aside for time being. Now this coming UFC 146 between Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir. Who will win and why ? Any predictions ?
As an Asian, I didn't know I was a skinhead. I love mma and have yellow skin, no tats, and full head of hair (for now God willing). A classic skinhead.
dempsey did wrestling and judo as well. the problem is how MMA is perceived. MMA is a combat sport that an athlete can possibly make a successful transition to if they have experience in combat sports. succesful MMA fighters can be kickboxers, wrestlers, boxers, judo and jiu jitsu guys, muay thai etc. succesful MMA fighters at the top have had some kind of background in a specific art. so yes, boxers can be succesful at MMA, but it depends on the individual if they can make the transition
Boxing IS a martial art. So is wrestling. A boxer is just someone really good with their hands, so it's like if the mixed martial artists trained nothing but punching. But they have to train all things because it's a real fight instead of a punching match where anything goes, so they can't focus solely on punches and have to dedicate time to other aspects of fighting.
I can't believe a man that is involved with a sport where half the fighters have criminal records, fight fixing is rampant and is crawling with organized crime would make such a ludicrous statement.
+Johnny Kaldani It's the opinion of a highly regarded sports individual. Pretty sure you should speak up to such defamatory claims as this guy is making. Either that or like you say, just roll over and take the bs lying down.
at any rate...many many mma fighters lack the hand skills to keep a belt. punching/kicking takes YEARS to get good. ...grappling takes time to get right, just not nearly as much time to be adequate.
Boxing is about 100 years old, MMA is a mix of ancient and new fighting styles. If anything MMA is the more true fighting style, one must be good at a lot of disciplines to be a good MMA fighter. A boxer only needs to learn 3 things first, fast hands, second quick reflexes, third foot placement to lead in punches. MMA requires all that and how to grapple on to the ground, how to defend a tackle, clinch control, submission game. That is just basic MMA as well. To the laymen it seem like two dudes rolling on the ground hugging, but when one adds a modicum of prior knowledge when viewing these dudes, or past experience, you learn that it is just as fascination as any straight of fist-to-cuffs brawl.
please you want to know the truth about mma its just muay thai and jujitsu thats it two fighting styles thats about it .its not diverse there is no mastery too it .its just dirty boxing
***** how did couture beat him ? let me guess take down locked him up ? theres nothing old about mma its essentially kick boxing and ju jitsu .99% of all fights ive seen the fighters will use the same moves side kicks and hooks and jabs and when they dont work they spear them to the ground goldberg style and try and get them into a arm lock or somthing . lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill .mma was made a few years back theres nothing ancient about it there is no such thing as a master of mma because its not a real martial art like say kung fu is .a real martial art takes years to master thats why martial arts is so old and ancient .by it being compared to some ancient fighting style is just cheapening the culture it derived from .mma is something some stoner thought up at the last moment lets throw kick boxing and jujitsu together and call it mixed martial art . mma derives from backyard boxing its dirty boxing you can use kicks and grapples that's all it is .
***** do your research dude dont listen to guys like dana white and bas ruten , mma isn't a real martial art most martial arts have roots in self defense mma is for the sport aspect of it .the mixed just means there are mixed sport fighting styles i wouldn't bank on mma too save my life in a life or death situation on any day neither should you .stop drinking that koolaide and.quit listening to people who will get you killed in a real life fight.real martial arts teach self defense in street real life situations a mma teacher cant and doesnt teach you that .rules dont apply to a real fight
Find me a single fight where a boxer managed to NOT get taken down in a few seconds, except the Silvia fight. As I have said before, even while he was a champion no one had much respect for Silvia. Toney on the other hand had much respect and was an excellent boxer AND he actually prepeared for that MMA fight, and he still got taken down by an older fighter. Street, ring or cage, the boxer is getting taken down before he connect to the chin, and then its over.
It's really simple actually, why boxing is dying. People do not wish too watch 12 rounds, just using over-padded fists. MMA fighters are by far more exciting, bring more excitement to the screen. The big difference is, that a boxer is not able to do what a MMA fighter is able to do in a ring. I am not saying boxing is bad, far from it but in a real fight dancing around like a butterfly, and sting like bee with your fists. Is just complete bullshit, check what happened to Mike Tyson, he broke his HAND on a clocking a guy with bare fist. I do not call that winning. A MMA fighter, kicks like a mule and can take a real fight to realistic winning proportions compared to just a boxer. Boxing is done, even the punches you see in MMA are far from traditional boxing...and why they train at boxing gyms and dojo's? Because it's to get a good basic knowledge of techniques. After that, they will all join the MMA training schools out there, that take it to the next level. Sorry ...mere fact.
I disagree. At the high levels, boxing is still eclipsing MMA. They are different sports, but boxing makes more money. BUT, the reason at the regional level MMA is doing better is because they make their shows an event. They got the music, the girls, the atmosphere. Boxing is still stuck with old guys in hats and cigars... I used to box, now compete in TKD and am about to transition to Muay Thai (since I live in Thailand). They're all different. Can't compare, and shouldn't try.
Michel Linschoten Well that's true at one level, but certainly not at others. The top end earners earn more today than ever before. It's the smaller venues where boxing is hurting. not because of MMA. The idea that they are in competition is simply not true. Two different sports. They are not competing with each other.
Actually they are, tons of boxers call mma a joke. And tons of mma fighter challenged boxers to enter the octagon. Check the vids of dana white and floyd mayweather how they fire at one other. They are competing, it makes good media drama i guess.
I wouldn't even disgrace MMA's top fighters by putting them in the same room with a boxer. I'm confident undercard MMA fighters would wipe the floor with the best boxers in the world.
GSP: "Wow, I have to come out now, I'm a homosexual skinhead" lmao
Bob Arum I am not impressed with your comments. lol
Arum is a doily syndicate bigot.
And it's necessary to use code words, because the syndicate's privilege is so incredible, that THEY can use racial slurs, but they are protected from rebuttal.
I'm surprised the butt plug brigade hasn't tried to "cancel" him
How in the hell is anyone surprised? Robert arum obviously sees MMA as a threat to his industry so he'll badmouth it when he can.
lefu
Not a threat he just doesn't like it and poses his opinion..
The guy is in his 80s, a boxing promoter, and a Jew from New York City if he had a positive opinion about UFC/ MMA it would be surprising.
Notice that he lashed out at Whites? His tribe has been lashing out at Europeans for 3000 years because they fear us.
Still his opinion on MMA is worse than the opinion I've heard from casuals or non fans of the sport, he sounded the most ignorant he could
An old Jewish man falsely labeling people with ethnic slurs and bigoted stereotypes! He should be ashamed.
GSP wins this segment
bas is the man one of my personal heroes
Did you see Bas couldn't wait to fire back. Bas in reality is an extreme guy. I'm glad Bas is a positive influence.
Bas is great. Great ambassador for combat sports and a great human overall
so is GSP
Over the decades Bob Arum and Don King have nearly ruined boxing. I think it's a joke Mayweather is the top draw in boxing. I'd rather watch reruns of Hearns, Hagler,and Leonard than him.
Guys like Bob Arum are the reason that I no longer watch or spend one single penny on boxing ppv.
UFC fighter die broke and broke down 🤦🏽♂️
@@thegolden807 LOL YOURE MUSLIM
Hurt the guy, not the sport m8.
Bob sniffed to much powder up his nostral
Bunch of bums.... No sport is more fixed than boxing
I think Bas Rutten is correct in saying that Arum's old age is partly to blame. After about 70, people really start shooting their mouth off because, I suppose, they figure they're so old that no one is going to do anything about it. They get irritate because they think nobody takes them seriously anymore so they have to make dramatic statements to remain relevant.
Just my thoughts from personal experience.
Have patience with the elderly. What a disgusting and embarrassing comment to make. Lack of wisdom always shows, even from all the way behind your screen lol 😂🤦♂️
@@SK_Esskay It's not the fucking caveman days where all old people got to their age by being smart. It's the 21st century where you can get real old without learning anything of value.
@@americkseowdevries1443 thank you for your input 🤦♂️
@@SK_Esskay Your comment has nothing to do with Bob Arum's comments. 🤣
"...cries out in pain as he strikes you."
i like both sports.......i stream both sports......so even if the fights suck, i still win
Bas might have given Bob Arum a liver shot if Bob had said those things to his face.
+Dan S. He would probably rather laugh in his face..
And have AIPAC, ADL & SPLC after him to deport him back to Germany for alleged war crimes in 1943????
Bas Rutten is of course Dutch ( occupied by Germany in WWII) and was born 20 years after the war.
But those are just annoying details and facts of course.
@@afrog2666 Yeah right. He'd probably expire.
bang bang bang babiiiing
i will admit mma can look homosexual while theyre on the floor but you need to learn to appreciate JJ techniques. also arum is a jew
Last part confirms everything about his behaviour
Bas Rutten is one of the last real men; he is not afraid to call out fools wherever and whomever they may be. God bless you Bas!!
Imagine Rogan and Rutten as the UFC commentary team...
Bas should have launched into a rant about the skinhead insult.
"Sho you call me a shkinhead? Well up here, der hair no longer growsh, sho I have no choice. I'm a shkinhead becaushe my mamma made me thish way!"
Haha, now that's phonetics, good job:)
Azure701 actually bas shaved his head in his 20's after his modeling career. he was tired of styling his hair so he shaved it off
king budley liver
he spoke the truth lol, all bums who cant make it in boxing! cant box so did this new BS fake ufc boxing
Mahfuz Munir Khan PT you're fucking stupid saying it's people that can't make it In boxing why would an Olympic wrestler want to be a boxer
Bas Rutten is a living legend, a hero. A humble guy. I love him.
boxing is outdated like arum's skin.
Get him Bas!!!
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but when Bas finished talking near minute 4:00 I just started laughing. He's the Perez Hilton of MMA :-D
Dan Henderson could talk at one point
Leaving the controversy aside, watching GSP sharing the studio with Hendo on Inside MMA, the feels....
OMG imagine joe rogan in an argument with this guy haha i would pay to see it
Bas Rutten = absolute legend
“Rolling around like homosexuals” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kenny looks like he is always in fear of someone swearing. Haha!
these comments were always funny to me considering most of the greats in the sport and from its inception are from all over the world. Gracies, Chute Box, Nog's in Brazil, Sakuraba, Gomi, Aoki and Yoshida from Japan. Shamrocks the States, Bas from Holland.GSP from Canada, Fedor from Russia, Igor from the Ukraine....That's just a very small list, but shows just how diverse the sport is.
MMA and boxing are totally different! Yes I agree that MMA fighters could whoop a boxers ass in more than one way because they train in more styles but a boxer could do the same to an MMA fighter in their own sport too! I love both sports but come on guys! This whole MMA vs boxing is old! It's like saying a sprinter could humiliate a heptathlons ass! Of course they can in their individual sport! But put Usain Bolt against Jessica Ennis-Hill in a multi-event and Bolt wouldn't seem so marvelous at all lol
Sean Curtis The caveat is that although an MMA could never beat a boxer in boxing, boxers can and do adapt to MMA (even failed boxers) and can win MMA fights e.g. Ray Mercer vs top ranked Tim Sylvia.
John O'Neill But why would anyone want to adapt to boxing, its more dangerous, the rules are extremely stupid and it doesn't represent a real fighting scenario.
fanoffallen Errr...money.
John O'Neill many MMA fighters do fine in kickboxing and boxing bouts, no boxer can adapt to high level MMA.
+
Which mma fighters did well? Kickboxing is not a fully
professional sport but go ahead. Mediocre or worse/failed boxers like Jens
Pulver and Marcus Davis coped in mma. Failed boxer Anderson Silva was a highly
rated mma competitor. Boxers have fare more lucrative pursuits than chase the
chump change offered in mma, unless they are fat old addicted to drugs retired
etc. For boxers mma is the senior pensioners exhibition tour. Boxing is a specialist skill sport, mma is a general skills sport. That’s why MMA will never get the public interest like the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout (or many others). But each has its value. It’s like junk food and fine cuisine. Enjoy both. They both have their place.
If that’s what he thinks of white people imagine why he’s got to say about blacks
"Hey GOogle... Pull up the early life section of Robert ARum"
Cut to Bas, a skinhead white guy with tattoos. Lol. I love Bas though
he sounds old. but i do agree that the rolling around looks bad made worse when some fightgo straight to the ground at the sound of the bell.
has a mma fighter ever stood up to fight a boxer?
not without getting smashed on
It's a flawed concept. Of course mma fighters would take it to the ground or the clench because it's the smart thing to do. If they know someone has a boxing background, why would they challenge him at striking unless they were a striker themselves? The ground game is an acquired taste. It's extremely complex and is very interesting once you understand what's happening.
not to my taste at all, two guys on the ground struggling for the dominante position eeeehhh
Glitch5222 its interesting. Right up there with televised lawn mowing, golf, and pbs bingo. Youd get more action in an asian senate meeting then watching any kind of "ground game"
***** Have you ever heard the expression, "The sun even shines on a dog's ass someday"? Now apply that to your cited fight and there you go.
ariel helwani's greatest interview for damn sure... no other is even close
Especially people who have never been in an actual fight and know what a struggle it can be.
Leave my White Race alone
Boxing is a great sport, but you can't compare you're average boxer to you're average MMA fighter. The MMA fighter (particularly in the UFC) Is a far more well balanced and skilled fighter who is far more conditioned, skilled and technical because of the application of martial arts it their training regiment. UFC fighters are world class in their abilities, most UFC fighters today would put a modern boxer to shame even if the match was just a stand-up bout without any ground fighting etc. The grappling they apply via Judo as well as the powerful striking they gain through training in various martial arts such as a Karate, Muay Thai etc when combined with elements of boxing puts the striking seen in most boxing matches to shame. MMA is on a whole nother than Boxing. Boxing is one form of fighting, MMA is an arsenal of fighting techniques that includes boxing.
Professional boxing fight lasts ten times longer than mma fight. I wouldn't say they have worse conditioning and average boxer could beat average mma fighter just as well especially in boxing. Fighters like Junior dos Santos have won plenty of fights just by boxing. Boxer can be a lot more skilled in boxing than mma fighter and demolish. You make a lot of stupid generalizations.
jengaaaaa I'd disagree boxing fights go on alot longer yes,but by average you're average boxer is fighting a no-name fighter or somone with a sub-part record. Compare that to the UFC (or Pride before it) and the MMA fighters are fighting much closer competition by average and it's why it's almost impossible to see an MMA fighter win 30 straight fights in a row. While a boxer may fight a bunch of no names before fighting somebody worth while, the MMA fighter in the high up organizations is almost always fighting the best people in the division with every fight they go into. Take Kimo Slice as an example. His MMA record was pretty lousy, he couldn't even win four fights in a row and never became anything close to the UFC champion that his sponsors wanted him to be. However, when Splice moved to boxing, he did significantly better winning 7 straight fights in a row with far less difficulty. If the average boxer is better then the average MMA fighter, then how the hell did Kimbo preform so miserably in the UFC while preforming so well as a professional boxer. Or how Francis Botha was able to win 35 straight fights in his boxing career, but could barely win 2 fights in a row in his kickboxing career, or last more that 2 minutes against Yoshihiro Akiyama in their MMA bout. If anything stuff like this shows how much better MMA fighters and Kickboxers are by average then the average boxer.
Godzilla52 That is complete bullshit there are people like Brock Lesnar who trained very little in MMA and marched to the heavyweight champion position. And Kimbo fucking Slice will never be anywhere near the heavyweight champions of boxing. Saying Kimbo is even a good boxer is atrocious claim. Almost every division has a solid champion in mma like Jon Jones or Cain Velasques. There is little to no challenge for them at the moment. I think mma is a lot more entertaining but thats about it.
jengaaaaa For one thing, Lesnar was extraordinarily overpraised and only got the championship because Dana let him do it early (even though he probably shouldn't have and if Lesnar were in Pride, he would have never made it that far). For another His MMA record is pretty sub par (5-3). Secondly, I never said Kimbo Slice was a great boxer, I said he did alot better in Boxing because its true. Boxing is easier; that's why Slice was able to win 7 boxing matches in a row (all by KO) where as he couldn't even win 4 MMA matches in a row. Even really good boxers like Francis Botha didn't preform that well when the moved to MMA or Kickboxing. The quality for MMA fighters by average is just superior to that of Boxers. You mentioning the winning streaks of Velasques and Jones is ridiculous compared to winning streaks of guys like Tyson or Mayweather. If you look at the great Boxers in history, its not at all uncommon to see them easily win 30-40 (sometimes even 50) fights in a row because the quality of fighters they fight by average is nowhere near as close as it is in the UFC or Pride before it. For an MMA fighter to win 20 straight fights, that's a huge accomplishment. Anderson Silva, GSP and Jones are all considered to be some of the best fighters to ever grace the sport, but not one of them has won 20 straight fights without a draw or loss to break to streak. Your logic doesn't hold up. Plus with Werdum vs. Cain, there could be a new Heavyweight champion this year. Maywheater's not going anywhere and he hasn't lost one of his 47 fights and if you look at most of those names on wikipedia, more than half of them aren't even well know enough to have a wikipedia page or extensive profiles on most sports/boxing websites. That alone speaks for itself.
jengaaaaa just to let u know about jds. he won multiple fights with his boxing skills, but not alone, just look how much he trains grappling techniques. that training allowed him to use his boxing skills, he have great takedown defence and even when some1 takes him down he comes back up because he has trained 4 that. with boxing alone he couldn't be close to where he is. also if some1 trains grappling only he would have serious problems in mma fight because he's 1sided. every fighter have his dominant or primary skills but he must train other stuff because in mma, or simply street fight, against well trained opponent is much more useful to know more then 1 style.
I’m here from the fuuuuuuture and it’s still hilarious that they picked the bald white dudes for the rebuttal
The last statement nailed it. Arum is just trying to keep people watching his dying sport...
And he doesn't mind using false racial slurs to make his point!
But he's a Jewish Democrat who endorsed Hillary Clinton, so it's pretty much par for the course!
irony is both Ariel and Bas are skin heads! haha also GSP and Hendo!
RichCwm wow i guess Bob was just lucky huh . No whites make up most of the mma fan base especially white skin heads beer drinkers
Ariel is a Jew so he’s Arum’s kin, even though he’s a Mizrahi.
Who the fuck is Bob Arum?
+twomindz79 pacqauiaos promoter... the new don king
+Spiderman new don king? dude arum been steLing from fighters since before thrilla in manilla! don king is black so he got all of the negativity while euro jew arum flew under the radar
spike lee shine city
brian bowles lol
He is the diet Don King .....
Funny how we even saw Roberto Duran with Jorge Masvidal now lol
"DONNNNT TOUCH!!!!"
XD
I never liked Bob Arum....until I watched this!
...another frustrated boxer that has no balls to step into MMA ring.
this is for real men, kid. You stay there, protected by 1000 rules, bobing and weaving like a mental patient.
ardelean ion I thought boxers were the ones who step into the ring. MMa fighters use the cage or octagon. I dont know shit but Manny Pacquiao looked pretty good against an undefeated boxer/ex kickboxer the other night, actually, he beat his ass.
Boyleroster oneroster
in a boxing match.........
@@ardeleanion4435 Holly Holm crossed over to ufc and won title...name me one mma fighter to do the same ?
@@karld83women fighters don’t count
bas rutten is trying too hard, what arum said wasnt racist, he said white racists love ufc, which is true
they got championship by winning against the champs... that there is racist fans doesn't matter on who wins! lol! it's not like you call in and vote for your favorite! lmao
rar r That's not true.
Zeezorom Lars this from the same people who thought the earth was flat but i have the low iq lol hilarious
The dude on the left is looking into the camera like "Whoa Bas, I'm not sure I wanted to be here for this."
Bas wasn't pulling any punches here either lol
George's response cracked me up though.
I remember when this first went out, I was getting just as irate as Bas did there! 🤣
Thanks. Yeah, Ive been doing Sanda, Boxing, and Muay Thai for about 12 years combined. Also did some Kali and a bit of wrestling but never stuck with it. Whats your real name so I can look up some of your training videos or bouts?
Bas is 110% right about everything.
Dan Henderson hit the nail in the head.
holy crap thats the guy who fought captain america in winter souldier
Brian Bowles was right on point.
FIGHTS, chicken, RUN AWAY, HELP! FIRED! floyd
let Bas talk. i wanted to hear more about Arum's bullshit.
"Next thing, this is gonna be put it on youtube!"
:)
Boxing is not dying it's actually coming in spades this year, mega fights just a few months away. And manliness aside, standing 8 counts are more technical and to me more pleasing than the MMA varient, which is more dynamic and exciting I'll admit, because when you get dropped and take a standing 8 count you now have to adjust and adapt, strategically figure out how to avoid whatever punch it was and however it was set up. MMA you see guys smell blood get reckless, and plenty of fights are
Let's leave this MMA vs.Boxing aside for time being. Now this coming UFC 146 between Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir. Who will win and why ? Any predictions ?
I AM NOT IMPRESSED
Agree with that Santos has the upper hand.
Bad Rutten and Colin Farrell look like they could be brothers !💪👊
As an Asian, I didn't know I was a skinhead. I love mma and have yellow skin, no tats, and full head of hair (for now God willing). A classic skinhead.
dempsey did wrestling and judo as well. the problem is how MMA is perceived. MMA is a combat sport that an athlete can possibly make a successful transition to if they have experience in combat sports. succesful MMA fighters can be kickboxers, wrestlers, boxers, judo and jiu jitsu guys, muay thai etc. succesful MMA fighters at the top have had some kind of background in a specific art. so yes, boxers can be succesful at MMA, but it depends on the individual if they can make the transition
They cry 😭 out as they strike 🤛 you.
Verbal liver shot
i agree , we shouldn't compare them
Boxing vs MMA is like Firearms vs Firearms, Grenades, rocket launchers,etc..
Gsp" na na na" lol😂😂
Couldn't they get a more diverse panel for this argument?
brian bowles has a bowl-cut
Boxing IS a martial art. So is wrestling. A boxer is just someone really good with their hands, so it's like if the mixed martial artists trained nothing but punching. But they have to train all things because it's a real fight instead of a punching match where anything goes, so they can't focus solely on punches and have to dedicate time to other aspects of fighting.
Bas must be the only MMA fighter who's won big fights without steroids. How can that be?
When Arum said "rolling around on the ground like homosexuals" I couldn't stop laughing.
Boxing and UFC can not be compared. Respect each others crafts and focus on you're training. Not someone else's.
LOL if this guy has any PR reps ....I feel so sorry for them.
I can't believe a man that is involved with a sport where half the fighters have criminal records, fight fixing is rampant and is crawling with organized crime would make such a ludicrous statement.
i watch UFC and i have a full head of hair...
GSP....lol....Arum has corruption written all over 'em.
the guy on left of Bas made some pretty funny faces hahaha
It's just his opinion. Why make such a big deal? Always remember and never forget, "Sticks & stones may break my bones, but, words can never harm me."
"sticks and stones may break my bones but words always hurt more and leave me insecure" -boys these days
+Johnny Kaldani It's the opinion of a highly regarded sports individual. Pretty sure you should speak up to such defamatory claims as this guy is making.
Either that or like you say, just roll over and take the bs lying down.
UFC 148 broke its old record for viewers with 1.8 million. Considering this is a 20 year old sport, that seems impressive.
After the age of 70 most people stop thinking stop learning this is a prime example of it
at any rate...many many mma fighters lack the hand skills to keep a belt. punching/kicking takes YEARS to get good.
...grappling takes time to get right, just not nearly as much time to be adequate.
I'd like to see Bob Arum take a punch to the face from Bas and then say he can't throw a punch.
Boxing is about 100 years old, MMA is a mix of ancient and new fighting styles. If anything MMA is the more true fighting style, one must be good at a lot of disciplines to be a good MMA fighter. A boxer only needs to learn 3 things first, fast hands, second quick reflexes, third foot placement to lead in punches. MMA requires all that and how to grapple on to the ground, how to defend a tackle, clinch control, submission game. That is just basic MMA as well. To the laymen it seem like two dudes rolling on the ground hugging, but when one adds a modicum of prior knowledge when viewing these dudes, or past experience, you learn that it is just as fascination as any straight of fist-to-cuffs brawl.
please you want to know the truth about mma its just muay thai and jujitsu thats it two fighting styles thats about it .its not diverse there is no mastery too it .its just dirty boxing
***** how did couture beat him ? let me guess take down locked him up ? theres nothing old about mma its essentially kick boxing and ju jitsu .99% of all fights ive seen the fighters will use the same moves side kicks and hooks and jabs and when they dont work they spear them to the ground goldberg style and try and get them into a arm lock or somthing . lets not make a mountain out of a mole hill .mma was made a few years back theres nothing ancient about it there is no such thing as a master of mma because its not a real martial art like say kung fu is .a real martial art takes years to master thats why martial arts is so old and ancient .by it being compared to some ancient fighting style is just cheapening the culture it derived from .mma is something some stoner thought up at the last moment lets throw kick boxing and jujitsu together and call it mixed martial art . mma derives from backyard boxing its dirty boxing you can use kicks and grapples that's all it is .
***** do your research dude dont listen to guys like dana white and bas ruten , mma isn't a real martial art most martial arts have roots in self defense mma is for the sport aspect of it .the mixed just means there are mixed sport fighting styles i wouldn't bank on mma too save my life in a life or death situation on any day neither should you .stop drinking that koolaide and.quit listening to people who will get you killed in a real life fight.real martial arts teach self defense in street real life situations a mma teacher cant and doesnt teach you that .rules dont apply to a real fight
mma is a fighting game , boxing is a punching game !!
Do you mean Tommy Hearns? He was shredded.
0:42 Jeez 2009 was a different time wasn't it. couldn't say that shit today.
Mayweather fights at 147, GSP fights at 170. bit of a weight difference there.
Is this how they predicted Floyd vs Mcgregor fight?
you tell them bas ...
Find me a single fight where a boxer managed to NOT get taken down in a few seconds, except the Silvia fight.
As I have said before, even while he was a champion no one had much respect for Silvia.
Toney on the other hand had much respect and was an excellent boxer AND he actually prepeared for that MMA fight, and he still got taken down by an older fighter.
Street, ring or cage, the boxer is getting taken down before he connect to the chin, and then its over.
I pissed my self when GSP opened up with his joke.
Bas Rutten lays down the facts like a BOSS. Bob Arum's gotta check his facts first before talking.
Bob is not lying about MMA Fighters can punch for nothing Horrible boxing skills.
It's really simple actually, why boxing is dying. People do not wish too watch 12 rounds, just using over-padded fists.
MMA fighters are by far more exciting, bring more excitement to the screen. The big difference is, that a boxer is not able to do what a MMA fighter is able to do in a ring.
I am not saying boxing is bad, far from it but in a real fight dancing around like a butterfly, and sting like bee with your fists. Is just complete bullshit, check what happened to Mike Tyson, he broke his HAND on a clocking a guy with bare fist. I do not call that winning. A MMA fighter, kicks like a mule and can take a real fight to realistic winning proportions compared to just a boxer.
Boxing is done, even the punches you see in MMA are far from traditional boxing...and why they train at boxing gyms and dojo's? Because it's to get a good basic knowledge of techniques. After that, they will all join the MMA training schools out there, that take it to the next level.
Sorry ...mere fact.
I disagree. At the high levels, boxing is still eclipsing MMA. They are different sports, but boxing makes more money. BUT, the reason at the regional level MMA is doing better is because they make their shows an event. They got the music, the girls, the atmosphere. Boxing is still stuck with old guys in hats and cigars... I used to box, now compete in TKD and am about to transition to Muay Thai (since I live in Thailand). They're all different. Can't compare, and shouldn't try.
You can disagree all you want, boxing is not nearly as popular as it was back in the day. That's factual.
Michel Linschoten Well that's true at one level, but certainly not at others. The top end earners earn more today than ever before. It's the smaller venues where boxing is hurting. not because of MMA. The idea that they are in competition is simply not true. Two different sports. They are not competing with each other.
Actually they are, tons of boxers call mma a joke. And tons of mma fighter challenged boxers to enter the octagon. Check the vids of dana white and floyd mayweather how they fire at one other.
They are competing, it makes good media drama i guess.
Michel Linschoten They are not competing - they only think they are competing.
We've seen what happens when a boxer fights an MMA fighter, just see James Toney vs. Randy Cotoure or Art Jimmerson vs Royce Gracie.
You forgot about Sylvia vs Mercer
I'm a huge UFC fan but it is true that a lot of UFC fighters can't punch to save their lives nor do they have the same brick chins boxers have
I wouldn't even disgrace MMA's top fighters by putting them in the same room with a boxer. I'm confident undercard MMA fighters would wipe the floor with the best boxers in the world.
i mean defense to defend them selfs against an opponent. There's no need for a boxer to concentrate on self defense in a street fight
GSP is the dude, that joke was epic :D
It is ironic how Arum spoke out against Pacman's view on homosexuals but compares MMA fighters to homosexuals rolling around.
Bas Rutten's fucking awesome!! Love the guy!!