Letting this series just sort of die off after a fairly successful launch with Arise will forever astound me. Even the DLC they released of it reeked of them not wanting to put too many eggs in the basket despite that. I don't know, series feels like it's been in a decline since Graces and while I think Arise was...okay, it's hard to be excited for any possible futures with everything just feels like a downgrade of what came before.
I been a digimon fan for so long, bandai legit hates any interesting IP they own, even DB is not handled super well (fingers crossed for Sparking Zero), FighterZ was cool but then Bandai cracked down on FREE ADVERTISING, making streamer tournaments/non-licensed tourneys illegal, Digimon no new story game since like 2015. Just getting into Tales Of, seeing that bandai treats all their IPs like this is very sad.
It should be about time Tales series gets an equivalent of the Pixel Remasters. Basically some sort of a Memorial Edition preserving the gameplay of the classic series with slight tweak to the graphics to be able to switch between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratio. They can even resell them individually or as a bundle per generation (eg: set 1 is Phantasia, Eternia, Destiny, Destiny 2, while set 2 for Symphonia, Rebirth, Laegendia,Abyss, etc). Even the early series can be ported not just to the PS5 but also to iOS/Android and Steam.
Had to sub cause you was spittin. We've been hoe'd from Tales content to many time. It baffles me that we dont have a 2d collection of their old games. Then maybe like a Vesp,Symp,Abyss triple collection and then from there own port everything else to at least PC/Switch. I also agree on the translation situation. Ive been playing Hearts R on an emulator and i dont even carr that its sub only. As long as i can read it. They hate making money i guess.
I'm thankful for the fans and all their effort in doing what Bamco won't, but it is baffling at how much the company ignores their old catalogue compared to any other major studio. I appreciate the comparison of the f additions to Graces to what was put into the Arise DLC, or rather what wasn't put into it. It's so low effort. Your assessments are sensible; the future of Tales looks hollow and dire after its most financially successful entry. Bamco's taken a lead on Konami in franchise mismanagement 🤦♂
Agreed. After Arise's success, instead of investing money, time and manpower into porting or remaking more mainline tales games, they instead made more unsustainable mobile gacha tales that no one wants to play like Crestoria & Luminaria. Both games shut down very quickly after due to poor income. Both were money wasted. I don't understand why Bandai Namco always keep making bad decisions when dealing with Tales. Tales as a series could have been much more popular than now, only if they made actual smart decisions instead of fumbling around. Crestoria should have been a console title in the first place, not a cheap mobile gacha scam.
It wasn’t good that’s the problem. Even worse than that it didn’t add anything substantial to the game. It’s just more story and rehashed boss fights for 30 dollars that’s pretty unsatisfying. From berseria til now all we have is 1 mid new game.(Arise)1 bad remaster.(Symphonia remaster) and 1 bad 30 dollar “expansion”. If I’m whining it’s because before that it was just a solid stream of good games almost every year.
@@NoireUwU ok now I know you have bad taste. Tales of Arise is a great game and you're just mad that it's been 3 years. what you want them to reuse assets for the gazillionth time like they did with Berseria? plus, Xillia 1 and 2 took 2 years to localize.
@@GiordanDiodato Arise is a Solid jrpg on its own but compared to other games I think the combat is lacking. To me the combat is the most important part so it’s not my favorite. Yes I do want them to reuse assets what’s wrong with that? The franchise has always been a sort of low budget effort when it comes to presentation but they make up for it with complex and fun battle systems. Arise is very pretty, and I think the overall increase of production quality it right for the series. But if the gameplay is gonna be dumbed down so they can have flashy graphics I would rather they go back to reusing assets. Also the 3 years sucks but that’s not the only issue. That’s 50% of it. The other 50% is the release of a bad dlc expansion. And a remaster that doesn’t have much value outside just making symponia more accessible. Also ports of graces f, and xillia 1 and 2, have been wanted since before Arise even launched and 3 years after that game I still can’t play graces f on a modern platform.
Well Tales of Hearts R Vita did get a English version just NOT IN ENGLISH VOICE acting the reason for that is simple Namco/Bandai didn't WANT Hearts R on the Vita to LEAVE JAPAN Sony''s AMERICAN branch for video games FORCED NAMCO/Bandai to release Hearts R OUTSIDE of Japan which is why the voice acting of Hearts R for the American and UK version of the GAME still ONLY USES Japanese voice actors in it while the REST of the game is still in English. But due to the IMPORT voices of Hearts R when you use Demon Fang in Hearts R the voice actors still shout out the JAPANESE Majinken name of the attack in Hearts R for the USA/European version of it. Innocence R on the other hand for the Vita never left Japan. But yes the DS version of Hearts never left Japan the Vita version Hearts R is the way better version.
Tempest had bad reception Innocence was almost localized, but then the failure of Dawn of the New World and the 2008 financial crisis happened. Hearts DS I don't think was ever localized due to, again, the 2008 financial crisis
Yes it sucks I was still hoping for the PS1/PS2 games NOT Phantasia TO get a PS4 PS5 Switch port IE Destiny 1 Destiny 2 PS2 Eternia Legendia Abyss and Rebirth.
I'd like to see a port for Tales of Xillia 1 & 2. As of right now they're still only for the PS 3. Steam does have most of the Tales games so far, but I NEEED THAT XILLIA!! 🥲
The thing is steam really doesn’t have most of the tales games. We are missing abyss,graces,xillia 1 and 2, hearts R, symphonia DotnW, all the 2D games. I also don’t really count the version of symphonia on steam because it’s not 60 fps. And it’s really easy to get a 60fps version of symphonia on PC if you catch my drift.
@@GiordanDiodato you can emulate the game GC version on PC and get 60 fps that way. There’s also 4K texture packs and widescreen patches so it will look better than the steam version and the newest remaster. You will be missing out on some extra content and a few link attacks but I still think it’s worth it for the 60fps.
Edit: rebirth translation is also almost complete. A good chance that before 2024 ends all the 2D Japan exclusive titles will be 100% translated
Letting this series just sort of die off after a fairly successful launch with Arise will forever astound me. Even the DLC they released of it reeked of them not wanting to put too many eggs in the basket despite that. I don't know, series feels like it's been in a decline since Graces and while I think Arise was...okay, it's hard to be excited for any possible futures with everything just feels like a downgrade of what came before.
I been a digimon fan for so long, bandai legit hates any interesting IP they own, even DB is not handled super well (fingers crossed for Sparking Zero), FighterZ was cool but then Bandai cracked down on FREE ADVERTISING, making streamer tournaments/non-licensed tourneys illegal, Digimon no new story game since like 2015.
Just getting into Tales Of, seeing that bandai treats all their IPs like this is very sad.
It should be about time Tales series gets an equivalent of the Pixel Remasters. Basically some sort of a Memorial Edition preserving the gameplay of the classic series with slight tweak to the graphics to be able to switch between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratio. They can even resell them individually or as a bundle per generation (eg: set 1 is Phantasia, Eternia, Destiny, Destiny 2, while set 2 for Symphonia, Rebirth, Laegendia,Abyss, etc). Even the early series can be ported not just to the PS5 but also to iOS/Android and Steam.
they take time
Legendia will never happen because Japan hates it.
Had to sub cause you was spittin. We've been hoe'd from Tales content to many time.
It baffles me that we dont have a 2d collection of their old games. Then maybe like a Vesp,Symp,Abyss triple collection and then from there own port everything else to at least PC/Switch.
I also agree on the translation situation. Ive been playing Hearts R on an emulator and i dont even carr that its sub only. As long as i can read it.
They hate making money i guess.
a lot of the time, they lost the source code. plus Tales isn't nearly as popular as you might think.
I'm thankful for the fans and all their effort in doing what Bamco won't, but it is baffling at how much the company ignores their old catalogue compared to any other major studio. I appreciate the comparison of the f additions to Graces to what was put into the Arise DLC, or rather what wasn't put into it. It's so low effort. Your assessments are sensible; the future of Tales looks hollow and dire after its most financially successful entry. Bamco's taken a lead on Konami in franchise mismanagement 🤦♂
they lost the source code
Agreed. After Arise's success, instead of investing money, time and manpower into porting or remaking more mainline tales games, they instead made more unsustainable mobile gacha tales that no one wants to play like Crestoria & Luminaria. Both games shut down very quickly after due to poor income. Both were money wasted. I don't understand why Bandai Namco always keep making bad decisions when dealing with Tales. Tales as a series could have been much more popular than now, only if they made actual smart decisions instead of fumbling around. Crestoria should have been a console title in the first place, not a cheap mobile gacha scam.
we got a DLC back in September. ffs, be patient.
and I thought FF fans were whiny, Tales fans are even worse at times.
It wasn’t good that’s the problem. Even worse than that it didn’t add anything substantial to the game. It’s just more story and rehashed boss fights for 30 dollars that’s pretty unsatisfying. From berseria til now all we have is 1 mid new game.(Arise)1 bad remaster.(Symphonia remaster) and 1 bad 30 dollar “expansion”. If I’m whining it’s because before that it was just a solid stream of good games almost every year.
@@NoireUwU ok now I know you have bad taste. Tales of Arise is a great game and you're just mad that it's been 3 years. what you want them to reuse assets for the gazillionth time like they did with Berseria? plus, Xillia 1 and 2 took 2 years to localize.
@@GiordanDiodato Arise is a Solid jrpg on its own but compared to other games I think the combat is lacking. To me the combat is the most important part so it’s not my favorite.
Yes I do want them to reuse assets what’s wrong with that? The franchise has always been a sort of low budget effort when it comes to presentation but they make up for it with complex and fun battle systems. Arise is very pretty, and I think the overall increase of production quality it right for the series. But if the gameplay is gonna be dumbed down so they can have flashy graphics I would rather they go back to reusing assets.
Also the 3 years sucks but that’s not the only issue. That’s 50% of it. The other 50% is the release of a bad dlc expansion. And a remaster that doesn’t have much value outside just making symponia more accessible. Also ports of graces f, and xillia 1 and 2, have been wanted since before Arise even launched and 3 years after that game I still can’t play graces f on a modern platform.
Why didn't we get any of the Tales on the DS? They made three of them and we didn't get any of them.
Not even the vita remake got brought over either.
Well Tales of Hearts R Vita did get a English version just NOT IN ENGLISH VOICE acting the reason for that is simple Namco/Bandai didn't WANT Hearts R on the Vita to LEAVE JAPAN Sony''s AMERICAN branch for video games FORCED NAMCO/Bandai to release Hearts R OUTSIDE of Japan which is why the voice acting of Hearts R for the American and UK version of the GAME still ONLY USES Japanese voice actors in it while the REST of the game is still in English.
But due to the IMPORT voices of Hearts R when you use Demon Fang in Hearts R the voice actors still shout out the JAPANESE Majinken name of the attack in Hearts R for the USA/European version of it.
Innocence R on the other hand for the Vita never left Japan. But yes the DS version of Hearts never left Japan the Vita version Hearts R is the way better version.
Tempest had bad reception
Innocence was almost localized, but then the failure of Dawn of the New World and the 2008 financial crisis happened.
Hearts DS I don't think was ever localized due to, again, the 2008 financial crisis
@@veghesther3204 I think it's more like because the Vita was a colossal failure
Yes it sucks I was still hoping for the PS1/PS2 games NOT Phantasia TO get a PS4 PS5 Switch port IE Destiny 1 Destiny 2 PS2 Eternia Legendia Abyss and Rebirth.
Legendia will never happen because Japan hates it
Even Xenosaga series they won’t remastered or port it to modern consoles
because Monolith Soft is owned by Nintendo. and these are 3 massive PS2 games, two of which have two discs.
I'd like to see a port for Tales of Xillia 1 & 2. As of right now they're still only for the PS 3. Steam does have most of the Tales games so far, but I NEEED THAT XILLIA!! 🥲
The thing is steam really doesn’t have most of the tales games. We are missing abyss,graces,xillia 1 and 2, hearts R, symphonia DotnW, all the 2D games. I also don’t really count the version of symphonia on steam because it’s not 60 fps. And it’s really easy to get a 60fps version of symphonia on PC if you catch my drift.
@@NoireUwU No it isn't. the reason it doesn't go at 60 is because it's based on the PS2 version and in that version, framerate is tied to animations.
@@GiordanDiodato you can emulate the game GC version on PC and get 60 fps that way. There’s also 4K texture packs and widescreen patches so it will look better than the steam version and the newest remaster. You will be missing out on some extra content and a few link attacks but I still think it’s worth it for the 60fps.
@@NoireUwU they lost the source code to the Gamecube version so it was either not rerelease it at all or rerelease the PS2 version.