10 Beginner MISTAKES To Avoid When Doing Your Own PLUMBING! | GOT2LEARN
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Start - 0:00
1) Not installing drill/shield plates - 0:06
2) Not holding your fittings when cementing them - 0:51
3) Using plumber's putty - 1:29
4) Using PTFE tape as a sealer - 2:13
5) Not installing a brass/plastic sleeve with compression fittings - 2:54
6) Using your torch on low heat - 3:32
7) Not turning power off BEFORE emptying tank - 4:04
8) Soldering a valve with handle in wrong direction - 4:32
9) Not Deburring drain pipes - 5:04
10) Not using transition cement - 5:37
Ending - 6:17
DISCLAIMER: Got2Learn is NOT responsible for any damage done to a property of which the plumbing wasn't done by a professional, I do not recommend doing your own plumbing if you are unsure about what you are doing, always hire a LICENSED contractor when doing any type of plumbing so you can be covered by insurances if something does happen, these videos are for entertainment purposes only!
This RUclipsr knows his shit and this is all great advice. My friend bought a house that was updated/remodeled by a licensed contractor that installed new kitchen cabinets. Soon after moving in they started seeing water seeping through the wall. Said contractor screwed the cabinets right into either the water supply or the drain pipe (I forgot which) from the upstairs bathroom. Owner cost to get it fixed. Those steel protection plates are literally worth their weight in gold and then some in that case!
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It is code. It is there for a reason.
He gives good 1st year tips for sure.
They are also code in most of the country and the NBC. A sub is most likely the culprit. How did they get a plumbing or electrical Rough In with no protection plates . Jose might have done it but the Contractor is liable. Go to the Board for Lic. Contractors. File a complaint. Doesn't matter how long. He can be held liable for a violation. Go after the builder. It is Contractors like that that give good companies a bad name. I have seen it all. There are tons of unqualified people in the trades. Most wouldn't last until lunch with a qualified quality builder. I have seen some dozzies. Never assume a license means a company is good. Never buy a house or doghouse unless.you get a trusted tradesman to look at it. Most independent home inspectors are realtors. RUN.LIKE HELL. Most couldn't build a toilet. Because they read a book and know the terminology it doesn't mean anything.
Industrial, Commercial, Residential. All aspects of Construction. BC. with 50 years since 1969. Million.of dollars in all phases and trades.
Retired. Telecasterron. Sorry you had a bad experience. Go after the builder.
@@DonLicuala I see what you mean by him using the term “close/closed” in the electrical world a closed circuit means it’s powered on and an open circuit means it’s off but I’m pretty sure most folks watching this video understand what he’s implying and many probably have no familiarity with the electrical term “closed” and would easily understand that he means “off” at the breaker when servicing an electric hot water heater to prevent the heater element from burning out. When someone takes the time to make a video like this a lot of work and narrating goes into it. His point is made and is quite clear so commenting negatively about using one word wrong is sort of silly dude. The people get the necessary information I think.
As a Master Plumber with 35 years of experience I will say I've never used silicone on a basket strainer, pop up or faucet and never will. Plumbers putty is the correct thing to use in these applications unless a foam or rubber gasket comes with whatever part you're installing from the manufacturer. Even then plumbers putty always works better when properly applied and is easily cleaned off years later when taking things apart. I do paint the basket strainers, pop up flanges etc with a little grey Herculese pipe dope or Rectorseal and then apply the Putty. This is the way the "Old Timers" taught me as a kid and it has worked for me for decades literally. Other than this one small issue I agree with the video and people that are new to working on plumbing will find them useful.
That's how I was taught a little dope and plumbers putty ,that keeps the putty from busting out if the strainer turn slightly when tightening, or at least it seems to work for me ,and I'm a 30 plus year plumber myself, late 80's
We use putty at work. We do apartment building and old folk home. What do you mean with the dope like put it one before the putty?
@@wheelietime7062 what I do is put alittle megaloc on the sink just a light coat and put plumber putty on the basket and if the basket spends alittle it want push the putty out and cause a leak, as you probably know if that basket spends at all most the time it will leak but with the megaloc pipe dope on the sink it want cause it to leak, but some people might not like it but I've never had a leak since l was taught by a old school plumber way back when.
@Bes Besa them cheap plastic products are junk anyway so you have to do whatever works best for you, some time you have to think outside the box
Silicone is rated for 15 years. Putty is rated for 50 years.
I wouldn’t want to change a disposal, pop-up, or basket after a plumber that has used silicone. I’ve been licensed since 1993, and was plumbing 6 years before I got my license, so maybe I’m ancient. I have never had a problem with plumbers putty, I highly recommend it, it’s even gotten better over the years.
I just changed my disposal and they used silicone. It may be great for installs but the next person will want to strangle you.
So I guess that you remember that nasty stuff called okum (I think that’s how it’s spelled). Haven’t seen that used in ages .
@@paulrozinski1488 Yes, another fine hemp product.
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Me either plumber since 2002 and was always taught by the oldschool and putty all the way!!
Hey I'm a master plumber with 15 years in the trade. I normally agree with most of your points but I would say you're completely wrong about plumbers putty and silicone. Plumbers putty is the only thing that should be used in things like basket strainers, tub drains and shower drains. If used correctly plumbers putty will work for decades with no leaks. I've seen silicone leak before and it's almost impossible to remove from tubs and sinks to repair the drain. Silicone has its place and uses but not for sealing drains.
I do enjoy your videos though! Plumb on!
Thanks!!!
I was going to say that I only ever use putty for pop up assemblies and basket strainers. I am a 3rd year apprentice in Oregon.
Please guys after you silicone your shower drain. Take a rag and clean off the excess. It takes 5 seconds to do and it makes putting in the strainer much quicker.
I had a leaking kitchen drain, I used black atv gasket maker when the oring seal gave out. That bitch isn't going to leak... But it's also not going to come off vary easy either🤣... Granted going down both me and my grandfather when he was alive would (and still am for myself) more likely to change the sink and drain before the drain has to be changed.
@@zacharythebeau163 I gotta say man. If you have plumbing issues. Call a plumber dude. Not saying you aren't capable, but you can do some serious damage to your home. Any remodels any plumbing at all. Call a plumber. It might cost you a little bit of cash, but you can create 10s of thousands of dollars in damage, and not even know. If you are a plumber than disregard.
I’ve used silicone on bathroom sink drains and had leaks. Went back to plumbers putty and zero issues. Great video.
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Once it flexes enough and the silicone starts to lift it’s just a matter of time till the silicone has a leak channel in it. Plumbers putty is way better plus you can use it to clay bar paint!
@@dirtyaznstyle4156 No doubt.
My brother swears by silicone on all lavatories and kitchen sinks. I use putty. I can just picture having to go back and remove the drain with silicone. That has to be a pain in the ass to get off.
@@Scott-eo7lj no doubt. Removing old silicone is a nightmare. Removing old Plumbers putty is too easy. NEVER had a leak with Plumbers putty
Regarding turning off the breakers to a water heater you said "to always make sure you close the breakers"........ the circuit breaker is a switch, you must OPEN the switch to stop current flow and turn the power off.👍
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He is also french, this is just how that language words electricity use. French kids open the light in the morning and close the light in their room to go to sleep. English kids turn on or off the light. 2nd note: Don't go looking for the breaker on a natural gas water heater. It won't have one. 😃
Thank you for letting me know about the transitional cement. I did not know about this cement nor am I a plumber. Your videos are very informative and I do appreciate them
Got2Learn DUDE! I just happened to find your channel today. I am almost 70 years old, I still work, and have been doing property maintenance all my life. I am not a licensed plumber, but have done a great deal of soldering copper over the years. After watching a few of your videos, I learned soooo much. I took two pages of notes. My jobs have always been very clean looking and leak free, but there were always details and questions bugging me. Your videos solved all these little problems (proper heat application, proper heat location, vertical joints, soldering valves, tinning solder, low temp solder, water soluble flux, etc.). Thank you so much for making my life easier and more informed. I subscribed.
Best comment today, thank you so much for taking the time 🤜
good stuff... i've already made most of these mistakes unfortnately.
One plumber had put pipe dope all over the gas flare fittings to stove. Followed by 2 weeks of "gas smell". Finally dove into project and removed all pipe dope from flares after finding 2 leaky connections. No more leaks post cleanup....
No longer rely on plumbers and reserech each project...
When joining pvc or abs with cement, always give the joint at least 1/4 turn after inserting the pipe in the fitting. (Plan for this and insert 1/4turn out of final orientation)
This alters the way the glue molecular chains orient from in line with the pipe to around the pipe, making the strands act as rings and reducing the chance of a leak.
Then hold the joint 30 seconds.
Check your pipe cement's cure time.
I noted the 24 hr cure time to a supervisor, but he decided to pressurize the pipe after just 1 hour and blew out the last joint completed. Inspection showed over half the joints completed that workday had shifted to have inadequate overlap, so we had to spend 2 days cutting out and repairing the pipes.
Thank you Boss…
This is why I hate PVC/ABS and prefer cast iron.
Thanks for the tip
30 seconds? Damn
Solid, useful advice backed by concise and logical explanations. Rarely do I bump into videos this clean and valuable.
Liked and subscribed as a result.
Thanks for posting.
(P.S. Here in the UK plenty of 'professional' plumbers make these mistakes as well. I'm a DIYer, which means I'm slow but very careful, very precise and very methodical. 🙂)
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I have seen a couple of your videos now, and you are a lot more informative and real than most on RUclips.
So many of the "handyman tips", including ones for cars, that show up in this forum are simply bogus.
Well done.
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It also helps when you glue a fitting on to pvc to give it a 1/4 turn, it also makes a better joint.
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Silicone needs to set before wet conditions, directions usually want 24 hrs.
Mistake number 11, run water in a sink after the p trap is removed.
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So true. Opening one without running water first is just gross.
I mean, it does require time to set, however, it can take water within minutes of being applied. If you used silicone for something like a shower drain or kitchen sink drain, that fixture can still be used almost immediately.
@@lostmoose7352 it can happen to the best of us, usually only once.
11 1/2 : put the P- trap water in the same sink that ya just removed it from... Don't don't..! Lol.. 😂
I have done many commercial tenant improvements & one of the biggest fails is the plumber tucking a water line inside a metal stud. Absolute no-no. A millwork installer ran screws into the studs as spec'd on the drawing package. After sitting all weekend the channel at the bottom of the wall carried water into 3 adjacent suites.
The flooring, trim, sheetrock & other details needed replaced. WHOOPS!
Turn Plastic pipe 1/4 turn for best connection, don’t just push straight
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Agreed. Plus, I hold it in place (like he says to) for 8 seconds to be sure it doesn’t back out.
I do that and then wipe the excess glue into the joint with my finger. Figure it can’t hurt and makes the joint look neat.
@@huejanus5505 i do that to, nice username btw.
@@Got2Learn Thanks. Although my wife thinks it’s stupid.
I have looked all over the internet, asked friends (as well as hardware clerks) for the past year and no one could tell me what those brass or copper inserts on compression fittings were for. I give up... find this video in my feed and now I finally know. Thank you. I'm going to check out some more of your videos and probably subscribe.
Awesomeeee, thank you so much Kelli!!
This inspired me to check and see if my refrigerator water feed line has one installed. Thanks!
The word is "ferrule". Also, better to use a plastic compression ring instead of a brass ring, it tends to hold plastic tubing better. Brass rings are for copper tubes.
Lol I'm not surprised the only time I've seen those used is if someone wants chrome water lines and drain for a pedestal sink. The brass ones are for metal but will work on the plastic tubing that used to be used on fridges. We're not allowed to use the cheap plastic tubing for a fridge anymore. We always run a shut off valve box in the wall behind the fridge to appease the inspector.
Glad you finally learned but I swear it says that on the packs (I’m not looking at one though).
I ALWAYS appreciate every single one of these tips and that you reinforce the same techniques over and over again . I know zero about plumbing but feel like I can give it a try at least 👍
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Helpful video, ive never seen transition cement before, we normally use a mechanical compression fitment when doing from PVC pushfit to solvent ABS
Get educated before you do work. NOT AFTER
All my copper solder jobs are done with a regular (blue) propane tank attached to a three foot long, flexible propane hose, attached to the torch. The torch has a built-in spark trigger. It’s a lot easier, especially in tight spaces. Most of my soldiers are done with a low flame. A good quality nozzle (like BernzoMatic) will not overheat and deform.
I also, always carry a small fire extinguisher in my kit, as well as a folded, rectangular piece of galvanized sheet metal to use as a flame shield.
Excellent and clear explanations in this video.
Thanks for the great tips! I also like how you started right in. You did make me sit thru a minute of nonsense at the start.... like so many others.
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Years and years ago on the show This Old House tv show a plumber, not Richard but another said as a joke, ABS pipe abbreviation stands for All Black Stuff. I've always remembered that when I see it and it puts a smile on my face.
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Ah, be careful, there is white ABS, best way to check, small dab of ABS cement on a fitting or pipe, after few seconds take you finger nail, scratch it, if you dig into the fitting or pipe it’s ABS, vice versa with PVC, but PVC glue can soften ABS, start with ABS first.
We,call it another bullshit system✌️
my fave thing about the strengths of your channel is you always go over these issues again and again.
Thanks Thor!!!!!!
hell yeah! a new one! always the greatest walk through on the issues
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Thank you for sharing this info! My brother installed a water supply to his new fridge this weekend and forgot the brass ferrules, he wasn't going to redo it because it wasn't leaking. I just let him know to redo it.
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I’m still glad I saw the tip about wrapping the ‘teflon’ tape around a pencil ✏️ then applying it to a thread in a very tight space!
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I learn something new every time I watch your videos! Thank you for sharing. Although I'll probably continue to use plumbers putty in sinks because habits. But I can absolutely see why silicone would work better over time!
NO. NO SILICONE. EVER.
Its an act of ignorance. Honestly
@@olderdude5711 Funny enough, a solid surface shower pan I'm installing calls for silicone. I'm told plumbers putty can discolor some substrates. Although I'm not sure why that's an issue if it's under a drain and invisible to the user.
I just recently installed a complete Moen bathtub and shower set. For the drain I used silicone sealant at first and had leaks each time I tried to apply it. I followed all of the directions and let it cure properly and no matter what I did it leaked. It didn't matter how much of that stuff that I packed in there between the fitting and the tub, it's still leaks no matter what. Not to mention the curing time made it to where we had no shower until it was cured. I used plumber's putty and had zero issues, and the shower was ready to use immediately. Not to mention the silicone sealant made a complete mess whereas the putty is easy to clean up and looks professional.
Your videos are always spot on!!! I'm a New Construction plumber & enjoy watching your videos, I feel like im watching jeopardy & I know all the answers
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#2 is called kickback and when you push it on you also need to turn it about .25 and #3 plumbers putty works just fine and has for many many years. When you use putty you can use your sink right away, with silicone you have to wait 24hr before you even test it to see if it sealed right.
Another channel has the mnemonic phrase "spin it to win it" you don't want voids inline with the pipe.
Just a tip, if possible let the silicone set up for 5-10 minutes on strainer or pop up before assembling, seems to work better.
Yes, you can do that to ;)
Don't use silicone... that's handyman shit
That's it, best DIY channel anywhere! I subscribed after the 2nd video. Great job!!
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I'm a home owner now and have learned a good bit from these videos. Well explained 👏 keep up the good work
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#7 it's good practice to turn off the water heater when turning off water pressure in general, since thermal expansion can cause a drip on open pipes or the heater can run dry. Great vid as usual!
Great point, thanks man!
@@Got2Learn no, thank you!!!
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Very good, I was unaware of any of these situations.
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Didn't know about the brass sleeve for plastic pipe. YOU CAN ALWAYS LEARN NEW THINGS. Thanks 💯
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Love your series. Came across your channel by chance. Thanks.
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Silicon used like you did is a permanent bound. If you need to replace the sink drain assembly in future you will not be able to cut the silicon join, so you will have to replace the whole sink, thats why plumber putty is the require bound in that particular case.
Two more tips:
1. Always use a ball closure when you can, like for the water supply connections under a sink, instead of the cheaper washer-tight versions. They cost a little more, but they are much more reliable.
2. Always install some sort of heavier plastic on the floor of the sink cabinet. It protects the wood from leaking solvents you keep under your sink, and prevents rotting when the pipes or the disposal leaks, which it always always always will. A few sf of VisQueen is all you need.
Fully agree ball valve > seat valve
Disagree on plastic on cabinet floor. While it will help with cleanup of spilled cleaners it will also trap moisture from the inevitable leak mentioned. This will expedite the rotting of the cabinet floor.
@@NoCoolNamesRemain 2. If you use particleboard, might as well use the plastic and be vigilant because that stuff is ruined if you just look at it with tears in your eyes.
In Oregon in most municipalities ABS to PVC transitions are not allowed, you have to put an 18" PVC stub and use a shielded coupling at generally 4" up the ends of each pipe.
In 1999 I ran a 6 inch white PVC pipe from the wellhead to a brand new house that was approximately 200 yards away we could not get it deeper than 24 inches everybody told me the pipes would freeze I very carefully then when I was pulling through the water supply pipe pulled in the heat tape with it just in case. The building inspector gave me a pass instead it’ll probably freeze you’ll be picking it up soon GuessWhat did never ever froze and I’ve only had to put the heat tape on twice in 20 years there’s always a really common sense solution when you come into problems and that’s why I love this video and all the other videos you make common sense keep up the great work
Thank you so much my man, yeah plumbing is a lot about common sense, gotta love it, have a great day bud!
teflon tape is ALSO helpful when removing the nut/bolt 10 years later so feel free to put it on anything that you may have to take apart later.
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Grease
Teflon tape should not be used on compression fittings, it can interfere with proper tightening, particulaly with small fine thread fittings. That can actually cause leaks! But applying a bit of silicone grease can help, and make it easy to remove years later.
I tell customers to use teflon tape on threaded fittings that have no seal, but not use teflon tape on threaded fittings where there is a seal. Flare fittings use a metal to metal seal and don't need teflon tape.
If I can add something. When your soldering copper, make sure the coppers pieces are clean. The rule I follow is simple : make them look like jewelry. You can buy attachments for your drill that will clean the inside/outside of the pipe and fittings. Your going to thank yourself for buying them, a lot less stress on your arms.
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Pvc pipes should not be relying solely on the pvc cement in order to stay sealed. It dries in like 15 minutes to
? "Jewelry" has a polished surface. A matte surface, such as produced with the wire prep tool or emery cloth, is better.
@@WeTubule it’s a figure of speech Karen. Would you like to speak to my manager? Ffs stfu.
thank you for talking about the building codes with the various projects (this an other videos) and any "stupid" little 50 cent tricks ( the metal plate on the stud where the pipe is). The little trick in this video isn't something I knew about.
I love your videos, always quick and to the point.
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I’ve never used the silicone method
( I’m an electrician by trade but I’m a dirty cross breeder sometimes) 🤷♂️
Anyway, after reading the comments I’m still gonna try it.
Nothing worse than a tradesman that gives you the “ that’s the way we’ve always done it” line.
I don’t wire with knob and tube
Plumbers don’t have lead melting pots for the cast iron anymore ( it was lead, yes?)
We all need to give things a chance
I need to accept those stupid wago connections
You guys need to accept the stupid pex
The world won’t keep using copper pipe
The world won’t keep using wire nuts.
Grow.. develop... TRY NEW STUFF!
Learn, ya grumpy ol’ fellas!
Well said, I and every otger plumber I know NEVER use plumbers putty in over 15 years, it'll work, I just never used it.
Putty you can run water right away. Putty is always the best option.
I hate the push wire connectors but my boss loves them, they are faster and easier. I normally only use them inside of recessed lighting, where they will never be disturbed.
Inside a switch or receptacle box I still use wire nuts, I've had too many push connectors come apart when setting a GFCI receptacle into a box.
Of course now we have dual function AFCI/GFCI breakers that are required for all installations, one day no one will remember the poor old GFCI outlet, one day before that, I'll probably put my last one in an old house and won't even know it. Probably will have to fight it like hell to get it in the box too. 🤣
Thank you for the video. Very clear. No excess verbage. And you covered points good for the novice and the experienced person. Well don.
Glad you enjoyed it!!!
Excellent video my man. Mondo useful. Thank you
Always slightly rotate fittings when gluing together.
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You Sir are a tool in everyone's tool box God bless and thank you I really appreciate you and your videos....
So nice of you!!!
Teflon tape is awesome for sealing, including tremendous pressure, of just about any fluid you could want to hold. From air to gasoline, leak-path-incoprorating pipe threads all the way, PTFE tape keeps it in on the first try, forever. Also doesn't require chemical cleanliness/dryness.
#8 - Soldering valves tip, I'm glad you brought this up, I had never heard of itt before, Thank you very much!
You bet!
ive been done with all my plumbing 2 years ago but I continue to watch for some reason 😂😂
Always room to improve 🙏🙏🙏
Your home plumbing is never complete... infact your house is never finished building... there are just long pauses between construction and maintenance.
So keep viewing, this information will come in handy some day.
Great tips video again, going to rag on you a little! There called "Water heaters", that's what the unit does, technically it's not a hot water tank because it's not static, it keeps/ maintains the water at a preset temperature, heating the water as necessary when it cool's to maintain it's desired temperature, it would quickly become a cold water tank if not for the "heating" elements. I hear plumbers call it a "hot water heater" and bite my lip, what would be the point of heating hot water? maybe a hot water maker? hot water maintainer?
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I agree with you, however, it's become the new "normal" way to refer to it. I've given up trying to correct people. It's like the word "supposedly" , I hear it pronounced "supposebly" ALL the time. I just sigh now :)
@@nix4644 so when the customer asked me to install a hot water heater and I asked them which water line should I use to run to the unit... I may be old school but education goes a long way, you can fix stupid or laugh at it 🤣
Is this Dave Nerick? People who said hot water heaters drove him insane.
It's a water heater dummy
Always use teflon tape but I didn't know about the screw types.
Also didn't know about valves having to be in a certain position nor that there were restrictions on different types of plastic pipes to be used/glues.
Thanks for the advise.
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👍 Did not know about transitional adhesive/glue/cement. Thanx👍
Sorry, I learned the hard way why plumbers putty is way worth it over silicone. Main reason, silicone is strong in between surfaces and ends up damaging sink if you ever need to replace a fixture. Plumbers putty is the way to go, since it takes decades to dry out and is that much easier to replace. Unlike silicone, when it dries out and we need to replace it, it's a pain in the @#$!
Not to mention silicone is awful to cleanup and a nightmare to prepare the surface if you ever pull them apart. Plumbers putty is far better.
i agree i never used silicone for any of my baskets always putty
You can break silicone with a piece of thin wire. It does work better than plumbers putty but there is definitely a price to be paid if you want to redo the strainer basket.
I used a wire brush on a drill to clean up the putty crud on a stainless sink where the drain was rotted out and broken. Plumbers putty does a good job filling in the cracks and can be trimmed where it squeezes out.
Plumbers putty doesn't exists in my country
Drilling into an unprotected and unmarked pipe might be one of the worst feelings lmao
thank you for the demonstration, it is very clear very helpful
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I impulse bought a plumbers torch with hose from the end cap by the register. "Blue bottles" make enough heat to work with lead, not so much with amalgam. If there is a secret to soldering valves it is to get it hot quick, flow solder and get away. Longer it takes to heat it the farther the heat travels.
Neat thing about the plumbers torch is it makes so much heat I've used it instead of the Ox for some things. Cheaper
Silicone on basket strainer is the best way to go. Especially on shower drains. Standing on the drain will squeeze the old garbage putty out. It's simply outdated.
They should make the plates a heavier gage.
Self taping screw and a impact. Thin plate doesn't even slow it down as it goes right through.
Cabinet guys are the worst.
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If you are using self tapping screws that long on a sheetrock wall then you deserve to pop a hole in your pipe lol. But seriously self tapping wood screws won't go through metal so no need to waste money on thicker gauge metal.
Correct, those plates are a waste of time
Clear and well explained. Thank you!
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Simple yet right to the point! Thanks
You're welcome!!!
I'm not a fan of the Silicone idea. I always use putty and never had a problem. Cool videos 👍
Thanks for watching!!
I disagree with silicone instead of puddy. Yeah they both work but most faucets will go bad before the silicone and when you have to replace the basket strainer it becomes a bitch to get off. No disrespect intended one thing I learn after 30 yrs of plumbing is no plumber does the same way.
i agree...sink and tub shoes do not move after installed....i like to see putty squeeze out as tightened down...never had a leak in my years of doing it that way..
I've used black atv gasket maker... That will be a bitch and a half to get off🤣... Good thing going down it's more likely for the sink to be replaced before the basket strainer on the sink goes.
51 years here. NO glue, ever. You might be the "next guy".
Great video! Awesome tips. I’m surprised so many people don’t use the metal plates to protect plumbing lines.
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With electrical work they are only required if the wire is within 1.25" of the face of the finished wall or face of the stud I forget which. I would guess if the pipe was 2" back, nobody is going to hit it with a 1.25" screw but cheap insurance and certainly no harm in doing it other than $5 bill from your wallet
High end faucet drain assemblies come with silicone gaskets now, so probably gunna still use silicone cause it works and that's the future of cheaper versions. I'm ahead of the game like many that have commented. Silicone has been a "clear" winner over putty in my case. 5, 6 attempts with putty, still leaking....dry the surface, silicone correctly....no leak. I also add that I use thread sealant on threads, not as a sealant but as a lubricant. As it is intended.
That’s weird, the day I’m watching this is the day I had to replace a failed pvc-abs transition for the exact reason you mentioned.
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When joining ABS drain pipes how soon after gluing can water be drained in the pipes to check for water leaks (when air pressure test not feasible)
About 10 minutes after.
Wait a hour if possible
Check the manufacturers installation instructions, it will say.
All useful tips. Thanks for sharing!
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Great video as always
Protection plates are 7 cents at my local surplus store. There's even less of an excuse for not using them...
There ya goo!
Stud guards are mandatory
“Electricity department” 😆
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Where I'm from, our sinks usually have already fitted with the drain thingy (probably sealed already with Silicone sealer), although good info on this about Plumber's putty, never heard about it though.
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6:04 maybe not hide the clean out inside the wall :).
Silicone under basket strainer work nice BUT you will spend shit amount of time when you gonna take this apart 10 years later. Especially on the old cust iron sink.
That was going to be my reply but you beat me to it. You are never going to get those apart.
I've been using putty on the few jobs I've done without any leaks. I figure if it becomes a problem many many years later I can always just redo the install. I guess use whatever you're comfortable with.
I guess the question is, why are you taking it apart? I know things happen and sometimes a repair needs to be made without doing a full overhaul. This just seems like something you would want to treat like a permanent fix. I'll do silicone everytime. I don't even own plumbers puddy.
@@markbrowning4334 Switching garbage disposals, Some Sink Strainers are thin walled and break, it would be a bad day if you damaged the sink trying to get the old strainer out.
@@manorin I told myself, this weekend, that I would stop chiming in on comment sections. I haven't been doing it long anyway, but it just doesn't feel right, even when the conversations stay civil, like ours.
I couldn't resist one more time for our conversation though.
You mentioned thin wall. Whether you're talking about the strainer or the sink basin itself, these items are usually stainless steel. They shouldn't rust out, or at least not anytime soon....but we know they can and do. There are two things that will cause theses materials to rust, time and water. If you take away the water, the amount of time needed is almost infinite. If you ad water, it speeds it up considerably. Still, its going to take a while. If you are dealing with a level of delapidation that concerns you for the well being of the sink, then either its naturally time for a renovation anyway, or there was sub par installation in the first place.(possibly due to the use of plumbers puddy)
I use silicone. I haven't had a leak with use of it. In fact, I would wager that everything else in the kitchen will naturally ware out before the disposal collar and sink.
I goop up the bottom side of the disposal flange and set it in place. Let the silicone ooze out. Then I assemble the snap ring and under carriage of the disposal collar and tighten the three bolts almost tight. I then orient the stamped label on the flange (insinkerator) so that it is pleasing to the client. I then tighten the collar off so that it is set. At this point, I take shop towels and denatured alcohol and clean the excess silicone off off the flange and basin surface. Now there is a clean installation and it won't stain the sink and it definetly won't leak. Thus no unwanted water breach, thus no rust. The next time anyone has to touch a disposal collar installed this way is when they are going to change the whole kitchen out.
Very helpful information. I bought some faucets and I was surprised to see that I was supposed to use silicone. I can no justify it.
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another WINNER thanks ---- clear and precise information excellent!
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Step one I've been doing this 25 years don't ever use silicone on a basket strainer plumbers putty is the only way to go
I've got putty on sinks that are 50 years old, no issues. The other thing is also that I rarely (if ever) see any mold in it after removing. But I've seen PLENTY of silicon with mold.
The only strainer type that needs silicon is acrylic tubs- several mfg's spec silicon instead of putty.
Never use a brass ferrel on plastic tubing as movement can cause the sharp brass to cut into the tubing.
Also, I always use plastic ferrels on everything; even on copper. They Will indent the copper so it doesn't pull out and are easier to seal.
Great info. I respectfully disagree with number four - I live in a warm tropical environment and put Teflon tape and a bit of Plumber’s jelly on all garden hose and garden sprayer threads to keep them from getting stuck on the threads. Helps tremendously.
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1 thin layer of tape could prevent corrosion. More will prevent full threading & proper seal.
I framed and dry walled my parent's kitchen recently and I used the protection plates. I'm proud of myself.
Not chanforing drain pipe, I don't care fore because my crap so dry it's like sandpaper going down hill which will debur by it's self.
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Well. The ABS fitting need to rotate max 1/4 turn after glue on.....
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As usual another great informative video!
Glad it was helpful!
I wanted to see this but i had to do online school. Its stupid cause this is more important.
At least i go 5 days a week in person next week.
People don’t put enough purple primer on the PVC connections.
people think they dont need primer and wonder why their PVC joints are leaking
Love your channel by the way
It was helpful. Some new concepts & helpful reminders.
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I am browsing the comments for arguments against the silicone/plumber's putty tip
If you use silicone you can never replace the fittings when they start to look old
Of course you can lol
@@Got2Learn you know nothing
@@cglees I didn't say "use super glue" I said silicone lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Got2Learn to be fair super glue would not seal water lol
Whenever i see transition cement it is green. I never knew they made it white.
Yeah it all depends which direction the wind is blowing that day LOLL
I was going to guess you were from Québec, but the Ontario site at end negated that theory. Merci pour vos vidéos, ils sont bien pratique et clair
Yup ;)
Nail plates
Also we use Teflon tape on threaded fittings followed by pipe dough
never used silicone on a basket strainer!!!
I hate the old skool guys be doing that
I always use silicone on basket strainers
Agreed
You just barely missed a huge one. You gotta fill your electric water heater before you turn it on.
Yes that too, thanks!
@@Got2Learn I Knew you where a few steps ahead. Love the content you put out!!
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Yes,u will melt the elements🔥
Not just fill, make sure to bleed the air out. Otherwise it will just fill to the level of equalizing the pressure in the tank - probably not up to the top element..
I've learned so much from watching your channel. Thanks!
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I been looking for any video over the internet about PVC slip coupling repair, every time I tried to use it, I messed up pretty bad, You should upload a video about this topic.
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