Hey folks! I wanted to make one major correction. This company is actually Taiwanese, not Chinese. That was totally my mistake. From now on, these guys are going to go down as my favorite time when he’s pepper ball manufactures. I don’t think I’ve actually had a bad product from them :-)
I Really like how this Genre of Markers continues to Evolve and Change to offer different Options for the LL Community. Right now my head is Spinning with Good Ideas. Thanks for Sharing the Latest Designs.
you are right to make a difference. I lived and worked 4,5 years in taiwan, and made business with china and taiwan and the differences are huged between the 2 countries. Taiwan is at a level of 10 for example and china is at 2 !!!!
Exactly, I live in Philippines. The difference in wuality is huge, chinese made products are JUNK!! you should see the motorcycles, rusty screws cheap metal terrible wireing, don't ever buy one. Chinese electric cars are flooding the market, terrible cheap quality parts are used just plain JUNK. BEWARE OF ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA! products use cheapest possie materials and break in notime.
The fins on the torpedoes are angled. What happens is the muzzle blast will spin the projectile counterclockwise out of the barrel, and it is very stabile for a few feet, but as it travels downrange (about 10 feet), the airflow tries to make it spin clockwise and during that transition, it starts to lose stability. (I filmed them with a HS camera) Despite that I had pretty good accuracy at 25 feet. My shots also were quite high and I had to hold about 6 o'clock to get the POI on target.
I agree, those of us with 3D printers can probably cook up some interesting slugs, either Foster style or fin-stablized. I have an HDR68 and made some nasty slugs that are hollow and take a .32 Browning 80 grain slug in the front.
@@AlternateArmsSD sorry so late my awesome brother, well on left hip replace , i walk about 15 ft to use restroom 5 mins after i woke up in recovery ,did over 2 weeks of in house rehab with RG AIRGUN NINJA results complete recovery in 3 months and got to 100% pain free !!! NOT SO GOOD ON RIGHT HIP TOTAL REPLACE >>>SAD TRUTH < I WAS ALMOST COMPLETELY PARALYZED. 95% FOR *8 WHOLE DAYS being abled to slightly barely wiggle my toes only it took me 8 full days to take my first 4 inch only step , on day 12 i was moving leg 8 to about 12 inches sometimes .TAUGHT 's OF BEING IN A WHEELCHAIR permanently began to fastly poison my deductive reasoning mind LOL !!! the second one hurts way way way worstmore still on today , DAY 19 . first one took 30 to 50ish miligrams of oxi's to manage pain , while about double needed at , at least 90 mg's pf oxi's a day , 15 mg every 4 hours , just to sort of take the edge off the pain and still reach 8 on the pain scale . in my martial arts studies , i had quite a few sessions on bone breaking and had no idea on the pain that can be generated on attacking the hio/hips until i got first hand on what it must feel like LOL !!!OMG !!!! LOL !!!!........... so long long long story short , sometimes these surgeries really hurt . i have a few weeks of rehab to do and have a super positive mind now for a full and complete recovery !!! i am getting better and better every day my BROTHER , you know i had it bad to not watch my youtube vids all this time and barely commented at all , you know one thing about me , i love to put my "3" cents in by commenting LMAO !!!!!! enjoy the show and i cant wait to dissect one of these , the extra wide or long mag and torpedo idea i mentioned before on comments to one of you close to a year ago , i even petitioned umarex on these two concepts but never got any response back , so just maybe , mercury rise will be interested on my other cool ideas i have for performance parts , upgrades , ammo ideas , etc. that will blow peoples minds i have in my billion dollar notebook lol !!! . my quest leads me now to getting miniature lathes , crc machines and 3d printers etc. , and hope one day to bring to market my ideas before "SHTF" happens , which is just around the corner i feel ..... thank you kind for your concern my brother , you rock man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Howdy, Jon. Great video. I was able to get my hands on one of these a friend bought. Love the accuracy of the torpedo rounds and the gas release. The grip is a bit different from the Umarex TR50 and for my hands I prefer the Umarex. Tried to shoot two round projectiles from a single chamber with little success. Found the chambers would not hold two projectiles securely and one would roll out the barrel when lowering the weapon. If your successful at upgrading/modifying the power then I would consider a purchase.
Sadly enough, the same thing happens with the HDR50 (11J) when its stock (plastic) drum is loaded with certain projectiles, such as the official Razorgun "devastators". So, it's not just a "Torpedo"-specific issue, but a more general one (which, I think, comes down to the quality of the plastic drums)... Maybe upgrading the revolver with an aftermarket drum made of aluminum would solve that issue, but I haven't *yet* tried it myself, so I can't really tell if that works or not..
I've been doing my due diligence on my non-lethal defense pistol. If this pistol can be modified then this is the one I'll purchase. So how long for the mod review? I'm now on a time restraint for the reason I'm purchasing the pistol. I do want the pistol to be more powerful or shoot the projectiles with more velocity. Thanks, love your enthusiasm and attention to detail.
True, fortunately they will also fire the standard rounds. In after filming testing though the flight pattern is actually very cool! Those fins seem to stabilize the rounds pretty darn well!
Hello brother, Another great video on a very cool launcher. I have the MUB50. One heck of a launcher. It sits in a hidden locked drawer i in my computer desk at home. A bit too big and magazine oddness for edc. But this new launcher looks good to add to my growing collection. Thanks for the recommendation on Mecury Rise pepperball ammo. I need to get some for my PPQ. Thanks for all that you do.
Jon , thats an amazing weapon ,LOVE IT < i have said on youtubes channel before that projectiles in the shape of torpedoes would be awesome . i have also stated if the tr.50 had a larger drum magazine we could use and fire more aero-dynamic slugs and such . its just like .177 pellets , the short normal ones wobble off course when shot at or more the speed of sound , the longer heavier are way better . in comparison to the hdr.68 , the drum of the tr.50 is way too small , just look at what we are forced to shoot in slugs these thing are short and stubby ! . i still prefer shooting balls in it because of this . just think how cool it will be when they come out with a bigger better hdr.68 wow !!! one that can shoot small darts and stuff !!! in the last year and a half companies like cododo have picked up on my ideas i wrote about on youtube channels , never fear , i got a note book of things to come out with one day with the right people and companies , hey , i would like to make a little,,,,,,,"lot" of money myself , they are my ideas for crying out loud lol .!!! great show as always my brother !!! you just keep getting better and better !!!
Yes indeed! I spoke to my rep over at Mercury rising. They said they had just gotten a massive shipment in. I suspect we’re going to see them more available. However, it looks like this replaced the MUB43, so we may not see any more of that subcompact.
This looks really nice. I am torn between the Revolver and the MUB. My use is different. I need something to scare off loose and wild dogs when I am riding my bike on some back dirt roads. I like the revolver because of the torpedoes. But I like the MUB because of the weight, and it is says it shoots farther. Which one is louder? That would help too.
Greetings! They are very close to the same DB level when firing. One advantage over the MUB is the fact that the torpedos carry considerably more powder than the standard 50 cal balls.
Weird question but would it be possible to buy a hrd68 full power modded from you? I cant seem to do the modifications myself. Like the 30 joules kit with the upgraded valve. And if so what sorta cost would it be ontop of the buying price for parts. I wanna own one thats modded but my hands shake too much when trying to work the screws n springs
Out of any modders ive seen handle the hdr68 i gotta say i enjoyed your video most. I hooe you see this but even if not im still greatful for all the great content you out out. Thank you
The TR50 looks wicked and im definitely interested in seeing if you can mod it. I watched Mercury Rise's video for it and they mentioned that you if can push the puncture cap up and down, there is no pressure yet, but if you can't, its still pressurized. I'm curious how the fps/joulees are with heavier balls.
@@AlternateArmsSD One other thing I'm curious about and you might be able to help is this... How does this launcher compare to the Umarex TR50 and the LTL Bravo?
Some other channels have already done side by side tests. Torpedo had more feet per second power than umerax in on test less in 3 other tests. Do 't like it does does 't have y red pin on back toet you know it is loaded and is full of gas, but it is easier to use and release gas.
Dis guy on big truck big RV channel did a review on torpedo powered rounds, devastater rounds, hard rubber and chrony test in lower 3s with heaviest balls, it had a lot of bad comments on dis gun about would they use it for self defense and most say it's a toy, bb gun, etc, changed my mind on it now!
That’s the wonderful thing about the internet. You can find any position on any product you’d like to find. From my findings, these are quite effective. You do not count on kinetic rounds for self defense. You use a high quality pepperball in addition to a high quality kinetic round. Also, weight is not everything. There are a lot of different rounds that this launcher will fire that no other launcher can due to the chamber size.
@@AlternateArmsSD right I think it's all assuming some people do just like they call 22 fire arms toys, but most probably never got a pepper ball to face, shot by 22cal or hit by 2.7 or up aluminum balls outta high joules I got nephews that own guns and they do is shit on air guns no matter what, it's all ego flex, untill they actually experience the effects especially sober without crazy drugs.
@@JayJone5169 Absolutely! I watched several of those videos to her personal take one pepperball and say oh yeah, I could keep coming. The only thought flowing in the back of my mind is what about the subsequent seven :-) If you have to use these in self defense… use them properly.
Greetings! 20MM optics will fit. I dont know the exact size but Ill check for you. We had a fire at the flea market so the building is without power at the moment. Stay tuned!
It is exactly the length of 2 .50 caliber rounds stacked on top of each other. I mean, exactly. That’s why I was able to actually fire two rounds in the next video.
Another great and informative video. I'd like to order a digital scale like you use to weigh projectiles. Can you provide me with a link to purchase one?
interesting but what do the sabot Do are they moor accurate the other ones are pretty good at accuracy so why? are they moor expensive I bet they are. are they reusable ? and how would you even carry it I don't see any holsters available just walking around with it in your hand doesn't seem like a good idea to me the US cops always seem a bit jumpy to me
Hehe Well, the rounds are not reusable. They explode on impact :) Strangely enough, the rounds cost about the same as the regular pepperballs. I’m assuming that’s because they do all of their own manufacturing. As far as holsters, they seem to fit everything the regular tr50 fits :)
@@Seabass1206 not quite, it’s pretty close, but that extended drum makes it not quite fit. However, a standard open leather holster like I use for the byrna, or the Glock seem to fit it fine.
If you got a 3D printer, you could make your own sabot. Maybe try varying sizes of lead bullets, everything from .36 and .44 round ball to FMJ .32 and 9mm slugs. Heck, you may even make a fin-stablized slug that take a .22 Ramset blank in the front, primer end forward 😈
The accuracy seems to be improved although you can’t adjust the sights. The fins seem to stabilize the round quite a bit! There is a future in this design for sure.
Two things I gotta know. Will this see a uk 🇬🇧 release and can you fit 2 of the rubber ball rounds in each chamber? Because a double shot would be a nice party trick. Thanks Jon.
Ciao grande fratello americano 😊😊.... Io ho 2 revolver HDR 50.... Uno s 7.5 joule ed 1 a 11 joule e in piu da 10 giorni ho anche il revolver inglese artemis cp 300 defender a 12.7 joule .... La mia opinione è che l' HDR 50 11 joule è la migliore in tutti i punti di vista sia come potenza di impatto , che come comodità di pistola ... L artemis comunque è una vuona arma potente, ma l' HDR 50 11 joule e davvero una potenza.... Anche la 7.5 jouke è abbastanza potente e devastante cm la sua sorella maggiore 😊😊... Ciao dall Italia fratello americano .... P.s. vorrei tanto venire in America un giorno😢😢
Saluti! Dovresti venire a trovarci! È divertente, verremo a Parigi tra pochi mesi. Tu vuoi visitare qui, noi vogliamo visitare laggiù :) Il TR50 è sicuramente un OTTIMO lanciatore. Grazie per aver guardato Brother!
![NEW TORPEDO REVOLVER [15 Joules]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kxfaHlTPiMg/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey folks! I wanted to make one major correction. This company is actually Taiwanese, not Chinese. That was totally my mistake. From now on, these guys are going to go down as my favorite time when he’s pepper ball manufactures. I don’t think I’ve actually had a bad product from them :-)
How can I purchase an upgraded mag for t4e tpm1
@@user-tl1bg7uf6q shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com. I’m not sure if I still have any of them but I will take a look for you.
I messaged u, let me know if u received the message
@@user-tl1bg7uf6q hey brother, I’m out of town until Thursday with family. I’ll hit you as soon as I get back.
There not weapons it's merchandise 🤫🤫🤫🤫
I Really like how this Genre of Markers continues to Evolve and Change to offer different Options for the LL Community.
Right now my head is Spinning with Good Ideas.
Thanks for Sharing the Latest
Designs.
This company is amazing too! Just like PavaShot, they listen to their customers! I am excited to see what comes next!
Looks like something out of a James Bond movie like You Only Live Twice. I’m calling that Launcher Little Nelly
Yeah it does! I kinda dig the little torpedos though :)
you are right to make a difference. I lived and worked 4,5 years in taiwan, and made business with china and taiwan and the differences are huged between the 2 countries. Taiwan is at a level of 10 for example and china is at 2 !!!!
Yeah, I love these guys for sure!
Exactly, I live in Philippines. The difference in wuality is huge, chinese made products are JUNK!! you should see the motorcycles, rusty screws cheap metal terrible wireing, don't ever buy one. Chinese electric cars are flooding the market, terrible cheap quality parts are used just plain JUNK. BEWARE OF ANYTHING MADE IN CHINA! products use cheapest possie materials and break in notime.
The fins on the torpedoes are angled. What happens is the muzzle blast will spin the projectile counterclockwise out of the barrel, and it is very stabile for a few feet, but as it travels downrange (about 10 feet), the airflow tries to make it spin clockwise and during that transition, it starts to lose stability. (I filmed them with a HS camera) Despite that I had pretty good accuracy at 25 feet. My shots also were quite high and I had to hold about 6 o'clock to get the POI on target.
Yep, that’s exactly what I saw too! It’s a great little launcher with tons of potential!
Okey dokey
Have you considered a hobby? Asking for a friend. 😊
@@steverockwell5074 ROFL!! that’s what my wife tells me all the time :-) I don’t have nearly enough irons in the fire.
@@AlternateArmsSD ...yo...my comment as for the fledermas or whatever dude. He seems to have a lot of free time on his his hands.
Oh boy I'm excited about this...can't wait to see what type of slugs will be made for this let's go. Thanks for another great review dude 👊💯
Oh yeah, this thing has serious potential.
I agree, those of us with 3D printers can probably cook up some interesting slugs, either Foster style or fin-stablized. I have an HDR68 and made some nasty slugs that are hollow and take a .32 Browning 80 grain slug in the front.
Very cool, like you pointed out - less parts to break. Always a plus
I agree! Im digging into this as we speak ;) The next video will be interesting :)
Prayers needed Jon , 7am hip surgery today . Total hip . Thank you all
You’ve got this brother!! Take it one day at a time man. Keep us informed!
@@rick31869 How did it go Brother?
Sorry so late Jon I was bad off this time , but made it !!!
@@rick31869 Good deal man! Get well quick!
@@AlternateArmsSD sorry so late my awesome brother, well on left hip replace , i walk about 15 ft to use restroom 5 mins after i woke up in recovery ,did over 2 weeks of in house rehab with RG AIRGUN NINJA results complete recovery in 3 months and got to 100% pain free !!!
NOT SO GOOD ON RIGHT HIP TOTAL REPLACE >>>SAD TRUTH < I WAS ALMOST COMPLETELY PARALYZED. 95% FOR *8 WHOLE DAYS being abled to slightly barely wiggle my toes only it took me 8 full days to take my first 4 inch only step , on day 12 i was moving leg 8 to about 12 inches sometimes .TAUGHT 's OF BEING IN A WHEELCHAIR permanently began to fastly poison my deductive reasoning mind LOL !!!
the second one hurts way way way worstmore still on today , DAY 19 .
first one took 30 to 50ish miligrams of oxi's to manage pain , while about double needed at , at least 90 mg's pf oxi's a day , 15 mg every 4 hours , just to sort of take the edge off the pain and still reach 8 on the pain scale .
in my martial arts studies , i had quite a few sessions on bone breaking and had no idea on the pain that can be generated on attacking the hio/hips until i got first hand on what it must feel like LOL !!!OMG !!!! LOL !!!!...........
so long long long story short , sometimes these surgeries really hurt . i have a few weeks of rehab to do and have a super positive mind now for a full and complete recovery !!!
i am getting better and better every day my BROTHER , you know i had it bad to not watch my youtube vids all this time and barely commented at all , you know one thing about me , i love to put my "3" cents in by commenting LMAO !!!!!!
enjoy the show and i cant wait to dissect one of these , the extra wide or long mag and torpedo idea i mentioned before on comments to one of you close to a year ago , i even petitioned umarex on these two concepts but never got any response back , so just maybe , mercury rise will be interested on my other cool ideas i have for performance parts , upgrades , ammo ideas , etc. that will blow peoples minds i have in my billion dollar notebook lol !!! .
my quest leads me now to getting miniature lathes , crc machines and 3d printers etc. , and hope one day to bring to market my ideas before "SHTF" happens , which is just around the corner i feel .....
thank you kind for your concern my brother , you rock man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Howdy, Jon. Great video. I was able to get my hands on one of these a friend bought. Love the accuracy of the torpedo rounds and the gas release. The grip is a bit different from the Umarex TR50 and for my hands I prefer the Umarex. Tried to shoot two round projectiles from a single chamber with little success. Found the chambers would not hold two projectiles securely and one would roll out the barrel when lowering the weapon. If your successful at upgrading/modifying the power then I would consider a purchase.
Ill keep ya posted! :) Im trying a few things this afternoon
Sadly enough, the same thing happens with the HDR50 (11J) when its stock (plastic) drum is loaded with certain projectiles, such as the official Razorgun "devastators". So, it's not just a "Torpedo"-specific issue, but a more general one (which, I think, comes down to the quality of the plastic drums)...
Maybe upgrading the revolver with an aftermarket drum made of aluminum would solve that issue, but I haven't *yet* tried it myself, so I can't really tell if that works or not..
@@syn8etikos An aluminum drum would be a great modification!
2:11 ....too damn smooth lol
Heheh Thanks Brother!
i would like to try firing 2 pepper balls at once if they can fit in that bigger chamber, thanks for your posts John, you are legend!
Oh man!! Why didn’t I think of that!!!!! I’m going to try that today :)
@@AlternateArmsSD if it works, we have a TR100 :)
Also try a kinetics with a pepperball
Great video as always brother. It looks super cool😎. Bet it will hit hard if you put a long barrel on it. Cheers bro 😃
Oh, its coming! :)
I've been doing my due diligence on my non-lethal defense pistol. If this pistol can be modified then this is the one I'll purchase. So how long for the mod review? I'm now on a time restraint for the reason I'm purchasing the pistol. I do want the pistol to be more powerful or shoot the projectiles with more velocity. Thanks, love your enthusiasm and attention to detail.
Thanks brother, I’m actually pulling wanna park today to see what’s inside of it. I’ll keep you posted :-)
Those torpedo style rounds in a pistol is a interesting concept! Aftermarket projectiles could be hard to come by for quite a while.
True, fortunately they will also fire the standard rounds. In after filming testing though the flight pattern is actually very cool! Those fins seem to stabilize the rounds pretty darn well!
Hello brother,
Another great video on a very cool launcher. I have the MUB50. One heck of a launcher. It sits in a hidden locked drawer i in my computer desk at home. A bit too big and magazine oddness for edc. But this new launcher looks good to add to my growing collection. Thanks for the recommendation on Mecury Rise pepperball ammo. I need to get some for my PPQ. Thanks for all that you do.
Its pretty darn cool! Im digging into this weekend. Ill let know what I find!
Nice video, thanks. Will the valve fit the Umarex TR50? Is there possibly a different valve for the Umarex TR50?
Thanks Brother! Im going to dig into it this weekend :) Details to follow!
Is there any difference between the Mercury Rising Torpedo TR50 self defense gun and their paint ball version
Power primarily. Also, they tend to mark all of their self defense launcher “paintball” for export reasons.
Thanks
One nice adjustment would be to ship the ammo is 12 packs instead of ten. The reason is obvious.
Hehe isn’t that the old “10 hotdogs and 8 buns” quandary :)
Im in! Why not add this to my collection. Just why not ! 😂
Oh, it will be! :)
Jon , thats an amazing weapon ,LOVE IT < i have said on youtubes channel before that projectiles in the shape of torpedoes would be awesome . i have also stated if the tr.50 had a larger drum magazine we could use and fire more aero-dynamic slugs and such . its just like .177 pellets , the short normal ones wobble off course when shot at or more the speed of sound , the longer heavier are way better . in comparison to the hdr.68 , the drum of the tr.50 is way too small , just look at what we are forced to shoot in slugs these thing are short and stubby ! .
i still prefer shooting balls in it because of this .
just think how cool it will be when they come out with a bigger better hdr.68 wow !!! one that can shoot small darts and stuff !!! in the last year and a half companies like cododo have picked up on my ideas i wrote about on youtube channels , never fear , i got a note book of things to come out with one day with the right people and companies , hey , i would like to make a little,,,,,,,"lot" of money myself , they are my ideas for crying out loud lol .!!!
great show as always my brother !!! you just keep getting better and better !!!
Thanks man!! Yeah, this torpedo shape REALLY seems to stabilize the rounds. I think there is a future here :)
one of things i hate about my pellet pistols. .177 is so light
@@leagueleadersI like the 10 plus grains the best !!!
Great video. Is this a recommended buy in your opinion?
As it stands now, unless I find something catastrophic, HECK YEAH! :) Im digging into one this weekend to see what makes it tick. Stay tuned!
I Called it. The MR line of launchers is more versatile IMHO but they can be hard to find, which doesn't help.
Yes indeed! I spoke to my rep over at Mercury rising. They said they had just gotten a massive shipment in. I suspect we’re going to see them more available. However, it looks like this replaced the MUB43, so we may not see any more of that subcompact.
Great video. How is the Torpedo Revolver trigger weight and feel ?
Im going to measure that on the next video. Imo, it was VERY close to the TR50 (Imagine that) :)
This looks really nice. I am torn between the Revolver and the MUB. My use is different. I need something to scare off loose and wild dogs when I am riding my bike on some back dirt roads. I like the revolver because of the torpedoes. But I like the MUB because of the weight, and it is says it shoots farther. Which one is louder? That would help too.
Greetings! They are very close to the same DB level when firing. One advantage over the MUB is the fact that the torpedos carry considerably more powder than the standard 50 cal balls.
@@AlternateArmsSD Thanks! But what about the distance?
@@barbcollins2905 I generally test between 25-50 feet. They hit VERY hard at that range.
Weird question but would it be possible to buy a hrd68 full power modded from you? I cant seem to do the modifications myself. Like the 30 joules kit with the upgraded valve. And if so what sorta cost would it be ontop of the buying price for parts. I wanna own one thats modded but my hands shake too much when trying to work the screws n springs
Out of any modders ive seen handle the hdr68 i gotta say i enjoyed your video most. I hooe you see this but even if not im still greatful for all the great content you out out. Thank you
@@frostofice8278 Thanks Brother! I see everyone :) I love my channel and I have big plans if I can avoid the RUclips demonetization stick.
The TR50 looks wicked and im definitely interested in seeing if you can mod it. I watched Mercury Rise's video for it and they mentioned that you if can push the puncture cap up and down, there is no pressure yet, but if you can't, its still pressurized. I'm curious how the fps/joulees are with heavier balls.
Yeah, setting up a video with some Zram ammo. I’m curious myself :)
@@AlternateArmsSD One other thing I'm curious about and you might be able to help is this... How does this launcher compare to the Umarex TR50 and the LTL Bravo?
@@Joreel Lemme see what I can do!
Some other channels have already done side by side tests. Torpedo had more feet per second power than umerax in on test less in 3 other tests. Do 't like it does does 't have y
red pin on back toet you know it is loaded and is full of gas, but it is easier to use and release gas.
Can it be altered with the power kick by exchanging the valve block? - just wondering.
There is a factory upgrade coming soon. These don't have a valve block like the unarex launchers which is why they hit so hard out of thr bix.
How do the torpedoes compare to the byrna 12g projectiles? Size wise..
They are about half the size.
Dis guy on big truck big RV channel did a review on torpedo powered rounds, devastater rounds, hard rubber and chrony test in lower 3s with heaviest balls, it had a lot of bad comments on dis gun about would they use it for self defense and most say it's a toy, bb gun, etc, changed my mind on it now!
That’s the wonderful thing about the internet. You can find any position on any product you’d like to find. From my findings, these are quite effective. You do not count on kinetic rounds for self defense. You use a high quality pepperball in addition to a high quality kinetic round. Also, weight is not everything. There are a lot of different rounds that this launcher will fire that no other launcher can due to the chamber size.
@@AlternateArmsSD right I think it's all assuming some people do just like they call 22 fire arms toys, but most probably never got a pepper ball to face, shot by 22cal or hit by 2.7 or up aluminum balls outta high joules I got nephews that own guns and they do is shit on air guns no matter what, it's all ego flex, untill they actually experience the effects especially sober without crazy drugs.
@@JayJone5169 Absolutely! I watched several of those videos to her personal take one pepperball and say oh yeah, I could keep coming. The only thought flowing in the back of my mind is what about the subsequent seven :-) If you have to use these in self defense… use them properly.
From my observation it's somewhere around 8.5 joules out of the box. That's not bad for $109-$119
On my tests, Im getting 11.68J. That makes it a great competitor for the TR50. Also, I see some modification potential here as well! :)
@@AlternateArmsSD oh wow 😲. The HDR50 comes with the 11 joule at around $170. I'm getting the mercury today. Thanks for the info
@@montizzlefoshizzle7131 Its pretty darn cool!
Nice video as always and the new tr50 has potential but1.9grams would go have a much higher fps with umarex 500 maybe 600
Im thinking my chrono might be a tad hosed. Im looking into a new one :)
What is the rail size? Does 20mm optics fit?
Greetings! 20MM optics will fit. I dont know the exact size but Ill check for you. We had a fire at the flea market so the building is without power at the moment. Stay tuned!
@@AlternateArmsSD thank you! 🫡
I like this one lol
You need one :)
I'm looking for someone to do some mods on some of my launchers.. do you do that?
Or can you recommend someone?
(I live in MD)
I do them in the shop daily :) Shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com
Can someone tell me the length of the torpedos? How long of a projectile can be pkaced in the cylinder?
It is exactly the length of 2 .50 caliber rounds stacked on top of each other. I mean, exactly. That’s why I was able to actually fire two rounds in the next video.
Another great and informative video. I'd like to order a digital scale like you use to weigh projectiles. Can you provide me with a link to purchase one?
I sure can! I’ll add it to the description tomorrow.
@@AlternateArmsSD Thanks.
interesting but what do the sabot Do are they moor accurate the other ones are pretty good at accuracy so why? are they moor expensive I bet they are. are they reusable ? and how would you even carry it I don't see any holsters available just walking around with it in your hand doesn't seem like a good idea to me the US cops always seem a bit jumpy to me
Hehe Well, the rounds are not reusable. They explode on impact :) Strangely enough, the rounds cost about the same as the regular pepperballs. I’m assuming that’s because they do all of their own manufacturing. As far as holsters, they seem to fit everything the regular tr50 fits :)
i bet it would fit in a holster for the hdr50 umarex
@@Seabass1206 not quite, it’s pretty close, but that extended drum makes it not quite fit. However, a standard open leather holster like I use for the byrna, or the Glock seem to fit it fine.
If you got a 3D printer, you could make your own sabot. Maybe try varying sizes of lead bullets, everything from .36 and .44 round ball to FMJ .32 and 9mm slugs. Heck, you may even make a fin-stablized slug that take a .22 Ramset blank in the front, primer end forward 😈
@@AmbuBadger I had a similar thought but I think it might even be easier than that :) I’m going to try a few things :)
So is the Byrna torpedo the exact same size as those torpedos?
No, the Byrna is about twice the size.
Hello how many joules ❓️🥰
Out of the box around 16 and the pepper rounds contain a LOT of powder :)
how many shots per cylinder
15-20 or so depending on ammo.
Thank you
@@georgecattell4110 My pleasure Brother.
does it have a longer range because of the shape of projectiles?
The accuracy seems to be improved although you can’t adjust the sights. The fins seem to stabilize the round quite a bit! There is a future in this design for sure.
@@AlternateArmsSD i hope someone makes solid projectiles for it too in all the different types and in that shape not just the byrna solid projectiles
@@gerardmcquade9102 I agree! I may see what I can do with a 3-D printer :-)
@@AlternateArmsSD that will be fun
@@AlternateArmsSD please do a great idea! Market your own ammo!
why would they name it the tr50 when there is already the umarex tr50
Exactly my point ;) Why not call it the Torpedo revolver.. It sounds cooler anyway :) Brand recognition would be my guess though.
Two things I gotta know. Will this see a uk 🇬🇧 release and can you fit 2 of the rubber ball rounds in each chamber? Because a double shot would be a nice party trick. Thanks Jon.
You're the second person to ask! We will answer that today! :)
@@AlternateArmsSD super sweet! Thanks 😊
Do you plan to carry these?
Already do brother :)
Are you doing an adaptor for the grip?
@@RexHuffman-wh5hg Mabey…… :)
Did you ever do one for the HDR68
Did you ever do one for the HDR68
Ciao grande fratello americano 😊😊.... Io ho 2 revolver HDR 50.... Uno s 7.5 joule ed 1 a 11 joule e in piu da 10 giorni ho anche il revolver inglese artemis cp 300 defender a 12.7 joule .... La mia opinione è che l' HDR 50 11 joule è la migliore in tutti i punti di vista sia come potenza di impatto , che come comodità di pistola ... L artemis comunque è una vuona arma potente, ma l' HDR 50 11 joule e davvero una potenza.... Anche la 7.5 jouke è abbastanza potente e devastante cm la sua sorella maggiore 😊😊... Ciao dall Italia fratello americano .... P.s. vorrei tanto venire in America un giorno😢😢
Saluti!
Dovresti venire a trovarci! È divertente, verremo a Parigi tra pochi mesi. Tu vuoi visitare qui, noi vogliamo visitare laggiù :) Il TR50 è sicuramente un OTTIMO lanciatore. Grazie per aver guardato Brother!
This is not a TR50….
Actually, yes it is. The “TR” on this refers to “Torpedo Revolver” whereas on the Umarex TR50 is stands for “Tactical Revolver”
I’m scared
@@raymondmosier5858 hehe
It seems like they copied Umarex😩
Its close... BUT..watch the next video.. I can see what they are going for.
Shot myself in the face with this. It works.
ROFL! What did we learn? :)
@@AlternateArmsSD ...it hurts and is effective. I would never try to rob myself again. Lesson learned.
@@steverockwell5074 Good call :)