Glad Byrna finally responded to you. Love the Glock, got a holster being delivered to the terminal tomorrow. Guys and Gals, this is one of the best resellers out there. He literally took his holster off his belt when I asked for his holster. Yes, I wanted his because his was already broken in and it saved me countless hours trying to break in a leather holster. If you’re in the Fort Worth Texas area, I highly recommend visiting him. I’ll be back for another visit. That said, I really really want Umarex to cross over into the Less Lethal edc concealable weapons utilizing their licensed agreements with actual firearms manufacturers. Yes we have the HDP/R’s but let’s face it. These are not EDC weapons they’re home defense and too bulky to be EDC. Thanks to LLC people like Mike Moots, we can have our Glocks/PPQ/S&W perform a tad bit better, but we still have a long way to go and I don’t believe we need more than 20J when using OC/CS in conjunction with solid kinetics. We are almost there but not quite yet. Byrna has their 16j, LTL has their 18J, so we just need Umarex to step up to the plate and hopefully keep it compact enough to be an EDC concealable weapon.
Thank you so much! It was great meeting you! The spring from mike is adding 10%-15% power.. I'm working on a video but I'm stress testing one like crazy before I do. The lower density has me a little concerned for long term durability... but we shall see :) I agree about Umarex. However, in Europe you can buy the full power models off the shelf. I'm not sure why it would be different here, but it is. I've heard rumors of a 1911 and a baretta 92F in the future.. I REALLY hope its true!
Thanks, you too, I have a question I just tested my mercury rise and at the end of the CO2 before it was all out it start hissing after the last 2 shots, is that good are bad?
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Jon, excellent presentation. This MUB 50 is very similar to the Salt Supply S2. Same magazine and loading procedures. Take care Brother 🙏
update. I have one of these. and shot it at a target that I thought would stop it. but it did not and found my rounds in the byrna box that I had behind it.(still love my byrna). these are powerfull. but when carrying nthem you can pop the mag release. and nI don't see the MUB43 anymore ( 9/20/23) which sucks because I want more mags for it. but they do have a nice .50 caliber revolver that Jon reveiws later.
Would like to mention, just saw your most recent video, and this is such a good option seeing as their newest launcher is completely sold out 😢😅 love the vids and thanks for the info as always
I bought 2 of these because of your video so thanks for rthat and I can say these things kick azz! I hope they make a suppresor for this but if not that's cool, 425 FPS is consistant, damn!
Awesome brother! Yeah, that company is definitely got their stuff together and they are going places. I’m gonna look into designing a 3-D printed, muzzle brake and silencer for it.
I think this just blew away the byrna.( and I got 3 of them). and I just odered the 43 cal one. now I want one of these. now about the new Walther you were teasing us in thwe other video...........
Great video as always. I remember you saying this was coming out soon. I was able to order one and two spare magazines from Amazon three days ago.The sad part is it won't get here until March 6th. At least after watching this, I know it will be worth the wait. Thanks for making my day again.
My pleasure man! You're going to love it!! Mercury Rise was so awesome! They promised me the "first one out of the crate" and they really came through! I REALLY hope they continue to expand and improve their launchers. They could be a serious contender in the future!
@@AlternateArmsSD By the way, I love the zombie target. It goes well with the skully. I wonder how this will do with the solid nylon balls? Look forward to future videos.
Just got mines today 🤘🏾🔥 I keep it loaded and close when ever I go out. CO2 not punchered yet until ready to use in a life threatening situation also with my new holster on the way 🚚 📦. I can already tell im definitely gonna have a non lethal self defense weapon collection. Pistol & rifles. This is beginning for me
Actually, the compatibility is very close. However, they are thinner than a 1911. If you put them side-by-side with an HDP 50, you can see the difference.
great video!.. Try shooting a pepper ball or a steel ball once with a blank firing gun with an 18mm or 22mm diameter "adapter" attached to the end... You will be very surprised... It is among the "home defense tools" in many European countries.
Greetings and thanks Brother! You know, I have considered delving into the blank firing guns but in America they are still treated as firearms in some places. Its a grey area.
Good presentation. You mentioned the barrel was a little longer than the HDP.50. Is that due to the difference in power out of the box? I can see how someone might fumble around with swapping mags. Although for self defense the idea is to fire and get away. Not have a shoot out. Price point is good. You mentioned the Byrna PE. My guess that won't see the light of day for at least a year. If anytime.
Hehe They actually gave me hope on the Email from Byrna... We shall see! I'm betting that the extra inch of barrel at least contributes to the greater power out of the box. :) Thanks for watching!
I'm not surprised the LE is sold out, the excitement for it was huge in the Byrna community. I'm still not completely sold on the EP, but only because I'm not sure how safe it would be to not have a safety on your launcher if you're in a panic situation when drawing it, especially if you're using chemical rounds. The PE is expected sometime later this year or early 2024 if the investor reports are anything to go by. But it could change, but it'd be a bad decision on Byrna's part to not get a smaller concealable it to market sooner than later.
@@Joreel I agree completely! They have dominated the market for quite awhile but there are a LOT of up and coming companies. Good for us, competition for them :)
The only thing I don’t like is the position of the mag ejection button. I bought a holster but pulling the pistol out it presses the ejection mag button and the mag falls out. I have to keep the safety off to keep the mag in but it will still pop out a little with out falling out so you have to press the mag tip back in fully then pop the co2 and fire. I bought a belly band holster also but the rail on the pistol snags on the stretchy fabric so that sucked too. Later on I might shoot my finger off using a real gun with muscle memory because I keep pressing in the mag tip to make sure it is fully in and safety is off so it do not fall out.
Its so funny you'd mention that! I modified a leather holster JUST for that reason. Its a very innovative solution but some good, launcher specific, holster line would be great! Have you tried the Torpedo Revolver from them yet? That thing is awesome.
Is there a silencer for this launcher yet. I like practicing with it but it's too loud. Maybe I will be able to practice with it, in my back yard, on the 4th of July and New Year Eve. 😂😂😂
The holster is a problem. How can one avoid the holster pressing on the magazine trigger so that the magazine falls out? Not such a good solution here. Does anyone have any tips for suitable holsters? I also want to put a laser on this one.
Greetings! Yeah, that's annoying and i found that myself. I use a regular leather holster (That fits several of my launchers) it seems to work and keeps the pressure off of that release. Also, you can have a kydex holster made at a gunshow which will avoid it all together. 9Im working on getting a few made.
I would like to see them put the safety up where the hammer would be so it is in visual line of sight. To help prevent pulling the trigger only to find out is is on safety.
True, if they did they would have to relocate the valve for adjusting the pressure: However, the could integrate a double trigger safety pretty easily/
Got one...hits hard, harder than my byrna sd...6 shots vs 5 and the mags are skinny...i can fit 4 in my pocket but only one byrna mag. 10 shots vs 30. Hmmm.
I've got one coming in, I'm going to compare it to my Byrna as well. The advantage to the Byrna is one-handed first shot ability, conventional mag loading, larger powder capacity, and none of that confusing safety & mag release issue. But, the MUB does look like a modernized love child of a Tokarev and Colt .32 1903, so there's that...
@@AmbuBadger It’s a great launcher and a young company! The also listen to their customers (which is rare)! I look forward to seeing where they go next!
@@AlternateArmsSD Yeah, I'd love to see someone come out with a reasonably-priced carbine! I've got a soft spot for postwar SMGs, a pepperball Walther MPK or Beretta M12 would be so, so sweet...
I love how they can say what fps you are assumed to get right out the box. I'm not sure what grains or weight projectiles you used for this video but I am curious does it say on the box what weight should give you that fps?
I would tend to agree with you. The FPS reading is never followed with the ammo used for testing. In this case, they are the 2.6g rubber/steel rounds. They send some regular rubber rounds but they are tacky so I wouldn’t use them.
The Loading mechanism is a lot less clunkier then using a speed loader. As much as I like the aesthetic of the HDP 50 that "cap and ball" style loading takes some of the fun out of it. This however is a great compromise from not being able to load from the pistol grip and similar .50 replicas should revise their own designs and follow suit.
According to the MUB 50 instruction pamphlet it says you cannot unload it after it is loaded. This is very much inferior to the HDP or HDR loading system.
@@earthenscience There is a way to unload it it requires a small alan key or pin inserted into the top of the upper. This pushes the round down alowing the magazine to release. I Have the Hwasan.68 F7 Glock that uses this very same system just in .68cal.
I was initially happy with my mub50 purchase. But I tried practicing with it this past weekend and now it wont hold pressure with new co2 cartridge. I barely shot thru 4 cartridges a few weeks back. Now I will have to repair it, but being its basically new is a real bummer. I made sure to use the same umarex CO2 and always put a little oil prior to loading it. I guess worst case scenario I purchase a $110.00 paper weight.
I have taken mine apart because the very first shot at full power blue the seal o-ring and now I cannot find any diagram to put it back together. I got it all figured out other than the trigger spring mechanism but can't find anyone or any device or help reinstalling it
@@GordonClark-sv6pn do you know brother, I actually pulled one apart the day they released, and I was absolutely floored how complex they were internally. Overly so. Let me see if I can get a schematic diagram and I’ll post it if I can find it.
I was trying to order a Byrna from Amazon but they don't ship Byrna to Alaska. Now I am looking into the MUB 50 as an alternative. Can't find any videos comparing the MUB 50 to a Byrna.
I’d suggest a modified HDP50 or TR50 or the torpedo revolver. Those will give you the most punch for your money. Shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com if you have issues getting them shipped up there. I ship there all the time :)
@@AlternateArmsSD I ordered a MUB 50 before I seen your reply. I just received it today. I purchased it from Amazon. When I fire it, the magazine releases causing it to not load the next ball. Also, when I hit the release (on safe), the magazine jams and doesn't come out until I push the ball down with the supplied pin.
what is the tiny circle white nipple looking plastic thing in the bag with the Allen wrench and pin ammo releaser thing? thank you for this review your are my favorite personality. I just bought this pistol.
The ring is a replacement oring. The pin is to push the round back into the magazine from the hole on the top of the slide if you need to unload it without firing all rounded Thanks so much for watching!
@@BrainMeltDown Yeah, their documentation could be a bit better. They sent me a schematic with a complete breakdown but watermarked the snot out of it :) Let me see if I can clean it up and I’ll post it.
Hehe I know its a sea of launchers out there. Start with an HDP50. Either buy it modded OR mod it yourself for the experience. They are a fantastic, POWERFUL, and inexpensive launcher to start on. I have very detailed videos on them.
@CompleteTechnologySolutions: Thanks for the review, John! I picked up a MUB .50 and like it. The only major issue I have with it is that it is hard to puncture the co2. I have to hit it hard enough that it is uncomfortable. My teenage daughter cannot do it at all. Is this normal? Any ideas how to mitigate the problem?
Just between you and me? :0 I was hitting 410 yesterday using nylon/pvc coated jaw breakers. Its a cool little launcher. Just think, they are just getting started! If they continue to improve, they will be major contenders.
Hi John - I hear you talk about the hdp .50 with speed loader - I was wondering can I order the hdp .50 with speed loader from you? If so - price + shipping info would be great. Also I know you like the byrna for impact, but I was wondering how does the hdp compare to the mub .50. I have no been able to find a video comparing the 2. I are old - so i may have missed it. Thank you
Hey Brother, the modified HDP50 is much more powerful :) I have them both. I’m out of town until 2/27but you can shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com and my website is www.alternatearmsselfdefense.com (It’s a work in progress) :)
Where can I find the HDP50? Looking for something that’s both personal and home defense. Not comfortable yet having a real pew pew. But comment section has mixed reviews for the MUB50
Check out "CHI-E SDP 50 1911" its from Taiwan Looks even closer to a 1911 then this. It has a upper slide I bet can be modified to take the MUB magazines.
Brother, this is exactly why I love this channel in this community! I’ve never even heard of it, but now that it’s on my radar, you better believe I’m gonna get one in.
@@AlternateArmsSD I'm looking forward to it. I wanna get one as well. Shows a lot of potential and if you are a fan of the HDP and Alfa this might Blow you away.
Hey brother, well, it uses the same type of plastic that the HDP 50 does. However, the teardown on this launcher is much more complicated and can explode into a shower of springs and parts. At some point in the future, I will do that video for you guys.
@@shaundennison5391 well, there’s pros and cons both directions. I live in Texas, so it’s pretty much legal to carry everything :-) as far as the blanks, though, since you’re still firing off of a cartridge using a primer, it would still be considered a firearm. Now there are several different companies that utilize a method like this like JPX, and I’ve been meaning to get one of theirs and the test, but they use a primer to propel a stream a great distance actually.
Thank u buddy I live in South Africa and getting a licence to carry a real firearm is difficult. I bought a blank gun the up side of it is that u dont have to buy CO2 cartridges. I have never used mine for self defence as yet and have it for about two years now. Anyways I like ur Videos and I am think about buying a pepper ball gun just still considering which one.
I got the MUB 50 and it jams all the time. When I fire it, the magazine releases (without touching the release button) causing it to jam.I contacted Mercury Rise and they say it's my fault and want me to upload a video of me shooting it as proof. I don't do videos. So far, I don't think they are a very reliable company.
I agree I’m in the same boat , thing gets jammed a lot and customer service is the worst . Couldn’t even get me a free replacement. Definitely trash, I’ll just wait till I find something better
@@AlternateArmsSD I ordered a Byrna LE. Just waiting for it to be sent. I got the MUB 50 working by removing the magazine release and the lever which keeps it from ejecting when not on safe. Have to use a small screwdriver to eject the mag but it works (kinda).
Oh ouch! My guess is that that means your hammer is not making full contact with a firing pin. If it’s hitting it lightly, that would explain the lack of pressure. You might look into a rebuild kit and rebuild the mechanism.
@@AlternateArmsSD i had to pull the hammer out of the valve w/ pliers. I think the valve is damaged. I likely will not try to fix it. I have better ones to catch up on their maintenance and such.
Well, that boils down to personal preference, and of course, payload. You get considerably more powder in a 68 caliber round then you do in a 50 caliber round. However, if you practice with your launcher daily, none of that really matters. It’s more about shot placement than volume. (But volume is never a bad thing)
@@kennymike7937 let me know if I can help you in anyway. I stock all of these, modify all of these, and repair of these daily, so I know them inside and out :-)
The Salt Supply is a BEAST right out of the box. It rivals the Byrna HD with no upgrades at all. Also, and I cant say this about any other semi auto launcher, I have NEVER had a jam in my Salt Supply. It just works every time.@@kennymike7937
Hi can someone help me please? At my Walmart in Hawaii.. what’s the difference between the crossman powerlet 12 gram co2 40 count box and the the other crossman powerlet 12 gram co2 40 count box but says for paintball and cost $10+ more looks the same. Also the 15 count box 12 gram co2 is $15 and the 15 count 12 gram co2 for paintball is $8 so weird
There’s absolutely no difference. As long as they are 12 g cartridges, you’re fine. I’ve tried several different brands and have not found any major difference between any of them. Just make absolutely sure that the tips are not threaded.
Mercury rise has a tendency to label everything that they have either training or paintball just to skirt some of the import rules. They are identical though.
Greetings, primarily because there is a point of diminishing returns with heavier rounds. I have a video planned for them in the near future with a few different weights.
Hey there, what do you think is the most compact but powerful pepper ball gun to carry? Im a small petite female looking for something that's not super hard to conceal or carry with me while running. Thanks for any advice!
If you are in a place that allows them, I’m go with the hdp50 compact (modified) or the byrna. Both are small, light, and easy to conceal. If you’re in an area that’s a tad stricter on what you can carry, I’d look at the penshot or stickshot. Both are super easy to conceal and the penshot is an actual pen. I have videos on both. If you’d like one, shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com. I’ll be back in town on 5/8
@@chihuahua_mama_1984 The ep Byrna is fine. On the HDP 50, that is an absolutely fantastic launcher, and very easy to modify. Shoot me an email, I have them both on modified and fully modified for sale. I may be able to save you a little bit of money. Yeah, I’m glad you live in Florida. I am in Texas where we are still free as well. As long as we hold onto it :-) As far as the holsters on the hdp50, they will fit any standard 1911 style holster, both concealed carry and external kydex. Byrna, on the other hand, is a little blocky, and requires some thing a little more custom. It’s easy to modify a standard leather holster to fit it, but it does take a little work.
Not as of yet. I actually tore one of these down and it is considerably more complicated internally than any other launcher. I’ve tested. I’m working on a couple of possible upgrades now.
@@AlternateArmsSD I noticed something interesting...on Amazon I purchased some 50cal slingshot ammo. Weighs 8.32g When fired at 350fps this produced 47 joules. When fired at 400fps it would produce 61.84 joules!!!!! 😳😳😳
2.5 or 1.5 gram rubbers balls, 1.5 should get 450fps or so and like with 2.8 aluminum balls should be mid 300sfps, whats the rubber ball grams you used?
The test rounds were heavy dense rubber as I recall. Around 2.4G. The MUB 50 is nice but I’m growing very fond of the torpedo launcher. Also, I’d you buy one, I have a 10 discount code on that video!
yea this Mercury Rise MUB 50 is a no go for me, it looks like that mag release button is easily triggered. Even just storing this in a sling bag/fanny pack, it would get inadvertently pressed on and release the mag, and that's a problem. This is the same problem the china prototype of the salt supply S2 had, which is why it was a prototype only(props to Less Lethal 4 Dummies for pointing out this problem in one of his videos). The real salt supply S2 had this problem corrected as a final production form. Mercury Rise needs to do the same for the MUB50.
Ok, make sure it’s on safety, there is no C02 in the system, and that the launcher is discharged. Now, I’m the box there is a plastic “pin”. On the top of the launcher there is a small hole. Push the pin onto the hole and that will force the jammed rounds back into the magazine. Then, release the magazine. (You have have to pull it a tiny bit if the round is still too high.
@@AlternateArmsSD Oh yeah and I totally forgot to mention something. I switched from regular oil to chapstick, it turns out that orings in the presence of most oils will get brittle over time and rip. it's a tip a friend gave me when he was telling me about the orings on his fuel injectors. I tried his method a couple years ago and I checked them last week and it seems that chapstick keeps orings pretty fresh.
Be sure you are only using a high quality synthetic oil. Dino oils will and can breakdown or dry out orings. We also reccomend staying away from aerosols as well, problem with aerosols being many use a carrier agent that will break down orings and seals.
@@wrekingcrew1398 Agreed! I’ve had people actually say they’re using WD-40 as a lubricant. Do you want to talk about a dirt and dust magnet. Another thing that I have found that actually works very well is a light dusting of baby powder, or any other very fine corn starch. As long as they don’t get moist, it is a perfect carrier and keeps rounds moving very quickly through the weapon. I love experimenting with these. I’ve been able to get far more power out of them, and I’ve even posted, but that was sort of eliminate the less than lethal purpose.
Never, until you puncture it. After you puncture the C02 and use the weapon, you should change the cartridge to a fresh unit. It will stay indefinitely until punctured.
@@LinkBeats15 you should fire all six rounds, and then keep firing until all of the CO2 is gone. Then, change the cartridge :-) also, on that particular launcher, you can just twist the bottom to release the pressure on the CO2 cartridge.
For actual real life I would carry any HDR over the MUB 50. By any HDR, I include even the HDRs that have unsafe Gen3 valves. The Gen3 valve's are so unsafe I try to avoid using HDRs for plinking. But the MUB 50 has a serious flaw with the magazines. There is no way to tell what you loaded into a magazine, so if you have a MUB 50 in storage for a while and you didn't write down if it was loaded or not, you have to look down the barrel to see if its loaded. And then you don't even know what the loadout even is. You cannot unload it after it is loaded. If you want to repair or maintenance the gun it is very difficult to put the magazine mechanism back in. I (supposedly) put the magazine in correctly and it just seems to dislocate randomly on its own. The latching mechanism is not robust. And one exception would be is a 7.5 joule HDR, I would carry a MUB 50 instead of that.
Actually, you can unload it. If you look on the top of the slide, there is a small hole. If you hook the tool that they include down the hole or a paper clip, you can press the ball down into the magazine, allowing you to release the magazine.
@@AlternateArmsSD The exact words of the manual says "Warning: Only the empty magazine in the pistol is allowed to be unloaded." The magazine feels junky to me so I am not going to disobey the instructions. For example, I took the gun apart and it was very difficult to put the magazine back in and it seemed like a flimsy design. For example, when I picked up the gun the magazine just popped out for no reason. I think I did put the gun back together correctly since I shot 3 magazines so far with no feed issues. And I tell you what, black rubber balls are no good for defense, I cannot see the projectiles at all. Anything bright colored you want for defense, metal is shiny and good for defense. And the sight picture is as bad as the original 1911, I do not recommend this for defense it has one of the worst iron sights I have ever seen. And I put my hand in front of the barrel to measure the power, at first I thought it had a lot of power, but only because some aluminum shards gave me a splinter on my finger. I put some Chinese aluminums in earlier, they had the more joules than the rubber but they leave a bunch of shards. The thing only outputs 8 joules max. I left it at Factory settings at max power. I couldn't tighten it cc with the allen wrench. In case the instructions were backwards I tightened it clockwise with the allen wrench as much as I could, it made it even weaker, 25% of the original power. I will stick with the HDR or HDP for defense. Someone made a video claiming this has 20 joules but I don't know how. I put my hand 2 inches in front of the barrel and it barely stung. You get way too many shots out of this thing, I had to shoot it about 25 times until it was empty. And I do not recommend anyone putting their hand 2 inches infront of the barrel (because of the shards.)
@@earthenscience once again, I’m not disputing what the instructions say. I’m simply giving you the reality of how to unload the weapon if it is already loaded without having to fire up all of the rounds :-) they are about 16 Joules out of the box. You’re gonna get maximum pressure out of the first 8 to 12 shots for certain and then diminishing returns as you go along. You are 100% correct on the build complexity. it is much more complicated than it needs to be.
The gun works without those two but it still has a very quiet hiss, I’m wondering if that has something to do with it or if I should change the o rings anyway
I love the fact that Scully is so widely recognized :-) it takes me about nine hours to print one at 30% infill which is what we are firing at. We were recently on vacation now and I had my printers on Auto so I’m curious to see how many of them actually printed and how many of them failed :-)
@CompleteTechnologySolutions Wow never made anything on a 3D printer but Great Review and I really like the videos Thanks very informative 👍 also can tell that you Love to do these Reviews for ppl 9 hours 💀 That's Amazing
Less Lethal Dad is saying some horsesh*t about this having 25 joules. Made a clickbait video saying the mub50 has "20 joules" but he just shoots metal pans the whole video and doesn't chronograph. Reading the transcript he doesn't mention joules anywhere. And he posts a comment claiming it has 25 joules. Then somebody posts that your channel "Computer Solutions" and is saying that you said this has 50 joules. But I don't hear you saying this has 50 joules anywhere in the video. You need to fix your mic though because every five minutes I have to decrease my volume because the volume gets deafeningly loud.
ROFL! I have never once claimed that at all. This thing was 16 and 18 at best out of the box. Do you think it’s possible to get 50 J out of this, maybe if you bottle-fed it, but even then, I think it’s a stretch. You’re dealing with a limited amount of air supply in the chamber.
@@jesusbrokemylegs You are relatively stuck with what you get out of the box with the mub50. I’d look at the hdp50, tr50, or salt supply S2 for more punch.
Glad Byrna finally responded to you. Love the Glock, got a holster being delivered to the terminal tomorrow.
Guys and Gals, this is one of the best resellers out there. He literally took his holster off his belt when I asked for his holster. Yes, I wanted his because his was already broken in and it saved me countless hours trying to break in a leather holster. If you’re in the Fort Worth Texas area, I highly recommend visiting him. I’ll be back for another visit.
That said, I really really want Umarex to cross over into the Less Lethal edc concealable weapons utilizing their licensed agreements with actual firearms manufacturers. Yes we have the HDP/R’s but let’s face it. These are not EDC weapons they’re home defense and too bulky to be EDC. Thanks to LLC people like Mike Moots, we can have our Glocks/PPQ/S&W perform a tad bit better, but we still have a long way to go and I don’t believe we need more than 20J when using OC/CS in conjunction with solid kinetics. We are almost there but not quite yet. Byrna has their 16j, LTL has their 18J, so we just need Umarex to step up to the plate and hopefully keep it compact enough to be an EDC concealable weapon.
Thank you so much! It was great meeting you! The spring from mike is adding 10%-15% power.. I'm working on a video but I'm stress testing one like crazy before I do. The lower density has me a little concerned for long term durability... but we shall see :)
I agree about Umarex. However, in Europe you can buy the full power models off the shelf. I'm not sure why it would be different here, but it is. I've heard rumors of a 1911 and a baretta 92F in the future.. I REALLY hope its true!
Thanks, you too, I have a question I just tested my mercury rise and at the end of the CO2 before it was all out it start hissing after the last 2 shots, is that good are bad?
Jon, excellent presentation. This MUB 50 is very similar to the Salt Supply S2. Same magazine and loading procedures. Take care Brother 🙏
They really are VERY close. Thanks man!
update. I have one of these. and shot it at a target that I thought would stop it. but it did not and found my rounds in the byrna box that I had behind it.(still love my byrna). these are powerfull. but when carrying nthem you can pop the mag release. and nI don't see the MUB43 anymore ( 9/20/23) which sucks because I want more mags for it. but they do have a nice .50 caliber revolver that Jon reveiws later.
Oh, the TR50 is something else Brother :)
Would like to mention, just saw your most recent video, and this is such a good option seeing as their newest launcher is completely sold out 😢😅 love the vids and thanks for the info as always
ooohhhh just wait..... I have a surprise for you soon :)
I bought 2 of these because of your video so thanks for rthat and I can say these things kick azz! I hope they make a suppresor for this but if not that's cool, 425 FPS is consistant, damn!
Awesome brother! Yeah, that company is definitely got their stuff together and they are going places. I’m gonna look into designing a 3-D printed, muzzle brake and silencer for it.
I think this just blew away the byrna.( and I got 3 of them). and I just odered the 43 cal one. now I want one of these. now about the new Walther you were teasing us in thwe other video...........
Oh, wait till you see what’s coming!!! Several companies have been in contact and the next one …. Well….. we shall see :)
just went out to try the mub50 I got from you, fires one shot then co2 leaks out. tried 3 cartridges same each time!
@@bobstruck-f9v Shoot me an email man. That’s not normal for sure.
Great video as always. I remember you saying this was coming out soon. I was able to order one and two spare magazines from Amazon three days ago.The sad part is it won't get here until March 6th. At least after watching this, I know it will be worth the wait. Thanks for making my day again.
My pleasure man! You're going to love it!! Mercury Rise was so awesome! They promised me the "first one out of the crate" and they really came through! I REALLY hope they continue to expand and improve their launchers. They could be a serious contender in the future!
@@AlternateArmsSD By the way, I love the zombie target. It goes well with the skully. I wonder how this will do with the solid nylon balls? Look forward to future videos.
@@bryancantrell1138 Oh, You're going to find out Brother! :)
@@AlternateArmsSD Good afternoon, how joules is this MUB 50 shooting at?
@@laidbck2x172 At that rate on a 1.6G ball its around 12-14J. Its a heck of a deal for what it is and I suspect they are only going to get better!
looks like something that is ussr surplus i love it
YES! Thats what I was thinking too!
Just got mines today 🤘🏾🔥 I keep it loaded and close when ever I go out. CO2 not punchered yet until ready to use in a life threatening situation also with my new holster on the way 🚚 📦. I can already tell im definitely gonna have a non lethal self defense weapon collection. Pistol & rifles. This is beginning for me
Oh Yeah! I have quite the collection myself (as you can probably imagine) :)
Enjoy your toys
Has a 1911 look to it. I'm wondering what holster compatibility would be like. I have the Urban Carry Lockleather OWB for my Byrna and love it.
Actually, the compatibility is very close. However, they are thinner than a 1911. If you put them side-by-side with an HDP 50, you can see the difference.
excellent weapon thanks for the demo
My pleasure Brother! Thanks for watching!
great video!..
Try shooting a pepper ball or a steel ball once with a blank firing gun with an 18mm or 22mm diameter "adapter" attached to the end...
You will be very surprised...
It is among the "home defense tools" in many European countries.
Greetings and thanks Brother! You know, I have considered delving into the blank firing guns but in America they are still treated as firearms in some places. Its a grey area.
A pistol grip extender that allows for 20g C02 would be cool for this.
Oh yeah it would :)
Good presentation. You mentioned the barrel was a little longer than the HDP.50. Is that due to the difference in power out of the box? I can see how someone might fumble around with swapping mags. Although for self defense the idea is to fire and get away. Not have a shoot out. Price point is good. You mentioned the Byrna PE. My guess that won't see the light of day for at least a year. If anytime.
Hehe They actually gave me hope on the Email from Byrna... We shall see! I'm betting that the extra inch of barrel at least contributes to the greater power out of the box. :) Thanks for watching!
I'm not surprised the LE is sold out, the excitement for it was huge in the Byrna community. I'm still not completely sold on the EP, but only because I'm not sure how safe it would be to not have a safety on your launcher if you're in a panic situation when drawing it, especially if you're using chemical rounds. The PE is expected sometime later this year or early 2024 if the investor reports are anything to go by. But it could change, but it'd be a bad decision on Byrna's part to not get a smaller concealable it to market sooner than later.
@@Joreel I agree completely! They have dominated the market for quite awhile but there are a LOT of up and coming companies. Good for us, competition for them :)
The only thing I don’t like is the position of the mag ejection button. I bought a holster but pulling the pistol out it presses the ejection mag button and the mag falls out. I have to keep the safety off to keep the mag in but it will still pop out a little with out falling out so you have to press the mag tip back in fully then pop the co2 and fire. I bought a belly band holster also but the rail on the pistol snags on the stretchy fabric so that sucked too. Later on I might shoot my finger off using a real gun with muscle memory because I keep pressing in the mag tip to make sure it is fully in and safety is off so it do not fall out.
Its so funny you'd mention that! I modified a leather holster JUST for that reason. Its a very innovative solution but some good, launcher specific, holster line would be great! Have you tried the Torpedo Revolver from them yet? That thing is awesome.
Have you tried to cut the mag ejector button with a hot razor to take off a little of the length?
@@CapNCreampie thnx great idea I’ll take a look at it
Is there a silencer for this launcher yet. I like practicing with it but it's too loud. Maybe I will be able to practice with it, in my back yard, on the 4th of July and New Year Eve. 😂😂😂
Alas no ;) They do have quite a POP :) Go for the garage and use a box with HEAVY packing foam. That works well ;)
@AlternateArmsSD okay thanks for the advice 🙂
@@kennymike7937 My pleasure man!
The holster is a problem. How can one avoid the holster pressing on the magazine trigger so that the magazine falls out? Not such a good solution here. Does anyone have any tips for suitable holsters? I also want to put a laser on this one.
Greetings! Yeah, that's annoying and i found that myself. I use a regular leather holster (That fits several of my launchers) it seems to work and keeps the pressure off of that release. Also, you can have a kydex holster made at a gunshow which will avoid it all together. 9Im working on getting a few made.
@@AlternateArmsSD I am from Norway, and we have no Gun Shows here. I will look for some Leather Holsters. Thanks.
I would like to see them put the safety up where the hammer would be so it is in visual line of sight. To help prevent pulling the trigger only to find out is is on safety.
True, if they did they would have to relocate the valve for adjusting the pressure: However, the could integrate a double trigger safety pretty easily/
Are you planning on opening up this launcher and see if you can get any more power out of it like you did with the HDP50?
Yes, however the MUB50 is considerably more complex internally.
Seems like a really nice gun. Oh and accurate.
Yeah that surprised me! I didn't expect much out of it but my jaw hit the floor when every round hit solid in a great pattern!
Got one...hits hard, harder than my byrna sd...6 shots vs 5 and the mags are skinny...i can fit 4 in my pocket but only one byrna mag. 10 shots vs 30. Hmmm.
Heh and just think, this is early in the companies history! These are only going to get better!
I've got one coming in, I'm going to compare it to my Byrna as well. The advantage to the Byrna is one-handed first shot ability, conventional mag loading, larger powder capacity, and none of that confusing safety & mag release issue. But, the MUB does look like a modernized love child of a Tokarev and Colt .32 1903, so there's that...
@@AmbuBadger It’s a great launcher and a young company! The also listen to their customers (which is rare)! I look forward to seeing where they go next!
@@AlternateArmsSD Yeah, I'd love to see someone come out with a reasonably-priced carbine! I've got a soft spot for postwar SMGs, a pepperball Walther MPK or Beretta M12 would be so, so sweet...
@@AmbuBadger Actually…. Hold that thought on the Barretta… more to come :)
That Pistol looks like it has Serious Potential. Excellent Video. Would be Interesting to see what Aftermarket Parts will be available. Good Stuff !!!
Oh, I agree! They are a very young company too so they should only get better from here!
I love how they can say what fps you are assumed to get right out the box. I'm not sure what grains or weight projectiles you used for this video but I am curious does it say on the box what weight should give you that fps?
I would tend to agree with you. The FPS reading is never followed with the ammo used for testing. In this case, they are the 2.6g rubber/steel rounds. They send some regular rubber rounds but they are tacky so I wouldn’t use them.
The Loading mechanism is a lot less clunkier then using a speed loader. As much as I like the aesthetic of the HDP 50 that "cap and ball" style loading takes some of the fun out of it. This however is a great compromise from not being able to load from the pistol grip and similar .50 replicas should revise their own designs and follow suit.
Yeah I was playing around with it and got quite fast swapping them quickly. It would all be practice practice practice.
According to the MUB 50 instruction pamphlet it says you cannot unload it after it is loaded. This is very much inferior to the HDP or HDR loading system.
@@earthenscience I'll Except the HDR. But How do you unload the HDP without Firing?
@@solreavir jiggle it i think. my hdp is offline at the moment so im not sure
@@earthenscience There is a way to unload it it requires a small alan key or pin inserted into the top of the upper. This pushes the round down alowing the magazine to release. I Have the Hwasan.68 F7 Glock that uses this very same system just in .68cal.
I was initially happy with my mub50 purchase. But I tried practicing with it this past weekend and now it wont hold pressure with new co2 cartridge. I barely shot thru 4 cartridges a few weeks back. Now I will have to repair it, but being its basically new is a real bummer. I made sure to use the same umarex CO2 and always put a little oil prior to loading it. I guess worst case scenario I purchase a $110.00 paper weight.
Where does the C02 leak?
I have taken mine apart because the very first shot at full power blue the seal o-ring and now I cannot find any diagram to put it back together. I got it all figured out other than the trigger spring mechanism but can't find anyone or any device or help reinstalling it
@@GordonClark-sv6pn do you know brother, I actually pulled one apart the day they released, and I was absolutely floored how complex they were internally. Overly so. Let me see if I can get a schematic diagram and I’ll post it if I can find it.
I was trying to order a Byrna from Amazon but they don't ship Byrna to Alaska. Now I am looking into the MUB 50 as an alternative. Can't find any videos comparing the MUB 50 to a Byrna.
I’d suggest a modified HDP50 or TR50 or the torpedo revolver. Those will give you the most punch for your money. Shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com if you have issues getting them shipped up there. I ship there all the time :)
@@AlternateArmsSD I ordered a MUB 50 before I seen your reply. I just received it today. I purchased it from Amazon. When I fire it, the magazine releases causing it to not load the next ball. Also, when I hit the release (on safe), the magazine jams and doesn't come out until I push the ball down with the supplied pin.
what is the tiny circle white nipple looking plastic thing in the bag with the Allen wrench and pin ammo releaser thing? thank you for this review your are my favorite personality. I just bought this pistol.
The ring is a replacement oring. The pin is to push the round back into the magazine from the hole on the top of the slide if you need to unload it without firing all rounded Thanks so much for watching!
Umm where do they go? between the co2 tip and the piercing screw cap?@@AlternateArmsSD
@@BrainMeltDown Yeah, their documentation could be a bit better. They sent me a schematic with a complete breakdown but watermarked the snot out of it :) Let me see if I can clean it up and I’ll post it.
Interesting not bad for the price enjoyed your video
Thanks Brother! Have a great week!
Where can you buy pepper balls for the MUB .50 and extra clips
I’ve got them brother. Shoot me an email jonreynoldscts@gmail.com
I’ve watched so many of your videos I can’t even make a decision but this might be a good one to start with?
Hehe I know its a sea of launchers out there. Start with an HDP50. Either buy it modded OR mod it yourself for the experience. They are a fantastic, POWERFUL, and inexpensive launcher to start on. I have very detailed videos on them.
@@AlternateArmsSD is Deadpool coming soon?
@@chriswedgworth check your email brother :-)
With the byrna they show it breaking a car window. Will the MUB .50 break a window?
With glass breakers, yes indeed.
How many joules is that out of the box
Around 16 depending on your choice of ammo.
@CompleteTechnologySolutions: Thanks for the review, John! I picked up a MUB .50 and like it. The only major issue I have with it is that it is hard to puncture the co2. I have to hit it hard enough that it is uncomfortable. My teenage daughter cannot do it at all. Is this normal? Any ideas how to mitigate the problem?
Funny you should ask… I’m working on something for that! I’ll be back in town on Monday (5/8).. stay tuned!
My wife has the same issue. I tell her to bring her leg up and use the thick muscle in the front of the thigh, just above the knee, to get it active.
great video as always! just curious, what velocity are you reaching with a fresh CO2 using steel core breaker balls?
Just between you and me? :0 I was hitting 410 yesterday using nylon/pvc coated jaw breakers. Its a cool little launcher. Just think, they are just getting started! If they continue to improve, they will be major contenders.
@@AlternateArmsSD IMPRESSIVE!!!
@@jomoney9076 Yeah, now it’s all about durability. I’m going to be firing it over the next few days quite a bit so we shall see :-)
If you could pick only 1 for personal defense - which would you pick? The hdp50 or the mub 50?
I would probably go with a hdp50. While the MUB 50 is more powerful out of the box, the hdp50 is much easier to upgrade into a beast.
Hi John - I hear you talk about the hdp .50 with speed loader - I was wondering can I order the hdp .50 with speed loader from you? If so - price + shipping info would be great. Also I know you like the byrna for impact, but I was wondering how does the hdp compare to the mub .50. I have no been able to find a video comparing the 2. I are old - so i may have missed it. Thank you
Hey Brother, the modified HDP50 is much more powerful :) I have them both. I’m out of town until 2/27but you can shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com and my website is www.alternatearmsselfdefense.com (It’s a work in progress) :)
Where can I find the HDP50? Looking for something that’s both personal and home defense. Not comfortable yet having a real pew pew. But comment section has mixed reviews for the MUB50
I’ve got them in stock (at the moment). Shoot me an email or it’s on www.alternatearmsselfdefense.com
Jon, does pepperball offer the quick pierce model to Civilians and will you be doing a demo?? Thanks in advance.
Yes and yes :) I spoke to them at shotshow. Check out that video. They are supposed to be sending me the new model for the channel :)
Check out "CHI-E SDP 50 1911" its from Taiwan Looks even closer to a 1911 then this. It has a upper slide I bet can be modified to take the MUB magazines.
Brother, this is exactly why I love this channel in this community! I’ve never even heard of it, but now that it’s on my radar, you better believe I’m gonna get one in.
@@AlternateArmsSD I'm looking forward to it. I wanna get one as well. Shows a lot of potential and if you are a fan of the HDP and Alfa this might Blow you away.
@@solreavir I sent them a message :) We shall see.
So can you load take out mag and get a seventh
@@staysharp525 Yep.
Any tips on dying this fire arm
Hey brother, well, it uses the same type of plastic that the HDP 50 does. However, the teardown on this launcher is much more complicated and can explode into a shower of springs and parts. At some point in the future, I will do that video for you guys.
Hi great video what are carring on your side bud?
Hey Brothwr! Thanks man! I alternate between the Byrna, the Walther PPQ, the Glock17, and the HDP50. :)
What do u think of the blank 9mm guns that fire the pepper mist is it legal to carry in ur state. Just wanted to know ur thoughts on them?
@@shaundennison5391 well, there’s pros and cons both directions. I live in Texas, so it’s pretty much legal to carry everything :-) as far as the blanks, though, since you’re still firing off of a cartridge using a primer, it would still be considered a firearm. Now there are several different companies that utilize a method like this like JPX, and I’ve been meaning to get one of theirs and the test, but they use a primer to propel a stream a great distance actually.
Thank u buddy I live in South Africa and getting a licence to carry a real firearm is difficult. I bought a blank gun the up side of it is that u dont have to buy CO2 cartridges. I have never used mine for self defence as yet and have it for about two years now. Anyways I like ur Videos and I am think about buying a pepper ball gun just still considering which one.
@@shaundennison5391 I understand! Look into a TR50 or HDP50 fully modified. Those will give you a TON of punch for your money.
I got the MUB 50 and it jams all the time. When I fire it, the magazine releases (without touching the release button) causing it to jam.I contacted Mercury Rise and they say it's my fault and want me to upload a video of me shooting it as proof. I don't do videos. So far, I don't think they are a very reliable company.
Hey brother, send me some details about this to my email. Jonreynoldscts@gmail.com Let me see what I can do.
I agree I’m in the same boat , thing gets jammed a lot and customer service is the worst . Couldn’t even get me a free replacement. Definitely trash, I’ll just wait till I find something better
Look into the HDP50. Modified, they hit much harder and with far less moving pieces.@@Tom-wl7sm
@@AlternateArmsSD I ordered a Byrna LE. Just waiting for it to be sent. I got the MUB 50 working by removing the magazine release and the lever which keeps it from ejecting when not on safe. Have to use a small screwdriver to eject the mag but it works (kinda).
i dropped my lancer Scorpion and it must have landed on the hammer. it shoots super week now.
Oh ouch! My guess is that that means your hammer is not making full contact with a firing pin. If it’s hitting it lightly, that would explain the lack of pressure. You might look into a rebuild kit and rebuild the mechanism.
@@AlternateArmsSD i had to pull the hammer out of the valve w/ pliers. I think the valve is damaged. I likely will not try to fix it. I have better ones to catch up on their maintenance and such.
@@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904 I hear you brother!! Too many projects and never enough time :)
I need a holster for my MUB .50 but im also a lefty any suggestions????
Absolutely, there’s actually a universal Kydex holster that you can get on Amazon. Let me see if I can dig up that link.
@@AlternateArmsSD please and thanks
@@AlternateArmsSD any luck finding the link? If you can't send the link what is it called I can look it up
when you going to do a seal replacement on a CO2 pistol???
Which one Brother?
Will a co2 12 gram quick change adapter fit the mub
You can install a tap (and some have done it) :)
@@AlternateArmsSD ok sounds good i just got the mub with a quick change adapter but it leaks would taflon tape fix that problem all seals looks good?
@@Yaynlay It could but watch those threads. It very easy to cross thread those.
@@AlternateArmsSD yea i did that had to get a new one the adapter just not fittin right for some reason😅
@@Yaynlay Is bet the threads :)
So why put out the money for the Byrna Le ? And I am a Byrna fan .
Well, that boils down to personal preference, and of course, payload. You get considerably more powder in a 68 caliber round then you do in a 50 caliber round. However, if you practice with your launcher daily, none of that really matters. It’s more about shot placement than volume. (But volume is never a bad thing)
Can't argue with that friend .
I got one more question. How many shots can you get from 1 CO2 ?
Around 15 and then you will see a drop off.
What is the best ammo to use with MUB .50
Greetings! I use rubber/steel and pepperballs. Glass breakers work very well also.
What's The Best Co2 Cartridge to use with this gun. And which is the Best Co2 over all Cartridge?
So funny You'd ask! I have a video Im shooting today about C02 carts. Stay tuned!
@@AlternateArmsSD ok will do.
@@kennymike7937 let me know if I can help you in anyway. I stock all of these, modify all of these, and repair of these daily, so I know them inside and out :-)
@@AlternateArmsSD Can a Salt Supply Pistol be modified to Rival First Strike or Other Less-lethal weapons than Modified?
The Salt Supply is a BEAST right out of the box. It rivals the Byrna HD with no upgrades at all. Also, and I cant say this about any other semi auto launcher, I have NEVER had a jam in my Salt Supply. It just works every time.@@kennymike7937
Do you modify the launchers?
Oh yes. Daily. Shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com
Is there any mod to increase the power of the MUB 50?
Yes and no :) You can get a bit more out of them by dremmeling the chamber BUT if you’re looking for a huge bump, look at the salt supply s2.
Hi can someone help me please? At my Walmart in Hawaii.. what’s the difference between the crossman powerlet 12 gram co2 40 count box and the the other crossman powerlet 12 gram co2 40 count box but says for paintball and cost $10+ more looks the same. Also the 15 count box 12 gram co2 is $15 and the 15 count 12 gram co2 for paintball is $8 so weird
There’s absolutely no difference. As long as they are 12 g cartridges, you’re fine. I’ve tried several different brands and have not found any major difference between any of them. Just make absolutely sure that the tips are not threaded.
Is there any difference this one and the training pistol
Mercury rise has a tendency to label everything that they have either training or paintball just to skirt some of the import rules. They are identical though.
Thank you so much I love your shows and how you explain how to use and you go over everything good or bad thank you so
How many joules is it brother
18-20 out of the box. This is a great start for a new company! I can't wait to see where these folks go from here!
I wish you did FPS with the heavy balls! Why not do that? 🤨
Greetings, primarily because there is a point of diminishing returns with heavier rounds. I have a video planned for them in the near future with a few different weights.
How long does it hold pressure?
The beauty of this design is that you don’t pressurize it until you need it.
Ok where's the umarex hdp50 vs the mercury Rise mub 50
So many projects.. So little time Brother. :)
Hey there, what do you think is the most compact but powerful pepper ball gun to carry? Im a small petite female looking for something that's not super hard to conceal or carry with me while running. Thanks for any advice!
If you are in a place that allows them, I’m go with the hdp50 compact (modified) or the byrna. Both are small, light, and easy to conceal. If you’re in an area that’s a tad stricter on what you can carry, I’d look at the penshot or stickshot. Both are super easy to conceal and the penshot is an actual pen. I have videos on both. If you’d like one, shoot me an email at jonreynoldscts@gmail.com. I’ll be back in town on 5/8
@@chihuahua_mama_1984 The ep Byrna is fine. On the HDP 50, that is an absolutely fantastic launcher, and very easy to modify. Shoot me an email, I have them both on modified and fully modified for sale. I may be able to save you a little bit of money. Yeah, I’m glad you live in Florida. I am in Texas where we are still free as well. As long as we hold onto it :-)
As far as the holsters on the hdp50, they will fit any standard 1911 style holster, both concealed carry and external kydex.
Byrna, on the other hand, is a little blocky, and requires some thing a little more custom. It’s easy to modify a standard leather holster to fit it, but it does take a little work.
How much for the fully modified HDP50. Or do you sell the kids separately.? How about a price on a modified HDP 50 and
a price for just the kit
Any upgrades to make it have more joules?
Not as of yet. I actually tore one of these down and it is considerably more complicated internally than any other launcher. I’ve tested. I’m working on a couple of possible upgrades now.
@@AlternateArmsSD I noticed something interesting...on Amazon I purchased some 50cal slingshot ammo. Weighs 8.32g
When fired at 350fps this produced 47 joules.
When fired at 400fps it would produce 61.84 joules!!!!! 😳😳😳
@@CapNCreampie That’s brutal! Just keep an eye on your seals and detents. The steel bearings can be a little tough on them.
@@AlternateArmsSD How many shots, in your opinion before possible seal,etc issue?
@@CapNCreampie Generally it’s 300-400 depending on the ammo you are using. More on softer ammo or pepperballs.
Oh man, you sound like the guy from the Yankee Stacking channel! that's a quasi- prepping channel too... hey wait a minute!...
😂😂😂😂
Hehe Thanks man!! Yeah, I’ve heard that before :)
2.5 or 1.5 gram rubbers balls, 1.5 should get 450fps or so and like with 2.8 aluminum balls should be mid 300sfps, whats the rubber ball grams you used?
The test rounds were heavy dense rubber as I recall. Around 2.4G. The MUB 50 is nice but I’m growing very fond of the torpedo launcher. Also, I’d you buy one, I have a 10 discount code on that video!
@@AlternateArmsSD ok, that's pretty good joules for that 2.4g, I bet my hdp 50 compact would only get upper 200s with factory version
@@JayJone5169 Oh yeah, the compact NEEDS to be modded and it’s very easy.
@@AlternateArmsSD ok, I think the compact is like 8 9 joules just a little bit more power than regular hdp 50 but it's a good gun, thanks.
@@JayJone5169 Yes indeed. Both the hdp50 and compact are great launchers. Easy to upgrade and maintain and they are dependable.
yea this Mercury Rise MUB 50 is a no go for me, it looks like that mag release button is easily triggered. Even just storing this in a sling bag/fanny pack, it would get inadvertently pressed on and release the mag, and that's a problem. This is the same problem the china prototype of the salt supply S2 had, which is why it was a prototype only(props to Less Lethal 4 Dummies for pointing out this problem in one of his videos). The real salt supply S2 had this problem corrected as a final production form. Mercury Rise needs to do the same for the MUB50.
Yeah, that was a tad annoying for me too. I had a holster made for it to ensure clearance.
My mag is stuck now and it won’t come out , little frustrated
Ok, make sure it’s on safety, there is no C02 in the system, and that the launcher is discharged. Now, I’m the box there is a plastic “pin”. On the top of the launcher there is a small hole. Push the pin onto the hole and that will force the jammed rounds back into the magazine. Then, release the magazine. (You have have to pull it a tiny bit if the round is still too high.
@@AlternateArmsSD I have rubber steal balls so I removed them . They are sticky so I’m just sticking with rubber balls .
@@Tom-wl7sm Great idea! Also, you can use a silicon spray on the rounds as well. Have a great week!
I'd call that color _sable_ .
Sable... Thats a new one on me...but I like it! :)
@@AlternateArmsSD Oh yeah and I totally forgot to mention something. I switched from regular oil to chapstick, it turns out that orings in the presence of most oils will get brittle over time and rip. it's a tip a friend gave me when he was telling me about the orings on his fuel injectors. I tried his method a couple years ago and I checked them last week and it seems that chapstick keeps orings pretty fresh.
@@takafumiarisawa70 Very interesting!
Be sure you are only using a high quality synthetic oil. Dino oils will and can breakdown or dry out orings. We also reccomend staying away from aerosols as well, problem with aerosols being many use a carrier agent that will break down orings and seals.
@@wrekingcrew1398 Agreed! I’ve had people actually say they’re using WD-40 as a lubricant. Do you want to talk about a dirt and dust magnet. Another thing that I have found that actually works very well is a light dusting of baby powder, or any other very fine corn starch. As long as they don’t get moist, it is a perfect carrier and keeps rounds moving very quickly through the weapon. I love experimenting with these. I’ve been able to get far more power out of them, and I’ve even posted, but that was sort of eliminate the less than lethal purpose.
Can u upgrade this like the hdp 50?
Unknown at the moment… But I’m going to dig into it next week :)
When do you have to change the co2 cartridge???
Never, until you puncture it. After you puncture the C02 and use the weapon, you should change the cartridge to a fresh unit. It will stay indefinitely until punctured.
@@AlternateArmsSD so after I shoot all 6 rounds change the co2 cartridge
@@LinkBeats15 you should fire all six rounds, and then keep firing until all of the CO2 is gone. Then, change the cartridge :-) also, on that particular launcher, you can just twist the bottom to release the pressure on the CO2 cartridge.
@@AlternateArmsSD how will I know all the co2 is gone???
@@LinkBeats15 if you turn the valve on the bottom you will hear it “hiss” out. Hold it open until it stops and it’s empty.
Can you tell if the barrel is metal or plastic?
It’s metal. This is a very young company and I can’t wait to see where they go from here!
@@AlternateArmsSD Thanks for the prompt reply. I just ordered one. I sent you an email as well!
@@toofasst3389 Sounds good man! I’ll be hitting the emails shortly. Have a great weekend!
My mub 50 leaks from the barrel any suggestion on whats causing that
It's leaking out the front of the barrel I put my hand in front of it while it's coming out
You need to change the Oring in the valve. Its pretty easy and cheap.
@@AlternateArmsSD ok thanks
I thought you had to be on safety to take out and put in the magazine. So I doubt anyone is going to shoot themselves putting the magazine in
True, but accidents happen :-) always better to be safe than sorry.
Crossbolt safety and weird mag kills this for me, A simple backstrap or trigger safety would do.
For actual real life I would carry any HDR over the MUB 50. By any HDR, I include even the HDRs that have unsafe Gen3 valves. The Gen3 valve's are so unsafe I try to avoid using HDRs for plinking. But the MUB 50 has a serious flaw with the magazines. There is no way to tell what you loaded into a magazine, so if you have a MUB 50 in storage for a while and you didn't write down if it was loaded or not, you have to look down the barrel to see if its loaded. And then you don't even know what the loadout even is. You cannot unload it after it is loaded. If you want to repair or maintenance the gun it is very difficult to put the magazine mechanism back in. I (supposedly) put the magazine in correctly and it just seems to dislocate randomly on its own. The latching mechanism is not robust. And one exception would be is a 7.5 joule HDR, I would carry a MUB 50 instead of that.
Actually, you can unload it. If you look on the top of the slide, there is a small hole. If you hook the tool that they include down the hole or a paper clip, you can press the ball down into the magazine, allowing you to release the magazine.
@@AlternateArmsSD The manual says "Warning: You are not allowed to unload a magazine until it is empty."
@@earthenscience Trust me, you can. You just have to press that chambered ball back into the magazine.
@@AlternateArmsSD The exact words of the manual says "Warning: Only the empty magazine in the pistol is allowed to be unloaded." The magazine feels junky to me so I am not going to disobey the instructions. For example, I took the gun apart and it was very difficult to put the magazine back in and it seemed like a flimsy design. For example, when I picked up the gun the magazine just popped out for no reason. I think I did put the gun back together correctly since I shot 3 magazines so far with no feed issues. And I tell you what, black rubber balls are no good for defense, I cannot see the projectiles at all. Anything bright colored you want for defense, metal is shiny and good for defense. And the sight picture is as bad as the original 1911, I do not recommend this for defense it has one of the worst iron sights I have ever seen. And I put my hand in front of the barrel to measure the power, at first I thought it had a lot of power, but only because some aluminum shards gave me a splinter on my finger. I put some Chinese aluminums in earlier, they had the more joules than the rubber but they leave a bunch of shards. The thing only outputs 8 joules max. I left it at Factory settings at max power. I couldn't tighten it cc with the allen wrench. In case the instructions were backwards I tightened it clockwise with the allen wrench as much as I could, it made it even weaker, 25% of the original power. I will stick with the HDR or HDP for defense. Someone made a video claiming this has 20 joules but I don't know how. I put my hand 2 inches in front of the barrel and it barely stung. You get way too many shots out of this thing, I had to shoot it about 25 times until it was empty. And I do not recommend anyone putting their hand 2 inches infront of the barrel (because of the shards.)
@@earthenscience once again, I’m not disputing what the instructions say. I’m simply giving you the reality of how to unload the weapon if it is already loaded without having to fire up all of the rounds :-) they are about 16 Joules out of the box. You’re gonna get maximum pressure out of the first 8 to 12 shots for certain and then diminishing returns as you go along. You are 100% correct on the build complexity. it is much more complicated than it needs to be.
Please, I disassembled it help….
@@Capt.WillyB hehe Yeah, I did that once too. There are a few disassembly videos out there but I haven’t done one quite yet.
@@AlternateArmsSD what am I supposed to do with the tiny spring and long metal lever?
The gun works without those two but it still has a very quiet hiss, I’m wondering if that has something to do with it or if I should change the o rings anyway
No Skully or maybe not up to like 75% of the video lol
I love the fact that Scully is so widely recognized :-) it takes me about nine hours to print one at 30% infill which is what we are firing at. We were recently on vacation now and I had my printers on Auto so I’m curious to see how many of them actually printed and how many of them failed :-)
@CompleteTechnologySolutions Wow never made anything on a 3D printer but Great Review and I really like the videos Thanks very informative 👍 also can tell that you Love to do these Reviews for ppl 9 hours 💀 That's Amazing
@@DJb-ill219 Thanks Brother! Less than lethal self-defense has definitely become a great passion of mine. Also, this community is absolutely amazing.
Less Lethal Dad is saying some horsesh*t about this having 25 joules. Made a clickbait video saying the mub50 has "20 joules" but he just shoots metal pans the whole video and doesn't chronograph. Reading the transcript he doesn't mention joules anywhere. And he posts a comment claiming it has 25 joules. Then somebody posts that your channel "Computer Solutions" and is saying that you said this has 50 joules. But I don't hear you saying this has 50 joules anywhere in the video. You need to fix your mic though because every five minutes I have to decrease my volume because the volume gets deafeningly loud.
ROFL! I have never once claimed that at all. This thing was 16 and 18 at best out of the box. Do you think it’s possible to get 50 J out of this, maybe if you bottle-fed it, but even then, I think it’s a stretch. You’re dealing with a limited amount of air supply in the chamber.
Also, this is a very old video.
@@AlternateArmsSD whats the max joules you could get out of it you think if it was fully modded and still resembles a pistol when done?
@@jesusbrokemylegs You are relatively stuck with what you get out of the box with the mub50. I’d look at the hdp50, tr50, or salt supply S2 for more punch.
How you doing my mub 50 leaks out the barrel what's causing that