Next Tuesday I plan to answer the question of what the book of Acts teaches about Gentile believers and obedience to the Law of Moses. Here’s the first video on the Hebrew Roots movement. ruclips.net/video/QR7xTYhXEbo/видео.html
Mike Winger keep standing strong brother because here comes everybody out of the woodworks trying to get us to follow the old laws that were meant for a bunch of disobedient Jews. Despite all their miracles (ie: a supernatural rescue from Egypt, pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, Manna falling from the sky daily, etc.), they still bust out the ole golden calf the second Moses steps away for a minute. God kept having to lay down law after law to get their disobedient butts in line. Tell me why now must I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior PLUS do all the stuff the old Jews were doing. The very nature of telling me that I have to do BOTH takes away from the ultimate purpose of the Lamb who was slain!!! Satan is definitively behind this Hebrew Roots movement because only Satan would try to use the Bible to make claim that Jesus wasn’t enough. Let us remember what Jesus told the priest and elders who followed the old Jewish law to the T. He said, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.” Mic drop.
Please answer these question by the word of the God of Israel : 1. What was the covenant at Mount Sinai ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ? 2. Who is the covenant between at Mount Sinai ( God the Father and the children of Israel ) ? 3. Who was the mediator of the covenant at Mount Sinai ( Moses ) , and who is the mediator of the covenant now ( Jesus Christ ) ? 4. Did the Father accept the Strangers into this covenant ( Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn , and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you ; Isaiah 56:6-7 Also the sons of the stranger , that join themselves to the LORD , to serve him , and to love the name of the LORD , to be his servants , every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it , and taketh hold of my covenant ; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain , and make them joyful in my house of prayer : their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar ; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people ; Ephesians 2:11-22 ) ? 5. What is the function of the mediator ( Moses was the husband/protection/covering for the children of Israel when they break the laws of God ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ; and he did it through the Leviticus priesthood - the law of Moses or the law of animal sacrifice for sin - circumcision made by hands - the priests - the law of works ) : ( Jesus Christ is now the husband/protection/covering for the children of Israel when they break the laws of God ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ; and this is by grace ( free gift - his blood ) through faith ( Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God . You must serve this mediator by faith , repent of your sins by starting to keep the word of God - this is through the priesthood of faith - Melchisedec - the law of faith ) . The Father made the covenant , the mediators intercede between the two parties in the covenant . 6. Does the Father change ( Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD , I change not ; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed ) ? 7. Was the Strangers/Gentiles mention in the promise of God ( Genesis 12:1-3 , Genesis 13:16 , Genesis 15:4-6 , Genesis 17:10-14 , Genesis 22:15-18 , Exodus 20:8-11 , Jeremiah 12:14-17 , Isaiah 2:1-4 , Micah 4:1-3 , Zechariah 2:1-13 , Romans 2:11-15 , 1st Corinthians 9:19-21, Revelation 14:12 ) ? The church is the covenant between the God of Israel and the children of Israel . The God of Israel is no respecter of persons , but he that feareth God and worketh righteousness , he accepts , but only the children of Israel has made a covenant with God ( Romans 2: 12-15 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law : and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law ; ( For not the hearers of the law are just before God , but the doers of the law shall be justified . For when the Gentiles which have not the law , do by nature the things contained in the law , these having not the law are a law unto themselves : which shew the work of the law written in their conscience also bearing witness , and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another ) . People fail to understand that all of the God of Israel commandments are laws , not just the ten commandments ; when God told Adam not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , that was a law . The ten commandments , statutes and judgments to define the ten commandments given to the children of Israel at Mount Sinai are the laws of God , not Moses . The law of Moses was the law of animal sacrifice and oblations for sin ( remember he is the husband/protection for the people ) ; the law of works ( Romans 3:27 ) . The law of Jesus Christ is the grace ( free gift - his blood ) through faith ( believing , by starting to keep the word of God ) - the law of faith ( Roman 3:28 ) . In Galatians 3:19 , when Paul said the law was added because of transgressions , we must understand what is transgressions ( 1st John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law : for sin is the transgression of the law ) ; so are you saying that the law of God was added because they were breaking the laws of God ; that's an error . The correct statement is : the law of animal sacrifice was added , because they were breaking the laws of God . We are to keep the commandments of the Father , through the faith of the Son ( Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints : here are they that keep the commandments of God , and the faith of Jesus ) . All laws come from the God of Israel , and they are holy and righteous ( He is a righteous/holy God ) ; His covenants are laws , and they are eternal ; He identify what his laws pertains to , all has a purpose . When the covenant people ( children of Israel ) begin to violate the laws given to them ( remember the wages of sin is death ) ; through their husband/protector/mediator Moses , he gave them the sin sacrifice of the flesh ( circumcision made by hands , or the law of animal sacrifice , or the law of Moses ) ; to kept God from killing their body ; not for the forgiveness of the heart/mind/conscience/spirit ; because to serve and obey God , you must live by faith ( repent of your sins with a sorrowful heart , and start believing God by obedience ) . The law of Christ is the sin sacrifice of faith ; because Jesus obeyed the Father's laws completely ( no sins , no death ) ; so he died not for himself , but for all who live by faith through their new husband of faith ( Christ ) ; not by their old husband of works ( Moses ) . The laws of the Father never changed ; Moses gave the children of Israel , the laws of God on tables of stone , and written in ink in the book of the covenant , but the people did not believe ( obedience by obeying his laws ) : While Jesus Christ put the laws of God in our hearts/mind/conscience/spirit ; because you cannot come under this mediator blood , until you start believing his word that he received from the Father ( Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , " The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee , of thy brethren , like unto me ; unto him ye shall hearken ; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly , saying , Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God , neither let me see this great fire anymore , that I die not . And the LORD said unto me , They have well spoken that which they have spoken . I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren , like unto thee , and I will put my words in his mouth ; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him . And it shall come to pass , that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name , I will require it of him " ) . In Matthew 5:17-19 , Jesus said that he came not to destroy the law or the Prophets , but he came to fulfill the law and the Prophets . He also stated that till heaven and earth pass away , one jot or one tittle of the law will in do wise pass frm the law , until all is fulfilled . Is all fulfilled of the law ? NO ! ( Isaiah 66:15-17 , " For , behold , the LORD will come with fire , and with his chariots like a whirlwind , to render his anger with fury , and his rebuke with flames of fire . For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh : and the slain of the LORD shall be many . They that sanctify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst , eating swine's flesh , and the abomination , and the mouse , shall be consumed together , saith the LORD " ) . Heaven and earth is still here , and all has not been fulfilled ; so the law remains the same . Jesus later explained the statement he made in Matthew 5:17-19 , in Luke 24:44-45 , after his resurrection ( Luke 24:44-45 , " And he said unto them , These are the words which I spake unto you , while I was yet with you , that all things must be fulfilled , which were written in the law of Moses , and in the Prophets , and in the Psalms , concerning me . Then opened he their understanding , that they might understand the scriptures " ) . Finally , Jesus Christ came in the flesh for two major reasons : 1. To be an atonement for our sins , and 2. Completion of the words of the Father , to get eternal life . Question , Did Adam have eternal life in the garden of Eden , or was he learning how to get it from the tree of life ? Answer , he was learning before he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ; so why are we not required to keep the laws of God now ? Jesus Christ has redeemed or justified us back to the time of Adam , before he transgressed the laws of God . We have never heard the Father's voice , or seen his shape at any time ; so the same one that was instructing Adam , is the same one that came in the flesh . When Adam violated his instruction , or the Father's commandments , or law , he fell into sin ; likewise , when we disobey the Father's commandments that Jesus gives us , we fall into sin ( 1st John 2::1-7 ) . Jesus said it best : Matthew 24:13 , " But he that shall endure unto the end , the same shall be saved " ; until your death or the return of the Messiah . Shalom !
Gentiles were never obligated to keep all of the Laws given at Sinai. They were obligated to keep 6 Laws before the flood, with a new category (no animal cruelty) being given to Noah in Gen 9. The Noahide Covenant. These 7 categories of Law are for every human being. The first is No Idolatry. Yet you guys break the very first Law. The Creator refers to his covenant with Noah as “an everlasting covenant” which means it is eternal. It has no end. Was G-d lying? It became ok to worship a man as G-d, or his son, just like the Greek pagans (and many other wiped out civilizations) in your “new covenant”? No thanks. And I hope you will start reading he Bible in page 1 like every other book in the world. You might as well believe in Zeus and his kids with human mothers. God made other covenants but none of them ever said it was ok to break the original Noahide Covenant. And idolatry is the thing that the Creator hates the most. Not to mention jc doesn’t fit the criteria of the Messiah. Look at the list! That’s why they made up the concept of a second coming, which has no biblical basis.
Minute Ministry Gentiles were never expected to keep the Laws given at Sinai. They are bound by the 6 Laws given before the flood and the one about animal cruelty given to Noah after the flood. 7 Laws total which make up the “everlasting/eternal covenant” The Creator made with Noah and every human being on Earth to this day. No idol worship. No blasphemy. No sexual immorality, no theft, no murder, no animal abuse, create courts of justice. Notice how none of the covenants made later in the Bible say it’s ok to break any of those laws. And they still stand today. Except the Christians and their new Greek pagan covenant which says idol worship is ok now. Apparently they think the creator of the u inverse was lying when he said it was is “an eternal covenant”.
Lea Paton thank you this information. I didn’t realize that the Hebrew Roots movement was against the worship of Jesus because He is not God the Father. Interesting. I’m learning all sorts of stuff. However, I will have to kindly disagree because I do believe that we are supposed to worship the Son of God as I stated in another comment string to you.
Hello! I cannot tell you how much this video series is helping me. My parents have started transitioning our family into HRM doctrines and I have been distressed and confused. I prayed this morning for clarity. You have been the answer to my prayers! You have blessed me so much! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
I´ll share this 3 scenarios: 1) Seprent vs human. Gen 3 Strategy: Make believe God lied. “Has God indeed said,........“You will not surely die. Purpose: disobedience 2) Lying prophet vs real prophet 1 King 13 Strategy: Make you think God changed his mind v18 “I too am a prophet as you are, and an angel spoke to me by the word of the Lord, saying, ‘Bring him back with you to your house, that he may eat bread and drink water.’ ” (He was lying to him.) Purpose: disobedience This one showed the BEST RESULTS for christianity 3) Sathan vs Jesus Matt 4 Strategy: Use one part of the Scriptures to make you disobey other "IT IS WRITTEN" v5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: ‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’ Purpose: Disobedience This is the one we live at the momento. PAUL SAID..... Apostles said in Act 15.... Even preachers and teachers like this, with a very good ellaborated doctrine. and even if they did.... I´d take the apostles advice Acts 5:29 New King James Version 29 But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men. If the doctrine you are hearing result in disobedience, I may consider is not God behind it... Blessings and may the Lord brin clarity
Essentially it comes down to what is sin. The scripture says sin is the transgressing of the law. Which law? The HR people interpret scripture differently than most modern denominations, and I would say they make compelling cases. Is it still sin to break God’s commandments? When did the scripture say that the law is done away with?
@@SDreamchaser David didn't seemed very weighed down by the law. "I will always obey your law, for ever and ever. I will walk about in freedom, for I have sought out your precepts. for I delight in your commands because I love them. Psalms 119:44-45, 47"
@@etherealwave991 David was a Jew and was therefore under the Law of Moses. It has no application for anyone else. The Law became obsolete at the crucifixion of Jesus at which point the New Covenant came into operation. The NC is a Covenant of grace, not one of Law or works.
I have been studying the book of Hebrews online with the Jewish Awareness Ministries (a Jewish evangelism ministry). It has taken over a year to go through the entire book of Hebrews. The context of the entire book of Hebrews is Jesus Is Greater.
"For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." John 1:17. "Has not Moses given you the Law? Yet not one of you keeps it. Why are you trying to kill Me?” John 7:19.
Mike thank you so much for this teaching! I'm a new believer and I've been juggling these concepts and asking for more and more clarity and understanding. I've come to realize that we are not to follow the law of Moses, but rather the commandments of Jesus and humbly serve the kingdom with unconditional love. This video really helps to solidify that understanding and explain some of the scriptures I was still uncertain about. God bless!
I couldn't finish watching half of this video. And I've alredy seen how Mike Winger Twisted the words of the scriptures, and gives what he thinks is the meaning of the words in his own opinion, as if his opinion were authority over the meaning of the scriptures themselves. This is what humans have done with the word of God, Not only gentiles but also prophets and scribs, etc. Showing just natural human condition when they find something they are not willing to obey. Humans will twist, alter, water down, and manipulate the meaning of the instructions of GOD to their own understanding and personal interst, but will not seek GOD'S GIVEN porpose and meaning for his word from GOD'S owns understanding, Which we can find written in the whole bible. If we Just pay carefufull and close attention and remove our own human idiosyncrasy biased.
The commandments of Jesus is directly from the Torah- Gods instructions for living AKA the Law GIVEN to Moses? Jesus arrested the pharisees and saducees for distorting the Law, NOT for following it!
If we truly are in Christ Jesus and are willing to obey the Spirit, we will have an even more complete law than that of Moses. Meaning that obedience to the teachings of the Spirit will even teach things there is no law written for.
Hi there TP. If we are truly in Christ then we can call ourselves followers. Jesus very early on in his ministry stated that he hadn't come to do away with the law or the prophets and that anyone who broke even the least of the commandments and taught others to do so would be the least in the kingdom of God. You probably go to a church that teaches that Paul claims the law was done away with. Surely according to Jesus own words, this would make Paul one of the least in the kingdom. So by extension why would you follow Pauls teachings and not Jesus's? the following verse is worth pondering Matt 5:17-19 Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@@nzsurfer well said! If we were to say the name of the Messiah in English, it would be Joshua. I call Him by His Hebrew name, Yahushua. But right on man! In the right direction indeed.
James King Doing away with the law? God forbid. The law is for the unrighteous, as Timothy states. It's not, however for the righteous. Who is the righteous? That's truly the question. For there's none righteous. Except Jesus Christ, whom fulfilled the law, which man alone could not do. Which made Him the acceptable and Holy sacrifice, sufficient to redeem ALL who believe in His righteousness. To be under the law, means that we trust in our own abilities to keep the law, for salvation. This is the bondage we are liberated from, through the finished work of Christ. We MUST believe, not in our own abilities to keep the law, but rather His finished work of redemption for our Salvation. Trusting in Jesus's righteousness, means that I KNOW I cannot fulfill or keep the law in my own. Trusting in His righteousness means that I believe on Him to create in me a heart which hates sin and loves that which is good in His eyes. Trusting in His righteousness, is loving HIM and believing that He who begins a work in me, will finish it, because I alone cannot. My assurance that I belong to Him, is this ongoing, daily sanctification occurring within me, which causes me to cringe, and feel grieved, and turn away from situations where there is filthy and ungodly speech or behavior which, before didn't grieve me, and of which I was even comfortable engaging with it. The way I used to dress, which had no modesty, and the more I could cause men to look at me and lust after me, the better, where now, if my shorts are too, far above the knees I feel shame, guilt, and feel dirty, therefore I tend to dress more modest. I used to wear so much make-up that I needed an hour to put it on. Now, if I use more than mascara, I feel guilt, and just don't do it. Even down to the color of my clothes. I can't even wear red. Not completely sure where that's not right, except for it being a seductive color? Nevertheless, I am convicted enough not to wear it. This is the assurance I have, because if I had tried to become acceptable before God through keeping the law, I would have failed and not even understood, and felt under bondage, I would have felt, "Oh man, I'd sure love to wear those short-shorts, look how cute!, But oh man, I just can't if I want to please God. But I'd sure like to". Then the rest of the evening I'd be miserable because my heart was set on them, even though I didn't wear them, and obeyed the modesty code. That's the bondage of keeping the law. The freedom comes in Jesus, trusting in Him, He creates in us a heart which is not grieved by doing that which is pleasing to Him. So, I become, because of His work on the cross, and because of His work in me, I begin like, "Oh my, those shorts are waaaaaay too, short, last time I tried wearing them, I felt so ashamed and half-naked! No, I don't believe I want to wear those. Let's try these pants, they're not skin tight and they cover my legs". So, then I can be pleasing to God while my heart is not grieved and I am not burdened by the bondage of the "modesty code". This is the work of the sanctification of the Spirit which comes once you place your trust in His finished work for your Justification, rather than your own inability to keep the law, with heart, mind, and body. Does this help explain to you what I believe? I hope so. I wouldn't want to be responsible for leaving you with a belief that I believed any other way, and have you make wrong judgement in your heart about something which isn't even true. The law shouldn't be first, it can't be the horse that's pulling the cart. It must be the cart, and the horse which gives it power, and pulls it along our walk, us Jesus's righteousness. His finished work, He MUST come first. You cannot put the law above Him. Cannot believe you'll receive justification by keeping any part of it, or all of it, for that's impossible, no one but Jesus ever did, nor will anyone ever. The law becomes part of your heart, only after you put Jesus first, and trust in Him to create in you a heart which can even understand it, let alone desire to keep, or even the ability to. By grace through FAITH in HIM, and Him alone.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm an Ex Seventh day Adventist and this is a message I pray all of my SDA family and friends could watch and UNDERSTAND. I've also made a few videos about some of the SDA beliefs. But this video of yours is so ON POINT!
I think you are missing a very key point to Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. “Till heaven and earth pass away”, where do we see these words spoken again? Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. “ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.” Therefore the law is still relevant today and is not fulfilled until Christs judgement. People need to test everything against the scriptures and not because man tells them what to think and believe.
@@rocco9611 yeah.. what the pastor said about context totally flew over your head eh? By your logic the one who showed Peter about how not to call what He has cleaned to be unclean in his dream of a net of uncleaned food, is not God then? For at that moment, God certainly told Peter that the law on dietary uncleanliness and its application, because of the sacrifice of Jesus, has changed. Idiocy needs to know some limit
@@Jinkypigs How brotherly of you calling me an idiot. I wonder what YHWH thinks about that? Now as for Peter’s vision of unclean food, Jesus did not die on the cross to make all things clean. Remember Peter was instructed 3 times to rise, kill and eat to which Peter retorts,” By no means, LORD; for I have never eaten anything common or unclean”. This is followed by YHWH saying, “ What YHWH has cleansed call it not common”. At the time Peter doubted himself as to the meaning of the vision. Now this is important, Cornelius sent 3 men to call on Peter. Peter as all Jews of the time considered gentiles to be common and unclean. After Peter went to Joppa and met with Cornelius who was a Roman centurion, he understood the visions meaning. Peter said this, “ You know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” Call any man common or unclean, this is about humans and not about unclean animals or creeping things now becoming clean and considered food. Much love and blessings.
@@rocco9611. That is complete rubish and a twisting of the text to make Dr. Kellogg your master. Peter argues he has never eaten unclean things and has been kosher his entire life. You twist the table cloth filled with unclean food into not associating with Gentiles. That's pathetic but GOD saw your antichrist cult coming along time ago. The table cloth with unclean things comes down and JESUS commands Peter to kill and eat. Your rubbish would be CHRIST commanding Peter to kill Cornelus than eat his flesh. See how your lies turn grotesqe when you apply Ellen's lies to the text. Anyways, HE saw your lesser light and gave us Acts 11:2. More than two witnesses testified Peter did eat non-kosher unclean creepy things. End of argument. While were in Acts 10 your antichrist cult say baptism first then the HOLY SPIRIT will enter us. Your cult also forbids water until a new believer accepts EGW and the 28 articals. The Cornelius group were anready SPIRIT filled before water baptism. Your inspired lesser light got it wrong. She was pathetic in the WORD and was commanded to learn in silence, seek her husband to teach her and never usurp a man's authority. Your cult is in disobedience to GOD by giving her all authority even over your male scholars who disagreed and voiced their truth only to be fired and excommunicated. very common cult tactic.
I understand that “To fulfil and abolish the law” was rabbinic augmentation back in the day (David Biven, ‘understanding the difficult words of Jesus’) And basically He was saying, ‘I did not come to misinterpret the law, (destroy) but to interpret (fulfil) it correctly.” Obviously when He chastised the Pharisees’ manmade traditions he accused them of abolishing Gods commands in favor of their traditions.
Your right its so easy ,why would he live a life of righteousness because he kept the law ,so now without the law ,what is Christ righteousness that these people claim they have ?
@@thedisciple5115 I always think of Matthew 7:21-23 for these people. It's so weird. I remember from a pastor who preached that some christians now "believe in Jesus, but live like demons". Altogether, the bible even says sin is the transgression of the Law of God right? In other words, lawlessness. So then why that now we are in Christ, we become more lawless than we were back when we were following our flesh? I think the problem is, people don't understand the Law and Covenants. They also don't understand the purpose of the priesthood and the High Priest most especially. And above all, these commandments of God are just holding them back from their fleshy desires. Like the Sabbath and the food Laws.
@@bryanyawn your right,its actually bad,the food laws alone. The seventh day sabbath, is so clear,these commandments are so easy to keep.instead they do exact opposite saying christ set them free.i started at sunday church, after clearly seeing The Seventh-Day Sabbath in the Bible, seeing what Abomination pork is to God, I learned something new and was obedient. Christmas has a horrible roots to it. yet its these people won't dare give up that holiday, yes it is like their disobedient,definitely not the jesus of the bible they are serving. don't know if you did research on the holidays, most have Pagan roots to it, so now I keep holy days,"feasts". SHALOM
@@thedisciple5115 SHALOM Brother! His Shalom is very evident among His people. Yes, i know about the pagan holidays. I condone none of them anymore. Whatever is not in the feasts that God declares, i do not celebrate. I'm only beginning to observe His feasts. In the coming season, I pray, as the the Spirit of the Word of God through His son Jesus leads. I pray that the Lord guide us even more as we prepare for His kingdom.
I have found this topic a non stop search among others also. When we read scripture like these saying things like my law will be in their hearts and minds or within his people, or that we must worship in spirit and truth, and since the law is referred to as the truth, it is sure we are at least under some sort of law of the Most High. One terrifying scripture could be "depart from me you who work iniquity or lawlessness". I spirituality have found comfort in that I have found myself and others in a constant search for what is the law or even better what is it that our Lord expects of us. In the true desire to please the one true God, this devotion should turn into a lifelong, maybe you could say quest or search, of Scriptures other people's and our own Revelation, testing spirits, non stop prayer and fasting and studying to show thyself approved, improving the walk, and keeping the greatest of the commands (loving God and thy neighbor)causes those who truly seek to grow closer to an answer may find even better, a relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, to where his sheep will begin to actually hear his voice and become his "friends" John 15:14 for keeping his commands and acting in Faith. It is truly amazing to see the hearts of his children seeking him, because he called us first. My advise simply would be do more if you possibly can and seek his face with all you have, lose your life for his namesake, and remember other brothers and sisters may be at a different place than us but we all make up one body, so love and encourage each other as Christ did and does for us. Our Father has always wanted a people who seek to be his people and he will be our God. Love the Lord God with all your heart, mind, body, and spirit, all the rest will follow. Much love to you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Be strong and of good courage!
I know this is an old comment, but I have a few tears from it. So well said. I recently started down the path of Hebrew Roots, and was really getting deep into their teaching, all out of the desire to obey God and draw closer to Him. It seems to me that any way that the world is going is the opposite direction that we should be going, so the whole "set apart" theme of their teaching struck home. However, it has caused me a touch of inner turmoil with feelings I have toward other Christians who don't agree, and that can't be right. The heart of Christ would have me feel love, not feelings of lofty spirituality above others. I then saw a video discussing the core beliefs of 119 and possible Unitarianism, and here I am back with Mike Winger 🙂. I agree with you, that the constant search and desire to please God (and draw closer to Him) is a comfort, and my heart rejoices to see so many more on that/THE path these days. May God bless you, Kris, and anyone else who reads this.
If someone fulfills the obligations of your mortgage contract by paying it off, then we'd think you were insane if you kept acting as if it were still obligatory, and if you kept paying checks to the mortgage company.
but this is not what happened, Israel stopped paying the mortage. Then they almost went to jail because of the debt, a man came and pay the debt, and they need to pay the rest until they live here.
This example is misleading. It’s more like you committed a crime or slavery, born to serving the sentence. Jesus provided the rest of the story of law as well as providing the means to put an end to future slavery. Like do you have all the books in a popular series? If you don’t have the final book you’re still left wondering. If your order came in 3 shipments, your order isn’t fulfilled until you get all three boxes. But the boxes (the law of the prophets) aren’t taken from you, you now have everything you need. If it was done away with, you’d have no sin, no reason for Jesus, if there’s no law, we can’t see how much isn’t unattainable for us and then know we need God to provide the solution. It has to remain otherwise the cross is for nothing.
Rebecca S. You’re saying things that are true, but unrelated to the specific issue. The issue is wheteher we’re in debt to the Law once we’re in Christ. The debt’s been fully paid. But the Law still has a place, especially for the unbeliever, in convicting of sin. The Law leads us to Christ. “We know that the Law is good, if one uses it properly.” “The Law has become our guardian to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. Right now that Faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. For you are all sons and daughters of God through faith in Christ Jesus.”
Amen! Jesus said he would fulfill the law and the prophets. If you believe Moses, you would believe me, because he spoke about me. Acts 13:29 KJV - And when they had FULFILLED ALL that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. Not one jot nor tittle will pass TILL ALL IS FULFILLED.
All is fulfilled at His second coming, not His death at the cross. Jesus came to become our High Priest and to be our last sacrifice in preparation for His second coming. Hebrews 10:5-10 Therefore, when Christ enters into the world, He says, “Sacrifice and offering You have not desired, But [instead] You have prepared a body for Me [to offer]; In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have taken no delight. “Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come To do Your will, O God- [To fulfill] what is written of Me in the scroll of the book.’” After saying [in the citation] above, “You have neither desired, nor have You taken delight in sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin” (which are offered according to the Law) then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will.” [And so] He does away with the first [covenant as a means of atoning for sin based on animal sacrifices] so that He may inaugurate and establish the second [covenant by means of obedience]. And in accordance with this will [of God] we [who believe in the message of salvation] have been sanctified [that is, set apart as holy for God and His purposes] through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed) once for all. Hebrews is really misunderstood when it's says the first covenant is growing old and ready to disappear. Nothing is done away with yet, not until revelation 21 1-4 has happened. That verse tells us that at the new heaven and earth the former order of life (the Law) has passed, which reflects Matthew 5 saying that the heaven and earth would pass before anything passes from the Law.
That's very poor exegesis. Heaven and Earth didn't pass away, why would you think "all" was accomplished at the cross? What about "all" that he spoke of concerning the end times, not to mention all that has and will occur until then?
@@xceptioncreations8595 All was fulfilled at the cross what was of him. The heaven and earth passing was symbolized as the law passing in destruction of the temple. That was the heaven and earth passing. The death on the cross was what started it. The new covenant was in forced then but they were not ready to give their sacrifices of animals just yet. 😁😊😉
@@shellyblanchard5788 How can you say it was symbolic? Where does the bible call it symbolic? Jesus said until heaven and earth pass away. This doesn't happen until after the millennial kingdom. The bible isn't a giant puzzle full of interpretations. The bible always gives you answers. 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
Thank you so much for your ministry Mike. I’m a new believer and I’ve heard and seen so many in recent years say we need to be following the laws. I asked God for clarity and I ended up getting this in my suggestion to watch and I read Galatians where Paul talks about the law. I know God brought me to you and choosing to read Galatians. Your thoughtfulness in this has helped except the freedom of Christ.
Excited for you on your journey of learning and trusting God! In all these things about the laws, just remember that we can never be righteous because of anything we could ever do. God gives us grace and salvation, a gift from him that we could never earn. We do not have to follow specific laws in order to receive salvation. But we have been given ways to live and examples throughout the bible of how to live well to honor God, and some of these laws can help us follow him and know him better. For example, keeping a weekly Sabbath could never give us salvation, because we have already received that through Christ, but it is a free gift to set our lives in the weekly rhythm he created, to pause our business and rest in his peace. The other 9 commandments are more obvious. When people get caught up on exactly how we are supposed to live, it often gets really legalistic, like they're forgetting we don't have to earn salvation. We GET TO live our lives with Christ and lean on him for everything. So if you're getting confused hearing someone's teaching on laws, just remember they were given to us to help us honor God and lean on him. We have the gift of the holy spirit to help us discern these things, and I doubt any one of us has it all figured out. If you feel like some teaching is off, either it is or you're wrong - pray about it, talk to friends, pray for the holy spirit to lead you to how God wants you to follow him. Many Catholics are saved, many charismatics are saved...there are so many ways to practice your faith and honor God. Enjoy your journey! I love learning more every day. Also, I just heard this - how to pray? Lots of us christians jump into asking for things. Ok. Don't we want a relationship with Jesus? I want to know him more. When I have a friend or spouse, I want to know that person, maybe I'll ask for help, but I want more than anything to know them. I've recently thought about that and started praying more like that, it's interesting. I feel such a yearning to know God and, like, be friends. Anyway, I just got excited to see you're new in believing so I had to share. 🙄
I know this is old but Mike I just want you to know I am LOVING this series and also your Roman Catholic series. Your expressions when talking about Jesus and how when he was young he was asking so many questions just had me so giddy. God bless you mike 💙
Hosea 4:6 " my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou has rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee. That thou shall be no priest to me: seeing thou Hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."..... " remember the Sabbath to keep it holy"
@@ejuniorc09pkm sin is transgression against the law, it's that simple. I'm a ex Christian pastor ,I understand where you're coming from. Paul's writings are easy to misinterpret, God's laws not bondage, it just tells us what sin is, and not to do it.Mike Winger is a false teacher. Hes more like a devil to me. The damage he's doing to young believers.when you get into the Sabbath, you start looking into Israel itself, Christ was a Jew, you see how precious God is, then you understand Paul is not going against God's work. There's a reason why christ is still the lion from the tribe of Judah in the Book of Revelations. SHALOM
@@thedisciple5115 nope, as a Gentile, I agree with the man in the video. The Law of Moses came into existance at a certain time for a certain people but even Gentiles were accountable to God for certain sins which did not involve the Mosaic Law. This means that there are laws of God concerning righteousness apart from the Mosaic Law which came at a specific time.
I watch your translation videos bc I do translation work. I'm also a synagogue president. I'm not going to give an opinion on Christian theology, but will say we get Hebrew roots people coming in wanting to convert on a nearly annual basis. We're always happy to accept people, but they are usually sad folks who've estranged themselves from their families and are coming to us bc of tortured logical twists rather than any real knowledge of the Jewish faith. My standing order to our congregational rabbi is, for pastoral reasons, before embarking on any conversion program, to ask them to read books on Christian history that walk them from the apostles to the apostolic fathers to the church fathers showing who's who's student so they see there's no mysterious break in history where the Church ceased being Jewish and became Paganized, which is one of their beliefs. Otherwise they end up shattered people stuck in a religion they don't really want to be part of bc they felt another religion wanted them to do that. It's a disaster.
That is well and thoughtfully said. While as a Christian, I pray that our Hebrew brothers come to believe that Jesus Christ is the true Messiah, I understand that this is something that they must be led to by the Spirit of God. I feel very sorry for the HRM people, it does seem they have been drawn into error. And while I know that many leave the faith of Christ and convert to Judaism, I don't think that will solve anything. To a Christian, all of the scriptures point clearly to the truth of the Lord Jesus the Christ and the truth of His plain and simple Gospel of salvation through faith in His atonement for our sins. So simple that a child can understand it, yet so profound that it can be examined by the wise and serve to strengthen their faith. I thank you for your kindness and thoughtfulness to these poor people, and pray that you also may come to know Jesus. 🙏✝️👑🙏
Well that is absolutely false. The Jewish Christian schism was hard-lined at 135ad, the end of the Judeo-Roman wars. We see the political solidification of those cultural differences happen in the 300AD's.
This is a very timely teaching for me as I just read Acts 15 last month for the first time and found solace in it. I was so encouraged by what I read, I eagerly shared it with my wife, mom, and a small group of men from my church (so I got to preach a little... Yay!). The Holy Spirit in us will lead us along paths of righteousness for His name's sake. However, for external boundaries (law) for the Gentiles, the Church founders present these: Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. Acts 15:19-20 ESV
@@DanielLynds why do Christians fight so hard against keeping God's law it's unbelievable to me. Please tell me what acts 15:21 means if they went to the synagogue every Sabbath from listening to them preach about Moses what were they learning. The Bible is like a puzzle you have to put together read acts 13:42-44. I guarantee you they wouldn't let nothing about Sunday worship Christmas Easter Good Friday none of that
Christ is truly using you. I appreciate your enthusiasm and excitement for the Word. You are clear, specific and provide proof in context. I have been struggling with my family and their shift of the doctrine which they raised us to believe. It did not sit well with my heart, and I have been searching and praying for answers.
I think that one of the biggest error that believers who reject the Law make is that they misunderstand the Hebrew words for: olah - translated as burnt instead of ascent korban - translated as offering instead of approach mincha - translated as grain instead of present kippur - translated as atonement instead of covering moed - translated as feast instead of appointment shema - translated as hear (or more often as obey) instead of listen intently with understanding in order to give a considered response shemar - translated as keep (as in observe or obey) instead of guard and protect If we believe that a burnt offering (olah korban) is a slaughtered animal, we have completed misunderstood what is meant by an ascent approach. The ascent is to go up before God and the approach is a specific way to do so like an approach to an airport runway. If you miss the approach, you will miss the runway. I think all God-fearing believers will admit that drawing close to God is still in effect. So the problem arises in the approach. Again, if we think that the blood of bulls or goats is sufficient to remove sin, we are in error. Only through the blood of Jesus shall we ascend unto Him. Before Jesus made the kippur (the sinless act that binds us with God as bitumen or asphalt binds to whatever it is placed on), believers could only look forward to that day. The slaughtering of the animals most closely represented what God would do through Jesus on the cross. After the crucifixion, the approach is still through the blood of Jesus. And that is why we do not slaughter animals, but we still attend to an ascent approach. This is not trivial. I know it sounds like I am picking and choosing which commands to follow, adhering to the word in Hebrews 8-9 in regard to the blood, but that is because our part in the covenant was never about the slaughter of animals. It was only about the ascent approach. We still have an ascent approach and it is still only through Jesus and His blood. We are told that if we love Jesus, we are to "obey" His commandments in John 14:15 that is congruent with shemar shema as we read in Deuteronomy 12:28. Believers say that it only refers to the 2 greatest commandments or maybe 9 of the 10 commandments (accurately translated as words). However, we do not have to rescind the Older Testament if we properly translate that to mean "to guard and protect" His commandments (or words). The prescribed ways that pre-crucifixion believers listened intently with understanding was to try to see how killing of an innocent animal could bind them to God. Our observance of His appointments (moedim) is a blessing when we see all that He has done and all that He promises to do that is best represented by the Feast of Tabernacles (sukkot) such as bringing a new (8th) day (shemini atzeret) after our temporary dwellings (sukkot) are worn out. Believers who reject guarding and protecting the instructions of Torah because they think that it is "Law" that comes with commands and penalties misunderstand that Torah is simply instructions to help us live a life that is pleasing to God by listening intently with understanding to His words and giving a considered response.
I am Hebraic Roots. Enjoyed your 1st teaching. I,ve enjoyed a number of your teachings. Now it hits home. To be clear, I don't believe I should be obeying Moses's laws. I want to obey God's Ways which I believe supercedes Moses.
Hi Mike, I would like to re-extend my invite to you to come on my channel (or I can guest appear on your channel - either way) for a discussion about the Law of God. We can discuss the larger over-arching context of what YHWH defines as His Law and what the disciples taught about it in their epistles. I appreciate your conviction and what you're hoping to present, but there are some rather large ideas you've not addressed in this livestream tonight. I will be glad to comment (and more importantly exegete from the Torah) on Hebrews chapter 8-11 with you. I'm willing to discuss your main points with you as I've already offered in my initial FB message to you last month. Obviously, the comment section on your video isn't the appropriate place for it, but thankfully we both have channel's for our viewers to be edified. I know you previously said I can use your videos in a rebuttal, but I feel that would only increase the divide and strain the acquaintance. Bless you, brother.
I would love to see this happen. There are many rather large ideas he has missed. We can't make him see it, we can't make anyone see it, it can only come from the Father. I hope this discussion does happen so that people can see the truth and that they will soften their hearts and necks.
Large ideas? The main core of the hebrew roots movement has been debunked on this video, and you're still talking about large ideas that were missed? Can't bielive it!
@@carlosdavidcapellan See if you can "debunk" these Scriptures presented in context listed in this short video below. Walk in love, brother. ruclips.net/video/h9fvbsbUkag/видео.html
@@carlosdavidcapellan Paul calls them judaizers trying to bewitch the brethren. You can debunk them with a mountain of scripture and they remain blinded. Notice he quotes none of his "large Ideals", very typical of cults to accuse and never profess.
Thank you Mike for taking the time to do these videos it is greatly appreciated. I have three quick questions. 1. I am a Christian who keeps the 10 Commandments. Are you saying it is unnecessary for me to keep the 10 Commandments? 2. How do we define sin without the Law/Commandments? 3. The following New Testament verses appear to indicate that we should be keeping the Commandments. John 14:15, John 15:10, Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, Rom. 7:7, Rom. 7:12-14, Rom. 8:7, 1 Tim. 3:16-17, Heb. 8:10, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 3:4, 1 John 3:22-24, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John 6, Rev. 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22:14. I was wondering if you had planned on addressing any of these scriptures? PS I have appreciated the way you and 119 Ministries have interacted on this subject it is nice so see people with different views interact in a spirit of love Thanks again. Lily
It is unnecessary for you to keep the 10 commandments because they're the 10 commandments. However, the principles contained within them are, in essence, also taught in the new covenant. Jesus never said it was okay to worship other gods, kill people, or commit adultery, etc, etc. It's pretty clear those rules apply to gentile christians too.
What has attracted me to HRM is because the paganism in Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter and the rise of Progressive Christianity. Who seem to do the complete opposite of HRM, but appears to have got there start because they have turned there backs on the Torah and even what is labeled as a sin in the NT. I have seen many pastors seem to be focused on preaching about love, grace and forgiveness, but never sin. It makes me feel that preaching about sin is taboo like politics and we are afraid to lose people if we do. In addition I have seen traditional Christians claim to be NT believers because the OT is to confusing and violent.
@@GoosetavoS42 I'm with you Gus. Do you watch Apologia? Jeff Durbin has a pretty good message on how the law appropriately applies to present-day Christians, without taking away from the sacrifice Christ made.
Good questions, please question all. Here are some thoughts for you. Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands. Shalom
I didn't even realise I was heading down the hebrew roots path...I KNOW we are saved by faith ALONE, I was just wanting to be obedient to the 10 commandments, relaxed, informal Sabbath keeping too (used as time to spend with my husband and son, reading the bible together and breaking bread together). I'm not sure what I do now...I feel a bit weird. I accept what I've heard here but I really like being obedient 🤪🤣 I've always walked in my faith with love and respect and always known that I'm not earning my way to heaven, that comes from Jesus' work on the cross...but also I've held the 10 commandments in high regard as I negotiate my days (I've only been born again for 3 years).
Love in today's society has become more of a noun than a verb. By this I mean it has become only the feeling of affection and attachment. Love has lost its meaning as an action. Love has lost its meaning as a commitment. This commitment includes a commitment from both parties, not just one. Jesus Christ has already made his commitment to us, and it is our duty, if we truly love God and Christ, to uphold our end of that commitment by reciprocating the love that he gives us. How do we do this? The Apostle John explains best for us what it means to love God and to love Christ: "If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:15-17 "As the Father hat loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." John 15:9-10 "My little children, these things I write unto you, that ye sin not, And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: And not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him." 1 John 2:1-5 "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:1-3 "I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." 2 John 1:4-6 Only one truth can be drawn from these verses: To love God is to love Christ, and to love God is to keep his commandments.
"Till heaven and earth pass away" I remember reading in Romans and Paul explained that sin was in the flesh when we were born, and the law came and we died because of sin in us. The law magnified sin for the evil it was, and when Jesus achieved victory on the cross, he took victory over sin then. Since that time, we who believe in Jesus die to our flesh daily and walk in the spirit after him; as he died in the flesh, so also do we daily. The law has dominion over the flesh even to this day, but dominion over the spirit is Jesus's. This is why we're not under the law; because we die to the flesh daily and walk in the spirit in Christ. This is how I understood Romans when I read it.
What is “the flesh” that we die to? Because it seems like many Christians try and act like “the flesh” is anything and everything that we enjoy - that we are supposed to live some sort of ascetic lifestyle.
@@billyb7465 the flesh refers to lusts, or more accurately, lusts that are against God's established order. I remember hearing one time sin described as "pleasure outside it's proper season," and it made sense to me; fornication is intercourse before marriage, which is a defrauding of one another; when you join flesh with one another, you're one flesh for life, which is why it's so important to marry. Otherwise, you wind up exposing the nakedness of many a man and the woman feels unloved by many a man, to the point she hardens her heart toward men in general- after all, all those men hardened their hearts toward her first and refused to love her for real. Another example would be to cheat people, or extort them, even lie about them to the authorities so they're punished in some way; be it the loss of a job or jail time, or even a fine. Most people know this is beyond wrong even today, but there are groups among us who are finding success with these kinds of tactics, so they use them happily, supposing the ends justify the means. We always want to live honorably and justly among our fellow man, giving respect to everyone as one created in the image and likeness of God, hence why so many of God's laws dealt with how do you deal with people, even those who aren't of your nationality, their possessions and cattle, your possessions and cattle, etc. God said of the two greatest commandments they were these: love the Lord your God with all your heart, and mind and soul and speech. The second was similar; love your neighbor as yourself. Because we love God, we turn from the lusts of our flesh, because they go against God's established order, and they are acts of hatred toward God's order. If what you do doesn't go against that order, then you haven't done evil doing that, but those things which are done in their incorrect season, or have perverted the natural order, those are evil and shouldn't be done. To love your neighbor is to refuse to do evil to them; to treat them fairly, no matter what, and sometimes, you get cheated yourself, but do no evil yourself because you respect God's creation for God's sake. People do go overboard from time to time forbidding things here and there; they did it in Jesus' time as well, such as making sure you wash your hands, but weren't concerned with forgiveness or justice; weightier matters of the law, far more important than how many times you washed your hands that day. I always suggest to know your scripture and let it be your final authority, because whatever doctrine men come up with, it will be judged by God's word; the scripture.
It isn't complicated. Jesus came not to destroy (because the law isn't bad) but to FULFILL. When something has been fulfilled it's done, finished. Christians are -in- Christ so we have been given HIS completed life to wear. He didn't tear up the test, so to speak, he finished it and got 100% and his grade is now applied to us.
And if they once having that test accredited to them by grace through faith and turn to works filthy rags self righteousness what sacrifice remains without bringing Christ to open shame None. That's what the conclusion is denying Christ and being damned without a way to get back They take christs perfect test throw it away go grab theirs and fail for ever
Revelation 21: 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. Revelation 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Samantha Parks , the flesh Paul is talking about is the law of animal sacrifice , which could not redeem you when you violate the laws of God ; while the spirit is the blood of Christ through faith ( which means that you repent of your sins with a sorrowful heart and believe by obedience ; start keeping the commandments of your mediator Jesus Christ ; which are the same commandments of the Father , FAITH ) . Shalom !
@@messengerisrael3817 The ten are not the Laws in my New Everlasting Covenant with the many. It is not like the covenant made to the fathers. It is 2 commands and 1448 commands and instructions. Hebrew Roots violate most of these.
@@rickhuntling7338 Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , then read John 12:44-50 , then Revelation 20:11-15 . If your new covenant is under the mediator Jesus Christ , then you need to hear what he said about the commandments of God ( Matthews 5:17-19 , Matthew 7:21-23 , John 14:15,21 , John 15:1-10 ) ; but if it's under another mediator , do what he tells you to . Shalom !
@@messengerisrael3817what does Deut. 18:15-19 have to do with the subject of the New Covenant made with the many?
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People who live under the law say, look at me, look at my works. People who live under Grace say, Look at Him, look as His works. Romans 6:14 for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
People who live under the law say, I love your law, it is my meditation day and night. People who live under grace say, Thank you Yahweh for pardoning my transgressions of your law, accepting my repentance through your Son Yahshua the Messiah and thank you for His sacrifice for my sins and thank you for the power of Your Holy Spirit that I might fulfill the righteousness of the law Romans8:4 as your Son did because I follow Him. People who don't understand the scriptures (especially Paul's writings and they were warned 2Peter3:15,16)say, oh lord, thanks for grace and allowing me to live as I please with no specific guidelines, just unconditional, undefined worldly love love love that we can spread to the world through your son Jason, uh, Jesus oh wait, they are the same names (look up Iasous) and thank you for making us better than Jews. We don't like your holy sabbath and obeying our parents and staying faithful in marriage and we can say your name without reverence, say it a thousand times in a row til our tongues roll and we speak in another tongue that makes no sense to us but it makes us feel we have your holy spirit. We know satan isn't clever at all, so we stomp on him in church, dancing on his head, and we're protected by your blood. aman and aman.
@@minuteministry488 Jesus is the healing one of the Greco-Roman world. He's has nothing to do with Yahshua the Messiah. Yahshua is the Son of Yahweh. Yahweh is the Father. They are two distinct Beings. As for Jesus do a google search for "Iasous". Iasous is the same as Iesous. It is a pure Greek name and has nothing to do with translating Yahshua from the Hebrew scriptures. The proof of this is the variants of Iesous that you will find in the Greek New Testament. It has three different translations of Iesous based on Greek grammar, Iesous, Iesou and Iesoun. Iasous/Iesous means healing or healer. It is the same name as Jason. Phonetically it is the healing Zeus.
Dear Mike...please pray for my wife...her mame is Liliana... Its been nearly one year now that she told me she is not a christian anymore...she follows hebrew roots... I'm myself a modest pastor in a little congregation in Tenerife Spain...I've tried to make her understand what you teach because I teach that we are under the law of Christ (1.Co.9:19-23) but she says what she recieves comes from God...the word "christian" is not biblical...and "Christ" neither... I keep on praying for her but it is very very very difficult to live in unequal yoke...it affects every single aspect of our life... I'd really like to have a chat with you on the topic... Thanks God for his patience love and mercy... God bless Alan.
Prayers for you Alan. My wife and in laws are also caught up in Hebrew Roots. It's a larger faction between us. When they believe I'm acting like a pagan and idolater for attending a Sunday church, or not keeping the feasts, it can become draining.
Thank you that was a very good exposé. I’m so glad you’ve covered this!!! Clearing all the confusion out. I’ve recently came across a Hebrew roots movement on RUclips and I didn’t realise it until I started digging into their core believes. At the beginning I really enjoyed and was very blessed by their great teachings on Old Testament truths, I wanted to know more about the Hebrew foundation of the gospel and I found great answers on their channel, and I just thought to ignore some of the things they say or do (follow Shabbat etc) thinking it was minor since they still believe in Jesus as Messiah so that’s ok. But some specific things kept reoccurring in the teachings and I had to dig deeper, I realised they believe in a certain interpretation of the ‘two sticks’ doctrine based on Ezekiel 37. It basically says that God (Yah as they say) is reuniting the descendants of the tribe of Judah and the lost 10 tribes (Ephraim) and they teach that all believers are in fact descendants from the lost tribes of Israel that were scattered around the world and that God is bringing them back to the truth and to the Torah! They teach that there’s an awakening around the world of many people coming to understand their Jewish ancestry and coming back to the Torah. They went as far as saying that Paul’s epistle have not been interpreted properly, that when he wrote about bringing the Jews and the gentiles together as one new man he meant the Tribe of Judah and Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes) meaning that the gentiles Paul was talking about are the descendants of Ephraim. They have built a (convincing) case to prove that the Jews scattered around the world and are in all the nations. Even if it’s true that many of us have Jewish roots, that kind of teaching ends up being exclusive to a certain genetic group of people or ethnicity which is so NOT the Gospel. Didn’t’ Jesus die for everyone? What happened to whosoever believes ? This kind of teachings play with your mind. The channels teaches truths and mixes it with a portion of lies, and even if the portion of lies is only a part of it, it corrupts everything. They keep bringing back this doctrine at every corner. One of things that also made me start to wonder is that even though they acknowledge Yeshua as the Messiah they don’t speak much of Him, don’t seem to exalt Him more than that, don’t talk much of what He’s accomplish and who He is. The lies are so subtle. I didn’t know about the Hebrew roots movement until now. I knew something wasn’t right but couldn’t put my finger on it until I checked their cores believes. I think people are blessed when they understand truths about the Old Testament and how it connects to the New Testament with the foreshadowings of Jesus, but the deception is to stop there and to start living the Old Testament and the Jewish way again instead of realising Jesus fulfilled it all. I’m so glad the Holy Spirit opened my eyes in time. We need to know the Word of God for ourselves! Thanks again Mike and God bless you. *the channel I’m talking about is ‘Assembly of called-out Believers’ with teacher Isaac Heckman*.
great share Ruby. Thanks. for all my teen years I was fed good teaching from the Word at a Full Gospel Church but they taught big on British Israel(ism) which is not right. Your description of what you were being taught at the HeBR church sounds very very much like the British Israel doctrine. Glad you came out of that. It MUst be all about Jesus and who He is and what He has done; He has taken us out of the Law and we now belong to Him. This is what Paul says in chap 7 of Romans v1-4. It is what he means when by the Holy Spirit he says that we are not our own - we have been bought with a price (Jesus blood) 1 Cor 6. And we are not under the Law of Moses but under the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus - which has made us free from the Law of Sin and Death (which is what the Law of Moses was) - Romans 8:1-2. Abide in Jesus and go on growing up in Him to teh fulness of he measure of the staure of Christ - Ephesians 4:13.
@@ianmcdonald8648 thank you for your reply. My comment is quite long so I wondered if anyone would read it! Lol. Yes it’s all about Jesus and if we truly seek Him and not a carnal Christianity pleasing our flesh or justifying our believes or certain doctrines, He will set us free from deception. The deception is rampant out there, the devil knows God’s Word and he uses it to play with our minds and leads us away from the truth. Bless you Ian.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
I so much appreciate all the time and effort that each one of your videos must take. They are loaded with much to study and contemplate. May you always feel God's loving hands in all you do, Thanks from Canada.
The law of God is like a mirror that shows us our need for Jesus. The law doesn’t remove the sin- we must be cleansed with Jesus blood. If you have Jesus living in your hearts- then you are not killing, stealing, coveting, committing adultery and you love God and want to worship Him like He says. 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 KJV [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: Isaiah 1:9-10 KJV [9] Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. [10] Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah. Isaiah 1:16-20 KJV [16] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; [17] Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [18] Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord : though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. [19] If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: [20] But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it. Isaiah 5:20 KJV [20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:24 KJV [24] Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. 2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV [14] If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. Isaiah 8:16 KJV Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. Isaiah 8:20 KJV [20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Proverbs 3:5-7 KJV [5] Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. [7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV [22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. Luke 16:17 KJV [17] And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.t Psalm 111:7-8 KJV [7] The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. [8] They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. God is good Law is good Truth Unchangable Same names Jesus was the Word Wise men build on the Rock Jesus life was Obedience to the law of God Sin is transgression of the law By the law is the knowledge of sin Law is not to save us Shows us the purpose of salvation Jesus kept the commandments John 15:10 KJV [10] If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. What is the punishment for living a life in sin Wages of death Not binding - Mathew 19:17 keep the commandments Matthew 19:17 KJV [17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. How is it possible to keep them? Romans 8:3-4 KJV [3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Philippians 4:6 Mark 10:27 KJV [27] And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible. Proverbs 29 1 John 2:3-5 KJV [3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. Proverbs 29:18 KJV [18] Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. Deuteronomy 30:19-20 KJV [19] I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: [20] That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. Acts 5:29 KJV [29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. Hebrews 5:9 KJV [9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; 1 Peter 1:25 KJV [25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. Genesis 22:18 KJV [18] And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. Deuteronomy 11:27-28 KJV [27] A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: [28] And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known. Deuteronomy 13:4 KJV [4] Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. Matthew 3:2 KJV [2] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Revelation 3:19 KJV [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 KJV [13] Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. [14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Jonah 1:9 KJV [9] And he said unto them, I am an Hebrew; and I fear the Lord, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry land. Exodus 20:11 KJV [11] For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Psalm 95:5-7 KJV [5] The sea is his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry land. [6] O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our maker. [7] For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice, Psalm 146:6 KJV [6] Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is : which keepeth truth for ever: Revelation 14:7 KJV [7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 ESV Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary Exodus 16:22-31 Here is mention of a seventh-day sabbath. It was known, not only before the giving of the law upon mount Sinai, but before the bringing of Israel out of Egypt, even from the beginning, Ge 2:3. The setting apart one day in seven for holy work, and, in order to that, for holy rest, was ever since God created man upon the earth, and is the most ancient of the Divine laws. Appointing them to rest on the seventh day, 1 John 2:17 KJV [17] And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. Matthew 3:12 KJV Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. Isaiah 5:24 KJV Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. *********** Hebrews 5:9 KJV [9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; ************ Numbers 23:20 KJV [20] Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it. Is Sunday blessed and sanctified by God in Biblical scriptures? The seventh day Sabbath is Numbers 23:20 KJV [20] Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it. Acts 5:29 KJV [29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. Matthew 15:9 KJV [9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. ------ Deuteronomy 9:10 KJV Numbers 23:20 KJV Acts 5:29 Matthew 15:9 KJV Hebrews 8:10 KJV Hebrews 10:16 KJV Proverbs 4:4 KJV John 14:15 KJV
Hi Mike, When you talk about the native and the sojourner and Israel as a nation, Hebrew roots has a much different perspective. I think 119 has a video called “the lost sheep” and “what is the gospel”. The theology is that the northern and southern kingdom (Israel and Judah) split and the northern kingdom was dispersed among the nations (the lost tribes of Israel) and that God is restoring that, fulfilling prophecy. In other words, that we are Israel. This is a general doctrine of Hebrew roots. Also, the stick of Ephraim ( two house theology). To really rebuttal Hebrew roots, two house will have to be addressed. I have truly believed this around 3 years now and have accepted that the Torah is still applicable today. With that being said, I have an open ear and I am open for thoughtful and biblical proof of an interpretation and am willing to change views. Tackling the theology I put forth will get to the heart of the theology and debate.
Yeeeees!!! There is such a huge misunderstanding of what happened when the tribes split and ALL the prophecy about them being joined back together under the new covenant. The most clear teaching I have seen on this is from Jim Staley called Identity Crisis.
Just got approached recently by a leader from a Church of God and the first study was about how keeping the sabbath was essentially a salvation issue. Red flags everywhere. I gave him Col 2 and Rom 14 as a response to debate the next time we talked, but these in depth deep dives are exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for your commitment to study!
Col 2 and Romans were both written by Paul. Paul kept Sabbath - Acts 17:2 and encouraged all Christians to keep all Ten Commandments - 1 Cor 7:19. or do you believe these books are justification to forget the Command which begins with _'Remember'_ ?? *Happy Sabbath!!!* i pray church tomorrow morning (the Lord's day) is a blessing for all who know God and love Christ!
Keeping one of Gods 10 commandment "red flag" LOL. Sabbath will be kept for eternity in the Kingdom of God. Collosians 2:8 mentions vain philosophy and deciet based on manmade rules. The sabbath was created by God, eternal law.
@@tony1685the person you're replying to is saying that church taught Sabbath as a salvation issue. Keeping thr Sabbath or not keeping does not affect whether you're saved. That's the point.
@@camillewilliams3185 hi Ma'am! you wrote: _'Keeping thr (sic) Sabbath or not keeping does not affect whether you're saved.'_ - so a 10% discount on God's Ten Commandments is ok then? is that what Jesus said in Matt 5:19, Luke 16:17 or John 14:15? what about those who have the right to the tree of life in Revelation 22:14 did they say it's ok to now keep just _'some of'_ God's Commands? or that it's ok we forget the One which begins with _'Remember'_ ? that makes no sense, Ma'am. Bible shows us that if one doesn't keep His *TEN* Commandments, then that person or church: 1 - doesn't know God - 1 John 2:3 2 - doesn't love Christ - John 14:15 3 - doesn't walk in Truth - 1 John 2:4 4 - isn't headed to Heaven - Matt 19:17, Rev 22:14 thanks for your post, Ma'am. i pray this makes sense to you. questions invited and encouraged.
My dear brothers and sisters.... I've come to the conclusion that very few Hebrew Roots/Messianic/Puritan adherents are truly willing to consider the validity of their theology... my recommendation is to not get into long debates with them when they prove to be closed off to the possibility of their error... ESPECIALLY if they become hostile and accusational. I personally have made this mistake... it's EXHAUSTING, and it's probably contrary to appropriate correction or witnessing. Know when to walk away... know when you are casting pearls before swine... know when truth is falling on deaf ears. You speak truth, let the Spirit convict. Those who truly seek the truth will find it. All of Paul's writings are pretty clear on their error... Hebrews make their error CRYSTAL clear. So, speak the truth in love, but know when your conversation has become unfruitful... just plant the seed and leave it to the Lord.
I hear you on this point, but I don’t think his message is for those who are not open to teaching, but it’s for those that can understand the rational presented by 119 Ministries. It’s great that Mark is able to explain verse by verse. I personally have been struggling with this doctrine and I’ve found that when I’ve asked questions, genuinely seeking to understand, the response I’ve received from “traditional” Christians is simply that scripture is being twisted with no explanation beyond that included. While content like this may fall on many deaf ears, it’s message is still reaching someone!
The rich young ruler had fulfilled all the law yet he still lacked something...Jesus told him to go sell everything and follow Him. Have any of us done that? Have the Hebrew roots movement done that? Obviously the fulfillment of the law leaves one lacking in reference to following Jesus.
Though he didn’t keep the first and greatest commandment, which without being born again with the Holy Spirit is impossible. The whole point being, we CANNOT keep His perfect statutes. That’s why Jesus fulfilled it for us.
There's so much talk in the HRM about sin is the transgression of the law. I've never heard one of them mention Romans 14:23- But the one who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin. Not saying I have the perfect interpretation of this verse. Just saying I've been looking into this movement for 3 years (bc a fellow coworker vehemently defends it's doctrines) and I've never seen any comment on this Edit:spelling error
Concerning Matthew 5:18, I have been curious of this for a while now. If the Law (the Mosaic covenant) is still in effect in its entirety, exactly as Jesus stated it (“the Law”), and not an iota and not a dot has changed, should we still be practicing Leviticus 4 and Leviticus 16 (sacrifices and offerings for sin and the Day of Atonement)? If Jesus, as Hebrews 9 states, entered once and for all into the holy places by His own blood to purify and redeem those who believe on Him, would it be appropriate to still offer the blood of animals for our sins today? Of course there is no temple today as God purposefully removed it, but if there still was one, would it be appropriate? If the answer is yes, I do not see how this is not blasphemous to the very finished work of Christ on the cross and what He accomplished as stated in Hebrews 9. If the answer is no, then this would seem quite a larger change than an iota or dot to the very Law that is being claimed is still in effect from Matthew 5:18. I am hoping someone might be able to answer would it be appropriate to continue to practice Leviticus 4 & 16 (if it were possible) while remaining in the text of Matthew 5:18 and in the context that the Law (the entirety of it as it is a whole unit) has not changed.
You will find the answers to your hypothetical question in Romans, especially chapters 6 and 7, and in Hebrews, as you mentioned, and especially this passage from chapter 10: "[10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. [11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: [12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; [13] From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. [14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. [15] Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, [16] This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; [17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. [18] Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin." In summary, Romans says that those that are in Christ are both no longer under the law and are dead to sin. Hebrews says that by the once for all offering of the body of Jesus Christ, God has perfected us forever. So obviously these "hebrew roots" doctrines are deception and error.
Romans 2:12 Strong's lexicon "All who sin apart from the Law will also perish apart from the Law, and all who sin under the Law will be judged by the Law." Paul is hard to understand.
Not hard to understand at all when you read more than a single verse: Romans 2:10-16 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Technically though Mike Jesus first publicly proclaims he is the Messiah to the GENTILE Woman at the well as a foreshadowing of what is to come and then tarries in Samaria for a few days before embarking on to the rest of his ministry... Just a friendly bit of observation with all love and kindness Mike 🤗 God bless you and yours and mahalo for your ministry. God is great and I thank him for your preaching wisdom truth love and kindness.
So, we don't do the Laws anymore, that sounds fun! Besides, it is too difficult to follow, never mind "Everything is possible with God or I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
The Gospels have two commandmentss and 1048 commands and instructions. The difference is the sacrifice is finished once and for all. We haven't a license to sin because GOD chastens the ones HE loves on this earth even onto death if necessary. HE loses none that the FATHER draws to the SON.
Great video Mike. As an ex-Seventh Day Adventist these subjects are always coming up between me and my SDA family so this was very helpful. One question though, In Matthew 5:19 where he says “who ever breaks one of the least of these will be least/ whoever does them will be great.” Do you think Jesus said this because it was the beginning of his ministry and it would be approximately three years “UNTIL” “EVERYTHING” would be fulfilled on the cross? This is the “context” that I’m seeing here. Thanks again.
I think that Jesus is saying that the Law of Moses consists of 613 laws and anyone who obeys the whole lot will be great and those who miss that 100% level of perfection aren't doing too well. The truth is that no one can hope to keep all 613 laws which is why we need a saviour. The Law cannot save. Only Jesus can save because He has done it all on our behalf.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
everything hasn't been fulfilled - there is still sin and we are still stuck on earth, waiting for Christ. do you believe Christ lied to us in John 14:15, Javier? today is just as important to keep as the other 9 Commandments are - or did you abandon Them as well? *Happy Sabbath!!!* i pray you give our Creator and Saviour a chance, Sir.
I agree with your comment. Initially, it makes perfect sense but eventually, the All-Suffiency of Christ seems to become hijacked and we no longer trust in His finished work alone. It tends to become Jesus + works. That's my take-away from being involved in this movement. I felt I was losing sight of Jesus so backed away. However, I do find tremendous joy and value in celebrating the Feasts of Lord. They contain a level of spiritual meaning that is simply not to be found in the celebration of Easter and Christmas. These 'Christian' events are so linked with secular celebrations that it's very difficult to stay focused, whereas the biblical Feast Days are solely focused on God.
What you fail to see is THEY think the same of YOUR position. Matthew 5:17-19 Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Some scripture to consider (Eze 36:26-27 KJV) " 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them." (Jer 31:31-33 KJV) "31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people." New covenant , what is written on your Heart ? Tom
The term "fulfill" in Matt 5:17 is defined by Thayer's Greek Lexicon in that passage as "to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment": Did you get that? It doesn't mean to abolish, but to fulfill within us in the way God originally intended for it to be ingrained within us as the prophet Jeremiah wrote was to one day come, and has now passed. How wonderful is that!?
Glad to hear a church that believes in Once Saved Always Saved. I’m S. Baptist in denomination so I heard that a lot and believe it. God bless you faithful pastors and teachers.
Torah is living under Gods righteous instructions...Torah was from the beginning. People get caught up in the 5 books of Moses...which by default is indeed Torah but the difference in understanding David and Paul is to make a distinction between the Book of the Covenant and the Book of the Law...both are righteous. Only the Book of the Law was imposed for transgression until the time of reformation...until seed come...Shiloh...it was a concession to death after the golden calf breech. Exodus 19:5 through Exodus 24:11 is the blood ratified Covenant of Promise confirmed with a covenant confirming meal. Jesus/Yeshua brings us back to that original covenant. That's all we have to do...everything after 24:11 was imposed...It wasn't blood ratified and it wasn't agreed to and there was no covenant confirming meal...its not a part of the Covenant of Promise...see if you make that distinction the Torah Roots movement would understand they are partly right...more so than the Christian. Messianic Judaism however is dabbling in cultish religion not inspired by God. Just to clarify...the Book of the Covenant was INSIDE the ark...the Book of the Law was strapped (like bondage) to the OUTSIDE of the ark as a "witness against them." So it seems we should be walking in that Covenant of Promise which is the Ten Commandments, Sabbath, Feast Days and Dietary Laws...but not the Book of the Law which is after Exodus 24:11...If you can dig deep enough to better understand Pauls teaching becomes so much clearer and less contradicting...Also are understanding of the word Gentile. The gentiles in general are the Lost Sheep of the house of Israel...not necessarily heathens and pagans...though as many of them are welcome...but it is about Israel...Biblical Israel...not those who say they but are not...Rothschilds brought about the State of Israel...not God...when God does it...we all will know...and we all (believers/Israel) will have access to the land...
@InLivingWater So refreshing to read a comment from someone who gets it. I learned from Torah to the Tribes videos. I'll be celebrating Feast of Tabernacles with them in Oregon this year.
I truly do enjoy the Discipleship that you share with us. As a Pastor myself I have a deep desire to preach discipleship, nearly every time I prepare a sermon on Christian Discipleship the Lord moves me to preach Evangelism, to Preach Christ crucified and risen, to preach the Grace of God. We each have a calling, this must be mine. God bless you Pastor!
If anyone of you really want Truth you have to search for it, advice dont go to church, they have some of the truth, but half the truth is still a lie 💯📖 facts are that the Torah is part of the new covenant, look up Jeremiah 31:33 in the Hebrew, book of Hebrews quotes that very scripture, Messiah himself said heaven and earth would pass before anything perished from the Torah Mathew 5:17-20, Messiah kept the Torah perfectly and said follow Me i have laid before you the perfect example, sadly people want to take away from the Father's perfect Torah, dont fall for it, NO ONE has the authority to do so , not even the Son that's why he said I do nothing of myself, of course we don't keep the Torah to earn salvation, it is the Father's instructions and will for our lives, we can only be justified through the Blood of Messiah Yeshua , but do we continue in sin that grace may abound GOD FORBID Romans 6:1-2, do we make void the Torah through faith GOD FORBID we ESTABLISH the Torah Romans 3:31, the whole point of the Torah is to point out sin, if you get rid of it we no longer are aware of these sins the Torah points out, may YAH bless you all 🙏💯♥️☝️📖
@Golden Arm this is a lot of misunderstanding of the scripture, Messiah raised the bar on the Torah didn't replace or get rid of anything, if the Torah is Truly in your heart it should easily be in your actions, if you don't have the will to keep Torah your heart is yet to be circumcised 💯♥️📖
Another thing to consider is that the Law is not just for the Jews...its for all 12 tribes of Israel. You have to make a distinction to understand the Word. The Mystery of Romans 7 for instance...Paul is talking to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...GENTILES! When we become believers we are grafted into Israel...You say you love the Old Testament...remember the two sticks of Ezekiel...God is going to bring the two houses back together again...to become ONE...One fold, one House...One Bride...ISRAEL!
If you were covering Jesus' Words in Matthew I would hope you would have brought up Matthew 23 as well. I really struggle with seeing how Jesus commanded His disciples to obey whatever was read in Moses seat and then in Matthew 28 telling them to teach their disciples in all the nations whatever He commanded them.
Isaiah 42 42:14 "For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant. 42:15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools. 42:16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them. 42:17 But those who trust in idols, who say to images, 'You are our gods,' will be turned back in utter shame.
Mike, I am truely grateful for what you do and your ministry. I'm still new here, I've only found you recently ... but I enjoy detailed explanations. I can tell you put a lot of effort in your preparations. Keep it up! Thanks for this!
@@EnglishwithMrFinn Unfortunately, what you are "learning" from Pastor Mike is FALSE! Please watch the following RUclips video, entitled: *_Video 6: "Throwing the Baby (the Law) Out with the Bathwater!"_*
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
What Paul says in Gal 3:23 is that the sacrificial and ritual ordinances were given to make ppl aware of their tendency for sin. Paul isn't saying God's laws are obsolete at all, but he is saying the sacrificial system and ritual ordinances were made obsolete since Jesus' sacrifice meant there was no need for a temporary reminder anymore.
Galatians 3: 23 says no such thing! "But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed." So what is this "temporary reminder?" What is the "tendency to sin?" Was the purpose of Jesus' death as in Galatians 3: 1 "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" simply to be a "permanent reminder of man's tendency to sin?" You are way out of scripture with that interpretation and comment.
Apart from the fact he is wrong! Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Every time I seen this guy on RUclips for some reason I don’t entertain him! But after giving him a ear his teaching is almost two edged sharp and very sound!
Dr Brown did a short video on this. It's good that you did a more in depth live stream on it. He didn't say anything about the Hebrew roots movement. I love your work.
Daniel's 70 year prophecy gives us insight into what law was done away with, and it was a punishment given because of transgressions, law is eternal, punishments are not, and what was to stop is the day by day performances.
It is tricky to say the least. Any teachings given before Jesus death and resurrection are technically old covenant teachings therefore Jesus teachings could be viewed as non binding.
cyberlizard That isn't true at all. The New Covenant is established on better promises(eternal life), not a different set of rules(Heb 8:6). Isaiah was also inspired by the Spirit to write that the Messiah would exalt the law(Isa 42:21). This alone proves anyone perpetrating a false gospel about Jesus dissolving the law a liar, for the Bible repeatedly teaches God shows absolutely no partiality.
Matthew 5 talks about how he didn’t abolish but confirmed the prophets, & none will be abolished till all be fulfilled. Then talks practically keeping the law & not relaxing any commands 😭 I’m gonna watch all your vids on this but I’d love to discuss these verses with you. I appreciate your heart for the gospel Mike & you give good perspective on the scriptures 🙏❤️
I am curious about something you have said. You are addressing “the Law” in the correct and wholesome way as it is used in this passage (i.e., it is either all of it, or none of it, but is not taken in parts). Either all of it is fulfilled, or none of it is. As Jesus says, not even the smallest part will pass, until all is accomplished. I have never seen any allowance in the Torah for atonement of sin being done once for all by the blood of the Son of God. It is always by the blood of animals. Do you accept? Jesus’s atoning blood for your sin? If so, how is that not a change? I have poured over the Torah many times and atonement for sin in the way Jesus’s blood is applied is nowhere in there, hence the animal sacrifices. It is really just that straightforward. If none of it changed, then you are not allowed to accept his blood for the atonement of your sin and must instead depend on the blood of an animal that has not been sacrificed on behalf of Israel for over 1900 years. If you can see the major issue here on what I would consider the most straightforward part of this passage, then please consider these passages, when considering “all is accomplished” (notes I have made previously that I copied and pasted here). What does “all” mean here? What does “all” mean in these verses? What is the context of accomplished? Luke 18:31 31 And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished. - Does “everything” include Christ returning for his bride as in Revelation? There is always a context. - “all” in Matt 5:18 is the same Greek word we have here for “everything” (g3956. πᾶς pas). Luke 21:22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill ALL that is written. John 19:28 28 After this, Jesus, knowing that ALL was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” John 19:30 30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. Luke 9:30-31 30 And behold, two men were talking with him, Moses and Elijah, 31 who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure, which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. Luke 12:50 50 I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished! Does all in Matt 5:18 mean all? Clearly no.
@@miketisdale7341 Christs sacrifice wasn’t his literal blood on an altar it was his obedience to the Father & laying his life down for the sheep. You’re taking his sacrificial life death & resurrection literal in comparing it to the Torah & the sacrificial system when even the disciples didn’t see it as that. His sacrifice does not go against the Torah & prophets at all, his life, death & justification of sinners is foretold in the Torah & prophets.
@@aaronshipp8766 I am not just speaking literally. But nonetheless, it seems like you are saying that if you had the option (temple, altar, and all else required), you would seek and accept atonement from two avenues for your sin (whether you want to divide them physically and figuratively or not), correct?
@@miketisdale7341 your argument doesn’t make sense because you aren’t clearly addressing Matt. 5:18. Just cause the context of other verses with a Greek word can mean something different when it says all doesn’t mean that is what Matt. 5:18 is saying. All pertains to the specific set of verses that are being pointed to in the Tanakh in the context of the situation. I simply suggest that based on the context of Matt 5:18 being about all the things in the law and prophets coming to pass (not specifically about what may be written about Yeshua only which is what some of the verses u mentioned are about ) which points to all prophecy being fulfilled in what is written in them. It’s fine if you disagree but it’s be better if you directly speak on your understanding of the context of Matt 5:18 n not just point to other verses with different context n try to say “all” is clearly not about all the Torah and prophets.
@@aaronshipp8766 as is the nature of communicating over text :-). My apologies for not pointing to my understanding from the questions I asked and the verses I pointed to. My understanding is that “all“ does not mean everything written of Christ prophetically, old or new covenant. In my view, “all“ is referring to the very purpose that God the Son came and dwelt among us for. As is seen in the use of “all” and “everything” in the verses I provided as examples, “all” rarely means “all” as we tend to think of it as. He accomplished “all” in Matthew 5:18 when He said on the cross “it is finished” and accomplished the purpose He came for (just has He Himself states numerous times). This view allows me to Biblically accept and receive His atonement for sin by my faith in His accomplished work and not from animal sacrifices. There is no provision in Torah for atonement for sin apart from animal sacrifice (if you assume not a jot has changed), and clearly Jesus’s sacrifice does this very thing once and for all (assuming we are comparing old and new covenants and contrasting Jesus’s atonement with that of the provision of animal sacrifice, which is the very thing the writer of Hebrews does). Of course Jesus is foretold of in the Torah, but that does not mean you are allowed to accept atonement for sin in any other way than as is clearly prescribed in Torah (animal sacrifice) over and over and over. It is disingenuous to sweep away this glaring point of a change regarding atonement of sin by simply saying that Jesus is foretold of in the Torah and prophets. I am not saying that what Christ accomplished goes against the Torah. I am saying that it replaces how sin was a toned for, which is a huge change and passing away. This is why I asked you that if you had a temple, a consecrated altar, and a priesthood if you would seek atonement for your sin BOTH in the sacrifice of an animal as well as in Christ’s once for all atoning sacrifice. This is ultimately what I am hoping to understand from you as I do not see how it can be any other way if you assert that nothing has changed in the commands we are to follow. Please let me know and thank you.
Mike, I really appreciate the depth and clarity you bring to your explanations. There are very few people I truly enjoy listening to when it comes to discussions about religion, but you do an exceptional job. Even though we may not align on every belief, you have a way of helping me understand your perspective. And for topics like this, where we do agree, your insights are incredibly uplifting and help strengthen my own convictions. Thank you for the important work you do-it's truly impactful.
I’m just grateful someone is serving the lord and praying at this point in the game. I’m getting where I can care less about what flavor believer they are this world is wicked
Lord means Ba'al in Hebrew, the church getting you to worship Ba'al. Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha. The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha. The Christian follows the teaching of the church. That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong! The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church. What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah. 1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps, And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says! Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible. Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES! Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end. He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)! Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips. Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE! Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath, There is NO shadow of change in Him! Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19) Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you. AND He said the ALL Scripture applies: 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness, 2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work. So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is…. Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name? How did they change the Sabbath? How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts? How did unclean food suddenly become clean? How did circumcision disappear? Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah): Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would ….. Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
17:25 Interesting that you bring that up Mike, that sojourners were not required to keep the whole law. in a sense, you're absolutely right. What you might have not noticed, however, is the particular laws assigned to the sojourners in the Torah: Sexual immorality, Idolatry, things offered to idols, from consuming animals that die of themselves, from consuming blood, the sabbath, and also to hear the law on the year of release so they could learn it and do it. Hmmm, where have I heard those things mentioned before? *snap* that's right! Acts 15:20-21! So that must mean that James didn't just pull those commandments out of the air and regarded the gentile converts as sojourners! Furthermore, the Septuagint reads in Exodus 12:48 and 49 a little differently than the masoretic, calling them "Converts" not sojourners. What this tells us is that at the time of the translation of the Torah into Greek, the translators saw sojourners as converts. What were(are) the gentiles coming into the faith then? Converts. Is it any wonder then that James applied the Laws initially applied to converts to the gentile converts? No. What is curious then is why the other component of conversion laid out in Exodus 12:48 is the very issue being argued in Acts 15 and the book of Galatians. According to the plain reading of the text, circumcision was necessary to complete the conversion, in addition to keeping passover. It's also curious how Jesus is described as our passover lamb? Perhaps there's a good reason why placing your faith in Jesus, just as the mixed multitude of others in ADDITION to the descendants of Jacob placed their faith in God and kept the first Passover. I wonder if Paul and Barnabas were arguing for the Holy Spirit being the evidence of the circumcision made without hands prophesied in Deuteronomy 30:6??? When we look at the records left by our spiritual forefathers like the Gospels and Acts, or the guidance provided by the epistles, we have to think about THEIR context. Their context was a deeper and greater knowledge and understanding of the Torah, Writings, and the Prophets than you, me, or ten others like us combined because they learned directly at the feet of the Author of all of it for three years. Paul had tremendous scholastic accolades as well. We also have to understand that every word, sentence, chapter, and book was chosen carefully when the New Testament was being first written over decades, and then put together. It's clear that it is supplemental to the Torah, Writings, and the Prophets and was never meant to be a stand alone for the formation of doctrine. Yet I've heard you differentiate over and over again between us and the Israelites to whom the scriptures were given and placing the emphasis for us in the New Testament alone. I don't fault you for not looking at things this way. After a manner, denominational and otherwise mainstream "orthodoxy" precludes you from ever even asking these questions. Why? Because the "orthodoxy" already has it all figured out and it is at least packaged convincingly, so therefore there's no need to pursue any further inquiry into the matter.
Yes, the Law was established at creation and orally passed down through the generations until it was written by Moses at Mount Sinai. Everyone. starting from Adam and Eve, obeyed it.
@@rachelanne2968 so Adam and Eve observed the Feast of Tabernacles, for example? So they lived in booths for seven days so “that your generations may know that I made the people of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt”? I wonder if they were confused by any of that. Luckily we do not have to speculate like this but can simply trust the word of God! Deuteronomy 5:3 3 Not with our fathers did the LORD make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today.
@@miketisdale7341 The Torah and the Covenant are two separate things : if they were the same thing, why did Noah ( Genesis 7:2-3, 8-9 and 8:20 ) , Lot ( Genesis 19:3 ) and Abraham ( 26:4-5 ) obeyed the Torah centuries before the exodus ? The Torah was passed down orally from Adam and Eve to their descendants until it was given to Moses in its written form at Mount Sinai. Hope it helps =)
@@rachelanne2968 Maybe a question or two further might help me understand more fully the distinction you are making. 1) Can you elaborate on how you define Torah. The ten commandments, the 613 given to Israel, etc? 2) As a continuation and further clarification of #1, you said the Law was established at creation and passed down orally. Was the Feast of Tabernacles a part of what Adam and Eve had and passed down orally? 3) You said that Noah, Lot, and Abraham kept Torah. I will ask more of this given your clarifications from #1&2 if you do not mind. Thank you in advance!
It does not say "imposed until the time of reformation" 22:53 It says "a covering until the time of reformation" But we all agree that Messiah is now the covering, no one is arguing that Torah is our covering, so that didn't really address anything. Besides, all of that is in a context of God's New Covenant with Judah and Israel, but Mike said we are not to pretend that we are Israel.
I like them too I don’t agree with all they teach but I can’ finger point at any religion I don’t think any of us have it right. I think when we get to heaven the 12 apostles may sit us all down our first yr there and correct all our doctrine . Like heavens bible school. Maybe on the rare event we get something right they’ll hand us gold stars like we’re in kindergarten.
Easy proof God sometimes changes laws for us humans to follow depending on where in time we are: Genesis 9 and its first few verses describe God allowing Noah to begin to eat animals. This was not allowed prior to the flood. God doesn't change, but we are not the ones to interpret what he deems clean and unclean, as mentioned in Peter. If the time comes and he says stop, then we should stop, but according to the Scriptures all animals were made clean to eat in this church age. It's like a speed limit law. The law may say "follow the speed limit" but what that speed limit is may change depending on the need in a certain area, like a school or on a highway. The law stays the same but the application changes as you move around. God doesn't change, he sometimes just has laws for a certain time and certain people and He changes those rules as needed. Maybe there's a spiritual ramification of the unclean animals during the days of Isreal that was made right during the resurrection. Who are we to know or question God on his reasons?
Mike, please invite Lex Meyer, Rob Skiba or Zack Bauer on your channel or go onto their channels to have a brotherly and intelligent discussion so we as viewers and believers who are seeing both sides can have a better understanding!
On abolish vs fulfill. Say you've been given an assignment that you have to finish before you're allowed to turn it in. Maybe there's a certain number of hours of research you have to do, or a certain number of pages you have to write before the professor will accept it. Even if you do the required hours of research and write the required number of pages, you may do a poor job, but I'm not dealing with that, I'm dealing with meeting the requirements necessary to even submit the assignment. Doing those necessary requirements is a fulfillment. Now let's say that before you submit the assignment, the professor abolishes it. In that instance, you wouldn't submit your work, and any work you've done would be meaningless. In both cases, fulfilling and abolishing, you no longer have anything to do. Now, if Jesus fulfills the law, it's like He completed all the requirements for the augment and turned it on on your behalf. The cool thing about that is He turns in a perfectly fine assignment for you, instead of the certain you would have done which would have gotten an F. If the law were abolished, then we wouldn't even be able to get an F on the assignment. So, of course Jesus didn't abolish the law, that would be counterproductive to Him reconciling is to Him. He did fulfill the requirements of the law for us and He did it perfectly. But either through fulfillment or abolishment, the law isn't something we have to worry with. Fortunately, it's been fulfilled. Now, I would also point out that at the time of Jesus giving the Sermon on the Mount, the law hands yet been fulfilled, that only happened after He was crucified. So, even looking at just that prob of scripture, there were arguments one can make against the Hebrew Roots movement.
2Timothy, (I think, if I remember correctly), states that the law is NOT for the righteous, we know the righteous ARE those who are in Christ, but the law is for the unrighteous, to bring them to Christ.
remnant warrior Galatians 3:24-26 King James Version (KJV) 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
"But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that my efforts for you may have been in vain." Galatians 4:9-11. "When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses, having canceled the debt ascribed to us in the decrees that stood against us. He took it away, nailing it to the cross!" Colossians 2:13-14. "In speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." Hebrews 8:13. "For the promise that Abraham would be heir of the world was not made to him and his descendants through the Law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith." Romans 5:13.
Can I ask you to show me a verse in Genesis that shows God commanding Sabbath Keeping prior to Moses, or a verse that shows that anyone prior to Moses kept the Sabbath??
@@smashleyscott8272 Doesn't look like Rean is going to answer, so here is one answer. Actually it was day 7, Genesis 2:2-3. I believe the next time it is mentioned, is in Exodus 20:10. Whether anyone prior to Moses except G-d kept it, is not written. It also depends on how one interprets sanctify-make holy is one interpretation.
@@smashleyscott8272 Ex 16 mentions the sabbath before it was given at mount Sinai. All 10 commandments where spoke of before mount Sinai, and Noah knew what animals where clean and unclean, Cain and Abel knew how and what to sacrifice. How can that be?
Mike. I love your work on the NAR and Calvinism. I appreciate a non-cessationist/non-Calvinist critique of the NAR. I have to say I disagree with you on this one. I would love to see you bring on David Wilber for a discussion sometime. I think you would find him to be a very gracious and fair minded advocate of the Torah-observant movement.
I think you are missing a very key point to Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. “Till heaven and earth pass away”, where do we see these words spoken again? Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. “ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.” Therefore the law is still relevant today and is not fulfilled until Christs judgement. People need to test everything against the scriptures and not because man tells them what to think and believe.
I read this verse today, and it is interesting how Peter phrases it-- "No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” He says the Jewish believers in Messiah are saved just as the Gentile believers are-- "by the grace of our Lord Jesus." This means that Torah doesn't save Jewish believers either. This means that THEY TOO are freed from and dead to the Law and are made alive to Christ.
I have a question. I have been listening to some Hebrew Roots teachings, were we not grafted onto the tree that is Israel? so can we not view the Law as a way to live after we have been saved? The Law was given to Israel AFTER they were saved from their bondage, not as a means of their salvation but as a guideline for living righteously
Lori Bordessa the thing that gets me with 7th day Adventism is the whole Ellen G White thing and the doctrine of sinless perfection. I almost got into it but then I decided otherwise
Becky Sampson exactly. Ellen G White was a false prophet who butchered the gospel of Jesus Christ and tried to shove people back under an old covenant that was never intended for them but for Israel. And Saturday sabbath keeping is their pet OC law and the dividing line between them (“the Remnant” as they believe themselves to be) and the rest of the world. It’s all about the sabbath. Google SDA and “The National Sunday Law”. It’s hard for them to give up this SDA imperative, since even if they wanted to if they go to a “Sunday church”, they’re afraid they’re going to get the Mark of the Beast because that’s what they’ve been taught. There’s more.... I’ve gone in circles with many on FB and most can rarely tell me what the gospel is. 😢 Their eschatology is focused on Saturday as Sabbath. And thus their gospel.
Lori Bordessa I have noticed this as well. It’s crazy how this Hebrew roots movement has infiltrated many denominations. I know seventh day Adventist was long before the HRM but still! The issue I see is that if your core doctrine is incorrect, you may have a gospel that cannot save you. If you believe that you must observe the law to enter heaven, you believe in a works based salvation which is inherently incorrect. It’s really sad to see people refuse to challenge their viewpoint and seek the truth. I definitely understand what you’re saying and agree with you.
Becky Sampson amen. The Lord through Paul’s letter to the Galatians was very clear on this- and Galatians is one of those books SDAs and HRM need to read. We need to pray for those we know in it. The Holy Spirit has to open their eyes to the truth. “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9 ESV The wording is strong- “accursed”. And later with the same thought in mind Paul says he wishes they would emasculate themselves. This false gospel stuff is serious. It’s mislead many.
Lori Bordessa yeah no kidding. I’m in an online Christian community where this is heavily debated! It’s really weird how people come to this conclusion...if they would put down their preconceived notions they’d see!
If you truly want to have a better understanding of what these guys are talking about, this is one of the best teachings I can think of that has a privides a great background of their thinking, prior to getting into the law. In order to under stand their view God's law and grace you need to understand who you are in the bible. Who Jesus came for? More about the old testiment. And in turn who will have a better understanding of Jesus's teachings and Paul's writings. Also everyone is commenting how Jesus's law is greater then the "Law of Moses" but you have to remember that the Law of Moses is really the Law of GOD. In the bible it says that God's Law is PERFECT in the old testament and to be used for doctrine and reproof in the New testament. Because Jesus is the Law. He is the word made flesh. Just saying you can't contradict the bible. Love you all hope you actually watch this video and the others I've commented with and comment back :) Jim Staley- Identity Crisis ruclips.net/video/VN-1jUc963g/видео.html
I started to watch this video then i googled Jim Staley and found out he was caught up in stealing money from elderly investors in his church. It is really hard to listen to a man that was so manipulated by the forces of evil. I hope this comes in peace, guard your heart.
Mike, you are being too gentle toward this movement. These "teachers" are unsettling poor old grandmas and other vulnerable Christians and the Scripture has this to say about them: "I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves." (Gal. 5:12) The epistle to the Galatians deals with exactly this issue: the issue of Judaizers.
It also says let them be accursed and that's just for wanting circumcision They full and well understand what they're doing they hate Jesus Look at the books of comments they write what do they refuse to write JESUS CHRIST GOD AND HOLY SPIRIT Its clear who they serve And the ones that are blinded among them that may be saved one day they need to repent I hit up Hebrew roots rapture and other false doctrine videos daily to let anyone in there know if they have eyes to see they'll see my comment I pray But as a whole they arent of us we arent to have fellowship or bid them Godspeed They need to repent And if we were stern they would get violent and we know it they hate Christ It's clear as day and it's a salvation issue It's what paul spoke about the judaizers of the faith Absolutely apostate and abhorrent
The words to eternal life are Jesus's commands and teachings. Some may say we don’t have to keep the Sabbath day, feast days or the dietary laws because they were part of the Law of Moses, but the Law of Moses consisted of the law of animal sacrifices, not the Ten Commandments which were given to Moses directly from God or the feast days and dietary laws. If we believe that in order to be saved we must obey Jesus, we can find before Jesus came to Earth and dwelt with man, he was Melchisedec King of Salem who Abraham honored with a tenth of his possessions, the great I AM who appeared to Moses, and Jehovah Almighty who gave Moses the Ten Commandments and led the children of Israel out of Egypt. Hebrews 7:1-3 KJV For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; [2] To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; [3] Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. These first few verses in Hebrews 7 show that Melchisedec met Abraham back in Genesis 14:18-20 KJV: “18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all,” and later was made like unto the Son of God. We know that Melchisedec is without father, mother, descent, having neither beginning of days or end of life and is an immortal priest. This person cannot be the Father because Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and the only one who has seen the Father. No man including Moses who God showed his backside to has seen the Father. Moses saw the back of Jehovah, who is Jesus. John 1:17-18 “[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. [18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." No man who has ever lived on Earth, but Jesus, has immortality (1 Timothy 6:13-16 KJV). Only Jesus, the Son of God, fits the description of Melchisedec. The second half of Hebrews 7 further elaborates how Jesus as the high priest of the order of Melchisedec, came to change and replace the old Levitical priesthood. The only change in the old and new covenant was the mediators. The mediator in the old covenant under the Levitical priesthood was Moses, the new mediator under the new covenant is Jesus. The Levitical priests oversaw the administration of the animal sacrifices for sin. Because the Messiah had not come, the Israelites needed a sin sacrifice so God would not kill them. The wages of sin is death, so the lambs, goats, bulls, turtledoves, ect. died in their place. This law was carnal and could never give anyone eternal life. Moses prophesied God will raise another prophet like him and they will listen to Him (Deuteronomy 18:15-19). Jesus is this prophet. At his resurrection and ascension to Heaven, he became our new mediator for the new covenant under Melchisedec which replaced the old covenant’s mediator under the Levitical priests. Hebrews 7:23-28 “[23] And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: [24] But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. [25] Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. [26] For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; [27] Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. [28] For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.” Hebrews 10:1-13 KJV [1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. [3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: [6] In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. [7] Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. [8] Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; [9] Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. [10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. [11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:[12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God; [13] From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. John 8:52-58 KJV [52]Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. [53] Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? [54] Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: [55] Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. [56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it and was glad. [57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Exodus 3:13-15 KJV And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? [14] And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. [15] And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. These two scriptures, John 8:52-58 and Exodus 3:13-15, establish that Jesus is the great I AM. Isaiah 12:2-3 establishes the fact that Jesus is Jehovah, our Messiah. Through believing in him and keeping his commandments, can we receive eternal salvation. Isaiah 12:2-3 KJV Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. [3] Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. If you believe we must keep Jesus’s commands, then what Jesus (who is Jehovah, Melchisedec, the great I AM) commanded the children of Israel to do which was to keep his Sabbath, his feast days, and dietary laws we must do also. The Gentiles are grafted into holy olive tree which represents Jesus Christ alongside the natural branches which represent Israel. These laws are spiritual (not carnal like the law of animal sacrifice), and last forever (Psalm 111:7-8). The laws of God come from the Father and were given to his Son Jesus to preach to the world for eternal life. John 17:5-8 KJV “[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. [6] I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. [7] Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. [8] For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.” When we obey Jesus, we are obeying the Father. The commands and teachings of Jesus all come from the Father. The only change in the covenant was the mediators. The mediator in the old covenant under the Levitical priesthood was Moses, the new mediator under the new covenant is Jesus. Since Jesus came in the volume of the book, what he commanded given to him by the Father in the old testament has not changed (John 6:30-47 KJV).
Brothers and sisters , please read the message left by Jubilee Trumpet ; they are powerful words that comes not from Jubilee Trumpet , but the instructions left to us by the God of Israel . If we refuse to hear ( believe by taking action as Abraham did , that's faith ) the message , the words will judge you in the last day ( John 12:44-50 and Revelation 20:11-15 ) . Jesus Christ himself said this : (John 5:39-43 Search the scriptures ; for in them ye think ye have eternal life : and they are they which testify of me . And ye will not come to me , that ye might have life . I receive not honour from men . But I know you , that ye have not the love of God in you . I am come in my Father's name , and ye receive me not : if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive ) . Jesus Christ is the Word of God ( Revelation 19;13 ) , and from the beginning of the creation of man , he has given us the instructions of the Father , for eternal life : He is the tree of life , the bread of life , the water of life ; for all who will be Sons of the Father at the conclusion of the creation ( Revelation 21 ) . Jesus Christ came not in his own name ( Jehovah ) , but in the name of his Father ( Jesus ) ; that is why it states in Philippians 2:9-10 ( Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him , and given him a name which is above every name : That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow , of things in heaven , and things in earth , and things under the earth ; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD , to the glory of God the Father ) . Before Jesus ascended back to the Father , he told the disciples to teach all nations , baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son , and of the Holy Ghost ; but Peter made this statement in Acts 2:38 ; " Then Peter said unto them , Repent , and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost " . To baptize in the name of the Father , Son , and Holy Ghost is a title ; but in the name of Jesus identify the title . The Holy Ghost is the Comforter ; which the Father will send in Jesus Name ( John 14:26 But the Comforter , which is the Holy Ghost , whom the Father will send in my name , he shall teach you all things , and bring all things to your remembrance , whatsoever I have said unto you ) . Jehovah comes in name of the Father , and the Holy Ghost comes in the name of Jesus . Think about it ; do you think that the name of Jesus is above the Father ( John 10:29 My father , which gave them me , is greater than all ; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand ) ; also ( 1st Corinthians 15:24-28 Then cometh the end , when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God , even the Father ; when he shall put down all rule and all authority and power . For he must reign , till he hath put all enemies under his feet . The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death . For he hath put all things under his feet . But when he saith all things are put under him , it is manifest that he is excepted , which did put all things under him . And when all things shall be subdued unto him , then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him , that God may be all in all ) . A Godhead of two from everlasting to everlastng . The Holy Ghost/Spirit are the Angel/s , that stand in the presence of God , and deliver his word , the Holy Spirit ( John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth ; the flesh profiteth nothing : the words that I speak unto you , they are spirit , and they are life ) . In 1st John 5:7 , it stares : " For there are three that bear record in heaven , the Father , the Word , and the Holy Ghost : and these three are one " ; and in Revelation 1:1 , it identify who the three are ( Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ , which God gave unto him , to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass ; and he sent and signified it by his Angel unto his servant John ) . The three that bear record in heaven are : 1. God The Father , 2. The Word - Jesus Christ , 3. The Holy Ghost - The Angel/s ; who are the ministering spirits sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation ( Hebrews 1:14 ) . Shalom !
Pastor Mike: In English, Hebrew, and Greek, it’s impossible to “new” something. New is only used as an adjective. If you COULD “new” something, in English the proper word would be “create”. Same in Hebrew…to “new” something is “b’riyah” (H1278), create. Thus, if the intent of Jer 31:31 was to bring forth a brand, spanking new, never before seen, covenant, the passage SHOULD have used the word “b’riyah”. Instead, Jer 31:31 uses the term “chadashah” (H2319)…the root word (verb) chadash plus the feminine ending to form the adjective that agrees with brit (covenant). That is, the Hebrew adjective, chadash (H2319), comes from the verb, chadash H2318, and is distinguish from the verb by the ending of agreement with the noun it modifies. The verb H2318 is defined as “to be new”, but in usage, is always renew, rebuild, restore, refresh, etc. A good example of this idea is the “new moon”. In Hebrew, the term is “chodesh” (H2320)…also derived from H2318, “to be new”. But, as we all know, the moon isn’t “created new” each month…it’s just seen again. In Greek, with respect to covenants, it’s the same story. If the intent was a brand spanking new, never before seen, covenant, the term should have been “neos” (G3501). Instead, in the vast majority of cases, the word used is “kainos” (G2537)…new with respect to freshness…that is “refreshed”. Thus, in sum, the idea is that it’s NOT a totally new covenant. How could it be totally new if not one “jot” or “tittle” changed (Mt 5:17,18)? Additionally, Messiah Yeshua goes on to state: 19 Whosoever therefore SHALL BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mt 5:19) So, where did Messiah Yeshua change subjects here? He’s still addressing the same jot and tittle subject. Obviously, there are consequences for NOT pursuing the Torah…the most severe consequence I already addressed in the discussion of Mt 7:21-23. Shalom
Does that mean he wrote the 7th day Sabbath along with the rest like he did before ? The one ,Moses ,isreal ,all apostle s ,all city came together as one in book of a acts ,Paul and our savior king Jesus Christ kept ?
the disciple all that was done in Moses day was a foreshadow of a better covenant, a foreshadow of what's to come, The Messiah, Jesus Christ, He is our salvation and our Sabbath.
@@truthprevails1260 that theology sounds good ,but when you take the time yourself to read the Sabbath and about the Sabbath from the beginning of the Bible to the end of the Bible you will see it was never changed you also you also see Jesus Christ talking about it when he's referring to the end days pacifically calling it a Sabbath day,some things our black and. White do the homework yourself ,we have been fed a lot of lies its time to draw closer to our Lord .
the disciple Jesus, when talking about the ends days, in that particular passage, was referring to Judea, that was directly to the Jews in Judea, pray that your flight not be in the winter or on the Sabbath because He knew how they reacted to Him healing in the Sabbath and furthermore, forgiving sins on the Sabbath, He KNEW that even until the last day they would be the same, He NEVER mentioned that about the gentiles, however He is everyone's Sabbath, which means rest, in Him find your rest, and anything that would make one day unholy, will make any day unholy, and we are to NEVER to grieve the SPIRIT, treating everyday as the Sabbath, finding our rest in Jesus's righteousness daily. I have grieved over this, prayed and studied, and this is where I have been led, because He specifically said that those in Judea, flee to the mountains, to not even return for your coat, flee and pray that your flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath, He KNEW they would still be depending on the law and works for salvation. All the way until the very end. The gentiles are supposed to be the light to the Jews now, and God's power MUST be seen in our lives, enough to bring the Jews to jealousy. However, not ALL who say they are Jews, are truly Jews. Many get their doctrine directly from Babylon, buy there us a remnant there who know and see their deception. ALL we depend on relies on Jesus alone. Which produces good fruit by default. GRIEVING not the SPIRIT.
the disciple I love you brother and the gospel is the number one, most important thing to get right. That Jesus is God, from the beginning, manifest in flesh, suffering His blood for payment of ALL sin, and HE indeed raised Himself from death on the third day and He FOREVER lives in Glory, that whosoever trusts and believes this, and puts their faith for salvation in His righteousness alone, then indeed you are my brethren.
Was the law written for those who would only listen to “wordy laws and rituals” rather than believing that doing what is right and talking and following God would change their hearts to align them to love him and follow him and their thoughts, desires and actions would change to follow the 10 commandments naturally. I have only just read the Ten Commandments but since converting to Christianity last year from a new age back ground, everything brings me to Jesus and I now see and hear and know in very obvious ways (that I was blind to before) what is moral and what is immoral and I only want to do what is moral and right.
You said if we did a study of covenant and law of Moses they sound like the same and sometimes overlap. Exodus 34:28 tells me they are exactly the same. The Ten Commandments is the Covenant. I think where they may differ is in the case laws and the dietary laws. The dietary laws seem to come from nowhere actually - meaning there was no precedent for them. BTW. You doing a great job. I did a study on the Sabbath, then Law, then Covenant during lockdown. I appreciate the way you are handling the question, but understanding Covenant is probably the key to responding to these folk. Sorry if you have updated this study. It came across my recommended feed, so going through this series at the moment.
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Isreal; After those days, saith YAH, I will put my Torah in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim and they shall be my people. 🗡📖💯♥️☝️
While i was reading the book of acts the other day, Paul was running to a town to preach. He had his companion circumcised because they were preaching to the Jews. It seemed more like a cultural thing at that point and not an expectation to follow the Law by God. So I'm leaning, no the Jews are not required to keep the Law.
Please watch this video in entirety. Specifically about circumcision start at 2:28 Jim Staley- identity crisis ruclips.net/video/VN-1jUc963g/видео.html
Christ fulfilled the law without sin to show men that they can to if their heart is into it. Read what Paul says about it. All four gospels speaks of this. Paul says that they rejected christ so he went to the gentiles to provoke Jews into jealousy. It's always been by faith and grace from the beginning of Genesis to Revelation. The law let's us know not what to do that sins against God. Remember christ is God manifested in the flesh and he will not speak against himself
The Law of Moses was given to accomplish an end (a fulfillment), not to be the end in itself. It brings the son's of the law to the place of desperation where they are given the choice to receive or reject the Son of God, the righteous son, as their righteousness, no longer depending upon their own self-righteous, paltry and imperfect law-keeping. The Law accomplishes its purpose in that moment when it strips us of our self-reliance, thus preparing us with the humility and contrition to trust in God alone for our justification and His righteousness so that we come into His presence for fellowship which was our Father's planned end for us from the very beginning. Some prefer the journey over the destination.
Next Tuesday I plan to answer the question of what the book of Acts teaches about Gentile believers and obedience to the Law of Moses.
Here’s the first video on the Hebrew Roots movement. ruclips.net/video/QR7xTYhXEbo/видео.html
Mike Winger keep standing strong brother because here comes everybody out of the woodworks trying to get us to follow the old laws that were meant for a bunch of disobedient Jews. Despite all their miracles (ie: a supernatural rescue from Egypt, pillar of cloud by day and pillar of fire by night, Manna falling from the sky daily, etc.), they still bust out the ole golden calf the second Moses steps away for a minute. God kept having to lay down law after law to get their disobedient butts in line. Tell me why now must I accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior PLUS do all the stuff the old Jews were doing. The very nature of telling me that I have to do BOTH takes away from the ultimate purpose of the Lamb who was slain!!! Satan is definitively behind this Hebrew Roots movement because only Satan would try to use the Bible to make claim that Jesus wasn’t enough.
Let us remember what Jesus told the priest and elders who followed the old Jewish law to the T. He said, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.” Mic drop.
Please answer these question by the word of the God of Israel : 1. What was the covenant at Mount Sinai ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ? 2. Who is the covenant between at Mount Sinai ( God the Father and the children of Israel ) ? 3. Who was the mediator of the covenant at Mount Sinai ( Moses ) , and who is the mediator of the covenant now ( Jesus Christ ) ? 4. Did the Father accept the Strangers into this covenant ( Exodus 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn , and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you ; Isaiah 56:6-7 Also the sons of the stranger , that join themselves to the LORD , to serve him , and to love the name of the LORD , to be his servants , every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it , and taketh hold of my covenant ; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain , and make them joyful in my house of prayer : their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar ; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people ; Ephesians 2:11-22 ) ? 5. What is the function of the mediator ( Moses was the husband/protection/covering for the children of Israel when they break the laws of God ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ; and he did it through the Leviticus priesthood - the law of Moses or the law of animal sacrifice for sin - circumcision made by hands - the priests - the law of works ) : ( Jesus Christ is now the husband/protection/covering for the children of Israel when they break the laws of God ( ten commandments , statutes and judgments ) ; and this is by grace ( free gift - his blood ) through faith ( Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God . You must serve this mediator by faith , repent of your sins by starting to keep the word of God - this is through the priesthood of faith - Melchisedec - the law of faith ) . The Father made the covenant , the mediators intercede between the two parties in the covenant . 6. Does the Father change ( Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD , I change not ; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed ) ? 7. Was the Strangers/Gentiles mention in the promise of God ( Genesis 12:1-3 , Genesis 13:16 , Genesis 15:4-6 , Genesis 17:10-14 , Genesis 22:15-18 , Exodus 20:8-11 , Jeremiah 12:14-17 , Isaiah 2:1-4 , Micah 4:1-3 , Zechariah 2:1-13 , Romans 2:11-15 , 1st Corinthians 9:19-21, Revelation 14:12 ) ? The church is the covenant between the God of Israel and the children of Israel . The God of Israel is no respecter of persons , but he that feareth God and worketh righteousness , he accepts , but only the children of Israel has made a covenant with God ( Romans 2: 12-15 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law : and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law ; ( For not the hearers of the law are just before God , but the doers of the law shall be justified . For when the Gentiles which have not the law , do by nature the things contained in the law , these having not the law are a law unto themselves : which shew the work of the law written in their conscience also bearing witness , and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another ) . People fail to understand that all of the God of Israel commandments are laws , not just the ten commandments ; when God told Adam not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , that was a law . The ten commandments , statutes and judgments to define the ten commandments given to the children of Israel at Mount Sinai are the laws of God , not Moses . The law of Moses was the law of animal sacrifice and oblations for sin ( remember he is the husband/protection for the people ) ; the law of works ( Romans 3:27 ) . The law of Jesus Christ is the grace ( free gift - his blood ) through faith ( believing , by starting to keep the word of God ) - the law of faith ( Roman 3:28 ) . In Galatians 3:19 , when Paul said the law was added because of transgressions , we must understand what is transgressions ( 1st John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law : for sin is the transgression of the law ) ; so are you saying that the law of God was added because they were breaking the laws of God ; that's an error . The correct statement is : the law of animal sacrifice was added , because they were breaking the laws of God . We are to keep the commandments of the Father , through the faith of the Son ( Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints : here are they that keep the commandments of God , and the faith of Jesus ) . All laws come from the God of Israel , and they are holy and righteous ( He is a righteous/holy God ) ; His covenants are laws , and they are eternal ; He identify what his laws pertains to , all has a purpose . When the covenant people ( children of Israel ) begin to violate the laws given to them ( remember the wages of sin is death ) ; through their husband/protector/mediator Moses , he gave them the sin sacrifice of the flesh ( circumcision made by hands , or the law of animal sacrifice , or the law of Moses ) ; to kept God from killing their body ; not for the forgiveness of the heart/mind/conscience/spirit ; because to serve and obey God , you must live by faith ( repent of your sins with a sorrowful heart , and start believing God by obedience ) . The law of Christ is the sin sacrifice of faith ; because Jesus obeyed the Father's laws completely ( no sins , no death ) ; so he died not for himself , but for all who live by faith through their new husband of faith ( Christ ) ; not by their old husband of works ( Moses ) . The laws of the Father never changed ; Moses gave the children of Israel , the laws of God on tables of stone , and written in ink in the book of the covenant , but the people did not believe ( obedience by obeying his laws ) : While Jesus Christ put the laws of God in our hearts/mind/conscience/spirit ; because you cannot come under this mediator blood , until you start believing his word that he received from the Father ( Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , " The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee , of thy brethren , like unto me ; unto him ye shall hearken ; According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly , saying , Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God , neither let me see this great fire anymore , that I die not . And the LORD said unto me , They have well spoken that which they have spoken . I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren , like unto thee , and I will put my words in his mouth ; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him . And it shall come to pass , that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name , I will require it of him " ) . In Matthew 5:17-19 , Jesus said that he came not to destroy the law or the Prophets , but he came to fulfill the law and the Prophets . He also stated that till heaven and earth pass away , one jot or one tittle of the law will in do wise pass frm the law , until all is fulfilled . Is all fulfilled of the law ? NO ! ( Isaiah 66:15-17 , " For , behold , the LORD will come with fire , and with his chariots like a whirlwind , to render his anger with fury , and his rebuke with flames of fire . For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh : and the slain of the LORD shall be many . They that sanctify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst , eating swine's flesh , and the abomination , and the mouse , shall be consumed together , saith the LORD " ) . Heaven and earth is still here , and all has not been fulfilled ; so the law remains the same . Jesus later explained the statement he made in Matthew 5:17-19 , in Luke 24:44-45 , after his resurrection ( Luke 24:44-45 , " And he said unto them , These are the words which I spake unto you , while I was yet with you , that all things must be fulfilled , which were written in the law of Moses , and in the Prophets , and in the Psalms , concerning me . Then opened he their understanding , that they might understand the scriptures " ) . Finally , Jesus Christ came in the flesh for two major reasons : 1. To be an atonement for our sins , and 2. Completion of the words of the Father , to get eternal life . Question , Did Adam have eternal life in the garden of Eden , or was he learning how to get it from the tree of life ? Answer , he was learning before he ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ; so why are we not required to keep the laws of God now ? Jesus Christ has redeemed or justified us back to the time of Adam , before he transgressed the laws of God . We have never heard the Father's voice , or seen his shape at any time ; so the same one that was instructing Adam , is the same one that came in the flesh . When Adam violated his instruction , or the Father's commandments , or law , he fell into sin ; likewise , when we disobey the Father's commandments that Jesus gives us , we fall into sin ( 1st John 2::1-7 ) . Jesus said it best : Matthew 24:13 , " But he that shall endure unto the end , the same shall be saved " ; until your death or the return of the Messiah . Shalom !
Gentiles were never obligated to keep all of the Laws given at Sinai. They were obligated to keep 6 Laws before the flood, with a new category (no animal cruelty) being given to Noah in Gen 9. The Noahide Covenant. These 7 categories of Law are for every human being. The first is No Idolatry.
Yet you guys break the very first Law.
The Creator refers to his covenant with Noah as “an everlasting covenant” which means it is eternal. It has no end. Was G-d lying?
It became ok to worship a man as G-d, or his son, just like the Greek pagans (and many other wiped out civilizations) in your “new covenant”? No thanks. And I hope you will start reading he Bible in page 1 like every other book in the world.
You might as well believe in Zeus and his kids with human mothers.
God made other covenants but none of them ever said it was ok to break the original Noahide Covenant. And idolatry is the thing that the Creator hates the most.
Not to mention jc doesn’t fit the criteria of the Messiah. Look at the list! That’s why they made up the concept of a second coming, which has no biblical basis.
Minute Ministry Gentiles were never expected to keep the Laws given at Sinai.
They are bound by the 6 Laws given before the flood and the one about animal cruelty given to Noah after the flood. 7 Laws total which make up the “everlasting/eternal covenant” The Creator made with Noah and every human being on Earth to this day.
No idol worship. No blasphemy. No sexual immorality, no theft, no murder, no animal abuse, create courts of justice.
Notice how none of the covenants made later in the Bible say it’s ok to break any of those laws. And they still stand today.
Except the Christians and their new Greek pagan covenant which says idol worship is ok now. Apparently they think the creator of the u inverse was lying when he said it was is “an eternal covenant”.
Lea Paton thank you this information. I didn’t realize that the Hebrew Roots movement was against the worship of Jesus because He is not God the Father. Interesting. I’m learning all sorts of stuff.
However, I will have to kindly disagree because I do believe that we are supposed to worship the Son of God as I stated in another comment string to you.
Hello! I cannot tell you how much this video series is helping me. My parents have started transitioning our family into HRM doctrines and I have been distressed and confused. I prayed this morning for clarity. You have been the answer to my prayers! You have blessed me so much! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
I´ll share this 3 scenarios:
1) Seprent vs human. Gen 3
Strategy: Make believe God lied.
“Has God indeed said,........“You will not surely die.
Purpose: disobedience
2) Lying prophet vs real prophet 1 King 13
Strategy: Make you think God changed his mind
v18 “I too am a prophet as you are, and an angel spoke to me by the word of the Lord, saying, ‘Bring him back with you to your house, that he may eat bread and drink water.’ ” (He was lying to him.)
Purpose: disobedience
This one showed the BEST RESULTS for christianity
3) Sathan vs Jesus Matt 4
Strategy: Use one part of the Scriptures to make you disobey other
"IT IS WRITTEN"
v5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
Purpose: Disobedience
This is the one we live at the momento. PAUL SAID..... Apostles said in Act 15.... Even preachers and teachers like this, with a very good ellaborated doctrine. and even if they did.... I´d take the apostles advice
Acts 5:29
New King James Version
29 But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men.
If the doctrine you are hearing result in disobedience, I may consider is not God behind it...
Blessings and may the Lord brin clarity
Essentially it comes down to what is sin. The scripture says sin is the transgressing of the law. Which law? The HR people interpret scripture differently than most modern denominations, and I would say they make compelling cases. Is it still sin to break God’s commandments? When did the scripture say that the law is done away with?
Hang in there, Laurel! Hold fast to the truth and don’t allow the yolk of HRM to weigh you down. That movement is not at all what Jesus instituted.
@@SDreamchaser David didn't seemed very weighed down by the law.
"I will always obey your law, for ever and ever. I will walk about in freedom, for I have sought out your precepts. for I delight in your commands because I love them.
Psalms 119:44-45, 47"
@@etherealwave991 David was a Jew and was therefore under the Law of Moses. It has no application for anyone else. The Law became obsolete at the crucifixion of Jesus at which point the New Covenant came into operation. The NC is a Covenant of grace, not one of Law or works.
I have been studying the book of Hebrews online with the Jewish Awareness Ministries (a Jewish evangelism ministry). It has taken over a year to go through the entire book of Hebrews. The context of the entire book of Hebrews is Jesus Is Greater.
Amen
Amen!!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍
"For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ." John 1:17.
"Has not Moses given you the Law? Yet not one of you keeps it. Why are you trying to kill Me?” John 7:19.
The Qoheleth Foundation are you say that God did not show grace, mercy and truth during the Old Testament time period?
Mike thank you so much for this teaching! I'm a new believer and I've been juggling these concepts and asking for more and more clarity and understanding. I've come to realize that we are not to follow the law of Moses, but rather the commandments of Jesus and humbly serve the kingdom with unconditional love. This video really helps to solidify that understanding and explain some of the scriptures I was still uncertain about. God bless!
I couldn't finish watching half of this video. And I've alredy seen how Mike Winger
Twisted the words of the scriptures, and gives what he thinks is the meaning of the words in his own opinion, as if his opinion were authority over the meaning of the scriptures themselves.
This is what humans have done with the word of God, Not only gentiles but also prophets and scribs, etc.
Showing just natural human condition when they find something they are not willing to obey. Humans will twist, alter, water down, and manipulate the meaning of the instructions of GOD to their own understanding and personal interst, but will not seek GOD'S GIVEN porpose and meaning for his word from GOD'S owns understanding, Which we can find written in the whole bible.
If we Just pay carefufull and close attention and remove our own human idiosyncrasy biased.
The commandments of Jesus is directly from the Torah- Gods instructions for living AKA the Law GIVEN to Moses? Jesus arrested the pharisees and saducees for distorting the Law, NOT for following it!
If we truly are in Christ Jesus and are willing to obey the Spirit, we will have an even more complete law than that of Moses. Meaning that obedience to the teachings of the Spirit will even teach things there is no law written for.
What is the teaching of the spirit ?
No answer?... 🤔
Hi there TP. If we are truly in Christ then we can call ourselves followers. Jesus very early on in his ministry stated that he hadn't come to do away with the law or the prophets and that anyone who broke even the least of the commandments and taught others to do so would be the least in the kingdom of God. You probably go to a church that teaches that Paul claims the law was done away with. Surely according to Jesus own words, this would make Paul one of the least in the kingdom. So by extension why would you follow Pauls teachings and not Jesus's? the following verse is worth pondering Matt 5:17-19 Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@@nzsurfer well said! If we were to say the name of the Messiah in English, it would be Joshua. I call Him by His Hebrew name, Yahushua. But right on man! In the right direction indeed.
James King Doing away with the law? God forbid. The law is for the unrighteous, as Timothy states. It's not, however for the righteous. Who is the righteous? That's truly the question. For there's none righteous. Except Jesus Christ, whom fulfilled the law, which man alone could not do. Which made Him the acceptable and Holy sacrifice, sufficient to redeem ALL who believe in His righteousness. To be under the law, means that we trust in our own abilities to keep the law, for salvation. This is the bondage we are liberated from, through the finished work of Christ. We MUST believe, not in our own abilities to keep the law, but rather His finished work of redemption for our Salvation. Trusting in Jesus's righteousness, means that I KNOW I cannot fulfill or keep the law in my own. Trusting in His righteousness means that I believe on Him to create in me a heart which hates sin and loves that which is good in His eyes. Trusting in His righteousness, is loving HIM and believing that He who begins a work in me, will finish it, because I alone cannot. My assurance that I belong to Him, is this ongoing, daily sanctification occurring within me, which causes me to cringe, and feel grieved, and turn away from situations where there is filthy and ungodly speech or behavior which, before didn't grieve me, and of which I was even comfortable engaging with it. The way I used to dress, which had no modesty, and the more I could cause men to look at me and lust after me, the better, where now, if my shorts are too, far above the knees I feel shame, guilt, and feel dirty, therefore I tend to dress more modest. I used to wear so much make-up that I needed an hour to put it on. Now, if I use more than mascara, I feel guilt, and just don't do it. Even down to the color of my clothes. I can't even wear red. Not completely sure where that's not right, except for it being a seductive color? Nevertheless, I am convicted enough not to wear it. This is the assurance I have, because if I had tried to become acceptable before God through keeping the law, I would have failed and not even understood, and felt under bondage, I would have felt, "Oh man, I'd sure love to wear those short-shorts, look how cute!, But oh man, I just can't if I want to please God. But I'd sure like to". Then the rest of the evening I'd be miserable because my heart was set on them, even though I didn't wear them, and obeyed the modesty code. That's the bondage of keeping the law. The freedom comes in Jesus, trusting in Him, He creates in us a heart which is not grieved by doing that which is pleasing to Him. So, I become, because of His work on the cross, and because of His work in me, I begin like, "Oh my, those shorts are waaaaaay too, short, last time I tried wearing them, I felt so ashamed and half-naked! No, I don't believe I want to wear those. Let's try these pants, they're not skin tight and they cover my legs". So, then I can be pleasing to God while my heart is not grieved and I am not burdened by the bondage of the "modesty code". This is the work of the sanctification of the Spirit which comes once you place your trust in His finished work for your Justification, rather than your own inability to keep the law, with heart, mind, and body. Does this help explain to you what I believe? I hope so. I wouldn't want to be responsible for leaving you with a belief that I believed any other way, and have you make wrong judgement in your heart about something which isn't even true. The law shouldn't be first, it can't be the horse that's pulling the cart. It must be the cart, and the horse which gives it power, and pulls it along our walk, us Jesus's righteousness. His finished work, He MUST come first. You cannot put the law above Him. Cannot believe you'll receive justification by keeping any part of it, or all of it, for that's impossible, no one but Jesus ever did, nor will anyone ever. The law becomes part of your heart, only after you put Jesus first, and trust in Him to create in you a heart which can even understand it, let alone desire to keep, or even the ability to. By grace through FAITH in HIM, and Him alone.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm an Ex Seventh day Adventist and this is a message I pray all of my SDA family and friends could watch and UNDERSTAND. I've also made a few videos about some of the SDA beliefs. But this video of yours is so ON POINT!
I think you are missing a very key point to Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. “Till heaven and earth pass away”, where do we see these words spoken again? Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. “ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.” Therefore the law is still relevant today and is not fulfilled until Christs judgement. People need to test everything against the scriptures and not because man tells them what to think and believe.
@@rocco9611 yeah.. what the pastor said about context totally flew over your head eh? By your logic the one who showed Peter about how not to call what He has cleaned to be unclean in his dream of a net of uncleaned food, is not God then? For at that moment, God certainly told Peter that the law on dietary uncleanliness and its application, because of the sacrifice of Jesus, has changed.
Idiocy needs to know some limit
See... the whole point of this discussion is the fourth commandment. The only commandment with explanation.
@@Jinkypigs How brotherly of you calling me an idiot. I wonder what YHWH thinks about that? Now as for Peter’s vision of unclean food, Jesus did not die on the cross to make all things clean. Remember Peter was instructed 3 times to rise, kill and eat to which Peter retorts,” By no means, LORD; for I have never eaten anything common or unclean”. This is followed by YHWH saying, “ What YHWH has cleansed call it not common”. At the time Peter doubted himself as to the meaning of the vision. Now this is important, Cornelius sent 3 men to call on Peter. Peter as all Jews of the time considered gentiles to be common and unclean. After Peter went to Joppa and met with Cornelius who was a Roman centurion, he understood the visions meaning. Peter said this, “ You know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath showed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.” Call any man common or unclean, this is about humans and not about unclean animals or creeping things now becoming clean and considered food. Much love and blessings.
@@rocco9611. That is complete rubish and a twisting of the text to make Dr. Kellogg your master. Peter argues he has never eaten unclean things and has been kosher his entire life. You twist the table cloth filled with unclean food into not associating with Gentiles. That's pathetic but GOD saw your antichrist cult coming along time ago. The table cloth with unclean things comes down and JESUS commands Peter to kill and eat. Your rubbish would be CHRIST commanding Peter to kill Cornelus than eat his flesh. See how your lies turn grotesqe when you apply Ellen's lies to the text. Anyways, HE saw your lesser light and gave us Acts 11:2. More than two witnesses testified Peter did eat non-kosher unclean creepy things. End of argument.
While were in Acts 10 your antichrist cult say baptism first then the HOLY SPIRIT will enter us. Your cult also forbids water until a new believer accepts EGW and the 28 articals. The Cornelius group were anready SPIRIT filled before water baptism. Your inspired lesser light got it wrong. She was pathetic in the WORD and was commanded to learn in silence, seek her husband to teach her and never usurp a man's authority. Your cult is in disobedience to GOD by giving her all authority even over your male scholars who disagreed and voiced their truth only to be fired and excommunicated. very common cult tactic.
I understand that “To fulfil and abolish the law” was rabbinic augmentation back in the day (David Biven, ‘understanding the difficult words of Jesus’)
And basically He was saying, ‘I did not come to misinterpret the law, (destroy) but to interpret (fulfil) it correctly.”
Obviously when He chastised the Pharisees’ manmade traditions he accused them of abolishing Gods commands in favor of their traditions.
Your right its so easy ,why would he live a life of righteousness because he kept the law ,so now without the law ,what is Christ righteousness that these people claim they have ?
@@thedisciple5115 I always think of Matthew 7:21-23 for these people. It's so weird. I remember from a pastor who preached that some christians now "believe in Jesus, but live like demons".
Altogether, the bible even says sin is the transgression of the Law of God right? In other words, lawlessness. So then why that now we are in Christ, we become more lawless than we were back when we were following our flesh?
I think the problem is, people don't understand the Law and Covenants. They also don't understand the purpose of the priesthood and the High Priest most especially. And above all, these commandments of God are just holding them back from their fleshy desires. Like the Sabbath and the food Laws.
@@bryanyawn your right,its actually bad,the food laws alone. The seventh day sabbath, is so clear,these commandments are so easy to keep.instead they do exact opposite saying christ set them free.i started at sunday church, after clearly seeing The Seventh-Day Sabbath in the Bible, seeing what Abomination pork is to God, I learned something new and was obedient. Christmas has a horrible roots to it. yet its these people won't dare give up that holiday, yes it is like their disobedient,definitely not the jesus of the bible they are serving. don't know if you did research on the holidays, most have Pagan roots to it, so now I keep holy days,"feasts".
SHALOM
@@thedisciple5115 SHALOM Brother! His Shalom is very evident among His people. Yes, i know about the pagan holidays. I condone none of them anymore. Whatever is not in the feasts that God declares, i do not celebrate. I'm only beginning to observe His feasts. In the coming season, I pray, as the the Spirit of the Word of God through His son Jesus leads.
I pray that the Lord guide us even more as we prepare for His kingdom.
Since when does fulfill mean interpret??
I have found this topic a non stop search among others also. When we read scripture like these saying things like my law will be in their hearts and minds or within his people, or that we must worship in spirit and truth, and since the law is referred to as the truth, it is sure we are at least under some sort of law of the Most High. One terrifying scripture could be "depart from me you who work iniquity or lawlessness". I spirituality have found comfort in that I have found myself and others in a constant search for what is the law or even better what is it that our Lord expects of us. In the true desire to please the one true God, this devotion should turn into a lifelong, maybe you could say quest or search, of Scriptures other people's and our own Revelation, testing spirits, non stop prayer and fasting and studying to show thyself approved, improving the walk, and keeping the greatest of the commands (loving God and thy neighbor)causes those who truly seek to grow closer to an answer may find even better, a relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, to where his sheep will begin to actually hear his voice and become his "friends" John 15:14 for keeping his commands and acting in Faith. It is truly amazing to see the hearts of his children seeking him, because he called us first. My advise simply would be do more if you possibly can and seek his face with all you have, lose your life for his namesake, and remember other brothers and sisters may be at a different place than us but we all make up one body, so love and encourage each other as Christ did and does for us. Our Father has always wanted a people who seek to be his people and he will be our God. Love the Lord God with all your heart, mind, body, and spirit, all the rest will follow. Much love to you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Be strong and of good courage!
I know this is an old comment, but I have a few tears from it. So well said. I recently started down the path of Hebrew Roots, and was really getting deep into their teaching, all out of the desire to obey God and draw closer to Him. It seems to me that any way that the world is going is the opposite direction that we should be going, so the whole "set apart" theme of their teaching struck home. However, it has caused me a touch of inner turmoil with feelings I have toward other Christians who don't agree, and that can't be right. The heart of Christ would have me feel love, not feelings of lofty spirituality above others. I then saw a video discussing the core beliefs of 119 and possible Unitarianism, and here I am back with Mike Winger 🙂. I agree with you, that the constant search and desire to please God (and draw closer to Him) is a comfort, and my heart rejoices to see so many more on that/THE path these days. May God bless you, Kris, and anyone else who reads this.
If someone fulfills the obligations of your mortgage contract by paying it off, then we'd think you were insane if you kept acting as if it were still obligatory, and if you kept paying checks to the mortgage company.
Right
but this is not what happened, Israel stopped paying the mortage. Then they almost went to jail because of the debt, a man came and pay the debt, and they need to pay the rest until they live here.
edgar alejos But nobody needs to pay anything, except perhaps thanks and gratitude for Christ paying off the entire debt.
This example is misleading. It’s more like you committed a crime or slavery, born to serving the sentence. Jesus provided the rest of the story of law as well as providing the means to put an end to future slavery. Like do you have all the books in a popular series? If you don’t have the final book you’re still left wondering. If your order came in 3 shipments, your order isn’t fulfilled until you get all three boxes. But the boxes (the law of the prophets) aren’t taken from you, you now have everything you need. If it was done away with, you’d have no sin, no reason for Jesus, if there’s no law, we can’t see how much isn’t unattainable for us and then know we need God to provide the solution. It has to remain otherwise the cross is for nothing.
Rebecca S. You’re saying things that are true, but unrelated to the specific issue. The issue is wheteher we’re in debt to the Law once we’re in Christ.
The debt’s been fully paid.
But the Law still has a place, especially for the unbeliever, in convicting of sin. The Law leads us to Christ.
“We know that the Law is good, if one uses it properly.”
“The Law has become our guardian to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. Right now that Faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. For you are all sons and daughters of God through faith in Christ Jesus.”
Until All is accomplished. And what were Jesus’ words on the cross?
“It is accomplished.” Amen! Praise Jesus!
Amen! Jesus said he would fulfill the law and the prophets. If you believe Moses, you would believe me, because he spoke about me.
Acts 13:29 KJV - And when they had FULFILLED ALL that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
Not one jot nor tittle will pass TILL ALL IS FULFILLED.
All is fulfilled at His second coming, not His death at the cross. Jesus came to become our High Priest and to be our last sacrifice in preparation for His second coming.
Hebrews 10:5-10
Therefore, when Christ enters into the world, He says,
“Sacrifice and offering You have not desired,
But [instead] You have prepared a body for Me [to offer];
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin You have taken no delight.
“Then I said, ‘Behold, I have come
To do Your will, O God-
[To fulfill] what is written of Me in the scroll of the book.’”
After saying [in the citation] above, “You have neither desired, nor have You taken delight in sacrifices and offerings and whole burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin” (which are offered according to the Law) then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will.” [And so] He does away with the first [covenant as a means of atoning for sin based on animal sacrifices] so that He may inaugurate and establish the second [covenant by means of obedience]. And in accordance with this will [of God] we [who believe in the message of salvation] have been sanctified [that is, set apart as holy for God and His purposes] through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed) once for all.
Hebrews is really misunderstood when it's says the first covenant is growing old and ready to disappear. Nothing is done away with yet, not until revelation 21 1-4 has happened. That verse tells us that at the new heaven and earth the former order of life (the Law) has passed, which reflects Matthew 5 saying that the heaven and earth would pass before anything passes from the Law.
That's very poor exegesis. Heaven and Earth didn't pass away, why would you think "all" was accomplished at the cross? What about "all" that he spoke of concerning the end times, not to mention all that has and will occur until then?
@@xceptioncreations8595 All was fulfilled at the cross what was of him. The heaven and earth passing was symbolized as the law passing in destruction of the temple. That was the heaven and earth passing. The death on the cross was what started it. The new covenant was in forced then but they were not ready to give their sacrifices of animals just yet. 😁😊😉
@@shellyblanchard5788 How can you say it was symbolic? Where does the bible call it symbolic? Jesus said until heaven and earth pass away. This doesn't happen until after the millennial kingdom. The bible isn't a giant puzzle full of interpretations. The bible always gives you answers. 2 Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."
Thank you so much for your ministry Mike. I’m a new believer and I’ve heard and seen so many in recent years say we need to be following the laws. I asked God for clarity and I ended up getting this in my suggestion to watch and I read Galatians where Paul talks about the law. I know God brought me to you and choosing to read Galatians. Your thoughtfulness in this has helped except the freedom of Christ.
Excited for you on your journey of learning and trusting God! In all these things about the laws, just remember that we can never be righteous because of anything we could ever do. God gives us grace and salvation, a gift from him that we could never earn. We do not have to follow specific laws in order to receive salvation. But we have been given ways to live and examples throughout the bible of how to live well to honor God, and some of these laws can help us follow him and know him better. For example, keeping a weekly Sabbath could never give us salvation, because we have already received that through Christ, but it is a free gift to set our lives in the weekly rhythm he created, to pause our business and rest in his peace. The other 9 commandments are more obvious. When people get caught up on exactly how we are supposed to live, it often gets really legalistic, like they're forgetting we don't have to earn salvation. We GET TO live our lives with Christ and lean on him for everything. So if you're getting confused hearing someone's teaching on laws, just remember they were given to us to help us honor God and lean on him. We have the gift of the holy spirit to help us discern these things, and I doubt any one of us has it all figured out. If you feel like some teaching is off, either it is or you're wrong - pray about it, talk to friends, pray for the holy spirit to lead you to how God wants you to follow him. Many Catholics are saved, many charismatics are saved...there are so many ways to practice your faith and honor God. Enjoy your journey! I love learning more every day. Also, I just heard this - how to pray? Lots of us christians jump into asking for things. Ok. Don't we want a relationship with Jesus? I want to know him more. When I have a friend or spouse, I want to know that person, maybe I'll ask for help, but I want more than anything to know them. I've recently thought about that and started praying more like that, it's interesting. I feel such a yearning to know God and, like, be friends. Anyway, I just got excited to see you're new in believing so I had to share. 🙄
I know this is old but Mike I just want you to know I am LOVING this series and also your Roman Catholic series. Your expressions when talking about Jesus and how when he was young he was asking so many questions just had me so giddy. God bless you mike 💙
Hosea 4:6 " my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou has rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee. That thou shall be no priest to me: seeing thou Hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.".....
" remember the Sabbath to keep it holy"
Right these were the commands God gave to Israel in the middle east. He mentions the priesthood under the Law and everything.
@@ejuniorc09pkm sin is transgression against the law, it's that simple. I'm a ex Christian pastor ,I understand where you're coming from. Paul's writings are easy to misinterpret, God's laws not bondage, it just tells us what sin is, and not to do it.Mike Winger is a false teacher. Hes more like a devil to me. The damage he's doing to young believers.when you get into the Sabbath, you start looking into Israel itself, Christ was a Jew, you see how precious God is, then you understand Paul is not going against God's work.
There's a reason why christ is still the lion from the tribe of Judah in the Book of Revelations.
SHALOM
@@thedisciple5115 nope, as a Gentile, I agree with the man in the video. The Law of Moses came into existance at a certain time for a certain people but even Gentiles were accountable to God for certain sins which did not involve the Mosaic Law. This means that there are laws of God concerning righteousness apart from the Mosaic Law which came at a specific time.
@@ejuniorc09pkm whatever
@@ejuniorc09pkm so you still consider yourself a gentile when you believe in the Jesus?
I watch your translation videos bc I do translation work. I'm also a synagogue president.
I'm not going to give an opinion on Christian theology, but will say we get Hebrew roots people coming in wanting to convert on a nearly annual basis.
We're always happy to accept people, but they are usually sad folks who've estranged themselves from their families and are coming to us bc of tortured logical twists rather than any real knowledge of the Jewish faith.
My standing order to our congregational rabbi is, for pastoral reasons, before embarking on any conversion program, to ask them to read books on Christian history that walk them from the apostles to the apostolic fathers to the church fathers showing who's who's student so they see there's no mysterious break in history where the Church ceased being Jewish and became Paganized, which is one of their beliefs.
Otherwise they end up shattered people stuck in a religion they don't really want to be part of bc they felt another religion wanted them to do that. It's a disaster.
I’d love to know what resources you have them read.
There is no Christian theology, it's Jewish theology and in the old testament.
That is well and thoughtfully said. While as a Christian, I pray that our Hebrew brothers come to believe that Jesus Christ is the true Messiah, I understand that this is something that they must be led to by the Spirit of God. I feel very sorry for the HRM people, it does seem they have been drawn into error. And while I know that many leave the faith of Christ and convert to Judaism, I don't think that will solve anything.
To a Christian, all of the scriptures point clearly to the truth of the Lord Jesus the Christ and the truth of His plain and simple Gospel of salvation through faith in His atonement for our sins. So simple that a child can understand it, yet so profound that it can be examined by the wise and serve to strengthen their faith. I thank you for your kindness and thoughtfulness to these poor people, and pray that you also may come to know Jesus. 🙏✝️👑🙏
Well that is absolutely false. The Jewish Christian schism was hard-lined at 135ad, the end of the Judeo-Roman wars. We see the political solidification of those cultural differences happen in the 300AD's.
This is a very timely teaching for me as I just read Acts 15 last month for the first time and found solace in it. I was so encouraged by what I read, I eagerly shared it with my wife, mom, and a small group of men from my church (so I got to preach a little... Yay!). The Holy Spirit in us will lead us along paths of righteousness for His name's sake. However, for external boundaries (law) for the Gentiles, the Church founders present these:
Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.
Acts 15:19-20 ESV
Why do you guys ignore Acts 15:21. The gentiles were to go in the synagogue every Sabbath and learn Torah. Amazing nobody talks about that scripture
@@elijahirvin5911 I read that verse in multiple versions and it doesn't seem to say what you wrote in your comment. What version are you reading from?
@@DanielLynds explain acts 15:21 please
@@DanielLynds why do Christians fight so hard against keeping God's law it's unbelievable to me. Please tell me what acts 15:21 means if they went to the synagogue every Sabbath from listening to them preach about Moses what were they learning. The Bible is like a puzzle you have to put together read acts 13:42-44. I guarantee you they wouldn't let nothing about Sunday worship Christmas Easter Good Friday none of that
@@elijahirvin5911
How do you square that circle knowing that the temple was destroyed and now no sacrifices can be made according to the Law of Moses?
Christ is truly using you. I appreciate your enthusiasm and excitement for the Word. You are clear, specific and provide proof in context. I have been struggling with my family and their shift of the doctrine which they raised us to believe. It did not sit well with my heart, and I have been searching and praying for answers.
I think that one of the biggest error that believers who reject the Law make is that they misunderstand the Hebrew words for:
olah - translated as burnt instead of ascent
korban - translated as offering instead of approach
mincha - translated as grain instead of present
kippur - translated as atonement instead of covering
moed - translated as feast instead of appointment
shema - translated as hear (or more often as obey) instead of listen intently with understanding in order to give a considered response
shemar - translated as keep (as in observe or obey) instead of guard and protect
If we believe that a burnt offering (olah korban) is a slaughtered animal, we have completed misunderstood what is meant by an ascent approach. The ascent is to go up before God and the approach is a specific way to do so like an approach to an airport runway. If you miss the approach, you will miss the runway. I think all God-fearing believers will admit that drawing close to God is still in effect. So the problem arises in the approach. Again, if we think that the blood of bulls or goats is sufficient to remove sin, we are in error. Only through the blood of Jesus shall we ascend unto Him. Before Jesus made the kippur (the sinless act that binds us with God as bitumen or asphalt binds to whatever it is placed on), believers could only look forward to that day. The slaughtering of the animals most closely represented what God would do through Jesus on the cross. After the crucifixion, the approach is still through the blood of Jesus. And that is why we do not slaughter animals, but we still attend to an ascent approach. This is not trivial. I know it sounds like I am picking and choosing which commands to follow, adhering to the word in Hebrews 8-9 in regard to the blood, but that is because our part in the covenant was never about the slaughter of animals. It was only about the ascent approach. We still have an ascent approach and it is still only through Jesus and His blood.
We are told that if we love Jesus, we are to "obey" His commandments in John 14:15 that is congruent with shemar shema as we read in Deuteronomy 12:28. Believers say that it only refers to the 2 greatest commandments or maybe 9 of the 10 commandments (accurately translated as words). However, we do not have to rescind the Older Testament if we properly translate that to mean "to guard and protect" His commandments (or words). The prescribed ways that pre-crucifixion believers listened intently with understanding was to try to see how killing of an innocent animal could bind them to God.
Our observance of His appointments (moedim) is a blessing when we see all that He has done and all that He promises to do that is best represented by the Feast of Tabernacles (sukkot) such as bringing a new (8th) day (shemini atzeret) after our temporary dwellings (sukkot) are worn out.
Believers who reject guarding and protecting the instructions of Torah because they think that it is "Law" that comes with commands and penalties misunderstand that Torah is simply instructions to help us live a life that is pleasing to God by listening intently with understanding to His words and giving a considered response.
I am Hebraic Roots. Enjoyed your 1st teaching. I,ve enjoyed a number of your teachings. Now it hits home.
To be clear, I don't believe I should be obeying Moses's laws. I want to obey God's Ways which I believe supercedes Moses.
Hi Mike, I would like to re-extend my invite to you to come on my channel (or I can guest appear on your channel - either way) for a discussion about the Law of God. We can discuss the larger over-arching context of what YHWH defines as His Law and what the disciples taught about it in their epistles. I appreciate your conviction and what you're hoping to present, but there are some rather large ideas you've not addressed in this livestream tonight. I will be glad to comment (and more importantly exegete from the Torah) on Hebrews chapter 8-11 with you.
I'm willing to discuss your main points with you as I've already offered in my initial FB message to you last month. Obviously, the comment section on your video isn't the appropriate place for it, but thankfully we both have channel's for our viewers to be edified. I know you previously said I can use your videos in a rebuttal, but I feel that would only increase the divide and strain the acquaintance.
Bless you, brother.
I would love to see this happen. There are many rather large ideas he has missed. We can't make him see it, we can't make anyone see it, it can only come from the Father. I hope this discussion does happen so that people can see the truth and that they will soften their hearts and necks.
Love it, but doubt will happen.
Large ideas? The main core of the hebrew roots movement has been debunked on this video, and you're still talking about large ideas that were missed? Can't bielive it!
@@carlosdavidcapellan
See if you can "debunk" these Scriptures presented in context listed in this short video below. Walk in love, brother.
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@@carlosdavidcapellan Paul calls them judaizers trying to bewitch the brethren. You can debunk them with a mountain of scripture and they remain blinded. Notice he quotes none of his "large Ideals", very typical of cults to accuse and never profess.
Thank you Mike for taking the time to do these videos it is greatly appreciated. I have three quick questions.
1. I am a Christian who keeps the 10 Commandments. Are you saying it is unnecessary for me to keep the 10 Commandments?
2. How do we define sin without the Law/Commandments?
3. The following New Testament verses appear to indicate that we should be keeping the Commandments. John 14:15, John 15:10, Rom. 2:13, Rom. 3:31, Rom. 7:7, Rom. 7:12-14, Rom. 8:7, 1 Tim. 3:16-17, Heb. 8:10, 1 John 2:3-6, 1 John 3:4, 1 John 3:22-24, 1 John 5:2-3, 2 John 6, Rev. 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22:14. I was wondering if you had planned on addressing any of these scriptures?
PS I have appreciated the way you and 119 Ministries have interacted on this subject it is nice so see people with different views interact in a spirit of love
Thanks again. Lily
Jesus summed up the Law, Mark 12:30-31
It is unnecessary for you to keep the 10 commandments because they're the 10 commandments. However, the principles contained within them are, in essence, also taught in the new covenant. Jesus never said it was okay to worship other gods, kill people, or commit adultery, etc, etc. It's pretty clear those rules apply to gentile christians too.
What has attracted me to HRM is because the paganism in Christian holidays like Christmas and Easter and the rise of Progressive Christianity. Who seem to do the complete opposite of HRM, but appears to have got there start because they have turned there backs on the Torah and even what is labeled as a sin in the NT. I have seen many pastors seem to be focused on preaching about love, grace and forgiveness, but never sin. It makes me feel that preaching about sin is taboo like politics and we are afraid to lose people if we do. In addition I have seen traditional Christians claim to be NT believers because the OT is to confusing and violent.
@@GoosetavoS42 I'm with you Gus. Do you watch Apologia? Jeff Durbin has a pretty good message on how the law appropriately applies to present-day Christians, without taking away from the sacrifice Christ made.
Good questions, please question all. Here are some thoughts for you.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Shalom
I didn't even realise I was heading down the hebrew roots path...I KNOW we are saved by faith ALONE, I was just wanting to be obedient to the 10 commandments, relaxed, informal Sabbath keeping too (used as time to spend with my husband and son, reading the bible together and breaking bread together).
I'm not sure what I do now...I feel a bit weird.
I accept what I've heard here but I really like being obedient 🤪🤣
I've always walked in my faith with love and respect and always known that I'm not earning my way to heaven, that comes from Jesus' work on the cross...but also I've held the 10 commandments in high regard as I negotiate my days (I've only been born again for 3 years).
Love in today's society has become more of a noun than a verb. By this I mean it has become only the feeling of affection and attachment. Love has lost its meaning as an action. Love has lost its meaning as a commitment. This commitment includes a commitment from both parties, not just one. Jesus Christ has already made his commitment to us, and it is our duty, if we truly love God and Christ, to uphold our end of that commitment by reciprocating the love that he gives us. How do we do this? The Apostle John explains best for us what it means to love God and to love Christ:
"If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:15-17
"As the Father hat loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." John 15:9-10
"My little children, these things I write unto you, that ye sin not, And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: And not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him." 1 John 2:1-5
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 5:1-3
"I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father. And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it." 2 John 1:4-6
Only one truth can be drawn from these verses: To love God is to love Christ, and to love God is to keep his commandments.
"Till heaven and earth pass away" I remember reading in Romans and Paul explained that sin was in the flesh when we were born, and the law came and we died because of sin in us. The law magnified sin for the evil it was, and when Jesus achieved victory on the cross, he took victory over sin then.
Since that time, we who believe in Jesus die to our flesh daily and walk in the spirit after him; as he died in the flesh, so also do we daily. The law has dominion over the flesh even to this day, but dominion over the spirit is Jesus's. This is why we're not under the law; because we die to the flesh daily and walk in the spirit in Christ.
This is how I understood Romans when I read it.
That is the beauty of the plain reading.
What is “the flesh” that we die to? Because it seems like many Christians try and act like “the flesh” is anything and everything that we enjoy - that we are supposed to live some sort of ascetic lifestyle.
@@billyb7465 the flesh refers to lusts, or more accurately, lusts that are against God's established order. I remember hearing one time sin described as "pleasure outside it's proper season," and it made sense to me; fornication is intercourse before marriage, which is a defrauding of one another; when you join flesh with one another, you're one flesh for life, which is why it's so important to marry. Otherwise, you wind up exposing the nakedness of many a man and the woman feels unloved by many a man, to the point she hardens her heart toward men in general- after all, all those men hardened their hearts toward her first and refused to love her for real.
Another example would be to cheat people, or extort them, even lie about them to the authorities so they're punished in some way; be it the loss of a job or jail time, or even a fine. Most people know this is beyond wrong even today, but there are groups among us who are finding success with these kinds of tactics, so they use them happily, supposing the ends justify the means. We always want to live honorably and justly among our fellow man, giving respect to everyone as one created in the image and likeness of God, hence why so many of God's laws dealt with how do you deal with people, even those who aren't of your nationality, their possessions and cattle, your possessions and cattle, etc.
God said of the two greatest commandments they were these: love the Lord your God with all your heart, and mind and soul and speech. The second was similar; love your neighbor as yourself.
Because we love God, we turn from the lusts of our flesh, because they go against God's established order, and they are acts of hatred toward God's order. If what you do doesn't go against that order, then you haven't done evil doing that, but those things which are done in their incorrect season, or have perverted the natural order, those are evil and shouldn't be done.
To love your neighbor is to refuse to do evil to them; to treat them fairly, no matter what, and sometimes, you get cheated yourself, but do no evil yourself because you respect God's creation for God's sake.
People do go overboard from time to time forbidding things here and there; they did it in Jesus' time as well, such as making sure you wash your hands, but weren't concerned with forgiveness or justice; weightier matters of the law, far more important than how many times you washed your hands that day. I always suggest to know your scripture and let it be your final authority, because whatever doctrine men come up with, it will be judged by God's word; the scripture.
It isn't complicated. Jesus came not to destroy (because the law isn't bad) but to FULFILL. When something has been fulfilled it's done, finished. Christians are -in- Christ so we have been given HIS completed life to wear. He didn't tear up the test, so to speak, he finished it and got 100% and his grade is now applied to us.
And if they once having that test accredited to them by grace through faith and turn to works filthy rags self righteousness what sacrifice remains without bringing Christ to open shame
None.
That's what the conclusion is denying Christ and being damned without a way to get back
They take christs perfect test throw it away go grab theirs and fail for ever
Revelation 21: 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. Revelation 14:12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
Your point being?
@@paulbrennan4163 the point is obvious. Heaven and earth had not passed away yet...see again Matthew 5:17-19
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Romans 8:4
Romans 8:7
Because the CARNAL MIND is enmity AGAINST God; for it is NOT subject to the LAW of God, nor indeed can be.
Samantha Parks , the flesh Paul is talking about is the law of animal sacrifice , which could not redeem you when you violate the laws of God ; while the spirit is the blood of Christ through faith ( which means that you repent of your sins with a sorrowful heart and believe by obedience ; start keeping the commandments of your mediator Jesus Christ ; which are the same commandments of the Father , FAITH ) . Shalom !
@@messengerisrael3817 The ten are not the Laws in my New Everlasting Covenant with the many. It is not like the covenant made to the fathers. It is 2 commands and 1448 commands and instructions. Hebrew Roots violate most of these.
@@rickhuntling7338 Deuteronomy 18:15-19 , then read John 12:44-50 , then Revelation 20:11-15 . If your new covenant is under the mediator Jesus Christ , then you need to hear what he said about the commandments of God ( Matthews 5:17-19 , Matthew 7:21-23 , John 14:15,21 , John 15:1-10 ) ; but if it's under another mediator , do what he tells you to . Shalom !
@@messengerisrael3817what does Deut. 18:15-19 have to do with the subject of the New Covenant made with the many?
People who live under the law say, look at me, look at my works.
People who live under Grace say, Look at Him, look as His works.
Romans 6:14 for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Frank Christian Solid way to sum it up brother.
Frank Christian I am literally copying this for later use my brother.
People who live under the law say, I love your law, it is my meditation day and night.
People who live under grace say, Thank you Yahweh for pardoning my transgressions of your law, accepting my repentance through your Son Yahshua the Messiah and thank you for His sacrifice for my sins and thank you for the power of Your Holy Spirit that I might fulfill the righteousness of the law Romans8:4 as your Son did because I follow Him.
People who don't understand the scriptures (especially Paul's writings and they were warned 2Peter3:15,16)say, oh lord, thanks for grace and allowing me to live as I please with no specific guidelines, just unconditional, undefined worldly love love love that we can spread to the world through your son Jason, uh, Jesus oh wait, they are the same names (look up Iasous) and thank you for making us better than Jews. We don't like your holy sabbath and obeying our parents and staying faithful in marriage and we can say your name without reverence, say it a thousand times in a row til our tongues roll and we speak in another tongue that makes no sense to us but it makes us feel we have your holy spirit. We know satan isn't clever at all, so we stomp on him in church, dancing on his head, and we're protected by your blood. aman and aman.
MosheMYY M do you think that Jesus is the same entity as God the Father? Or do you think that they are separate, distinct entities?
@@minuteministry488 Jesus is the healing one of the Greco-Roman world. He's has nothing to do with Yahshua the Messiah. Yahshua is the Son of Yahweh. Yahweh is the Father. They are two distinct Beings.
As for Jesus do a google search for "Iasous". Iasous is the same as Iesous. It is a pure Greek name and has nothing to do with translating Yahshua from the Hebrew scriptures. The proof of this is the variants of Iesous that you will find in the Greek New Testament. It has three different translations of Iesous based on Greek grammar, Iesous, Iesou and Iesoun. Iasous/Iesous means healing or healer. It is the same name as Jason. Phonetically it is the healing Zeus.
Dear Mike...please pray for my wife...her mame is Liliana...
Its been nearly one year now that she told me she is not a christian anymore...she follows hebrew roots...
I'm myself a modest pastor in a little congregation in Tenerife Spain...I've tried to make her understand what you teach because I teach that we are under the law of Christ (1.Co.9:19-23) but she says what she recieves comes from God...the word "christian" is not biblical...and "Christ" neither...
I keep on praying for her but it is very very very difficult to live in unequal yoke...it affects every single aspect of our life...
I'd really like to have a chat with you on the topic...
Thanks God for his patience love and mercy...
God bless
Alan.
Keep praying bro, God will help you through
PRAYING FOR YOU ALAN!
Prayers for you Alan. My wife and in laws are also caught up in Hebrew Roots. It's a larger faction between us. When they believe I'm acting like a pagan and idolater for attending a Sunday church, or not keeping the feasts, it can become draining.
Thank you that was a very good exposé. I’m so glad you’ve covered this!!! Clearing all the confusion out. I’ve recently came across a Hebrew roots movement on RUclips and I didn’t realise it until I started digging into their core believes. At the beginning I really enjoyed and was very blessed by their great teachings on Old Testament truths, I wanted to know more about the Hebrew foundation of the gospel and I found great answers on their channel, and I just thought to ignore some of the things they say or do (follow Shabbat etc) thinking it was minor since they still believe in Jesus as Messiah so that’s ok. But some specific things kept reoccurring in the teachings and I had to dig deeper, I realised they believe in a certain interpretation of the ‘two sticks’ doctrine based on Ezekiel 37. It basically says that God (Yah as they say) is reuniting the descendants of the tribe of Judah and the lost 10 tribes (Ephraim) and they teach that all believers are in fact descendants from the lost tribes of Israel that were scattered around the world and that God is bringing them back to the truth and to the Torah! They teach that there’s an awakening around the world of many people coming to understand their Jewish ancestry and coming back to the Torah. They went as far as saying that Paul’s epistle have not been interpreted properly, that when he wrote about bringing the Jews and the gentiles together as one new man he meant the Tribe of Judah and Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes) meaning that the gentiles Paul was talking about are the descendants of Ephraim. They have built a (convincing) case to prove that the Jews scattered around the world and are in all the nations. Even if it’s true that many of us have Jewish roots, that kind of teaching ends up being exclusive to a certain genetic group of people or ethnicity which is so NOT the Gospel. Didn’t’ Jesus die for everyone? What happened to whosoever believes ? This kind of teachings play with your mind. The channels teaches truths and mixes it with a portion of lies, and even if the portion of lies is only a part of it, it corrupts everything. They keep bringing back this doctrine at every corner. One of things that also made me start to wonder is that even though they acknowledge Yeshua as the Messiah they don’t speak much of Him, don’t seem to exalt Him more than that, don’t talk much of what He’s accomplish and who He is.
The lies are so subtle. I didn’t know about the Hebrew roots movement until now. I knew something wasn’t right but couldn’t put my finger on it until I checked their cores believes. I think people are blessed when they understand truths about the Old Testament and how it connects to the New Testament with the foreshadowings of Jesus, but the deception is to stop there and to start living the Old Testament and the Jewish way again instead of realising Jesus fulfilled it all. I’m so glad the Holy Spirit opened my eyes in time. We need to know the Word of God for ourselves! Thanks again Mike and God bless you.
*the channel I’m talking about is ‘Assembly of called-out Believers’ with teacher Isaac Heckman*.
great share Ruby. Thanks.
for all my teen years I was fed good teaching from the Word at a Full Gospel Church but they taught big on British Israel(ism) which is not right. Your description of what you were being taught at the HeBR church sounds very very much like the British Israel doctrine. Glad you came out of that.
It MUst be all about Jesus and who He is and what He has done; He has taken us out of the Law and we now belong to Him. This is what Paul says in chap 7 of Romans v1-4.
It is what he means when by the Holy Spirit he says that we are not our own - we have been bought with a price (Jesus blood) 1 Cor 6. And we are not under the Law of Moses but under the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus - which has made us free from the Law of Sin and Death (which is what the Law of Moses was) - Romans 8:1-2.
Abide in Jesus and go on growing up in Him to teh fulness of he measure of the staure of Christ - Ephesians 4:13.
@@ianmcdonald8648 thank you for your reply. My comment is quite long so I wondered if anyone would read it! Lol.
Yes it’s all about Jesus and if we truly seek Him and not a carnal Christianity pleasing our flesh or justifying our believes or certain doctrines, He will set us free from deception. The deception is rampant out there, the devil knows God’s Word and he uses it to play with our minds and leads us away from the truth. Bless you Ian.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
I so much appreciate all the time and effort that each one of your videos must take. They are loaded with much to study and contemplate. May you always feel God's loving hands in all you do, Thanks from Canada.
The law of God is like a mirror that shows us our need for Jesus. The law doesn’t remove the sin- we must be cleansed with Jesus blood.
If you have Jesus living in your hearts- then you are not killing, stealing, coveting, committing adultery and you love God and want to worship Him like He says.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 KJV
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Isaiah 1:9-10 KJV
[9] Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah. [10] Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
Isaiah 1:16-20 KJV
[16] Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; [17] Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. [18] Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord : though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. [19] If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land: [20] But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.
Isaiah 5:20 KJV
[20] Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Isaiah 5:24 KJV
[24] Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
[14] If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
Isaiah 8:16 KJV
Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Isaiah 8:20 KJV
[20] To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Proverbs 3:5-7 KJV
[5] Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. [6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. [7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.
Isaiah 66:22-23 KJV
[22] For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. [23] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
Luke 16:17 KJV
[17] And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.t
Psalm 111:7-8 KJV
[7] The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. [8] They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness.
God is good
Law is good
Truth
Unchangable
Same names
Jesus was the Word
Wise men build on the Rock
Jesus life was Obedience to the law of God
Sin is transgression of the law
By the law is the knowledge of sin
Law is not to save us
Shows us the purpose of salvation
Jesus kept the commandments
John 15:10 KJV
[10] If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
What is the punishment for living a life in sin
Wages of death
Not binding - Mathew 19:17 keep the commandments
Matthew 19:17 KJV
[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
How is it possible to keep them?
Romans 8:3-4 KJV
[3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Philippians 4:6
Mark 10:27 KJV
[27] And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
Proverbs 29
1 John 2:3-5 KJV
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. [5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Proverbs 29:18 KJV
[18] Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
Deuteronomy 30:19-20 KJV
[19] I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: [20] That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
Acts 5:29 KJV
[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Hebrews 5:9 KJV
[9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
1 Peter 1:25 KJV
[25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
Genesis 22:18 KJV
[18] And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Deuteronomy 11:27-28 KJV
[27] A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: [28] And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
Deuteronomy 13:4 KJV
[4] Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Matthew 3:2 KJV
[2] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Revelation 3:19 KJV
[19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 KJV
[13] Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. [14] For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Jonah 1:9 KJV
[9] And he said unto them, I am an Hebrew; and I fear the Lord, the God of heaven, which hath made the sea and the dry land.
Exodus 20:11 KJV
[11] For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Psalm 95:5-7 KJV
[5] The sea is his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry land. [6] O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the Lord our maker. [7] For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
Psalm 146:6 KJV
[6] Which made heaven, and earth, the sea, and all that therein is : which keepeth truth for ever:
Revelation 14:7 KJV
[7] Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1 ESV
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
Exodus 16:22-31 Here is mention of a seventh-day sabbath. It was known, not only before the giving of the law upon mount Sinai, but before the bringing of Israel out of Egypt, even from the beginning, Ge 2:3. The setting apart one day in seven for holy work, and, in order to that, for holy rest, was ever since God created man upon the earth, and is the most ancient of the Divine laws. Appointing them to rest on the seventh day,
1 John 2:17 KJV
[17] And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Matthew 3:12 KJV
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Isaiah 5:24 KJV
Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, so their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the Lord of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.
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Hebrews 5:9 KJV
[9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
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Numbers 23:20 KJV
[20] Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.
Is Sunday blessed and sanctified by God in Biblical scriptures?
The seventh day Sabbath is
Numbers 23:20 KJV
[20] Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.
Acts 5:29 KJV
[29] Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Matthew 15:9 KJV
[9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines
the commandments of men.
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Deuteronomy 9:10 KJV
Numbers 23:20 KJV
Acts 5:29
Matthew 15:9 KJV
Hebrews 8:10 KJV
Hebrews 10:16 KJV
Proverbs 4:4 KJV
John 14:15 KJV
Hi Mike,
When you talk about the native and the sojourner and Israel as a nation, Hebrew roots has a much different perspective. I think 119 has a video called “the lost sheep” and “what is the gospel”. The theology is that the northern and southern kingdom (Israel and Judah) split and the northern kingdom was dispersed among the nations (the lost tribes of Israel) and that God is restoring that, fulfilling prophecy. In other words, that we are Israel. This is a general doctrine of Hebrew roots. Also, the stick of Ephraim ( two house theology). To really rebuttal Hebrew roots, two house will have to be addressed. I have truly believed this around 3 years now and have accepted that the Torah is still applicable today. With that being said, I have an open ear and I am open for thoughtful and biblical proof of an interpretation and am willing to change views. Tackling the theology I put forth will get to the heart of the theology and debate.
Yeeeees!!! There is such a huge misunderstanding of what happened when the tribes split and ALL the prophecy about them being joined back together under the new covenant. The most clear teaching I have seen on this is from Jim Staley called Identity Crisis.
Great question.
Just got approached recently by a leader from a Church of God and the first study was about how keeping the sabbath was essentially a salvation issue. Red flags everywhere. I gave him Col 2 and Rom 14 as a response to debate the next time we talked, but these in depth deep dives are exactly what I needed. Thank you so much for your commitment to study!
Col 2 and Romans were both written by Paul. Paul kept Sabbath - Acts 17:2 and encouraged all Christians to keep all Ten Commandments - 1 Cor 7:19.
or do you believe these books are justification to forget the Command which begins with _'Remember'_ ??
*Happy Sabbath!!!*
i pray church tomorrow morning (the Lord's day) is a blessing for all who know God and love Christ!
Keeping one of Gods 10 commandment
"red flag"
LOL. Sabbath will be kept for eternity in the Kingdom of God. Collosians 2:8 mentions vain philosophy and deciet based on manmade rules. The sabbath was created by God, eternal law.
@@tony1685the person you're replying to is saying that church taught Sabbath as a salvation issue. Keeping thr Sabbath or not keeping does not affect whether you're saved. That's the point.
@@camillewilliams3185 hi Ma'am!
you wrote: _'Keeping thr (sic) Sabbath or not keeping does not affect whether you're saved.'_ - so a 10% discount on God's Ten Commandments is ok then?
is that what Jesus said in Matt 5:19, Luke 16:17 or John 14:15?
what about those who have the right to the tree of life in Revelation 22:14
did they say it's ok to now keep just _'some of'_ God's Commands?
or that it's ok we forget the One which begins with _'Remember'_ ?
that makes no sense, Ma'am.
Bible shows us that if one doesn't keep His *TEN* Commandments, then that person or church:
1 - doesn't know God - 1 John 2:3
2 - doesn't love Christ - John 14:15
3 - doesn't walk in Truth - 1 John 2:4
4 - isn't headed to Heaven - Matt 19:17, Rev 22:14
thanks for your post, Ma'am.
i pray this makes sense to you.
questions invited and encouraged.
Bless you, Mike, for doing these amazing in-depth conversations and studies. I've been sharing them with my friends.
My dear brothers and sisters.... I've come to the conclusion that very few Hebrew Roots/Messianic/Puritan adherents are truly willing to consider the validity of their theology... my recommendation is to not get into long debates with them when they prove to be closed off to the possibility of their error... ESPECIALLY if they become hostile and accusational. I personally have made this mistake... it's EXHAUSTING, and it's probably contrary to appropriate correction or witnessing. Know when to walk away... know when you are casting pearls before swine... know when truth is falling on deaf ears. You speak truth, let the Spirit convict. Those who truly seek the truth will find it. All of Paul's writings are pretty clear on their error... Hebrews make their error CRYSTAL clear.
So, speak the truth in love, but know when your conversation has become unfruitful... just plant the seed and leave it to the Lord.
Well said!
I hear you on this point, but I don’t think his message is for those who are not open to teaching, but it’s for those that can understand the rational presented by 119 Ministries. It’s great that Mark is able to explain verse by verse. I personally have been struggling with this doctrine and I’ve found that when I’ve asked questions, genuinely seeking to understand, the response I’ve received from “traditional” Christians is simply that scripture is being twisted with no explanation beyond that included. While content like this may fall on many deaf ears, it’s message is still reaching someone!
@@smashleyscott8272 Well said. It is hard sometimes when this dreadful Hebrew Roots theology has taken hold on some close family members.
@@ManOfDeath567 ... I understand. I have a couple of friends who have swallowed this nonsense.
The rich young ruler had fulfilled all the law yet he still lacked something...Jesus told him to go sell everything and follow Him. Have any of us done that? Have the Hebrew roots movement done that? Obviously the fulfillment of the law leaves one lacking in reference to following Jesus.
Good point.
Though he didn’t keep the first and greatest commandment, which without being born again with the Holy Spirit is impossible.
The whole point being, we CANNOT keep His perfect statutes. That’s why Jesus fulfilled it for us.
There's so much talk in the HRM about sin is the transgression of the law. I've never heard one of them mention Romans 14:23-
But the one who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
Not saying I have the perfect interpretation of this verse. Just saying I've been looking into this movement for 3 years (bc a fellow coworker vehemently defends it's doctrines) and I've never seen any comment on this
Edit:spelling error
Concerning Matthew 5:18, I have been curious of this for a while now. If the Law (the Mosaic covenant) is still in effect in its entirety, exactly as Jesus stated it (“the Law”), and not an iota and not a dot has changed, should we still be practicing Leviticus 4 and Leviticus 16 (sacrifices and offerings for sin and the Day of Atonement)? If Jesus, as Hebrews 9 states, entered once and for all into the holy places by His own blood to purify and redeem those who believe on Him, would it be appropriate to still offer the blood of animals for our sins today? Of course there is no temple today as God purposefully removed it, but if there still was one, would it be appropriate? If the answer is yes, I do not see how this is not blasphemous to the very finished work of Christ on the cross and what He accomplished as stated in Hebrews 9. If the answer is no, then this would seem quite a larger change than an iota or dot to the very Law that is being claimed is still in effect from Matthew 5:18.
I am hoping someone might be able to answer would it be appropriate to continue to practice Leviticus 4 & 16 (if it were possible) while remaining in the text of Matthew 5:18 and in the context that the Law (the entirety of it as it is a whole unit) has not changed.
You will find the answers to your hypothetical question in Romans, especially chapters 6 and 7, and in Hebrews, as you mentioned, and especially this passage from chapter 10:
"[10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
[11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
[12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
[13] From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
[15] Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
[16] This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
[17] And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
[18] Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin."
In summary, Romans says that those that are in Christ are both no longer under the law and are dead to sin. Hebrews says that by the once for all offering of the body of Jesus Christ, God has perfected us forever. So obviously these "hebrew roots" doctrines are deception and error.
Romans 2:12 Strong's lexicon "All who sin apart from the Law will also perish apart from the Law, and all who sin under the Law will be judged by the Law." Paul is hard to understand.
Not hard to understand at all when you read more than a single verse:
Romans 2:10-16
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
My inlaws and some of my friends have gone HBR. This is adding to and expanding my studies. So helpful.
Where did you land in your studies?
Where is your family at now in their faith?
Technically though Mike Jesus first publicly proclaims he is the Messiah to the GENTILE Woman at the well as a foreshadowing of what is to come and then tarries in Samaria for a few days before embarking on to the rest of his ministry...
Just a friendly bit of observation with all love and kindness Mike 🤗 God bless you and yours and mahalo for your ministry.
God is great and I thank him for your preaching wisdom truth love and kindness.
So, we don't do the Laws anymore, that sounds fun! Besides, it is too difficult to follow, never mind "Everything is possible with God or I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
The Gospels have two commandmentss and 1048 commands and instructions. The difference is the sacrifice is finished once and for all. We haven't a license to sin because GOD chastens the ones HE loves on this earth even onto death if necessary. HE loses none that the FATHER draws to the SON.
you don't _'do'_ the Laws anymore?
so your children can steal and lie and your spouse can cheat now? - that isn't wise nor Christian.
Great video Mike. As an ex-Seventh Day Adventist these subjects are always coming up between me and my SDA family so this was very helpful. One question though, In Matthew 5:19 where he says “who ever breaks one of the least of these will be least/ whoever does them will be great.” Do you think Jesus said this because it was the beginning of his ministry and it would be approximately three years “UNTIL” “EVERYTHING” would be fulfilled on the cross? This is the “context” that I’m seeing here. Thanks again.
I think that Jesus is saying that the Law of Moses consists of 613 laws and anyone who obeys the whole lot will be great and those who miss that 100% level of perfection aren't doing too well. The truth is that no one can hope to keep all 613 laws which is why we need a saviour. The Law cannot save. Only Jesus can save because He has done it all on our behalf.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
everything hasn't been fulfilled - there is still sin and we are still stuck on earth, waiting for Christ.
do you believe Christ lied to us in John 14:15, Javier?
today is just as important to keep as the other 9 Commandments are - or did you abandon Them as well?
*Happy Sabbath!!!*
i pray you give our Creator and Saviour a chance, Sir.
Great stuff. When you go to all of Scripture, the Hebrew roots position just can’t incorporate it.
Thanks! And thanks for putting up videos dealing with this topic as well.
I agree with your comment. Initially, it makes perfect sense but eventually, the All-Suffiency of Christ seems to become hijacked and we no longer trust in His finished work alone. It tends to become Jesus + works. That's my take-away from being involved in this movement. I felt I was losing sight of Jesus so backed away. However, I do find tremendous joy and value in celebrating the Feasts of Lord. They contain a level of spiritual meaning that is simply not to be found in the celebration of Easter and Christmas. These 'Christian' events are so linked with secular celebrations that it's very difficult to stay focused, whereas the biblical Feast Days are solely focused on God.
TRY ME!
What you fail to see is THEY think the same of YOUR position.
Matthew 5:17-19
Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@@marydetray6776 Mike spent like a quarter of the video on this section of scripture.
Some scripture to consider
(Eze 36:26-27 KJV) " 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them."
(Jer 31:31-33 KJV) "31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people."
New covenant , what is written on your Heart ?
Tom
Didn't they say that there are things that happened they didn't write down.
God said he would give us a new heart.
The term "fulfill" in Matt 5:17 is defined by Thayer's Greek Lexicon in that passage as "to cause God's will (as made known in the law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the prophets) to receive fulfilment": Did you get that? It doesn't mean to abolish, but to fulfill within us in the way God originally intended for it to be ingrained within us as the prophet Jeremiah wrote was to one day come, and has now passed. How wonderful is that!?
Thank you so much for these videos! I have been able to use them as a resource to share with others and as a spring board for my own study.
Jovanna and Friends ! Thank you for sharing!!!
Glad to hear a church that believes in Once Saved Always Saved. I’m S. Baptist in denomination so I heard that a lot and believe it. God bless you faithful pastors and teachers.
Torah is living under Gods righteous instructions...Torah was from the beginning. People get caught up in the 5 books of Moses...which by default is indeed Torah but the difference in understanding David and Paul is to make a distinction between the Book of the Covenant and the Book of the Law...both are righteous. Only the Book of the Law was imposed for transgression until the time of reformation...until seed come...Shiloh...it was a concession to death after the golden calf breech. Exodus 19:5 through Exodus 24:11 is the blood ratified Covenant of Promise confirmed with a covenant confirming meal. Jesus/Yeshua brings us back to that original covenant. That's all we have to do...everything after 24:11 was imposed...It wasn't blood ratified and it wasn't agreed to and there was no covenant confirming meal...its not a part of the Covenant of Promise...see if you make that distinction the Torah Roots movement would understand they are partly right...more so than the Christian. Messianic Judaism however is dabbling in cultish religion not inspired by God. Just to clarify...the Book of the Covenant was INSIDE the ark...the Book of the Law was strapped (like bondage) to the OUTSIDE of the ark as a "witness against them." So it seems we should be walking in that Covenant of Promise which is the Ten Commandments, Sabbath, Feast Days and Dietary Laws...but not the Book of the Law which is after Exodus 24:11...If you can dig deep enough to better understand Pauls teaching becomes so much clearer and less contradicting...Also are understanding of the word Gentile. The gentiles in general are the Lost Sheep of the house of Israel...not necessarily heathens and pagans...though as many of them are welcome...but it is about Israel...Biblical Israel...not those who say they but are not...Rothschilds brought about the State of Israel...not God...when God does it...we all will know...and we all (believers/Israel) will have access to the land...
@InLivingWater So refreshing to read a comment from someone who gets it. I learned from Torah to the Tribes videos. I'll be celebrating Feast of Tabernacles with them in Oregon this year.
@@michelemoneywell5474 AWESOME! Blessings! I wish I could make it up there!
QWM YSHRAL!
HLLWYHWH and AMN!
@@InLivingWater I learned more Old Testament doctrine from "Raiders of the Lost Ark" than I did from your fanciful lesson.
@@warnerchandler9826 killer!
I truly do enjoy the Discipleship that you share with us. As a Pastor myself I have a deep desire to preach discipleship, nearly every time I prepare a sermon on Christian Discipleship the Lord moves me to preach Evangelism, to Preach Christ crucified and risen, to preach the Grace of God. We each have a calling, this must be mine. God bless you Pastor!
Have to have some one to disciple! The two go hand in hand.
do you believe the Lord's day is still today, the 7th day Sabbath?
Yahweh said " if you love me, you'll obey my commandments " 😇
That is just ONE of the many things he has to try to dance around
@@scottisnotfromhere6553 you call it dancing around? How is that? Michael used scripture in context and straight foward.
@Golden Arm thank you
If anyone of you really want Truth you have to search for it, advice dont go to church, they have some of the truth, but half the truth is still a lie 💯📖 facts are that the Torah is part of the new covenant, look up Jeremiah 31:33 in the Hebrew, book of Hebrews quotes that very scripture, Messiah himself said heaven and earth would pass before anything perished from the Torah Mathew 5:17-20, Messiah kept the Torah perfectly and said follow Me i have laid before you the perfect example, sadly people want to take away from the Father's perfect Torah, dont fall for it, NO ONE has the authority to do so , not even the Son that's why he said I do nothing of myself, of course we don't keep the Torah to earn salvation, it is the Father's instructions and will for our lives, we can only be justified through the Blood of Messiah Yeshua , but do we continue in sin that grace may abound GOD FORBID Romans 6:1-2, do we make void the Torah through faith GOD FORBID we ESTABLISH the Torah Romans 3:31, the whole point of the Torah is to point out sin, if you get rid of it we no longer are aware of these sins the Torah points out, may YAH bless you all 🙏💯♥️☝️📖
@Golden Arm this is a lot of misunderstanding of the scripture, Messiah raised the bar on the Torah didn't replace or get rid of anything, if the Torah is Truly in your heart it should easily be in your actions, if you don't have the will to keep Torah your heart is yet to be circumcised 💯♥️📖
Another thing to consider is that the Law is not just for the Jews...its for all 12 tribes of Israel. You have to make a distinction to understand the Word. The Mystery of Romans 7 for instance...Paul is talking to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...GENTILES! When we become believers we are grafted into Israel...You say you love the Old Testament...remember the two sticks of Ezekiel...God is going to bring the two houses back together again...to become ONE...One fold, one House...One Bride...ISRAEL!
If you were covering Jesus' Words in Matthew I would hope you would have brought up Matthew 23 as well. I really struggle with seeing how Jesus commanded His disciples to obey whatever was read in Moses seat and then in Matthew 28 telling them to teach their disciples in all the nations whatever He commanded them.
Isaiah 42
42:14 "For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant.
42:15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools.
42:16 I will lead the blind by ways they have not known, along unfamiliar paths I will guide them; I will turn the darkness into light before them and make the rough places smooth. These are the things I will do; I will not forsake them.
42:17 But those who trust in idols, who say to images, 'You are our gods,' will be turned back in utter shame.
Mike, I am truely grateful for what you do and your ministry. I'm still new here, I've only found you recently ... but I enjoy detailed explanations. I can tell you put a lot of effort in your preparations. Keep it up! Thanks for this!
I'm still new to his channel also. Maybe a month . Haven't watched many videos of his yet. I'm on a tonne of other channels though too lol 😂😂
@@timsharpe6652 that's wonderful ... let's keep learning!
@@EnglishwithMrFinn Unfortunately, what you are "learning" from Pastor Mike is FALSE! Please watch the following RUclips video, entitled: *_Video 6: "Throwing the Baby (the Law) Out with the Bathwater!"_*
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
What Paul says in Gal 3:23 is that the sacrificial and ritual ordinances were given to make ppl aware of their tendency for sin. Paul isn't saying God's laws are obsolete at all, but he is saying the sacrificial system and ritual ordinances were made obsolete since Jesus' sacrifice meant there was no need for a temporary reminder anymore.
Galatians 3: 23 says no such thing!
"But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed."
So what is this "temporary reminder?" What is the "tendency to sin?"
Was the purpose of Jesus' death as in Galatians 3: 1 "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" simply to be a "permanent reminder of man's tendency to sin?"
You are way out of scripture with that interpretation and comment.
Mike, I subbed! I really enjoy hearing you explain things&nicely
Not in a condescending way!
Thanks brother
Apart from the fact he is wrong!
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Every time I seen this guy on RUclips for some reason I don’t entertain him! But after giving him a ear his teaching is almost two edged sharp and very sound!
Dr Brown did a short video on this. It's good that you did a more in depth live stream on it. He didn't say anything about the Hebrew roots movement. I love your work.
Daniel's 70 year prophecy gives us insight into what law was done away with, and it was a punishment given because of transgressions, law is eternal, punishments are not, and what was to stop is the day by day performances.
It is tricky to say the least. Any teachings given before Jesus death and resurrection are technically old covenant teachings therefore Jesus teachings could be viewed as non binding.
cyberlizard That isn't true at all. The New Covenant is established on better promises(eternal life), not a different set of rules(Heb 8:6). Isaiah was also inspired by the Spirit to write that the Messiah would exalt the law(Isa 42:21). This alone proves anyone perpetrating a false gospel about Jesus dissolving the law a liar, for the Bible repeatedly teaches God shows absolutely no partiality.
Matthew 5 talks about how he didn’t abolish but confirmed the prophets, & none will be abolished till all be fulfilled. Then talks practically keeping the law & not relaxing any commands 😭 I’m gonna watch all your vids on this but I’d love to discuss these verses with you. I appreciate your heart for the gospel Mike & you give good perspective on the scriptures 🙏❤️
I am curious about something you have said. You are addressing “the Law” in the correct and wholesome way as it is used in this passage (i.e., it is either all of it, or none of it, but is not taken in parts). Either all of it is fulfilled, or none of it is. As Jesus says, not even the smallest part will pass, until all is accomplished. I have never seen any allowance in the Torah for atonement of sin being done once for all by the blood of the Son of God. It is always by the blood of animals. Do you accept? Jesus’s atoning blood for your sin? If so, how is that not a change? I have poured over the Torah many times and atonement for sin in the way Jesus’s blood is applied is nowhere in there, hence the animal sacrifices. It is really just that straightforward. If none of it changed, then you are not allowed to accept his blood for the atonement of your sin and must instead depend on the blood of an animal that has not been sacrificed on behalf of Israel for over 1900 years. If you can see the major issue here on what I would consider the most straightforward part of this passage, then please consider these passages, when considering “all is accomplished” (notes I have made previously that I copied and pasted here).
What does “all” mean here? What does “all” mean in these verses? What is the context of accomplished?
Luke 18:31
31 And taking the twelve, he said to them, “See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written about the Son of Man by the prophets will be accomplished.
- Does “everything” include Christ returning for his bride as in Revelation? There is always a context.
- “all” in Matt 5:18 is the same Greek word we have here for “everything” (g3956. πᾶς pas).
Luke 21:22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill ALL that is written.
John 19:28
28 After this, Jesus, knowing that ALL was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.”
John 19:30
30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
Luke 9:30-31
30 And behold, two men were talking with him, Moses and Elijah, 31 who appeared in glory and spoke of his departure, which he was about to accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luke 12:50
50 I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished!
Does all in Matt 5:18 mean all? Clearly no.
@@miketisdale7341 Christs sacrifice wasn’t his literal blood on an altar it was his obedience to the Father & laying his life down for the sheep. You’re taking his sacrificial life death & resurrection literal in comparing it to the Torah & the sacrificial system when even the disciples didn’t see it as that. His sacrifice does not go against the Torah & prophets at all, his life, death & justification of sinners is foretold in the Torah & prophets.
@@aaronshipp8766 I am not just speaking literally. But nonetheless, it seems like you are saying that if you had the option (temple, altar, and all else required), you would seek and accept atonement from two avenues for your sin (whether you want to divide them physically and figuratively or not), correct?
@@miketisdale7341 your argument doesn’t make sense because you aren’t clearly addressing Matt. 5:18. Just cause the context of other verses with a Greek word can mean something different when it says all doesn’t mean that is what Matt. 5:18 is saying. All pertains to the specific set of verses that are being pointed to in the Tanakh in the context of the situation. I simply suggest that based on the context of Matt 5:18 being about all the things in the law and prophets coming to pass (not specifically about what may be written about Yeshua only which is what some of the verses u mentioned are about ) which points to all prophecy being fulfilled in what is written in them. It’s fine if you disagree but it’s be better if you directly speak on your understanding of the context of Matt 5:18 n not just point to other verses with different context n try to say “all” is clearly not about all the Torah and prophets.
@@aaronshipp8766 as is the nature of communicating over text :-). My apologies for not pointing to my understanding from the questions I asked and the verses I pointed to. My understanding is that “all“ does not mean everything written of Christ prophetically, old or new covenant. In my view, “all“ is referring to the very purpose that God the Son came and dwelt among us for. As is seen in the use of “all” and “everything” in the verses I provided as examples, “all” rarely means “all” as we tend to think of it as. He accomplished “all” in Matthew 5:18 when He said on the cross “it is finished” and accomplished the purpose He came for (just has He Himself states numerous times). This view allows me to Biblically accept and receive His atonement for sin by my faith in His accomplished work and not from animal sacrifices. There is no provision in Torah for atonement for sin apart from animal sacrifice (if you assume not a jot has changed), and clearly Jesus’s sacrifice does this very thing once and for all (assuming we are comparing old and new covenants and contrasting Jesus’s atonement with that of the provision of animal sacrifice, which is the very thing the writer of Hebrews does). Of course Jesus is foretold of in the Torah, but that does not mean you are allowed to accept atonement for sin in any other way than as is clearly prescribed in Torah (animal sacrifice) over and over and over. It is disingenuous to sweep away this glaring point of a change regarding atonement of sin by simply saying that Jesus is foretold of in the Torah and prophets. I am not saying that what Christ accomplished goes against the Torah. I am saying that it replaces how sin was a toned for, which is a huge change and passing away.
This is why I asked you that if you had a temple, a consecrated altar, and a priesthood if you would seek atonement for your sin BOTH in the sacrifice of an animal as well as in Christ’s once for all atoning sacrifice. This is ultimately what I am hoping to understand from you as I do not see how it can be any other way if you assert that nothing has changed in the commands we are to follow. Please let me know and thank you.
Mike I'm thankful you did this series and understand you took a lot of flack
but it was for truth and the Gospel
Good on you bro
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Mike, I really appreciate the depth and clarity you bring to your explanations. There are very few people I truly enjoy listening to when it comes to discussions about religion, but you do an exceptional job. Even though we may not align on every belief, you have a way of helping me understand your perspective. And for topics like this, where we do agree, your insights are incredibly uplifting and help strengthen my own convictions. Thank you for the important work you do-it's truly impactful.
I’m just grateful someone is serving the lord and praying at this point in the game. I’m getting where I can care less about what flavor believer they are this world is wicked
Lord means Ba'al in Hebrew, the church getting you to worship Ba'al.
Here is the thing, the difference between the Christian and the Hebrew Roots, followers of Yahusha.
The Natsarene(Hebrew roots) follow the teachings of Yahusha.
The Christian follows the teaching of the church.
That is the difference. You would expect that should be the same as they are both based on the teachings of the Bible. Wrong!
The Natsarene does follow the teaching of Messiah Yahusha. And the Christian follows the teaching of Jesus/church.
What is the difference? Scripture says we must follow the example of our Messiah.
1Pe 2:21 For to this you were called, because Messiah also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps,
And what did our Hebrew Messiah of the Bible do? He kept the Commands of Moses. So then we should too? That is what the Word of the Father says!
Here is the kicker, the church say they follow the Bible, But they don’t follow the teaching and example of our Hebrew Messiah from the Bible.
Let us look at it from another angle. What does our Father say about Himself? He says HE NEVER CHANGES!
Mal 3:6 “For I am יהוה, I shall not change, and you, O sons of Ya‛aqoḇ, shall not come to an end.
He says, He will not changes what He said NOR His Covenant(10 commandments)!
Psa 89:34 “I shall not profane My covenant, Neither would I change what has gone out from My lips.
Our Father is UNCHANGEABLE!
Heb 6:17 In this way Elohim, resolving to show even more clearly to the heirs of promise the unchangeableness of His purpose, confirmed it by an oath,
There is NO shadow of change in Him!
Jas 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning.
He also said, His WORD may not be changed at all!(Rev 22:18&19)
Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.
AND He said the ALL Scripture applies:
2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by Elohim and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for setting straight, for instruction in righteousness,
2Ti 3:17 that the man of Elohim might be fitted, equipped for every good work.
So according to the Word of our Heavenly Father, the conclusion is….
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
So how exactly did the church get it right to change the Father and Son’s Name?
How did they change the Sabbath?
How did they change and got rid of the Scriptural feasts?
How did unclean food suddenly become clean?
How did circumcision disappear?
Because they are servant of the one they obey(and that is not the Father nor Messiah):
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
And they do NOT obey The Father Yahuah nor the Son Yahusha. If they did really Love Him, they would …..
Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
17:25 Interesting that you bring that up Mike, that sojourners were not required to keep the whole law. in a sense, you're absolutely right. What you might have not noticed, however, is the particular laws assigned to the sojourners in the Torah: Sexual immorality, Idolatry, things offered to idols, from consuming animals that die of themselves, from consuming blood, the sabbath, and also to hear the law on the year of release so they could learn it and do it. Hmmm, where have I heard those things mentioned before? *snap* that's right! Acts 15:20-21! So that must mean that James didn't just pull those commandments out of the air and regarded the gentile converts as sojourners! Furthermore, the Septuagint reads in Exodus 12:48 and 49 a little differently than the masoretic, calling them "Converts" not sojourners. What this tells us is that at the time of the translation of the Torah into Greek, the translators saw sojourners as converts. What were(are) the gentiles coming into the faith then? Converts. Is it any wonder then that James applied the Laws initially applied to converts to the gentile converts? No. What is curious then is why the other component of conversion laid out in Exodus 12:48 is the very issue being argued in Acts 15 and the book of Galatians. According to the plain reading of the text, circumcision was necessary to complete the conversion, in addition to keeping passover. It's also curious how Jesus is described as our passover lamb? Perhaps there's a good reason why placing your faith in Jesus, just as the mixed multitude of others in ADDITION to the descendants of Jacob placed their faith in God and kept the first Passover. I wonder if Paul and Barnabas were arguing for the Holy Spirit being the evidence of the circumcision made without hands prophesied in Deuteronomy 30:6??? When we look at the records left by our spiritual forefathers like the Gospels and Acts, or the guidance provided by the epistles, we have to think about THEIR context. Their context was a deeper and greater knowledge and understanding of the Torah, Writings, and the Prophets than you, me, or ten others like us combined because they learned directly at the feet of the Author of all of it for three years. Paul had tremendous scholastic accolades as well. We also have to understand that every word, sentence, chapter, and book was chosen carefully when the New Testament was being first written over decades, and then put together. It's clear that it is supplemental to the Torah, Writings, and the Prophets and was never meant to be a stand alone for the formation of doctrine. Yet I've heard you differentiate over and over again between us and the Israelites to whom the scriptures were given and placing the emphasis for us in the New Testament alone. I don't fault you for not looking at things this way. After a manner, denominational and otherwise mainstream "orthodoxy" precludes you from ever even asking these questions. Why? Because the "orthodoxy" already has it all figured out and it is at least packaged convincingly, so therefore there's no need to pursue any further inquiry into the matter.
If Noah was aware of clean and unclean animals, wouldnt that mean that it was not just part of the Law of Moses for Israel, but for all Humanity?
Yes, the Law was established at creation and orally passed down through the generations until it was written by Moses at Mount Sinai. Everyone. starting from Adam and Eve, obeyed it.
@@rachelanne2968 so Adam and Eve observed the Feast of Tabernacles, for example? So they lived in booths for seven days so “that your generations may know that I made the people of Israel dwell in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt”? I wonder if they were confused by any of that.
Luckily we do not have to speculate like this but can simply trust the word of God!
Deuteronomy 5:3
3 Not with our fathers did the LORD make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today.
@@miketisdale7341 The Torah and the Covenant are two separate things : if they were the same thing, why did Noah ( Genesis 7:2-3, 8-9 and 8:20 ) , Lot ( Genesis 19:3 ) and Abraham ( 26:4-5 ) obeyed the Torah centuries before the exodus ? The Torah was passed down orally from Adam and Eve to their descendants until it was given to Moses in its written form at Mount Sinai. Hope it helps =)
@@rachelanne2968 Maybe a question or two further might help me understand more fully the distinction you are making. 1) Can you elaborate on how you define Torah. The ten commandments, the 613 given to Israel, etc? 2) As a continuation and further clarification of #1, you said the Law was established at creation and passed down orally. Was the Feast of Tabernacles a part of what Adam and Eve had and passed down orally? 3) You said that Noah, Lot, and Abraham kept Torah. I will ask more of this given your clarifications from #1&2 if you do not mind. Thank you in advance!
@@miketisdale7341 Before replying, I want to ask you a question : Who is Israel, according to the Scriptures ?
It does not say "imposed until the time of reformation"
22:53
It says
"a covering until the time of reformation"
But we all agree that Messiah is now the covering, no one is arguing that Torah is our covering, so that didn't really address anything. Besides, all of that is in a context of God's New Covenant with Judah and Israel, but Mike said we are not to pretend that we are Israel.
On your attempt to disprove Hebrew Roots, you've actually turned me to it lol. Thank you for sharing this information.
I like them too I don’t agree with all they teach but I can’ finger point at any religion I don’t think any of us have it right. I think when we get to heaven the 12 apostles may sit us all down our first yr there and correct all our doctrine . Like heavens bible school. Maybe on the rare event we get something right they’ll hand us gold stars like we’re in kindergarten.
@@dawnlowery2398 That would be so awesome. I'm using your thought lol.
Easy proof God sometimes changes laws for us humans to follow depending on where in time we are:
Genesis 9 and its first few verses describe God allowing Noah to begin to eat animals. This was not allowed prior to the flood.
God doesn't change, but we are not the ones to interpret what he deems clean and unclean, as mentioned in Peter. If the time comes and he says stop, then we should stop, but according to the Scriptures all animals were made clean to eat in this church age.
It's like a speed limit law. The law may say "follow the speed limit" but what that speed limit is may change depending on the need in a certain area, like a school or on a highway. The law stays the same but the application changes as you move around.
God doesn't change, he sometimes just has laws for a certain time and certain people and He changes those rules as needed. Maybe there's a spiritual ramification of the unclean animals during the days of Isreal that was made right during the resurrection. Who are we to know or question God on his reasons?
Mike, please invite Lex Meyer, Rob Skiba or Zack Bauer on your channel or go onto their channels to have a brotherly and intelligent discussion so we as viewers and believers who are seeing both sides can have a better understanding!
On abolish vs fulfill. Say you've been given an assignment that you have to finish before you're allowed to turn it in. Maybe there's a certain number of hours of research you have to do, or a certain number of pages you have to write before the professor will accept it. Even if you do the required hours of research and write the required number of pages, you may do a poor job, but I'm not dealing with that, I'm dealing with meeting the requirements necessary to even submit the assignment. Doing those necessary requirements is a fulfillment. Now let's say that before you submit the assignment, the professor abolishes it. In that instance, you wouldn't submit your work, and any work you've done would be meaningless. In both cases, fulfilling and abolishing, you no longer have anything to do. Now, if Jesus fulfills the law, it's like He completed all the requirements for the augment and turned it on on your behalf. The cool thing about that is He turns in a perfectly fine assignment for you, instead of the certain you would have done which would have gotten an F. If the law were abolished, then we wouldn't even be able to get an F on the assignment. So, of course Jesus didn't abolish the law, that would be counterproductive to Him reconciling is to Him. He did fulfill the requirements of the law for us and He did it perfectly. But either through fulfillment or abolishment, the law isn't something we have to worry with. Fortunately, it's been fulfilled. Now, I would also point out that at the time of Jesus giving the Sermon on the Mount, the law hands yet been fulfilled, that only happened after He was crucified. So, even looking at just that prob of scripture, there were arguments one can make against the Hebrew Roots movement.
2Timothy, (I think, if I remember correctly), states that the law is NOT for the righteous, we know the righteous ARE those who are in Christ, but the law is for the unrighteous, to bring them to Christ.
remnant warrior
Galatians 3:24-26 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
@@RealSnail3D so now you have faith, and forget everything you learned in school??
"But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that my efforts for you may have been in vain." Galatians 4:9-11.
"When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses, having canceled the debt ascribed to us in the decrees that stood against us. He took it away, nailing it to the cross!" Colossians 2:13-14.
"In speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." Hebrews 8:13.
"For the promise that Abraham would be heir of the world was not made to him and his descendants through the Law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith." Romans 5:13.
What is your point ?
How about the thing that the Sabbath was a thing from day one, long before Moses, and even in Revelation...
Can I ask you to show me a verse in Genesis that shows God commanding Sabbath Keeping prior to Moses, or a verse that shows that anyone prior to Moses kept the Sabbath??
@@smashleyscott8272 Doesn't look like Rean is going to answer, so here is one answer. Actually it was day 7, Genesis 2:2-3. I believe the next time it is mentioned, is in Exodus 20:10. Whether anyone prior to Moses except G-d kept it, is not written. It also depends on how one interprets sanctify-make holy is one interpretation.
@@smashleyscott8272 Ex 16 mentions the sabbath before it was given at mount Sinai. All 10 commandments where spoke of before mount Sinai, and Noah knew what animals where clean and unclean, Cain and Abel knew how and what to sacrifice. How can that be?
Mike. I love your work on the NAR and Calvinism. I appreciate a non-cessationist/non-Calvinist critique of the NAR. I have to say I disagree with you on this one. I would love to see you bring on David Wilber for a discussion sometime. I think you would find him to be a very gracious and fair minded advocate of the Torah-observant movement.
I love this teaching. I’ve watched it 4 times already. Just rewatched it again and took notes. THANK YOU Mike.
I think you are missing a very key point to Matthew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. “Till heaven and earth pass away”, where do we see these words spoken again? Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. “ for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.” Therefore the law is still relevant today and is not fulfilled until Christs judgement. People need to test everything against the scriptures and not because man tells them what to think and believe.
@@rocco9611 we need to stop listening to these indoctrinated false teachers
I read this verse today, and it is interesting how Peter phrases it--
"No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
He says the Jewish believers in Messiah are saved just as the Gentile believers are-- "by the grace of our Lord Jesus." This means that Torah doesn't save Jewish believers either.
This means that THEY TOO are freed from and dead to the Law and are made alive to Christ.
Thank you so much Mike for the wonderful biblical teaching...ur a blessing...I keep learning a lot from ur teaching...
I have a question. I have been listening to some Hebrew Roots teachings, were we not grafted onto the tree that is Israel? so can we not view the Law as a way to live after we have been saved? The Law was given to Israel AFTER they were saved from their bondage, not as a means of their salvation but as a guideline for living righteously
Excellent!!! This totally applies to Seventh-day Adventism as well, which I grew up in.
Lori Bordessa the thing that gets me with 7th day Adventism is the whole Ellen G White thing and the doctrine of sinless perfection. I almost got into it but then I decided otherwise
Becky Sampson exactly. Ellen G White was a false prophet who butchered the gospel of Jesus Christ and tried to shove people back under an old covenant that was never intended for them but for Israel.
And Saturday sabbath keeping is their pet OC law and the dividing line between them (“the Remnant” as they believe themselves to be) and the rest of the world. It’s all about the sabbath. Google SDA and “The National Sunday Law”. It’s hard for them to give up this SDA imperative, since even if they wanted to if they go to a “Sunday church”, they’re afraid they’re going to get the Mark of the Beast because that’s what they’ve been taught. There’s more.... I’ve gone in circles with many on FB and most can rarely tell me what the gospel is. 😢 Their eschatology is focused on Saturday as Sabbath. And thus their gospel.
Lori Bordessa I have noticed this as well. It’s crazy how this Hebrew roots movement has infiltrated many denominations. I know seventh day Adventist was long before the HRM but still! The issue I see is that if your core doctrine is incorrect, you may have a gospel that cannot save you. If you believe that you must observe the law to enter heaven, you believe in a works based salvation which is inherently incorrect. It’s really sad to see people refuse to challenge their viewpoint and seek the truth. I definitely understand what you’re saying and agree with you.
Becky Sampson amen.
The Lord through Paul’s letter to the Galatians was very clear on this- and Galatians is one of those books SDAs and HRM need to read. We need to pray for those we know in it. The Holy Spirit has to open their eyes to the truth.
“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel- not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9 ESV
The wording is strong- “accursed”.
And later with the same thought in mind Paul says he wishes they would emasculate themselves. This false gospel stuff is serious. It’s mislead many.
Lori Bordessa yeah no kidding. I’m in an online Christian community where this is heavily debated! It’s really weird how people come to this conclusion...if they would put down their preconceived notions they’d see!
If you truly want to have a better understanding of what these guys are talking about, this is one of the best teachings I can think of that has a privides a great background of their thinking, prior to getting into the law. In order to under stand their view God's law and grace you need to understand who you are in the bible. Who Jesus came for? More about the old testiment. And in turn who will have a better understanding of Jesus's teachings and Paul's writings.
Also everyone is commenting how Jesus's law is greater then the "Law of Moses" but you have to remember that the Law of Moses is really the Law of GOD. In the bible it says that God's Law is PERFECT in the old testament and to be used for doctrine and reproof in the New testament. Because Jesus is the Law. He is the word made flesh. Just saying you can't contradict the bible. Love you all hope you actually watch this video and the others I've commented with and comment back :)
Jim Staley- Identity Crisis
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I started to watch this video then i googled Jim Staley and found out he was caught up in stealing money from elderly investors in his church. It is really hard to listen to a man that was so manipulated by the forces of evil. I hope this comes in peace, guard your heart.
Mike, you are being too gentle toward this movement. These "teachers" are unsettling poor old grandmas and other vulnerable Christians and the Scripture has this to say about them: "I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves." (Gal. 5:12) The epistle to the Galatians deals with exactly this issue: the issue of Judaizers.
It also says let them be accursed and that's just for wanting circumcision
They full and well understand what they're doing they hate Jesus
Look at the books of comments they write what do they refuse to write
JESUS CHRIST GOD AND HOLY SPIRIT
Its clear who they serve
And the ones that are blinded among them that may be saved one day they need to repent
I hit up Hebrew roots rapture and other false doctrine videos daily to let anyone in there know if they have eyes to see they'll see my comment I pray
But as a whole they arent of us we arent to have fellowship or bid them Godspeed
They need to repent
And if we were stern they would get violent and we know it they hate Christ
It's clear as day and it's a salvation issue
It's what paul spoke about the judaizers of the faith
Absolutely apostate and abhorrent
The words to eternal life are Jesus's commands and teachings. Some may say we don’t have to keep the Sabbath day, feast days or the dietary laws because they were part of the Law of Moses, but the Law of Moses consisted of the law of animal sacrifices, not the Ten Commandments which were given to Moses directly from God or the feast days and dietary laws. If we believe that in order to be saved we must obey Jesus, we can find before Jesus came to Earth and dwelt with man, he was Melchisedec King of Salem who Abraham honored with a tenth of his possessions, the great I AM who appeared to Moses, and Jehovah Almighty who gave Moses the Ten Commandments and led the children of Israel out of Egypt.
Hebrews 7:1-3 KJV
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; [2] To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; [3] Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
These first few verses in Hebrews 7 show that Melchisedec met Abraham back in Genesis 14:18-20 KJV: “18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all,” and later was made like unto the Son of God. We know that Melchisedec is without father, mother, descent, having neither beginning of days or end of life and is an immortal priest. This person cannot be the Father because Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and the only one who has seen the Father. No man including Moses who God showed his backside to has seen the Father. Moses saw the back of Jehovah, who is Jesus. John 1:17-18 “[17] For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. [18] No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." No man who has ever lived on Earth, but Jesus, has immortality (1 Timothy 6:13-16 KJV). Only Jesus, the Son of God, fits the description of Melchisedec.
The second half of Hebrews 7 further elaborates how Jesus as the high priest of the order of Melchisedec, came to change and replace the old Levitical priesthood. The only change in the old and new covenant was the mediators. The mediator in the old covenant under the Levitical priesthood was Moses, the new mediator under the new covenant is Jesus. The Levitical priests oversaw the administration of the animal sacrifices for sin. Because the Messiah had not come, the Israelites needed a sin sacrifice so God would not kill them. The wages of sin is death, so the lambs, goats, bulls, turtledoves, ect. died in their place. This law was carnal and could never give anyone eternal life. Moses prophesied God will raise another prophet like him and they will listen to Him (Deuteronomy 18:15-19). Jesus is this prophet. At his resurrection and ascension to Heaven, he became our new mediator for the new covenant under Melchisedec which replaced the old covenant’s mediator under the Levitical priests. Hebrews 7:23-28 “[23] And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: [24] But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. [25] Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. [26] For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; [27] Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. [28] For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.”
Hebrews 10:1-13 KJV
[1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. [2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. [3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. [4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: [6] In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. [7] Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. [8] Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; [9] Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. [10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. [11] And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:[12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God; [13] From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
John 8:52-58 KJV
[52]Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. [53] Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? [54] Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: [55] Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. [56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it and was glad. [57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
Exodus 3:13-15 KJV
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? [14] And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. [15] And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
These two scriptures, John 8:52-58 and Exodus 3:13-15, establish that Jesus is the great I AM. Isaiah 12:2-3 establishes the fact that Jesus is Jehovah, our Messiah. Through believing in him and keeping his commandments, can we receive eternal salvation.
Isaiah 12:2-3 KJV
Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. [3] Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.
If you believe we must keep Jesus’s commands, then what Jesus (who is Jehovah, Melchisedec, the great I AM) commanded the children of Israel to do which was to keep his Sabbath, his feast days, and dietary laws we must do also. The Gentiles are grafted into holy olive tree which represents Jesus Christ alongside the natural branches which represent Israel. These laws are spiritual (not carnal like the law of animal sacrifice), and last forever (Psalm 111:7-8). The laws of God come from the Father and were given to his Son Jesus to preach to the world for eternal life. John 17:5-8 KJV “[5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. [6] I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. [7] Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. [8] For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.” When we obey Jesus, we are obeying the Father. The commands and teachings of Jesus all come from the Father. The only change in the covenant was the mediators. The mediator in the old covenant under the Levitical priesthood was Moses, the new mediator under the new covenant is Jesus. Since Jesus came in the volume of the book, what he commanded given to him by the Father in the old testament has not changed (John 6:30-47 KJV).
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Brothers and sisters , please read the message left by Jubilee Trumpet ; they are powerful words that comes not from Jubilee Trumpet , but the instructions left to us by the God of Israel . If we refuse to hear ( believe by taking action as Abraham did , that's faith ) the message , the words will judge you in the last day ( John 12:44-50 and Revelation 20:11-15 ) . Jesus Christ himself said this : (John 5:39-43 Search the scriptures ; for in them ye think ye have eternal life : and they are they which testify of me . And ye will not come to me , that ye might have life . I receive not honour from men . But I know you , that ye have not the love of God in you . I am come in my Father's name , and ye receive me not : if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive ) . Jesus Christ is the Word of God ( Revelation 19;13 ) , and from the beginning of the creation of man , he has given us the instructions of the Father , for eternal life : He is the tree of life , the bread of life , the water of life ; for all who will be Sons of the Father at the conclusion of the creation ( Revelation 21 ) . Jesus Christ came not in his own name ( Jehovah ) , but in the name of his Father ( Jesus ) ; that is why it states in Philippians 2:9-10 ( Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him , and given him a name which is above every name : That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow , of things in heaven , and things in earth , and things under the earth ; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD , to the glory of God the Father ) . Before Jesus ascended back to the Father , he told the disciples to teach all nations , baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son , and of the Holy Ghost ; but Peter made this statement in Acts 2:38 ; " Then Peter said unto them , Repent , and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost " . To baptize in the name of the Father , Son , and Holy Ghost is a title ; but in the name of Jesus identify the title . The Holy Ghost is the Comforter ; which the Father will send in Jesus Name ( John 14:26 But the Comforter , which is the Holy Ghost , whom the Father will send in my name , he shall teach you all things , and bring all things to your remembrance , whatsoever I have said unto you ) . Jehovah comes in name of the Father , and the Holy Ghost comes in the name of Jesus . Think about it ; do you think that the name of Jesus is above the Father ( John 10:29 My father , which gave them me , is greater than all ; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand ) ; also ( 1st Corinthians 15:24-28 Then cometh the end , when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God , even the Father ; when he shall put down all rule and all authority and power . For he must reign , till he hath put all enemies under his feet . The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death . For he hath put all things under his feet . But when he saith all things are put under him , it is manifest that he is excepted , which did put all things under him . And when all things shall be subdued unto him , then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him , that God may be all in all ) . A Godhead of two from everlasting to everlastng . The Holy Ghost/Spirit are the Angel/s , that stand in the presence of God , and deliver his word , the Holy Spirit ( John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth ; the flesh profiteth nothing : the words that I speak unto you , they are spirit , and they are life ) . In 1st John 5:7 , it stares : " For there are three that bear record in heaven , the Father , the Word , and the Holy Ghost : and these three are one " ; and in Revelation 1:1 , it identify who the three are ( Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ , which God gave unto him , to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass ; and he sent and signified it by his Angel unto his servant John ) . The three that bear record in heaven are : 1. God The Father , 2. The Word - Jesus Christ , 3. The Holy Ghost - The Angel/s ; who are the ministering spirits sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation ( Hebrews 1:14 ) . Shalom !
You are a great teacher.
“For this is the law and the prophets”
Thats what his whole summary of Gods law.
He didn’t change the fulness of Gods commands.
Pastor Mike:
In English, Hebrew, and Greek, it’s impossible to “new” something. New is only used as an adjective. If you COULD “new” something, in English the proper word would be “create”. Same in Hebrew…to “new” something is “b’riyah” (H1278), create. Thus, if the intent of Jer 31:31 was to bring forth a brand, spanking new, never before seen, covenant, the passage SHOULD have used the word “b’riyah”. Instead, Jer 31:31 uses the term “chadashah” (H2319)…the root word (verb) chadash plus the feminine ending to form the adjective that agrees with brit (covenant). That is, the Hebrew adjective, chadash (H2319), comes from the verb, chadash H2318, and is distinguish from the verb by the ending of agreement with the noun it modifies. The verb H2318 is defined as “to be new”, but in usage, is always renew, rebuild, restore, refresh, etc. A good example of this idea is the “new moon”. In Hebrew, the term is “chodesh” (H2320)…also derived from H2318, “to be new”. But, as we all know, the moon isn’t “created new” each month…it’s just seen again.
In Greek, with respect to covenants, it’s the same story. If the intent was a brand spanking new, never before seen, covenant, the term should have been “neos” (G3501). Instead, in the vast majority of cases, the word used is “kainos” (G2537)…new with respect to freshness…that is “refreshed”.
Thus, in sum, the idea is that it’s NOT a totally new covenant. How could it be totally new if not one “jot” or “tittle” changed (Mt 5:17,18)? Additionally, Messiah Yeshua goes on to state:
19 Whosoever therefore SHALL BREAK ONE OF THESE LEAST COMMANDMENTS, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mt 5:19)
So, where did Messiah Yeshua change subjects here? He’s still addressing the same jot and tittle subject. Obviously, there are consequences for NOT pursuing the Torah…the most severe consequence I already addressed in the discussion of Mt 7:21-23.
Shalom
You've cleared alot of things up for me Mike!! Thank you!! God Bless You
"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.” Hebrews 7:12
He said the law will be written on our hearts and in our minds.
Does that mean he wrote the 7th day Sabbath along with the rest like he did before ? The one ,Moses ,isreal ,all apostle s ,all city came together as one in book of a acts ,Paul and our savior king Jesus Christ kept ?
the disciple all that was done in Moses day was a foreshadow of a better covenant, a foreshadow of what's to come, The Messiah, Jesus Christ, He is our salvation and our Sabbath.
@@truthprevails1260 that theology sounds good ,but when you take the time yourself to read the Sabbath and about the Sabbath from the beginning of the Bible to the end of the Bible you will see it was never changed you also you also see Jesus Christ talking about it when he's referring to the end days pacifically calling it a Sabbath day,some things our black and. White do the homework yourself ,we have been fed a lot of lies its time to draw closer to our Lord .
the disciple Jesus, when talking about the ends days, in that particular passage, was referring to Judea, that was directly to the Jews in Judea, pray that your flight not be in the winter or on the Sabbath because He knew how they reacted to Him healing in the Sabbath and furthermore, forgiving sins on the Sabbath, He KNEW that even until the last day they would be the same, He NEVER mentioned that about the gentiles, however He is everyone's Sabbath, which means rest, in Him find your rest, and anything that would make one day unholy, will make any day unholy, and we are to NEVER to grieve the SPIRIT, treating everyday as the Sabbath, finding our rest in Jesus's righteousness daily. I have grieved over this, prayed and studied, and this is where I have been led, because He specifically said that those in Judea, flee to the mountains, to not even return for your coat, flee and pray that your flight not be in winter or on the Sabbath, He KNEW they would still be depending on the law and works for salvation. All the way until the very end. The gentiles are supposed to be the light to the Jews now, and God's power MUST be seen in our lives, enough to bring the Jews to jealousy. However, not ALL who say they are Jews, are truly Jews. Many get their doctrine directly from Babylon, buy there us a remnant there who know and see their deception. ALL we depend on relies on Jesus alone. Which produces good fruit by default. GRIEVING not the SPIRIT.
the disciple I love you brother and the gospel is the number one, most important thing to get right. That Jesus is God, from the beginning, manifest in flesh, suffering His blood for payment of ALL sin, and HE indeed raised Himself from death on the third day and He FOREVER lives in Glory, that whosoever trusts and believes this, and puts their faith for salvation in His righteousness alone, then indeed you are my brethren.
Was the law written for those who would only listen to “wordy laws and rituals” rather than believing that doing what is right and talking and following God would change their hearts to align them to love him and follow him and their thoughts, desires and actions would change to follow the 10 commandments naturally. I have only just read the Ten Commandments but since converting to Christianity last year from a new age back ground, everything brings me to Jesus and I now see and hear and know in very obvious ways (that I was blind to before) what is moral and what is immoral and I only want to do what is moral and right.
Thank you, Mike. Keep the lessons coming. You are a blessing. Have a blessed day. Praise Yeshua!
You said if we did a study of covenant and law of Moses they sound like the same and sometimes overlap. Exodus 34:28 tells me they are exactly the same. The Ten Commandments is the Covenant. I think where they may differ is in the case laws and the dietary laws. The dietary laws seem to come from nowhere actually - meaning there was no precedent for them.
BTW. You doing a great job. I did a study on the Sabbath, then Law, then Covenant during lockdown.
I appreciate the way you are handling the question, but understanding Covenant is probably the key to responding to these folk. Sorry if you have updated this study. It came across my recommended feed, so going through this series at the moment.
Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Isreal; After those days, saith YAH, I will put my Torah in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim and they shall be my people.
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While i was reading the book of acts the other day, Paul was running to a town to preach. He had his companion circumcised because they were preaching to the Jews. It seemed more like a cultural thing at that point and not an expectation to follow the Law by God. So I'm leaning, no the Jews are not required to keep the Law.
Please watch this video in entirety.
Specifically about circumcision start at 2:28
Jim Staley- identity crisis
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This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for doing this video!
Christ fulfilled the law without sin to show men that they can to if their heart is into it. Read what Paul says about it. All four gospels speaks of this. Paul says that they rejected christ so he went to the gentiles to provoke Jews into jealousy. It's always been by faith and grace from the beginning of Genesis to Revelation. The law let's us know not what to do that sins against God. Remember christ is God manifested in the flesh and he will not speak against himself
The Law of Moses was given to accomplish an end (a fulfillment), not to be the end in itself. It brings the son's of the law to the place of desperation where they are given the choice to receive or reject the Son of God, the righteous son, as their righteousness, no longer depending upon their own self-righteous, paltry and imperfect law-keeping. The Law accomplishes its purpose in that moment when it strips us of our self-reliance, thus preparing us with the humility and contrition to trust in God alone for our justification and His righteousness so that we come into His presence for fellowship which was our Father's planned end for us from the very beginning. Some prefer the journey over the destination.
The Hebrew meaning of TORAH is "teaching " not Law
@FireOfTheLord give me your email and I'll send you a screenshot. If you're professing to be Christian, that wasn't very nice to call me stupid
It seems to me that some in the Hebrew Roots movement want to ignore the epistles for the very reason that they're an Achilles heel to their reasoning