A Brit Judges New Wheelies...
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2023
- World of Tanks introduced a new like of British wheeled mediums in update 1.22! Here's a Brit's take on the AEC Armoured Car, Staghound Mk. III and FSV Scheme A!
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I think it’s a lot better for the game’s health that they come in under-balanced rather have over-powered
Shame it will probably take about 5-6 years for any buffs to come their way.
Without OP, how WG take money from players?
It's not balanced, they don't really have mobility
I think its a lot worse for the game's health that they come in as useless and you can only play the several years old lines most of the time. The chinese bz line is useless too, i bet they will ruin the new japanese heavies too. The only tech three that is useful and was added recently is the italian td line.
@@Loudnose it's cause of the wheel turning angle if they had at least 15 or 20 degrees they would be able to do more
I’ve found the 5-6-7 enjoyable to play, slightly different play style, a bit more cautious and the line isn’t over powered which is good
My oldest uncle drove the tier 6 tank (staghound/hummer) in 1948/1949 in the Dutch West Indies. So that has to be in my tank collection. Nice video Quickybaby
thank you for uncle's service, even though i assume hes a brit and im an american
@@bigtimemegaproductions he is Dutch. After WW2 ended in Europe lots of conscriptie young man where send to the Dutch Indies to fight the Jap, but they already surrended, so they came in a chaotic situation where indepence was declared and lots of European people who hardly survived the Jap camps where killed. It was tough but the most surprisingly was when after 40 years he went back to visit his fallen comrades on the Dutch graveyard he met his old opponents and there was a lot of respect and concept. He understands why they want to be independent, they understand that the Netherlands want to keep the situation as it was before WW2. And that the Dutch not only profit from the Dutch Indies but also invest a lot in infrastructure etc. As always the normal people have to fight the wars of politicians.
@@bigtimemegaproductionsMore likely Dutch.
I think with better camo and traverse speed, or I guess degrees of wheel turn to make tighter circles, and better terrain resistance they would be more pleasant to play and not overpowered but still lack an identity. Im going through the Staghound now, and the Cromwell is my most played tank. Glad you brought up that it does everything the cromwell does...worse.
One thing they really need to fix is the sparks from the tires. I don't know about you, but I have not seen rubber spark when moving around.
oh yes, agree!! Rubber and grass = sparks in WG logic 😂
Historically, these very considered to be "ligh" vehicles, the fact that they are classified in the game as "mediums" is somewhat strange.
Not when you take a look at the real-life AEC. The thing’s bloody huge.
I'm on the Staghound now, and definitely felt more competitive in the AEC.
Hopefully not only tier 10 but 8 and 9 as well. Your input when grinding those is valuable to me at least. Love hearing bout the strength and weaknesses about each vehicle. I may not always agree but that is what makes it great.
Give 'em hell on the battlefield!
AEC is similar to tier five T-34 with 57 mm gun - 112 mm pen vs 189 gold pen
no
I am at tier 7 and the 5 had a learning curve - then I decided to take the line up as a challenge. It is slowly getting better but you have to be a very cautious mid range sniper. I explained it to my friend as the Titanic trying to turn.
dont try to turn plan your route like a udes 03 back or forwards
Its a shame, as in real life the AEC, Saladin and Staghound were very nimble, for sone reason WG didn't bother to watch the hours of video footage of them driving, lazy addition to the game imo.
I agree 100%@@johnfarscape
Definitely true - @@dekksherton6824
If the historic ones could turn as tightly as they actually could in real life it would help, the Saladin has 4 turning wheels, and can pretty much turn in a circle, all of the British Armoured Recce Vehicles had to be manouverable enough to flt down tight countryside roads, they never would have had a wider turning circle than an oil tanker.
It’s hard to find that balance between having a few things better than most others and having too many things. This line gives us a reason to carry and shoot HE ammo again at least.
I really enjoyed the AEC and i m excited to play the tier 7 !
The FSV does look like a cool tank, kind of reminds me of the T71 (back when it was just the T71 and had the DA’s turret and CMDB’s hull) which was a tank I went for when I first started playing world of tanks
QB failed to show that you can't handbrake in these wheeled tanks.
You actually can handbrake in them. You have to hold W, one of the turning keys, and the space bar. It's not like a normal tank where you let go of W or space. Also, the wheels have to be at their maximum angle for the handbrake to work. Do it correctly and you can spin 180 in half a second.
Started at tier 6 yesterday. Tier 6 is a very cool tank. The Speed is pretty nice, and I build for boosting view range and increase turning. The gn is ok. I had only one game on tier 7 so far.
They are fun to ply so far
pretty cool tanks! excited to see the 8-10 tiers video
QB if you get into a nice matchup and don't need to fire gold, you can use the comsumables slot to change how much of each ammo you need, not just the consumables
He knows
Literally said this in the video! ~But only with field mods... not useful for grinding the line...
Biggest issue I have with the British wheeled MTs is that when you lose you wheels there is just a "whoosh", but your commander says nothing. The deflate sound can be hard to hear when there are other noises around.
I've been grinding these and I really enjoyed the tier 5 AEC. Tier 6 doesn't feel much better (especially when I end up on a tier 8 lobby) but I'm having fun. I'm looking forward to the tier 7 I also really enjoy that there's crew xp bonuses going on right now for the "roll Britannia" event thing so I've already started my my third perk. Made me want to grind the French tire tanks since I don't own any french tanks (been grinding for about a month) The wheels really bring a fun aspect to tanking for me! I hadn't played WoT since like 2016 and it's been fun getting used to all the new stuff in the game that wasn't around back then. (I don't remember premium tanks being pay to win but oh well)
Hey Mr. QB i Really enjoyed this line, very fun to play.
These are all described as "sniper" in WOTs garage summary. Thus the great gun handling.
I only take the T7 to test because of the best camo of all the line with a spotter setup with exhaust to play sneaky.
Good rate of fire, good pen, but 5° of depression, and it turn like the titanic...
Staghound in real life was a very good armoured car and equipped with a American 37mm. Some were fitted with the Crusader turret with 6pdr.
Still grinding the Staghound so not having fun yet! Pleased to see the FSV might be more interesting to play.
2:35 it feels pretty similar to the t-34 with 57 mm, alpha dmg is 85 and I've got the reload down to 1.86 sec
Pretty much what I thought was going to happen, with the FSV sch A and Saladin being the most enjoyable of the bunch. Shame Wargaming made them generally so mediocre, as it will likely takes years to see any adjustments.
The AEC : first Game 2030 Dmg 😮, its brillant !!!!
I think some adjustments are needed here and there but... the whole line (except tier 10 but that one has alpha advantage) has exceptional gun handling which means there's no need for v.stab. So you have a free slot that can be used for... turbo which in turn makes those tanks the fastest medium tanks in the game (except tier 10...).
They are not flashy but they have very comfortable guns (something you often only get at tier 10) and they are fairy mobile with high top speed. Honestly, I don't need much more than that so I'm quite satisfied with them.
Fun fact about the Staghound is that it's actually an American-designed vehicle but was produced under lend-lease in UK in large numbers while The Americans lost interest in the vehicle.
Whenever I see the ellipsis, I know what your thinking QB😂🎉
I somehow loved the t5 i did exhaust optic and vents and the pea shooter was really fun somehow somehow i never once did below 1.5k with it haha
i've waited for this, let's see...
My personal take:
5: difficult, and not fun to play
6: once fully researched is fun and interesting
7: fun and interesting
8: fun when played well, but difficult to play well (at least when you are making mistakes like me)
haven't gotten to 9 or 10
Even though I’m drunk. In the woods but still have service. Yes I saw a QB video turned the truck on for battery and watched this video.
DEDICATION
I am using exhaust system on the tier 7 and its great.
They could save the line just by adding a speed mode like on the ebr
How can you see your equipment in the middle of the game like you have?
I’m just going to say, for now I am only grinding to the tier 7 because it looks like a lot of fun and I want to try and Mark it as high as possible.
good job
NIce title! Why would I not watch this video then? Plus I'm grinding the T5 xd :)
I'm at Tier 7
In the first game look at the scoreboard, some pretty high numbers on the wheeled brit tanks. A guy on Quickys side got 6 kills and on the other side someone got 3. The numbers are obviously a bit skewed as it is a new tank and everything but darn! 13 kills by three tanks that on paper have very dubious stats
P.S Lovely paint job on the tier 7
When I played the AEC yesterday, I noticed another thing in common with the French EBR. Even without armor, the wheels will eat some shots with luck xD
I continue to be surprise at the use of the term "tanks" for the new armored car line. These vehicles were never intended to replace tanks except in the reconnaissance role. Comparing the two types of vehicles is like comparing apples and oranges.
QB you should try changing rammer for LNE, it really changes the line
I will with a second build after field mods! Currently grinding so no access!
The tier 7 is so cute 😊
That the AEC is the first on the line is... weird to me. So, there's the Humber, which had a 15mm autocannon and later a 37mm cannon, the Daimler, which had a 2 pdr, the (Australian) Rhino, which had a 2 pdr, and the (South African) Marmon-Herrington, which also had a 2 pdr.
Why the line doesn't start at tier 3 with the Humber, and the Daimler at tier 4, I have no idea. (Rhino and Marmon-Herrington being fine fodder for tier 4 premiums). (Also, the AEC had, across the marks, a 2 pdr and 75mm as well).
Fun fact: the 77 mm OQF on the Comet, actually has a caliber of 75 (or 76.2?) mm, the Brits just called it the 77 so they would not get the guns of the Comet and Cromwell (75 mm OQF) (or 17-pdr?) mixed up.
Thanks for the info!
the suckage is stronk in this line
I don't like the staghound. I got a Cromwell B as my first premium back in the day and have played the Cromwell a lot. The Staghound pales in every way except gun handling. The main issue I have is the turning radius. It is so inflexible I have a hard time maneuvering the gun into position on any sort of slope. I might just have to free xp past it.
Hi fellow tankers, how can you enable to see the equipment during the battle?
The tier VII shoots better than my Grille 15 fully aimed at one third the distance.
You ain't nothing but a Staghound, firing all the time, You ain't nothing but a Staghound, firing all the time, but with piss poor traverse you ain't no friend of mine.
so for average play this line you must put bounty equip....starting from tier 5....😮
how would you feel if they were given the launch mechanic that the ebrs were originally gonna have, could provide a more fun gameplay making them unique but not over powered
What was your team doing at the end of that last game? Half of them are sitting in base with no targets in range
Staghound increases its gun handle compared to crommie so much that I actually think its a good sidegrade
QB what is the name of the mod you are using to see equipment in-game?
The grind up to tier X is the most woeful experience I have ever had in WoT. Playing against tier X’s with a tier 7 gun is just stupid.
121 base penetration is actually great for a tier 5 xD
I’m just having fun with all the soft targets right now😬
It used to be like that on console the defenders in the town.
Will they add the puma next?
Bizzare balancing between tiers - tier 5 has aboveaverage penetration, then tier 6 has below average, then 7 has above average, then tier 8 has average again.
They say they are supposed to be sniper tanks, so shouldn't they all have above average penetration? Buff that on tiers 6, 8 and 9, and camo rating for entire line, and then they would be pretty good imho.
Can’t wait for the american wheeled tank deatroyers
that is just a T-50-2 that got slowed down and given more rate of fire
they should have made them fast meds with good camo to make up for the horrible DPM and armor, QB should really play the buffed Brit heavies, as WG forgot to buff their gundep.
thnx
Let me guess wheeled vehicles aren't stopped by Dragon's Teeth? So not only are they in no way similar to the real vehicles, where a real vehicle existed (e.g. the Staghound with its real 37mm gun turret replaced by a Crusader 75mm gun [which it never had either, topping out at a 6pdr] turret), but they somehow have "tank like" obstacle crossing capability.
Way way back in the days you spawned in the middle like now
The last two British lines to come out makes me think WG hates the British.
They hate everyone non russian.
introduce tanks underpowered, then monitor their statistics over time and buff them as needed to fit their intended role
Where's the brit tho ?
Ikr 😂
The thing i hate the most about those new wheelers is the driving performance. you cant turn like EBRs nor you can drift like tracked tanks. And the braking and reversing is the worst. Enemy can almost go for a tea break before we change our direction
Enjoying the tier V and VII, the tier 6 isnt great tho
Is this on console cause i cant find them on the tech tree
Woo, lets go!
I'm coming back to the game after a couple year break, and I feel I would be more excited by a new arty line than this.
i think siegfried is much more balanced. previously i never went south cause i knew it is lost every single time when defending.
In my opinion the tier 7 is better than comet. I hate comets low standard pen. So far i really like the tier 7 wheelie.
So if I put a top crew, bounty equipment, premium consumables, and get a dose of CC RNG the british wheelies are meh to ok. Thanks for explaining that QB 😂
So far, they suck on ice. They are fast in a straight line but turn like a full cement truck.
Hate that these things turn like a barge despite having wheels. Feels so bad.
What about the t8,9 and 10?
Hey, hey did a jingles and misnamed a tank. Called the M8A1 an M4A1
6:52 “Looks like an absolute freak…” as if any other tank in the game looks any better?
Sounds like a disney star wars sequal tank to me🤔 GG QB👍
Hi, you dont play onslaught?
Really weird seeing the tier 5 and 6 turn like that.
I'm pretty sure they weren't able to neutral steer like a tank as the AEC in actuality drove like an armored car, with a steering wheel.
@@chez6459 Exactly!
60 km/h at tier 5 on a medium is pretty good IMO. 90 alpha is bad though. More alpha is always better.
got s[ammed with gold when i played them, but i was defo spamming HE lol them
Look like a British AMD 56
With 600 Tanks, a new Line Just has to be OK and offer variety. They cant Always invent the wheel again (Pun intended).
So Its a nice Line introducing some new known Tanks :)
Yeah but who wants to play wheeled CDCs that turn like a Bus?
qb fully missing the overpowerness of tier 5 and 6. tier 5 tank said has 120pen and 180 gold pen. this is more like tier 6 pen. t34 85 has 144 pen and 180 gold pen in tier 6. the smaller calibre guns usually have even less pen on regular rounds. and tier 6 staghound gold pen is again more of like tier 7 pen. this makes it super easy for them to pen with gold rounds. and this is overpowered because your armor wont matter much if you get a bulletrain from a gun that has next tier penetration. i really think that rn they have been very well balanced so really. gj wargaming.
No Saladin?
Almost feels like WG saw that other recently released lines felt over-powered when they came out, thus, they wanted to actually have a balanced tank line. But, in doing so, some of the tanks feels...all over the place in balance.
There was no overpowered tech tree since...Czech heavies? And that one only had OP tier 10 (and maybe tier 9). Since then we had italian TDs which are strong but not really OP, american Yoh heavies that nobody even plays, chinese heavies which are... mediocre at best and japanese TDs that have some gems but are nothing special in the end.
@@antinotice It's also not just the tech trees. It's also the premiums. People have been complaining for a while now about how new premiums seem to be OP.
The new medium tank line, was obviously made to be more balanced compared to past attempts.
As you pointed out, two of those lines, were meh. So, it is not just about overpowered lines, but, also under powered ones as well.
@@forgerofsouls9126 Sorry, but you didn't say anything about premiums in your original comment.
I don't understand your logic - how the new line was made to be more balanced when pretty much every tech tree since czech heavies was mediocre at best (maybe with an exception of italian TDs).
Premiums are a separate topic because premium tank that comes with the new tech tree is always stronger than tech tree vehicle and this is true for very long time now and this time is no different.
@@antinotice Yeah, it was my bad for forgetting to include premiums and how some lines were meh in my original comment.
Further more, if you don't understand my logic, that is on you, not me. You have closed your mind to other opinions.
180 gold pen @ tier 5 is absolute cancer for a wheeled light tank... you dont even have to think, you just press 2 and start blasting
for me in my opinion the Scheme A is the better looking of them all
I find that these new British wheeled vehicles do not offend my sensibilities as much as the dumb-ass-Ferrary-with-Captain-America-wheels line. These may even be decent fit to the game.
It's not a tier V match without a lefh or a Pz V/IV