I very much agree with you guys. American mediums are too fair and balanced for todays meta, which sadly makes them completely irrelevant and bad. I'd love to see French heavy autoloaders, AMX 50B tree. Should that happen, I wish you happy suffering :).
Sad to see what happened to the American mediums. They used to be really good all-round tanks. One could say they were average and that wouldn't be a lie, actually. But that their averageness allowed them to perform decently on all maps, unlike specialist tanks that were great in specific scenarios.
It's like the American turreted TD line vs the STRV line. The STRV is really good on certain maps and absolute trash on most of the maps, while the worse American TDs perform about the same on all the maps.
American mediums were an enjoyable experience for me, honestly. Tier 7 and 9 I did rather well, once I balanced aggression and safety. My favorite part was playing 0 games in the Pershing. That rocked.
When I started world of tanks many years ago, I went for the American tanks for that reason. They're the Swiss army knife of tanks. Nothing exceptional in one category. Distinctly Joe average. And yet, they worked well. In today's world of tanks, they do feel underwhelming which is a shame. I'd like to see what you think of the pershing post buff. Equally American Heavies would be great to see at some point.
This line is enjoyable in the early years of this game. Now it is severely powercreeped, and nerfed when it came to using the derp guns thanks to people spamming HEAT and then with the HE changes. It is extremely hard to do well with the Jumbo Sherman in its historical config. The M4 and E8's 76mm needs to have the damage and penetration of the 17lber at the cost of DPM because DPM means nothing when you cannot pen outside of spammimg speshul rounds and require constant shooting. Power creep with the T20 and Pershing with its 240 alpha 90mm gun when guns of the same caliber and even lower caliber like German 88 on the Tiger 1 can get 280 alpha. Overall one of the oldest lines is heavily power creeped thanks to WGs inability to balance new vehicles and lines.
Been playing tanks since 2011 and still don't have a tier 10 to this day so watching you guys use skill at mid tiers is always satisfying. Next tech tree I'd say British TDs
A pretty fair assessment. Gonna say, getting done with the T20 was such a release...then I played the Pershing...it's a slog, but you can still have some fun...sometimes.
Quality content once again AEG, for the next vid, you guys are going to need to choose something with huge meme potential.... what about say the FV4005 line? Think about it, not the best lower tiers, ok mid tier, and derpy higher tiers. I can see Edvan screaming a ton when the guns troll him.
Honestly I found the line really solid, although the persh was painful. The Patton was awesome and the fatton took everything that made the Patton good and built on it. Now it's probably my favorite tx
I can already guess that the french heavy autoloaders are going to get featured next with the amount of likes I've seen, but I have two proposals: The original 268 line. It is where I feel WG drew the inspiration from to make the japanese TDs and even though it doesn't matter, but as a small historical bonus they all existed IRL, with cool prototypes such as the ISU-152 with the actual BL-10 (among others), which is on the uncommon side nowadays. Finally, the chinese mediums! I feel that this line, despite its fault of suffering from poor module health is quite underrated and could do with a little bit more exposition.
I love yalls vids. yall make a game that was going down hill for a bit seem much more fun and interesting! I would love to see you guys do the E3 American TD line. I love that line and its solid in my personal opinion.
See you say you dont recommend going down the line but i always find myself going back to the 48 patton when i want to do consistently well and have fun and actually have an impact in the match. Its gun is great. If you use its Gun depression you can bounce shells on the turret, its mobility is great (when you run a turbo) Its gun handling doesnt really need to be changed with equipment. Sometimes a good allround vehicle is exactly what people need.
Every tank in the game has its fans, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good tank. I love the Type 5 myself and consistently perform in it, but I can recognize that it will definitely be a huge pain for most people. /Zwhatsh
Ya know this video makes me wanna try the T20 to be a scout tank for some reason I did 3rd mark my T-34-1 with camo build so I wonder if I could pull it off
It is a very good scout if the map/MM allows for it. I 3-marked my T20 with a secondary scout build. Just be careful with all the ELC evens in the matchmaker (or most tier 8/9 lights that will destroy you because they can use CVS) and you'll be fine :)
@@lucsky800 Update: I manage to 3 mark the T20 with only 99 battles (sure I use bond vents optics and bounty exhaust because eh why not) 531 meters view range and 39 .17 while on the move seriously ever since I got the T20 and using only scout build for fun is really enjoyable experience
M48 Patton Was my first T10, (currently my only non premium Tier 10 tank) but idk you guys seemed to have undersold it. i just Rammer, Vents, and Turbo, and i have sami-decent DPM and if you get in the right position you can do a LOT of damage. Anyway Other than that i agree and i love the video keep it up guys.
Oh man... you guys playing the Pershing... that's bad memories. Not sure if you still can, but the 105MM Derp was basically a viable option because of how bad that 90MM is lmao
T6 Medium and M4A1 are still a fun play. Harder since the HE changes, but enjoyable. But you guys skipped the most important American Medium of all... M3 LEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOYYYYYY JENKINS!!!!
Hey Edvin, at minute 17:09 i saw a white circle thing . Isn't that for diabetes or low sugar pressure? I hope u are fine. Thanks for the enjoyment of this video AEG.
Yeah the M4A3E8, T20, and the M26 Pershing could have been fun if they had - armor - accuracy - pen - alpha The entire experience is raging against enemies at the far side of the map who don't even know you're there because you keep missing. They're not short-range, nor are they long-range tanks. I'll stick to my M47 Iron Arnie and M60 thx. Next tech tree, would love to see the Grille 15 line! Love the T6-T9! :D
@@steffent.6477 Yep, but for a short time after release Pershing was still top tier. I loved playing it, I remember, I had a battle where I had 10 kills, and I could not destroy the final enemy on the enemy team (it was 1v1 at that point), and lost... Anyway, the M46 Patton was a significant downgrade compared to what the Pershing was before.
Why y’all hating on the is 3 it’s really not that bad, you just gotta dance lol, play it a tiny bit like a 279 e and if you get against high tiers just pray because it makes up for it against equal and low tiers
God IS3 is terrible, the last time it was good the doom turtle went 13 km/hr. It does look super sexy tho, historical soviet tanks have fabulous default models
I am on a quest to master the Pershing. I have already 3-Marked my M4A1 just before the HE nerfs came Also this line was literally my first line that I went down to and completed. I still suck at the M48A5, but nothing a bit of practice won't help
I'm a proud peasant then^^ A fire extinguisher is more usefull for me than a slight stat boost. Because I'm bad and minimal stat boost wouldn't get me better results^^
M4A1 Sherman: 7/10 nice HE M4A3E8: 6/10 good dpm, obsolete armor T20: 2/10 terrible armor, ammo rack, and gun (always need premium) decent spotting Pershing: 2/10 hell to get through… but okay spotting. M46 Patton: 6/10 hard hitter dpm, half dependable turret, good traverse, no hull armor, good spotting. M48 Patton: 9/10 decent gun, great dpm, decent turret armor, great traverse, great spotting, mediocre hull (don’t try side scraping). This branch being the first one I ground to tier X, I hate the T20 and Pershing. The other tanks are bearable. My favorites are their V and X for their flexibility.
Hello :)I would be happy to see the AMX 13 105 line covered, it is so fun to use this line! I grinded it when I began playing wot, I wasn't very good at all. Maybe you'll make me want to go back to the tech tree line ? Thanks for the memes :)
I love the patton but i do wish it had a little more camo. Mine is sitting at like 20% while still and like 11% moving. Its not any larger than a leo 1 and my leo has 35% moving camo and 44% still
I honestly found the 9 better than the 8 and kinda worth just to blitz around in. At Tier 10 you get punished so hard for any errors (which i found happened less at tier 9, like you could still do your job, make a mistake or two and get away with it) though I always laughed really hard when an FV4005 didn't pen my EBR 105's wheels.
Not seeing the T20 dump here. If you played all tier 9 games while in it you are going to have a bad experience. That wouldn't change with any tier 7 playing all tier 9 games. The T20 is a beast. The M46 is also a hidden gem, imo.
Comment down below which tech-tree you would like to see next! ;)
obj. 180 russian td tank im not sure if its 180 but the su one with 152mm on tier 10
@@toomo5 you mean 268?
I want you guys to play the 113 line
Obj 283 line please!! SU152 with BIG GUNS ONLY
Wz 5a or 121.
I very much agree with you guys. American mediums are too fair and balanced for todays meta, which sadly makes them completely irrelevant and bad.
I'd love to see French heavy autoloaders, AMX 50B tree. Should that happen, I wish you happy suffering :).
We need the B-C 25 t to be covered again!
I love this tank
especially now
Imagine a T50/51 platoon with ma-mans EdvinE20 & Zwhatsh clipping the hell out of the enemy team!
Hell yes, play the my-man Mediums!
Sad to see what happened to the American mediums. They used to be really good all-round tanks. One could say they were average and that wouldn't be a lie, actually. But that their averageness allowed them to perform decently on all maps, unlike specialist tanks that were great in specific scenarios.
It's like the American turreted TD line vs the STRV line. The STRV is really good on certain maps and absolute trash on most of the maps, while the worse American TDs perform about the same on all the maps.
American mediums were an enjoyable experience for me, honestly. Tier 7 and 9 I did rather well, once I balanced aggression and safety.
My favorite part was playing 0 games in the Pershing. That rocked.
The 9 and 7 are demons imo, especially the 9. My second f all time favorite t9 behind the cs-59. You can tell I like my brawling dpm meds lol
The sherman (easy 8) is so underrated in this game
To be fair, the alpha and pen is absolutely atrocious for a tier 6. You’re basically a fat scout.
I massively appreciate that when you say "world of tanks + shot" that there is a popup in the top right corner about your wot+ video. Top tier content
When I started world of tanks many years ago, I went for the American tanks for that reason. They're the Swiss army knife of tanks. Nothing exceptional in one category. Distinctly Joe average. And yet, they worked well. In today's world of tanks, they do feel underwhelming which is a shame.
I'd like to see what you think of the pershing post buff. Equally American Heavies would be great to see at some point.
This line is enjoyable in the early years of this game. Now it is severely powercreeped, and nerfed when it came to using the derp guns thanks to people spamming HEAT and then with the HE changes. It is extremely hard to do well with the Jumbo Sherman in its historical config. The M4 and E8's 76mm needs to have the damage and penetration of the 17lber at the cost of DPM because DPM means nothing when you cannot pen outside of spammimg speshul rounds and require constant shooting.
Power creep with the T20 and Pershing with its 240 alpha 90mm gun when guns of the same caliber and even lower caliber like German 88 on the Tiger 1 can get 280 alpha.
Overall one of the oldest lines is heavily power creeped thanks to WGs inability to balance new vehicles and lines.
That POG Easy8 game! WOW!
Love your vids, keep up the work! Would love to see the BZ-75 line next please
Been playing tanks since 2011 and still don't have a tier 10 to this day so watching you guys use skill at mid tiers is always satisfying. Next tech tree I'd say British TDs
A pretty fair assessment. Gonna say, getting done with the T20 was such a release...then I played the Pershing...it's a slog, but you can still have some fun...sometimes.
Getting out of navy bootcamp and watching yall first feels amazing
Navy bootcamp? Dauym! Good luck my man!
Quality content once again AEG, for the next vid, you guys are going to need to choose something with huge meme potential.... what about say the FV4005 line? Think about it, not the best lower tiers, ok mid tier, and derpy higher tiers. I can see Edvan screaming a ton when the guns troll him.
8:00 this should be the sound of the sixth sense :D
E8 was legitimately one of my favorite tanks in WOT. Also the E2, but for a whole different set of reasons.
i loved it so much i got the Fury version too bad the power creep that followed after the Jap heavies ruined the fun of these tanks.
Honestly I found the line really solid, although the persh was painful.
The Patton was awesome and the fatton took everything that made the Patton good and built on it. Now it's probably my favorite tx
I can already guess that the french heavy autoloaders are going to get featured next with the amount of likes I've seen, but I have two proposals:
The original 268 line. It is where I feel WG drew the inspiration from to make the japanese TDs and even though it doesn't matter, but as a small historical bonus they all existed IRL, with cool prototypes such as the ISU-152 with the actual BL-10 (among others), which is on the uncommon side nowadays.
Finally, the chinese mediums! I feel that this line, despite its fault of suffering from poor module health is quite underrated and could do with a little bit more exposition.
Good good … go for the Yoooooooooo tanks next plz top of the tree is comming as well 😜😎
I love yalls vids. yall make a game that was going down hill for a bit seem much more fun and interesting! I would love to see you guys do the E3 American TD line. I love that line and its solid in my personal opinion.
The Yoh tanks!!! I wanna see that track mechanic!
Perhaps you gents could cover the Pz.Kpfw VII line, with the tier 8 being buffed, it might be interesting.
The M4A1 was my first tank I 3 marked, back when the HE worked different, it was a blast
See you say you dont recommend going down the line but i always find myself going back to the 48 patton when i want to do consistently well and have fun and actually have an impact in the match. Its gun is great. If you use its Gun depression you can bounce shells on the turret, its mobility is great (when you run a turbo) Its gun handling doesnt really need to be changed with equipment. Sometimes a good allround vehicle is exactly what people need.
Every tank in the game has its fans, doesn't necessarily mean it's a good tank. I love the Type 5 myself and consistently perform in it, but I can recognize that it will definitely be a huge pain for most people. /Zwhatsh
I swear Edvin is so random at 9:07
Id honestly love to see something like the Polish heavies or the swedish tank destroyers
I was hoping for American Heavy Experience, but this does put a smile on my face.
I think the AMX 50B or 268/4 experience would be a good video. Amazing work on this one, keep it up!
Ya know this video makes me wanna try the T20 to be a scout tank for some reason I did 3rd mark my T-34-1 with camo build so I wonder if I could pull it off
It is a very good scout if the map/MM allows for it. I 3-marked my T20 with a secondary scout build. Just be careful with all the ELC evens in the matchmaker (or most tier 8/9 lights that will destroy you because they can use CVS) and you'll be fine :)
@@lucsky800
I played on the Asian server I only get +1/-1 match maker
@@lucsky800 Update: I manage to 3 mark the T20 with only 99 battles (sure I use bond vents optics and bounty exhaust because eh why not) 531 meters view range and 39
.17 while on the move seriously ever since I got the T20 and using only scout build for fun is really enjoyable experience
Sherman Jumbo with Stock Turret and derp 105 is THE best way to play American Tier 6's. *PERIOD.*
M48 Patton Was my first T10, (currently my only non premium Tier 10 tank) but idk you guys seemed to have undersold it. i just Rammer, Vents, and Turbo, and i have sami-decent DPM and if you get in the right position you can do a LOT of damage.
Anyway Other than that i agree and i love the video keep it up guys.
Oh man... you guys playing the Pershing... that's bad memories. Not sure if you still can, but the 105MM Derp was basically a viable option because of how bad that 90MM is lmao
Easy8 OP confirmed!
Totally ;)
12:14 bro sounding like the terminator haha
This just reminded me how much I hated the Pershing, even back before the broken premiums.
T6 Medium and M4A1 are still a fun play. Harder since the HE changes, but enjoyable. But you guys skipped the most important American Medium of all...
M3 LEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOYYYYYY JENKINS!!!!
Hey Edvin, at minute 17:09 i saw a white circle thing . Isn't that for diabetes or low sugar pressure? I hope u are fine. Thanks for the enjoyment of this video AEG.
It's checking my blood sugar levels. Got type 1 diabetes :)
Yeah the M4A3E8, T20, and the M26 Pershing could have been fun if they had
- armor
- accuracy
- pen
- alpha
The entire experience is raging against enemies at the far side of the map who don't even know you're there because you keep missing. They're not short-range, nor are they long-range tanks. I'll stick to my M47 Iron Arnie and M60 thx.
Next tech tree, would love to see the Grille 15 line! Love the T6-T9! :D
The M4A3E2 has everything you want. Except speed
I want to see you take down the Italian mediums next. Show how they do this long after the nerf that they undeservedly got
That easy 8 game really lives up to your channel name, fair play!
Great video!!! As for the next line, how about the Chinese TD line (the WZ) . I think it’s pretty meme material
15:30 to be fair, 0 casualties is actually a good thing XD
Obj 705a experience cause why not
the t6 with the 105 gun is really funny too. 1 shot on full life tier3
I wonder what the Pershing is doing now after WG buffed it. It’s probably still bad but hey, at least they gave it a buff
Would love to see the "triagle comp"
Like the Strv s1, they so funny to look at, in a groop is even better 😂
Been years since I played the Pershing. Didn't realize it was this bad in the current game. Would have thought the recent buffs would have helped.
Tier 10 isn't bad at all. Good gun and shells. Armor is OK, but now awesome.
I'd say maybe the German lights - the Rhm Pzw is very strong now (especially with the automatic unflipping)
Ebr 105 tech tree would be fun
I agree
Do the Maus line
Best answer in the game of all time - I do it for fun. But the ‘merican line is junk, for farming and useless.
I grinded them so long ago that the M46 still had a paper turret and the Patton still had the old giant tumor.
I grinded them so long ago T23 was a tier8 medium and Pershing was top of the line at tier9.
@@Baleent7 That was like in the beta
@@steffent.6477 Yep, but for a short time after release Pershing was still top tier. I loved playing it, I remember, I had a battle where I had 10 kills, and I could not destroy the final enemy on the enemy team (it was 1v1 at that point), and lost... Anyway, the M46 Patton was a significant downgrade compared to what the Pershing was before.
Play IS7 line next
Would like to see how u guys would preform in IS3 in current meta
Why y’all hating on the is 3 it’s really not that bad, you just gotta dance lol, play it a tiny bit like a 279 e and if you get against high tiers just pray because it makes up for it against equal and low tiers
God IS3 is terrible, the last time it was good the doom turtle went 13 km/hr. It does look super sexy tho, historical soviet tanks have fabulous default models
I remember how painful the t20 was 🤣 the Pershing isn’t much better 🤣🤣🤣 would love to see you do the British centurion 7/1 line
Damn the t20? That thing was pretty demon at t7 imo, it had the mobility and alpha to be quite flexible
I am on a quest to master the Pershing. I have already 3-Marked my M4A1 just before the HE nerfs came
Also this line was literally my first line that I went down to and completed. I still suck at the M48A5, but nothing a bit of practice won't help
@13:15 I see GemStateJim dropped by your stream. You should consider yourselves lucky--that guy is a legend. Handsome, too. Kinda fishy, though.
So much fun like always 😂
Pls do the japanese meds line
I did grind this line with 105HE until unlock M46. Then, M60 got buff and put on bond shop.
China Medium Tank they are underrated asf in my opinion.
Or the E50m line
I'm a proud peasant then^^ A fire extinguisher is more usefull for me than a slight stat boost. Because I'm bad and minimal stat boost wouldn't get me better results^^
M4A1 Sherman: 7/10 nice HE
M4A3E8: 6/10 good dpm, obsolete armor
T20: 2/10 terrible armor, ammo rack, and gun (always need premium) decent spotting
Pershing: 2/10 hell to get through… but okay spotting.
M46 Patton: 6/10 hard hitter dpm, half dependable turret, good traverse, no hull armor, good spotting.
M48 Patton: 9/10 decent gun, great dpm, decent turret armor, great traverse, great spotting, mediocre hull (don’t try side scraping).
This branch being the first one I ground to tier X, I hate the T20 and Pershing. The other tanks are bearable. My favorites are their V and X for their flexibility.
Hello :)I would be happy to see the AMX 13 105 line covered, it is so fun to use this line!
I grinded it when I began playing wot, I wasn't very good at all. Maybe you'll make me want to go back to the tech tree line ?
Thanks for the memes :)
Try playing the M4A3E2 aka the jumbo Sherman, but with the stock turret, no kne at its tier can pen it
Thank you guys to post all this awesome epic videos i love you ❤
Centurion line.
Since it got buff but still kinda eh due to the lack of damage it serves at most cases
The first line I grinded to tier 10, the good old days...
i would love to see the PZ kpwg 7 now after the waffle, as its the "closest" in the tech-tree
Spaghetti 65 tree next? :3
I love the patton but i do wish it had a little more camo. Mine is sitting at like 20% while still and like 11% moving. Its not any larger than a leo 1 and my leo has 35% moving camo and 44% still
More "My Man" gameplay so maybe Czech mediums? :) TVP VTU got buff so now its not trashbag :D
I love your content, so I'll feel batter for IS-4 line 🙂, at least zwatch feel better playing this line 😉
I wuld personaly loved to see a Centurion Ax or italian TD line. I think after buff it could be lot of fun. Btw love the content ❤❤
Can we have an "OHHHHHH" counter pls? its like 120 times "OHHHHHHHH"
6:50 Epic carry
I would definitely like to see the Russian td’s in action leading to the 268 V4. After the nerf of the tier 10 it seems to be far less popular.
Ebr line would be interesting! I'm still wondering if I should skip the tier 9 because of the low improvement from tier 8 to 9!
I honestly found the 9 better than the 8 and kinda worth just to blitz around in. At Tier 10 you get punished so hard for any errors (which i found happened less at tier 9, like you could still do your job, make a mistake or two and get away with it) though I always laughed really hard when an FV4005 didn't pen my EBR 105's wheels.
They probably wont do that because ebrs cant platoon with other ebrs
Not seeing the T20 dump here. If you played all tier 9 games while in it you are going to have a bad experience. That wouldn't change with any tier 7 playing all tier 9 games. The T20 is a beast. The M46 is also a hidden gem, imo.
this is damn fun, keep doing well guys and make us entertain
E-50M. Time to smash some lights and mediums in a platoon.
i went down the whole line but I now only really play the M4 and E8.
My patton works just fine
I do recommend everyone to go down this line !
The M4A1 is the highlight of the USA mediums.
I suggest best of the Russian light tree.
If murica, then play the MURICAN HEAVY TONKS
could you do german meds with maybe both leos and e50s or just one of them
I wanted to hate the american meds, but somehow i ended up really enjoying the grind.
Japanese heavy tonks wit the big derps would be cool.
Why didn’t you guys mount accuracy equipment on the Pershing??
Because CVS 😎
You should do the Panzer Kampfwagen 7 line
You must have worked really hard for that 47k spot in the thumbnail^^
:P
Continue the suffering, play the Yoh line!
(name of a tank)
Zwhatsh : ✋😒
(name of a tank + GAMER)
Zwhatsh : 😏👍
Quick maths
i used the t20 more as an aggressive scout
I would love to see you playing the 50b line
T110E5 American Heavy Tank, cuz daka daka go brrrr
Hated the pershing with a passion I never felt before
Cvs on tier 8 and 9 💀💀💀
It's a bit of a meme. Zwhatsh had to 😅
430U Line of bias and justice, or IS-4!