Fun fact: My 8bitdo Zero (gen one) survived a trip through the washing machine to my surprise. They fit in the useless tiny pocket on the right side of most jeans, just don't forget it is in there on laundry day!
I have the first version of this controller and surprisingly, it works well for android but due to its size, I can't game with this controller for more than 30 minutes! It's great for a quick on the go gaming and for me, I gotta have a physical button controller! Good to know that this version is only $19.99 as for some reasons, they jack up the price of the first version to $34.99!
Get the 8bitdo N30 pro It's bigger than these things, but it's still a small controller, the size and flatness of a smart phone so it fits in your pocket, but it's way more usable and doesn't give you hand cramp like this one does. I love them so much I got another one so I have 2 now. It's got these really satisfying clicky buttons. I've even managed to play some FPS games with it cos it has analogue sticks, and while it isn't perfect for that, it's better than using the joycons
I have had/loved my first gen 8bitdo Zero for years. I like remapping the controls in emulators to hold it vertically with one hand. It's especially good for slower stuff like RPGs.
BIG THANKS TO YOU!!! I lost my instructions manual so I went to RUclips for help and after about 5 videos I came across yours and I’m up and running! Thank you!!!
I was a fan of the original SN30, but being one of the first 8bitdo products it had a couple of flaws and was not of the quality of current products and is discontinued. I'd like to see an 8bitdo gamepad with the same design and quality as the Zero 2, but the size of a SNES gamepad and it would be great.
I have the turquoise one that I made a key ring for so I can attach it to my keys. If you are not using the shoulder buttons, it's perfect. It's on a quick release so I can unhook it from my keys quickly. I use it when I want to waste some time at work or school. I got retroarch setup on my phone and I just fire up SNES and next thing you know I'm happily gaming away.
I wonder how repairable/cleanable these things are. I can see them getting gunked up easily due to the small size. Also battery/super capacitor whatever it uses for power replacement could be easy or nearly impossible depending on the way it is built. Can you PLEASE do a tear down so we can get some of those questions potentially answered?
Pouches used to be gangster. You'll read this and laugh... But these and Air Max 90's were uniform for drug dealers. The clip release was ideal for getting rid of shit you didn't want on your person in certain situations.
I got one last month, and it works just fine, but now the D-Pad doesn't work IN GAME but the D-pad works in the menu system. This things is the best to play Pokemon one handed. So if someone lost an arm or a hand this is great for one-handed folks.
Its the Tic-Tac controller👍🏼 Little too small for me but looks good. I have the nes30 pro and the sn30 pro +. Both have served me very well. 8bitdo makes a great product.
Honestly this thing does the job. I only use snes9x on both my laptop and phone so this is great. Gets me doing something when I have free time at college.
Lon. Tv review showed you can when connected to switch, press select and start at the same time will be equivalent to pressing zl + zr at the same time
I have a Zero 1, and I always bring it with me in my pocket with a little case I printed and I love it! Besides the colors and the connection with the Switch, are there other differences between the 1 and the 2?
I used to have the first generation. I still wonder why I bought it, since I am a plus sized male, using the zero was actually hurting my hand more than anything.
I'm >6 feet tall and my hand are large, so I find xbox and ps4 controllers a bit small, i would like them to have larger version, or at least some extension grips.. But.. i really want to buy these 3 8bitdos! All 3 colors! They're so cute))))
Those are cute... should be black and dark grey versions though... or some colors that are more appealing to certain people. I do like pink and turquoise, but not on my hardware.
I have a zero first gen and love it! It is always in my pocket or bag with my phone. When I saw it I laughed because it is so small but is the best for on the go gaming.
I much prefer the 8bitdo M30 Pro for a small controller. Because its a fair bit larger than this tiny Zero thing, but it's still tiny and flat relative to all normal controllers, it's smaller than a smartphone and it's very flat so it fits in your pocket, even a shirt pocket (although it'll be sticking out). And it has usable analogue sticks meaning you could play Smash Ultimate for example. But at home I've been using the new 8bitdo SN30 pro plus which is a SNES controller with analogue sticks and hand grips, it's basically a PS4 controller, and it works great. I also have the older one by them that is just the SNES gamepad with analogue sticks, but no hand grips. And the 6 button mega drive/saturn style gamepad cos of that fantastic Sega d-pad, and the 6 buttons make it great for street fighter I have no need for all these controllers but I irrationally love this company and can't stop buying them. Got a little collection now. Although I'm gonna buy the Power A switch the controller that has extra buttons on the back, paddles you can assign to any button. I've already got the gamecube controller for switch too, plus the NES pads from Nintendo purely cos they look cool
I’ve been following this company for as long as they’ve been out and I own all of the original controllers the sn30 fc30 and also then sn30 pro and fc30 pros this and the handle sn 30 pros are the only ones I’m missing and I’m actually not worried about owning the handle style ones but these zero and zero 2 are the only ones I’m genuinely interested in adding to my collection. They are so awesome I hate taking my sn/fc 30 and 30 on the go since they go in my backpack and I’ve already had some issues with the joy stick so these would really be perfect to toss in my pack pack and not have to worry about messing up the joy sticks.
Nice review. But one thing that bothers me since i started watching your videos is the sound. Compared to all the reviewers out there i have to really turn up the volume...
Is it possible to duel weld these controllers at once? Holding them vertically would still make the shoulder buttons accessible from what I can see . Probably not possible except in keyboard mode on a pc with a keymapper, but it seems like they'd fit even better in a normal hand vertically. Plus I bet all the buttons are semi accessible in one hand as well.
I own 2 of these 8bitdo zero 2 controllers but they have terrible connection problems with my windows 10 tablet pc (surface go) no matter which mode I power them on in. they're totally failing to connect to my pc now, which really sucks. Yet the larger, older SNES style 8bitdo controller never has any connection problems and is actually reliable on my tablet pc here. They were such cool controllers! what a shame.
Hello ETA Prime, could you please so a video on testing Android emulation with 4 bluetooth controllers? I tried it a couple of times and I think that input latency might be an issue when adding more than one bluetooth devices while gaming. I think it would be a nice idea for a future video. Thanks.
Hope you check out the new Micro. Interested in grabbing 4 of these to keep in my bag for spontaneous party game emulation on my android phone with USB c to HDMI out.
I picked up one of the earlier-model Zero controllers a few years ago. I had to satisfy my curiosity. They're definitely too small for certain things. I didn't find them good for fighting-game move inputs and stuff like that. There wasn't enough to hold onto, in my opinion. You mention these are bluetooth. Are you sure they don't have ability to connect via USB? I know the previous version was bluetooth only. However, I have seen specs indicating that these can connect via USB, which very well may be a mistake. But these are upgraded controllers with new features, so it is possible they added that ability. It would be good to have that clarified.
The 8bitdo website says the dimensions are 73 x 36.5 x 14.7mm. Cut out a piece of paper to get an idea. It's about the length of my car key, and thicker than my car's keyless entry remote. Tiny for a controller, but it would definitely be the biggest thing on my keychain.
That's the main reason, but also they swapped the ABXY buttons around to be like a SNES controller rather than an Xbox controller, and the firmware is now upgradable (which could mean the ability to add support for future systems, for example).
Would love to see some other colors. Maybe a little retro inspired Nintendo black and gray. But this might actually be perfect for Chromebook X2, the Xbox controller is a little too bulky to cram into my workpack with everything else, always afraid I'm going to rip an analog stick off.
Hey prime, this doesnt quite pertain to the zeeo but i use a sf30 pro on my raspberry pi 3, if i change the poll latency to early instead of late, will it reduce the input lag? The lag it has right now isnt horrible but its not great when precision is involved, big fan by the way
I want someone to make something tiny like this with all the same buttons and analog sticks as the x-box controller. I have a Steelseries FREE. It's close, but it only has L1 and R1. No L2 or R2. Also, the sticks are not clickable. Steelseries also made a very similar one for iOS. That one seemed to have most (if not all) of the buttons I want. But it's strictly for iOS (sigh). I know it's not ideal to play on such a tiny gamepad. But it really worked surprisingly well with my Steelseries FREE. Let someone create something like the Steelseries FREE with x-input and all the xbox buttons/inputs, I'll be all over it.
I had the original Zero at one point, but the d-pad wasn't great. I heard the Zero 2 was supposed to be slightly bigger and more accurate, but I'm curious if that's true.
@@ETAPRIME Good to hear, I've had a few of their older controllers and was always disappointed by the d-pads. Might actually get one of their newer models. Thanks for the response!
Bought this for my daughter for our RetroPie setup and absolutely hate it. The start and select buttons don't do what there suppose to. Start button records videos, select changes shaders. Do i have to change things in retroarch just to have it work correctly? Anyone have this problem? Anyone have a solution?
Select + Down --- Get to the home screen while in game.
Select + Start ---- Access the suspend menu in NES or SNES Online
Thanks four years later!
Fun fact: My 8bitdo Zero (gen one) survived a trip through the washing machine to my surprise. They fit in the useless tiny pocket on the right side of most jeans, just don't forget it is in there on laundry day!
That tiny pocket is supposed to be for loose change but it is pretty useless now because of credit cards
@@turtlelore2 No. It's definitely meant for small controllers.
@@turtlelore2 wasn't it originally meant for pocket watches?
@@cesarsoto4551 yep... Lol
@@turtlelore2 actually no. That pocket was specifically designed for a pocket watch.
Buying one of these to lend to whichever friend forgets his controller on smash bros night
It won’t work for smash you need an analog stick or instead of your character moving, it will just do taunts
@@death-jester_nobi9800 By default that D-Pad is mapped as an 8 directional analogue, so it would work fine.
@@alejandrohc2757 Is it controlled as a joycon? Or pro controller?
Perfect controller for my three year old!
yes! ive been playing games on switch with my 4 yr old and it pains me that nintendo missed the mark so much not having a smaller nes sized gamepad.
@@TrevorJones1 thats because the cut off for age is 3 because of small part
until they decide to chew on it
* *consume* *
I have the first version of this controller and surprisingly, it works well for android but due to its size, I can't game with this controller for more than 30 minutes! It's great for a quick on the go gaming and for me, I gotta have a physical button controller! Good to know that this version is only $19.99 as for some reasons, they jack up the price of the first version to $34.99!
Get the 8bitdo N30 pro
It's bigger than these things, but it's still a small controller, the size and flatness of a smart phone so it fits in your pocket, but it's way more usable and doesn't give you hand cramp like this one does. I love them so much I got another one so I have 2 now. It's got these really satisfying clicky buttons. I've even managed to play some FPS games with it cos it has analogue sticks, and while it isn't perfect for that, it's better than using the joycons
But the bottom line is does this work for Android as good as this one?
I have had/loved my first gen 8bitdo Zero for years. I like remapping the controls in emulators to hold it vertically with one hand. It's especially good for slower stuff like RPGs.
BIG THANKS TO YOU!!! I lost my instructions manual so I went to RUclips for help and after about 5 videos I came across yours and I’m up and running! Thank you!!!
I was a fan of the original SN30, but being one of the first 8bitdo products it had a couple of flaws and was not of the quality of current products and is discontinued. I'd like to see an 8bitdo gamepad with the same design and quality as the Zero 2, but the size of a SNES gamepad and it would be great.
I have the turquoise one that I made a key ring for so I can attach it to my keys. If you are not using the shoulder buttons, it's perfect. It's on a quick release so I can unhook it from my keys quickly. I use it when I want to waste some time at work or school. I got retroarch setup on my phone and I just fire up SNES and next thing you know I'm happily gaming away.
Really would have like a SNES skin, I have the original white and red one and it still holds up
Woah, and I thought the Joycons were tiny 😅 (Also I always appreciate 8Bitdo's clean looking packaging)
Just snagged mine in yellow. Super fun little controller actually. Everyone I show it to loves it. It's a hit lad.
I wonder how repairable/cleanable these things are. I can see them getting gunked up easily due to the small size. Also battery/super capacitor whatever it uses for power replacement could be easy or nearly impossible depending on the way it is built. Can you PLEASE do a tear down so we can get some of those questions potentially answered?
Toothbrush and 70% to 90% alchohol will clean gunk out of alot of things.
Stop being dirty then. Wash your hands.
If you still use a fanny pack😂, priceless ETA
Pouches used to be gangster. You'll read this and laugh... But these and Air Max 90's were uniform for drug dealers. The clip release was ideal for getting rid of shit you didn't want on your person in certain situations.
Pappagetti 🥶
I got one last month, and it works just fine, but now the D-Pad doesn't work IN GAME but the D-pad works in the menu system. This things is the best to play Pokemon one handed. So if someone lost an arm or a hand this is great for one-handed folks.
Its the Tic-Tac controller👍🏼
Little too small for me but looks good.
I have the nes30 pro and the sn30 pro +. Both have served me very well.
8bitdo makes a great product.
great video ETA!
Thanks for the review! I've been looking for controllers for my niece and nephew to use on a Pi build and these may work great!
Thanks for this review! Answered all my questions, in a quick, concise way. Gonna go buy one today😁
Honestly this thing does the job. I only use snes9x on both my laptop and phone so this is great. Gets me doing something when I have free time at college.
Lon. Tv review showed you can when connected to switch, press select and start at the same time will be equivalent to pressing zl + zr at the same time
I have a Zero 1, and I always bring it with me in my pocket with a little case I printed and I love it! Besides the colors and the connection with the Switch, are there other differences between the 1 and the 2?
I don't think so. Orignally it had gyro, but that was somehow dropped
They swapped the ABXY buttons around to be like a SNES controller rather than an Xbox controller, and the firmware is now upgradable.
i'm glad i bought zero when it came out, great little controller, it was 15€ at the time on amazon
Pocket controller for playing project diva at work on my phone. Perfect
Can see lots of people getting hand cramps using these. Thank being said they are pretty cool.
I keep my Zero controller in a hard-shell KZ case for earbuds... fits perfectly
I'd have no desire to own them, but they are cute.
FBA on mobile phone with this controller and SFA3. Never bored on flights ever!
micro usb?! i think tipe c might be a better choise 🤔
Yeah, the other new 8bitdo controllers all have USB C so it's strange this doesn't.
@@duffman18 as small as these are that shouldn't be a big deal though
*type
*choice
These controllers do look pretty good and seem to be priced well.
Yellow color looks so nice and clean💛
The micro USB, it saddens me.
I feel you
Been waiting for these -- great price!
I used to have the first generation. I still wonder why I bought it, since I am a plus sized male, using the zero was actually hurting my hand more than anything.
I bought it because it was cute :/
@@itsafish3235 How's using it?
I'm >6 feet tall and my hand are large, so I find xbox and ps4 controllers a bit small, i would like them to have larger version, or at least some extension grips.. But.. i really want to buy these 3 8bitdos! All 3 colors! They're so cute))))
Those are cute... should be black and dark grey versions though... or some colors that are more appealing to certain people. I do like pink and turquoise, but not on my hardware.
I have a zero first gen and love it! It is always in my pocket or bag with my phone. When I saw it I laughed because it is so small but is the best for on the go gaming.
I much prefer the 8bitdo M30 Pro for a small controller. Because its a fair bit larger than this tiny Zero thing, but it's still tiny and flat relative to all normal controllers, it's smaller than a smartphone and it's very flat so it fits in your pocket, even a shirt pocket (although it'll be sticking out). And it has usable analogue sticks meaning you could play Smash Ultimate for example.
But at home I've been using the new 8bitdo SN30 pro plus which is a SNES controller with analogue sticks and hand grips, it's basically a PS4 controller, and it works great. I also have the older one by them that is just the SNES gamepad with analogue sticks, but no hand grips. And the 6 button mega drive/saturn style gamepad cos of that fantastic Sega d-pad, and the 6 buttons make it great for street fighter
I have no need for all these controllers but I irrationally love this company and can't stop buying them. Got a little collection now. Although I'm gonna buy the Power A switch the controller that has extra buttons on the back, paddles you can assign to any button. I've already got the gamecube controller for switch too, plus the NES pads from Nintendo purely cos they look cool
I’ve been following this company for as long as they’ve been out and I own all of the original controllers the sn30 fc30 and also then sn30 pro and fc30 pros this and the handle sn 30 pros are the only ones I’m missing and I’m actually not worried about owning the handle style ones but these zero and zero 2 are the only ones I’m genuinely interested in adding to my collection. They are so awesome I hate taking my sn/fc 30 and 30 on the go since they go in my backpack and I’ve already had some issues with the joy stick so these would really be perfect to toss in my pack pack and not have to worry about messing up the joy sticks.
*backpack
They will make the cutest backpack chains.
These controllers aren't for me, but I Love your videos! Great job and keep it up!
Shoulder buttons was a life saver, although I would've loved an extra button somewhere that I can map the Z button to on a GameCube emu
I dont mind the no analog stick if they add the L2 and R2 buttons
Nice review. But one thing that bothers me since i started watching your videos is the sound. Compared to all the reviewers out there i have to really turn up the volume...
Are these good for roguelike games on android? Like caves or soul night.
I guess you guys have figured out a cure for lag.
Is it possible to duel weld these controllers at once? Holding them vertically would still make the shoulder buttons accessible from what I can see . Probably not possible except in keyboard mode on a pc with a keymapper, but it seems like they'd fit even better in a normal hand vertically. Plus I bet all the buttons are semi accessible in one hand as well.
I own 2 of these 8bitdo zero 2 controllers but they have terrible connection problems with my windows 10 tablet pc (surface go) no matter which mode I power them on in. they're totally failing to connect to my pc now, which really sucks. Yet the larger, older SNES style 8bitdo controller never has any connection problems and is actually reliable on my tablet pc here. They were such cool controllers! what a shame.
These things are the literal definition of "yeah I got an extra controller"
Hello ETA Prime, could you please so a video on testing Android emulation with 4 bluetooth controllers? I tried it a couple of times and I think that input latency might be an issue when adding more than one bluetooth devices while gaming. I think it would be a nice idea for a future video. Thanks.
*device
Hope you check out the new Micro. Interested in grabbing 4 of these to keep in my bag for spontaneous party game emulation on my android phone with USB c to HDMI out.
Love them will be getting 2 🙌
This item will be released on January 31, 2020 😢
Hold Select and start and press L and R for zl and zr on the switch.
i still carry around my zero 1 but the dpad is now squeaky and R doesnt register too well, im waiting for another refresh with nicer buttons and uabc
8bitdo is best bt controler best for emulation
Any substantial differences from the first one ETA?
this would’ve been so cool if it was considered a sideways joy con
I picked up one of the earlier-model Zero controllers a few years ago. I had to satisfy my curiosity. They're definitely too small for certain things. I didn't find them good for fighting-game move inputs and stuff like that. There wasn't enough to hold onto, in my opinion.
You mention these are bluetooth. Are you sure they don't have ability to connect via USB? I know the previous version was bluetooth only. However, I have seen specs indicating that these can connect via USB, which very well may be a mistake. But these are upgraded controllers with new features, so it is possible they added that ability. It would be good to have that clarified.
Is it possible to connect two gamepads at one time?
Are there any controllers designed like the razer kishi
But just bluetooth
And doesnt need to be connected to the remote(but can be)
Can you tell me what the watch is you have towards the end of the video for size comparison?
The 8bitdo website says the dimensions are 73 x 36.5 x 14.7mm. Cut out a piece of paper to get an idea.
It's about the length of my car key, and thicker than my car's keyless entry remote. Tiny for a controller, but it would definitely be the biggest thing on my keychain.
Should 3d print a new shell and put them on an android phone, like an Xperia play kind of thing
haha i got one for shits and giggles, cant stop using it on phone. lol
Bonitos. Bateu uma nostalgia ao ver o o jogo Joe e Mac.
Besides the Switch compatibility is there any reason to change from the original Zero?
That's the main reason, but also they swapped the ABXY buttons around to be like a SNES controller rather than an Xbox controller, and the firmware is now upgradable (which could mean the ability to add support for future systems, for example).
Does down select or down and start act as a home button like on other 8Bitdo without a home button?
Would love to see some other colors. Maybe a little retro inspired Nintendo black and gray. But this might actually be perfect for Chromebook X2, the Xbox controller is a little too bulky to cram into my workpack with everything else, always afraid I'm going to rip an analog stick off.
There are colour combos like that with the first gen Zero. I'm sure you can still find them on Amazon.
Hey prime, this doesnt quite pertain to the zeeo but i use a sf30 pro on my raspberry pi 3, if i change the poll latency to early instead of late, will it reduce the input lag? The lag it has right now isnt horrible but its not great when precision is involved, big fan by the way
I wanted to buy these but I'm on the fence because of the negative reviews saying they stopped working after a few months 😕
Hi, have You tried the LGG8X with two screens for gaming? Like to see that, because of the use of the extra screen.
Thought I was subbed but I guess I was not! Huh well I corrected that. Now I am. 😀
HELP! How can I connect it to my iPad Air 5th? It won't pair no matter what I press.
Can you configure the missing button using Steam if you want to stream games to your phone?
I want someone to make something tiny like this with all the same buttons and analog sticks as the x-box controller. I have a Steelseries FREE. It's close, but it only has L1 and R1. No L2 or R2. Also, the sticks are not clickable. Steelseries also made a very similar one for iOS. That one seemed to have most (if not all) of the buttons I want. But it's strictly for iOS (sigh). I know it's not ideal to play on such a tiny gamepad. But it really worked surprisingly well with my Steelseries FREE. Let someone create something like the Steelseries FREE with x-input and all the xbox buttons/inputs, I'll be all over it.
Zero 2 is the name?
Weebs: *g a s p*
Kirby fans: *horrible flashbacks*
Do these sync up with the switch lite? Would give it a twist.
They do
Yessir.. I NEED THESE!
I had the original Zero at one point, but the d-pad wasn't great. I heard the Zero 2 was supposed to be slightly bigger and more accurate, but I'm curious if that's true.
I never tried the first generation personally but in the last year 8bitdo has definitely stepped up the D-Pad game on all controllers
@@ETAPRIME Good to hear, I've had a few of their older controllers and was always disappointed by the d-pads. Might actually get one of their newer models. Thanks for the response!
Are these ideal for fighting games? just want to know if they're nearly unplayable since they're missing triggers
What platform are you using on Android device to play Sonic?
I wonder if it works with Xiaomi MI Box. For games would work.
Can I use this with a wired GameCube controller plugged in?
Hello What game were you playing first?
Does it have rumble or motion controlls?
Bought this for my daughter for our RetroPie setup and absolutely hate it. The start and select buttons don't do what there suppose to. Start button records videos, select changes shaders. Do i have to change things in retroarch just to have it work correctly? Anyone have this problem? Anyone have a solution?
So they're the same as those white and red ones frol years ago
But these ones work with the Switch :)
*from
They swapped the ABXY buttons around to be like a SNES controller rather than an Xbox controller, and the firmware is now upgradable.
Man these are awesome
my 8bitdo zero 2 won't connect to my android tablet. I've tried everything I could find online, nothing has worked. Pretty frustrated.
Wish they would work with iOS.. But switch compatibility is nice!
Does it work with the steam deck oled?
can we play arcade games like super mario or cotra with zero 2 on ios device such as ipohone？
is that possible to use this on iOS
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Are you ETA Prime?
these were suppose to release back in spring of this year with much more color options guess they decided on the cheap route
Or they found a bug that took a lot of time and money to fix and had to cut back. Unlikely but eh
Would’ve been nice if they did a gamecube color
looks great, just a lil bit too glossy for a EDC pocket pad, nevertheless VERY NICE
Can I use it to play retro games on my Android tv
does this device work on nintendo switch lite model?
Would it work on amazon fire stick?
Whats the brand and model of the android tablet?
My controller out of box allowed me to get to the Snes menu with l&r in the snes and nes apps
Does this work with xbox series s?
I want to use it with retroarch.