Jim Ross on letting Chyna leave the WWF because she wanted a $1mm gurantee
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WWF was probably the only place where she could be adored the way she needed.
Even that didn't make her happy
The porn industry definitely brought a darker kind of adoration
She also had bad timing of when to leave WWE with WCW closing down a few months before. If she had left WWF in 1998 instead of 2001 she could've just gone and work with them instead. Granted WCW probably would've had no idea of how to use her properly.
8,000 a week would be a blessing to most of us
China Didn't want people to think she slept her way to the top,
Hunter meets Stephanie lmao 😂😂
Right lol
And before that there was HBK
@@Hakeem990 So you think the HBK Vince rumors are true?
@Pedro Sepulveda Bret hart is a Legend
HBK and ass Patterson is probably true
It isn't $400,000; it is $400,000 guaranteed. She would have gotten about $1.5m to 2.0m according to JR. Chyna was not valuable as Stone Cold or Undertaker.
Or the rock
I really wish they could have worked something out with her, I always enjoyed her character and her matches and believed she was the one woman who could really manhandle the male wrestlers.
That was part of the problem. The men didnt want to job or sell to her.
She got into a shoot fight with Joey Buttafucco the guy who was involved with Amy Fisher. He was a middle-aged man probably in his fifties. He was a mechanic and had arms the size of my thighs. He was a larger man maybe 250. It was celebrity boxing. She did Ok when she stayed off of him but when they closed he manhandled her. This a guy 20 years older than her who isn't an athlete. The idea that she could handle any man on the WWE roster is BS. She was just a gimmick.
@@mikedeck8381 theirs a difference between a street fight and a boxing match
Chyna was a one of a kind character and Joannie deserved more in and outside the ring. RIP.
In the end she just wasn’t that talented.
@@juliandavidhoffer2022 what being a stupid ass luchador that flys like spiderman is the only way to be talent
@@whatever85x I don’t know who you are referring to.
@@whatever85x it's more buying and selling. Chyna was stiff same with a lot of big name wrestlers
@@whatever85x chyna was the only woman in the WWE history that could compete with the men and she did things that no other woman in wed history could do. She didn’t just open the door for the womens division, she bulldozed the entire wall open. You don’t know anything
Chyna. Man I miss her
Same
Chyna was an Icon
Its not surprising what happened with her love life the way she was treated after getting her heart broke was
I wish she had better people around her, still very sad what happened and a very cautionary tale, RIP Joanie god bless
She did. She pushed a lot of people away. She even got arrested for assaulting Sean Waltman.
It's 2020 and Hollywood still hasn't found the female Schwarzenegger or female Stalone for that matter.
Yes but there are plenty of female action roles. We have WonderWoman, Rey on Star Wars, Hunger games etc. Chyna being a gimmick was part of her problem oddly enough
There are already amazing female characters from that era like Ellen Ripley and Sarah Conner, women don’t need to strive to copy men.
I wasn't into wrestling at the time, but I would have loved to see an action hero like Chyna in movies! Yes, there were tons of female action heroes in the 90s, but none of them were built like Chyna. It would have been something different.
She was a great character, brilliantly presented. Genuinely was the walking embodiment of feminism.
However saying that, she was a side attraction.
Seems if you live in a bubble your view of reality becomes very detached. She has a sad story, however as the parable goes.. I was a lion once. And she truly was
A lot of women started to watch women's wrestling and got interested because if her.
side attraction? Chyna is one of the greatest if not THE greatest female wrestler to ever grace the squared circle. She deserved 1m dollar contract easily, the only reason they wouldnt give it to her is because Paul cheated on her and they wanted to get rid of her ASAP so they cut her contract down.
@@Kingslayer_au yes she was also going to be the tx on terminator 3 but Vince badmouthed her to the studios and I believe that because tony atlas said that when he was leaving WWF that Vince would bad mouth him to other promoters so there would only be his. Also chynas presence would make her the best female. Alone. She should be on the hall of fame have u seen the video where she calls wwe headquarters. Also her documentary got cancelled.
If anything, HHH was the side attraction when he was working with Chyna. Chyna was more over than HHH during the late 90's.
@@Kingslayer_au Chyna was definitely not the greatest female wrestler lmao. Good, ya. But greatest? No lmao
wow. the first time I've seen these guys converse on video. Conrad's huuuge!
Absolute UNIT
Damn he is huge. Yo dude u better shape up or its not looking good for ya.. Peace conrad
@@TheProjectarnold he could cosplay as giant haystacks lol
Loved Chyna, absolutely loved her, but she was misguided in thinking she was on Stone Colds level. I woulda took the 400k.
Conrad Thompson as Haley Joel Osmett
or chazz bono
If only Chyna could see how hot she was in 2001 in terms of athleticsm and her place in the company, but I suppose it would've been so hard to get on in work after what happened
She did know, that’s why she asked for more money. Instead, they were more worried about making sure HHH and Steph were safe. Which is to be expected considering Steph is the owners daughter. Makes me sick that he paints the picture he does
@@SnowWhiteTheU2 I don't buy this BS. JR said the same thing about Sable when she was "causing trouble". I guess that was there go to for the women of that time, who were over af.... they were just "buying into their own hype, demanding too much $" blah blah.
@@sese6227 Sable, Debra, Chyna. I think you’re right we’re seeing a pattern here ....
@Tig Bitties They still do !!! Look at how AJ had to literally drag Stephanie on Twitter for trying to take credit for something she started years ago. They’re sickening I really wish that someone would check them and their evil ways one day.
@@SnowWhiteTheU2 by 2001 they had really clipped her wings by putting her into the women's division and having her kayfabe break her neck. The women's division at the time consisted of ivory, literally every woman including lita was packaged with males. Chyna had even be consistently put with a male the majority of her career. People wanted to see Chyna with men... There was no women's division - just cute matches, Chyna was never going to get over there. Molly was with Crash, Jackie with APA etc... I think they knew what they were doing, it was a way to get rid of her
Chyna had a sweet gig. At the time, the women's division was still in its infancy. I think Lita/Ivory/Jacqueline were probably the only "real" wrestlers on the roster. That's easy money. Chyna dropped the ball.
Correct. The entire division and most of the stories could have been built around her. But no, she only wanted to wrestle men.
@@Y2JLionHeart Yeah it's a head scratcher for sure. Someone needed to sit down with her and tell her "Joanie look.....you're not a man."
@@Cjjjj902 Considering she had exclusively been wrestling men until Ivory and then winning the Women's championship, and the women were booked lesser than men, it made sense for her to only wrestle men. She's a former IC Champion and her nickname was the "9th Wonder of the World" because she was a jacked up Amazon fighting men, that's her brand.
@@imaratspal It actually didn't make sense or else Vince would have done anything in his power to keep her. Jacqueline also frequently wrestled men in both WCW and WWF/E but realized "Hey.....at the end of the day I'm still a woman" and had no issues competing in the women's division. Chyna still could have been the 9th wonder while wrestling other women, she thought she was too good to be in the women's division and out the door she went. She had it good and walked away from all of it.
@@Cjjjj902 They didn't keep Chyna because of the situation with Triple H & Stephanie. Had nothing to do with all of that you're describing. He would've easily continued booking her like before but that whole situation messes with her and she had insane demands to stay in the company (like being the highest paid person on the roster)
Man I just wished there were people there to help her more. It's really sad what happened to her. JR asked why did she want to be there? Probably because she loved her job. She was a superstar and maybe in the ring in front of fans is where she felt loved the most.
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But it also sounded like chyna was always unhappy backstage. And JR saw this and became worried that chyna would get into a poor mental state. Chyna would get depressed every time she saw Hunter and/or Steph. She never fully recovered from the break up. I almost think that chyna felt that she lost that one shot of having a loving long term husband. She didn’t expect to ever find anther.
As a business owner, relationships in the work place are a liability regardless. Some work out and some don't. But the fact remains the same, a business is a business and co-worker relationship's are a hit and miss. If the miss starts to effect the people or the jaded one involved and / or the moral of the overall work environment decisions will have to be made. But ,99% of the time they work themselves out. And there is no amount of money that can validate a person's worth.....period. Like I said, it's a tightrope that can result in all kinds of consequences, good or bad, and depends on the individuals involved and how it it intertwines with the overall moral as well as personally according to the individuals involved. I have had to make some tough choices to where it was a (lose lose) situation. But I do think that Chyna was a special talent, but there is no compensation, materialistic or money wise, in my opinion, for a broken heart. R.I.P Chyna
As a kid a was a believer in Chyna and liked her. Never knew about all this drama and guys not wanting to work with her.
Guys didn't want to work with her because no man wants to lose to a woman; no male wrestler wants to put a female wrestler over. Beating Chyna gives male wrestlers no credibility, while losing to her would destroy their credibility in the eyes of 1990s/2000s wrestling fans.
Love when Conrad says “this is just you and me talking” to anyone he’s doing a podcast with. Needs a shirt.
lmao
Finally, a JR clip that isn't popping every 5 seconds. Thank you guys for upgrading
In due respect to Chyna she needed WWF more than WWF needed her
If she was alive she probably would be getting a million dollars an appearance like all the other part timers.
Not really.
She falsely accused HHH of stuff. She would never be back.
She only died a few years back and nobody was calling her prior. Hell she turned to porn because she had so few options. She couldn't even make it in TNA.
@@misterpinkandyellow74 Lol Like Sable, accusing Vince of crap..& Vince actually owns the company!! it's so funny when people say someone will "never be back". Warrior & Jarrett literally extorted McMahon, & they weren't only welcome back, they're in the HOF.
@@sese6227 Chyna falsely accused Hunter of sexual abuse. This means there was no way in hell stephanie mcmahon would allow Chyna back in.
As sad as her story is, at the end of the day, she made mid to upper 6 figures a year if you count endorsements I am sure she still brought home over a million a year. PUt in big time feuds and was featured. Sure, the end of her WWE career was crap, but it's not like she struggled to put food on the table.
I have a Master in Engineering and I would be happy with a fraction of what she made
@@lukealadeen7836 Take yourself out of the equation.
@@ryanr20091 No. That's how interrelationships and understanding works. You relate it to your own experience. Get. Over. it.
Chyna was the women!! May she Rest In Peace
That’s a woman!?
I was at the 1996 In Your House at Chattanooga TN where she made her debut.
I was at Judgement Day 2001 where she had her last WWF match.
Wanted a 1million downside, never drew a dime.
Mike Graham 😊
Great clip
I liked Chyna back in the day but let's be honest, she became one of those people where it was never her and always somebody else's fault.
Messy breakup with HHH: Blamed him and Steph, no one really knows what really happened to this day apart from them three.
Demanded too much money to re-sign: Blamed the company. (Although her argument regarding being relegated to the Women's division after Wrestling Men for years was valid)
Went to Japan in 2002 to work for NJPW: Didn't work out
Dated X-Pac: Ended up falling into Porn & falsely accused him of Rape. Has also claimed Hunter was violent towards her when no one else has ever said that.
Briefly in TNA in 2011: Didn't last long there either.
I know it's a cruel thing to say especially now, but she's the common denominator here.
It's easy to feel sorry for her and to put more stock in her narratives than they probably deserve... but at the end of the day love triangles suck but they happen. People cheat and people get cheated on, but life goes on.
HHH did do Chyna kinda dirty (based on what we know), and I'm sure he felt awful when he heard about her death... but at the end of the day he is not responsible for her death. It's not fair to put the blame at his feet.
I remember hearing a story where she had popped a breast implant while in the ring. She had been wrestling a lot more than what she was supposed to, and decided she wanted to cut it back to what her contract stipulated, but VM told her she had to keep wrestling at the same rate, despite what her contract said. It seems that he was trying to get her to quit. Geeee I wonder why that could be...? Ahem (Stephanie/HHH), ahem.
Wrong, she ruptured a breast implant in 98, only a year after she started working for them. She went to her surgeon and told him she needed more robust implants due to her larger frame. That is how she ended up with implants named after her, the Chyna 2000's.
@@BerryNiceToMeetYou Oh. Guess I either didn’t remember it correctly, or the guy who told me it had it wrong.
Chyna WAS worth it !
I wanted to see nicole bass
Chyna definitely deserved "top pay" but definitely not Stone Cold money. Get real.
@@Cjjjj902 I agree Cj
Anybody else surprised by the face cam? I miss the grilled hamburger already.
I agree with the call that Vince and JR made, she was looking for an excuse to quit or to coast without working.
Also Xpac stated on Austin podcast that a tag team match with him and Joanie was set up in Japan. They offered her more money because she was a megastar out there and more popular than he was. He refused the match and it was a big argument because he wanted the same amount. Austin sounded like he agreed with him to. Sounds a bit similar to this one. I guess when it comes to a guy hes not believing in his own hype hes just letting you know what hes worth 🤷♀️🤷♀️
She flopped over there. The likes of Chono weren't going to appease some foreigner, especially a woman.
@@PatkaBoy831 That's not what the OP was actually talking about though, was it?
The former Sasha Banks might end up being a flop too, they still gotta pay her that money they agreed to pay her.
Imo X-Pac and most anyone else that worked with Chyna was a better wrestler than she was... were they worth as much as her? No. X Pac was not worth the same amount of money as her.
@@ButWhatIfItIsChyna was a star when she had the WWE machine behind her. That's why her value within the entertainment industry disappeared once she was gone. So without name recognition what did she have to offer? Same thing happened to sable and countless others
Not gonna lie, she had a great attitude about herself. Never sell yourself short...but at the same time...never think that you're above paying your dues. Even Stone Cold and Undertaker at one point were only such a draw and made only so much money.
She paid her dues so wtf are you on about? Lol
@@atlien1988no she didn’t. She couldn’t wrestle she sucked. She was one of the people that made their money based off appearance.
JR was a real one.
Man so sad about Chyna. I saw that segment where Chyna is consoling Triple H and I’m like damn Chyna has to suck it up :(
Chyna and Sable shot for the stars but didn’t land. Stone Cold became a side attraction in 2002. He just didn’t have that fire anymore.
Sable sucked. No talent.
Could you imagine Chyna and Beth Phoenix as a womans Tag Team... WWE doesn’t understand real talent
Are you stupid fanboy? Can’t you understand she wants the same pay as stone cold! No freaking way wwe or anyone gonna pay her that money.
I still love Chyna ❤️
Cant blame her for asking a million. Its a tough job with lots of risk and no heath benefits.
Can blame her for being delusional. Lots of people with far more talent than her made less than what JR even offered her. Really bad timing as well considering WCW and ECW disappeared and there was tons of talent who couldn't even get work.
@@geneanthony3421 We get it Gene, You hate women.
@@sese6227 of course because you can't possibly criticize women unless you hate them.
@@sese6227 we get it your an idiot
She would have been just fine competing in the women's division back when there really wasn't much of a division. It would have been easy money for Chyna. She didn't want that though. She probably got a bit greedy and it cost her.
I admire her attempt hut there were talent that deserved that more than her
Much love for chyna ❤️
Camp Director”s daughter gets the “best pickins” before/after the camp nurse :)
On Off The Record, Landsberg said he'd heard that Chyna asked for $800K a year but Chyna denies asking for that much but here and Chyna's sister said she wouldn't work for less than $1M guaranteed.
Chyna wasn't the most stable person. Her story was always changing. She even lied here and there. I believe Jim Ross in this situation.
My first Playboy chyna
Seem like she dies with a broken heart. One Love to her, Wished something would had been different for her far as her situation up to her death....RIP Love
Finally, wrestlers pay is explained, Finally !
Not like that anymore
Imagine Chyna vs Taya Valkrie 💞
I'm not a feminist, I want to make that clear, but why does she have to assume the consequences of a fallout of the relationship between her and HHH that JR describes at 8:16? "Why do you want to be here? Every time you come to work, you see Hunter." Why didn't JR ask this of Stephanie? Every time you come to work, you see Chyna? Why does Chyna and her career have to pay for HHH and Stephanie getting together? Why are JR, Vince and the company expecting her to separate from the company and to pay a price for HHH leaving her when he chose to leave for another female, Stephanie? The very least that WWE and Vince could've done was treat her fairly professionally. But they couldn't even do that. They pushed her out the door because the other two (HHH and Stephanie) got together.
One word. Nepotism.
Because Chyna was the one that was suicidal by her own admission, not Stephanie.
@@Tony-fq5bn Stephanie got to walk around completely unscathed.... because Daddy owned the company. She didn't even have to deal with backlash from her peers, from fear of getting in trouble. That wouldn't happen, in any other scenario.
Stephanie is the bosses daughter why would he ask her about seeing Chyna? Chyna's career was over because she was delusional when asking for money and picked the worst time possible to ask for money. She was never at Austin level, she was upper mid card at best. Hell WCW and ECW were both gone and there was an abundance of talent out there not getting used.
@@sese6227 Why should Stephanie get backlash, she wasn't in the relationship with Chyna? Triple H is the one who left her.
0:26 Now he's referring to Dave Meltzer as "our crack research team"?
He meant 'our researcher on crack'. LOL
Unless any of this ever came out of chyna's mouth herself, NOT nobodys elses its heresay..
I think he's lying because she did a q&a with rvd and said she really liked ivory Trish stratus etc
Also she mentioned she was asked about a rise in pay and said that she wouldn't mind that that's all she said regarding that.
They should have given it to her. She may not have been great in the ring but there’s no doubt she was a draw.
She deserved at least what WWF wasted on Benoit, Malenko & Saturn. She was worth more than those 3 combined.
What a joke jim Ross was Vince's toilet paper!!!! Then Vince flush him to😂😂😂😂
Jr says undertaker, Austin, "those cats" who were the other superstars with the million dollar contract?
Probably Rock, Big Show and Kane maybe. Don't know if Triple H would have that big of a contract by then. HBK was still collecting $750K a year from the WWE because Vince didn't want him going to WCW
She got too big for her shoes. I honestly thought maybe around 550k. Not on the level of Austin or Rock but defo someone people wanted to see regardless of gender. These talents needed to keep their ego in check, if she was a little more humble she could have stuck around for another year or two...
BS. Isn't it funny how that's always the case with the female talent, especially from that time....their "egos inflated" blah blah. Sunny, Sable, Chyna & it's always JR giving the spiel 🙄
if she was not at at a high level then why did she wrestle the top men in japan and was the first woman to have a intergender match in japan. she had a lot of value.
When you as person know how much your Worth you ask for more and Finding someone who could love her way she wanted too an being happy with someone
I decided it would be mutual! Lmao😂
John Malkovich - Stone Cold Steve Austin
Harrison Ford - Vince McMahon
Josh Brolin - JBL
Owen Wilson - Owen Hart
Ken Jeong - Sonny Onoo
Barry Pepper - Goldust/Dustin Runnels
Paul Giamatti - Paul Heyman
Channing Tatum - John Cena
Owen Hart...I'd cast the actor who plays Johnny in Karate Kid and Cobra Kai.
Who would you get to play Bret and Brian Pillman?
@@misterslats you know who I'm thinking for Bret? Pierce Brosnan if he grows his hair down and puts on some muscle for the role I could see him doing a very believable Bret. Pillman maybe someone like Sam Claflin? Not sure. Who would you get to play Taker though? Now that's one I can't think of anyone.
@@murraysaucedo897 Honestly if there was ONE wrestler who could portray themself better than any actor it would be Undertaker. With a wig he would still look exactly like his 1990's self.
stephanie could have had any guy on the roster she wanted , she chose hhh and wrecked Chyna's life. being with the bosses daughter also comes with lots of risks, if things hadnt have worked out between them HHH would have been kickin rocks also . Stephanie could bang any wrestler on the WWE roster right now and HHH would have to just accept it
Nobody plays the game like triple h from jobber to ceo hes a friekin genius
She didn’t choose HHH, they chose each other.
@@ricolewis2949 common she was already set for life the day she was born
@@ricolewis2949 lmao goofy 🤪
Was this during the split shows? I know they always had 2 shows but they sorta divided the talent to each brand. If it was I could see hunter n steph in raw n chyna on smackdown and tell them to stay apart.
She left before the brand extension. However even if she stayed remember Stephanie was smackdown gm for over a year and HHH was on Raw
@@jrad410 in the end I think they did her wrong. And if wcw was in better position in 2000 they could have used her. But she was still having issues I saw her interview on that show. She was walking around the truth with xpac. I absolutely believe him on his side of the story.
Everyone has different tastes but as non "feminine" as Chyna was she was still an attractive woman to some, is Stephanie more attractive that's personal opinion but no one deserves to feel shameful of who they are and not everyone is meant for each other.
Regardless of Chyna's & WWE's working relationship & or differences Chyna made a impact on future female talent, powerhouses such as Rhea Ripley, Shyna Baszler, Nia Jax even Natalia, their all different and unique and not stereotypical "beauty queens or cheerleader type" it girls.
Kinda agree with JR.
Them the breaks. They offered money, you think you are worth more, you balk and say "nah I'm out"
K. They had a tighter budget.They aren't desperate to keep you. And they sure as shit ain't paying you to sit.
/ Debate but fine if you want to talk breakup.
She went to JR about it. Why would you go to HR at that time with nothing?
2 minutes into this, and all I hear is Conrad reading to Old JR from a book. Two minutes of my soul that I'll never get back. C-ya.
She is only one of at least a thousand wrestlers who got screwed in that era.
What a load of crap, they got rid of her because Steph and Hunter wanted her gone.
Wrong.
Did JR ever explain why she was taken off the air SIX months before her contract was up while she still held the title? Well she's dead now so people can say anything. In old interviews in 01 after she left she was really professional about everything as well didnt throw anybody under the bus.
Darn...Chyna was making 7 figues plus! She truly was making tons of money, but she wanted her guarantee. I read Lita made almost 1 million and more than that in 2001.
Nothing was better than watching Chyna walk down the ramp wearing almost nothing but she wasn't worth 1 million
In my opinion the Mount Rushmore of WWE woman is Sable, Trish Stratus, Chyna, Mickie james , and Lita..... If youre on that list then u Defiently derserved a 1 million contract.
Idk about Mickie...
conrad looks exactly like chaz bono
I know I'm months behind adding a comment but I have to say this....I met this woman many years ago (long story involving a golf trip, an accident, and my family)and she was the epitome of grace and kindness. Yes, she stayed in character for a good bit of it but during the brief conversation (which she actually seemed interested in also hearing about me a bit ....she wasn't self centered at all ) she broke character and was Joanie for a bit. I know people give her shit for being Manish and such but ill not lie, as a young man I did have a thing for her (which I did admit to her when I met her lol.... hell being a medieval reenactor I even kissed her hand in a "chivalry is not desd" type of thing which i believe lead to her breaking character lo) and despite any stories about her being hermaphrodite or whatever (which have been debunked) I still think she was quite a woman. The whole "not conventionaly attractive" thing burns my buns because she was a very attractive woman...albeit one who could toss you around like a rag doll...and her muscleture was not that of huge muscles everywhere but more toned with the muscles pumped in right places (arms and legs for example)
"On letting Chyna leave."
Like you did her a favor lol. People do forget that the "good old JR" character is just that, a character. You've always been a pretty ruthless business man in the end.
But she was also acting ridiculous, she wasn’t Stone Cold Steve Austin and never was going to be.
They wouldn’t have been doing her a favor by keeping her either.
I feel this clip is going to be controversial make all the dirt sheets and go viral. A lot of wrestlers RUclipsrs going to go in on this.
One of the biggest mistakes WWE has ever made.
400k was more than generous. She fucked up with that
That’s BS... China was let go because Stephanie wanted her gone. HHH hid the relationship with Chyna because she looked like Sly Stallone earlier(and later) in her career. I can’t believe Ross laughed at that cruel hug joke segment. That company and family destroyed that fragile person. Lowball offer, then boot in the ass out the door. So cruel how Joanie was treated.
I agree, WWF treated her like dirt once HHH was hooked up with Steph and yes it's clear Steph was jealous of Joanie and wanted her gone. That poor girl was going through so much and deserved better.
I don’t think Steph was jealous, I just think she wanted her gone. Chyna had other opportunities, but she required a guidance that no one around was interested in providing.
@@bossman9873 Didn't Stephanie admit on Howard Stern that she & Triple H were dating when he & Chyna were broke up BUT he broke up with Stephanie to get back with Chyna? If so, maybe Stephanie wanted her gone because Triple H showed that he could easily leave her for Chyna because he did it before.
Her sister said she was offered £400k a year which she refused! That’s her own fault for refusing to honest! Only a few people where getting £1million around that time: (Rock, Austin, Taker, HHH) if she had taken the money, she would have had £400k guaranteed for a further 5 years unless she breached her contract.
She soon realised as big of a star that she was in WWE, without the WWE not many people care about them. Very very few people can remain as relevant/still have the star power when not in WWE (Rock, Austin, Hogan and Taker).
Stop blaming everyone else other than Chyna herself, she valued herself way higher than WWE valued her. After WWE, no one really wanted her. Her stock diminished fast. If she was still with WWE she’d be in more demand as well as earning her guaranteed £400k and much more from house shows, merchandise and side stuff.
@@porkchop1329Not quite, Vince forced Steph and Triple H to break up back in 2000 claiming it was bad for business, that was the only reason he tried to work it out with Chyna.
Chyna then found out he was seeing Steph whilst they were broken up. So whilst it was messy, he was never with both of them at the same time.
Chyna was my favorite! WWF undervalued her like they still do many women today despite the 'women's evolution. She was one of a kind and WWF was trash...
Face cams. Great move
Its easy to forget what a draw she was. But such a troubled person irl.
Stephanie had nothing on Chyna in the ring. To me Stephanie isn't good looking at all. That's why she had all that work done..
I like how people defend triple h for what he did to chyna and to the day people still defend him chyna deserve alot better
He did not do anything to Chyna. She did everything to herself.
@@chriskay1449 wow you are one dumbass person to believe that you are a triple h fan you think he did nothing wrong what a naive person you are
I think I read somewhere that she dated Brutus the fucking Barber Beefcake when she was younger.
This Chyna woman had the charisma of a grinder or a wooden door.
A WWE creation who thought was more than that.
With all do respect Chyna wasn't worth 1 million guaranteed. She wasn't on the same level as Stone Cold. I mean who actually draws more?
She was never going to get that kind of money from WWE. Sable was more popular than she was and WWE gave her the boot when her head got big so Chyna should of learned something from that. She would of made 1 to 2 mil a year if she had just stayed on with the company and with the brand split in 2002 they could of easily put Haitch, Steph on Smackdown and Chyna on RAW and kept them seperated.
Nicole bass vs chyna would of been cool
She probably was like... Um, yal paying Shawn 2 be home @ 750k yr for like 5 years. If offered Shawn money.. She'd been happy
also wwe was still making money off of her name
If WWE wanted to make Chyna a star on the level of Stone Cold or The Rock they absolutely could have. To this day she's the only female performer who was over nearly as much as the top guys in the company at the time, especially in 1999 and 2000. She wasn't the greatest promo or worker but her look was phenomenal and the fans loved her. In fact I think it's possible she could have been the first female WWE champion if not for the circumstances between Triple H and Stephanie.
I don't necessarily fault Triple H or Stephanie for having an affair, falling in love, etc. Was it a shitty move? Absolutely, but the heart wants what the heart wants. It's a shame that it clearly took a toll not only on Chyna's career but her mental health too. That said, I'll play devil's advocate and say that given these unfortunate circumstances there was never a way to keep Chyna at a top tier level in the company without more drama ensuing. So to that degree I understand why she was put out to pasture.
Regardless, it no doubt had a hand in the path Chyna went down after she "left" WWE. She was very talented and had a tremendous presence in the industry.
Well, you can certainly blame them for the way they acted afterwards, can't you? I mean, since you're giving a grown adults a pass, for "falling in love" aka an affair lol How about the way they basically blackballed her, & pretended she didn't exist, as she was begging for acknowledgement from the company she gave Everything to? All the woman wanted was an induction into the HOF, when she was alive to see it. It's so bizarre, how people give that a "pass". Now, the WWE is wishing her a Happy birthday, & acknowledging her w DX & fans are applauding it 🙄 Let's not pretend HHH & Steph weren't behind the BS. It's funny how Chyna was held to such high standards, yet they have people in the HOF who've done p0rn, who have been to prison, who have DV convictions etc.
She was never near the level of Austin or Rock, she was a novelty act who's only remembered because they had her beat guys. She was woman's champion around the time she left. Her time had past. She also asked for money at the worst possible time with WCW and ECW gone. Japan wouldn't use women really either so she had nowhere to really go.
Chyna was not nearly as over as this. You said it yourself, she had a great look but she wasn't a worker or a good promo. You need at minimum decent work and a good promo to be that over. I liked Chyna, but she was at best as over as your mid-carders.
she would have been champion she said but because she did playboy she didnt
also was the first woman that was allowed to wrestle in japan.
You can’t tell me that if jr was in that position he doesn’t make more money the more the company saves. Entertainment is dog eat dog and Joanie was an easy target
My question is this, was Chyna bring in the big bucks to WWE? And secondly, did she have alot of fans? Even if its wasn't a million, they could of gave her more money if that was the case! No one...Quits or leaves a job without having a back up, or they had enough of the bull shit!!
6:17. Chyna as good as someone else might think WAS NEVER EVER EVER as good as Steve Austin was. Hell the Rock was never as good as Steve Austin was. The Rock was at best a jobber compared to Austin. So Chyna would be the equivalent of a Ring Rat... in my opinion... 🤷♂️
Rock had already surpassed Austin in 1999 and has now transended the business to become the biggest crossover star EVER. Rock has 400m followers compared to 7m for Austin on instagram. Austin is literally a speck of dust compared to the Rock.
If she was slated to beat Austin for the WWF title but was then offered to settle for the intercontinental championship with Jeff Jerret instead because Austin did not want to put a woman over and lose to a woman. That clearly right there shows, she was on that level especially with the popularity of DX in 2001.
Dx ended late 2000 dude
I mean, is that even an official thing? Every time I heard that brought up, it was someone saying it was a rumor.
Stone Cold didn't like to job to anyone aka Brock so I wouldn't be surprised.
She was not ever going To beat austin You just wanted that to happen smh sad
She was never even close to Austin level, nobody was with the exception of the Rock. He saved the WWE, she couldn't even get a contract in wrestling after she left and had one match in TNA. She was not even in DX in 2001. She was the woman's champion. She was a novelty act.
Dude if chyna never did porn and didn’t have a drug problem,
Her coming back and doing an angle with Stephanie McMahon would’ve drawn so much fucking money!!!!!! Like that would’ve been the ultimate fucking angle!!!
The best thing for her to have done was to take time offnaway from wrestling and WWE. Find whatever projects she could for a year or two and then reachout after everything had blown over. Instead she went on stern and other talk shows talking crap. Then turned into an absolute train wreck. I feel for her tho. RIP
She should have taken the 400k guarantee if that's what she was offered. That's still a shit ton of guaranteed money. Also, I think she was pissed Vince wanted her to wrestle in the women's division. I don't get why she would be. She was a woman. She wasn't THAT much bigger than the other women by 2001. I thought her vs Lita was believable.
Guess you've never had the expense of working on the road 250 days a year.
@@user-ed5ti4di7r You have no clue what you're talking about. 400k in 2001 would be 700k in today's money. Anybody could easily live on that unless they're a complete idiot. WWE wrestlers have food (catering) and plane tickets paid for by the company. Wrestlers back in the 80s and 90s used to make a fraction of that money and work more dates. It's called splitting cheap hotel rooms, eating at affordable restaurants, and splitting cheap car rentals. At 400k a year back then, Chyna wouldn't have had to make any sacrifices. She could live like a queen.
Thompson looks like Mark Mangino or Luke Combs
Conrad, the Alabama Dream.
@@henrikschmidt3964 I could see that to lolol
Joanie had a lot of issues.
Going back to the WWE wasn't going to solve those issues
Things end, and she wasn't a hit in Hollywood
She ran out of road.
$1m guarantee
JR you sure it was because of her well being? Didn't do a whole angle with edge matt and lita
That was done to shut Matt up so the fans would stop hijacking the show.