Sawyer and Juliet really is such a well done immediate ship that works. My love for Juliet never ends. Her face when she finally is able to deliver a baby is amazing
You know, I think I just realized something about why I enjoy watching your Lost reactions so much. On the one hand, coming from a television production background, you can analyze the structure of the show and think from a writer's point of view. But you also have a lot of empathy for the characters (as evidenced by how upset you appeared to get when you speculated that Rose and Bernard might be the "Adam and Eve" found in the cave) even though you, of course, know they are "merely" fictional characters. This all makes me very excited to finish off this journey with you!
It never ceases to amaze me that they got me much more invested in Sawyer/Juliet within 1 episode(they laid some groundwork for it before but still) than they ever did with Kate and Jack/Sawyer. I just love Sawyer and Juliet together.
Producer: What happens this season? Writer: The survivors go back to the seventies and live with the Dharma & Greg Initiative for 3 years. Producer: Going back to the seventies is tight!
Season 5 is so unique and such a departure from where this all started. After all these years I am still stunned that the writers had the ability to craft this story and the balls to even attempt it. The acting this season gets more and more amazing. Can’t wait to get Neil’s reaction to all of it!
In season 2, Sawyer said "There's a new sheriff in town, boys. You best be getting used to it." In this episode, he becomes the sheriff in Dharmaville.
So, I'm finally caught up. I've been binge watching your reactions to LOST for the last three days. I'm sending you a bill for my eye doc visit, since my eyes have been strained looking at the screen non-stop. I didn't see this show when it came out. I guess I watched the whole thing in 2012. I surely had lots of questions when I watched it, just as you do, but, you're putting things together a lot better than I did. It's pretty crazy how close you are to eventual story lines at various times during your trip through this show.
Kudos to the writers for selling the new ship of Juliet and Sawyer in one episode. My favorite couple on the show. Love seeing Dharma in all it's 70's glory! Great reaction Neil! Namaste
Lindelof spoke about that a few times and he heavily credits the actors for that. The writers weren't sure if it would work and the actors themselves weren't sure, but they did the work and it turned out great.
Sawyer and Juliet will forever be one of my most favorite tv series couples. They seem to have found what they needed in eachother. Im so glad you liked the episode.
I don't know why I find this so amusing but if it's the late 70's on The Island and assuming the Dharma Initiative can watch network television, I like to imagine them tuning in to Fantasy Island every week. Or perhaps that show's creator, Aaron Spelling, was a former member of Dharma and left to return to the mainland, became a television producer and based Fantasy Island on his experience living on The Island? And wait...then did Aaron Spelling base Mr. Roarke on Jacob??
This is a great episode, I love the 3 year back and forth and completely buy the Juliet Sawyer relationship, and its so sweet how they portray it here. Sawyer has already had this huge personal growth on the island and starting to take more of a leadership role and caring about people and then you can imagine 3 years has only added to that. Juliet is sweet and kind but also really tough because of her experiences and has this great ironic sense of humor. Normally I'm not that into a love triangle or quadrangle story but it really works here and I think because we love and care about all the characters we are very invested in their individual happiness.
neil, you may remember Horace as the evil guard in the Green Mile as well as making news years back as being an older guy marrying the 16 year old girl who ended up becoming a reality star or something
I must say, I think Horace Godspeed is a great leader. Being willing to let his people suffer the consequences. I mean, you could argue he’s manipulating her but i think he’s a good man
first we could look forward to the clap to begin each NEIL Talks LOST reaction.... now (and until the end of the series) we can look forward to the clap followed by "I am still trying to wrap my head around the last episode" to begin each NEIL Talks LOST reaction.
You completely misunderstood what the captain (Gould) said about Ben. He actually CONFIRMED to Desmond and Sayid, that the found 815 wreck was staged by CHARLES WIDMORE. The only context he mentioned Ben within was "how does anyone find over 300 dead bodies?" . I admit, it was phrased pretty vaguely, but at no point in time did he make it look as if BEN staged the whole fake 815 wreckage. I don´t understand, how you could come to such a conclusion.
Great reaction once again Neil. Thanks for the kind sentiment at the end. The Fifth season was a mind bender when I watched it in its initial broadcast. I would preogram the VCR (remember those?) so I could re-watch the episodes several times. The anticipation from week to week was terrific. By that time I was going on a lot of internet forums to check out what other losties had to write. Lots of speculation going 'round. Nice to see you doing all that in your head between reactions. You're awesome. Did you work on Shogun? I'm just curious.
According to "The Man Behind the Curtain", Ben was born in December 1962. When it comes to Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Juliet; I think it's more complicated than you seemed to think it is. Jack and Kate could have had a healthy relationship if they had not been emeshed in the lies regarding Oceanic Six and especially Aaron. Sawyer and Juliet are doing fine. But even their relationship is caught in Sawyer's deception to keep them at the Dharma compound. How long will it take before his lie makes it difficult for them? Why did Sawyer create this lie in the first place? I think he made a big mistake. I can't help but feel that he, Juliet, Miles, Jin and Daniel should have taken their chances by creating a camp somewhere else on the island. I still believe that Kate has always been in love with Jack. And although she has deep affection for Sawyer, she had a habit of using him when her relationship with Jack ran into troubled waters. Now I find myself wondering how Sawyer and Juliet will behave if the Oceanic Six makes trouble for them.
You saw the story from the perspective of the losties, so widmore looked like a bad guy sending mercs to the island. But what if he's the good guy, and Ben is THAT bad that he sent mercs to the island to get him.
Sawyer didn't know how to love Cassidy, Kate didn't know how to love Sawyer. Then came Juliet. They complete eachother and i think she brings out the best in Sawyer and Sawyer makes her feel more confident and less insecure!
Kate never loved Sawyer. Not really. I can recall a flashforward scene from the Season Four finale that featured a photograph of Kate, Aaron and Jack inside Kate's home. And this scene had occurred after her breakup with Jack. That photograph told me that despite their breakup, Kate remained in love with Jack.
This is possibly my favourite episode of the series. Neil, I dont know if you still read these posts, but to answer your question from the previous episode, this show gets better because each season, it adds another layer to the story building on what's come before while the foreshadowing of these layers have been there from the beginning. I've loved your reactions this season. When you laugh and get excited, I laugh and get excited. I said before season 5 is my favourite seaon and I think you can see why.
The birth of Sawyer Hartman and Juliet Burke as a couple. It’s in my opinion the happiest we’ve seen Sawyer since letting go of his baggage in season 3. One of my FAVORITE episodes of the season. 😎
@@theshadowfax239 he's been using that for multiple reactors and it's weird. I think he explained why he used Hartman before and it was rather lame. He needs to know that Hartman will never catch on with Lostverse and needs to quit already 🤷
So you are telling me that after Locke turned the wheel one last time Sawyer and crew didn’t go investigate the statue knowing what direction it was in?
@@kuhpunkt To investigate if there are people because the statue had to have been built by people. To investigate what happened to the enormous statue. To investigate if there is anything else there lower that could have been hidden from their sight because of the trees.
@@kuhpunkt If the statue is a man-made structure where are the people who built it? Do they live at the bottom of the statue or somewhere else? If the original builders are not there what about future generations? Why would there be anything lower because who knows since the island is full of mysteries?
@@Patrick76399 They have been on the island before... there was nothing else. And people... why would they be there at the statue? And THEY WERE NO LONGER IN THE SAME TIME FRAME AS THE STATUE! And they were just about to die, fighting to survive, no camp to rest, no food... "oh hey, we were just in the past, let's investigate a statue that nobody in our group cares about."
I absolutely love Juliet & Sawyer, but I love/loved Kate & Jack too. The media tired me of the triangle when the show aired live, but binge watching, it doesn’t seem as pronounced. Yes, she went back and forth, but it seems fairly obvious she felt a connection to sawyer due to their likeness, but always wanted Jack. She used Sawyer, not necessarily in a mean way, but it was selfish. I think they were toxic together, and both knew it. Juliet was exactly what Sawyer needed, and vice versa. They both grew in confidence and as people. Would love to have seen more of Jack & Kate if the island didn’t mess with them. Jack really grew on the island letting Kate go even to a fault. I think they were great together in general. I need to figure out how to use Patreon. I only follow two reaction shows (including yours) so I haven’t really been into the whole show reaction thing. This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone react to lost. Loving this so much
Widmore and Ben are both murderous, lying sacks of ish. But I at least have some sympathy for Ben due to his childhood. Widmore's actions toward Desmond are unforgivable and the show has given me No reason to do anything but despise him. His only redeeming quality at this point in the series is that he's Penny's father.
I love your theory that the ossified couple found in season 1 could be Rose and Bernard even though it is heartbreaking to consider (also beautiful!). It doesn't explain the pouch with the white stone and black stone still. Also, yes I too was hit in the chest with the unexpected strong ship that was Sawyer and Juliet. How could they rise so fast to almost Desmond and Penny level?
Before this episode I noticed the chemistry between Sawyer and Juliet really early on, I even noticed it when they worked together in the season 3 finale so I had been waiting for it and was so happy it was finally official. Juliet had a way of calming Sawyer down and she has had his back all season, never questioned him. They have a very healthy relationship, after what Kate pulled in Eggtown and how she used Sawyer again I was so done with them, she pissed me off. I normally like Kate but ever since season 3 she irritated the crap out of me!
It's funny to think that Sawyer would never get to where he is in this episode if he hadn't closed the revenge chapter of his life by killing the man from Tallahassee. He went from distrusting backstabing jerk to loveable leader in less than0 2 seasons.
What? There was nothing positive about Sawyer murdering Anthony Cooper. It was a very weak and spiteful moment for him. And a day or more after killing Cooper, Sawyer murdered Tom Friendly in cold blood. What makes this murder pathetic is that Sawyer pretended that it was in retaliation for Walt's kidnapping. Yet, he never went after Ben for that reason. Murdering someone shouldn't be the solution to revenge. Sawyer shouldn't have spent nearly three decades seeking revenge in the first place.
Juliet def isn't most people's 2nd choice. Fr. In a group of 20k people, a huge majority, male and female, prefer Sawyer with Juliet. Not Kate. I promise.
I have always thought that after James killed Locke’s Dad, the real Sawyer, he ceased to be that part of his personality. He becomes more of a leader and wants to settle down with Kate. After she is gone, Juliet fills that role, and he becomes LaFleur, a much different man in a good relationship. “Sawyer” is truly dead.
So murder makes a man a better person? Is that the moral of Sawyer's arc? I find that hard to swallow since Sawyer had murdered a defenseless Tom Friendly in cold blood after killing Locke's dad.
Welcome to Dharma times. Now brace yourself for the 2 most insufferable characters on the whole show 🤔 (you saw one of them in the intro to this episode; the other was previously alluded to in the Season 2 finale). Also, first big continuity error of the show: they flashed back to 1974, yet, in S4E2, Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979 (when Rebecca Mader was actually born).
Doesn't have to be a continuity error. Ben could just have made a mistake when he recalled the information... or Michael gave him bad intel. Easy to retcon.
Also remember from what it sounds like Charlotte's mom pretty much gaslit her and told her the Island was a figment of her imagination. Wouldn't be at all surprised if she had a fake birth certificate, or something like that
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Sawyer and Juliet really is such a well done immediate ship that works. My love for Juliet never ends. Her face when she finally is able to deliver a baby is amazing
"I have a new favorite ship!" - It's the Black Rock, isn't it?
Raft. /Michael's "WAAAAAALT" face/
Sawyer is definatly the hero of season 5! What a long way he's come, beautiful character growth! An a*hole with a big heart.
This episode was like the first episodes of S4 for Jack and his badass moments
You know, I think I just realized something about why I enjoy watching your Lost reactions so much. On the one hand, coming from a television production background, you can analyze the structure of the show and think from a writer's point of view. But you also have a lot of empathy for the characters (as evidenced by how upset you appeared to get when you speculated that Rose and Bernard might be the "Adam and Eve" found in the cave) even though you, of course, know they are "merely" fictional characters. This all makes me very excited to finish off this journey with you!
This episode is definitely in my top 5, maybe top 3. Feels like a mini movie within itself.
It never ceases to amaze me that they got me much more invested in Sawyer/Juliet within 1 episode(they laid some groundwork for it before but still) than they ever did with Kate and Jack/Sawyer. I just love Sawyer and Juliet together.
At least I like one of those people. I don't like Jack or Kate. I really like Juliet. She's badass without losing her femininity.
Producer: What happens this season?
Writer: The survivors go back to the seventies and live with the Dharma & Greg Initiative for 3 years.
Producer: Going back to the seventies is tight!
Super easy , barely an inconvenience.
wowwowow wow wow wow
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If Neil started reacting to Pitch meetings, my life would be complete.
Season 5 is so unique and such a departure from where this all started. After all these years I am still stunned that the writers had the ability to craft this story and the balls to even attempt it. The acting this season gets more and more amazing. Can’t wait to get Neil’s reaction to all of it!
This episode is one of the reasons this is my favorite season. Sawyer and Juliet are up there with Desmond and Penny as my favorite pairings.
This episode is one of the reasons why season 5 is my second favorite season!! Glad you enjoyed it!!
In season 2, Sawyer said "There's a new sheriff in town, boys. You best be getting used to it." In this episode, he becomes the sheriff in Dharmaville.
One of the all time great episodes right here.
Whoever first dug the well probably did so because there was a rope sticking out of the ground.
I've caught up with your vids, so I had to wait for this for the first time. But it's worth it. You're probably my favourite Lost reactor so far.
So, I'm finally caught up. I've been binge watching your reactions to LOST for the last three days. I'm sending you a bill for my eye doc visit, since my eyes have been strained looking at the screen non-stop.
I didn't see this show when it came out. I guess I watched the whole thing in 2012. I surely had lots of questions when I watched it, just as you do, but, you're putting things together a lot better than I did. It's pretty crazy how close you are to eventual story lines at various times during your trip through this show.
Kudos to the writers for selling the new ship of Juliet and Sawyer in one episode. My favorite couple on the show. Love seeing Dharma in all it's 70's glory! Great reaction Neil! Namaste
Lindelof spoke about that a few times and he heavily credits the actors for that. The writers weren't sure if it would work and the actors themselves weren't sure, but they did the work and it turned out great.
Love watching Sawyer use his lying/leader powers for good.
Sawyer and Juliet are soo believable for the short screen time they showed us.
Great reactions neil hope your doing well aswell this series is a fantastic way to get your mind off everything
Have been waiting for Neil to watch this episode and see his reaction, was worth the wait.
Sawyer and Juliet will forever be one of my most favorite tv series couples. They seem to have found what they needed in eachother. Im so glad you liked the episode.
I don't know why I find this so amusing but if it's the late 70's on The Island and assuming the Dharma Initiative can watch network television, I like to imagine them tuning in to Fantasy Island every week. Or perhaps that show's creator, Aaron Spelling, was a former member of Dharma and left to return to the mainland, became a television producer and based Fantasy Island on his experience living on The Island? And wait...then did Aaron Spelling base Mr. Roarke on Jacob??
This episode is in my top 5! So excited to watch you react to this one... 😁
This is a great episode, I love the 3 year back and forth and completely buy the Juliet Sawyer relationship, and its so sweet how they portray it here. Sawyer has already had this huge personal growth on the island and starting to take more of a leadership role and caring about people and then you can imagine 3 years has only added to that. Juliet is sweet and kind but also really tough because of her experiences and has this great ironic sense of humor. Normally I'm not that into a love triangle or quadrangle story but it really works here and I think because we love and care about all the characters we are very invested in their individual happiness.
Great Episode Great reaction as always
You were destined to find this show
Your path lead you to the Island 🏝
neil, you may remember Horace as the evil guard in the Green Mile as well as making news years back as being an older guy marrying the 16 year old girl who ended up becoming a reality star or something
Rose & Benard. Very clever theory
they did such a good job introducing Sawyer and Juliet together! I'm so happy i can finaly talk about my favorite couple!!!
An amazing episode for Sawyer. A+ for Juliet too.
I must say, I think Horace Godspeed is a great leader. Being willing to let his people suffer the consequences. I mean, you could argue he’s manipulating her but i think he’s a good man
I think Sawyer and Juliet make a great couple because they seem to believe in each other.
Love this! Yes, such a different relationship between him and Kate who seem to commiserate in their criminal pasts.
first we could look forward to the clap to begin each NEIL Talks LOST reaction.... now (and until the end of the series) we can look forward to the clap followed by "I am still trying to wrap my head around the last episode" to begin each NEIL Talks LOST reaction.
This is my favorite episode of the entire show.
It's always Richard.. No matter when and where.. Its always Richard
We don't know for sure Widmore really supported helping John but we do know it wasn't working and it was going nowhere until John was dead
You completely misunderstood what the captain (Gould) said about Ben. He actually CONFIRMED to Desmond and Sayid, that the found 815 wreck was staged by CHARLES WIDMORE. The only context he mentioned Ben within was "how does anyone find over 300 dead bodies?" . I admit, it was phrased pretty vaguely, but at no point in time did he make it look as if BEN staged the whole fake 815 wreckage. I don´t understand, how you could come to such a conclusion.
17:41 Hey! Someone who knows what that is.
Great reaction once again Neil. Thanks for the kind sentiment at the end. The Fifth season was a mind bender when I watched it in its initial broadcast. I would preogram the VCR (remember those?) so I could re-watch the episodes several times. The anticipation from week to week was terrific. By that time I was going on a lot of internet forums to check out what other losties had to write. Lots of speculation going 'round. Nice to see you doing all that in your head between reactions. You're awesome. Did you work on Shogun? I'm just curious.
I've been looking forward to your reaction of this episode. One of the best in my opinion.
According to "The Man Behind the Curtain", Ben was born in December 1962. When it comes to Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Juliet; I think it's more complicated than you seemed to think it is. Jack and Kate could have had a healthy relationship if they had not been emeshed in the lies regarding Oceanic Six and especially Aaron. Sawyer and Juliet are doing fine. But even their relationship is caught in Sawyer's deception to keep them at the Dharma compound. How long will it take before his lie makes it difficult for them? Why did Sawyer create this lie in the first place? I think he made a big mistake. I can't help but feel that he, Juliet, Miles, Jin and Daniel should have taken their chances by creating a camp somewhere else on the island. I still believe that Kate has always been in love with Jack. And although she has deep affection for Sawyer, she had a habit of using him when her relationship with Jack ran into troubled waters. Now I find myself wondering how Sawyer and Juliet will behave if the Oceanic Six makes trouble for them.
MY BELOVED SULIET 🥰🌻🥰
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@@hastobe303 Jimliet!
Life is goooood!!
0:00 My Favorite Episode!
LaFleur was one of the great episodes of the series… season 6 has a lot of bangers.
You saw the story from the perspective of the losties, so widmore looked like a bad guy sending mercs to the island. But what if he's the good guy, and Ben is THAT bad that he sent mercs to the island to get him.
What if both Ben and Widmore are just power hungry pieces of shit?
@@kevinjoy7728 very possible
Is this a great freaking show or what!
Sawyer didn't know how to love Cassidy, Kate didn't know how to love Sawyer. Then came Juliet. They complete eachother and i think she brings out the best in Sawyer and Sawyer makes her feel more confident and less insecure!
Kate never loved Sawyer. Not really. I can recall a flashforward scene from the Season Four finale that featured a photograph of Kate, Aaron and Jack inside Kate's home. And this scene had occurred after her breakup with Jack. That photograph told me that despite their breakup, Kate remained in love with Jack.
This is possibly my favourite episode of the series.
Neil, I dont know if you still read these posts, but to answer your question from the previous episode, this show gets better because each season, it adds another layer to the story building on what's come before while the foreshadowing of these layers have been there from the beginning.
I've loved your reactions this season. When you laugh and get excited, I laugh and get excited. I said before season 5 is my favourite seaon and I think you can see why.
Although this is one of my favorite episodes, I'm beginning to have second evaluations about Sawyer's choice.
The birth of Sawyer Hartman and Juliet Burke as a couple. It’s in my opinion the happiest we’ve seen Sawyer since letting go of his baggage in season 3. One of my FAVORITE episodes of the season. 😎
Where'd you get the name Hartman from?
@@theshadowfax239 he's been using that for multiple reactors and it's weird. I think he explained why he used Hartman before and it was rather lame. He needs to know that Hartman will never catch on with Lostverse and needs to quit already 🤷
So you are telling me that after Locke turned the wheel one last time Sawyer and crew didn’t go investigate the statue knowing what direction it was in?
Well, there was no more statue... so what should they investigate?
@@kuhpunkt To investigate if there are people because the statue had to have been built by people. To investigate what happened to the enormous statue. To investigate if there is anything else there lower that could have been hidden from their sight because of the trees.
@@Patrick76399 Why would/should there be people?! And what would there be lower?! They've been on the island for a while already.
@@kuhpunkt If the statue is a man-made structure where are the people who built it? Do they live at the bottom of the statue or somewhere else? If the original builders are not there what about future generations? Why would there be anything lower because who knows since the island is full of mysteries?
@@Patrick76399 They have been on the island before... there was nothing else.
And people... why would they be there at the statue? And THEY WERE NO LONGER IN THE SAME TIME FRAME AS THE STATUE!
And they were just about to die, fighting to survive, no camp to rest, no food... "oh hey, we were just in the past, let's investigate a statue that nobody in our group cares about."
In my top 3!! Lafleur!!!
Juliet is nobody's second choice. First choice all the way.
I absolutely love Juliet & Sawyer, but I love/loved Kate & Jack too. The media tired me of the triangle when the show aired live, but binge watching, it doesn’t seem as pronounced. Yes, she went back and forth, but it seems fairly obvious she felt a connection to sawyer due to their likeness, but always wanted Jack. She used Sawyer, not necessarily in a mean way, but it was selfish. I think they were toxic together, and both knew it. Juliet was exactly what Sawyer needed, and vice versa. They both grew in confidence and as people. Would love to have seen more of Jack & Kate if the island didn’t mess with them. Jack really grew on the island letting Kate go even to a fault. I think they were great together in general.
I need to figure out how to use Patreon. I only follow two reaction shows (including yours) so I haven’t really been into the whole show reaction thing. This is the first time I’ve ever seen someone react to lost. Loving this so much
Widmore and Ben are both murderous, lying sacks of ish. But I at least have some sympathy for Ben due to his childhood. Widmore's actions toward Desmond are unforgivable and the show has given me No reason to do anything but despise him. His only redeeming quality at this point in the series is that he's Penny's father.
I love your theory that the ossified couple found in season 1 could be Rose and Bernard even though it is heartbreaking to consider (also beautiful!).
It doesn't explain the pouch with the white stone and black stone still.
Also, yes I too was hit in the chest with the unexpected strong ship that was Sawyer and Juliet. How could they rise so fast to almost Desmond and Penny level?
...And Where is Vincent all this time?
Before this episode I noticed the chemistry between Sawyer and Juliet really early on, I even noticed it when they worked together in the season 3 finale so I had been waiting for it and was so happy it was finally official. Juliet had a way of calming Sawyer down and she has had his back all season, never questioned him. They have a very healthy relationship, after what Kate pulled in Eggtown and how she used Sawyer again I was so done with them, she pissed me off. I normally like Kate but ever since season 3 she irritated the crap out of me!
Top 5 episode for me. Sawyer is my favorite character & Juliet is my 5th
Sawliette? LMAO
It's funny to think that Sawyer would never get to where he is in this episode if he hadn't closed the revenge chapter of his life by killing the man from Tallahassee. He went from distrusting backstabing jerk to loveable leader in less than0 2 seasons.
What? There was nothing positive about Sawyer murdering Anthony Cooper. It was a very weak and spiteful moment for him. And a day or more after killing Cooper, Sawyer murdered Tom Friendly in cold blood. What makes this murder pathetic is that Sawyer pretended that it was in retaliation for Walt's kidnapping. Yet, he never went after Ben for that reason. Murdering someone shouldn't be the solution to revenge. Sawyer shouldn't have spent nearly three decades seeking revenge in the first place.
Juliet def isn't most people's 2nd choice. Fr. In a group of 20k people, a huge majority, male and female, prefer Sawyer with Juliet. Not Kate. I promise.
I have always thought that after James killed Locke’s Dad, the real Sawyer, he ceased to be that part of his personality. He becomes more of a leader and wants to settle down with Kate. After she is gone, Juliet fills that role, and he becomes LaFleur, a much different man in a good relationship. “Sawyer” is truly dead.
So murder makes a man a better person? Is that the moral of Sawyer's arc? I find that hard to swallow since Sawyer had murdered a defenseless Tom Friendly in cold blood after killing Locke's dad.
Welcome to Dharma times. Now brace yourself for the 2 most insufferable characters on the whole show 🤔 (you saw one of them in the intro to this episode; the other was previously alluded to in the Season 2 finale).
Also, first big continuity error of the show: they flashed back to 1974, yet, in S4E2, Ben said Charlotte was born in 1979 (when Rebecca Mader was actually born).
Doesn't have to be a continuity error. Ben could just have made a mistake when he recalled the information... or Michael gave him bad intel. Easy to retcon.
Also remember from what it sounds like Charlotte's mom pretty much gaslit her and told her the Island was a figment of her imagination. Wouldn't be at all surprised if she had a fake birth certificate, or something like that
And this is when I started disliking Kate.
Why ? She's like 2min in the episode and she does nothing expect getting out of a car.
@@ptitepeluche05 For me she gets worse as the episodes go on.
@@ptitepeluche05 That made me laugh as it was just what I was thinking!