Very glad to see you in Nat Dex. Its my personal favorite metagame, and it unfortunately doesnt have a lot of high level play surrounding it on youtube.
As the Champion of NDNU and NDPU (yes those tiers exist, we just play through discord because there is no ladder) I welcome you to the broader ND community and I Hope you have fun. NDUU and all the tiers below have tera banned by the way, so NDOU would just be following it's own lower tiers.
Interesting team; you mentioned just wanting to load something standard but nearly all of your mons have non-standard sets in NDOU lol. Adamant Lopunny, Protect Ferro, max speed Lando, Taunt Koko, Iron Treads in general and SpDef Slowbro are all non-standard.
Check out natdex uu. Tera is banned which makes it a lot less chaotic. Pokemon without tera is just so much better, it's too important and unpredictable to get right
I think it would be very informative if you could you do some similar things in ndou you did in ou. like rating peoples teams and doing team building streams and the sort.
I main natdex but man is tera a lot less fun to deal with in natdex. Would love to see more natdex content from you and also hoping the potential tera suspect ends in a ban.
Pinkacross: "You need a wisp user, encore user and 2 Dark resists" Me with toxic being my only status move, no encore users and Darkrai being my only dark resist: "Sweats nerviously"
Interesting because the current Natdex discussion thread is chock full of people complaining that the meta is even more tilted in favor of offense volatility compared to regular OU
Maybe it's less that NatDex doesn't have a proliferation of offensive threats, but NatDex's offensive threats don't feel AS bad to deal with as OU's offensive threats in contrast. Or, failing that, maybe the wealth of options makes it more teambuilder friendly than OU is?
@@waaaaaaah The wealth of options also makes offensive threats harder to deal with, and there's naturally more offensive options than defensive to deal with. There's a reason why the community survey for natdex is consistently lower score for balance/competitiveness perception.
@@RocketPropelledMexican considering that, I think then it might just be down to NatDex being a breath of fresh air compared to OU, which Pinka must've been playing almost exclusively for a year or two. A new meta to explore and turn on its head would be more fun that stale old OU.
@@pinkacross2042Stats wise it may be arbitrary but if an opponent looks at a Slowbro on the team he'll probably think it's defensive and you can get an advantage that way.
I always loved Nat Dex...I just kinda build 10000 teams with Mega Sceptile and try to make it work... Would be very interesting to see you review one of these teams in a video Glad to see you try Nat Dex :)
@@pinkacross2042 I might stand corrected, was playing ladder today and ran into one of the better/respected builders on there and he was running sub/cm/psynoise/tachyon crown. Might be a new thing he's just trying, idk
Hey really cool to see you try out natdex, metagame is way better than svou rn (not like its a a high bar to cross). They're actually supecting tera for the THIRD TIME so I would really like to see your input on what your thoughts are on that. If you wanna see what natdex could be if it gets banned you should def try out NDUU. Tier is incredibly fun, and even if ladder is a wasteland, the cord and community are really nice and you can def get some good games in there.
7:25 you know, if most youtubers said 'you need to have a wisp user and an encore user and two dark resists on your team' I'd think they were just whining. But if pinkacross says teambuilding is stupidly overconstrained, I'm pretty sure teambuilding is stupidly overconstrained.
Gambit isn't THAT bad I guess, there are a lot of ways to counter it, but it is very nice to play the game not worrying about such a powerful reverse-sweeper in the back. There's a gambit Tera for every endgame.
Just wait for the new anime to drop Tera Flying Mega Rayquaza! Showdown better implement it as soon as it happens! And it is going to happen! You think they’ll let the return of mega not be the craziest thing around?
@@TrulyAtrocious Its pretty cool if the opponent uses Stealth Rocks or Spikes. Another funny scenario would be to Protect on a Dragon using Outrage and then Outrage yourself haha
I love natdex! Except for all the extra toxic users, but I guess you can’t have all the good extra offensive tools without letting other mons keep their defensive tools.
@@pinkacross2042 I mostly love playing HO (I'm not good enough at the game to play balance) so naturally what helps stall is what makes it harder for me (I did bring stall to the tournament l'm not a complete stall hater) but yeah. I do agree toxic being allowed is most definitely for the best, just glad I can’t be poisoned by alo in ou (which I think is cool! A meta without the extra toxic users is pretty fun, and having old gen stuff is what natdex is for anyways)
@@powerbolt2846just because it isn't really seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Besides it's not like it's a disadvantage or hard task to simply use frustration over return so might as well
Not usually. Often, we just wonder "huh, I wonder why they didn't click that move that would have been really good here" or "oh thank GOD they're not setup" etc. In some rare occasions, the weird set works well and yea it can be annoying
Very glad to see you in Nat Dex. Its my personal favorite metagame, and it unfortunately doesnt have a lot of high level play surrounding it on youtube.
Hopefully I can help push the meta forward once I understand the tier better!
Ferro Slowbro, so good to see those mons again. Always great to hear your end game win paths vocalized, you have a great vision of this game.
Both of them togheter feels defensively right, but cursed by r/stunfisk forever
That's so nice of you to say! I'm glad you find my endgames insightful.
As the Champion of NDNU and NDPU (yes those tiers exist, we just play through discord because there is no ladder) I welcome you to the broader ND community and I Hope you have fun. NDUU and all the tiers below have tera banned by the way, so NDOU would just be following it's own lower tiers.
Interesting, good to know!
Thanks!
Thanks so much for the donation! Natdex content will continue! :D
Happy to see some NatDex. I've been playing it recently & it's so nice coming from OU.
Keep it up, it'll be nice to see you push up the ladder
NatDex laddering is a lot of fun, for sure!
Everybody starts playing NatDex as a joke then gets addicted after they realize how good no gambit and gholdengo feels 👀
It feels SO GOOD
rip gholdengo
They added all those spam Ubers to it :/ and they took Tera 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Megas and Z-Crystal users are also great Knock Off switch ins.
Very true!
this gonna be a good one.. nat dex is a refreshing change
ur cooked
Interesting team; you mentioned just wanting to load something standard but nearly all of your mons have non-standard sets in NDOU lol. Adamant Lopunny, Protect Ferro, max speed Lando, Taunt Koko, Iron Treads in general and SpDef Slowbro are all non-standard.
I suppose you're right! Didn't think of that.
Check out natdex uu. Tera is banned which makes it a lot less chaotic. Pokemon without tera is just so much better, it's too important and unpredictable to get right
I don't think that tier is relevant enough, but thanks for the idea!
I always end up thinking Nat Dex was smh a Joke Meta, but is also a lot more balanced than OU, glad to see you playing it
Oh hi adpg glad to see you
Yo adpg, it's Big Chungus irl, how've you been since the tour?
@@tkc5980 been great, now I'm other various tours with a team of my nation, hbu?
@@theruffletkid8025Glad to see you too
@@tkc5980 holy shit chungus you too
I think it would be very informative if you could you do some similar things in ndou you did in ou. like rating peoples teams and doing team building streams and the sort.
Once I get a better grasp on the meta, I will!
I main natdex but man is tera a lot less fun to deal with in natdex. Would love to see more natdex content from you and also hoping the potential tera suspect ends in a ban.
Yea, tera ban would be AWESOME! More NatDex content is coming for sure!
Pinkacross: "You need a wisp user, encore user and 2 Dark resists"
Me with toxic being my only status move, no encore users and Darkrai being my only dark resist: "Sweats nerviously"
how are you above 1400 elo
@@Demonic_Pulsar I'm currently ranked 101 on the SV OU ladder. I'm just that good (also Toxapex is so bulky its basically a Dark resist.)
He said "you don't need" not that you need, you're good lol
@@alysondavy2485 He said you don't need it in NatDex.
@@Victoria3WorldConquerer Yeah that's what I said, that you *don't* need to run wisp, encore and double dark resist.
Loved the video! It's exciting and enjoyable to watch other formats after playing so much sv ou
Hey there, I know I am very late, but glad to see u in natdex. I had always wanted to see you try natdex.
Woo-Hoo, Pink!
Can’t wait to see you conquer this metagame just like your conquering your exams!!
Long May this continue!
Thanks for the support! :D
Interesting because the current Natdex discussion thread is chock full of people complaining that the meta is even more tilted in favor of offense volatility compared to regular OU
Maybe it's less that NatDex doesn't have a proliferation of offensive threats, but NatDex's offensive threats don't feel AS bad to deal with as OU's offensive threats in contrast. Or, failing that, maybe the wealth of options makes it more teambuilder friendly than OU is?
@@waaaaaaah The wealth of options also makes offensive threats harder to deal with, and there's naturally more offensive options than defensive to deal with. There's a reason why the community survey for natdex is consistently lower score for balance/competitiveness perception.
@@RocketPropelledMexican considering that, I think then it might just be down to NatDex being a breath of fresh air compared to OU, which Pinka must've been playing almost exclusively for a year or two. A new meta to explore and turn on its head would be more fun that stale old OU.
great vid, would love to see more nat dex content from you.
It shall come!
Thats gonna be refreshing to watch and quite interesting too. Hope you do enjoy your new adventure in natdex 😊 already enjoyed the first video myself.
I hope so too! I'm glad you liked the video. :]
I used to play natdex and switched to ou because of your videos hahaha
Don't worry, OU content will continue!
I remember seeing you in the top 100 on NatDex and was genuinely surprised.
Ended up getting to rank 2 practically just by spamming Kyurem... what a pokemon.
Love your videos dude. Quick question. Why the preference over Slowbro over slowking or glowking?
@@IsTheLastChoice Needed a fire resist, as for Slowbro over Slowking, the choice is arbitrary since theyre 100% same pokemon given my EVs.
@@pinkacross2042Stats wise it may be arbitrary but if an opponent looks at a Slowbro on the team he'll probably think it's defensive and you can get an advantage that way.
I always loved Nat Dex...I just kinda build 10000 teams with Mega Sceptile and try to make it work...
Would be very interesting to see you review one of these teams in a video
Glad to see you try Nat Dex :)
Mega Sceptile seems... uh...
i subscribed! nice content
Thank you! :D
Can we normalize playing nat dex
sick vid, would love to see more natdex. if you dont enjoy sv ou that much i would consider switching the natdex for a bit
I certainly will continue playing natdex!
Congrats on escaping Gen 9 OU! natdex
Haha I'll still be playing SV OU, natdex will help with the burnout though!
@@pinkacross2042 that's what they all say! ;)
9:50 Sub crown definitely isn’t a set. Just ladder being ladder.
Ah I see
@@pinkacross2042 I might stand corrected, was playing ladder today and ran into one of the better/respected builders on there and he was running sub/cm/psynoise/tachyon crown.
Might be a new thing he's just trying, idk
Hey really cool to see you try out natdex, metagame is way better than svou rn (not like its a a high bar to cross). They're actually supecting tera for the THIRD TIME so I would really like to see your input on what your thoughts are on that. If you wanna see what natdex could be if it gets banned you should def try out NDUU. Tier is incredibly fun, and even if ladder is a wasteland, the cord and community are really nice and you can def get some good games in there.
I'm hoping Tera gets banned! I appreciate the input! :D
@@pinkacross2042 Have you gotten reqs for it? Every vote would count
Could you add spikes Rocky helmet garchomp to the teambuilding list?
yes!
7:25 you know, if most youtubers said 'you need to have a wisp user and an encore user and two dark resists on your team' I'd think they were just whining. But if pinkacross says teambuilding is stupidly overconstrained, I'm pretty sure teambuilding is stupidly overconstrained.
Gambit isn't THAT bad I guess, there are a lot of ways to counter it, but it is very nice to play the game not worrying about such a powerful reverse-sweeper in the back. There's a gambit Tera for every endgame.
Hope you make some teambuilding guides and stuff
I certainly will!
do you plan on rating viewers teams on natdex?
Not yet, but probably once I get a better grasp on the metagame!
mons hasn't been the same since they deleted everything cool
Yea...
Just wait for the new anime to drop Tera Flying Mega Rayquaza! Showdown better implement it as soon as it happens! And it is going to happen! You think they’ll let the return of mega not be the craziest thing around?
@1020percent Showdown can't have two buttons. In LGPE, Mewtwo and Charizard are implemented incorrectly as a result.
You should try Copycat Mega Lopunny because its funny? I dont know!
Lead lando sash explosion mega lopunny explosion !!
@@TrulyAtrocious Its pretty cool if the opponent uses Stealth Rocks or Spikes. Another funny scenario would be to Protect on a Dragon using Outrage and then Outrage yourself haha
Landorus-Therian should have used choice band tera normal explosion (for that one reason)
yea that sounds great lol
I love natdex! Except for all the extra toxic users, but I guess you can’t have all the good extra offensive tools without letting other mons keep their defensive tools.
Toxic was super healthy for the meta in previous gens imo
@@pinkacross2042 I mostly love playing HO (I'm not good enough at the game to play balance) so naturally what helps stall is what makes it harder for me (I did bring stall to the tournament l'm not a complete stall hater) but yeah. I do agree toxic being allowed is most definitely for the best, just glad I can’t be poisoned by alo in ou (which I think is cool! A meta without the extra toxic users is pretty fun, and having old gen stuff is what natdex is for anyways)
Great video Pink! The Nat Dex choice is dope.
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
btw u mention fake out -> QA on the ribombee... even if you could, it has shield dust, ur ass might get stun spored and it might get webs up anyway
Good point, totally forgot about that!
tera is already banned in natdex uu and ru, and because of it, those tiers are a massive breath of fresh air to play
Hey, don't forget about NDNU, NDPU and NDZU, we exist.
@@tkc5980NDZU MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥 WHAT THE FUCK IS A HAZARD CONTROL
Sounds nice!
W Pinka
A cool thing about NatDex is that boots seem to be less prominent. I wonder what causes it?
I wonder why…
On a side note, I love that natdex doesn’t have a stupid string cheese guy.
More defog and No Gholdengo means that you can actually remove hazards reliably.
Yea Defog distribution is significantly more
Smeargle (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spore
- Sticky Web
- Ceaseless Edge
- Stone Axe
Meowstic @ Light Clay
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Thunder Wave
- Psychic Noise
Heracross-Mega (M) @ Heracronite
Ability: Moxie
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pin Missile
- Arm Thrust
- Rock Blast
- Swords Dance
Raichu-Alola (M) @ Normalium Z
Ability: Surge Surfer
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Stored Power
- Draining Kiss
- Celebrate
Sawsbuck-Winter (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Serene Grace
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Headbutt
- Horn Leech
- Zen Headbutt
- Play Rough
Flygon (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
- Boomburst
- U-turn
Thanks
Arm thrust is bad
Ts so ass 😭
this team is not it
This is... interesting. Creative for sure, might want to play the tier a bit more and try out some sample teams.
welcome to contact moves hell
True, lots of helms and barbs and flame bodies
I liked it.
:D
yoooo!
Late to ze party but have you tried Glastrier?
Yes, it was awful.
Any reason why mlop is running frustration over return? It doesn't matter at all but still figured I'd ask
Ditto Matchup, most people just leave ditto at 255 Happiness, so frustration will become 1 BP
oooooh i would've never thought of that, ditto isn't really ever seen in natdex tho
@@powerbolt2846just because it isn't really seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Besides it's not like it's a disadvantage or hard task to simply use frustration over return so might as well
True thanks for the explanation
@@patrickstar8132it makess me feel like a bad person 😭
hello
i love your channel
Thanks! :D
Lopunny ❤
This is either wholesome or cursed depending on how broken you are from internet humor
Top 1 mmr by December probably
Yea Natdex ladder doesnt seem too hard tbh
Weird sets really get to good players don't they
Not usually. Often, we just wonder "huh, I wonder why they didn't click that move that would have been really good here" or "oh thank GOD they're not setup" etc. In some rare occasions, the weird set works well and yea it can be annoying
Wow Zard would have won the last game if ur opponent had switched tusk in first and clicked headlong
Potentially, as long as I noticed the speed boost I would've been fine though lol
do you think natdex is more balanced than sv ou?
yes lol
Yes 100% it is
Gamefreak we are removing the National Dex
Also Gamefreak wait why is our fans running to Palworld?
Fans Idk thats a good one Gamefreak why are they?
Am I just stupid or was he trying to use normal moves that would do nothing to a Tera ghost iron moth in the first game 😅
Mega lop has scrappy to hit ghost types
You're not stupid; you just don't know how Scrappy works.
Yea Lopunny can hit Ghosts with Normal and Fighting moves.
@@pinkacross2042 Ahhhh I can't believe I forgot that...that is embarrassing. Thanks for the reminder.
Sub crown isn’t a set lmao
Noted lol
nooooooo go back to OU!!!
Dont worry, Ill keep playing OU!
pleaaaase convert to natdex. superior gamemode love this way more
I agree the meta game is more interesting, but the less competitive ladder is concerning.
im praying tera gets banned so people actually play this format im going to get reqs even tho im 1300 elo i need tera GONE