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  • Published on Mar 15, 2026
  • After getting only a 99.8% chance of success in FireRed, I'm back in Platinum, with several billions of simulations to reclaim those pesky fractions of a percent.
    ⚠️WARNING: There are several points in the video where sped-up footage creates a strobe effect that may affect viewers sensitive to flashing lights. This occurs most prominently at 11:21 and 49:00.
    Please consider supporting the musicians whose music is featured in this video!
    Karl Casey ‪@WhiteBatAudio‬
    Idogedochiptune ‪@idogedochiptune‬
    Lev Kitkin imslp.org/wiki...
    The music used in the video is listed below in the order of its appearance:
    Twinleaf Town Theme (Platinum OST)
    Omniscience (this is an original made by me for this video)
    / omniscience
    Remedy (White Bat Audio)
    • Cinematic Retro Synth ...
    Tree vibrations (idogedochiptune)
    / tree-vibrations-box
    Night Crawler (White Bat Audio)
    • Music for Exploring a ...
    Faithful Premonition (idogedochiptune)
    / faithful-premonition-box
    Beethoven Symphony 7 Allegretto (JOHN MICHEL, CELLO)
    Ludwig van Beethoven, CC BY-SA 3.0 creativecommon..., via Wikimedia Commons
    commons.wikime...
    Pokemon League Night Theme (Platinum OST)
    Okazaki Fragments (idogedochiptune)
    / okazaki-fragments-box
    Intermezzi No. 2 , Andante non troppo e con molto espressione (Lev Kitkin, 2024)
    imslp.org/wiki...
    Pandora (White Bat Audio)
    • Synthwave / Retrowave ...
    Partita in G major, Hob.XVI:6, Adagio ( Lev Kitkin, 2024 )
    imslp.org/wiki...
    The League (original)
    / the-league
    cozy relief (idogedochiptune)
    / cozy-relief-box
    MarioRPG Sad Song (from MarioRPG OST, played briefly as a joke)
    • Sad Song - Super Mario...
    Last Stop (White Bat Audio)
    • Synthwave / Retrowave ...
    Simulacrum (Original)
    / simulacrum
    Studien in kanonischer Form, Op.56 (Lev Kitkin, 2024)
    imslp.org/wiki...
    Approaching Cynthia (Platinum OST)
    Waves (White Bat Audio)
    • 80’s Synth Theme - Wav...
    Credits (Platinum OST)
    ___
    You can find the simulator code and the full list of annotated inputs here:
    github.com/Kee...
    github.com/Kee...

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  • @martsnack
    @martsnack  Year ago +5744

    Thank you for watching my video! I'd like to address some common questions in the comments with a little FAQ:
    Q
    What is the dark truth?
    A
    To learn the truth, first you must open your third eye, then you must watch 8:20 again.
    Q
    What are quantum pokemon?
    A
    Suppose I walk into the grass at Lake Verity, and it produces a bidoof encounter in 50% of games, and a starly encounter in the other 50%. If I do the inputs to catch both, now my team has a pokemon on it that exists in both the bidoof and starly state.
    I can disentangle this "quantum" pokemon by using a piece of memory mail to remember which one I caught. To get a piece of memory mail to remember this, I could teach my quantum starly/bidoof fly. Versions of the game that have a Starly will desync and move into another menu where I can choose a move to forget. Versions with a bidoof will not allow me to teach bidoof fly and kick me back out to the bag menu. The games being desynced allows for a piece of memory mail to be tossed away in the bidoof games.
    Then my memory mail would be tied to the presence of starly and bidoof, and can desync the games whenever I need to make a move specific to bidoof/starly. In cases where it doesn't matter, I can treat the pokemon in that position as being both a starly and a bidoof at the same time.
    You could do this multiple times with enough mail, and if you're feeling spicy, use other items in other bag pouches to make more memory to remember more quantum pokemon.
    The use of this technique is that there are several battles in the game that I may have been able to achieve a lower level victory at, had I made use of some of these quantum pokemon. But to make use of quantum pokemon you need a successful strategy for every possible pokemon it could be. Some quantum pokemon exist in 3 or 4 states, and when you start mixing them together, you end up with a lot of possible teams, that all need a viable solution for the battle, and it gets REALLY complicated to route it all. I spared my sanity and didn't use them in this run.
    Q
    What about pokerus?
    A
    Pokerus is accounted for every step of the way. It has an outsized effect later in the game. For example, when training Hippowdon to get 200 defense EVs to manipulate Volkner's AI, I have to account for Pokerus when determining if I have enough room in Hippowdons EVs to fit an additional 200 defense EVs.
    You can see these calculations in a box at 44:31. I also make use of the 6 EV berries, which reduce EVs down to 100 if they're above 100, and by 10 if they're not. This lets me redistribute my pokemon's EVs, and since it resets to 100, helps manage pokerus seeds.
    Q
    Why is named
    A
    Infernape is named uncledad because being a starter is dad energy, but only showing up once every 5 battles for close combat is uncle energy.
    Vaporeon is named "Blocks" because its primary use is as a baton passer, and the first leg of a relay race uses starting blocks, similar to how vaporeon starts most battles and baton passes to someone else.
    Togekiss is named Thomas because it looks like a thomas
    Haunter1 is named Groceries because groceries haunt me
    Haunter2 is named taxes because when you give it to the daycare lady she will say "Okay, I will raise your taxes for you"
    Roselia is named quiznos because I was hungry and it looks like lettuce
    Hippowdon is named Murray because I'm referencing Sly Cooper
    Azelf is named beanbag because it looks like a beanbag
    Machoke is named "The Prince" because it learns 3 HMs and never complains about it
    Riolu is named Scopa because its an italian card game
    Q
    Can the seeds be "collapsed" by grouping them onto a specific part of the sequence?
    A
    Yes, this is sort of related to "Seed Cycling", one of the minor things listed at the end of the video. This idea is pretty neat, and a thought I had in the back of my mind for the entirety of the project.
    Essentially, if there's some event that only occurs once on the sequence (like 80 heads coin flips) that can also act as a stopping rule, games could be advanced along the sequence until they hit that point, then be stalled while everyone else catches up. This would "collapse" the seeds into a singularity, and they'd be in lockstep from there on.
    This would take literally millenia to accomplish, though, so its non-viable, though in some of my initial team drafts I was convinced I'd need Mesprit, the wandering legendary spirit, and the only way I'd be able to pin it down was by collapsing seeds to forcibly control its movement around the map.
    Q
    How many shinies did you get?
    A
    I have no clue! This is not a stat or mechanic I paid much attention to, with the exception that I altered the game's memory to produce a fully shiny team so that I could test the sequence to ensure shiny sparkles didn't mess with timing.
    Whether any seeds got a full shiny team, I can't say for certain. My assumption would be no, there are none, as the chance to get 6 individual pokemon shiny is ridiculously low unless you are manipulating the rng somehow. Since I only encounter 1 pokemon per location that I can catch, the seed would have to first-try every shiny.

    • @PopeYoda
      @PopeYoda Year ago +381

      Now post a video playing all 4 billion games outside of the simulator

    • @ScouseJazmin
      @ScouseJazmin Year ago +248

      I believe the most frequently asked question is "Why in gods name do you do this?"

    • @zachariahkindle8926
      @zachariahkindle8926 Year ago +86

      So...... is it gonna be 2 more years before the next video?

    • @notster7114
      @notster7114 Year ago +24

      doesnt this already break in the first rival fight even by losing? since you lose in some games faster than others youll be out of battle in some games at different times than others so all the subsequent inputs are desynced by that point

    • @martsnack
      @martsnack  Year ago +461

      @notster7114 losing the battle only involves using leer over and over again, which is just A inputs. After the battle is guarenteed to be over, a bunch of B inputs will realign the games by passing through the dialogue with the rival. Any games that have been finished with the battle and dialogue will just stand there since B won't do anything.
      Then all the games start moving at the same time once everybody's finished with the battle and passed through the dialogue.

  • @tyruskarmesin5418
    @tyruskarmesin5418 Year ago +36163

    "I have examined 4 billion possible timelines."
    "In how many did you win?"
    "All of them."

    • @MajorHN
      @MajorHN Year ago +826

      If only MartSnack were there for infinity war.

    • @praisethesun6783
      @praisethesun6783 Year ago +173

      But hey, at least we got Endgame this way.

    • @foggy8298
      @foggy8298 Year ago +229

      @praisethesun6783you say that like it’s a good thing

    • @praisethesun6783
      @praisethesun6783 Year ago +173

      @foggy8298 lorewise: absolutely tragic
      Cinema experience: simply terrific

    • @foggy8298
      @foggy8298 Year ago +51

      @praisethesun6783 literally the opposite though 😭

  • @chromaticchrome3746
    @chromaticchrome3746 Year ago +17045

    Fear not the man that beat each Pokémon game once.
    Fear the man that beat one Pokémon game 4 billion times. - Sun Kern

  • @serketenglish5963
    @serketenglish5963 8 months ago +3039

    This man lost to Barry 4 billion times.

    • @AllenQuid
      @AllenQuid 7 months ago +395

      There's something poetic about the person guaranteed to win no matter what in the end being eternally doomed to lose his first battle.

    • @BSLN
      @BSLN 7 months ago +312

      In order to understand what it means to win, one must first experience what it means to lose

    • @Shukasmask
      @Shukasmask 7 months ago +31

      @BSLN 🔥

    • @originalname5303
      @originalname5303 4 months ago +7

      Twas a calculated loss

    • @flynnhunter416
      @flynnhunter416 3 months ago +5

      Bro lost the battle but won the war.

  • @jkokol13
    @jkokol13 Year ago +2527

    The fact you used mail as a If-Else statement IN A DS POKEMON GAME is absolutely wild to me, along with everything else.

    • @rasmusliedberg
      @rasmusliedberg 9 months ago +215

      That was super impressing, such a smart and creative way to solve the problem.
      This guy must have an engineering background. This whole project just screams it.
      -An engineering student in awe

    • @TerryHe
      @TerryHe 6 months ago +18

      absolutely fcking incredible (insane) *slow clap*

    • @yonigee7939
      @yonigee7939 4 months ago +1

      I'm the best viewer in these comments

    • @thecrazyyodeler85
      @thecrazyyodeler85 4 months ago +11

      ​@rasmusliedbergthis guy for sure has to have a background in hard math for something like this

    • @brandonwalker5011
      @brandonwalker5011 4 months ago +12

      Lmao no this seems like applied math or engineering background.

  • @Razmatschannel
    @Razmatschannel Year ago +15867

    "My victory was guaranteed the moment I started the game" goes hard

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Year ago +430

      Lol I agree. It also sounds like something a villain in Yugioh would say (while looking downward, doing some weird hand pose or something)

    • @mattcroft
      @mattcroft Year ago +247

      "You're out. You were always out. You've been out since the day you were born."

    • @squiddler7731
      @squiddler7731 Year ago +168

      48:29
      Important timestamp

    • @degenaura5648
      @degenaura5648 Year ago +24

      ​@idontwantahandlethough Sounds like something Z'arc would say

    • @Tomix4k
      @Tomix4k Year ago +197

      "This is the only battle I will ever lose" right at the start of the run is amazing as well.

  • @brown56765
    @brown56765 Year ago +11189

    "I'm 4 billion parallel universes ahead of you!"
    *Runs into various walls for a couple hours*

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm Year ago +961

      just imagine it. Some rando comes walking into your place of business, starts running into your walls all over the place. Then fights you in such a way that you feel completely powerless with your 0% chance of winning. And then that person proceeds to walk into your walls again before finally leaving.

    • @Xbob42
      @Xbob42 Year ago +93

      @masterlinktm It's like when there's a crazy dude on a bus!

    • @jamesmayberry78
      @jamesmayberry78 Year ago +175

      he's building up speed

    • @adissentingopinion848
      @adissentingopinion848 Year ago

      ​@masterlinktmIs a magical spell/ritual just an RNG manipulation using pseudoquantum effects? Invoke the power of Fortuna by doing a whackass dance before buying a winning 1 million scratcher. If you wiggle your eyebrows just right you can win a slot machine guaranteed. There is a particular string of words that will convince any cashier to give you something for free.

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop Year ago +106

      ⁠@masterlinktm Later, you see on the news that they became heavyweight champion.

  • @crpalstuck
    @crpalstuck Year ago +3551

    I love how casually the shiny eevee with pokerus is shown at 33:54. It makes sense that its just one of the possible 4 billion scenarios but its hilarious to me.

    • @HelloAmChris32
      @HelloAmChris32 Year ago +315

      lol I never thought about that, between all the runs he probably saw millions of shinies

    • @Operational117
      @Operational117 Year ago +1

      @HelloAmChris32Absolutely.
      The odds of finding a shiny is 1 in 8192. Across all 4294967296 runs, every forced wild encounter will have 524288 shiny Pokémon… approximately.
      The issue is that while it is easy to just take the number of runs and divide it with the shiny probability divisor of 8192, we have to take into account that the number of steps required to force a wild encounter across all runs varies significantly, which in turn shifts the RNG sequence by different amounts.
      This means that there will be some seemingly guaranteed shiny encounters that end up not being shiny encounters because the step requirements shifted the RNG sequence (likewise, however, there will be encounters that seemingly should’ve been normal that end up being shiny due to the step requirements again shifting the sequence; how much these cancel each other out may not be 1 to 1, though).
      The TL;DR, however, is that across all wild encounters, there are absolutely millions of shinies, as there are dozens of wild encounters per run. This does, however, beg the question: what seed had the most amount of shinies encountered?

    • @sdtfyuty9424
      @sdtfyuty9424 11 months ago +91

      I noticed this instantly and started looking through comments for someone else

    • @vibe6223
      @vibe6223 11 months ago +76

      @HelloAmChris32 makes me wonder about which run saw the most shinies

    • @youness212
      @youness212 10 months ago +45

      And the shiny infernape at 32:06

  • @teoskrn1518
    @teoskrn1518 11 months ago +411

    Imagine being the champion and a kid squares up to you like "I have calculated all possible futures across all realities, and there is not a single one where you win!"

    • @BrothernutSquash
      @BrothernutSquash 8 months ago +66

      To be fair, this does sound like the kind of thing a random trainer in a field would run up to you and say before starting a battle.

    • @Aaaa-vp6ug
      @Aaaa-vp6ug 7 months ago +16

      @BrothernutSquash then they pull out Arceus. They are, in fact, the chosen one.

    • @justanothercomment
      @justanothercomment Month ago +3

      Imagine being a gym leader and watching a random kid barge in your room, wordlessly run into walls for hours, then proceed to absolutely decimate your team.

  • @leonardo.moreira17
    @leonardo.moreira17 Year ago +1392

    48:32 " I'm not worried, my victory was guaranteed the moment I started the game."
    ABSOLUTE CINEMA

  • @No-ln8wb
    @No-ln8wb Year ago +14192

    >Does insane feat through sheer mathematical probability and study
    >Spends two years doing an even more insane thing

    • @somethingorother7440
      @somethingorother7440 Year ago +1313

      What's crazy is that there is no probability. That's the point. He checked every possible seed in every possible situation and knows with 100% certainty that this sequence of inputs always wins no matter what.

    • @lux_1742
      @lux_1742 Year ago +511

      ​@somethingorother7440 In this video yes, but I believe the first point is refering to the 1st blind and deaf video not this one. The 1st video had a few moments that could theoretically fail even following his outline. The likelyhood of that however was extremely small, mainly just those darn fast pidgeys.
      That's all, sorry for rambling.

    • @unclesamjokes
      @unclesamjokes Year ago +49

      ​@lux_1742I wonder if you could use the same RNG logic here to overcome the shortcomings in the first video

    • @blurry9022
      @blurry9022 Year ago +126

      @unclesamjokesone of the key differences is that gen 3 changes its seed very frequently, so you aren’t locked into predetermined paths like in gen 4. You can see this in an emulator with save states, in gen 3 you can create a save state before you throw a pokeball and you’ll eventually hit with one of them, but in gen 4 youll always get the same outcome.

    • @silvesta5027
      @silvesta5027 Year ago +40

      how did he do this? How did he have the time to do this? Does he work full-time and just decided to beat 4 billion games of Pokemon platinum for fun? I have so many questions about how this insane feat came to be

  • @Petile
    @Petile Year ago +878

    "Despite the fact that Eevee deserves better than this" is actually too cute. He is loved in all realities

    • @DaggerSkullery
      @DaggerSkullery Year ago +74

      Eevee being force feed bitter food to keep all the realities in sync is so sad 😢
      Is it really worth it to win in every universe at once if this is what must be done to accomplish that?

    • @trecat5467
      @trecat5467 10 months ago +5

      If only there was a way to get an ever stone before Mindy trades the haunter in snowpoint city

    • @T-Man2105
      @T-Man2105 9 months ago +3

      @trecat5467 I mean in theory there is with the underground right? But getting an everstone in 4billion different realities is literally impossible with the amount of rng needed. I guess some things are 'set' in the sequence/coding, just like other things. But the effort is definately not worth it

    • @a.randomguy950
      @a.randomguy950 8 months ago +18

      ​@DaggerSkulleryEevee suffers a bit, yes, but it's reward is not only ascending into a Vaporeon, but into THE Vaporeon; a water doggo upon which every reality centers on, and it, alongside Infernape, Hippowdon, and Togekiss, are ascended to become the 4 Horsemen of Inevitable Victory.
      I think having to eat some food you dislike for a few days is a fair trade for becoming a multidimensional powerhouse who is very beloved by the God of Dimensions himself and is one of the few beings he chooses to keep alive to ascend with him

    • @Plasmafox
      @Plasmafox 4 months ago +1

      And then he pulls out the water stone

  • @Cowdragon01
    @Cowdragon01 8 months ago +2094

    This is by far the single best way to describe eldritch horrors in fiction. The actions of its followers feel nonsensical and it’s motives are unclear because you can’t see every timeline the way it can

    • @GadolElohai
      @GadolElohai 4 months ago +48

      You're brilliant. Whoa

    • @uselesscommon7761
      @uselesscommon7761 4 months ago +70

      It is also a good way to think about superintelligences. In fiction and, perhaps, soon, in real life.

    • @Cowdragon01
      @Cowdragon01 4 months ago +11

      @uselesscommon7761 TRUE! Like a big sci-fi jupiter brain I could see possessing a similar thought process

    • @polarknight5376
      @polarknight5376 4 months ago +60

      ​@uselesscommon7761 If by "soon" you mean on the time scale of how long humans have existed, sure, but if you mean on the time scale of how long a human exists, not so much.
      But ai- shut up. Glorified auto complete isn't going to be Johnny 5, Claptrap, or Wheatley, much less AM, Deep Thought, or Skynet.

    • @uselesscommon7761
      @uselesscommon7761 4 months ago +11

      @polarknight5376 noticing auto complete works in the same way chatgpt does not grant you amazing powers of prediction when it comes to further trajectory of technology, or nullify the genuinely scary developments like the glorified autocomplete being able to draw through code without innate concepts of coding OR spatial reasoning. you could be right tho idk

  • @xmgaming2444
    @xmgaming2444 Year ago +894

    Memory mail might be the single most creative strategy Ive ever seen in pokemon

    • @PowerOfTheAsian
      @PowerOfTheAsian Year ago +39

      From a practical point of view, its useless. But from a computation point of view with the herculean feat of creating memorization through states derived ONLY through input desynchronization, it's smart.

  • @TrulyAtrocious
    @TrulyAtrocious Year ago +5166

    "I went forward in time, to view alternate universes to see all possible outcomes of the coming encounter"
    "How many did you see?"
    "4,294,967,295"
    "How many took 66630 steps to find a Hippopotas?"
    "One."

    • @TrulyAtrocious
      @TrulyAtrocious Year ago +119

      @gairisiuil it was a 50-50 on whether or not the last bit counted in the end, I got it wrong

    • @megamatthew75
      @megamatthew75 Year ago +20

      @TrulyAtrocious Naw bro give yourself some credit 😭

    • @slimeheadgamer3569
      @slimeheadgamer3569 Year ago +79

      "How many did you see?"
      "4,294,967,295"
      "And how many did we win?"
      "All of them."

    • @xnaaloh4437
      @xnaaloh4437 Year ago +16

      ​@TrulyAtrociousidk about you but from the way martsnack described the random number generator made me pretty sure that all 4,294,967,296 numbers were used, since in the example just b4, all 6 numbers were used

    • @JK-qi7pp
      @JK-qi7pp Year ago +2

      What I wonder is where he has the money for all the repels that he needs to ensure the encounters he needs. The Hippopotas encounter with its over 66000 steps costs over 231000 Poke Dollar to guarantee. Needless to say that at that point in the game he doesn't have that kinda cash.

  • @draexian530
    @draexian530 Year ago +3349

    This is so immense it eclipses my previously held conceptions about what kinds of games can be "solved."

    • @TheJeffKirkley
      @TheJeffKirkley Year ago +150

      If you know enough, you can predict everything. The hard part is knowing enough, and gathering information that has been destroyed.

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 Year ago +100

      Anything which is a pseudorandom pattern is predictable with sufficient, finite computation time.

    • @DrunkGeko
      @DrunkGeko Year ago +61

      @TheJeffKirkley it's not that simple actually. As far as we understand there are truly random phenomena so you cannot do that intrinsically but even assuming we're in a fully deterministic setting you still have scenarios where the prediction requires stupid amount of computation to predict
      And i struggle to find the right words for how absurd that can get. If you're thinking "all the universe's matter is turned into computers that works insanely fast" that's still not even remotely close to enough for some games you can make up. It gets even crazier when you ask to predict stuff like busy beaver which is incomputable at all since the numbers in its sequence grow faster than any possible computable sequence, meaning that even without randomness and infinite computational power you still cannot endlessly predict the next number in the busy beaver sequence
      Theoretical computer science is neat

    • @NitroghostYT
      @NitroghostYT Year ago +43

      I think you need to remember the very clear establishing of the scenario. The specific discussion ​about the seed gives a finite calculable "random" yes there may be true random, but fortunately for us gamers the universe and video games arent the same@DrunkGeko :)

    • @fLexTheLaw
      @fLexTheLaw Year ago +8

      Tetris killscreen is like a baby compared to this lol

  • @LastIgniteTick
    @LastIgniteTick 5 months ago +63

    "I fear not the man who has beaten 4,294,967,295 games once, but I fear the man who has beaten one game 4,294,967,295 times." - Cynthia, I guess

  • @kitrium
    @kitrium Year ago +19562

    "my goal is to make a sequence that will beat every possible game. but that's too easy, so i'm enforcing nuzlocke rules" WHAT

    • @eddiemate
      @eddiemate Year ago +2907

      The insane part (that another comment got me to realise) is that the nuzlocke rules barely matter. The encounters would remain the same, since they’re the only consistent options for the team, and while the deaths rule technically matters, it’s only to a minimal degree since deaths either need to happen in all games, or no games.

    • @kitrium
      @kitrium Year ago +457

      @eddiemate i came to realize that while watching the video as well!

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 Year ago +35

      6:30

    • @masterlinktm
      @masterlinktm Year ago +985

      @eddiemate However, the Nuzlocke rules matter A LOT.
      Those rules prevent an insane amount of strategies that he could have used if not for that rule set. Easiest example being, he could have just power-leveled his pokemon to guarantee OTKs on most if not all enemies.
      The ONLY reason you are able to say the Nuzlocke rules don't matter, is because he played around rules so well, that it looks like they didn't effect anything.

    • @calvindang7291
      @calvindang7291 Year ago +424

      @masterlinktm The lowest level rule prevents that, not the nuzlocke one. The nuzlocke rule does prevent a lot of cheesy strategies to force you to actually think about the battles, though.

  • @Mr_Pilat
    @Mr_Pilat Year ago +4048

    I saw the title and was like "oh someone one uped the FireRed blind and deaf guy" only to find out ITS THE SAME GUY! HE ONE UPED HIMSELF! Legend

  • @strongerthanever2039
    @strongerthanever2039 Year ago +5546

    Multiverse level maths.
    Just imagine how scary it must be to be a gym leader and see a kid walk in, start twitching and violently vibrating on a quantum level in the corner trying to align with all the alternative timelines and proceed to win by predicting both every move you make and it's outcome.

    • @cleverman383
      @cleverman383 Year ago +305

      the quantum child

    • @niranekomata3383
      @niranekomata3383 Year ago +384

      that's honestly a sick way of visually representing some OP multi-universe vision character

    • @strongerthanever2039
      @strongerthanever2039 Year ago +61

      @niranekomata3383 Thanks, that's what I was going for!

    • @KatBeanGod
      @KatBeanGod Year ago +67

      im a gym leader and i can definetely agree, that was really scary that one time

    • @Aleoncio-z
      @Aleoncio-z Year ago +185

      Not only he's predicting every move you make, he's also fighting every single version of you in the multiverse at the same time and with the same moves

  • @ColossusBall
    @ColossusBall 4 months ago +149

    >DROPS 2 VIDEOS
    >5MILLION VIEWS
    >DISAPPEARS

    • @JanoschHu
      @JanoschHu 4 months ago +19

      In this Video @ 48:10 he says "after nearly 2 years of afford"
      Sooo, maybe hes working? LET HIM COOK! DAMN!

    • @Cashbans
      @Cashbans 4 months ago +4

      @JanoschHu I wonder what it is?

  • @metagameface9697
    @metagameface9697 Year ago +3666

    Pannenkoek's Law: Any game is a puzzle game if you're dedicated enough

  • @morganconklin151
    @morganconklin151 Year ago +3683

    There is something so poetic about having to run from Garintina, a being of chaos, in order to defeat this game in all timelines

    • @t_tkuro
      @t_tkuro Year ago +61

      Absolutely true!

    • @tonalpleeb07
      @tonalpleeb07 Year ago +235

      Giratina is a creation of Arceus, Arcues is God, so techincally...
      Giratina is RNGesus.

    • @tonalpleeb07
      @tonalpleeb07 Year ago +216

      On a more narrative note, a being that goes through every possible *predetermined* outcome would be besties with a being punished for chaos.
      Giratina, to Arceus: *Do you see now? The power of order fails when put to the test. So will chaos, mind you. But never every time. Other times, I will be unpredictable. Other times, I will win.*

    • @t_tkuro
      @t_tkuro Year ago +36

      @tonalpleeb07 Who let this man cook?! 😌👌

    • @shantaeisbae
      @shantaeisbae Year ago +28

      Garintina ‼️🗣🗣

  • @n7x
    @n7x Year ago +2479

    “Despite the billions of possibilities, this is the only outcome”
    That line goes so hard. It’s incredible that this is even possible, you cover literally every possibility in the game.

    • @unknown-808
      @unknown-808 Year ago +20

      Fire in the hole

    • @Kapucino2
      @Kapucino2 Year ago +20

      I mean, "only" every possibility in this exact path. which is still impresive. It's 100% not the only and not the most efficient one, but it's still very impressive.

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 4 months ago +4

      ​@Kapucino2 hey man please provide a more efficient path to beat every single Pokémon platinum seed. I'm very curious

    • @GlenCoscoroba
      @GlenCoscoroba 4 months ago +5

      ​​@zoutewandI mean, OP is almost certainly right, despite being a bit rude about it. I don't even need to TAS it all out myself to realize it. If, out of every single time the TASer decided to spin in place, even one of them could've gone faster by spinning in the opposite direction in order to get a more favorable alignment position, then this is not the most efficient route to beat all Pokemon Silver seeds simultaneously.
      Thing is, this is still an incredible TAS, and any possible future more efficient TAS will almost likely be based on it.

    • @dmc6262
      @dmc6262 Month ago

      @zoutewand You and him both go touch grass. this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

  • @isabelbimberg1342
    @isabelbimberg1342 9 months ago +60

    very considerate that pokemon have so much respect for the lives lost on 9/11 that they become less likely to attack humans in general on that day

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 4 months ago +3

      It's apparently a commonly said myth that is not (entirely) true. It's only true for the japanese version of the games, not for any other version

  • @jellywillreturn
    @jellywillreturn Year ago +2414

    I love how multiple points in this run are contingent on maximizing Eevee’s suffering, it really elevates the narrative.

    • @purepandemonium8276
      @purepandemonium8276 Year ago +427

      Our prosperity depends entirely on the Eevee of Omelas

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Year ago +36

      ​@purepandemonium8276 bro......

    • @Lovelandmonkey
      @Lovelandmonkey Year ago +167

      Is it worth it, to have Pokemon Platinum completely solved, at the cost of forever traumatizing an eevee? 😢

    • @loran1212
      @loran1212 Year ago +193

      @Lovelandmonkey *4 billion Eevees

    • @creator-link
      @creator-link Year ago +110

      @purepandemonium8276 The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas Platinum

  • @Kavukamari
    @Kavukamari Year ago +6592

    "suffice it to say, I hate being paired up with npcs" in his omniscience he lost what made him human, he sees every possibility, but in a world where you know every outcome, companionship is just a liability.

    • @whoknowsanymoreiguess
      @whoknowsanymoreiguess Year ago +527

      This goes way too hard to be a comment on a pokemon video

    • @lucror314
      @lucror314 Year ago +48

      @whoknowsanymoreiguess exactly what I thought😂

    • @RecurveStickerDragon
      @RecurveStickerDragon Year ago +258

      also aligns with what he said about "unfortunately having to" end a plot to restart the world without emotion

    • @freescape08
      @freescape08 Year ago +35

      I only know the first dune book, but this feels like you describing the kwisatz haderach. Did you just make this up for the comment? It's perfect!

    • @ggggg77273
      @ggggg77273 Year ago +50

      basically everybody would seem like a moron if you were omniscient

  • @BigTheSmall
    @BigTheSmall Year ago +1317

    That mail trick is so insanely smart for how simple it is. I’m already impressed by the concept of this video alone, but the fact that you didn’t brute force it and actually found elegant solutions every time a significant desync occurred is the problem-solving cherry on this 4 billion game sundae.

    • @KayOScode
      @KayOScode Year ago +41

      Brute force would take an eternity. The simulator was necessary along with a deep understanding of the games mechanics

    • @keaton718
      @keaton718 Year ago

      @KayOScode Would it pass brute force of all the billions of possible games? Is there something the simulator was not taking into account that could be in one of the games in reality?

    • @shayboual1892
      @shayboual1892 Year ago +1

      ​@keaton718it is possible, but it'll take an incredibly long time. You'd have to simulate all possible inputs to every possible seed to find one sequence which works on all seeds, which is computationally infeasible

    • @mauer1
      @mauer1 Year ago +2

      ​@shayboual1892 i mean considering it took the youtuber ~2 years a computer brute forcing random inputs might actually be faster.
      especially considering it can run close to 24/7

    • @shayboual1892
      @shayboual1892 Year ago

      @mauer1 it's definitely not, thanks to exponential growth

  • @swordsmancs
    @swordsmancs 9 months ago +412

    48:28 “It’s been a long road and there’s only five battles left, but I’m not worried. My victory was guaranteed the moment I started the game.” Hardcore as fuck bro, this entire video is insane

  • @mattshnoop
    @mattshnoop Year ago +3265

    I dunno about anybody else, but I would ***absolutely*** watch a multi-hour overview of everything you left out of this video. You could spend six hours walking through that insane spreadsheet you teased and I would be satisfied! Bravo.

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. Year ago +123

      Yesss, release a Pannenkoek-style video! I want my video games in lecture form, please.

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople Year ago +5

      Lol

    • @DKdrop
      @DKdrop Year ago +67

      @mattshnoop I’d also watch that, but I imagine that it’d take a lot of work to put together. Seems like a solid candidate for Patreon content, if he chooses to go that route, which I’d respect. For the time put into this alone, Mart deserves it.

    • @dancinglight8411
      @dancinglight8411 Year ago

      Autism heros

    • @globaldude100
      @globaldude100 Year ago +1

      Do this. I'll watch it all

  • @owitty
    @owitty Year ago +14470

    "I'd have to practically be omniscient."
    Part 1: Becoming Omniscient
    This madman...

    • @SomebodyOnTheW3b
      @SomebodyOnTheW3b Year ago +335

      This dude gets uber-powerful faster than a shonen protagonist.

    • @gren_3352
      @gren_3352 Year ago +88

      ​@SomebodyOnTheW3b it usually takes years for shonen protagonist to become the strongest

    • @ErFuyl
      @ErFuyl Year ago +58

      @gren_3352 A pokémon protagonist usually takes just a few days to get uber

    • @megamatthew75
      @megamatthew75 Year ago +63

      ⁠​⁠@ErFuyl A heavy takes around a whole match to get Uber.

    • @gren_3352
      @gren_3352 Year ago +3

      @ErFuyl he said shonen not pokemon

  • @0x0ada
    @0x0ada Year ago +2368

    I can't believe Pokemon Platinum joined the list of solved games before chess did.

    • @wademarshall2364
      @wademarshall2364 Year ago +243

      This actually makes sense when you think about it though. Because of the RPG elements of pokemon the game is able to converge on a single game tree, whereas in chess you cant do this

    • @tomerilan4647
      @tomerilan4647 Year ago +183

      @wademarshall2364 I think it's more to do with it being single player, so the 'problem' being solved can't react in the same way another player can

    • @BrandonsUsername
      @BrandonsUsername Year ago +55

      @tomerilan4647 Thats not true. For Chess you have to have every move for every / other / move going back dozens of moves mapped. Every first move is easy, every second move is easy, but what about move 12? 4 billion seeds is a lot, but chess has more seeds than atoms in the universe. Its not a problem of reactions, its a problem of computing power.

    • @FatedHandJonathon
      @FatedHandJonathon Year ago +87

      ​@BrandonsUsernameChess has no seeds, because it has no randomness. That's the point they were making -- that randomness is far easier to deal with than a sapient opponent. It's specifically because the game is single-player that Pokémon can converge back onto a single timeline.
      If a human being was making every random decision in Pokémon, it would be unfathomably more complicated than chess. A game of chess involves maybe 80-100 decisions by players, or "branching points" where the game can split into multiple timelines. Pokémon, on the other hand, has literally MILLIONS of branching points throughout a single playthrough. However, because the game is single-player, rather than against a human, it can be collapsed down more efficiently into a computable set of timelines.

    • @mauer1
      @mauer1 Year ago +22

      @FatedHandJonathon its actually the complete opposite. its 4 billion seeds but there isnt so much difference between each seed isnt solveable. (basically every desync) and you can repeat moves to align with the other seeds so its just one timeline again. with the preplanning of the ai battles there is no randomness aswell. You remember how he said that wild pokemon are really tricky to account for because they move randomly. yeah.
      To fully solve chess you have to account for every move not just the move you trick them into playing. because there is no best move followed by best move but best move followed by ?maybe best move? its far more possibilities than just 4 billion.
      chess with 7 or less pieces is fully solved btw.
      i also think we have the same conclusion. its just the explanation. Pokemon beeing a single player means there are some rng based decision and non (because the tricky wild battles are avoided) rng based battles.

  • @UtubeWatchu
    @UtubeWatchu Year ago +583

    43:01 'Heading to Spear Pillar, Cyrus is there attempting to end the universe and remake it without any human emotions. Unfortunately, the game forces you to stop him.'
    I loved the video concept and all that you did, but that line slayed me. Like how dare he inconvenience your journey to beat the champion multiversally.

    • @gallalameblook9911
      @gallalameblook9911 11 months ago +119

      The joke is that OP agrees with Cyrus that human emotions should be removed from the word, as indicated by the deadpan voice throughout.

  • @TristanDreamer
    @TristanDreamer Year ago +727

    Murphy trembles. Everything that can go wrong, will go wrong. But even that won't stop you now.

    • @rendomstranger8698
      @rendomstranger8698 Year ago +128

      Murphy's crime. Everything that can go wrong has been accounted for.

    • @SpaceBoyDigital
      @SpaceBoyDigital Year ago +1

      H😮😮😮u

    • @jlco
      @jlco Year ago +7

      That line goes unreasonably hard.

    • @Gift_Of_Victory
      @Gift_Of_Victory Year ago +12

      @rendomstranger8698 Every rocket scientist's dream. (which was the occupation of the original Edward Aloysius Murphy Jr., BTW)

  • @Craykiller223
    @Craykiller223 Year ago +652

    multiversal permanent faint is actually such a wild concept that i never would've imagined ever being a real word combination, i am floored

  • @ChaoticMeatballTV
    @ChaoticMeatballTV Year ago +2351

    I don't remember the last time I had my jaw drop because of the complexity and problem-solving ingenuity done in a Pokemon video but holy moly, this is one of the ones I'll remember.

    • @Kiru_Kahl
      @Kiru_Kahl Year ago +19

      Ayyy it’s the other insane Pokémon player!

    • @kemkyrk8029
      @kemkyrk8029 Year ago +17

      Memory mails are bonkers

    • @kithkindeck
      @kithkindeck Year ago +17

      My exact reaction to memory mail. Fucking genius.

    • @Arkouchie
      @Arkouchie Year ago +5

      Is it beating pokemon black and white without taking damage? I hear the odds of that are pretty low.

    • @DarkMagician_55
      @DarkMagician_55 Year ago +3

      ​@Arkouchie It's actually impossible without modifying the game. In the first battle, the opponent ai is forced to tackle, and tackle can't miss.

  • @johnschwalb
    @johnschwalb 6 months ago +38

    So this just settles it. Pokémon is nether an rpg or strategy game, it’s a puzzle game with multiple answers.

  • @ExquisiteLIGHT
    @ExquisiteLIGHT Year ago +2100

    My favorite type of content creator is this. Disappears for years at a time only to return with an absolute banger.

    • @Rewby99
      @Rewby99 Year ago +37

      He’s like the Avatar fr

    • @randomname8750
      @randomname8750 Year ago

      checkout kaptainkristan I recommend the studio ghibli video. Super well produced the Frank Ocean one is good too

    • @Emperor_Atlantis
      @Emperor_Atlantis Year ago +32

      A really good reason to stay subbed. Never flods your subscription box. And only videos that are really worth it

    • @HDMICIDE
      @HDMICIDE Year ago

      like the salt fork guy, however you cant beat the original

    • @BioUmano
      @BioUmano Year ago +2

      I mean, you need a huge amount of hourse to produce such a video

  • @ttinchung111
    @ttinchung111 Year ago +819

    15:21 Frail Monfernos, Weak Monfernos. This is the selfish perception of people. True trainers should win with every Monferno in all 4 billion timelines.

  • @VerbalLearning
    @VerbalLearning Year ago +747

    "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe" - Carl Sagan
    "If you wish to beat every possible game of Pokemon Platinum, you must first become omniscient" - MartSnack

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman Year ago +1

      Jesus: "I made an apple pie from scratch! None of you can do it."

  • @connormcgrory2666
    @connormcgrory2666 10 months ago +129

    You should set up a twitch stream or something where you let this sequence play out on a random seed of Platinum. People would love to tune in and check its progress! I'm sure folks would throw you some bits/subs as well!

  • @hyperlinkblocked5659
    @hyperlinkblocked5659 Year ago +1771

    MartSnack: “My goal is to reach the credits in every possible game of Platinum”
    Me: Oh wow that sounds impossible
    MartSnack: “This is pretty easy, so as an added challenge, I’ll be doing it under Nuzlocke restrictions”
    Me: 😳

    • @cameronsmith2723
      @cameronsmith2723 Year ago +50

      Had this EXACT thought 😂

    • @athath2010
      @athath2010 Year ago +149

      tbh the aiming for a low level part is the much greater feat here, I think
      like, I think mart would generally try to avoid deaths anyway, since non-multiversal faints would lead to annoying desyncs
      NOT being at lv. 100 means you need to respect enemy fights a lot more, which in turn leads to far more complex/entertaining strats

    • @wavedashdownsmash
      @wavedashdownsmash Year ago +60

      Yes, otherwise this video becomes "I leveled my starter to 100 in the first area, it took 999 hours”

    • @Ultimaximus
      @Ultimaximus Year ago +19

      @wavedashdownsmash In the other video, he had the opportunity to level to 100 via the day care, but just chose not to. He could've arbitrarily chosen to restrict his level here too, but at least "lowest level possible for my team" is well-defined and takes care of the problem

    • @urmasslow
      @urmasslow Year ago +4

      Except he didnt follow nuzlocke rules. The eevee fainted on all four billion universes and he still has it and talks about evolving it.

  • @samuelvilz
    @samuelvilz Year ago +312

    43:03 "Cyrus is there attempting to end the universe and remake it without any human emotions. Unfortunately the game forces you to stop him."
    The dryness of your delivery is what got me

  • @kavayo404
    @kavayo404 Year ago +1571

    This is so much more insane than Fire Red. We went from essentially brute-forcing a game, with multiple (tiny) points of failure, to being omniscient, setting more restrictions, and still having a true 100% success rate.
    Some of the strategies used here are things I could not even dream about thinking up myself.
    It would be fun to get some stats on different seeds, like which encountered the most shinies, which seed "wasted" the most time etc.
    You're a madman, MartSnack. I can't wait to re-watch this dozens to hundreds of times, just like the Fire Red video.

    • @McJethroPovTee
      @McJethroPovTee Year ago +195

      The memory mail thing was amazing tbh. Imagine being the pokemart cashier, observing this 12 year old kid, touch a mail and watch it disassociate.

    • @Sigurn27
      @Sigurn27 Year ago +44

      I would LOVE to see the data for various seeds, that was some of the most interesting parts of the video for me.

    • @Spoodsy
      @Spoodsy Year ago +13

      time wasting stats sounds hilarious

    • @twistedtachyon5877
      @twistedtachyon5877 Year ago +67

      ​@Spoodsysurely there's gotta be at least one maximally blessed seed that highrolls every time and waits for the plebs to catch up.
      "It's tough being the best trainer in any reality."

    • @WindsorMason
      @WindsorMason Year ago +31

      The thing is, this strategy actually bypasses all RNG manipulation. Someone could wait in a seed advancing area, before continuing the sequence, long enough to move their current seed into the state that is best/worst for whatever outcome is up ahead. The sequence doesn't change :D

  • @antiquehealbot6543
    @antiquehealbot6543 Year ago +122

    I spend more than 5 hours a day watching youtube but the intro for this video is THE BEST intro I've ever seen.
    Chapter 1 : Becoming omniscient.

    • @jem5636
      @jem5636 8 months ago +1

      Same. You know you're in for a good video when that's where the story starts.

  • @bummerdrummer39
    @bummerdrummer39 Year ago +201

    “Unfortunately, the game forces you to stop him.” LMAO

    • @Gift_Of_Victory
      @Gift_Of_Victory Year ago +6

      Well, emotion is uneccesary to the man who need not account for uncertainty.

  • @FunnyFany
    @FunnyFany Year ago +485

    "That odd child keeps doing things that don't make sense. And yet... in their eyes, in their entire body, I see nothing but certainty. They don't hesitate. They don't flinch. I wonder: who are they?"

    • @anonymityanonymous7476
      @anonymityanonymous7476 Year ago +79

      Reminds me of one of my favorite books where nobody can figure out if the mentor is acting insane or is legitimately just insane. At the end it's revealed that he absorbed every prophecy ever made and used the information to plot a set of actions that would result in the simultaneous negation of every doomsday that was near or big enough to have been foretold by that time.
      Of particular hilarity is that he mentions this "perfect path" requiring him to smash a rock on a windowsill several years back and he never did figure out how that related to anything but it was definitely important. In response to this, one of the characters freaks out because the death of their pet rock was a very formative experience in their early childhood.

    • @nicklousu
      @nicklousu Year ago +8

      @anonymityanonymous7476do you mind sharing which book this is? Sounds interesting

    • @augustyn2.0
      @augustyn2.0 Year ago +6

      @anonymityanonymous7476 i, too, would like to know of this book.

    • @yellowpig1026
      @yellowpig1026 Year ago +5

      ​@anonymityanonymous7476 i need to know this too

    • @SabirTheHuman
      @SabirTheHuman Year ago +1

      @anonymityanonymous7476 I would also like to be informed of the title of this book.

  • @KazeN64
    @KazeN64 Year ago +1610

    I really appreciate the "lowest level possible" clause, it leads to so many interesting interactions. Maybe one day in the far future, someone manages to do it with an even lower level.

    • @carlosfranciscocardoso
      @carlosfranciscocardoso Year ago +38

      pretty sure it's not possible to do it with an even lower level. it's literally the "lowest level possible" the game can produce

    • @martsnack
      @martsnack  Year ago +673

      theoretically, you could do some battles at a lower level, I just didn't find them or I felt like my solution was "good enough". For example, the entire structure of the game changes if you pick a different eeveelution. It's extremely difficult to say whether I'd be able to beat certain battles at a lower level if I picked jolteon. And other battles might have suboptimal strategies. Right off the top of my head, the maylene battle might be possible at a lower level, and the candice battle as well. It's also somewhat dependent on how strongly you want to enforce an "item usage" clause, since individual battles could be won at a lower level if you were willing to dump obscene amounts of money into healing items, and just pp stall out the opponent. Of course, this is at the detriment to later battles, since you'd be out of money.

    • @FatedHandJonathon
      @FatedHandJonathon Year ago +47

      ​@martsnackJolteon also isn't the only alternative to Vaporeon. I mentioned this in another comment, but in case you don't see that, I'm pretty sure it's actually possible to choose between Espeon and Umbreon, using the Drifloon in Valley Windworks to confirm the time of day.

    • @dasaiyantv8483
      @dasaiyantv8483 Year ago +24

      @FatedHandJonathon He addressed this in the replies to the pinned Q&A thread.

    • @kokubo399
      @kokubo399 Year ago +16

      Two goats bleating at each other

  • @QQ-gk6qe
    @QQ-gk6qe Year ago +287

    This is, hands down, the most interesting thing I've ever seen on the internet. I watched it thinking, "this looks interesting, maybe I can fall asleep to it" because it was 2 am. It was so interesting that I forgot to fall asleep. I have never been so hooked, so impressed, so curious, or so blown away. You perfectly explain everything, to the point where I feel like I know what's happening in EVERY SINGLE GAME. All 4 BILLION. It feels like just as much time was put into the explanation as was put into the game. Beautiful video, and beautiful accomplishment.
    Also, casually dropping the term "quantum pokemon" right at the end is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

    • @DustyyBoi
      @DustyyBoi 8 months ago +4

      clicked this to fall asleep to, I pray I won't encounter the same fate

    • @PeDIRL
      @PeDIRL 4 months ago

      @DustyyBoi how did that go

    • @hhuhuhuh
      @hhuhuhuh 3 months ago

      @PeDIRL he's actually still asleep to this day

  • @oy4210
    @oy4210 Year ago +204

    You know the video is gonna be good when the first step to beating Pokémon is achieving enlightenment

  • @Jdietz43
    @Jdietz43 Year ago +283

    MartSnack: "Mate in 708,146 moves."
    Pokemon Platinum: "Oh POO! You win AGAIN!"

    • @blanton_bros
      @blanton_bros Year ago +24

      66630 of those, just for one Hippopotas encounter...

  • @lucadivine3862
    @lucadivine3862 Year ago +3982

    Imagine Aaron watching you run around in the corner forever and just like, "what are you doing?"
    And you respond: "beating you in an alternate timeline."

    • @VixVixious
      @VixVixious Year ago +464

      In EVERY alternate timeline

    • @laerbear6760
      @laerbear6760 Year ago +395

      "I just beat you 4 billion times. You don't get to ask me questions."

    • @Firebee033
      @Firebee033 Year ago +83

      Honestly this video is one of the closest things we'll ever get to the 5 hour Bismuth video with all the parallel universes.

    • @l_-Kazuma_-l
      @l_-Kazuma_-l Year ago +61

      "My goal is beyond your understanding"

    • @NoobsailerRBH
      @NoobsailerRBH Year ago +31

      The image of a child walking into a wall for several minutes with no reaction or response, and when asked "What are you doing?", the child's head slowly turns around with a horrifying cracking sound, pure white eyes and a demonic grin on their face, multiple overlapping growling voices responding to the question in unison.
      *"I'm bringing every version of you to their knees!"*
      Their head slowly turns back into place with the same cracking sound, and the child continues walking into walls for another three hours before standing up straight, stepping slowly into position, and pulling out a Master Ball with a twisted grin, the sounds of the souls of all previously defeated trainers escaping from between their teeth.
      *"Now... it's your turn!"*

  • @carcas77
    @carcas77 8 months ago +58

    Most normal pokemon fan:

  • @Razmatschannel
    @Razmatschannel Year ago +13354

    The blind and deaf community has been waiting for this video for 2 years

  • @HyperdriveHydra01
    @HyperdriveHydra01 Year ago +355

    This man drops the most mind-bogglingly insane video and then ends it with “well we didn’t even get into Quantum Pokémon” EXCUSE ME WHAT???

    • @dewydewback
      @dewydewback Year ago +45

      I would guess this would be similar to memory mail; desyncing based off of a specific factor, catching different pokemon on each of the two desynced timelines, and then using this to essentially have one pokemon that's kept in the same slot, but is two different types of pokemon with completely different moves depending on which of the desynced timelines it is in (and the specific factor that you wanted to desync the timelines for to begin with)

    • @tonalpleeb07
      @tonalpleeb07 2 months ago

      @dewydewback The valley windworks capture is the quantum mon in this run - Across all seeds, it is many different pokemon all at once, but for this run that matters nonewhat. Honestly, seeing a run where a poor nature or IV is countered by a specific capture that changes depending on the seed sounds equal parts insane and awesome, even for this madlad

  • @atavoidirc5409
    @atavoidirc5409 Year ago +258

    1:03:48 "Despite the billions of possibilities, there is only one outcome"

  • @piemonkey321
    @piemonkey321 11 months ago +15

    Every time I do something stupid and I don't know why I did it, I'm just going to assume my higher self is playing multiple simulations of me simultaneously like this.

  • @saadihsan8206
    @saadihsan8206 Year ago +812

    Holy actual shit that memory mail desync is beyond insane. The sheer thought power required to come up with the perfect combination of inputs that keeps every possible version of the game in the same order even accounting for desyncs from the different times of day is insane.
    I'd love to learn more about the notes and all the crazy scenarios you had to gloss over to keep the video short.

    • @nikoforsyth514
      @nikoforsyth514 Year ago +74

      The explanation for Memory Mail was so cool. Felt like I was seeing a grand reveal at the end of a mystery movie or puzzle game.

    • @grunkle-g.2934
      @grunkle-g.2934 Year ago +79

      You can tell he's got a compsci background just from that alone

    • @daanridder3631
      @daanridder3631 Year ago +7

      I'm still slightly confused by it, because wouldn't it be possible to drop the mail seconds before it becomes morning and then encountering the runner after dropping the mail? Or does the possibility of an encounter get locked when entering the route?

    • @serraramayfield
      @serraramayfield Year ago +18

      @daanridder3631Memory Mail is a form of controllable manipulation which allows the seed to loop back to the optimal values within its primary sequence.

    • @daanridder3631
      @daanridder3631 Year ago +3

      @serraramayfield yeah i got that part, i commented when is saw him use it the first time because i was confused about the trainer encounter but i didn't realise that this comment wasn't referring to that exact moment but to the use of the mail in general, thanks for the answer anyways

  • @robbiegarber898
    @robbiegarber898 Year ago +3690

    "Pokemon Platinum is a solved game" is not something I thought anyone would ever be able to say. It's both extremely impressive and slightly depressing.

    • @AlexsGoogleAccount
      @AlexsGoogleAccount Year ago +543

      "Pokemon Platinum Nuzlocke with Level Caps is a solved game" is not what I thought I was going to see when I played this.

    • @SarevokRegor
      @SarevokRegor Year ago +85

      Pokemon platinum played 4 billion times simultaneously is a solved game.

    • @drunkenhobo8020
      @drunkenhobo8020 Year ago +258

      It's also a good demonstration of why chess isn't a solved game. After just four moves for each side, there's already 20 times as many possible positions as there were possible games in Pokémon Platinum.

    • @skiller5034
      @skiller5034 Year ago +233

      @drunkenhobo8020 it's not the amount of possibilities really, (heck, you could artificially skyrocket the amount of possible games by voluntarily splitting timelines by making different inputs if you wanted) it's the fact that chess is simultaneously so restrained (each side HAS to make one legal move and ONLY one legal move on alternating turns) and so unrestrained (ANY legal move can be made on any turn) which prevents the many MANY re-syncs sprinkled throughout the playthrough and the meticulous planning based on perfect knowledge of what the AI will do.

    • @zander2758
      @zander2758 Year ago +97

      ​@skiller5034also only so many possibilities are "good" possibilities, a lot of branches in chess are moves players would never make realistically in a competitive setting, which is why we see a lot of chess games enter extremely similar if not identical board states from time to time since players that are good know which board state they want.

  • @Pacca64
    @Pacca64 Year ago +521

    "he was possessed I swear! He kept bumping into walls, mumbling nonsense like "eevee 3,428,735 will cause me trouble"! I was gonna check on him, but then he immediately beat me and after some more fumbling in a corner ran off!"

    • @thomaswang2223
      @thomaswang2223 Year ago +118

      “He even willingly used a sticky barb! Against an elite 4 member! Who does that?”

    • @Numbabu
      @Numbabu Year ago +104

      Imagine getting crushed in a methodical and extremely strange way, and then the person goes and sits in a corner and recites a nearly identical strategy but with a slight modification to crush any timeline you had not yet been defeated in

    • @Richleth
      @Richleth Year ago +29

      I want to see someone write a story using this premise. How would each main NPC react to our hero's omniscience.

    • @kirill9064
      @kirill9064 Year ago +1

      On r/LifeasanNPC

    • @HazhMcMoor
      @HazhMcMoor Year ago +11

      ​@Richleth a character is stuck in a time loop, and is trying to beat this weird "NPC" who for some reason succeded to crush the Pokemon League. But he's horrified because in every single loop, even when this "NPC" literally never changes a single move, he always wins no matter what.

  • @chimuelodelfuturo5620
    @chimuelodelfuturo5620 5 months ago +12

    my head canon for some reason is that if i show you a save file im playing you can easily identify it and say "oh thats the 10567th seed" and tbh i would believe you

  • @James-tp9gg
    @James-tp9gg Year ago +591

    I saw this come up in my subscriptions and thought 'Oh that sounds cool', clicked on it, saw who it was by, then literally audibly gasped out loud and said 'Oh my god!'. Very awesome, looking forward to watching this several times!

    • @matias_8823
      @matias_8823 Year ago +11

      Right? What an absolute based move, so excited for more of his stuff

    • @blob-dire
      @blob-dire Year ago +5

      literally the same thing happened to me

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Year ago +9

      this guy is a legend in my world. That first pokemon video absolutely 'sploded my brain all over the ceiling

    • @grantbaugh2773
      @grantbaugh2773 Year ago +2

      Same here. It wasn't until the video started that I realized who I was watching

    • @dorkiesanman
      @dorkiesanman Year ago +1

      I noticed his pfp and I did a double take

  • @XSquareWave
    @XSquareWave Year ago +244

    Considering Platinums story beats about parallel universes and creating universes, a video like this is pretty on brand.

  • @timlehmann9067
    @timlehmann9067 Year ago +111

    Finally. The "Everything Everywhere All At Once"-locke

  • @davidwang9350
    @davidwang9350 11 months ago +41

    can't believe i get to watch something like this for free, insane amount of work presented in a super digestible format with awesome visuals.

  • @miralyth3088
    @miralyth3088 Year ago +354

    [one seemingly random video]
    [one really long cool ass video]
    [2 years later, another really long cool ass video]
    genuinely my favorite upload schedule

    • @ChillyCharizard
      @ChillyCharizard Year ago +16

      That first one was meant to be an algorithm seed I think

    • @BaneOnAPlane
      @BaneOnAPlane Year ago +9

      @ChillyCharizard That video was necessary for all the timelines where his channel gets an algorithmic debuff early, which desyncs the timelines for two years and makes some versions of him misaligned with election cycles, so he can't leverage his vast media empire to become President of Earth in 2052.

  • @WereDictionary
    @WereDictionary Year ago +148

    "If one team member faints, I must release them in all versions of the game" - truly the biggest Wedlocke and the greatest multiverse crossover ever.

  • @adef
    @adef Year ago +152

    i want you to know that i dropped every single thing to watch this

  • @meldyluova3340
    @meldyluova3340 5 days ago +2

    Using mail to create a if condition if fucking smart and awesome ngl

  • @UnderAcheiver1
    @UnderAcheiver1 Year ago +180

    Holy shit the memory mail + Nature berries strat is so goddamn pretty and satisfying, incredible, brilliant, revolutionary. I can only imagine how pleased you were when you worked out you could do it.

  • @No-ln8wb
    @No-ln8wb Year ago +264

    "I'd have to practically be omniscient"
    Not even further comment after the line, simply an affirmation of fact, that was then confirmed.

  • @maxurmon
    @maxurmon Year ago +478

    33:55
    i love how the other eevee is shiny because OF COURSE IT IS, he is playing every timeline, every pokemon will be shiny in multiple of them

    • @ctnc6059
      @ctnc6059 Year ago +94

      Even better is it also had Pokerus.

    • @l_-Kazuma_-l
      @l_-Kazuma_-l Year ago +15

      So there is a chance that atleast one seed has a full shiny team?

    • @greattitan371
      @greattitan371 Year ago +33

      ​@l_-Kazuma_-lIt's guaranteed that there's at least one seed with a full shiny team, each starting with pokerus and perfect ivs

    • @deesoff
      @deesoff Year ago +97

      @greattitan371 Full shiny team maybe but it's extremely unlikely there's one with an all shiny team *and* pokerus *and* max ivs. I think you're severely overestimating how big a number 4 billion is.

    • @maxurmon
      @maxurmon Year ago +3

      @deesoff or you're underestimating it, we don't know, if you intentionally wanted it you could get a team like that easy by playing the infinite seeds, you just find wich point gets the wanted result (shiny, full ivs, pokerus) and make the simulator flip coins until it gets to that point, but since that wasn't the objective there is a high chance there isn't a starting seed that got that result by the patern he used, he would need to do a different one to make sure at least one seed gets it

  • @drifblimidk
    @drifblimidk Year ago +14

    "Dude you've been running in place in that corner for 4 hours, what the hell are you doing?"
    "Oh nothing, just waiting for alternate timelines to beat you and catch up."

  • @ampisbadatthis
    @ampisbadatthis Year ago +519

    the chapter 1 title reveal is the hardest I've laughed in a long time, I can already tell this will be a great video

    • @Aji-fc5vx
      @Aji-fc5vx Year ago +51

      Becoming Omniscient

    • @zackbuildit777
      @zackbuildit777 Year ago +38

      I literally said out loud "he better start a section called becoming omniscient" AND THEN HE DID!

    • @whatswiththisnewhandlesthing
      @whatswiththisnewhandlesthing Year ago +23

      ​@tswan137I can believe it. Muttering something to yourself quietly counts as saying it loud loud and I know I've done that watching videos

    • @zackbuildit777
      @zackbuildit777 Year ago +10

      @tswan137 there's no reason to think I didn't, though? This isn't that unlikely of a thing??? I just said it cuz it was funny when it happened and I felt like folks might find it funny even when just described

    • @techietisdead
      @techietisdead Year ago +2

      @tswan137 He said hell do it, and said to do it, hell need to be omniscient. It also makes for such a banger intro that its possible to guess it

  • @DelinquentVideo
    @DelinquentVideo Year ago +735

    Have you considered running a live stream of this sequence done on a random seed on repeat 24/7? Loved the video. One of the best pokemon videos on youtube hands down.

    • @ViridianMaridian
      @ViridianMaridian Year ago +67

      +1 to this idea

    • @inleorichas5505
      @inleorichas5505 Year ago +186

      maybe 9 games played simultaniously in a 3x3 grid pattern?

    • @Ironsnake345ify
      @Ironsnake345ify Year ago +26

      Hell yeah, I want to put that stream up on my TV and just relax for a while

    • @BUTKOVITZ
      @BUTKOVITZ Year ago +27

      Large grid would be really nice to watch

    • @somerandompersonintheinternet
      @somerandompersonintheinternet Year ago +65

      This sounds awesome in theory, but the problem is that almost (maybe more than?) half the time of the runs is just spent idling.

  • @Alex-z4j3k
    @Alex-z4j3k Year ago +103

    Spends 19 hours walking in circles around fantina
    :bro, what are you doing
    : just waiting for alternate realities to catch up, lol. Dont worry about it.

    • @N_e_o_B_o_n_e_s
      @N_e_o_B_o_n_e_s 10 months ago +1

      That’s gonna be my excuse for when I’m sitting there after finishing an assignment

  • @iBenjamin1000
    @iBenjamin1000 9 months ago +15

    brain short-circuited by trying to imagine how you even began to conceive of this concept so I'll just say congrats on beating pokemon platinum 4 billion times. truly a game that keeps on giving.

  • @JC34258
    @JC34258 Year ago +157

    This needs to be featured at GDQ. Even if a single playthrough of pokemon isn't a "speedrun", playing all four billion possible games in less than a millenia is one _hell_ of a speedrun.

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie Year ago +17

      fwiw tool assisted superplays/cool demonstrations at gdq have been a thing for a long time

    • @archerelms
      @archerelms Year ago +20

      It's a /little/ bit long for GDQ lol

    • @legendgames128
      @legendgames128 Year ago +1

      It'd be a multi-day affair to watch this LOTAD!

  • @dasirrlicht5415
    @dasirrlicht5415 Year ago +556

    "My Victory was guaranteed the moment I started the game." 48:35 This line goes so exteremely hard.

    • @Enethius
      @Enethius 11 months ago

      Extremely hard, indeed.

  • @Werster
    @Werster Year ago +2034

    Congrats on ALL% record, welcome to the club!
    (Also Sept 11th is not a decrease encounter rate date in Platinum, as it only applies in Japanese DP. Begging people to stop spreading this as an encounter modifier date, it won't work!!)

    • @martsnack
      @martsnack  Year ago +1019

      this comment prompted me to go check the code, and you're right! That tweet I read (sorta) lied to me! It's funny, given that I cross checked the list with the decompiled code but must've assumed it was right when the first couple matched up. Thanks for the info

    • @nicholaschan4481
      @nicholaschan4481 Year ago +34

      the legends are here

    • @garbagedataraccoon
      @garbagedataraccoon Year ago +131

      9/11 only applies in DP... in the language originating from a country that did not experience a terrorist attack on that day. A little ironic, but a neat tidbit.

    • @ashtargalaticcommand
      @ashtargalaticcommand Year ago +134

      Mr. President, a second legendary bird has hit the Tin Tower

    • @CR1MSONACE
      @CR1MSONACE Year ago +57

      ​@ashtargalaticcommand A second Ho-oh has hit the burnt tower

  • @lazprayogha
    @lazprayogha 22 days ago +1

    "I have to practically become omniscient."
    Part 1: Becoming Omniscient
    What a way to start a video. Instantly hooked.

  • @koutsioj4762
    @koutsioj4762 Year ago +264

    I clicked on the video wondering what does the title mean and thinking it was clickbait. But no, you actually did it and it's fricking insane. Also you only have a total of 3 (basically 2) videos on your whole channel which was very unnexpected because this was a fantastic video with great editing. You are an absolute madman

    • @Sleepy.Existence
      @Sleepy.Existence Year ago +2

      The first video was for the algorithm so that people can look up his channel specifically in anticipation of the 2nd videos upload back then, read it from the comments myself.

  • @hyun1874
    @hyun1874 Year ago +219

    You are freaking amazing
    I got the chills when I heard the next
    56:11 "Aaron is finally defeated in every possible reality"
    And many other golden quotes were there too:
    "My goal is to reach the credits in every possible game of Platinum. This is pretty easy, so as an added challenge, I’ll be doing it under Nuzlocke restrictions"
    "I'd have to practically be omniscient"
    "My victory was guaranteed the moment I started the game"
    You seriously put all timelines under your control
    I am still mind-blown by every single step you took to make this project work
    Hats off to you

  • @Oceanatornowk
    @Oceanatornowk Year ago +102

    Just want to shoutout your humor during the video. The infernape bench joke, stopping the distortion world joke, and did we do it joke were class

  • @Kolokythi
    @Kolokythi Month ago +2

    this challenge is the only challenge where 5 hours of prep time is needed to beat a slightly faster bird

  • @SephonDK
    @SephonDK Year ago +130

    This is technically billions of Nuzlockes at the same time, so I want Jan to react to this so bad. He'll be floored.

    • @UnpopularWalrus
      @UnpopularWalrus Year ago +9

      Surely that video will be an easy moneymaker for him 😂

    • @WolfOfLegend
      @WolfOfLegend Year ago +25

      "Reacting to billions of Nuzlockes AT THE SAME TIME"

    • @shadethenovice
      @shadethenovice Year ago

      Jan would just say that it wasn't a true hardcore nuzlocke cause he used items in battle.

    • @Rot8erConeX
      @Rot8erConeX Year ago +26

      @shadethenovice Yes, but he'd say it in jest because Jan is also a huge supporter of "if a rule makes the run unfun, get rid of the rule".

    • @James-vc1kc
      @James-vc1kc Year ago +6

      @shadethenovice would be quite moronic though, the level of planning that went into this, in spite of using items and not playing on set mode, is astronomically more complicated than anything jan's ever done

  • @quartzofcourse
    @quartzofcourse Year ago +1874

    The wildest part of this video is knowing that wild Pokémon observe September 11th as a holiday off from attacking trainers

    • @GallyIWas99
      @GallyIWas99 Year ago +476

      Notice also how the dates of the atomic bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (August 6th and 9th) are also days where the encounter rate is lower

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan Year ago +81

      What? There are calendar dates with reduced encounter rates in the grass or something?

    • @leaffinite2001
      @leaffinite2001 Year ago +48

      ​@ExecutionerDan yes a handful

    • @thebestworst8002
      @thebestworst8002 Year ago +276

      @ExecutionerDan On these days which are seen as tragic, wild encounters have a lower encounter rate. Funnily enough this wasn't discovered until a few years ago

    • @ExecutionerDan
      @ExecutionerDan Year ago +7

      @thebestworst8002 bruuuuuuh

  • @5ilverstreak854
    @5ilverstreak854 Year ago +82

    I can’t wait to rewatch this 53 times over the course of the next two years.

  • @proxy1035
    @proxy1035 2 months ago +3

    it would be fun to see an edited version of a full run with all possible games semi-transparent and layered ontop of eachother.

  • @parkerpete6654
    @parkerpete6654 Year ago +554

    Does this guy have a claim as the Best Nuzlocker in the World? They just completed FOUR BILLION RISKLESS Nuzlockes, which has to be a world record.

    • @AJarOfYams
      @AJarOfYams Year ago +45

      This has to be in the Tool Assisted section

    • @DisplayThisOkay
      @DisplayThisOkay Year ago +117

      @AJarOfYams Technically it wouldn't beacuse these are all just human capable inputs. The use of tools is just simulate playing multiple games at once.

    • @AJarOfYams
      @AJarOfYams Year ago +27

      @DisplayThisOkay Okay, I stand corrected on this one

    • @Ikxi
      @Ikxi Year ago +25

      you can make a TAS that's completely the same as human inputs, though I'd still call it a TAS ​@DisplayThisOkay

    • @DisplayThisOkay
      @DisplayThisOkay Year ago +16

      @Ikxi You could but the point of a TAS is a theoretically finding the fastest run which this is not even close to doing. As for this counting as a TAS I disagree. The actual non TAS runs of this game use actual RNG manipulations for catches crits, stats, and natures and avoiding moving trainers. The runs in this video on the other hand are for the most part just a knowledge check with a few manipulations that anyone could do.

  • @crazydov
    @crazydov Year ago +100

    16:10 i for one would love to see "every random trainer batfle that causes problems in depth" so much that id be willing to join a patreon for it. Or watch on it a second channel. Either way plz keep the incredible content coming

  • @giovanninordio
    @giovanninordio Year ago +23

    6:31 "This is pretty easy."

  • @dictyop7era
    @dictyop7era 2 days ago

    i'd be interested in seeing an extremely long video going through everything in the game tbh

  • @NBJmobile
    @NBJmobile Year ago +943

    This feels like a new category of game completion. If a speedrun is meant to pursue perfection where perfection is discovering the quickest possible time, THIS is meant to pursue perfection where perfection is discovering the set of inputs that will ALWAYS beat the game. Winrunning. I’m gonna call this winrunning.

    • @a2ndchnltoitslf
      @a2ndchnltoitslf Year ago +145

      I’d call it Multiverse%

    • @iamaperson7545
      @iamaperson7545 Year ago +114

      There's a term for that which is called solved games. An example of such is tic tac toe.

    • @logon-oe6un
      @logon-oe6un Year ago +63

      @iamaperson7545 A flowchart counts as a solve. I think you need to see the boardstate to win/draw tic tac toe.
      *This* requires no additional information apart from the game. More solved than solved.

    • @peepock7796
      @peepock7796 Year ago +19

      leaderboards are # of inputs and time, with # of inputs prioritized

    • @meeb_consumer
      @meeb_consumer Year ago +14

      Time-Bound vs Space-Bound

  • @ElenaPog
    @ElenaPog Year ago +1088

    This is quite literally, pokemon platinum nuzlockes solved. If all of the inputs were written out, anybody could follow this as a guide and beat a vanilla nuzlocke of platinum rng or not and I think that’s amazing. This is a phenomenal video

    • @davidherdoizamorales7832
      @davidherdoizamorales7832 Year ago +12

      It is not the most optimal solutions, so...

    • @ElenaPog
      @ElenaPog Year ago +311

      @davidherdoizamorales7832 For a single playthrough? God no it isn’t, you’re spinning around in a cave for 2 hours for 1 encounter. But I imagine this will be the most efficient ‘solution’ we will ever see for Platinum

    • @ImaginaryStudios
      @ImaginaryStudios Year ago +23

      well no, it doesnt follow all traditional nuzlocke rules (switch instead of set, items in battle)

    • @godstriker8
      @godstriker8 Year ago +23

      It's not, because any variance in timing will affect the RNG states. It's not just the inputs but the timing of the inputs as well.

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 Year ago +153

      @ImaginaryStudios no items in battle is a hardcore nuzlocke rule, not necessarily in a standard nuzlocke rules. also switch and set mode is a personal preference

  • @eulermachado3968
    @eulermachado3968 Year ago +105

    Less than 20 years after the release, solving a game of this complexity and even imposing nuzlocke multiverse rules, wow, you are a true legend. Congratz, its an insane feat.

  • @izjusme9504
    @izjusme9504 8 months ago +2

    "Part 1, Becoming Omniscient" is such a hard fucking image

  • @mossbag69
    @mossbag69 Year ago +232

    Congrats on beating Pantheon 5, Machoke

    • @somniad
      @somniad Year ago +7

      y'know, sometimes I want to know if someone else caught a reference or had the same thought as me and I scroll comments for a while and ctrl+f. sure did pay off! had no idea your @ ended in 69. the more u know 🌠

    • @Heka2
      @Heka2 Year ago +2

      It's smart about it, too, using (unbreakable) strength

    • @lessar2721
      @lessar2721 Year ago +1

      Spotted

    • @TheGoldenNick
      @TheGoldenNick Year ago +1

      Skong when?

    • @CarnerioTostado
      @CarnerioTostado Year ago +2

      I thought we had sacrificed you months ago for Silksong

  • @bubblepop3063
    @bubblepop3063 Year ago +61

    and here i thought TAS was the most technically optimised way a person could approach gaming. You, sir, have proved me wrong. A single code to defeat billions of simulations and RNG itself. I am amazed

  • @mushydyce
    @mushydyce Year ago +144

    Mart is the best type of creator. Someone who puts all of their effort into a cinematic masterpiece, then you check their page for more videos and there's only one other equally cinematic video.

    • @athath2010
      @athath2010 Year ago +11

      this is He works erasure

    • @mushydyce
      @mushydyce Year ago +1

      @athath2010 you’re dang right it is

    • @1unar_eclipse
      @1unar_eclipse Year ago

      ​@athath2010Why is it erasure? How do you know that it *isn't* the mentioned cinematic masterpiece?