Pokémon: Ruby, Sapphire, & Emerald Versions (GBA) Retrospective | Too Much Water
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- Well folks, we're back. After the landmark original generation, and the stellar continuation of it's second generation, it was time for Pokémon to take a huge leap. The Gameboy was a simple console with a lot of limitations, but the Gameboy Advance shed all of that, and thus, the next generation shattered that barrier and swung for the fences- a more ambitious, if questionable story, a stunning leap in color space, a bigger roster of Pokémon, new mechanics, and even some gimmicks that were legitimately impossible before. The Advanced Era was broad- I've covered it's middle children, Fire Red and Leaf Green, but let's go back to the first leap forward- Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions, released in 2002 in Japan, and abroad the following year. Through highs and lows, Ruby and Sapphire was an undeniable next step- ambitious, awkward, clunky, innovative, weird, interesting, and with a ton to see- while Crystal was my first, Ruby and Sapphire were the games that I have more full memories of exploring, and it's been interesting to walk back through it's hallways as the wheels of progress shifted Tajiri from the director's seat in favor of Pokémon's de facto face for the series for years to come, Junichi Masuda, who's strengths and weaknesses are perhaps at their respective highest and lowest points here.
==Pokemon Ruby Version and Sapphire Version== - (0:00:00)
Intro - ( 0:01:05)
Gameplay + Contests - (0:02:12)
Presentation - (0:10:32)
The Hoenn Region - (0:12:52)
Version Exclusives - (0:17:15)
Littleroot Town, Route 101, + Starters - (0:21:08)
Oldale Town + Route 103 - (0:30:09)
Route 102 - (0:31:15)
Petablurg City, Route 104, + Petalburg Woods - (0:34:34)
Rustboro City + Stone Badge - (0:398:29)
Route 116 + Rusturf Tunnel - (0:42:59)
Dewford Town, Granite Cave, Old Rod, and Knuckle Badge - (0:47:35)
Route 109 + Slateport - (0:54:10)
Route 110 + The Trick House - (0:56:30)
Mauville, Dynamo Badge, + Rock Smash - (1:01:45)
Route 117 + Verdanturf Town - (1:04:22)
Routes 111 + 112 - (1:08:10)
Firey Path - (1:10:02)
Route 111 North + Route 113 - (1:11:26)
Fallarbor Town + Route 114 - (1:13:36)
Meteor Falls, Mt. Chimey, + Team Aqua/Magma - (1:15:49)
Jagged Pass, Lavaridge Town, + Heat Badge - (1:20:45)
Route 111 Desert + Fossils - (1:25:59)
Norman + Balance Badge - (1:31:39)
Surf, Abandoned Ship + New Mauville - (1:33:35)
Route 118 + Good Rod - (1:35:54)
Route 119 + Weather Institute - (1:39:13)
Fortree City, Route 120, Sccorched Slab, + Feather Badge - (1:44:20)
Route 121 - (1:47:19)
Hoenn Safari Zone - (1:48:20)
Route 122 + Mt. Pyre - (1:50:38)
Route 123, Lilycove City, + Team Aqua/Magma Hideout - (1:53:19)
Route 124, Route 125, + Shoal Cave - (1:56:41)
Mossdeep City, Super Rod, Mind Badge, + Dive - (1:59:17)
Route 127, Route 128, Seafloor Cavern, + The Story of RS is BAD - (2:03:40)
Routes 129-131, Mirage Island, and Pacifidlog Town - (2:09:26)
Route 132, Route 133, + The Legendary Golems - (2:11:31)
Sootopolis City, Story Finale, Groundon + Kyogre, Rain Badge - (2:15:09)
Upper Meteor Falls + Ever Grande City - (2:22:02)
Victory Road + Rival - (2:23:45)
Elite Four - (2:25:50)
Battle Tower, Beldum, Latis, + Southern Island - (2:30:00)
Sky Pillar - (2:32:42)
Jirachi - (2:34:26)
Teams - (2:35:29)
Pokémon Special: Ruby & Sapphire - (2:37:13)
Conclusion - (2:40:08)
==Pokémon Emerald Version== - (2:43:50)
Intro - (2:44:57)
Gameplay (Doubles, Abilities, Rematches, and Leaders) - (2:45:37)
Version Exclusions - (2:49:40)
The Story, Trainer Hill, Battle Tents, Mirage Tower, + Magma Hideout - (2:51:02)
Altering Cave + Safari Zone Expansion - (2:55:20)
Desert Underpass + Johto Starters - (2:59:03)
Battle Frontier + Artisan Cave - (3:01:01)
Battle Facilities - (3:03:09)
Navel Rock, Birth Island, Faraway Island - (3:13:45)
Team - (3:15:45)
Pokémon Special: Emerald + Pokémon: Battle Frontier - (3:16:38)
Conclusion - (3:19:39)
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Dragon is a special type, I am stupid 😋
Dang 3 hours and 22 min. Mad respect. Subbed
The desert on Route 111 exists because of something called the "rain shadow" effect. Basically, Mt. Chimney blocks most rain that would land on its eastern side, and the area is extremely dry as a result. They didn't just randomly dump a desert there for the sake of biome diversity. Take a look at National Geographic or Wikipedia's article on rain shadow if you want to know more.
Is this actually mentioned in-game or is this another "Fridge Brilliance" thing where fans come up with fan theories on why any potential flaws in their game no matter how petty are totally brilliant actually, even though there's no indication the creators themselves actually thought about it that hard?
Forgive me for being suspicious, but I've had Pokémon fans try to tell me that stuff like the Azurill genderswap glitch was totally intentional actually and a totally brilliant reference to some marine life undergoing sex changes under certain circumstances. Of course that was bs, it was obviously just an error caused by the differing gender ratios that they fixed in later games. Not that the Pokémon creators never do odd things on purpose, Nidoqueen's inability to breed turned out to have been planned since Gen 1, but sometimes fans just really like to pull random real world phenomena that may not even actually apply if you look into them any more closely (Marill is not a clownfish or napoleon fish or whatever) out of their asses to make the games look more "legit" or whatever when the devs were just trying their best to make a fun game.
@rainpooper7088 I can safely say it's a real effect, although whether that was taken into account when actually designing the area, I have no idea. It wouldn't be the first time GF and Nintendo did something like that, though. They have an insane and weird attention to detail, especially around this time period of game development. It seems like the GBA/Gamecube first party games have the most examples of stuff like this.
I mean, Wind Waker has a specialized animation setup solely for Link's feet to not clip through stairs or slopes.
...damnit this makes sense! I remember playing and not understanding why there was some random desert, this explanation and what I read makes so much sense.
It’s a good day when you find a 3 hour long retrospective focused on the best Pokémon games.
*cough* we did gen 1 and 2 videos too *cough* haha thanks for watching appreciate it!
@@ntmaproductionsnow i know what to put while i clean my room.. thank you
But this isn't a HG/SS video?
@@ntmaproductions If only Gen 1 and Gen 2 weren't factual worse games than X/Y. :P
@@Firewatch___ absolutely false zoomie
Imaging rolling up to the Elite Four with Five zizagoons with dozens of rare candy stuck to their fur.
optimal strategy
@@ntmaproductionsand a level 84 blaziken
@@tonobaker601 and level 90 Sceptile
@@SaintWest.and a level 98 Swampert , along with a level 63 Dustox
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I don’t think that Zangoose and Seviper being version exclusives means that they don’t get to play off each other. It actually makes perfect sense. In one world, Zangoose thrives and has eliminated the Sevipers, and in the other, there are no Zangoose, which explains the existence of Sevipers.
I mean, true, but I think those Zangoose would be mad hungry 🤣
Slateport being nuked by Unova in the past would be hilariously messed up
I love that you touched on how hard it is to find Chimecho. Since no trainers use it in Ruby AND it has such a small encounter rate in a small area, I legitimately thought it was a Gen 4 Pokemon growing up (not helped by the addition of a pre-evolution in that gen). I played Ruby for hundreds of hours as a kid and never once found it.
its index number indicates it was the last gen 3 pokemon added/made, so funny enough they probqbly just didn't have time to impliment a trainer to use him for the dex search :)
Reminds me of skarmory. I thought it was a gen 3 for a long time
I literally didn’t even know chimecho was findable in gen 3 and I’ve been playing it for like 10 years
@@Haydenrwyattsame rn bro
As an OG old ass Pokémon fan, gen three will always be my favorite, despite all its flaws
Me too!!!
Groudon being in an underwater cave makes more sense than you might think.
Rhetorical Questions: Where do volcanic islands come from? How do they form?
What *doesn’t* make sense, is Team Magma’s plan.
Releasing Groudon to intensify the Sun’s rays *might* dry up the sea… eventually… but in the short term (if irl Earth is analogous to Pokearth), the Intense heat would rapidly melt the planet’s ice caps thus *raising water level* which is a W for Team Aqua.
If Team Magma wanted more land, they should’ve leaned more into Groudon’s GROUND typing and looked for a more *seismic* solution out in the sea; get some more volcanoes out there.
…which might cause Tsunamis, which would flood the current landmasses with more water, so I guess Team Magma was screwed from the beginning.
I mean the Groudon point is fair, moreso it's an illustration of how Ruby feels like an afterthought- I know the Manga potrays the caverns as an interconnected network under Hoenn linking it to the volcano, but it still feels weird to surf to the physical embodiment of land. Magma and Aqua both have an inherent struggle with seeming reasomable because neither land or sea seem to be facing any kind of issue with resources, so increasing or decreasing the landmass makes them both look rather silly. ORAS actually makes this stronger by relating Magma to civilization/technology/progress etc and making it clear they're very human centric in wanting to dominate nature while Aqua leans more towards crazed PETA members who just want to return to nature. Perhaps that intention was more clear and lost in translation, but I'm somewhat inclined to believe that someone at GF also realized how shallow (haha) the teams came off and attempted to make their motivations make more sense, even if Magma ultimately still has a lot of hurdles making more land. Perhaps they could've had Groudon shoot magma into the ocean itself to make some nice hard lavarock to stand on.
Sea level won’t rise if ice caps melt. It maintains its level anyway. Same with ice in a cup of water.
@@GenThreeGuys-bt7li
You… realize that there’s plenty of snow and ice *above* the ocean’s surface, right?
Do you even understand how the ice cube thing works? That only counts for ice that’s *SUBMERGED* in the water.
There’s this thing at the bottom of the planet, called *Antarctica;* maybe you’ve heard of it?
If you look on a globe you *might* find that it is, in fact, *not* underwater.
Gen 3 is my personal favorite. Great video
I liked firered and leafgreen a bit more than ruby, sapphire and emerald. Mainly cause of how the vs seeker and the stronger trainers on the sevii islands alllowed training to high level pretty smooth and easy compared to many of the other pokemon games. Even Gen 5 with its audinos and fast smooth battles wasn’t as good as Gen 3 for training. I know black 2 and white 2 had that tower you could rebattle at high levels but that could still be tedious and I still prefered gen 3. R,s,e are quite a bit more of a drag tho than the red and blue remakes because of limited post game and training available.
I don't know how many generations you're familiar with or would want to do full videos on but I hope you continue doing this for as many gens as possible
all of them, all of them, and I plan on it :)
@@ntmaproductions amazing!
@@rajko15 ORAS is in production :) Colosseum is too but is kinda backburner right now, and I'm also planning on doing Pinball soon too, although that's a pretty different game
@@ntmaproductions that's awesome man keep up the great work! 👏🏻
@@ntmaproductions Nice! I'm very curious about what you'll think about BW, XY and SM, especially their post games.
I nearly sank to my knees out of happiness when seeing this on my frontpage - I am looking forward to listen it many times 😊 Thank you for the great work
Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire coming soon!
Sinking to your knees is wild
@@ChrrolloDI I thought the same when I met with your mom the other day - but she still did D:
@@traiges414he's not gonna peg you buddy. Move along to someone who will.
As a non english speaking kid, I took great pride in my Swellow, who had all ribbons in all of the contest categories. Even pallparked her away to the sinnoh region to get all the ribbons once more.
Swellow was the hoenn flying type usual choice. The only weakness it had was how frail it was and its attack was decent but not great. It was fast as heck tho in speed.
Fun fact this is the first video I ever saw that has been uploaded that fast onto RUclips!! Wow and thank you!! Lol
gotta go fast
Just also gave it my first liked video too! Lol 😊
Just finished it, amazing job man. You truly know how to do retrospective feel like audio strategy guides. Thank you so much for putting so much effort and patience and not being cringe like other channels.
lol thank you
Great video I can appreciate the time it took to make this, looking forward to a Platinum retrospective
ORAS and Colosseum first, then DPP! but i appreciate it!
I will watch these forever. Haven’t even started abd alredg earned a sub dude
Amazing video, my favorite retrospective I've seen on any topic, pokemon or otherwise. Thanks for your efforts!
Glad you enjoyed it! These take a long time to get done so we appreciate it!!
@@ntmaproductions I'll be checking out your others soon, looking forward to more of these in the future, in particular for DPP!
Finishing up ORAS then we’ll hop into DPP! If you go to our channel page we have playlists with game retrospectives and Pokemon retrospectives specifically. Thanks for checking out our stuff!!
@@ntmaproductions Lots to look forward to, and I'll definitely have a look
Feebas is found in six water tiles on route 119 in the original gen III games. Changing the Dewford trendy phrase is what changes the six spots.
I believe the 4 spots that change daily is how you encounter it in gen IV in DPP.
Bro I couldnt believe how easily I found it the last play through of emerald! I played emerald countless times and ruby and sapp and could never find it but checking all the tiles I found it pretty easy. Felt like an achievement since when I was younger I could never find it.
Fyi the reason for so much water af the end was because hoenn is a water/land yinyang. The centers are sootopolis and mt chimney respectively. Its really neat because it represents the balance of groudon and kyogre, but results in a ton of water
Yeah that was just a reference to IGN’s initial review of it back in the day lol
I first watched your GSC restrospectives a while back and I just got this video recommended today, glad to see you’re still making these! As a fellow upstart long-form-video-game-related-video-maker guy I know how much effort goes into these massive projects and it’s nice to see you’re getting some attention on your work. You clearly know your stuff and present it in a way that had me entertained enough to watch this in one sitting, kudos! Should’ve done this back when I saw the first video, but I subbed
It's a lot of work 😅 I'm sure you'll get there too pal, I'm gonna check your stuff out while I'm working tomorrow. I appreciate it a ton!
@@ntmaproductions Thanks brotha, gonna keep at it for the love of the craft and if the algorithm blesses me then so be it! Hope you enjoy
@@kyotofoo All about keepin it goin, someone will notice eventually
Hope one of these videos blows up super big for you…a good million or two..I always think X & Y has that potential, hasn’t really been a in detail retrospective, at least that I can remember. So many damn Pokémon in that game though, you’d have to cover so much
someday 🥲
I had just gotten into ur channel and got through all ur Pokémon vids this past week and to be treated with this now was certainly a surprise but can’t wait to watch it all
Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire around new years!
@@ntmaproductions don’t be afraid to take your time with them if it means them coming out a little bit later, don’t rush yourself to meet a personal deadline if you don’t feel the quality is there but I’ll be waiting for the upload whenever it does happen, ORAS are my favorite games from the 3D era so looking forward to it
@@nvxvHa oras wont be too far off :)
Fuk yes, is finally here. Gonna leave it in the background as i work
Recommended this at like 400 views, no clue what channel. But the comments… such glimmering reviews, I have to give this a go. 👏
One of my favorite Gens! Love that intro!!!! ❤🎉❤🎉😊
Loved the video! Thanks so much for your efforts and I hope to see more. ❤
plenty on the way :)
I came here from watching on my TV to comment that I laughed harder than I should have at Linoon Hutz.
sometimes i hit a really brilliant nickname
Great video, really quality. As I usually do, I played a long video to help me sleep but I ended up watching like 45 minutes of it because it was pretty engaging. Came back this morning to finish her off.
If I could make a critique, I think that adding a black border around the white numbers you used to show the levels that Pokemon evolve (Ex. 23:48) would make it more readable superimposed on the gameplay.
Obviously a small nitpick on a great vid, yea good stuff.
Thanks 🙏
I had the black border in prior videos but gimp, somehow, doesn't have an outline function for its text tool (that I know??) and I wanted to get this out in a mroe reasonable time than adding the numbers in seperately in vegas as i had in the gsc video 😭
Seeing this for the first time today… hearing that untie song for these games still makes me freaking weep from nostalgia
LETS GOOOOO RIGHT AS I ENDED WORK FOR THE WEEK TOO THIS COULDNT BE BETTER
Another banger! Thanks so much for doing this series, you’ve done an amazing job with all of them. I really appreciate all your hard work !!😊
Thank you!! ORAS is plodding along :)
1:01 Ah yes, pokemon ruphire, my favorite game
gamefreak was cookin
best legendaries, kyodon
@@Zone_Person every turn sun and rain alternate
yes
and the green dragon, kyoquazadon
I assume that Steven's Aggron has Thunder for Kyogre and Solar Beam for Groudon, but uh... good luck hitting either of those hard enough for it to matter!
lol that's a really funny idea
Idek what this is but it goes hard when it auto plays while I’m asleep
I want to start with y'all's videos on pokémon are absolutely top tier I love how you all cover the entire game and routes.
When I was younger I had to save up enough money as I didn't have an allowance to buy gold and my game boy color. I was absolutely immersed in that game and played it for hours catching every pokémon just basically beating the game entirely. I remember when I was 12 or 13 I saw commercials for Ruby and Sapphire and it was on the brand new system game boy advance. At that time I just knew that I would not be able to play the new games after just purchasing a game boy years prior. That's where my journey with pokémon kind of ended. Fast forward to when I was 16 I was loaned a Nintendo DS, the first thing I did with my pocket money was buy pokémon emerald.
Nostalgia is very blinding but it's very different when you're a teenager playing this game. It's still ranks highly in my top two pokémon games of all time, Yes it has flaws however the game is very comforting soundtrack and all.
I loved how it forced you to use new pokémon and sprinkled in older pokémon throughout the game, gave you an opportunity to experiment with new teams. A lot of my new favorites were founded this way. In gold version Kanto was primarily the dominant pokémon in the game so when I got to play emerald it was very refreshing. My dream version with this game is to download the ROM and edit it in a way that breathes new life into the game while holding the similar nostalgic feel. Update the new type chart, add more pokémon without making it a hardcore randomizer. Just emerald with a few bug tweaks, and a fresh coat of paint.
I love this generation Even with its flaws..
despite everything I love Gen 3, very comfy in their own ways
My fav game of all time. I may be blinded by nostalgia, but thats okay with me
We eating good tonight boys
I found this video by chance and I just happened to be in the mood to play Pokemon and ho boy, your video is awesome, it tickle my nostalgia goggles. I have a fond memory playing Ruby and Sapphire on my GBA and GBA SP, with Sapphire as my "main” game, with my Sapphire team of Sceptile, Gardevoir, Pelipper, Crawdaunt, Flygon and Armaldo while my Ruby team of Swampert, Gardevoir, Swellow, Linoone, Manectric and Wailord. Maybe not the best team but i really fond of them. My favorite memory is catching shiny Kyogre with 1 Great Ball at full health, something i never know can happened. I'm not really like the pink Kyogre, but i think i'm already use all my luck to catch it. And i never knew about Emerald until my best friend who have Emerald told me about Rayquaza. Your video really makes me want to play gen 3 again, maybe i'm gonna try playing Emerald, either the vanilla one or rom hack that ”fix” the game with later generation mechanic and pokemon or heck, a moemon rom hack for something different.
armaldo is such a sick pick tbh. personally don't think emerald needs improvement patches, but you do you. 😅
In my opinion, these games still have the best opening compared to any other Pokemon game
I'm partial to HGSS
i picked up on the "brutal pun" with sharpedo. nice
>Pokemon Emerlad Version as the name of one of the chapters lol. Great video btw
we're so back
Surskit can also be found in Emerald through mass outbreaks in the postgame
only if you record mix with a copy of RSE :p
One thing to Note about Lunatone is that it's the only way to get a second moon stone .
So If you play Ruby Or Emerald you technically can't get both Delicatty or Wigglytuff without trading making them Pseudo version exclusives, this was fixed in the remakes to have pick-up find moon stones at level 40 plus.
Only Gloom needs the sun stone which is a gift from a NPC in moss-deep city space centre.
I do eventually round-about mention that when I talk about Mt. Moon, but it seemed too weird and complicated for a simple version exclusive bit 🤣
*Meteor Falls
look at me go
Also notable in ORAS you can get moon stones off of clefairy as well, as well as a multitude of other ways like secret bases, super training, and inverse battling.
the pseudo-version exclusivity also extends with emerald because of sunkern :)
@@ntmaproductions I always forget about Sunkern being in Emerald.
@@mairain6443 i always forget about sunkern
Been waiting for this one 👀
amazing video man
oras tomorrow ;p
As flawed as the game is i find it amazing. One nick pick on the story i wish they would have done would be to have Kyorge go to Mt Chimney and try to flood the land while Groudon would go to sea to try to raise the land. Seeing these effects would have been amazing to change to layout of the land while its at it (flooding the land or drying the sea forcing you to change your tactics to travel.) In emerald it would have been nice to see Rayquaza appear in the middle of the map to stop them both.
Still my favorite Generation of Pokémon. Followed by Generation 4.
Groudon under water actually does make sense because of underwater volcanoes but yeah, they likely just swapped sprites.
And the fact there's a volcano in the mountains already established
As a surskit fan, you perfectly explain was Masquerain is a disappointment. Which is a shame, because the design is great
I have dreams about Masqurrain having 630 bst
FINALLY HERE ON A VIDEO DROP!
00:54:40 what a magical sentence
I remember getting stuck because I thought the guy who traded shards for evolution stones was the guy who gives you dive
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good work here man. I liked this a lot more than FR LG. That vid felt a bit too complainy to me.
Your narrative is amazing!
2:46:23
Overworld Ability effects bring in new and fun ways of getting the wild Pokémon you would want. Too bad that is gone from SV.
true, love magnet pull, strong ability
@@ntmaproductions Synchro is the best in Nature hunting when having any neutral Nature. You can get Ralts from Route 102, which is early before Tsutsuji/Roxanne. Neiti/Natu is found at the Safari Zone, which is later.
1:33:31 audio mastering error. Ps. I enjoy how the slaking evolution is just a metaphor of fatherhood
2:45:10 Nah, the gym teams were far more competitive in Yellow 😂 Blaine and Giovanni's teams alone already set Yellow as leagues better than Blue/Red
Seriously though, awesome video - I've been looking forward to watching this and love it. That Unova joke killed me 😅🤣
Okay, some of the Yellow teams are decent but look what they did to poor Koga 😭😭😭
@@ntmaproductions true his team was very questionable - aside from his ace. Level 50 Venomoth decimated my teams when I was a kid and his Weezing in Red never gave me the same issues (good old selfdestruct 😂)
Great video though man, honestly love it and looking forward to the next one
@@EricWalkerUk I appreciate it! ORAS and Colosseum are both in some stage of production 😅
@@ntmaproductions looking forward to those, especially Colosseum
Oh wow you still make these. Good day
They come out as fast as I can make em :)
god i love you guys sm
A 3 hour review of RSE, hell yeah. I grew up on leaf green but played sapphire when i was like 11 or 12. I love all the gen 3 gba games. On that sapphire game i grinded out a lvl 100 salamance by going through the elite 4 like 50 times. I also found a shiny lairon while grinding before the elite 4. I wish i could of caught it but it used roar and crushed my dreams. I picked up a copy of Emerald about 3 years ago, and i have a soild 150 hours in the game. I've gotten a full hoenn living dex, and with my other copy of Emerald, i got all the johto starters. Ive tried the battle frontier and man is that hard. The game RNG works against you in every little way. So far my team is an EV trained metagross and dragonite with pretty crappy IV because you can't control that in these games without that rng manipulation, which im too stupid to understand. And then i got my salamance from my sapphire copy. Im thinking about adding a swampert to my team, but im trying to find one with good iv and go through that terrible process of training it. Overall i still think the look of the gen 3 games is the best. Gen 4 and 5 look good, but everything looks to small or to big. The gab games had everything look right. I hope we get them on NSO but knowing the pokemon company that will never happen
Can't go wrong with Swampert, my man fears nothing and has the bulk to back him up, plus some crazy moves for this gen. The batlte frontier is quite hellish in this game, as is the grind 😅
They had the GB/GBC game on 3DS how we haven’t gotten any form of switch release seems crazy to me for the GBA games. Nintendo and Pokemon company need to work something out since that would sell tens of thousands of switch online premium subscriptions…
Im right now try build a team of zigzagoon and while I grind them up a shiny Ralts showed up. 😀
wow! great find. I talk about my shinies at some point in the video 😅
honestly, in the pokemon universe living indefinitely on the ocean probably isn't as hard. i don't know if the games keep the whole "water pokemon water isn't drinkable" thing, but... you also have fire and electric moves, for example, which will easily let you distill seawater. and even if water pokemons water isn't directly drinkable, the fact that it doesn't cause horrible environment damage on a constant basis suggests that it is completely harmless to plants and has no ill effects on crops. and i believe the berry master in this game mentions pokemon waste can be made into fertiliser, which i would assume would apply as well to human waste. and if not, im sure there's some way to use some of the magical powers of pokemon to process/dispose of it. really, id be more concerned about a storm bashing the houses together/into those big rock walls (although those may not canonically exist... it may just be a game contrivance)
I imagine next up will be Diamond, Pearl, Platinum and the Diamond and Pearl remakes.
After ORAS that is next up 👍👍
@@ntmaproductions Awesome. Thanks. Also I think you forgot to mention one other thing about route 113. The Glass Workshop. You get a Soot Sack from the boss there which is used to gather that volcanic ash at route 113 which can be used to craft various items, including a flute that makes a pokemon that is infatuated come to it's senses.
Its wild how you mention all the issues in the first 3 gens and i NEVER had any complaints or struggles, pokemon was a cake walk i mean jfc just teach something surf and that alone solos 99% of the game, i soloed yellow and red with Charizard, my gator boi in gen 2, and swampert. Now i did start to use legendaries obviously... who didnt? But i legit just used my starters to solo bc it was easier to just level 1 mon.
Damn tootin
that's the most boring way ypu could possibly play
gen 3 is my first pokemon game
A few months back I wanted to see what my Analogue Pocket and my Everdrive Mini could do. I discovered ROMs and was able to play gen 3 for the first time in a long time
hell yea!
Where can i download Riphire Version?
As a metroid fan, i think dtought slaps
Hey man, don't put down Metroid like that, their beep boops are way cooler
Locking in
so, about Sturdy (paused at the Sturdy Shedinja gimmick) and hopefully this doesn't come across as "um, akshyually".
In Generations 3 and 4, Sturdy only protected from the actual OHKO moves like Fissure, Sheer Cold, etc.
Sturdy got reworked in Generation 5 to leave any Pokémon that would ohko it from full hp with 1 hp to go along with the hard OHKO moves.
Yeah I definitely screwed up there :p
@@ntmaproductions All good.
I always hated the map and story of hoenn. It’s not just the water, it’s the whole mid game too. Like the bit where you just have constant spinda. The kecleon bit, the lunatone/solrock bit. And I can’t remember exactly what it is now but I remember there being a load of boring backtracking in the mid game too.
My favorite part of Gen3 is that I get to use Ninjask and absolutely be a total twat with it...I would hate it if other games or the competitive scene would let me be the level of A-hole I was with Ninjask on Gen3.
I used cheats on my ROMs because, why not?, and I loved to have a Ninjask being a fast crazy blur. You make it do Sword Dance, let it build speed with its passive and keep a good physical attack...it makes playing fun because its a game of rushing attacks with a Pokemon that can be blown away with an angry scawl if you are not some weak Caterpie for example LOL it was funny, ok? Just go to the Elite 4 and make Ninjask keep trying to wipe everything 😂😂😂😂 The Little Cicada That Could 😂
I just started this one but I like your videos, there is obviously some research done.
Ninjask is pretty crazy if you give it the runway 😅
That’s not how Sturdy works in this Generation… not until Gen 5.
Shedinja would still die to anything that sneezed on it, especially now that Wonder Guard would be gone.
Yeah, I mentioned how bad sturdy is in this video and still said that abour Shedinja because I forgor
also yea, you're the 30th person to point out dragon is special, because dragon is a dumb type
4th, but who’s counting right?
Great vid, couple mistakes I noticed that don't take away from your video but you got the feebas method wrong, you mentioned it's 4 spots that change daily which is how it works in the sinnoh games, in the hoenn games its set in stone what squares they spawn based on your ID or SID I think it's 6 squares in hoenn but they don't change daily. Also Flannery's grandfather left the gym to her not her father who is Kabu in sword and shield lol
DANG. You're right. Feebas' whole thing is such a mess and I know so much that I get crossed wires. Never noticed the Kabu connection, pretty clever.
@@ntmaproductions hey hey I'm the same, I'm so engrossed in pokemon facts that sometimes I mix them up, usually what game something was updated..like I could've sworn the repel pop up was introduced in BW but it was BW2
@@pokemontrainerthink9045 I think I pretty specifically imply that Pelipper got Drizzle as a HA in this video. It does not.
@@ntmaproductions eh oh well haha I subbed anyway started on the rby retrospective today
@@pokemontrainerthink9045 I hope you enjoy it :) ORAS is well into production and should be out soon, and the playlist has RBY and their remakes and GSC and their remakes (plus a few bonuses)
The smeargle cave is pronounced art-is-an btw, it's like a synonym for creator/artist
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Too much water
dragon is special this gen
ye i messed up, dragon is such a silly type
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The things I dislike about Gen 3 are:
- removal of the day and night circle
- introducing version exclusive legendaries which lead to people having to buy multiple of the same game to complete the dex as it is unlikely someone is gonna give up their only legendary
- too much water: You mentioned it but it goes further. The most viable starter is a water type, you need a water type for the hms, some of the best Pokemon are water type, in the sea routes you fight only water types, the final gym leader is a water type, the best Pokemon in Sapphire for ingame play is a water type, a water type get the most advantage ingame runs because rain is the most frequent weather in routes, in Emerald the Champion uses water types... it is so annoying.
- not being able to transfer Pokemon which I forgive them for hardware limitations but the way they allow you get old Pokemon back is scummy by putting very few of them in multiple games. You need to buy Colosseum and XD to get Lugia and Ho-oh unless you can get to Navel Rock. You need Pokemon Channel or the Colosseum Bonus Disc for Jirachi, Celebi and Mew are Japan exclusive, Deoxys and Mew you need a glitch to get
- roaming Pokemon glitch which is only fixed in Emerald making the roaming Pokemon for battle tower like challenges less viable. I managed to beat the Battle Tower thanks to Sapphire Latias whichi is a surprise. To get the dogs (beasts, cats or dinosaurs Idk the lore anymore... imma call them just dogs) at their best potential, you need to get Colosseum.
- Groudon not being a Fire Type. It just doesn't really benefit from Sun besides losing the weakness to Water. You are not gonna run Solarbeam on it (maybe ingame) because it's special attack is pretty low and Kyogre can just overwrite it with rain. Fire Blast is ok I guess for ingame. But you really gonna just spam earthquake and don't do much else with it. Most will probably just use their starters or what they already have. Kyogre has so much fire power with rain boosted STAB moves and the coverage of BoltBeam with high base power never missing Thunder, that you can just slap it on your team and it gets the job done. Not to say that Groudon is bad, in fact I think it does better than any legendaries in the games after do ingame (for the most part). Dialga and Giratina were pretty useless against the Elite 4 in my playthroughs
- Treeko being pretty underwhelming. Despite being a grass type, it is not able to break through the most common water types. Its only good move is Leaf Blade and it gets no secondary typing. Even when it got it's mega with Dragon Typing, you don't get Dragon Moves for it ingame from what I remember. So the only positives are the defensive advantages of grass type in that regard.
- Fire types are pretty underwhelming. There are only a few to get and because so many water Pokemon are there, they don't shine. Blaziken is the best and both STAB moves get resisted by the "too much water" squad Tentacool, Wingul and Pelipper. A shame because I like him the best of the 3.
I think the Zangoose and Seviper lore is neat. In Ruby the Zangoose killed all the snakes and in Sapphire and Emerald, Seviper succeeded.
Gen 3 Oblivious only protects you from Attract and Cute Charm ability.
Wynaut and its evolution are useful if you wanna trap Latias or Latios making them easier to catch. Otherwise they are pointless to use in-game.
I don't like Ruby in the Pokemon Special Manga. He is such a gary stu especially in the oras chapters.
good video. looking forward on the ORAS one
I'll respind to this un a but jts just a lot lmao
I don't mind day/night being gone much because I found timing my day around encounters to be a bit much, but it did add some nicr atmosphere. version exclusive legends are p inexcusable imo.
there sure do be a ridiculous amount of water, although I think I brought most of that stuff up 😅
as nice as transferring would be it was out of the cards, but they definitely milked it, even if colo and xd arr interesting themselves.
i brought up the roaming glitch in frlg too, but yeah its annoying.
idk if Groudon would've actually been better if it were fire. all fire moves in gen 3 are special, and while it woulda had p nasty fire blasts, it doesn't seem that impactful when its main competition was Kyogre either way
mega sceptule pretty good actually, it gets dual slash for dragon stuff and gets a massive bump to physical but also has insane focus blasts off its still amazing special and stuff, definitrly most improved
hopefully oras aint too far off 😅
illumise has an accent on the ending like zay.
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Pickup is not a terrible game design. Single player games don't need to be balanced and broken combos make a game more fun not less fun. Just look at Morrowind for the best example of this.
to some extent, maybe, but morrowind requires a ton of work and knowledge to reach that point. nobody accidentally breaks morrowind 4 minutes in, you need to know how broken fortify intelligence is and know your way around spellcrafting and enchanting. zigzagoon is very probably the first pokemon you'll get and even if you don't zigmaxx just having one heavily breaks the game. i don't doubt it was meant to be good as an intro to abilities but it also seems like gamefreak forgot how often you battle.
Just one thing. You mention how brock is hard in fire red and leaf green if you use charmander. Remember charmander learns metal claw in FRLG and makes it easier to beat brock
Onix's huge defense and pretty weak special def means that you usually have better luck just rolling on Ember and praying for burn rather than attempting Metal Claw imo, especially since its attack boosting effect is only a 10%. Also unlike Combusken, who you could hypothetically be using and which makes it neutral to Rock Tomb, Charmander/Charmeleon are outright forced to take huge damage off that attack and eat the speed drop.
Also I have made a FRLG video 😜
@@ntmaproductions I’ll check that video out!
Now this is what I’m talkin about. Gen 3 Best Gen.
My only gripe with Emerald is I can’t use Medicham
true my only gripe with ruby and sapphire is that it lacks mega medicham
dragon claw is actually special in gen 3
i know i messed that one up cuz drsgon is stupid 😭
@@ntmaproductions one tiny mistake in a fantastic 3 hour video is pretty darn good 😉 amazing work here!
@@colevitiritto8976 thank you!! it means a lot
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The easiest way to remember the special types is:
Every Eeveeloution + Dragon.
It’s that simple.
@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic thanks dad i'l get that tattooed on my forehead
how dare you diss little root towns theme music....& the double battles might not have been many but it certainly was enough! hmph!
At least Emerald gave us a bunch of double battle stuff 😅
Just started and I hear 'questionable story' which means a 99% chance that this video isn't going to touch on how the story is a case of cultural clash, and it makes complete sense if you're Japanese, or know anything about the Isakaya Bay Project.
Edit: A bit further in, and no NPC says IVs can be passed down through breeding because...They can't. That feature wasn't added till later.
More edit: Dragon Claw is mentioned as a physical move, when it's still special at this point, and Emeralds pickup is actually much better than ruby and sapphires as soon as you hit lv. 41. Focus Sash also doesn't exist in gen 3.
You also detailed the gen 4 mechanics for locating feebas rather than the gen 3 ones.
Your take on the Regis was...Interesting, considering regice was considered a top-tier staple back in gen 3.
Last edit: Doubles wasn't the official competative format till gen 4 onwards, before that it was singles.
You mention Mew never really had a gen 1 release and was absent in gen 2 entirely. Neither is true.
In addition, you seem to think that the battle frontier has more rng than it actually does. Aside from the usual random pokemon you face, the palace has no RNG at all, the factory doesn't give you weak pokemon randomly-it gives you stronger ones the more you trade, and the pyramids only rng is map layout (and the maps are simple enough it's not really an issue).
Overall, it was a good review, and kudos for doing a 3 hour one, however there were quite a few things wrong. 8/10.
it's based on real thing so it's good is a very weak defense when the story is such a titanic mess. plenty of allegories come out terrible.
you right on the egg thing, I make mistakes and the endless layers of mechanical revisuuons can be a lot to track, doesn't change the fact that breeding is and remains bizarrely obtuse until relatively recently
@@ntmaproductions While true, it would still be a good allegory if you're Japanese. The main issue western fans have with the story is they simply don't understand the references.
@@GoldenSunAlex Perhaps, although I think my issue is less the idea of the story, in fact the rival teams setup is relatively neat, and perhaps in context of the allegory it works, but the two sides hit such exaggerated points that it becomes difficult to take seriously even in the proper context, for the most part
@@ntmaproductions I think that was the point. They were representing the strawman arguments constantly presnted in the Isakaya project.
@@GoldenSunAlex Fair enough, honestly
Gen 3 is the moment I and many checked out of pokemon. It felt like a step back in many ways compared to gen 2, esp with respect to the scope of the world and the loss of immersive mechanics like day and night for an example.
Reducing the amount of possible pokemon and not making trading between the previous gens possible it felt like a cash grab despite the improved battle system.
I think that may a bit radical even for me but i respect it
@@ntmaproductions i mean pokemon is bad now. Squandered potential. The only thing that ive enjoyed of it recently are fan-made rom hacks.
@@jprec5174 no denying it's bad now and that elements of RSE established some of those reccuring flaws but I'm not gonna draw a straight line from RSE to XY
I agree completely. I was born in 1994 and I played Silver and Crystal to the point of obsession, and it's still a beloved game to me. When Ruby and Sapphire came out, I was unimpressed by the removal of some of the most interesting and immersive features, and witb how much worse the music sounded on the GBA (low quality instrument soundfonts and nearly every single song is just TRUMPETS) I just didn't enjoy the experience. I came back during Black & White and have since played all generations and RSE still seems kind of dull to me.
@@wedding2710 this is closer to my experience, yeah
Gen 4 incoming??
Yes but we have to finish Gen 3 first 😎
@@ntmaproductions oh fuck yeah im excited for colosseum, love your videos btw
@@edboi5354 not just colo but also ORAS 😅
i noticed the emerald section is spelt as "Emerlad"
Good catch 😅
Fixed :)
you have no whimsy!
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You can’t skill swap wonder guard, also gen 3 OU is the most played old gen on showdown
you right but trace and entraintment hit it for shenanigans when that move hits it. i forgot :)
I genuinely forgot how boring af Pokémon battles are
Why so many f-bombs? I am trying to let this play on the tv as I watch my son play, and I am forced to turn it off.
Potty mouth frankly
Pokémon Rphire
Slight correction on Spinda, it doesn’t have 4 million patterns
It has 4 BILLION patterns🙂
All this guy does is hate lmfaooo
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