This is exactly right. This is what I have been trying to tell others for quite some time now. Many believe that the water saved Noah’s family. No! What saved Noah’s family was Noah trusting in God In order to build the ark. The ark was how Noah was saved. The water was what Noah had to go through. But the water that the ark went through did not save Noah. His faith in God did
what does the TEXT say? "8 souls were saved by water" (8 souls were brought safely through the water)..........IT ALSO SAYS OVER IN HEBREWS "Noah built an ark to the saving of his house".................YOU JUST CANT GET YOUR MIND AROUND THE FACT THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IT TOOK 2 (TWO) THINGS FOR NOAH TO BE SAVED...................THE ARK!!!! THE WATER!!!!!...............THE ARK WAS USELESS WITHOUT THE WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW, "BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVE US"-----STRAIGHT FROM THE "BREATH OF GOD ALMIGHTY"...............................BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO ITS YOUR CHOICE!!
@@bartmcmillen5247 apparently YOU cant get your head around 1 Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:" what do YOU Not see in what Peter is trying to say.? .. Baptism saves because it is an act of obedience... Not because it cleanses us... the blood shed by Christ on the Cross is what cleanses and thereby saves us.. Not the act of Baptism... Romans 10:9-10 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. the Water that Noah's ark went thru did NOT save them... if anything.. it would have destroyed them... it was Noah's obedience to God in the building of the ark that saved Noah and his family... Just as obedience to God today.. by being baptized... gives aus a "good conscience"...toward God... this GOOD CONSCIENCE TOWARD GOD.. is what saves.... you can try to defend the idea that baptism saves all you want... but remember this.. there are hundreds of more scripture.. that suggest... belief alone saves compared to any that hint at baptism saving... and when there is a debate like this one... we need to let scripture speak for itself... the majority of scripture points to belief alone saving... we should believe what the majority of the scripture text suggests..to be clear on ANYTHING...
@@bartmcmillen5247 I disagree... the ark was NOT useless without the water... because even without the water... Noah and his family would have been saved living on the ark... senseless maybe... but the ark was Not useless... even on dry land.. AND who would have the ark been senseless to?... 1 Cor 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." the naysayers and the mockers were the ones who would have found the ark to be useless..
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation? Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony. The conversion process is described below. Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
I looked up an excellent explanation on this verse because I was wondering who are the authorities and Powers that are "IN" heaven with God and the angels
@@ministryofthewayofYehoshua, I believe what is written in the scriptures. This particular scripture is written as 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us..." After those words, Peter didn't write, "I didn't mean that, instead I meant..." Peter did not follow with/use negating or disqualifying words toward that statement. I do believe in Peter's statement "even baptism doth also now save us..."
@@ministryofthewayofYehoshua, I do believe that baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is a part of being initially saved. "Why is that?" ~ Because the question really is not if I believe it, but if those who penned the Bible believed it. Also because I've had others make it about me and not God's Word. And it is what is written in 1 Peter 3:21 among others.
1 Peter 3:21 "....baptism, which now saves you through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" - Rom 6 and Col 2:12 say that baptism "immerses" you into Jesus' resurrection which is what Peter is referring to in 1 Peter 3:21. And to be "raised with Christ" is another way of saying "regenerated." A regenerated person is going to live a righteous life which is attended by a good conscience as Peter mentions here and which will "testify" to God in the final judgement (Rom 2). Further, baptism washes away past sins which also provides for a clean conscience. So we have complete provision for our conscience - both past sins committed as well as for the future by living an obedient life going forward. Paul's emphasis is on how baptism saves a person from the power of sin while Peter here is focused on how baptism "births" a righteous person which God will deliver into His eternal kingdom just like Jesus was admitted to God's presence after his resurrection because he was righteous.
You did good, but to add, the Baptism itself or agency is the quickening of the Spirit... One is given the Spirit, made alive by it....and continually made alive by it. If you are alive a s you know it...would not that give you a clear conscience......before God... For the Spirit is the earnest deposit It was given as a pledge of our inheritance
It was given as a gift, it was give to renew us. To teach us all things, to bring all things to remembrance. To become One with Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38 tells us we must Repent and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and we shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
You’re misinterpreting those verses, all of them and that’s because you have not yet come to understand grace.. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16) not water baptism.. . Mark 16:16 - Jesus was not speaking of water baptism in that verse because He just saved a thief on the cross without him being baptized in water.. And John the Baptist had already told us (if we were listening) that someone was coming who’s going to baptize us with the Holy Spirit not with water like he was doing (Luke 3:16, John 1:33, Matt 3:11, Acts 11:16), so Jesus cannot be talking water baptism in mark 16:16, He was talking about Holy Spirit baptism which He Himself performs and according to Ephesians 1:13, we receive this Spirit when we believed not during baptism and we also saw it play out in Cornelius house . The other verses you cited too were all mishandled by you and you need to do well in searching the scriptures for truth lest you teach a work based salvation when the scriptures teaches that salvation by grace which makes it a gift not by our works of righteousness but by the works of Christ and His alone
A lot of confusion among believers concerning baptism involves the fact that there are two baptisms that make up the one baptism that saves us, water and Spirit baptisms. The Word says that there is, " One Lord, one faith, and one baptism"(Eph.4:5,6). Repentance and water baptism for the remission of sins cleanses the temple of our body's as the result of the shed blood of Christ. It is the" washing of regeneration"( Titus 3:5-7). During water baptism the Holy Spirit circumcises our conscience, removing the guilt from past sins, and restoring it to its original childlike sensitivity to sin. The word " regeneration" means to return something to its' original state. This is what Jesus meant when He said that we must become as little children or we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven ( Matt.18:3). The only way that this possible is to restore our childlike innocence which is the guilt associated with sin. Water baptism under the new covenant is the antitype of the old covenants type of cleansing the temple. Holy Spirit baptism is the Holy Spirit occupying the cleansed temple of our bodies. It is also the " renewing of spirit"( Eph.4:23). The Holy Spirit will not enter an unclean temple.
Acts 10:43-48 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Holy Ghost was received BEFORE baptism
@@kyriltolbert I'm am persuaded that according to scripture that the gentiles were water baptized before Peters' visit, years before, by John the baptist. Following the timeline of Acts ch.10, we have Cornelius being given the message from the angel to send for Peter in Joppa who would tell them words that would save him and his house hold. He calls some men to him and sends them to Joppa to get Peter. The Word says that as they were approaching Joppa Peter had his rooftop vision.( 10:9-11). He saw a sheet let down to him bearing unclean creatures. The Lords' voice then told Peter " kill and eat". Peter said," Not so Lord, I have never eaten anything common and unclean". The Lord then told Peter," What God hath cleansed call not thou common or unclean". After the third time the Word says," And the men that Cornelius sent were making enquiry at the gate". First of all, according to biblical Law of repetition the Word will repeat something said and/ or an event three times to direct our attention to an important spiritual truth. Three times in the vision it says that God told Peter, " What God hath cleansed call not thou uncommon". The words" hath cleansed", in the new testaments original Greek the word is" KaOapos" which is indicative and " which describes a situation that actually is as opposed to a situation that might be, is wished for, or is commanded to be". We both know that the new covenants water baptism is a cleansing as is the antitype of the old covenants cleansing of the temple with water and blood in preparation for its' occupancy by the Spirit of God. I've heard many say that water baptism isn't essential to salvation, but according to the text apparently it is because the Holy Spirit will not inhabit an unclean temple. Lastly, the only secondary conclusion I can come to is that Johns' baptism of repentance for the remission of sins became effective when the Lord shed His blood at Calvary. The necessity for the gentiles to be rebaptized in the name of Jesus Christ is because having His name called over us during water baptism is the equivalent of a minister calling a bridegrooms name over a bride( Do you take John Smith to be your husband?). Now the believer takes on the name of Christ. As us being part of the bridegrooms bride we must take on His name.
@@robertnieten7259 Gentiles re-baptized? When were the Gentiles baptized in the first place? You say "according to the text water baptism is essential for salvation because the Holy Spirit will not inhabit an unclean temple." Show me the scripture. Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
@@kyriltolbert Thanks for your comments. I have shown you scripturally and in the original Greek that remission of sins is forgiveness of sins by the removal of the guilt from past sins. That " remission" isn't the same application of forgiveness as what the Lord accomplished on Calvary so that all may have the opportunity to be saved. According to the original language remission of sins is a cleansing of sins. The spiritual application of the blood of Christ is what accomplishes this. In Heb.9:22 the Word says that," Without the shedding of blood there idms no remission of sin." In Matt.26:28 Jesus said," For this is my blood of the new testament which is shed for the remission of sins." The Lord also said, "Repentance and remission of sins should be preached among all nations beginning at Jesusalem( Luke 24:47)". That includes all nations Paul ministered in. At Sauls'/Pauls' conversion he spoke with the Lord and was fasting and in repentance for three days when Ananias came to him and said," Why tarrieth thou?( What are you waiting for?) Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins calling on the name of the Lord" In what since we're Pauls' sins washed away during water baptism? Ananias didn't say because your sins are washed away. What was the reason that Ananias told Paul to call on the name of the Lord , He had been calling on the Lord for three days. The only possible reason scripturally was to recieve the Holy Spirit. The Word " recieve" in the Greek means " to take hold of". Lastly, there are two truths necessary in order to understand the conversion of the gentiles: 1) The Law Of Repetition is an excepted Bible backed method of understanding scriptural intent. Peters' vision confirms this and that the gentiles had been baptized by John before Peters' visit. 2) All of Pauls' letters begin with the words, "..to the saints of.." thus we are not talking about laying down foundational doctrine in order to win souls, but explaining those doctrines first mentioned in the book of Acts in a more indepth manner. .
@@robertnieten7259 You haven't provided any evidence that the gentiles were baptized by John. We receive remission of sins upon accepting Christ as Savior. We are immediately indwelt by God's Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Thief on the cross was not baptized. He believed and was saved. We are JUSTIFIED by faith in Christ alone. For salvation to be through baptism one would think the law of repetition would be used. Instead, Christ said OVER and OVER: John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. Believe and be saved
Why do you say that? And what did Jesus Christ mean when He said “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” John 3:5 KJV What’s the water that He was talking about?
It’s the Name Jesus Christ that washes our sins away in that water, it wouldn’t be possible unless He killed sin and death in Himself. Remember what Paul said? “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?” Romans 6:3 KJV then he says: “Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:” 1 Corinthians 15:36 KJV so we have to die in order to be quickened by the Holy Ghost. We die from the old man and put on the new man. Praise Jesus Christ for the blood He shed on Calvary! He defeated sin and death!
@@glenarledge1825 that’s a lie from the devil himself. Also the Lord Jesus Christ said born again, what you just said makes no sense at all with all due respect.
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation? 1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony. The conversion process is described below. Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
Why doesn’t it (in ALL baptism verses) say that it “signifies”?? Never once does the Bible say that baptism is JUST a symbol/declaration. The Bible indicates that it is the means of entrance. Acts 2:38, John 3:5, Rom 6:1-5. Seriously? JUST A SYMBOL? I think not. It’s like everybody just twists and turns to somehow make baptism less meaningful than it is. And I must clarify. Just getting in water, just a sacrament, will not save. It is the faith behind it that does. In that moment we declare our trust in Jesus’ DBR by also dying, being buried, and being resurrected. It is the appeal. The crying out to God. It is obeying the gospel. Of course, is there faith? Is there repentance? Those save.
1 Peter 3:21. In the broader context of scripture this baptism is always connected to salvation, the forgiveness of sins. In baptism, there is made "an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21). That makes it refer to spiritual salvation and ultimately, if faithful, a resurrection to life rather than condemnation (John 5:28-29). However according to scriptural practice and the meaning of the Greek word "baptizo," baptism means water immersion. That's what Jesus commanded, and that is what we must do to be saved.
You’d know it’s a symbol if you understand the gospel of grace same way you’ll never find that God is Triune in the scriptures but if you understand the Godhead, you’d be able to see it.. Salvation is a gift, you don’t have to do anything to be saved, we are saved through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and that’s what baptism symbolizes.. When Christ died, we died with Him, when He resurrected, we also resurrected with Him and it’s all by faith alone not by works, just by simple faith.. . Explain this cases of salvation in the NT with your gospel of works, The thief on the cross and what happened at Cornelius house? How were they saved without being baptized in water?
@@aidanmcmanus2752 That’s very wrong sir.. John the Baptist said he baptized with water but someone was coming who will baptize with the Holy Spirit, is the Holy Spirit water? If according to you baptizo means water baptism, how will Christ baptize someone with the Holy Spirit? How was Cornelius and his household baptized with the Holy Spirit without being immersed in water? . Jesus never commanded water baptism my friend, you need to be careful lest you contradict the Lord of glory in your ignorance.. John was the one who baptize with water, Jesus doesn’t baptize with water, He baptize with the Spirit . Paul said Jesus did not send him to baptize but to preach the gospel, so it’s either Paul was lying that Jesus didn’t send him to baptize when according to you Jesus commanded water baptism OR the Jesus that sent Paul to preach the gospel is different from the Jesus you’re speaking of who commanded water baptism.. Examine carefully my friend the Jesus you’ve obeyed 🙏🏽❤️
I believe that water baptism just shows picture of washing away sins but the true baptism is when you are baptized with the Holy Ghost. So no I do not believe that water baptism is a prerequisite to Salvation. But I do believe that the Holy Ghost being inside of you is a prerequisite for salvation because without him you have no washing away of a sin.
As a Presbyterian, I believe that baptism saves, not in the sense of baptismal regeneration in the Lutheran or Catholic view, nor do I believe that water baptism saves. But there is a sign and a thing signified, meaning, while water baptism doesn’t save, baptism of the Holy Spirit does. However, the thing baptism signifies is not always tied to the moment it is administered. When someone is baptized, it doesn’t mean their saved. But the promises given in baptism do save, they are salvation promises. Baptism is not something I do, but something God does.
here is another question to consider: why do people make their appeal to God to be saved without the water: "unless a man is born of water and spirit he can not enter into the Kingdom of God.
@@liamballard7519 why, when Yeshua was puzzled by nicodemus' response to the physical as Jesus was referring to the spiritual? from the context of the passage, we need a reason to take what Yeshua said out of context: what is the reason?
Then why did he say born again?? He was not referring to his birth from his mother. “Born of water and the spirit “. That is one baptism not two separate baptisms, also baptism is an immersion, one going in and out of.
If anybody tells you that you don’t need to be baptized as a part of salvation, they’re going against the Bible just so you know. We must be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Not as a requirement for salvation though. Baptism is a part of being saved. Since we want to follow the Lord’s commands and be obedient. Baptism is comparable to Romans 12:1 thereby giving our bodies as a living sacrifice as our reasonable service. We are baptized as part of our reasonable service. Not as a requirement for salvation. But it is no use trying to explain this to those who think baptism saves since most who believe baptism saves also believe that one can lose their salvation as well. And THAT. is a bigger issue. No we cannot lose our salvation. Perhaps one was not truly saved in the first place. !
@@taylorransen7401 hello thank you for your question. Thief on the cross was under the old covenant, he died believing on the promise. The baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for remission of sins and also what is written in Romans 6. People on there death bed that have not been baptized have already made their decision if you’re honest with yourself. They waited until they knew that they would die to be baptized, you must Repent + be baptized+ filled with the Holy Ghost. Someone waiting until they’re on their death bed doesn’t sound like they have a heart of repentance.
@@jeffcarlson3269 that’s simply not true, I don’t believe that someone can lose their salvation but believe the Bible when it says it’s a part of salvation. How else is the old man supposed to die? It can’t be done from just turning from sin which is Repentance! You must be buried with Christ for the old man to die, Romans 6:3
Scripture nowhere says baptism is a "symbol" or "picture" or "signifies" or is an "identification," etc, etc. Scripture does say baptism does several things which anyone can look up but apparently are blind to.
1 Peter 3:21. In the broader context of scripture this baptism is always connected to salvation, the forgiveness of sins. In baptism, there is made "an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21). That makes it refer to spiritual salvation and ultimately, if faithful, a resurrection to life rather than condemnation (John 5:28-29). However according to scriptural practice and the meaning of the Greek word "baptizo," baptism means water immersion. That's what Jesus commanded, and that is what we must do to be saved.
@@aidanmcmanus2752 I agree with your conclusions but let me give you a different interpretation I wrote for 1 Pet 3:21: 1 Peter 3:21 "...baptism, which now saves you…by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." Rom 6 and Col 2:12 say that baptism "immerses" you into Jesus' resurrection which is the concept Peter has limited his discussion to here in 1 Peter 3:21. And to be "resurrected with Christ" is another way of saying "regenerated" or “born again” - and this occurs in baptism as cited previously. A regenerated person is going to live a righteous life which is attended by a good conscience as Peter mentions here and which will "testify" to God in the final judgement (Rom 2:6-16). Further, baptism washes away past sins (Acts 2:38, 22:16) which also provides for a clean conscience. So, we have complete provision for our conscience - both past sins committed as well as for the future by making possible the living of an obedient life going forward through a new birth patterned after God’s righteous character (Eph 4:24). Paul covers the whole spectrum of what baptism does; saving a person from the power of sin and regeneration to a new, righteous, life while Peter here focuses on the latter part; how baptism "births" a righteous person which God will deliver into His eternal kingdom just like Jesus was admitted to God's presence, after His resurrection as Peter reminds us here, because He, like Noah, was righteous (John 16:10).
Through Baptism we are justified. God sanctifies. That is what Peter is saying. We present ourselves as a holy and acceptable sacrifice. Without the washing away of sins, are souls are just as dirty. In other words, God looks at us directly and not through Christ. And since man cannot save himself then the man/woman that is baptized is destined for Hell. Secondly, Christ commanded us to be baptized for the remission of our sins in Acts 2:38.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: We are justified by faith in Jesus Christ. You say we can't save ourselves, but then you say we must save ourselves by being baptized?
@@kyriltolbert Philippians 2: 12So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13for it is God who is at work in you, both to [j]desire and to work for His good pleasure. This verse says that I am to work out my salvation. Does this mean I don't need faith or obedience? As you can plainly see is that Paul uses the word "work" (work out your own salvation.)" The work that one does is to keep Christ's commands, and that includes baptism. It was stated in Matthew, Mark, and Acts. What the Bible is saying is that if you have faith in Jesus Christ as being the Son of God, the key to salvation then you need to obey His commands. Jesus's command was to believe, confessing in being a sinner, repent, and be baptized. Those are His words not mine. If Christ is God's gift to us, then what is Christ's gift us? I will pray for you, as well.
@@jamesstrohl2016 Your work doesn't save you. You aren't justified by your works. In fact, Paul says in Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. To him that does NO work, he is justified that believes on Jesus Christ. Works are EVIDENCE of justification. That is what James is talking about in James 2. But to say, as you said, that we are "justified by baptism," is completely contrary to everything Paul wrote
@@kyriltolbert So, you are ignoring Philippian's? The point is that you are cherry picking verses. Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, Paul, by his own words, is saying that baptism is necessary. He baptized Crispus, Gaius and few more. He also didn't say baptism wasn't necessary. On the contrary his baptizing of those and others point differently. It is safe to say that Paul was baptized for remission of sins, and he says that in Acts 22: 15For you will be a witness for Him to all people of what you have seen and heard. 16Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins by calling on His name.’ Regardless, the Bible doesn't contradict itself. Christ, the very one that all Christians say they follow, said that baptism was necessary. I will ask you again. Did Christ say that going through Him to the Father was a free gift? Please give me the scripture where Paul says baptism wasn't necessary?
@@jamesstrohl2016 Philippians 2:12 is not talking about working to earn your salvation. That would contradict: Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Romans 11:5-6 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Yes, salvation is a free gift. You don't work to earn it. Baptism is important, but it isn't necessary for salvation. I believe everyone should be baptized, but if you include baptism into justification, Paul says: Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Nobody who believes that baptism is more than just an "outward sign of an inward grace" is focused on scrubbing their skin with Dove soap while they're being baptized. They're focused on trusting God to raise them from spiritual death because of and through the death, burial. and resurrection of Jesus. So, the efficacy of baptism is Christ and faith in Him, rather than just a normal bath on a normal day, but the fact remains that real baptism is in water, and Peter says real baptism SAVES you. Romans 6:1-6 --- dying with Christ, being buried with Him, and being raised with him to new life through baptism. Colossians 2:11-12 --A spiritual circumsicion of the heart done by God through faith at baptism Galatians 3:36 "sons of God through faith, FOR as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ." You dont have to, and you should not seperate faith and baptism. Baptism is connected to repentence, calling on the name of the Lord, and of course faith. "And now, why do you wait? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord!" Said to Saul
Jesus said to the man on the cross next to him "today you will be with me in paradise". (Luke Chapter 23 Verse 43). Had this man been water baptized??? Baptism happens because someone has been saved. Baptism doesn't save. The forthcoming coronation will not make Charles the King. Charles became the King when his mother - Queen Elizabeth the Second - died. The coronation is happening because Charles is now the King. A coronation for William or George would be nonsense as neither of them are King.
1st Peter 3:21 Baptism does save you. Not as removal from dirt from the flesh but an appeal to God for a good conscience. It is next to the final step of obedience. The thief on the cross was saved because Christ having all the authority on Earth at that time had the power to take the thief with Him to Paradise. Also, the Church Age had not come into fruition yet. It would be fifty days later.
you answered your own question brother, water baptism is a public declaration of faith after one is saved. It's an appeal to God for good conscience as you stated yourself. IF baptism saves you why did Jesus need to die on the cross? People think way to hard about this, works come after salvation not for it.@@jamesstrohl2016
Baptism in water , in the Name of Jesus is essential (not optional) for salvation! You must be baptized in the Name of Jesus!! Do not fall for this false doctrine!
He’s not saying it’s not necessary, he’s arguing at which point salvation is given in a believer. Before or after baptism, because to be baptized you must have faith prior to
@@ethanpeterson8275 Salvation comes when one obeys The Gospel. And we know The Gospel is the death (repentance), burial (baptism in Jesus Name) , and the resurrection (the infilling of The Holy Ghost) . I don’t understand how their is even an argument over this. Salvation is not complete until you obey the “whole” Gospel.
I find it odd that you only use 2 verses to determine your doctrine. 1: Baptism is NOT a requirement for Salvation. John 3:36 " He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." KJV- Believing is required, not Baptism. John 5:24 "“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” -KJV- Hearing and believing, not Baptism. Baptism is actually a 'work' on our part. Jesus does it all. John 6:47 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” -KJV- Again, Baptism is NOT Salvific. Was the thief on the cross baptized? Enoch that walked with God? Elijah? No? John 3:15 “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.” -KJV- John 3:18 “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” -KJV- Once again, BELIEVE ! Acts 16:31 “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” -KJV- BELIEVE. I could go on and on. People, don't take my word for it, actually pick up your Bible and do your own research. Never rely on one verse to declare a doctrine.
The second "believe" in John 3:36 should be translated "obey." It is obedient faith that saves. Obedience to Christ leads first to baptism. If you read the scriptures that explain what baptism does (Rom 6, Col 2:11,12, Gal 3:26,27, 1 Pet 3:21) and take them literally you might see that baptism is necessary to receive salvation. By salvation, I mean deliverance from slavery to sin plus re-birth into a righteous life.
@@bobthrasher8226 Jesus is the vine all who are in him will bear true fruit naturally but the fruit itself doesn't save its being in Christ. Obedience is a byproduct not a means to win God's grace/approval. But if you don't obey that means you're of the Devil and or the more probable cause is that your not spiritually mature/sanctified and that's a process of life
@@dittoman1995 ...and guess how you get "into Christ" and, hence, onto the vine? You're "baptized into Christ." - Rom 6:3, Gal 3:27 ...if, as I said, you take those passages literally.
@@bobthrasher8226Nope he chose us. Ephesians 1:5-6 he[a] predestined us for adoption to sonship[b] through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will- 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. Baptism is a seal/confirmation that an obedient child will partake in. In part due to the fact people who were baptized as babies often grow up wanting to do nothing with God and show signs of being unregenerate despite having the Holy Spirit in baptism
This is exactly right. This is what I have been trying to tell others for quite some time now. Many believe that the water saved Noah’s family. No! What saved Noah’s family was Noah trusting in God In order to build the ark. The ark was how Noah was saved. The water was what Noah had to go through. But the water that the ark went through did not save Noah. His faith in God did
Correct. For Noah, water was the DESTOYER, not the savior
@@BinkyWatruse AMEN... !
what does the TEXT say? "8 souls were saved by water" (8 souls were brought safely through the water)..........IT ALSO SAYS OVER IN HEBREWS "Noah built an ark to the saving of his house".................YOU JUST CANT GET YOUR MIND AROUND THE FACT THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IT TOOK 2 (TWO) THINGS FOR NOAH TO BE SAVED...................THE ARK!!!! THE WATER!!!!!...............THE ARK WAS USELESS WITHOUT THE WATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW, "BAPTISM DOTH ALSO NOW SAVE US"-----STRAIGHT FROM THE "BREATH OF GOD ALMIGHTY"...............................BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO ITS YOUR CHOICE!!
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apparently YOU cant get your head around 1 Peter 3:21
"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:"
what do YOU Not see in what Peter is trying to say.?
.. Baptism saves because it is an act of obedience... Not because it cleanses us...
the blood shed by Christ on the Cross is what cleanses and thereby saves us.. Not the act of Baptism...
Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
the Water that Noah's ark went thru did NOT save them... if anything.. it would have destroyed them... it was Noah's obedience to God in the building of the ark that saved Noah and his family... Just as obedience to God today.. by being baptized... gives aus a "good conscience"...toward God...
this GOOD CONSCIENCE TOWARD GOD.. is what saves....
you can try to defend the idea that baptism saves all you want... but remember this.. there are hundreds of more scripture.. that suggest... belief alone saves compared to any that hint at baptism saving...
and when there is a debate like this one... we need to let scripture speak for itself... the majority of scripture points to belief alone saving...
we should believe what the majority of the scripture text suggests..to be clear on ANYTHING...
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I disagree... the ark was NOT useless without the water... because even without the water... Noah and his family would have been saved living on the ark... senseless maybe... but the ark was Not useless... even on dry land..
AND who would have the ark been senseless to?...
1 Cor 1:18
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God."
the naysayers and the mockers were the ones who would have found the ark to be useless..
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation?
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony.
The conversion process is described below.
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
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I agree that "baptism saves us" through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Do you know what this means?
@@Rejoran I guess I’ll ask another way, do you believe that baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is a part of salvation?
@@ministryofthewayofYehoshua, I believe what is written in the scriptures. This particular scripture is written as
1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us..."
After those words, Peter didn't write, "I didn't mean that, instead I meant..."
Peter did not follow with/use negating or disqualifying words toward that statement.
I do believe in Peter's statement
"even baptism doth also now save us..."
@@Rejoran you seem to be struggling to be answering the question, why is that?
@@ministryofthewayofYehoshua, I do believe that baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is a part of being initially saved.
"Why is that?" ~ Because the question really is not if I believe it, but if those who penned the Bible believed it. Also because I've had others make it about me and not God's Word.
And it is what is written in 1 Peter 3:21 among others.
1 Peter 3:21 "....baptism, which now saves you through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" - Rom 6 and Col 2:12 say that baptism "immerses" you into Jesus' resurrection which is what Peter is referring to in 1 Peter 3:21. And to be "raised with Christ" is another way of saying "regenerated." A regenerated person is going to live a righteous life which is attended by a good conscience as Peter mentions here and which will "testify" to God in the final judgement (Rom 2). Further, baptism washes away past sins which also provides for a clean conscience. So we have complete provision for our conscience - both past sins committed as well as for the future by living an obedient life going forward. Paul's emphasis is on how baptism saves a person from the power of sin while Peter here is focused on how baptism "births" a righteous person which God will deliver into His eternal kingdom just like Jesus was admitted to God's presence after his resurrection because he was righteous.
You did good, but to add, the Baptism itself or agency is the quickening of the Spirit...
One is given the Spirit, made alive by it....and continually made alive by it.
If you are alive a s you know it...would not that give you a clear conscience......before God...
For the Spirit is the earnest deposit
It was given as a pledge of our inheritance
It was given as a gift, it was give to renew us. To teach us all things, to bring all things to remembrance. To become One with Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38 tells us we must Repent and be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and we shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Yes, baptism saves you. That's what one must believe before he gets baptized (Mk 16:15-16; Acts 2:38; 22:16; Rom. 6:3-8; Gal. 3:26-27; 1 Pet. 3:20-21)
You’re misinterpreting those verses, all of them and that’s because you have not yet come to understand grace.. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16) not water baptism..
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Mark 16:16 - Jesus was not speaking of water baptism in that verse because He just saved a thief on the cross without him being baptized in water.. And John the Baptist had already told us (if we were listening) that someone was coming who’s going to baptize us with the Holy Spirit not with water like he was doing (Luke 3:16, John 1:33, Matt 3:11, Acts 11:16), so Jesus cannot be talking water baptism in mark 16:16, He was talking about Holy Spirit baptism which He Himself performs and according to Ephesians 1:13, we receive this Spirit when we believed not during baptism and we also saw it play out in Cornelius house
. The other verses you cited too were all mishandled by you and you need to do well in searching the scriptures for truth lest you teach a work based salvation when the scriptures teaches that salvation by grace which makes it a gift not by our works of righteousness but by the works of Christ and His alone
A lot of confusion among believers concerning baptism involves the fact that there are two baptisms that make up the one baptism that saves us, water and Spirit baptisms.
The Word says that there is, " One Lord, one faith, and one baptism"(Eph.4:5,6).
Repentance and water baptism for the remission of sins cleanses the temple
of our body's as the result of the shed blood of Christ. It is the" washing of regeneration"( Titus 3:5-7).
During water baptism the Holy Spirit circumcises our conscience, removing the guilt from past sins, and restoring it to its original childlike sensitivity to sin. The word " regeneration" means to return something to its' original state. This is what Jesus meant when He said that we must become as little children or we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven ( Matt.18:3). The only way that this possible is to restore our childlike innocence which is the guilt associated with sin.
Water baptism under the new covenant is the antitype of the old covenants type of cleansing the temple.
Holy Spirit baptism is the Holy Spirit occupying the cleansed temple of our bodies. It is also the " renewing of spirit"( Eph.4:23).
The Holy Spirit will not enter an unclean temple.
Acts 10:43-48 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Holy Ghost was received BEFORE baptism
@@kyriltolbert I'm am persuaded that according to scripture that the gentiles were water baptized before Peters' visit, years before, by John the baptist.
Following the timeline of Acts ch.10, we have Cornelius being given the message from the angel to send for Peter in Joppa who would tell them words that would save him and his house hold.
He calls some men to him and sends them to Joppa to get Peter. The Word says that as they were approaching Joppa Peter had his rooftop vision.( 10:9-11).
He saw a sheet let down to him bearing unclean creatures. The Lords' voice then told Peter " kill and eat". Peter said," Not so Lord, I have never eaten anything common and unclean".
The Lord then told Peter," What God hath cleansed call not thou common or unclean". After the third time the Word says," And the men that Cornelius sent were making enquiry at the gate".
First of all, according to biblical Law of repetition the Word will repeat something said and/ or an event three times to direct our attention to an important spiritual truth.
Three times in the vision it says that God told Peter, " What God hath cleansed call not thou uncommon".
The words" hath cleansed", in the new testaments original Greek the word is" KaOapos" which is indicative and " which describes a situation that actually is as opposed to a situation that might be, is wished for, or is commanded to be".
We both know that the new covenants water baptism is a cleansing as is the antitype of the old covenants cleansing of the temple with water and blood in preparation for its' occupancy by the Spirit of God.
I've heard many say that water baptism isn't essential to salvation, but according to the text apparently it is because the Holy Spirit will not inhabit an unclean temple.
Lastly, the only secondary conclusion I can come to is that Johns' baptism of repentance for the remission of sins became effective when the Lord shed His blood at Calvary.
The necessity for the gentiles to be rebaptized in the name of Jesus Christ is because having His name called over us during water baptism is the equivalent of a minister calling a bridegrooms name over a bride( Do you take John Smith to be your husband?). Now the believer takes on the name of Christ. As us being part of the bridegrooms bride we must take on His name.
@@robertnieten7259 Gentiles re-baptized? When were the Gentiles baptized in the first place?
You say "according to the text water baptism is essential for salvation because the Holy Spirit will not inhabit an unclean temple." Show me the scripture.
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
@@kyriltolbert Thanks for your comments.
I have shown you scripturally and in the original Greek that remission of sins is forgiveness of sins by the removal of the guilt from past sins. That " remission" isn't the same application of forgiveness as what the Lord accomplished on Calvary so that all may have the opportunity to be saved. According to the original language remission of sins is a cleansing of sins.
The spiritual application of the blood of Christ is what accomplishes this. In Heb.9:22 the Word says that," Without the shedding of blood there idms no remission of sin."
In Matt.26:28 Jesus said," For this is my blood of the new testament which is shed for the remission of sins."
The Lord also said, "Repentance and remission of sins should be preached among all nations beginning at Jesusalem( Luke 24:47)". That includes all nations Paul ministered in.
At Sauls'/Pauls' conversion he spoke with the Lord and was fasting and in repentance for three days when Ananias came to him and said," Why tarrieth thou?( What are you waiting for?) Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins calling on the name of the Lord"
In what since we're Pauls' sins washed away during water baptism? Ananias didn't say because your sins are washed away.
What was the reason that Ananias told Paul to call on the name of the Lord , He had been calling on the Lord for three days.
The only possible reason scripturally was to recieve the Holy Spirit. The Word " recieve" in the Greek means " to take hold of".
Lastly, there are two truths necessary in order to understand the conversion of the gentiles:
1) The Law Of Repetition is an excepted Bible backed method of understanding scriptural intent. Peters' vision confirms this and that the gentiles had been baptized by John before Peters' visit.
2) All of Pauls' letters begin with the words, "..to the saints of.." thus we are not talking about laying down foundational doctrine in order to win souls, but explaining those doctrines first mentioned in the book of Acts in a more indepth manner.
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@@robertnieten7259 You haven't provided any evidence that the gentiles were baptized by John.
We receive remission of sins upon accepting Christ as Savior. We are immediately indwelt by God's Spirit.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Thief on the cross was not baptized. He believed and was saved. We are JUSTIFIED by faith in Christ alone. For salvation to be through baptism one would think the law of repetition would be used. Instead, Christ said OVER and OVER:
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
Believe and be saved
You know what then it would’ve been useless for Jesus Christ die on the cross and rise again if water baptism could
Why do you say that? And what did Jesus Christ mean when He said “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
John 3:5 KJV What’s the water that He was talking about?
It’s the Name Jesus Christ that washes our sins away in that water, it wouldn’t be possible unless He killed sin and death in Himself. Remember what Paul said? “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
Romans 6:3 KJV then he says: “Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:”
1 Corinthians 15:36 KJV so we have to die in order to be quickened by the Holy Ghost. We die from the old man and put on the new man. Praise Jesus Christ for the blood He shed on Calvary! He defeated sin and death!
“Born of water” birth itself.
@@glenarledge1825 that’s a lie from the devil himself. Also the Lord Jesus Christ said born again, what you just said makes no sense at all with all due respect.
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation?
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony.
The conversion process is described below.
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
Why doesn’t it (in ALL baptism verses) say that it “signifies”??
Never once does the Bible say that baptism is JUST a symbol/declaration. The Bible indicates that it is the means of entrance. Acts 2:38, John 3:5, Rom 6:1-5.
Seriously? JUST A SYMBOL? I think not. It’s like everybody just twists and turns to somehow make baptism less meaningful than it is.
And I must clarify. Just getting in water, just a sacrament, will not save. It is the faith behind it that does. In that moment we declare our trust in Jesus’ DBR by also dying, being buried, and being resurrected. It is the appeal. The crying out to God. It is obeying the gospel. Of course, is there faith? Is there repentance? Those save.
1 Peter 3:21. In the broader context of scripture this baptism is always connected to salvation, the forgiveness of sins. In baptism, there is made "an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21). That makes it refer to spiritual salvation and ultimately, if faithful, a resurrection to life rather than condemnation (John 5:28-29).
However according to scriptural practice and the meaning of the Greek word "baptizo," baptism means water immersion. That's what Jesus commanded, and that is what we must do to be saved.
You’d know it’s a symbol if you understand the gospel of grace same way you’ll never find that God is Triune in the scriptures but if you understand the Godhead, you’d be able to see it.. Salvation is a gift, you don’t have to do anything to be saved, we are saved through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and that’s what baptism symbolizes.. When Christ died, we died with Him, when He resurrected, we also resurrected with Him and it’s all by faith alone not by works, just by simple faith..
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Explain this cases of salvation in the NT with your gospel of works,
The thief on the cross and what happened at Cornelius house? How were they saved without being baptized in water?
@@aidanmcmanus2752 That’s very wrong sir.. John the Baptist said he baptized with water but someone was coming who will baptize with the Holy Spirit, is the Holy Spirit water? If according to you baptizo means water baptism, how will Christ baptize someone with the Holy Spirit? How was Cornelius and his household baptized with the Holy Spirit without being immersed in water?
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Jesus never commanded water baptism my friend, you need to be careful lest you contradict the Lord of glory in your ignorance.. John was the one who baptize with water, Jesus doesn’t baptize with water, He baptize with the Spirit
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Paul said Jesus did not send him to baptize but to preach the gospel, so it’s either Paul was lying that Jesus didn’t send him to baptize when according to you Jesus commanded water baptism OR the Jesus that sent Paul to preach the gospel is different from the Jesus you’re speaking of who commanded water baptism.. Examine carefully my friend the Jesus you’ve obeyed 🙏🏽❤️
I believe that water baptism just shows picture of washing away sins but the true baptism is when you are baptized with the Holy Ghost. So no I do not believe that water baptism is a prerequisite to Salvation. But I do believe that the Holy Ghost being inside of you is a prerequisite for salvation because without him you have no washing away of a sin.
As a Presbyterian, I believe that baptism saves, not in the sense of baptismal regeneration in the Lutheran or Catholic view, nor do I believe that water baptism saves. But there is a sign and a thing signified, meaning, while water baptism doesn’t save, baptism of the Holy Spirit does. However, the thing baptism signifies is not always tied to the moment it is administered. When someone is baptized, it doesn’t mean their saved. But the promises given in baptism do save, they are salvation promises. Baptism is not something I do, but something God does.
Can you provide a reference for "baptism of the Holy Spirit" saves?
here is another question to consider: why do people make their appeal to God to be saved without the water: "unless a man is born of water and spirit he can not enter into the Kingdom of God.
Water refers to the first birth
@@liamballard7519 why, when Yeshua was puzzled by nicodemus' response to the physical as Jesus was referring to the spiritual? from the context of the passage, we need a reason to take what Yeshua said out of context: what is the reason?
He said BORN of water and of spirit now if he meant baptized in water don't you think he would have said that?@@jd-gw4gr
Then why did he say born again??
He was not referring to his birth from his mother. “Born of water and the spirit “. That is one baptism not two separate baptisms, also baptism is an immersion, one going in and out of.
@@user-he6bz8yh8d paul tells us that there is one faith one hope one baptism Amen
Still on the fence.
If anybody tells you that you don’t need to be baptized as a part of salvation, they’re going against the Bible just so you know. We must be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Not as a requirement for salvation though. Baptism is a part of being saved. Since we want to follow the Lord’s commands and be obedient. Baptism is comparable to Romans 12:1 thereby giving our bodies as a living sacrifice as our reasonable service. We are baptized as part of our reasonable service. Not as a requirement for salvation. But it is no use trying to explain this to those who think baptism saves since most who believe baptism saves also believe that one can lose their salvation as well. And THAT. is a bigger issue. No we cannot lose our salvation. Perhaps one was not truly saved in the first place. !
@@ministryofthewayofYehoshua so theif on the cross? death bed decisions for people? whats your reaction to that?
@@taylorransen7401 hello thank you for your question. Thief on the cross was under the old covenant, he died believing on the promise. The baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for remission of sins and also what is written in Romans 6. People on there death bed that have not been baptized have already made their decision if you’re honest with yourself. They waited until they knew that they would die to be baptized, you must Repent + be baptized+ filled with the Holy Ghost. Someone waiting until they’re on their death bed doesn’t sound like they have a heart of repentance.
@@jeffcarlson3269 that’s simply not true, I don’t believe that someone can lose their salvation but believe the Bible when it says it’s a part of salvation. How else is the old man supposed to die? It can’t be done from just turning from sin which is Repentance! You must be buried with Christ for the old man to die, Romans 6:3
Scripture nowhere says baptism is a "symbol" or "picture" or "signifies" or is an "identification," etc, etc. Scripture does say baptism does several things which anyone can look up but apparently are blind to.
1 Peter 3:21. In the broader context of scripture this baptism is always connected to salvation, the forgiveness of sins. In baptism, there is made "an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21). That makes it refer to spiritual salvation and ultimately, if faithful, a resurrection to life rather than condemnation (John 5:28-29).
However according to scriptural practice and the meaning of the Greek word "baptizo," baptism means water immersion. That's what Jesus commanded, and that is what we must do to be saved.
@@aidanmcmanus2752 I agree with your conclusions but let me give you a different interpretation I wrote for 1 Pet 3:21: 1 Peter 3:21 "...baptism, which now saves you…by the resurrection of Jesus Christ." Rom 6 and Col 2:12 say that baptism "immerses" you into Jesus' resurrection which is the concept Peter has limited his discussion to here in 1 Peter 3:21. And to be "resurrected with Christ" is another way of saying "regenerated" or “born again” - and this occurs in baptism as cited previously. A regenerated person is going to live a righteous life which is attended by a good conscience as Peter mentions here and which will "testify" to God in the final judgement (Rom 2:6-16). Further, baptism washes away past sins (Acts 2:38, 22:16) which also provides for a clean conscience. So, we have complete provision for our conscience - both past sins committed as well as for the future by making possible the living of an obedient life going forward through a new birth patterned after God’s righteous character (Eph 4:24). Paul covers the whole spectrum of what baptism does; saving a person from the power of sin and regeneration to a new, righteous, life while Peter here focuses on the latter part; how baptism "births" a righteous person which God will deliver into His eternal kingdom just like Jesus was admitted to God's presence, after His resurrection as Peter reminds us here, because He, like Noah, was righteous (John 16:10).
Through Baptism we are justified. God sanctifies. That is what Peter is saying. We present ourselves as a holy and acceptable sacrifice. Without the washing away of sins, are souls are just as dirty. In other words, God looks at us directly and not through Christ. And since man cannot save himself then the man/woman that is baptized is destined for Hell.
Secondly, Christ commanded us to be baptized for the remission of our sins in Acts 2:38.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
We are justified by faith in Jesus Christ. You say we can't save ourselves, but then you say we must save ourselves by being baptized?
@@kyriltolbert Philippians 2: 12So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13for it is God who is at work in you, both to [j]desire and to work for His good pleasure. This verse says that I am to work out my salvation. Does this mean I don't need faith or obedience?
As you can plainly see is that Paul uses the word "work" (work out your own salvation.)" The work that one does is to keep Christ's commands, and that includes baptism. It was stated in Matthew, Mark, and Acts.
What the Bible is saying is that if you have faith in Jesus Christ as being the Son of God, the key to salvation then you need to obey His commands. Jesus's command was to believe, confessing in being a sinner, repent, and be baptized. Those are His words not mine.
If Christ is God's gift to us, then what is Christ's gift us?
I will pray for you, as well.
@@jamesstrohl2016 Your work doesn't save you. You aren't justified by your works. In fact, Paul says in Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
To him that does NO work, he is justified that believes on Jesus Christ.
Works are EVIDENCE of justification. That is what James is talking about in James 2. But to say, as you said, that we are "justified by baptism," is completely contrary to everything Paul wrote
@@kyriltolbert So, you are ignoring Philippian's? The point is that you are cherry picking verses.
Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death,
Paul, by his own words, is saying that baptism is necessary. He baptized Crispus, Gaius and few more. He also didn't say baptism wasn't necessary. On the contrary his baptizing of those and others point differently. It is safe to say that Paul was baptized for remission of sins, and he says that in Acts 22: 15For you will be a witness for Him to all people of what you have seen and heard. 16Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins by calling on His name.’
Regardless, the Bible doesn't contradict itself. Christ, the very one that all Christians say they follow, said that baptism was necessary.
I will ask you again. Did Christ say that going through Him to the Father was a free gift?
Please give me the scripture where Paul says baptism wasn't necessary?
@@jamesstrohl2016 Philippians 2:12 is not talking about working to earn your salvation. That would contradict:
Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Romans 11:5-6 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Yes, salvation is a free gift. You don't work to earn it. Baptism is important, but it isn't necessary for salvation. I believe everyone should be baptized, but if you include baptism into justification, Paul says:
Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Short answer = NO.
Baptism of the Holy Spirit... yes. Water baptism. No.
You should still be baptized in water tho
Nobody who believes that baptism is more than just an "outward sign of an inward grace" is focused on scrubbing their skin with Dove soap while they're being baptized. They're focused on trusting God to raise them from spiritual death because of and through the death, burial. and resurrection of Jesus.
So, the efficacy of baptism is Christ and faith in Him, rather than just a normal bath on a normal day, but the fact remains that real baptism is in water, and Peter says real baptism SAVES you.
Romans 6:1-6 --- dying with Christ, being buried with Him, and being raised with him to new life through baptism.
Colossians 2:11-12 --A spiritual circumsicion of the heart done by God through faith at baptism
Galatians 3:36 "sons of God through faith, FOR as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ."
You dont have to, and you should not seperate faith and baptism.
Baptism is connected to repentence, calling on the name of the Lord, and of course faith.
"And now, why do you wait? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord!" Said to Saul
Jesus said to the man on the cross next to him "today you will be with me in paradise". (Luke Chapter 23 Verse 43). Had this man been water baptized???
Baptism happens because someone has been saved. Baptism doesn't save.
The forthcoming coronation will not make Charles the King. Charles became the King when his mother - Queen Elizabeth the Second - died. The coronation is happening because Charles is now the King.
A coronation for William or George would be nonsense as neither of them are King.
1st Peter 3:21 Baptism does save you. Not as removal from dirt from the flesh but an appeal to God for a good conscience. It is next to the final step of obedience.
The thief on the cross was saved because Christ having all the authority on Earth at that time had the power to take the thief with Him to Paradise. Also, the Church Age had not come into fruition yet. It would be fifty days later.
you answered your own question brother, water baptism is a public declaration of faith after one is saved. It's an appeal to God for good conscience as you stated yourself. IF baptism saves you why did Jesus need to die on the cross? People think way to hard about this, works come after salvation not for it.@@jamesstrohl2016
Friendship is a lie.
Oof
@@kirjian Oof?
@Plzhlp. an account called "please help" says that friendship is a lie is oof
What help do you need? :)
@@kirjian being Perfect in order to fit in with church going Christians.
@Plzhlp. who said you needed to be perfect? Or that Christians are perfect?
Baptism in water , in the Name of Jesus is essential (not optional) for salvation! You must be baptized in the Name of Jesus!! Do not fall for this false doctrine!
He’s not saying it’s not necessary, he’s arguing at which point salvation is given in a believer. Before or after baptism, because to be baptized you must have faith prior to
@@ethanpeterson8275 Salvation comes when one obeys The Gospel. And we know The Gospel is the death (repentance), burial (baptism in Jesus Name) , and the resurrection (the infilling of The Holy Ghost) . I don’t understand how their is even an argument over this. Salvation is not complete until you obey the “whole” Gospel.
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I find it odd that you only use 2 verses to determine your doctrine. 1: Baptism is NOT a requirement for Salvation. John 3:36 " He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." KJV- Believing is required, not Baptism. John 5:24 "“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” -KJV- Hearing and believing, not Baptism. Baptism is actually a 'work' on our part. Jesus does it all. John 6:47 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.” -KJV- Again, Baptism is NOT Salvific. Was the thief on the cross baptized? Enoch that walked with God? Elijah? No? John 3:15 “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.” -KJV- John 3:18 “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” -KJV- Once again, BELIEVE ! Acts 16:31 “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” -KJV- BELIEVE.
I could go on and on. People, don't take my word for it, actually pick up your Bible and do your own research. Never rely on one verse to declare a doctrine.
Yes John piper believes we are saved by faith alone
The second "believe" in John 3:36 should be translated "obey." It is obedient faith that saves. Obedience to Christ leads first to baptism. If you read the scriptures that explain what baptism does (Rom 6, Col 2:11,12, Gal 3:26,27, 1 Pet 3:21) and take them literally you might see that baptism is necessary to receive salvation. By salvation, I mean deliverance from slavery to sin plus re-birth into a righteous life.
@@bobthrasher8226 Jesus is the vine all who are in him will bear true fruit naturally but the fruit itself doesn't save its being in Christ. Obedience is a byproduct not a means to win God's grace/approval. But if you don't obey that means you're of the Devil and or the more probable cause is that your not spiritually mature/sanctified and that's a process of life
@@dittoman1995 ...and guess how you get "into Christ" and, hence, onto the vine? You're "baptized into Christ." - Rom 6:3, Gal 3:27 ...if, as I said, you take those passages literally.
@@bobthrasher8226Nope he chose us.
Ephesians 1:5-6 he[a] predestined us for adoption to sonship[b] through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will- 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves.
Baptism is a seal/confirmation that an obedient child will partake in. In part due to the fact people who were baptized as babies often grow up wanting to do nothing with God and show signs of being unregenerate despite having the Holy Spirit in baptism