MiSTer FPGA DE 10 - Video Presets! Tons of new CRT Filters for MiSTer! Get that CRT Look!
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2022
- While playing MiSTer FPGA cores on a CRT is an amazing experience...not everyone is hardcore (dumb) enough to keep a bunch of large CRT tv's around their house to do it! So here is the next best thing! All the Video Presets that have come to MiSTer! Shadow Masks! Scanlines! Composite filters! The retro gaming works!
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I asked, you answered...and I try to listen :) Of all the requests for new content on the channel one of the most frequently asked for videos is a series on the Terasic DE-10 Nano MiSTer FPGA hardware...so here it is! Retro gaming goodness.
On this episode of our MiSTer series we are going to be talking about the MiSTer video filters...specifically all the new presets that have been added in to the platform itself. Before you had to combine different filters in different areas to get that CRT look...but now some awesome people (including TrashUncle...the King of Filters!) have combined them together into video presets you can activate with the push of a button!
So get some of that retrogaming goodness on MiSTer on your LCD tv!
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Great video as always! The update lets you use the buttons you mapped for L and R without having to go into the filter settings to fine tune it to your liking.
I will mention that in the March news video!
i like how they snuck in a little shortcut in a recent update. now if you go to the menu and highlight the shadowmask or the filter, using L or R will cycle the options so you don't have to select them one at a time. its so much faster to find the right brightness settings using the L and R buttons.
Yes that is a nice new touch since I finished this
Been waiting for a video like this! Thanks VGE
Happy to do it! Hope you enjoyed :)
I absolutely love the way these can be fine tuned. It's a bit overwhelming at first since there's so many settings to adjust but once you get it figured out, it's wonderful. I've especially appreciated it on the PS1 core. I normally like my scanlines defined and and a sharp picture but the PS1 just looks amazing to me with less scanlines and more blur to smooth out the rough pixels. And these new global settings for filters have made it possible to apply them to arcade cores that never implemented the prior version. No shadow masks for them but it's great to have the extra options!
Yes it’s nice to have more options. I feel that some games work best filtered and others I want the raw output
That is amazing! They all look great. Personally, I've grown fond of a DS filter on a lot of retro consoles, and the Gameboys most of all, when trying my friend's MiSTer :)
Yes the best part is there are so many options
I'm glad you emphasised getting it to look good for _you_. That is all that matters. I used to try to get filters in Mame, Reshade or Retroarch to be 'accurate' but I ended up spending all my time fiddling with that and not playing. All I want now is interpolation to fix scaling shimmer, a shader to soften, but not blur, the pixels (which can itself provide the interpolation) and basic scanlines, usually without a shadow mask. It looks nice and it's so simple I can't get lost dialling it in.
Yes when it comes to these filters the only right answer is what the end user thinks looks good to them...which is fun :)
Nice video. Shaders/filters are awesome I can spend hours messing around with them
Too many hours lol
Very helpful video, and awesome how much choice there is filter wise :-)
Yes there are TONS of options
What works the best across the board for me is the pvm preset. double the sharpness on the horizontal filter, double the brightness on the vertical, and leaving shadow mask at pvm.
Looking forward to your adaptive scan lines video as others have already mentioned.
I’ll give that pvm look a shot. I was all for the 31kHz CRT myself
I like using Faded Tube preset with Genesis core. It helps simulate the fake transparency effect and all the other "imperfections" of a CRT.
I’ll check that one out
my favorite filter is on the GBA core. it's the LCD one that puts a tiny white line between each pixel on a 4k TV. it does a great job breaking up the chunky pixels on my 55" set and gives it its own look, like a super advanced snes. i'm playing through the metroid games on there right now, great experience! I prefer it even over my CRT with component since the original gba was LCD in the first place.
Yes the GBA filters are nice for sure
Looking forward to the adaptive filters on MiSTer!
I started to do a video on them but it’s still a bit WIP so I put it off till it’s ready for “prime time” as I like to show finished items I know 99% of viewers will be able to enjoy
Any idea why the video filters would be affecting the 240p analog video output to a CRT, even with the VGA scaler and scandoubler disabled? The 5x vertical crop is happening to the CRT image too, super confused!
Hmmmm. Unsure
I strated to appreciate filters only after a bit. Using integer scaling gives the best results if you are on a 1080p monitor. I feel like the non integer scaling at 1080p has visible artifacts
Yeah filters 100% need integer scaling to look good. I hope they introduce 5x scaling to the PSX and Jotego cores for that reason.
I bet they will at some point
this is probably a bit much to ask, but do you think there might eventually be some kind of bloom simulation? I feel like that slight warping of the image based on the brightness levels is something that gives CRTs their look. Its usually subtle but im sure that would also be something you could dial in. Also just in general having the image be curved might be interesting.
I’m sure everything will happen eventually. I mean if it exists on real hardware someone will attempt it on MisTer
Coming soon is adaptive scanlines which have thinner scanlines in bright areas. This helps with the brightness. Turning down the sharpness filter also helps complete the look. It's not quite "bloom" but it's getting much closer.
@@JasonZnack That sounds really cool
Yes I was planning on an adaptive scanlines video. I tested but it was still WIP so I decided to hold off on it for a minute
Yes it’ll be fun to have them
Really appreciate this guide, as well as the fact that you're using SMW to test it all out. That's the same game I use for this as well!
It’s a solid game to test as basically EVERYONE knows what it looks like
hello, according to you today which is the best filter and the best settings to make the most of an LCD OR MONITOR and make it look as much as possible a CRT effect with Scalin thanks for your reply
I prefer the PVM scanline filter or the VGA mask personally
Adaptive scanlines will change it once again :)
Yes I will do a video on them once they are more established...still not primetime ready
All of the presets suddenly disappeared? Did they get deleted on main? How can I get those back?
They have been nested in diff menus I believe
If I’m already using a vga monitor does the “vga monitor” filter really do anything?
Nothing really at all
@@VideoGameEsoterica lol! I just tried it and it looks exactly the same.
I had a feeling lol
So guys every week I’m only running the update all script and every so often the blisster ports update as I have a blisster version.
I got my device just before Xmas, I’m just wondering if there’s any other housekeeping I should be doing on it?
It’s all working fine and really loving it but just was curious if there was something (other than Saturn & psx which I’m waiting for stable releases) I’m missing or should be doing/upgrading other than gaming!😁👍
No that about covers it!
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I think it might be the video compression on RUclips being not kind to scanline effects but, while these presets look better than the average fake scanlines we were getting until a few years ago on emulators and the likes, at the end of the day they look what they are, namely filters. Also, I can't see any significant difference between VGA monitor preset on and off. Of course I don't blame you, as demonstrating these things on RUclips is pretty much not viable due to compression, I think. Personally on modern panels I prefer an unfiltered pixellated look and that's all. I'll be missing a lot the glow, imperfect geometry and composite artifacts of my trusty CRT when it will eventually die, but life will go on. Oh well. And yes, despite having easily access to all sorts of RGB cables, I think composite has a certain crappy charm I personally appreciate.
Yes compression is a pain. If you watch it on a large tv it’s more apparently
Try interpolation filter plus slotstinny shadowmask.
I will give it a try!
What's the Wonderboy like game starting at 8:35? Thanks!
New Adventure Island on the PC Engine
@@VideoGameEsoterica thank you!
Happy to :)
This is great but... we need some clever people to make a kickstarter... a CRT built with new components. We need that CRT shape and glow, not necessarily the long glass tube though
That would be the dream
Link to buy?
MiSTer? Just the board or?
Loved messing around with these settings.. until I went and got my old crt! And I’m never looking back!
Until your old CRT breaks!
@@StarshipGhostit’s all good I got a backup son ..
@@StarshipGhost also Zero input lag is the only way to play ..
haha I mean a real CRT still cannot be beaten
this is true
"You'll be changing this filter game-by-game". Don't be ridiculous.
I mean I don't think that's ridiculous at all
Terrible, Get a CRT guys :)
LOL not everyone has the space. What about the retro gamers living in studio apartments in big cities? I mean we gotta include everyone :)
People had space for CRTs for half a century.
Real estate used to be cheaper too lol
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