I bought a MiSTer 3 years ago after I started looking into RGB modding my original consoles and getting ROM carts and seeing how expensive it was going to be. The MiSTer is a great deal and it's been my primary gaming device ever since. I've gotten to play a lot of classics I missed growing up. Software emulation never felt right to me.
I’m with you on that one. I love my pc but honestly I think my mister gets way more play time. The investment has been incredible with each of the cores that have been released on it. The CPS 1 and 2 cores then the cave shooters on top of all the consoles. It a project that just keeps blowing my mind with out blowing my wallet.
Thanks for your continued coverage of MiSTer. After getting one many years ago, I still use your videos to show new friends how awesome it is and how it continues to get better. I appreciate updated recaps like this every time you do them. Hope your holidays went well!
Best gaming purchase I’ve made in a very long time…love how I can just connect it onto any modern display and it looks fantastic and then when the mood takes easily hook it up to one of my vintage consumer CRTs for the authentic experience
@@VideoGameEsoterica for someone who just wants to experience all the games and isn’t as hardcore like us needing all the OG hardware it’s the perfect solution
Not only can original hardware be expensive when you factor in getting quality connection cables, original controllers, power supplies, accessories, modifications and paying a tech to maintain or restore your consoles to working condition, they were also not necessarily made to last over such long time periods. After all, these devices are consumer electronics specifically made to the lowest possible and most affordable price points up to about 40 years ago, where as the DE-10 nano, as far as I understand, is made with industrial applications in mind, being made to be both very robust and able to withstand high temperatures without active cooling requirements. Even back when these consoles where new I still remember friends having issues with their PS1 disc lasers failing, or a PS2 eating a disc and not wanting to open the disc drive anymore, or other hardware failures requiring repairs or even entire console replacements. It also becomes even more costly if you want to play both PAL and NTSC region games and wanting them to run at their correct clock frequency, which would only be possible by owning and playing the PAL and NTSC games on their same region consoles, with space then also becoming a concern if you want to own a wider range of various consoles. As time goes on I hope that more people will come to understand the tremendous value of FPGA emulation, as we will eventually reach a point where original consoles might not be readily available in working condition anymore, where devices such as the Mister and the Analogue products do an amazing job at faithfully preserving a range of various different console and arcade systems while adding additional features and much extended flexibility.
@@gamesandplanes3984bro, I would LOVE to own the originals but looking at the prices now, I’m having second thoughts. I don’t need every Game and going around thrifting is a lot of fun but it takes time. You also need place to store the retro stuff.
Delighted to have my MiSTer. 2 other great features. Controller accessibility, if its got USB 99% will work. Dualsense for SNES? M30 for N64, whatever you like or need for comfort. Also region handling, can get RGB SCART output onto EU TV and play every NTSC console no problem.
MiSTer is the only way to go these days. It is the absolute best in terms of cost, convenience, and capabilities. My only gripe as a newcomer to the FPGA world is I wish the UI/UX was better. Looking forward to the MARS for that reason. I think it will be what makes FPGA gaming truly mainstream. But my MiSTer will always have a place in my house!
I love my Mister. I had a stack system and later upgraded to the Mister multisystem from Haber. The development of Saturn, PSX and N64 cores have taken this way past what I wanted from the system. My original reason for the mister was for the SNES and Amiga cores, now I have NeoGeo, pc engine, nes, sega cd and 32x. All systems I wanted as a kid but could never afford. As you said in your video though that is just scratching the surface.
I love my mister because I don't really need to fiddle with it. Emulators exist and retroarch is awesome but it still requires a ton of constant fiddling and if you want to output a modern computer to a CRT, that's a whole other can of worms. With Mister, once the initial set up is done all you need to do it run update all every week or so and enjoy. It's also a breeze to run into a CRT, just grab the right cable, toggle a few settings and your set. It's not free but your getting 99.99% of the original hardware experience for a fraction of the cost of original hardware. Heck, if you don't spend the money to mod your original hardware then the mister is probably going to be delivering a better visual experience because most consoles use composite output to a CRT.
Yes the “fiddle factor” is diminished on MiSTer. And I use a metric TON of software emulators / do videos on them. 10x the questions on those videos then MiSTer setup vids
You push a button. It does the rest. It’s no diff than any console or system ever. RetroArch? Update weekly. PS5? Updates near weekly. It’s just “press update and wait five min”
@@VideoGameEsoterica Yes, the cores bit is a significant thing and for a lot of us, the cores we have are plenty good. They'd likely need to have cores to cover more recent consoles to justify people upgrading from what they've got.
I was ready to buy an N64 right before Robert announced his plans for the core. Very glad I didn't. Get a MiSTer. Save the original hardware for the collectors/preservation.
There are possible polyphony issues with sound effects in Starfox 64 (ring acquisition sound effect) and Mario Kart 64 (invincibility sound effect). I'm testing my real N64 against a friend's MiSTer. Despite that, the MiSTer is VERY impressive! The way textures render seems to be 1:1 from what I can tell. I'll be getting one for sure. Thanks for the channel updates with this device!!
I have had an analog version of the Mister for a few years now, but I have only ever had to use the HDMI out. I should have just went with digital from the beginning as now I want to upgrade to dual ram to future proof my Mister and if I did it from the start I would have saved a few bucks.
Bought one last year because of your videos. Have one hooked up to a CRT via component. The ultimate retro gaming machine! Now I just have to find a 2nd CRT for all the TaTe arcade cores.
I had a mister since 2018 and for console cores it's great. However, for a while I have been unhappy with a lot of the classic arcade cores. I know defender and Robotron cores are poor because I have the original boards and the Williams jrok boards. For Christmas I got a bitkit 2 which concentrates on classic arcade games accurately. It's excellent and something you may want to do a review on?
Ease of use is higher on MiSTer. Keeping boards and superguns around to run arcade game boards is cumbersome and annoying. Trust me…I’d know. Gets you playing quicker with no setup on MiSTer. Accuracy is very close to real boards if not 1:1 on some cores
@@VideoGameEsoterica I can only speak from my own experience using original hardware and other FPGA solutions but defender, robotron2084 and galaxian are bloody awful on mister. The sound is wrong, there is latency and the gameplay isn't correct.They are no better than mame .
I've seen people show pictures of it but never with anything for reference so I assumed it was a massive brick of circuitry. Holy crap that thing could fit in my pocket!!
The MiSTer is without a doubt one of the best electronic things I have bought in my life. I bought half a year ago and it is absolutely fantastic and worth every cent. I have it hooked up to my 83 inch OLED and it looks stunning. I am a person who also cares a great deal about audio quality so I use the SPDIF output on my MiSTER and got it connected to my Technics SACD player which also has an SPDIF input. The internal DAC is truly amazing and the sound coming out of the MiSTer is perfect. I think video is just as important as audio.
So is it true that Misters adds at least 16ms/1 frame of lag when using it's HDMI port, and then there's another 10ms coming from your OLED TV? That's at least 26ms of lag total using wired controllers...Seems like it's only worth using MiSTer on a SDTV CRT via composite or component as it's analogue port is lag-free and then there's zero lag coming from the CRT. If i'm going to play retro games on a 43" QD-LED, i'm probably better off sticking with lag-free FPGA consoles and using EverDrives.
Absolutely love my MiSTer! 😍 With a fully loaded 1TB SD Card along with my MT32-Pi and tty2oled, I'm in retro heaven and use my MiSTer system more than all my previous and current gen consoles all put together! 😎 I love my MiSTer system that much that I own three of them! 😅
Old and I should do another but : MiSTer MT-32 Pi MIDI Build and Tutorial - MIDI on MiSTer FPGA - Sharp X68000 and AO486 ruclips.net/video/KA8iP4fqDo8/видео.html
As someone who hangs around the outskirts of this community and reaps the benefits after people explain it to me, I gotta say I think their marketing is working very well because it got to this channel and now I know about it.
@@VideoGameEsoterica ha god dammit I was commenting on the mars project video after it finished, and didn’t realize it had auto started this one right before I pushed the comment button 😑😑😑. Leave me alone!!!
I've tried several emulation setups (Pi, Odroid, Pandora's Boxes and MAME PC's) and nothing compares to Mister for retro gaming. Best bit of tech I've ever bought!
Nah, a PC with a proper emulation setup is way superior to any Pandora, Pi and android setup. These are all the bottom of the barrel of software emulation.
I love you Mister everyone should give it a chance. I’m building my fourth one this year. however, since I bought my Mr. with games preloaded on an sd chip, I want to learn how to program the Mr. and load games from my library and from developers as well. Do you have any videos of how to download games from developers? If you don’t, I hope you can make one soon in the future. No rush. Thanks VGE
@@VideoGameEsoterica , when you get a chance can you send me a link, I greatly would appreciate that VGE. You and pixel cherry ninja are my favorite channels of 2023 and so far 2024.🤙
@@VideoGameEsoterica sorry to bother you one more time, but do you know the title of the video? And I know how you feel about your phone. My phone has been acting up too.
I have my OG Mister I got years ago for $110. Now I want a second and the Mister Pi and Qmtech are always sold out. Also really want a portable. Lets get it done.
I have the GunCom 3 but currently my new 55” QLED is too thin for the sensors so I have to figure something out. Also need to remount the sensor bars for the Wii and Wii U. Also, the the mount I had for my Xbox 360 camera and PS3 camera won’t fit on this TV. Only thing that wants to sit up there is the PlayStation 4 camera.
I'm going to be buying one tomorrow :) I'm making a fully loaded model with a metal case, passive cooling with analogue and digital out :) I also did what you said and got the 128mb of ram Great video :)
Where are you shopping for RGB N64s? I got one for ~$130 this past year. It plays all my original cartridges, which my MiSTer does not, but certainly the FPGA route is great too.
While it is absolutely correct that the Mister is cheap compared to RGB modded original hardware, it should also be said that software emulation (e.g. via a raspberryPi) is the cheapest and still a very good way of playing old games. Yes, if you are an enthusiast and want to have the best experience, surely the Mister is the way to go, but for the sake of giving a complete and transparent picture, this point should not go unnoticed. Maybe not relevant for the enthusiast subscribers of this channel, but in case for somebody new doing his research and watching the vid ;-)
This is a very good video for newcomers to Mister ecosystem, however one thing I think you forgot to mention why one would choose a more expensive Mister instead of say a Raspberry Pi. Anyway, looking forward for new content as always.
@@VideoGameEsoterica I’m not a big ps1/n64 guy so that’s fine. I love Saturn though but for that I already own a Saturn with a satiator so I’m good for now.
Maybe I don't understand the MISTer but why choose this expensive option over just emulating on a regular computer/laptop that you probably already have?
I bought a de-10 Nano for about $125 off Amazon during the pandemic which wasn't that long ago so it makes me sick how much the prices of these have gone up. Would I buy one today at the current prices if I didn't have one? The answer is yes of course. However what I can't do anymore is buy one as gifts.. If it was still about $240 total for everything then it would be something possible. For $500+ now though, it's just too much.
That face when the "junk" you bought for university course work turns out to be more useful to all the emulation devices you bought since graduating ... 2024 retro gaming here I come.
OK maybe I didn't understand the video, you do talk fast, but I'm left wondering, what about this justifies spending soo much money instead of just emulating? It seems you'd have to spend quite a bit just for retro systems. Those of which can be emulated with ease on pc or even your phone
I'm sure this will sound incredibly noobish, but in order to play the retro games on a MiSTer, do you just have to find the "roms" or can you collect the actual physical copies of games? I've recently gotten a RetroUSB AVS and started collecting NES carts. I'd love to get into Genesis/32x/Sega CD, and SNES, but part of what I'm loving is finding the real carts. Thanks for looking!
@@VideoGameEsoterica thanks for the super quick response! I did want an Everdrive as well, but by the time I’d get a Genesis, SNES and Everdrives, I’d be over the price of a MiSTer. I think one of these is in my near future 👍🏻
"a hundred and change arcade cores"? I don't know how many rbf files there are (a "core"), but so far as how many arcade games are available, after a first/fresh update_all... there are well over 1,000. I haven't counted recently but I think it might be approaching 1,400.
Rather than spend the $$$ on another MISTer, get a TATE set-up. TCL TV's can be rotated any direction without damage. My 50'' TV cost $350 new and delivered. The stand cost $40, the fitting cost $80.
Can you use a lightgun with a vga monitor via mister? Also what are the savestates like? I'm told they're quite limited in number but that was a year or so ago and I'll need loads for playing shmups
You can use a vga monitor if you like double to 31kHz but some light guns may still get a little angry about it in my experience. Save states are generally NOT in cores. A few have them
Here's a question.. anyone know how much lag am I'm getting if I hook my MiSter up HDMI to my PC capture card (PCI) and play off of OBS?? I dont have a CRT tv or anything. Im curious if/how much lag I'm getting tho playing like this.
I’ve debated on getting a second mister, I have the analogue single ram one. Do you think my second one should be digital dual ram version? Or another analogue
Around 3 years ago I bought the analog version and only ever use HDMI. If I know then what I know now I just would have went digital with dual ram. Now I am planning on converting to dual ram. If you are only ever going to use HDMI I would say go dual ram as it's going to be more and more necessary for some of the upcoming cores.
I think I’ll go digital dual ram this time. I do use my analog out when I want to play on a CRT but if I want to do that I can just use my analog mister, plus it sounds like the dual ram may be utilized more in the future although right now it’s not fully needed yet, thanks for the tips
No need to convince me! My MiSTer is the best investment I've ever made in retro gaming in my entire life. It has been a game changer for me and I spend more time with my MiSTer these days than any other gaming device.
I managed to get a de10 nano for free. Bought the rest from mister addons. Also recomend upgrading the micro sd card. The stock one that comes with the nano isnt very good.
@@VideoGameEsoterica There are ways. But yeah not as simple as the mister. Beside that you need to configure stuff to have an experience like on the mister with software emulators.
If you're out there and you're on the fence about this, get it. I'm someone who does not splurge on personal items, and this was so worth it. It continues to be more worth it by the day, as people keep releasing cores. ❤
I love my De10-Nano. It's a shame to live in an almost communist country like Brazil. To buy it now we have to pay up to 60% of the price + shipping. Very expensive, and almost impossible for those earning minimum wage.
Only a second? Pft, let's get a third. Because I don't regret my poor decisions enough. ಠ_ಠ Oh yeah and then I got two ironclad boards because WHY NOT. >__< Granted that's because the latest revision massively improved their MT32 pi integration. But still. T_T
Nice video. But one thing you haven't told ist that all of this is piracy except you own all the boards, games etc... So yeah it's cheaper but the only real legal way to play all this stuff that isn't ported to another current platform, is to buy those expensive cartridges or arcade boards, etc...
@@VideoGameEsoterica Don't get me wrong. It's not about yourself. I just wanted to mention it. Pirating old stuff that isn't available at an affordable price for ordinary mortals is a necessary evil for me.
One for my studio, one for my PVM and one for dual ram testing / my television in my living room. But I use them for the channel a ton so I need redundancy
MiSTer is my stop. N64 is my nostalgia limit and desires and anything newer than that is meh to me. Once Robert Peip developed the N64 core, buying a MiSTer was a done deal.
Not to rain on your fpga purist retro parade, but failing to mention that you can download retro arch on your android smartphone for free is a marketing gimmick if you can even tell the difference between that and real hardware.
There are no 64 megabyte Neo Geo games. They are megabits which 1/8 of a megabyte. All old consoles measures carts in megabits. E.g. SF2 on the SNES was 16 megabits. I.e. 2 megabytes.
I wonder if this guy is somehow sponsored by MiSTer? Not one price comparison to PC emulation. I have been emulated ROMS since the late 90s on my Athlon 600-1.4 system and emulation on modern powerful (non ARM) cores is even more impresive. Someone who is tech savvy should NEVER have to spend a dollar on emulation unless if they want a plug and play sytem ready to go with minimal effort. Word of advice- the WWW and torrent software are your friend and ARM rocks for Chromebooks...
Very expensive elitist emulator, lacking lots of quality of life things of software emulators... But I'm kind of an elitist in this kind of things, for now I will stick to real hardware and software emulation, but I will keep watching the development of hardware emulation
So happy I got my MiSTer setup 5 years ago when it was still pretty cheap. That said, I wouldn't hesitate buying it at today's prices if I had to.
Yes for what it does it should be considered a steal
well you at least had to upgrade your SDRAM to the 2.9 revision to have the Saturn core working ....😋
Support on 2.5 modules is a lot better now
@@chryoko I have not had any issues with the Saturn core so far (I have the 2.5 SDRAM revision), but I've only tried a 1/2 dozen games so far.
I was thinking about upgrading from v2.5 to v3.0, but is it possible that saturn games will be more compatible with v2.5?
I bought a MiSTer 3 years ago after I started looking into RGB modding my original consoles and getting ROM carts and seeing how expensive it was going to be. The MiSTer is a great deal and it's been my primary gaming device ever since. I've gotten to play a lot of classics I missed growing up. Software emulation never felt right to me.
Yes it eliminates all the need to mod all your consoles and acquire flash carts or ODEs
I built one a few months ago so it wasn't exactly cheap, but it was still soooo worth it. It might even be my favourite tech purchase ever.
It’s seriously insane how much it does
I’m with you on that one. I love my pc but honestly I think my mister gets way more play time. The investment has been incredible with each of the cores that have been released on it. The CPS 1 and 2 cores then the cave shooters on top of all the consoles. It a project that just keeps blowing my mind with out blowing my wallet.
Every new core makes the investment that much better too. New core vid today at 4 cst too
Wow, you're a game thief. Congrats.
🤣 have you even seen my collection in my videos. Yeah. Big thief
Thanks for your continued coverage of MiSTer. After getting one many years ago, I still use your videos to show new friends how awesome it is and how it continues to get better. I appreciate updated recaps like this every time you do them.
Hope your holidays went well!
Holidays went great. Hope your went well too!
Best gaming purchase I’ve made in a very long time…love how I can just connect it onto any modern display and it looks fantastic and then when the mood takes easily hook it up to one of my vintage consumer CRTs for the authentic experience
Yes it’s extremely versatile in regards to how it can be used
@@VideoGameEsoterica for someone who just wants to experience all the games and isn’t as hardcore like us needing all the OG hardware it’s the perfect solution
I find myself using my real hardware much less in the last three years because of MiSTer
Not only can original hardware be expensive when you factor in getting quality connection cables, original controllers, power supplies, accessories, modifications and paying a tech to maintain or restore your consoles to working condition, they were also not necessarily made to last over such long time periods. After all, these devices are consumer electronics specifically made to the lowest possible and most affordable price points up to about 40 years ago, where as the DE-10 nano, as far as I understand, is made with industrial applications in mind, being made to be both very robust and able to withstand high temperatures without active cooling requirements.
Even back when these consoles where new I still remember friends having issues with their PS1 disc lasers failing, or a PS2 eating a disc and not wanting to open the disc drive anymore, or other hardware failures requiring repairs or even entire console replacements.
It also becomes even more costly if you want to play both PAL and NTSC region games and wanting them to run at their correct clock frequency, which would only be possible by owning and playing the PAL and NTSC games on their same region consoles, with space then also becoming a concern if you want to own a wider range of various consoles.
As time goes on I hope that more people will come to understand the tremendous value of FPGA emulation, as we will eventually reach a point where original consoles might not be readily available in working condition anymore, where devices such as the Mister and the Analogue products do an amazing job at faithfully preserving a range of various different console and arcade systems while adding additional features and much extended flexibility.
Yes this is as important on the preservation side as it is the fun and saving money side. Best of both worlds
Lol. Dude. That's a long-winded way of saying "I steal video games, and will never own the originals".
Plenty of us own the originals. I’m surrounded by them
@@gamesandplanes3984copying isn't theft :)
@@gamesandplanes3984bro, I would LOVE to own the originals but looking at the prices now, I’m having second thoughts. I don’t need every Game and going around thrifting is a lot of fun but it takes time. You also need place to store the retro stuff.
Delighted to have my MiSTer. 2 other great features.
Controller accessibility, if its got USB 99% will work. Dualsense for SNES? M30 for N64, whatever you like or need for comfort.
Also region handling, can get RGB SCART output onto EU TV and play every NTSC console no problem.
Yes the versatility of being able to do basically whatever you want, however you want is gold
MiSTer is the only way to go these days. It is the absolute best in terms of cost, convenience, and capabilities. My only gripe as a newcomer to the FPGA world is I wish the UI/UX was better. Looking forward to the MARS for that reason. I think it will be what makes FPGA gaming truly mainstream. But my MiSTer will always have a place in my house!
I don’t mind the UI being basic. Keeps me from feeling compelled to add art and makes me just play. But that’s me
@@VideoGameEsoterica yeah totally get that!
I hate missing art but I also hate spending my time on fixing it. MiSTer solves that 😂
@@VideoGameEsoterica yeah not a problem if you just can't do it 😂
Haha exactly. Take the option away from me saves me time
I love my Mister. I had a stack system and later upgraded to the Mister multisystem from Haber. The development of Saturn, PSX and N64 cores have taken this way past what I wanted from the system. My original reason for the mister was for the SNES and Amiga cores, now I have NeoGeo, pc engine, nes, sega cd and 32x. All systems I wanted as a kid but could never afford. As you said in your video though that is just scratching the surface.
Yes the list of cores available is stupid deep and just keeps growing months after month
My misterfpga, three years now, I play it almost everyday on my 21' trinitron. Best purchase in gaming ever!
21 foot eh? Lol
I love my mister because I don't really need to fiddle with it. Emulators exist and retroarch is awesome but it still requires a ton of constant fiddling and if you want to output a modern computer to a CRT, that's a whole other can of worms. With Mister, once the initial set up is done all you need to do it run update all every week or so and enjoy. It's also a breeze to run into a CRT, just grab the right cable, toggle a few settings and your set.
It's not free but your getting 99.99% of the original hardware experience for a fraction of the cost of original hardware. Heck, if you don't spend the money to mod your original hardware then the mister is probably going to be delivering a better visual experience because most consoles use composite output to a CRT.
Yes the “fiddle factor” is diminished on MiSTer. And I use a metric TON of software emulators / do videos on them. 10x the questions on those videos then MiSTer setup vids
What do you mean that you have to do an update weekly? I just want something I can set up once and leave it.
You push a button. It does the rest. It’s no diff than any console or system ever. RetroArch? Update weekly. PS5? Updates near weekly. It’s just “press update and wait five min”
Lol. Yeah, ok, you dirty thief.
I've had a MiSTer for about 5 years but have barely had time to use it. I need to rethink my work-life balance.
It happens to the best of us. My shame pile is huge
Going on 5 years with my MiSTer. With MARS coming, I may turn my Mister into a more computer centric platform to work with my VGA monitor.
First mars needs to release and second they need all cores ported. That will take a minute
@@VideoGameEsoterica Yes, the cores bit is a significant thing and for a lot of us, the cores we have are plenty good. They'd likely need to have cores to cover more recent consoles to justify people upgrading from what they've got.
Yes. It remains to be seen
I was ready to buy an N64 right before Robert announced his plans for the core. Very glad I didn't. Get a MiSTer. Save the original hardware for the collectors/preservation.
You waited just long enough haha
There are possible polyphony issues with sound effects in Starfox 64 (ring acquisition sound effect) and Mario Kart 64 (invincibility sound effect). I'm testing my real N64 against a friend's MiSTer. Despite that, the MiSTer is VERY impressive! The way textures render seems to be 1:1 from what I can tell. I'll be getting one for sure. Thanks for the channel updates with this device!!
Happy to do the updates. I’m sure bug fixing to the issues you mention will be forthcoming in 2024 too
Lol. You're so silly. Wondering about polyphonic effects, when you should actually be worried about being a thief and criminal.
Super cool projection!@@gamesandplanes3984
I have had an analog version of the Mister for a few years now, but I have only ever had to use the HDMI out. I should have just went with digital from the beginning as now I want to upgrade to dual ram to future proof my Mister and if I did it from the start I would have saved a few bucks.
The good thing is the IO boards aren’t too bad of a price and you can grab one from MiSTerAddons and swap them easily
Bought one last year because of your videos. Have one hooked up to a CRT via component. The ultimate retro gaming machine! Now I just have to find a 2nd CRT for all the TaTe arcade cores.
Careful. You’ll end up with a room filled with CRTs like I have
@@VideoGameEsoterica That's the plan!
Haha just be careful of your back. Team lift!
I had a mister since 2018 and for console cores it's great. However, for a while I have been unhappy with a lot of the classic arcade cores. I know defender and Robotron cores are poor because I have the original boards and the Williams jrok boards. For Christmas I got a bitkit 2 which concentrates on classic arcade games accurately. It's excellent and something you may want to do a review on?
I’ll look into it
How do they differ from real arcades? Honest question, I plead ignorance here.
Ease of use is higher on MiSTer. Keeping boards and superguns around to run arcade game boards is cumbersome and annoying. Trust me…I’d know. Gets you playing quicker with no setup on MiSTer. Accuracy is very close to real boards if not 1:1 on some cores
@@VideoGameEsoterica I can only speak from my own experience using original hardware and other FPGA solutions but defender, robotron2084 and galaxian are bloody awful on mister. The sound is wrong, there is latency and the gameplay isn't correct.They are no better than mame .
Those are def ones I haven’t checked at all
I've seen people show pictures of it but never with anything for reference so I assumed it was a massive brick of circuitry. Holy crap that thing could fit in my pocket!!
Yes it’s basically the size of a phone
The MiSTer is without a doubt one of the best electronic things I have bought in my life. I bought half a year ago and it is absolutely fantastic and worth every cent. I have it hooked up to my 83 inch OLED and it looks stunning. I am a person who also cares a great deal about audio quality so I use the SPDIF output on my MiSTER and got it connected to my Technics SACD player which also has an SPDIF input. The internal DAC is truly amazing and the sound coming out of the MiSTer is perfect. I think video is just as important as audio.
It def keeps delivering over and over again day in and day out
So is it true that Misters adds at least 16ms/1 frame of lag when using it's HDMI port, and then there's another 10ms coming from your OLED TV? That's at least 26ms of lag total using wired controllers...Seems like it's only worth using MiSTer on a SDTV CRT via composite or component as it's analogue port is lag-free and then there's zero lag coming from the CRT.
If i'm going to play retro games on a 43" QD-LED, i'm probably better off sticking with lag-free FPGA consoles and using EverDrives.
83 inch OLED?? I need neighbors like you
Absolutely love my MiSTer! 😍
With a fully loaded 1TB SD Card along with my MT32-Pi and tty2oled, I'm in retro heaven and use my MiSTer system more than all my previous and current gen consoles all put together! 😎
I love my MiSTer system that much that I own three of them! 😅
I do love me some MIDI on the X68000
@@VideoGameEsoterica can you do a video of what the MiSTer can do MT32-Pi style pretty please! 🙏
Old and I should do another but : MiSTer MT-32 Pi MIDI Build and Tutorial - MIDI on MiSTer FPGA - Sharp X68000 and AO486
ruclips.net/video/KA8iP4fqDo8/видео.html
As someone who hangs around the outskirts of this community and reaps the benefits after people explain it to me, I gotta say I think their marketing is working very well because it got to this channel and now I know about it.
Lol their marketing?
@@VideoGameEsoterica ha god dammit I was commenting on the mars project video after it finished, and didn’t realize it had auto started this one right before I pushed the comment button 😑😑😑. Leave me alone!!!
Hahaha I get it
I've tried several emulation setups (Pi, Odroid, Pandora's Boxes and MAME PC's) and nothing compares to Mister for retro gaming. Best bit of tech I've ever bought!
I agree :) obv
Nah, a PC with a proper emulation setup is way superior to any Pandora, Pi and android setup. These are all the bottom of the barrel of software emulation.
the cool thing is, you can also do fun stuff with the de10 nano fpga dev board if you are a tech enthusiast
Yea it’s def not just limited to being a MiSTer
Would love to see a video on the RetroTink 4k in use with the MiSTer, your videos are brilliant! Hope you have a great 2024
Soon. I’ll probably make it Saturday and schedule it for next week. Barring any issues
Wonderful, looking forward to it@@VideoGameEsoterica
I love you Mister everyone should give it a chance. I’m building my fourth one this year. however, since I bought my Mr. with games preloaded on an sd chip, I want to learn how to program the Mr. and load games from my library and from developers as well. Do you have any videos of how to download games from developers? If you don’t, I hope you can make one soon in the future. No rush. Thanks VGE
I have some manual install info in Saturn and N64 videos but I can’t remember which ones now
@@VideoGameEsoterica , when you get a chance can you send me a link, I greatly would appreciate that VGE. You and pixel cherry ninja are my favorite channels of 2023 and so far 2024.🤙
My phone is being stupid. The link is in the N64 video (latest) under a setup guide link that teaches manual installs
@@VideoGameEsoterica sorry to bother you one more time, but do you know the title of the video? And I know how you feel about your phone. My phone has been acting up too.
Should be this one : m.ruclips.net/video/vBJUx7kCEmg/видео.html
I have my OG Mister I got years ago for $110. Now I want a second and the Mister Pi and Qmtech are always sold out. Also really want a portable. Lets get it done.
Soon. At least on Pi
If they worked with retroachievements, Id get one. Thats a fun community over there, seeing whos playing obscure old stuff alongside you.
I’ve heard people really get into that. I haven’t tried it myself
I have the GunCom 3 but currently my new 55” QLED is too thin for the sensors so I have to figure something out. Also need to remount the sensor bars for the Wii and Wii U. Also, the the mount I had for my Xbox 360 camera and PS3 camera won’t fit on this TV. Only thing that wants to sit up there is the PlayStation 4 camera.
I use command Velcro hooks myself
I'm going to be buying one tomorrow :) I'm making a fully loaded model with a metal case, passive cooling with analogue and digital out :) I also did what you said and got the 128mb of ram Great video :)
Nice! Enjoy it when it’s done :)
Where are you shopping for RGB N64s? I got one for ~$130 this past year. It plays all my original cartridges, which my MiSTer does not, but certainly the FPGA route is great too.
Good to have options
I didn’t realize how much the price has gone up for the DE10. I think I got mine for around $150 back in 2019/2020
Inflation is a killer
If my DE10 died right now I would IMMEDIATELY order a new one. There is no question.
While it is absolutely correct that the Mister is cheap compared to RGB modded original hardware, it should also be said that software emulation (e.g. via a raspberryPi) is the cheapest and still a very good way of playing old games. Yes, if you are an enthusiast and want to have the best experience, surely the Mister is the way to go, but for the sake of giving a complete and transparent picture, this point should not go unnoticed.
Maybe not relevant for the enthusiast subscribers of this channel, but in case for somebody new doing his research and watching the vid ;-)
I have the Pi 5 next to me for videos soon
This is a very good video for newcomers to Mister ecosystem, however one thing I think you forgot to mention why one would choose a more expensive Mister instead of say a Raspberry Pi. Anyway, looking forward for new content as always.
Not really the videos intent. I have others from this year that explained it :)
That SNK jam is undeniable
Classic
Nice I think this is the video I was looking for
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If I had a RGB capable monitor I would totally get a mister. As it stands, the analogue pocket on the dock is scratching my FPGA itch for now.
It’s a bummer Pocket can’t handle the PS1/Saturn/N64 stuff
@@VideoGameEsoterica I’m not a big ps1/n64 guy so that’s fine. I love Saturn though but for that I already own a Saturn with a satiator so I’m good for now.
I love it all. Obviously haha
Maybe I don't understand the MISTer but why choose this expensive option over just emulating on a regular computer/laptop that you probably already have?
I have a video on what the fundamental differences are :) check the playlist
Accuracy is the main reason
I bought a de-10 Nano for about $125 off Amazon during the pandemic which wasn't that long ago so it makes me sick how much the prices of these have gone up. Would I buy one today at the current prices if I didn't have one? The answer is yes of course. However what I can't do anymore is buy one as gifts.. If it was still about $240 total for everything then it would be something possible. For $500+ now though, it's just too much.
Inflation is a killer
Like I always tell everyone with a HiVision- “you gotta get a mister. Plugs right into the RGB socket, so easy.”
Ahh yes everyone can go run out to the HiVision store and grab one!
@@VideoGameEsoterica looks suspiciously like some dudes garage but hurry now stock is limited
It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the HiVision again
Mine is out for delivery today, exciting stuff...
Oh wow perfect timing
@@VideoGameEsoterica getting and setting up a MiSTer seemed like the sort of new year's resolution that I could actually keep.
The best kind of resolution…more fun!
One thing missing here, for the budget conscious retro gamer is answering the “what about a raspberry pi (or whatever)?” question.
Shh don’t spoil upcoming videos ;)
@@VideoGameEsoterica 🤐
😂
After seeing your retrotink 4k review I’m pondering building a second mister with analog output
You can just use direct video out of the HDMI port. I’ll have a video on it soon
@@VideoGameEsoterica but won’t there be a little more input lag that way?
I’ll be testing that. I don’t believe it will be much if any difference
@@VideoGameEsoterica please do and let us know. The community demands and appreciates it haha.
Soon 👍
I have 2 misters (got the first one before the boom so around $100) and I plan to get a Mars when it becomes available. FPGA baby!
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with MARS in 2024
Is there a full set up available for purchase that includes games? Or at least a preconfigured card that you can just drop games onto?
Not that I am aware of. No reputable builder of MiSTer would send a populated card out as that could lead to issues
That face when the "junk" you bought for university course work turns out to be more useful to all the emulation devices you bought since graduating ... 2024 retro gaming here I come.
Course work eh?
You did forget the shopping links for the DE-10 Nano by the way XD
It’s in there. MiSTerAddons. He has DE10s ready to go and they aren’t in Taiwan
OK maybe I didn't understand the video, you do talk fast, but I'm left wondering, what about this justifies spending soo much money instead of just emulating? It seems you'd have to spend quite a bit just for retro systems. Those of which can be emulated with ease on pc or even your phone
I'm sure this will sound incredibly noobish, but in order to play the retro games on a MiSTer, do you just have to find the "roms" or can you collect the actual physical copies of games? I've recently gotten a RetroUSB AVS and started collecting NES carts. I'd love to get into Genesis/32x/Sega CD, and SNES, but part of what I'm loving is finding the real carts. Thanks for looking!
You don’t use physical games, just files
@@VideoGameEsoterica thanks for the super quick response! I did want an Everdrive as well, but by the time I’d get a Genesis, SNES and Everdrives, I’d be over the price of a MiSTer. I think one of these is in my near future 👍🏻
Def get into MiSTer. So worth it
I'm just glad the price is going to plummet with competition hitting the market
The DE10 won’t change in price
I have 2 already ❤️Bought a 2nd DE10 Nano before the pandemic hit. One will be installed into that Checkmate monitor.
Having 2 means twice the fun…I think lol
"a hundred and change arcade cores"? I don't know how many rbf files there are (a "core"), but so far as how many arcade games are available, after a first/fresh update_all... there are well over 1,000. I haven't counted recently but I think it might be approaching 1,400.
I’m def counting CPS / CPS 1.5 / CPS 2 as just three cores and not per game
Whats your favourite way to use controllers on the mister? which one? which connection?
Depends on the core honestly. Tons of options. Using Reflex Adapt a lot lately. I just did a vid on it
@@VideoGameEsoterica ah thanks, i missed that one!
It’s a fun one. Def check it out
@@VideoGameEsoterica will do!
2024 AND NO CPS3 CORE , why im patreon again....i can't remember
I’m guessing that’s what Jotego and his team take on next after Neo Geo Pocket
The best bang for your buck is a second hand Wii ($30), easy software jailbreak and gets you about 80% of what MiSTer does.
Wii’s are cheap as dirt
maybe the wii-u is even a better buy as it has a built in HDMi output already ?
I wonder how much those are going for now
And the Wii has a 15khz output for emulators!
Not really. ☮️
Rather than spend the $$$ on another MISTer, get a TATE set-up. TCL TV's can be rotated any direction without damage. My 50'' TV cost $350 new and delivered. The stand cost $40, the fitting cost $80.
I have no more room for any screens lol I’m drowning in them
I have one.. but put it away for 6 months and the USB hub died.. really frustrating.
Odd. The whole thing?
Can you use a lightgun with a vga monitor via mister?
Also what are the savestates like? I'm told they're quite limited in number but that was a year or so ago and I'll need loads for playing shmups
You can use a vga monitor if you like double to 31kHz but some light guns may still get a little angry about it in my experience. Save states are generally NOT in cores. A few have them
Big Mister over here trying to get us to buy more Misters.
Don't mind if I do.
Terasic should really have me on the payroll
Nice video! What are your thoughts on Marsupial MiSTer Multisystem?
Here you go haha : New MiSTer FPGA Hardware! M3 Marsupial Multisystem Review and Teardown
ruclips.net/video/bxj1rqe9BIQ/видео.html
What's the main advantage of mister Fpga over a emuelec tv box with a good hardware?
Check my playlists. I did a vid on FPGA vs software emulation
Would love to see Sin and Punishment played with a mouse 😊
Here's a question.. anyone know how much lag am I'm getting if I hook my MiSter up HDMI to my PC capture card (PCI) and play off of OBS?? I dont have a CRT tv or anything. Im curious if/how much lag I'm getting tho playing like this.
Too much IMO. I can’t play from OBS personally
Please someone explain to me does mister FPGA emulate 100% like original hardware ??
Check my playlist. I have a video on that topic :)
I’ve debated on getting a second mister, I have the analogue single ram one. Do you think my second one should be digital dual ram version? Or another analogue
Around 3 years ago I bought the analog version and only ever use HDMI. If I know then what I know now I just would have went digital with dual ram. Now I am planning on converting to dual ram. If you are only ever going to use HDMI I would say go dual ram as it's going to be more and more necessary for some of the upcoming cores.
Either would be great but May as well do dual ram
Plus you can do direct video out if you need too as well
I think I’ll go digital dual ram this time. I do use my analog out when I want to play on a CRT but if I want to do that I can just use my analog mister, plus it sounds like the dual ram may be utilized more in the future although right now it’s not fully needed yet, thanks for the tips
Yeah I’d def go dual for a second build
No need to convince me! My MiSTer is the best investment I've ever made in retro gaming in my entire life. It has been a game changer for me and I spend more time with my MiSTer these days than any other gaming device.
Hey and you got to meet me. Your new best e-friend that isn’t Taco or Robby! (But for real the community is great)
I managed to get a de10 nano for free. Bought the rest from mister addons. Also recomend upgrading the micro sd card. The stock one that comes with the nano isnt very good.
How’d you manage a free one? Nice
LONG LIVE THE PROJECT!
Lol going into the backlog I see
@@VideoGameEsoterica missed this one somehow , and I needed to show someone what the project was about ! So of
Course I shared this
@adventuretaco7140 haha yeah you did!
@@VideoGameEsotericaviewership spike or what ?
When are you going to cover Groovy MiSTer?
Eventually. I have a list a mile long for videos
Can you make mister video with all the add ons?
All the add one? There are so many
@@VideoGameEsoterica Make it a top 10 list
Maybe one day
So how do I get into this?
You can build one or buy a pre-built
@@VideoGameEsoterica I have 0 experience on this thing
Google mister Addons. He should have some pre builts available. I also have build guides on the playlist
@@VideoGameEsoterica yeah I’m so lost 😂 builds 🤔
Just a raspberri pi 4 or 5 or a cheap pc can do all that too for 1/3 of what this cost 😅
That’s not really the point
"Why you need one" I already have one. "Or a second one" Okay, but my wife's not gonna be happy..
lol that’s between you and her
Just never let her see both in the same room.
Haha this is the truth
if you think about it, they sell it preety cheap for all that it DOES lmaoo, i didnt knew it was THAT good
For what it does it’s a bargain
I have mister, rgb-pi and coinopps, i prefer rgb-pi for crt.
I’m straight MiSTer or real hardware for that myself
Time for a second for a second room… way ahead of you brother.
All rooms need a mister
I plan to get a mister pi since it is cheaper
Always a good option
I hope u got one cause all the batches are sold out right now.
Could a Steam Deck do all of this?
In a different manner yes. Well not the analog out portion
@@VideoGameEsoterica There are ways. But yeah not as simple as the mister. Beside that you need to configure stuff to have an experience like on the mister with software emulators.
If you're out there and you're on the fence about this, get it. I'm someone who does not splurge on personal items, and this was so worth it. It continues to be more worth it by the day, as people keep releasing cores. ❤
I’ve yet to meet anyone who regretted their purchase
Cool device but very early stage of progress if you can already do wii games or gamecube or something different it would be worth it but for me doesnt
So you are just going to flex on everybody with Garou: MOTW CIB? I don’t remember if you ever showed us that before. What an S-Tier game. 😮💨
I have. In my Neo Geo collection video from last month :)
@@VideoGameEsoterica missed that. About to catch up
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I love my De10-Nano. It's a shame to live in an almost communist country like Brazil. To buy it now we have to pay up to 60% of the price + shipping. Very expensive, and almost impossible for those earning minimum wage.
I’ve heard from a lot of Brazilian commenters about how bad it is. Almost cheaper to fly somewhere and bring it home
Only a second? Pft, let's get a third.
Because I don't regret my poor decisions enough. ಠ_ಠ
Oh yeah and then I got two ironclad boards because WHY NOT. >__<
Granted that's because the latest revision massively improved their MT32 pi integration. But still. T_T
Haha the more the merrier
Na - used an old laptop and emulation and it did all this for a fraction of the cost.
Debating a PS5 for a few new games, or a MiSTer for _thousands of games instantly_
I will say my PS5 is mostly collecting dust these days
I had mine before the pandemic. Best investment. Can’t wait for Mars for Dreamcast and higher level arcade board
MARS has been quiet lately. Wonder when the next info is coming
ill be playing the mister until the day I die then ill stop
Solid plan 😂
no difference from emulation on the pi to be honest.
I def wouldn’t say that
"no difference from emulation" you couldn't be more misinformed.
Nice video. But one thing you haven't told ist that all of this is piracy except you own all the boards, games etc...
So yeah it's cheaper but the only real legal way to play all this stuff that isn't ported to another current platform, is to buy those expensive cartridges or arcade boards, etc...
I show what I own so 🤷🏻♂️
@@VideoGameEsoterica
Don't get me wrong. It's not about yourself.
I just wanted to mention it.
Pirating old stuff that isn't available at an affordable price for ordinary mortals is a necessary evil for me.
I wouldn’t even call it evil lol
Oh I see now ...
It’s not cheap when you own three…
One for my studio, one for my PVM and one for dual ram testing / my television in my living room. But I use them for the channel a ton so I need redundancy
I'm holding out for the Mars
I wouldn’t pass MiSTer but that’s me. Mars is still mostly unproven
MiSTer is my stop. N64 is my nostalgia limit and desires and anything newer than that is meh to me. Once Robert Peip developed the N64 core, buying a MiSTer was a done deal.
DC with ODE on Tink 4K was so good I don’t think I’d need anything else. But I’ll still take it lol
should look out for the arcade replay 2 instead of mars
That is an interesting concept too
Not to rain on your fpga purist retro parade, but failing to mention that you can download retro arch on your android smartphone for free is a marketing gimmick if you can even tell the difference between that and real hardware.
Lol what?
There are no 64 megabyte Neo Geo games. They are megabits which 1/8 of a megabyte. All old consoles measures carts in megabits.
E.g. SF2 on the SNES was 16 megabits. I.e. 2 megabytes.
KOF 2003 is approx 90MB or 716mbit. There are plenty of 64MB plus games on Neo Geo
I wonder if this guy is somehow sponsored by MiSTer? Not one price comparison to PC emulation. I have been emulated ROMS since the late 90s on my Athlon 600-1.4 system and emulation on modern powerful (non ARM) cores is even more impresive. Someone who is tech savvy should NEVER have to spend a dollar on emulation unless if they want a plug and play sytem ready to go with minimal effort. Word of advice- the WWW and torrent software are your friend and ARM rocks for Chromebooks...
MiSTer isn’t a company and I show plenty of software emulation on the channel. Price comparison…$450 to zero
#ad #sponsored
And?
And? 😂
AND I was looking for an honest unbiased review of a product I want to buy. Not a shameless shill. At least I know to avoid your channel now
Yes please do avoid my channel. I’d appreciate it 😉
Is too expensive
There’s a clone coming out. Check my videos
$500 fucking dollars.
Well you don’t need to earn the $500 that way but it’s always an option
Very expensive elitist emulator, lacking lots of quality of life things of software emulators... But I'm kind of an elitist in this kind of things, for now I will stick to real hardware and software emulation, but I will keep watching the development of hardware emulation
It really isn’t elitist. It’s a diff way to accomplish something. Just more money
I’ve been broke before too. Just budget better and you’ll be alright.