FIRST DRIVE: New 2024 Vauxhall Corsa Electric. Has Vauxhall priced itself out? | Electrifying
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
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Do you remember the Vauxhall Corsa-e? Probably one of the most approachable little electric cars ever made, but one that also managed to be … how to say this politely?… a bit dull.
Luckily, it seems like someone at Vauxhall has been listening, so now we have this… the NEW Vauxhall Corsa Electric. A bit more grown-up looks-wise, and definitely more modern. It’s had a bit of a hardware upgrade too and can go further on a charge.
But there’s a bit of a problem. The price. Although the Corsa-e was never exactly a bargain, it was one of the cheapest electric cars you could buy - especially when Vauxhall threw in some incentives such as 0% finance. That all changes with the new Corsa Electric, which starts from just over £32k and goes up to £38k for the range-topper. That’s nearly £40,000… for a Corsa.
To try and soften the blow, Vauxhall has beefed up the spec. The battery has grown from 50 to 51kWh, enough to jump the WLTP range from 222miles to 246, a 15% increase. Which doesn’t sound like that much, right up until you need to get home without stopping… and it’s 30 miles away…
Join Nicola as she takes a close look around Vauxhall’s new Corsa Electric. What do you think of its new look? Is it an improvement or did you prefer the old version? Is the high price a deal-breaker? As always, we love you hear your views, so let us know what you think in the comments below.
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Yes, Vauxhall and the whole of Stellantis has got its EV pricing completely wrong. It’s a Corsa with mediocre EV specs, it should start at £25k and top out under £30k. They are using ICE platforms, saving themselves a fortune, these prices are ridiculous and an act of self harm. You can get a Volvo EX30 for £33,795 and that is a proper EV from a better brand
Completely agree Bill. Stellantis new EV car prices are insane, yet depreciation on a 2-3 year old Corsa is shocking.
@@paulday8676 So is this Corsa equivalent to the Dolphin ?
Or buy a VW Golf for 25K and enjoy the thrill of long trips on the motorway at 70 mph in the winter without stopping to charge after 110 miles.
@@davidlewis4399 not much to enjoy about handing over £78 every time your tank is empty. I prefer plugging in overnight for £6
@@paulday8676 absolutely. What’s happening is that the used market is attaching a true value to the product. If the Corsa started at £25k, the depreciation wouldn’t look so bad. No idea why anyone would choose to pay MSRP though
The prices for small EVs are ridiculous at the moment. But you can get a two/three-year old top spec Corsa with low mileage for around £14 - £15,000 which is a much better deal.
Can you let us know where these £14 Corsas are please? Cheers
Or a 4 year old iPace for £25k?
@@riaz8783. Have you thought of Autotrader? Cheapest I’ve found is less than £12.5k or less than £13k with just 13k miles. 40 on there for less than £15k
Yeah I got a '21 reg Corsa-e for £14,800 with 20,000 miles and 3 year warranty. It's quite nice but I'd never spend over 20k, let alone 30k, for it!
Autotrader@@riaz8783
Wheels are same as pre facelift. Glove box is spacious due to left hand drive, this will be smaller on uk car due to fusebox location.
Info screen looks to be a big improvement, old screen was taken up by two large bands either side.
No it can't justify that price but Vauxhall massively discount the RRP. We just bought the previous model Corsa Electric. RRP was £34k actual price was £19,750. The first price is plain daft, the latter a bargain in EV terms.
Then it makes much more sense
Oh I'd bet that if anyone was foolish enough to pay the RRP, or close to it, they'll be pretty peeved at hearing what you got yours for😁
@@davidmehlhorn726 there are loads at that price on Autotrader still, trying to sell them all before facelift version hits the showrooms.
The reason you got it so cheap is because it’s an outgoing model - even though this new one is just a facelift. But I agree that Vauxhall are known for big discounts anyway. No one will pay above £30k for a Corsa electric.
If you read my comment I did say it was the previous model. While the facelifted model is a slight improvement there are no major changes and certainly nothing that would justify paying the RRP of the new model. Give it 6 months and the facelift model will be massively discounted too.@@CharlieGB03
£32k, hard to believe now that that was the cost of my mortgage 27 years ago for a 4 bedroomed house. 🤯
Indeed. The trouble is wages did not keep pace, for ordinary people. Back then a typical mortgage was about three times your salary, over a year.
Now it is ten times the average income. Partly why 2 of our kids moved to Australia.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 Buy to let mortgages have done the biggest amount of damage IMO, every home on a buy to let mortgage means one less home on the market for first time buyers, fewer houses means more demand which in turn means higher prices, as the mortgages go up it means rents go up to match keeping many in a no win situation of never being able to get on the housing ladder. The best option is an immediate end to all new buy to let mortgage & rent caps, that would allow first time buyers the chance to save for a deposit & those who can't afford to buy affordable rent, it would also save taxpayer's a fortune in money that is currently paid out to private landlords in housing benefits. Houses should be homes not cash cows for a small minority of the population to use to line their own pockets with.
Great review, great presenter😊
''Oooh that's deeper than I expected'' 🤣
This or a MG4 XPower or Trophy Extended Range or a Volvo EX30, Smart #1 ? 😂The Corsa is an OK car in isolation but a bad joke when stacked up against the competition.
True but we all know they will actually sell for £25k or less. Doubt we’ll get the same discounts on an MG/Smart/Volvo (some but not that much). Mind you I’d still have an MG4 at that price. Don’t understand why they put these artificial prices out there.
Literally the difference in price of euro vs Chinese
X Power all the way.
I'm profoundly inspired by your video! - "Challenges are stepping stones on your path to greatness.."
That's deeper than I expected, look to the camera. Absolutely brilliant.
The Peugeot e-208 GT pre-battery facelift model is trading for £23k new. Some dealers are taking £10k off the list. I know what I would do.
I drive one (company car). 2 year old ones now £14-£16k. I doubt I’ll get another company one, at that price for a low mileage 2 year old it would make much more sense to buy one myself.
Nice review - thanks. Good to find out more about the battery tech, which is usually the first thing we all want to know about when considering an EV.
We ordered the older version 18 months ago. After all the discounts it came to under £22k - an incredibly good deal. (The new prices are just daft!) Delivery was delayed a few times and, having discovered we would have a baby, we switched to the MG4. As you identified, the back door doesn't open far at all, and the rear space is small
8:38 👏 thank you for giving us nice details
Great review as always shocked with the price. I can understand why Audi, BMW and Mercedes outsell Ford and Vauxhall, Peugeot and everyone who used to be volume but now become premium. So pleased I went for my BMW 118 M sport offering great value and top quality.
I really can’t see some of these companies surviving. The prices are insane and the dealers need to be premium too.
Currently there are eight brand new e-Corsa GS models on autotrader in the uk for £19,795. I think that answers the question.
Did a mole from MG slip into the company and arrange the pricing? Or is it priced to be discounted? The fleet sector? Does not compute?
I like the new Vauxhall Opel face, but not on this and the Grandland where they used black plastic to fill in the gaps around the new narrower headlights. The new Astra is great. This just looks like a facelift done on a friday afternoon.
Thank you.
Great review 👍🏼 nice car , insanely silly price!
I like the Corsa, even if the price is maybe aspirational. Here in the Chicago suburbs, most people are only interested in giant trucks and SUVs…those folks wouldn’t look at this car if it were priced at $28K, let alone $38K (sorry, I know price was originally shown in pounds). And how about Nicola Hume? What a great journalist. Well-spoken, upbeat and genuinely knowledgeable and enthusiastic about all sorts of cars. Other channels would do well to learn her approach.
The price is a complete joke, and then they will turn around and claim that they are not seeing demand for EVs 🤔
I had the previous version for half the list price. Very happy.
Well, the Mini electric also starts at 32k and has less room, a smaller boot and a lower range. But anyway, 32k is too much for any small car. Electric or otherwise.
So, a few things to add here:
1.) Stellantis moronically raised the prices on the Corsa and Mokka about 7 months ago and subsequently lined the new electric Astra up accordingly. So a top specc Corsa lands just under the price of a base Model 3 now - while the top specc Astra is in the territory of a Model 3 Long Range. The Mokka is somewhere in between.
2.) The new "gear selector" was actually introduced into the Corsa before the release of the new version. A neighbor of mine has the "old" version of the E-Corsa and has that very same selector in it.
The electric Corsa, Mokka and Astra are good cars, reliable, comfortable and well suited for your daily routines. But ever since Stellantis made them way more expensive (and they weren´t exactly cheap to begin with) I can not in good concience recommend those cars. They are just too expensive for what they bring to the table.
Their batteries are 50 - 54 kw. The good efficiency on the Astra was made real by reducing the power of the 156hp engine, effectively making the Astra and the new Corsa slower to accelerate than the previous Corsa despite the fact the previous Corsa had the 136hp engine. Said efficiency however goes out the window once you go over 110 kmh.
They all fast charge to a MAXIMUM speed of 100kwh. As far as I know there´s no charge management, meaning you can´t define, say, 80% soc as your charge goal. Last I checked you can only set a delayed starting time for charging - pretty much useless unless you use your own wallbox (if you have one).
Navigation does not include charging stops at all, the map merely shows you locations of chargers. Thats it.
No frunk, to extra space under the trunk or at least none worth mentioning.
But the biggest offense is the app for your phone. The only function that works reliably is showing you your soc. And even that takes remarkably long at times to display. All other functions sometimes don´t work or don´t work properly, including:
- You can activate the a/c system through the app. I tried this twice while the car was charging - it stopped charging the moment the a/c turned on. Useless.
- The app shows you the position of your car. However this doesn´t always update - I saw numerous occasions where the car was shown to be in a spot it previously was. For example, when it was parked in front of my home but the app showed is as being parked near my workplace, 26 kilometers away.
- The app records your journeys by taking the info from the car when you shut the car down and exit. Problem: it doesn´t always do that. More often than not I saw a solid third of a months trips missing from the records, so I stopped bothering with this "feature" as well.
- You can pre-plan a trip via the app (set a route) which then will be transferred to the cars navigation when you power up the car. While this usually works it can take a few moments, up to several minutes, for the car to receive the route. And you can only do basic planning, e.g. go from point a to point b. By the time the car receives the route you might just as well enter it manually onboard.
- There are a few other minor things that are not worth mentioning.
This app is, plain and simple, a massive insult. A buddy of mine who is into programming could probably do this better in a month with one of his hands tied to his back.
Sounds all pretty bad, right? Well, I maintain one thing: the cars themselves are, as the fine lady in this video said: fine. Fine cars, by themselves worth owning and comfortable to drive.
But with all those tradeoffs you got on them they are just WAAAAAAAAAY OVERPRICED. And this price hike came shortly AFTER Tesla had lowered their prices.
So, as our dear host said: if you really, really want a Opel / Vauxhall electric car you´re in good hands - you just have to pay a damn lot of money. Money that might as well be invested in cars that might not be as cozy but are definitely offering way more.
That's deeper than I expected! Lol! Naughty Nicola! Haha! Love it! 😂😂😂👍
as someoen who picked up a 2020 corsa electric for £15k a few months back, this is a nice update but jesus christ that price increase is insane, nice to see 11kW AC as standard though
Do you have 11kW AC charging at home? I thought 7kW was the limit for single phase AC
@@bluemountain4181 I personally have 7kW at home, but a lot of the public AC chargers near me are 11 or even 22kW
@@bluemountain4181You can get 11kw home chargers. Around £1000
Yea, just checked and there's loads of 2020 and 2021 Corsa-E available for around £15K. That's some depreciation!
@@sargfowler9603 i think much like this one, it was priced too high at launch, and had much more enticing competitors with better deals at launch. they're super solid cars but few gaveit a chance because vuaxhall fucked the pricing
Stellantis has a weird pricing strategy. They massively inflate the MSRP and then give big discounts later. Wtf?
Weird ? I would call it suicidal.
@@stevenjones916yeah that sounds like a PR nightmare
I guess they hope that some customers won't haggle and just accept the shafting, if only 10% of them do that it probably makes it worth it.
Great review but how much is it?
67p
“That’s deeper than I expected” then that look…🤣
I think Vauxhall will run into what VW calls 'customer resistance' with this and the Astra. They're much too expensive. Early adopters are all on their second electric cars now and the remaining customers are just normal people who are careful with their money, waiting for prices that don't make you cough. In the meantime, they'll buy MGs and BYDs and whatever else comes over from China. And who can blame them?
£38,500! They are taking the mickey!
If you want a roomier, better equipped and let's face it more exciting car, just go for an MG4 XPower! For just £36,495 you get a fully equipped supercar! It has 360+ litres of boot space up to the boot cover and lots of tech, heated seats etc. But best of all it has 4 wheel drive and around 440 bhp with 600 Nm of torque with a 0-60 achieved in a quite reasonable 3.7 seconds.
For around £12,000 less than the Corsa, you could get a larger MG4 base model, with more equipment. Of course no 4 wheel drive madness but a more comparative machine.
Sensors are NOT hidden in the visor, you can clearly see the large rectangular sensor panel in the middle of the lower grill
I have a corsa C and love it the New model is great but the e is very expensive well thats tecnology
A lot of comments regarding the price...makes me think.
Must be a marketing strategy, same as with mobile phones and other top end tech. If you want the latest model it will cost you twice as much than if you wait a year or 2. Rarely a difference in useability, this kind of improvements happens aprox every third year.
The size of the investment they would have to put into production to match the anticipated demand of this car at, lets say 25K, would make it unfeasible. Much better to spread it out through a 5 year lifespan.
Bottom line: Tesla 3 ==> £43K (plus £200 for delivery to your front door).
Must give kudos for the effort to be kind to the manufacturers. If you don’t tell kind stories the manufacturers won’t lend out cars.
The glovebox is deeper than expected. Then remembering that it's a lefthand-drive car lol.
Is this a LHD Vauxhall? I’m confused
Why would you want to pay £10/15 K+ more than a petrol model !!!
The avenger looks better and is more practical. Even if they drive identically, it would be the better choice when there is just a few hundred quid between them.
The Jeep has not the range due to the stupid SUV format.
What are Stellantis smoking? Why would anyone buy this ICE platform supermini when you could have an MG4, BYD Dolphin or even a model 3 for not much more
For £4,400 more you can buy a new Tesla Model 3 !!
£5k is a lot of money
I just about justified to myself paying £29k for my top spec e-208 back in 2020. Attempting to charge £38k for a top spec Corsa is laughable. I think the market forces will readjust that.
You did not mention the new more efficient and powerful motor which comes with the upgraded battery.
MG Dealers must be quaking in their boots.
The original battery was 50kwh gross and 45kwh useable so 6kwh difference from the new one.
I think they need to drug and alcohol test the management board at Stellantis group. Totally Bonkers cuckoo land pricing, £38.5k! then take a look at the depreciation over 3 years, those monthly payments are going to be probably beyond the realms of the typical Vauxhall owner.
Also, no one EVER pays the list price for Opel or Vauxhall. 20pc discount AT LEAST is always given from showrooms.... or the usual internet platforms
I've seen loads of these heavily discounted recently - closer to £20k for a brand new one
£40K for a Corsa 😮
Lol yup, even half that is too much for a corsa
Do you get a sticker on the back saying “ I’m a chump for paying over £30k for a Corsa”
Tesla 3 ==> £43K
Wait 3 months, the real world price will be under £30k! No one will buy them above that.
@@SWR112 hopefully the sticker also comes with a nice stay in a padded room to stop the chumps from hurting themselves or anyone else
The price is obscene. We have an OG 2020 Corsa-e. Would we do the same again given the current market? No. We would get a Volvo EX30.
When Opel (or Peugeot to be fair) does a proper EV they will for some reason lose that no frills, nice looking interior for some wild fad and a screen.
You can buy the 1.2 turbo auto for £19k, no doubt much cheaper insurance and over 400 mile range. Am I missing something?
Volvo is going to sell a TON of EX30 if Stellantis think they can charge nearly 40k for a Corsa😅😂
why would anyone buy this over a volvo ex30 is beyond me, unless you get a good finance deal.
Used EV values are bombing and the Corsa EV is a major casualty. With the rapid pace of technology and falling new EV prices I suspect that it will make more sense looking at EVs in a couple of years from now. At that time who's likely to pay top $ for today's over-priced, under-ranged models?
32k, for a milk float, do Vauxhall want to sell cars, or go bust, mad money .
Wait two years and buy cheap when one of these comes off lease.
Yep they are going for £14k currently!
Frankly, if you're thinking of one of these, go and look at the Volvo EX30...or several other better deals!
I loves me a panny roof too! 😂😂
no full leather seats option rules it out for anyone with dust mite allergy.
£2k more and you get a model 3….no one in the right mind would have this over the Tesla? Vauxhall, this is an outrageous price
Tesla 3 ==> £43K
@@firstnamelastname9631 I literally bought a brand new RWD Model 3 last month £40k
Even if you get a Tesla 3 for £3k more, the price of insurance between both is what gets you
How to loose money quickly….buy an electric car as demonstrated in this great review thanks 👍
Or tight it. Why can’t people spell lose?
So basically they upgraded it into the current Peugot e208?
Just get an MG4 and have a month in Spain with the change.
Never have I been more entertained by a woman failing to count to 6. But Nicola's also right at the end there. Wait 2 years, get an ultimate for half price.
Less than that, previous gen ones £14k now so I’d expect max £16k for a 2 years old. It’s a bit of a game for manufacturers - these list prices might catch. A few customers but the vast majority will be fleet cars and they will be getting huge discounts, hence the ex-lease bargains.
An electric Corsa in the vineyards, because...why not ❤
Don't forget insurance costs & balloon payment on PCP.
4:17 😂
I guess few people in its target market have nearly 40k in cash lying around to splurge on a car. Finance is where it will live or die but I wonder how many will be put off by the ridiculous sticker price and never even get as far as a finance quote. Looks nice, but way better value out there.
It's perfectly fine... It's perfectly fine.... It's fine.... It's perfectly fine...
It’s like they’re not even trying with that price tag.
Comparing this car to many Chinese related vehicles (Volvo MG BYD etc) makes you think they're not going to sell to anyone who gas any sense?
Personally I'm waiting for the volvo ex30 , amazing value 🙂
Has...not gas 🫣
Seriously 38000 pounds for that corsa 😂😂😂, sorry I would rather have my kia niro ev k4 !!
Absolutely. Nice car not for Tesla Money. The Chinese are going to lap this car up and buy an MG or B.Y.D and so are we.😂
"you can't expect everything from a car that costs £38,500" 😅. Seriously Vauxhall did you use platinum instead of copper for the wiring?
They’ve got to be smoking something at Vauxhall, £32k for something the Chinese sell similar but with better tech for a fraction of that price….nope
Sorry Electrifying but I wont even be watching video. That's just dumb money and it could have gold plated controls, I am not interested
The MG4 is a stand alone product, designed from the ground as a BEV. STELLANTIS products are modified versions of existing and big selling vehicles, so where are the savings from "economy of scale" ?
This is a great point - if we get the deluge of Chinese EVs that have been promised for years it's going to wipe out manufacturers taking the piss with pricing like this
The MG4 is not as well made.
@@stevenjones916especially in this size, the bespoke EVs have no benefit over the ICE ones.
Tbh most people are unlikely to buy a corsa to fit a family of 5 in, your by an Astra or something similar instead.
Before watching........ Yep!
Not too bad, but a bit too expensive when you consider the competition - mainly MG and other Chinese brands, or for a bit more and a lot more range/efficiency the Koreans!
Stellantis just seems to be going off their loyal brand fans.
When you can get a 3 yr old E-Niro 4, with 4 years warranty left, for £16.5k - a smaller car with a smaller range and a lower warranty for twice the cost, is a hard sell!
It will depreciate in value faster than you can drive it
The used car market will decide whether the price is justified just look where ZOE prices are for a 2022 model.
Wouldn't put my money out for any £30k EV the tech is getting there but not the capital costs.
Why are you comparing the price of a top spec Corsa to a pre-reg Tesla or bottom spec Avenger? I’d probably choose the Astra instead but both a good cars.
Corser you could always go for something cheaper and better 🤪😂😂
Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. I bought a Corsa-E last year on the pre Ukraine war pricing which was, tbh, a steal. Lovely car....that melted it's entire charging system in that week of 40 degree heat in the summer. After 8 weeks off the road waiting on parts while I drove around in an old ford focus as the only car they could give me, I wanted shot and sold it for more than I paid (before prices crashed). Went Mazda hybrid.
I'd love an EV but couldn't afford it then and certainly can't afford prices as ludicrous as this. The Chinese will sweep in and steal everyone's business with ease with prices and questionable build quality like this. Poor show from Stellantis.
It's not really a Vauxhall, it's a Peugeot in a frock. The weedy petrol versions feel tired after 25k miles.
£32k for Vauxhall Corsa is laughable.
Unfortunately Vauxhall hit their high water mark a long time ago.
Somehow I can't see the Corsa staying as the no 2 best seller....
A couple of years ago you could buy a decent bmw or audi for 40k. I would rather have a 30k mini electric or 35k volvo
It’s all stellantis’s fault, GM would have never let this happen!!
It's a shame that this car is too expensive. Out of my list.
Tanks for this..MG4 X is better....
At £38k it is dead on arrival. Can buy a new Model 3 Highland with more range for £40k
I like the design but definitely not the price
China is throwing steel at the world but its quality is not currently up to agreed grading. Indian steel is more expensive but its resistance to corrosion is better; and ability to withstand pre & post manufacture product stresses and pressure is also greater.
BYD and SAIC Motors both understandably use Chinese made steel. Stellantis uses Indian or American made steels. If you’re only going to keep a vehicle for the 2-5yrs. from date of initial manufacture. I doubt it matters where the its steel came from but if you intend to keep it for longer or are buying secondhand or ex-lease, (typically 2-3yrs. old). You may want to consider who made the steel. And if you’re buying outright to sell-on in say 5yrs., you may want the highest residual value. So again, where the steel came from may be important.
But Stellantis are having a laugh with pricing like this. I’m not saying cars are cheap, they’re not. But there’s many who perceive German cars to be the best and a great many who believe the same of Tesla. Stellantis needs to be realistic about the markets it’s selling into.
I want the fake chrome back!
a right hand driving corsa with a vauxhall logo instead of an opel one? That doesn't fell right
Expected much much more form the facelift on the Corsa. It has little of the style the other Opels offer and zero of the value Opel used to offer. And have a weird symetrical look to top it off. Hell the 2012 looks more logical.
Can really see no reason to buy an Opel nowdays and I own 4 classic Opels so used to love the brand. They just have no focus or offer anything that is better then the other Stellantis products.
Buy a used Polo, Fiesta, C3 instead then this and save yourself some money.
Ahhh stellantis taking the pi$h, what have they done to the corsa 🙈 hate the new frontage style 🤦🙄
9:40 old corsa was 50kwh battery but only 45kwh usable - quoted 51kwh on this new one is the usable size, so it’s actually 6kwh more…
I bet your lots of fun at a dinner party ..
This car is DOA