FIRST DRIVE: All new Peugeot e308. Has Peugeot hatched a winner? | Electrifying
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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Say hello to the Peugeot e308 - the all-electric version of Peugeot’s chic five-door hatchback. It’s the latest battery-powered model to join Stellantis’s rapidly expanding range of electric cars and shares much of its underpinnings, battery and motors with the new Vauxhall Astra Electric.
It will be sold alongside the existing plug-in hybrid, petrol and diesel versions of the 308, and comes with an impressive WLTP range of up to 257 miles. It gets a 156bhp electric motor that drives the front wheels, and power comes from a 54kWh lithium-ion battery. There are no plans for a four-wheel drive version.
As with other existing pure-electric Peugeots, the Peugeot e-308 has rapid charging of up to 100kW, which means it can deliver a 10-to-80% battery charge in around 35 minutesA full battery at a 7kW home wallbox will take around eight hours.
It is also (as you may have noticed) a traditional hatchback rather than an SUV. Will this be the car to convert the traditionalist to electric?
Join Nicola as she takes the Peugeot e308 on the road in the UK for the first time. Are you a fan? Will it be on your shortlist for 2024? As always, we love to hear your comments so please let us know what you think below.
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Peugeot has really changed it up in recent years. Step in the right direction, well done Peugeot.
How can peugeot justify £42000 for this when the petrol version is £28000? Daylight robbery. Especially as electric peugeots on second hand market
An 28K base model isn't the same.
They usually have deals on these cars. But yeah, not worth it at full price
The other problem is, no matter how good the deal is, if the list price is 42k, then come 2025, you'll have to pay higher VED of £520/year
Check out (UK) Autotrader already. You have have a new one (GT) for £33k….£9k discount
And don't forget Tesla
It looks nice but £42k is Model 3 money so I'd rather have the Tesla charging network. Can't afford either though.
A lot of people mention speed all the time in comments , been driving 52 years and realised it not about speed ( you’re not on a race track ) 5 seconds to 60 is fast enough , it’s more about efficiency, range in town cars meant for towns 140 miles is massive. Out of town 250-300 miles is sufficient, you do need a decent break 1/2 hour to top up with food , charge your ev etc . Ps I also drive motorbikes , my current bike 0- 60 mph just under 4 secs plenty fast enough only used for overtakes , top speed of bike is 70mph . Could go twice that but I’d be in a box 🤪. Don’t please tell me I’m dull , I’ve done track days and been over 140mph . 😊😊👍👍👍
I absolute love that car. I think it looks stunning.
Transmission tunnel is present, due to the e308 also being available with an ICE and as a hybrid. So not a ground-up EV; but a fossil-burner turned EV.
Boot volume us only 412L with the ICE version. The EV has 361L
I love the new Peugeot design language. I also prefer the new logo to the old one, it just looks so clean but also mean at the same time.
I really like it, and I am now a fan of the new badge design - I was dead against it when I first saw it and can safely say I was wrong, fear of the new!
I got the hybrid 508 last year and man I love it. Didn’t like the standard 18 inch wheels so paid for the 19 inch ones and it’s perfect now. All black. The steering wheel is just perfect and the driving position is fantastic. With 220bhp, it’s perfect for long journeys. I’m just shocked that Peugeot chose to release ANOTHER hybrid 508 for 2023 instead of going full electric like this e-308 🤦🏾♂️
The new 508 is really only a refresh of the current one. Peugeot/Stellantis are at a junction. The 508 and these 308s are on the old, outgoing (e)-EMP platform. The replacement STLA-M is not quite ready yet. The new E-3008 will be the first car on that platform, hopefully showing up in the new year. Once that is bedded in I would expect the replacements of the other EMP cars to happen in due course. Of course Peugeot will want a good few years out of the current 308 as it is a recent version
e308 will have an ICE and hybrid versions, hence the transmission tunnel being present. It’s a fossil-burner turned EV.
Yes, I want an electric car that is different, not like a regular boring ICE one
I would definitely choose a car that does not ruin me and others economically.
Good car, and decent review. One small thing - you keep talking about "efficient batteries" - but this is misguided - it is mainly the inverter, motor, drivetrain, tires and aerodynamics (plus heatpump, etc) which makes an EV efficient, not the battery per se. If all of those aspects are efficient, yes the battery can be a more modest capacity for a given range. Stellantis keep making good tweaks to the platform efficiency, and should be congratulated.
If you shave a couple hundred kilos from the battery you can shave some weight as well from other parts of the cars like brakes. Lighter means more efficient. I guess this is where the gain from the battery originates from
I like it because it doesn’t overpromise like some EVs. I don’t mind the transmission tunnel at all It’s also very efficient, personally I like the Astra more. Both very good.
Thanks!👍
I was looking rather forward to learning more about this car, but they absolutely dropped the ball on the performance.
I don't need a 4, 5 or even 6 second 0-100 km/h car. But this close to 10 seconds just isn't cutting it for me. It's almost as slow as my old 1,2L Peugeot 208.
I do though have to give Peugeot credit for making a regularly looking car,and something that isn't a Crossover/SUV. More hatchbacks and estates please.
Looks larger than interior is. So the non BEV platform choice is the culprit.
Dose this car have safety features like the nissan leaf dose it stop when you are near a car or pedestrians also dose it have lane guidance
These electric hatchbacks coming in at Tesla model 3 money is absolutely insane.
Def have a M3 for that money!
@@rogerfinch7651a well thrashed used model maybe....new list price is over £70000
@@johnborton366 model 3 starts at 43k not 70k, unless you mistook M3 to mean BMW M3 - people use M3 as shorthand for model 3
Exactly, for that price a Tesla 3 doesn't even give you a hatchback, insane! Completely insane. Absolutely no idea why people fall for the Tesla 3....
@@TheAllMightyGodofCodand now they don't even give you indicator stalks
Manufacturers are going to have to produce cars like this if they’ve any hope of bringing EVs to the ordinary public.
Interesting that it didn’t come completely to a stop.
I recently hired a Polestar 2 & I’d say that was its killer feature (you can obviously turn it off) but when moving in traffic all you have to do is lift off the accelerator completely & the car stops & just sits there until the traffic is moving again.
Indeed, interesting choice from Peugeot. But then again, many manufacturers are the same. Not even half of models available now have one pedal driving. Huge wasted opportunity! It should be a togglable feature just like in Polestar so the drivers could decide themselves. One pedal driving is one of the best features in EV's for sure!
As another example Nissan decided to "modify" the one pedal driving for Ariya. In Leaf it works amazingly well, regenerating harder if there's traffic ahead etc. and comes to a complete stop as expected. However, Ariay according to marketing "has one pedal driving but it's disabled at low speeds"! 🤣 So... it does not have one pedal driving!
By the way you sort-of get one pedal driving on Peugeot with adaptive cruise control. If there's someone in front of you and they stop, you stop. Then you'll just press the pedal to start driving again. So, the car sure knows how to "one pedal drive", it's just their decision not to offer it as a feature. Sad!
The downside of never using the mechanical brakes due to regen is that the brake discs start to rust. It's become a real issues with EVs. Once you actually need them, they don't work anymore. Of course that doesn't happen over night, but still. My guess ist that Stellantis aren't offering full regen on their brands for that reason.
Looks great but its still a bit expensive for what it is, I think I just get more from the MG4 for less, how is it compared to a Cupra Born/ID3?
Rearwheel or front wheel drive... I can assure you I've had lots of fun with my Citroëns, fourwheeel drifts and all ;-) But I admit it's more fun on gravel or snow and ice than tarmac. Like your reviews 👍😊
06:12 I believe in the petrol powered version the tunnel is for the exhaust pipes, not the transmission, since those are front wheel drive and don't have a transmission tunnel to the rear wheels.🙂
Earlier this year I had the previous e308 as a courtesy car. I liked it and was impressed. I am sure the new one is an improvement but not sure it is a £40k(ish) improvement.
I think the regen brakeing works when you are behind another car when using cruse!
Love the new 308 I have the petrol allure premium and it is a very good car to drive and handles really well and have found the interior comfortable and easy to use I love the icockpit and everything is easy to use and the e308 has exactly the same dash as the petrol so not sure what she meant
The only negatives for me are the boot size and rear legroom
From the comments on this, the Astra and the latest Citroens. My hope is Citroen takes the lead from the other bits of Stellantis and builds an estate to compete with it. Would be slightly cheaper and comfier. It's my last hope before I buy an e-Berlingo in 5 years if/when the current car claps out.
I’d wait for the estate version
Isn't the boot size reduced to 361 litres in the EV compared to the 421 in the ICE versions? A little mistake there Electrifying team?
Yes that's right i have the petrol new 308 and that’s quite a loss in the boot
😂😂😂😂 I was sit and wait to write your number 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nice car first movement on foot break is second regen
£37k for a family-sized hatchback...?????
The accountants at Peugeot must've been smoking something 'strong' on that day...!! 😵💫
No doubt the sales figures will reflect on what the public think of this amazing piece of technology.
i like the colour
Hmmm my marketing head says “ don’t get caught in the middle ground. There is always something better or something cheaper” - great review though… 😊
Lovely looking car but like the Astra at over £40k it's far too expensive plus it'll be expensive to insure too.
No Focal audio in de E-308 is a dealbreaker for me.
I want the best audio I can get in a car, but why can the petrol and hybrid 308 get the Focal audio upgrade, but not the E-308?
I like a good looking car and don't care why it looks good so long as it does. I have a two seater convertible so practicality not a priority for me. Very close to a Tesla price wise but no doubt they'll discount them a lot when they're six months old
I just want a car to look like a nice car, regardless of its propulsion source. Of course it would be better if the 'engine bay' was a storage space, but we'll probably have to wait till Peugeot designs the 308 to be electric only.
It seems to me the Stellantis Group are really compromised by their use of a multi-engine platform - one is paying a premium for an EV yet getting the space and transmission tunnel restrictions of an ICE.
As has been commented below - regenerative braking which does not bring the vehicle to a complete stop is also a fail which this car shares with quite a few others.
It will be interesting to see if the Stellantis promises that the new battery/power/efficiency improvements result in 5 miles per Kwh proves to hold up to some longer term testing. Is this something Electrifying will be checking out, or are we stuck with just hearing manufacturer claims?
I am not quite sure where the choice between the low power performance of this e308 or the stupidly fast performance of the MG4 Xpower came from; any one of the MG4 range is significantly more powerful than this e308 and also quite a bit cheaper.
I stayed for the phone number. Now I feel betrayed.
That's how experiencing the quoted range on a Stellantis EV feels like.
I go for the new SMART #3! The e308 looks nice to, but its way to slow 🐢
Go for something bigger like Hyundai Kona? Kona is a smaller car compared to 308, its length, width, wheelbase are shorter than 308. Its height is 1.6 cm higher than 308, but being a crossover and having 4 cm higher ground clearance should mean that interior height is as well smaller than 308.
Personally I prefer electric cars to be different (a little futuristic) and that is from someone who drives a Soul EV (when I purchased the Soul - 2021 it was the best range available in my price bracket) but hopefully my next EV will be something designed as an EV from the ground up but I am leaving that change until I can afford an EV with 300+ range.
Absolutely. Trying to mimic old ages cars in a sake to attract boomers is just pitiful.
I’m the opposite , I like electric cars to blend in and look the same.
I rather a car with its own identity
Lost me at 42k
Battery prices are falling significantly so there's no excuse for these prices. Given the anti-EV hysteria in certain parts of the UK today, maybe the fake exhausts are a good idea!
Wow This is the most beautiful hatchback in the world
Impressive design
The steering wheel weirdness is a deal-breaker for me, the Astra is more appealing as a result.
Also, better than both would be a new Alfa 147 or Brera reborn as an EV on this platform.
Form should follow function. The silly little steering wheels have got to go.
The wheel is very subjective, I personally love it, you and many others the exact opposite. Steering Wheels are actually too big for their primary purpose, but we are all used the size (they have shrunk some) driven by the old need for mechanical advantage. As for Alpha et al, watch what happens with the STLA-M platform, once the E-3008 beds in
Went to look at the 408 and was gutted, got myself settled and setup and can’t see the instruments without moving as the steering wheel smack in the way.
Ended up ordering a Renault austral instead.
The tiny low sitting steering wheel is one of the main reasons I drive a Peugeot now and will most likely have a Peugeot next, too. Other cars feel kinda lorry-like to me with their huge steering wheels. And high up, too! Feels like being in a body search hands up against the wall when you are driving and that's not a nice feeling. 🤣
Model 3 comes close to Peugeot. It has small'ish steering wheel which you can keep nice and low because there's no view to dials to block. Polestar 2 on the other hand has a huge wheel you need to keep uncomfortably high to see even most of the instrument cluster. A deal breaker for me.
I would choose the 308 over the Astra all day, all night. It's the better car imo.
But I would choose the megane e-tech over both of these.
Nice car, but frankly overpriced for a C-segment family car. The price needs to come down by at least £10,000. The WLTP range is a bit underwhelming as well when the MG4 Long Range, Renault Megane Etech, Hyundai Kona, and Kia Niro EV all have over 270 miles of WLTP range and are the same price or less. Stellantis seriously need to have a look at their prices, this is not competitive. I fully appreciate that this is because we are not mining enough lithium and not manufacturing enough EV batteries in Europe, European car manufacturers need to address this urgently.
You know that’s only 10 miles more 😂
@@oliverstemp9132 Didn't she say the e308 had a WLTP of 250 miles? Anyway the AFAIK the Megane has a WLTP of about 280 miles, the Niro EV 285 miles and the Kona about 300 miles.
@@hishamg they are all very similar numbers
Overpriced? This summer I went with a friend to see used A class Mercedes and we also took a look at the 308/astra (diesel). Want to talk about overpriced? Look at the A Class.
This was actually a bargain, much better interior, nicer materials, more kit and better built.
Be careful with Peugeot. We bought a e208 GT as one of the spec options was heated seats. But they removed them from the spec before delivery and lack of heated seats in an electric car is "unwise". Of course they did not care.
Isn't that a breach of contract?
According to the EV Database, the real world range for this Peugeot E-308 is more like 185 miles - dropping to 130 highway miles in winter. This shows the real downside of using a platform that was designed for internal combustion engines. Why buy this when the Megane E Tech has 235 real world miles, costs less, and is better looking? It's easier to park too since it doesn't need a massive front end.
Megane is a tall SUV, E-308 kinda low'ish hatch. The upside of non-dedicated EV platform is batteries under the seats ONLY, not under the entire floor effectively raising the car up by 15+ cm. In E-308 you sit lower (than in Megane) AND have better legroom (than in Model 3).
I personally prefer small cars, like 2 doors car but not racing car, I'd go for this car's but smaller version ❤❤❤❤
The E-208 is smaller but can't fit adults in the back. Anyone over 170 cm will hit their heads.
@@_TrueDesire_ The 208 is also a 4 door and not available with 2 doors.
Not sure why Nichola mercilessly mocks the Astra e because of its admittedly high price in that video. But not the e308 which is basically the same crazy price for basically the same car here.
Why are Cars that are the same Colour as the Road considered Popular or good Looking?
Stellantis owns lots of brands, it is perfectly placed to take advantage of a bespoke EV platform and use it for lots of models across those brands. But no, what we get is the same mediocre EV kit bodged into an ICE platform. And even using a combustion platform, saving money, they still charge too much. The 308 and the Astra should start from £32k
I think that ‘bespoke EV’ thing is highly overrated, they is definitely good enough
@@oliverstemp9132 the internal space and packaging is a lot better on an EV platform. The Corsa might not be so cramped if the designers could have pushed the wheels out to the corners and not had to worry about a transmission tunnel
@@bill_heywood cars the same size as the Corsa but are bespoke EVs are not significantly more spacious, what is good is is that the floors are not super high unlike in some bespoke EVs, so it’s still comfortable.
Nice review and car. I do hope it comes to the Kalifornia Kollective ... BUT, what worries me is the mouse potential. No one talks about what happens when the critters decide to start chewing on the wiring ... We need cars with massive wiring bundles to have a closed metal under-body tightly fitted.
You mean like a Tesla? 😂
@@tesla-spectre Yup and maybe even better ...
10:14 The reason why it doesn't stop but goes to a creep is because it'll take less energy to keep the vehicle in motion than to start from a complete stop. That's in line with Newton's 1st. law of motion.
No. It's because Peugeot decided to skip the most wonderful feature an EV can have: one pedal driving. In city traffic you just have to stop every now and then and the most enjoyable way to do it is just lift your foot up. No moving it over to brake pedal, just lift it up. Nice!
I'd like to see someone creep 5 mph past a red light yelling "I'm just conforming to Newton's 1st law, I can't help it!" 🤣
Amazing car, full of allure! No other car brand I would choose...Team Peugeot!
Yes it’s nice overall. A little on the expensive side for the EV but very nice looking both inside and out.
Quite Lovely However 42k
I know it's electric ⚡
Wait until depreciation kicks in and buy a used one
Why is this in my feed when it's not even playable yet? Doesn't usually do that.
It’s called a Premiere…
@@itechtalk03 👍
No wonder the Peugeot garage is full of cars 😅 , so expensive.
The badge and the grill is just way to large. In primer grey as well, which probably costs extra............ If you really want one wait till one is two years old then it will be more like £18,000......... Shouldn't the system automatically remember the settings by which key you use?
257 miles. No Chance. you would be lucky to get 200 miles. The makers really do need to be called out on these outlandish figures from these (now)small batteries. Yes I know it;s a lab report number but I remember when the Zoe ZE50 came out and Citroen said that in normal driving it would achieve 180 miles in the Winter and 230 in Summer, less then the official 280 miles figures. Good review though.
Peugeot has a calculator on their website where you can check an estimate on real word range. As you said, WLTP is just a lab result you should use for COMPARISON, not as a promise of real world range.
The facelift tesla model 3 std range £39995
Can't wait for nicola's appearance in the next red bull podcast
A nice review and a lovely hostess......
Deli meli ama güzel kız :)
It's a good looking car but only 257 miles (=220 maybe) doesn't cut for me sorry
Such a beauty! The car ain’t bad either 😊
Stellantis are currently hell bent to produce EVs that are too expensive. This is then followed by incredibly high devaluation... Take a nice £42,000 Stellantis BEV and in 3 years it will be worth £15,000 to £18,000.... So if you fancy loosing nearly £700/mth for 3 years.... buy a new Stellantis. However, if you would love to save a fortune, buy a 3 year old Stellantis EV.... After all, they are proving to be reliable and cheap to run and insure.
Yep, bought a few low mileage 2-3 year old vehicles in the past. Last one (diesel) 16k miles, was less than half the new price, manufacturer’s 1 year warranty (extendable) also on a PCP.
I'm so bored of Stellantis releasing cookie cutter cars on this uncompetitive drivetrain and charging through the nose for them. I'll stick to my Kona Electric and the 300+ miles I get regularly.
Hopefully these will be fleet cars, and fuel the second hand market in a couple of years. The e.corsa is a steal now. Regarding speed, I run a gen 1 leaf and its 0-60 in 10 still embarasses most cars as the initial kick is so good.
@@willdclarke33 From my searches online it looks like 700,000 fleet EVs hitting the market in 2024. So yes.... I believe companies are buying new and people are considering new and are buying second hand. Personally I am leasing a Citroën E-C4. Lease is £265/mth vs £535 to buy. Then in 2025 I will probably buy a second hand 2022 car.
Prefers cars that are designed to work irrespective of drive train
Needed to be 10k cheaper. Not going to keep Stellantis in the game.
I’d say £20k cheaper
Everything is lovely except range and the acceleration, as almost 10 seconds is really pretty poor. Sadly, this will be a deal braker for many.
Looks a bit bland espcially from the side, could be just that colour I suppose
I have seen it in a very nice shade of green, very classy.
Like look of it but oh my £42k ??? Will never own one tho ! 😢
I don't understand why would EV's have to be "designed differently".....a car is a car, regardless what kind of the engine it has and having an electric motor instead of petrol or diesel engine should be just one of the available propulsion options....
257miles range? Only if you drive this car on trailer puled by disel car.
I have company van made by Stelantis... In the books their range is 135-137 miles... In real live batery charged to 100% dashboard prediction showed 141miles range.
I did 40 miles and range showed 70 miles remaining... 30miles range disapired magically over 40miles ride...
I have this van 2 weeks so far. I dont want imagine its range after 2 or 3 years...
How good is she a presenter! wow
What’s with this trend of car channels badly photoshopping the car to a colour you can’t buy for the thumbnail image?
What a disaster at the end!
Another poor attempt by stellantis. It just highlights how far behind they are.
Gorgeous looking car , but personally i think Kia and Hyundai are much better cars these days .
EV prices are just too high for about 90% of potential buyers, and this is no different.
Certainly too expensive for what you're getting. For the same sort of money, you can get a Honda Civic hybrid that has twice the range and never needs charging.
The simple truth is, that right now is far too soon for the majority of drivers to make the switch to EVs. Prices are too high, and charging infrastructure is inadequate.
If European car makers don't find a way to significantly lower their prices in the next ten years, they're going to lose a massive amount of customers to the Chinese...
Maybe the Honda never needs charging but just plugging an EV in on the drive once or twice a week is so much more convenient than having to find a petrol station. I agree on the prices and infrastructure. We're not there yet.
Prices are on the way down too. Expected price parity with petrol cars in the next 2 years. And consider then how laughably cheap they are to run! When petrol cars can only get more expensive.
A Civic hybrid is £35k, so I guess 90% of potential buyers are priced out of that too. Good job, because once they bought it, they’d have to leave the house to go and buy tanks of petrol at £62.78 every time. An MG4 is only £27k, you can charge at home and a full charge would only be £4.83 on a clean green energy tariff. No tailpipe fumes either
This is without doubt one of the best EVs on the market. This is exactly how it should be! The 208, Mini etc.
Why do EVs need to look like something from a bad 70,s SiFi film?
The sheer crap from Tesla ( stop for a second to consider Musk and our collective future... Bond villain but actually dangerous!) Hyundai, Kia, VW iD series, Porsche Taycan... god awful every single one of them!
Produce and design EV like this 308 and get the infrastructure sorted and we might just get there. Perhaps.
Nicola is the best car reviewer out there
Prices start at £40K ...
Too expensive, too slow
I'd rather have an EV that is less that £15k. Looks like I'm never going to get one then...
I will be in bed 🙃
Looks deadly dull and heavy handed to me - tiny windows and slab sides....
Feel sorry for the presenters having to polish the proverbial , as soon as the price was mentioned most normal people are priced out of buying eu evs , sorry but china builds better evs for 10 grand less than this , I just can’t get my head round how vw stallantis and others in Europe and USA think we’re all stupid
What £38,000, are they nuts? A new Tesla Model 3, 2024 MY, is £39,990!! Have Peugeot not heard of Tesla? When the new Tesla Model 2 comes in 2025 (or thereabouts) Stellantis aren't going to survive...................
42k for a Peugeot 308 1st Edition Bland Boring Electric or not Sorry
For 42k there are better cars
You end up with half baked electric cars... Not good enough, They're still living in the past, and gloss black looks ridiculously cheap and nasty, dark roof lineing looks terrible...
Too pricey, too slow too boring, too French
I'm waiting to test drive a volvo ex30... good price, fast, looks awesome 4k less than this tedious box 🙂
Fake exhausts on an EV is a dealbreaker, so sorry. And the battery is not more efficient, it's got a new motor.
Way over priced for an average car. This car costing 14k more than a petrol is not gonna convert the nation. I've had my polestar2 for a couple of years, same price, seems a lot more car for the money. I do think China and South Korea are pulling away in terms of what you can get for your money outside of Tesla.
Fake exhausts are annoying enough on a ICE car but on an electric car! Awful.
I don't think this modern design language is going to age well. Too "plasticky" looking.