Tesla Model 3 vs BYD Seal TESTED - Is Tesla’s newcomer already second best? | Electrifying
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The Tesla Model 3 kick-started the electric revolution in 2019 and remains a huge seller globally. But time doesn’t stand still and the US giant has just released a new, improved version that introduces new exterior design elements, longer ranges and an improved interior. It’s also (slightly) more affordable, with the entry-level model now back under £40,000.
But are the updates enough to keep the Model 3 at the top of the electric saloon sales charts? During its four year production run, Tesla hasn’t been short of rivals but has seen them all off pretty comfortably. The latest contender is from a brand that many won’t have heard of: BYD. Having launched in the UK with Atto 3 and Dolphin supermini, the Chinese giant actually sells more cars than Tesla and has big ambitions for its new European operation.
On paper, the two are very similar with 300+ mile ranges, loads of equipment and similar costs when bought on PCP finance (as 95+% of all new cars are). Join Ginny and Nicola as they pitch the two newcomers head-to-head to find which is the best package.
Do you agree? Which would you choose? Let us know in the comments below.
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The BYD Seal is a lot cheaper than the Tesla Model 3 here in Australia. I can't believe how much is being charged for the Seal in the UK. The Seal is a brilliant car - we're very happy with our purchase.
I’m picking mine up Feb 10th, any tips from your experience?
I question total cost of ownership. Repairs and parts may be a lot more expensive
Not that much cheaper around $5000 on road in Aus
But in Australia you are forced to "service" the BYD. Depending on how much you drive the BYD can be more expensive than the Tesla over a period of 5 years
They should have compared that is equally priced to Tesla to make a fair comparison.
C: Too many warning sounds!
BYD: Ok, I heard you.
C: I don't like the logo behind the car!
BYD: Ok, no problem.
C: Lower the price!
BYD: Sorry, your government doesn't allow me to do this.
Actually the price thing is rubbish. In Europe the BYD is also more expensive for the base version. It is a pricing choice and the dealership could lower it as it is a suggested price. They choose not to. And say it is because it is the first issue.
Spot on.
Apples and oranges mate. @@binitbob
Remember that China has far worse import taxes than western countries do. Remember very carefully who is the trading bully on the world stage. It's china if you look at all the barriers China has setup.
Bcause free trade and no tarrif is only when west could export goods, today its tarif ban tax ...
byd is the world's largest electric bus manufacturer, the world's second-largest battery manufacturer, sells far more cars than Tesla, and supplies batteries to Tesla factories. In addition, BYD is the only manufacturer in the world that is fully capable of producing all components of EV (except glass and tires), including the main chips required.
EVs are heavily reliant on the software. BYD is like running Windows 85 VS Teslas Windows 11 or Apples OS. The software matters bigly.
@@specialkcitizen6263No, lol.
@@specialkcitizen6263lmao then the us shouldn’t be so worried about BYD spying on their citizens 😂😂😂
@@specialkcitizen6263 Software not so much , America had electric cars from 1890s to 1920s
I’ve owned an AWD Performance Seal for 2 months it costs less than a RWD 3 here in Thailand. Fantastic car, great performance, luxury, refinement and no squeaks or rattles. You can access heated/cooled seats by dragging down from the top of the screen. The sunroof is silver coated and does a much better job than Teslas at reflecting heat. I have the V2L hooked up to my solar system to provide backup power to my house (videos on my channel for the doubters)
I’m sure the BYD is a great car but in the UK it starts at £5k more than the model 3 standard range which makes no sense ,fair enough the long range BYD seal is £1300 cheaper than the long range model 3 but from what I can see people are willing to pay that little bit more for the Tesla long range,the model 3 over here is a no brainer and pre-orders now are nearly 2 month waiting list so sales are very strong.
@@mhsohel47 wow UK, where the major industries are mostly owned by companies from 3rd world countries. Must be proud of that mate
@@alancobbinInterior is better, range is better, kit as standard is better etc…
@@alancobbinFunny, cause everwhere else in the EU they are in stock and can be delivered within 2 weeks (Hint: They are not selling the amount they are shipping out).
Read and travel more please dude.
Can't wait to test drive the BYD Seal in my country, will most likely be getting one next year. The quality and design of the BYD just looks more refined and better than the Tesla. Also BYD have the worlds safest EV Blade Batteries in the world.
Byd cars catches lot of fire in china. Search youtube and google.
@@amrindersingh3949 Well, so does Tesla and other EV cars, its just a unfortunate byproduct of Batteries. Although BYD have made it safer and will continue to do so.
The Model Y RWD from Berlin uses the same BYD blade battery. I'm not sure, but I think so does the Model 3 from China. In the US they use CATL blade for the LFP batteries.
So safe, in fact, that Tesla uses the exact same battery 😃
yeap, made by BYD @@Tresla
im mexican 33, and living in mexico. in my city of chinesca, mexico... BYD put 4 car factories in less than 2 years. the people are so happy cuzz the chinese gave 1000's of us mexicans jobs, which we never had before. plus, they sell great cars at very low prices, so us mexicans can all buy new BYD cars. but the main reason why china put many car plants in mexico, so they can enter the USA markets via the backdoors by mexico. very soon floods of chinese cars will in the states, yes, floods of chinese cars. however, this is a good thing, cuzz all car companies will have to lower their prices. this is a win win for all the people. thank you china & its wonderful people. bravo! bravo!
china is the future...
No, Chinese people don't want to sell cars to Americans. Some foolish companies that want to sell (love money and take risks) don't represent smart companies like BYD. Chinese people are very pragmatic and don't want America to go crazy.
A cuanto estan saliendo los BYD en pesos? Soy de Quintana Roo y todavía no los veo por aquí.
Cant go wrong with either, kind of like Merc vs BMW in the early 2000s, more comfort or more driving pleasure. Kind of silly BYD priced it so expensive in UK, not sure if it tariff thing, because in Australia Seal is 5-10K usd cheaper than the Base Model Tesla.
I'm pretty sure the UK government knows exactly why the BYD is priced higher than the Tesla Model 3 in the UK.
It's expensive because of extra tariffs they give to Chinese products, you know since your daddy USA does not like more advanced products from other countries especially the ones that are independent from USA colonial empire of lies and mental illness but hey at least you get ford EV and you can buy overpriced apple, good for u
In two months time, BYD will launch the standard range version of the Seal on the EU market.
This version will be cheaper than the Telsa Model 3 SR and have a slightly bigger battery.
it's over taxing to the BYD which I saw many European countries do to their product sell more easily😃😃
Import tax of 10% (on vehicle price and transportation cost) and sales tax of 20% on top of the import tax are standard for all cars imported into the EU. @@tashiyann3262
Not many videos start of with the line " This is such an interesting testicle"
😂😂😂😂 - I had to rewatch to make sure you were right.
Ginny knows what she's doing 😂
😂😂😂 "Test to call!"
I heard the same ... twice 😂😂😂
Just about to post the same!!😂
Seal is the most sporty car I ever drove. Its agility and handling are amazing. And I currently drive an Alfa Romeo.
My condolences about your piece of shit Alfa. lol
Tesla is like my grandpa's old Citroen back in the 60s, it's good but not in the public taste, while Seal honestly looks like a gorgeous modern sedan.
@@lucisleesion8824 the BYD looks like a Chinese knock off of the Tesla model three. Oh yeah, that’s exactly what it is.
@@lucisleesion8824 I think it's exactly the opposite I think the seal already looks really dated and the Tesla is modern and fresh - each to their own tastes I guess.
@@brettrun8575 a piece of shit can’t fly! And it’s you.
I've been reading about the regen on the Seal and it seems like they've implemented the regen through the brake pedal. When the pedal is first pressed it engages strong regen and blends the brakes in as needed. It appears this was aimed at people switching from ICE cars. It really is a matter of preference though, I'm on the side of what BYD have implemented to have more control of the car.
Sounds like how Zoe was set up.
@@i679n5 I think the Taycan is done the same way as well.
All EVs do that!
Same as in the Toyota CHR Hybrid we used to have. All Prius does as well. And I can confirm it is terrible in many ways. Tesla brake pads and discs on the other hand can last a lifetime
@@borinvlogs good to know, I came across info that this type of system can be more efficient than one pedal but can't recall where I saw that. I test drove the Seal and it felt completely normal to me that's why I recon it's going to be up to personal preference. Would be nice if BYD introduced an option for one pedal to suit all audiences 👌
Test drove SEAL in Australia over the weekend...Quite, Comfortable with excellent interior and driver ergonomics and driving dynamics. The minimalist approach of TESLA 3 is going to cost them "new" customers, coming from petrol and hybrid cars well used to buttons, indicators, head up displays and Apple car play and android auto. A driver still needs to feel in control, a driving pleasure. Overall, I think BYD wins on ride, buttons with phone integration and a strong design language. Tesla stays strong on charging network and a faster charging, I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla brings back some of it's lost functions in coming years
One thing to take into consideration is the updates you get with a Tesla. The BYD infotainment will be dated in 2 years whereas the Tesla will still be updated in 5 years and look relevant. (Check the Tesla infotainment 3 years ago and compare it to now). Also Tesla may not be in the best financial state, but it will likely stays around in the coming years, you can't say the same for Chinese's brands. Last point is the efficiency of the Tesla, in the coming years it will probably cost more to charge a car than to simply put fuel in it, so you may want the most efficient one. The BYD is not a bad, but it's a bet to buy one.
@@22Epicyou do know the BYD also have OTA updates don't you?
@@davidh7725. You don't what happened to Weltmeister don't you? Funny comment though.
I would guess that Giga Shanghai is already planning to add back those stalks, for the non US markets. A great car ruined by such a silly idea. There will be many Tesla owners who will now look elsewhere for their second EV and you can bet this stupid feature will stop any new buyers joining the Tesla family. I love my Telsa Model 3 (with stalks) but many people were already turned off by the minimalist interior, the missing stalks will be the last nail in the coffin.
@@22EpicBYD not going anywhere since they are making more than just passenger cars. BYD is one of the market leaders in BE bus and trucks. Tesla signed deal for Blade batteries and other automakers are following.
Absolutely love that. Perfect combination of serious reviews and light hearted mutual teasing. Fantastic
So pleased to hear (no pun intended) that BYD have softened the bings and bongs.
53k miles on a M3, extended test drive on the BYD Seal. The BYD is definitely a more comfortable car to travel in with great quality materials and ride comfort and sound insulation. I also think the BYD looks a bit better. The cabin and the seats are top quality and the exterior is also really nice, looks even better in person. But the M3 (even the old one) is just a bit more fun to drive. Its direct and darty (which I like) charges WAY faster, has the network and also a very large service network. The BYD is in its infancy, driving 100 miles to a service centre at the moment isnt ideal....UI wise the Teslas are also miles ahead. Menus make sense and are intuitive and grouped properly ie Climate/Display/Controls etc. The BYD has a bit of everything everywhere. Menus, pull downs, side swipes. That being said the Seals central screen is something special its so large and so crisp when navigating its a joy. Its also worth noting according BYD any Seals shipped before March come with the indicator on the right stalk and wipers on the left. My test car had this and was a nightmare to adjust to. Apparently the norm in other right drive markets. It also has the most aggressive lane departure system Ive ever seen (Even more aggressive than the MG4). Even an few inches left or right of centre it was dragging you all over the place. Can be turned off no doubt but needs adjusting. Id deffo still recommend it but I think it still needs some maturity and bug ironing to make it a sure thing. Most of that can be done through software so should be easy. Credit to them though honestly it rides as well a C Class/3 Series maybe even a smidgeon better. There arent many EVs that can do that. The new Tesla indicator is a no go for me too 🤣 the New M3 ups its quality considerably but not enough to tempt me for one either... so I'll be hanging on to my old M3 for now. If anyone has one, that would be my advice, especially if like me you still have ultrasonic sensors 🤣 (If you know you know....)
One of the rare reasonable replies on this video, great to hear your feedback taking into account your experience with both products 👌
ultrasonic sensors are a think of the past now tho, especially with the new vision only 3D parking assist in the new Christmas update
@@nifty6486 Still in its infancy and nowehere near accurate enough, also still cant see in front of the car..was more a joke about the USS being retro 🙂
I think this has to be one of the best videos since I subscribed many months ago. A more real world review with two different driver personalities and preferences. I agree with Ginny that Tesla has gone a tad too far with cost cutting on physical switches. Buttons for indicators are fine on a motorbike but not in a car, keep the fart sound though. I've no idea about how the wipers and screen wash are activated, if it's though the central screen or just auto wipers with wet salt on the roads I'd be a tad concerned about ending up with my teeth in a tree. When it's wet and salty on the roads I want manual control that's easy to use. Once again a cracking video both and thanks for sharing.
I think the BYD Seal will be a lot easier for ICE drivers to move to.
The Tesla is just too minimalist for most people.
Having said that, they've both out of reach for the average buyer, but will be OK in a couple of years when they halve in price 😂
EV are actually cheaper compared to similar powered ICE cars. My car is as fast as Lamborghini or Ferrari on pubic road for a friction of the price of a supercar.
@@borinvlogs haha
@@borinvlogsbut most only need the performance and interior space of a Honda Jazz and would be happy to have the EV advantages (no gearshifting, silence, preheat, charging at home) at a similar price of a used car. That will still take >5 years until cheap good electric cars are everywhere and the used market isn't as crap anymore.
Given that an ICE car has a short shelf life, you will find they will lose 75% after 2 years.
Who would want to buy an ICE car that is going to lose all its value in 2 years? when it gets to 4 years old - in 2028 its scrap value, you wont be able to sell it.
@@bricktop7803 Not sure where you get those numbers, but industry trend is 25-40% after 3 years.
There's a BYD showroom in Stockport. I might go and look at the Seal.
Well its great to see the Model 3 has a worthy competitor now! If I was buying now, I would certainly take a Seal for a test drive - although I would miss the one pedal driving (once you get used to the one pedal driving, its hard to go back as I find it more relaxing and efficient). Agree the removal of the stalks on the Tesla is a backward step, even if you do get used to it, its still not as good. As it is I have a 2022 Model 3 RWD, which has the stalks, so I'm more than happy to stick with it (as the stalk delete cancels the many benefits of the Highland for me)!
Yes backward is teslas middle name
Yes the stalk delete would be fine, if the new Model 3 had steer by wire like the cybertruck. That means you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel and then the buttons make sense. Now its a bit annoying, by the way i also own a 2022 model 3 RWD.
100% agree. If steer by wire was implemented, would make more sence to remove the stalks. The other “improvements” they made feels like more gimmicks than actual improvements
I guess Tesla will now be like BMW and Audi which may as well not have indictor stalks as they drivers never use them.....
@@djsslater 🤣
BYD seal will be launching soon in Malaysia and we expect it to be much cheaper than Tesla Model 3 Highland. Tesla won on supercharger, quicker accercelation and hype. BYD parts is cheaper for future considerations.😂
The true strength of US products is its religious-like fanboys, espeically for Tesla
I have the new Tesla, the capacitive buttons take a little getting used to, but 200km and no problems. Auto cancel works 95%of the time but so far even on UK roads no problem with signalling coming off roundabouts. Shifting is easy and use the atu select and that works 95% of the time. Latest update has massively improved parking visualisation. Over the last 1801 miles my average is 4.12miles/kW and that so far is driving primarily in the UK for the last 2 weeks. And 600 mile journey dead simple with the Tesla superchargers.
I looked at the BYD and noisier, softer, more expensive for the base model. (I got the RWD version of the Tesla) 262 miles in general per day covers all my needs and the 600 mile journey added 1 hour and that was because I needed to arrive with 70% charge as there was no destination charge until the following day. This was my first Ev and I think it was a good choice, though I do agree that the BYD does look nicer outside. 😊
Don't read the Tesla owner forums on the TM3 highland quality, it's an even greater letdown then before.
@@DBGE001 I had more of an issue with getting it delivered. The quality is very good certainly as good as the Mercedes cla that just went back to the lease Company. Despite being told it wouldn't come with charging cables or mats etc as it was just the RWD version it came with the gen 2 tesla charger and a type 2 cable and mats throughout.
I've driven it just shy of 2000 miles in the last 2 weeks and not a rattle or squeek in sight.
Yup, and they didnt mention the Tesla indicators self operate if you use the navigation software. The car indicates for you.
BYD voice control makes things easy to adjust settings.
It’s not just thinking about the indicator buttons…you can’t press the buttons on a roundabout if your hands are in the correct “10 to 2” position
I honestly thing the new insicator position will eventually rear it's head and become a legal issue for them........the same way Autopilot has in the States.
Been owning my Model 3 Highland for 2 months now. With both hands on the steering wheel, I experience no problem with this operation. Have lots of round abouts where I live, so I have had plenty of time testing. It all comes down to your seating, hand and finger position - after some training, it’s a deal breaker for me: I will never go back to stalks! 🙂
Please try before expressing plain feelings…😉
@@p3tT4n1 It's a bit like MacBooks a few years back. They removed all the ports and left you with a couple of USB C.
Apple said it's all people need.
Fast forward a couple of years and Apple re-introduced charging ports, HDMI and SD card slots.
Tesla will go the same way and bring back the stalks!
10-2 is old..technically 9-3 is the new agreed ideal hand position.
@@ninjarrow07 Indeed!
9-3, the same way a professional racing car driver would hold his/her hands, is the optimal way for controlling your car, which also happens to be the best way to do when using Teslas indicators.
Works great for me.
When I first viewed the video, I thought it is biased. Test driven a single motor Model 3 Highland and a Seal premium back to back this morning , and I must say I could not agree more with the comments and conclusions after the sessions. The ride quality and the user interaction interface of the Tesla are pathetic and lacks that of the Seal. Unfortunately Tesla Perth disable the lane keep, cruise control of the test car and so was unable to see how well it works though I was all along under the impression that it would be much better than the BYD. But until the Tesla Perth centre wise up and put their best foot forward in the competition, I have completely written off the Tesla. In Australia, it is a no brainer which car to buy. The Tesla is priced higher than the Seal!!
What a great review. None of the BS about 0-60 times and drag races. Just a lot of practical comparisons on things that would affect everyday driving.
I have just had the chance to sit in the Seal and inspect the interior and have a play around with the infotainment and controls. As a current Tesla Model 3 owner I was quite impressed. The seats are firmer but more supportive, and the HVAC system is much better. It is let down slightly by the lower resolution displays compared to the Tesla. How much would it really add to the cost to put a better quality display in the Seal?
Since the new (highland) version of the Model 3 was unveiled, I have been taking note of how often I use both the indicator stalk (including the washer/wiper button on the end) and the direction mode selector (gear stalk) in my current Model 3, without looking. I just know intuitively where the controls are. By the same token, the scroll wheels on the Model 3 steering wheel fall easily under your thumb and don’t require you to look for them like the buttons on the ‘conventional’ steering wheel of the Seal. I struggled with the lack of driver’s display in the Tesla so much, I have fitted an aftermarket HUD.
Seriously considering changing my Model 3 for a Seal next year. While the Supercharger network is good, 95% of my charging is at home.
The Seal 0-60 is 3.8 seconds, sorry Elon Musl's fanboy.
@@lucisleesion8824 The Seal hass slightly faster 0-60 than the M3 LR but the LR makes it up for a faster acceleration beyond 60 miles or 100km for a faster 1/4 mile. Both cars cost the same 50,000 pounds. Btw the M3 LR is better everywhere not just 1/4 mile. It is more practical with better build quality, better charging infrastructure and more reliable as well. It is also a more advanced vehicle having access to Tesla's FSD beta and all kinds of features for the future
@@ulikemyname6744 The tesla does not have higher build quality rather the opposite. Its also got more roadnoise compared to the seal even the highland version. Sure it got some advantages but not build quality and materials.
@@UgglemannenFTW When it comes to material quality Tesla now has the advantage. As for build quality, Tesla pushed hard with the refresh, make the manufacturing more efficient and the overall quality increased significantly to a point where it doesn't matter anymore.
@@ulikemyname6744 Its better than the old model 3 but not better than the seal. It is still higher noise levels in the tesla.
Don't really know how long you have driven the new model 3, but I can tell you out of experience that the stalks thing is not as big of a deal as it is being made out to be. After using them for a couple of weeks muscle memory takes over and it all goes automatically. Even things like roundabouts are no problem at all. I'm not saying it is a good design choice, it's just not as big of a deal as some people are making you believe it is.
it really is a problem. Muscle memory versus physical ability of a human.
Switching indicator direction very quickly while the steering wheel is in some random position seems a decent challenge
I agree with you Ginny...indicator buttons on the steering wheel are ridiculous...I would go so far as to say downright dangerous. As for no binnacle or head up display...the same, dangerous, if you have to take your eyes off the road to see the Speedo...well I'm not even sure that's legal!
As you can tell I am officially an old fogey having turned sixty-five this year!😅
Did you actually state the prices of both, think I missed it?
Great show, good vibes from you two.👍
I don't get the big deal about the lack of "binnacle" moving your eyes slightly down and left if really not much different to moving them down to a binnacle.... sure it is a change but once you adapt it no different.... . I guess it is big deal for first time drivers but once you drive a Tesla every day it really is not. The reviewer comically moving her head to the left is just for show, not a reality.
@@djsslater that's fine but wearing glasses makes the head movement just slightly more. Not dissimilar to the movement required for nearside (UK) wing mirror agreed but after forty five years of just dropping ones eyes down for speed info it's a difficult and unnecessary adjustment. There's also the fact that it's a bright screen which requires more refocussing after you've looked at it. Not for me, but then I did say I was old!
Great to see a car podcast by two women!!! Unfortunately, I disagree with the reviews of both the M3 and the Seal. If the Seal is anything like the Atto 3, the one pedal driving sux and the whole experience is too 'legacy' for the sake of being less of a 'jump'. No mention of the lack of autosteer and sentry mode. No mention of the double glazed windows, suspension etc. And the supercharger network is not 'one of the best', it is clearly the only decent network! There just isn't any comparison with other networks.
This review really comes across as people who haven't spent enough time with the vehicles. Agree, the design 'looks' great but looks are worth so little in reality.
Nice to have a review on the RWD Seal, as most reviews are on the AWD version, but finally a few are coming through on the RWD version.
Interesting how in the UK the Seal costs more than the Tesla. Here in Australia the Mid spec Seal with the larger battery (as in this review) is ~AUD 4k cheaper than the entry level M3 Highland.
Prices vary as well. The on road (driveaway) cost of the two BYD Seal versions here in AUS that are the same as in the UK (although we have a cheaper entry level Seal down here as well) are Seal Premium 230kw motor with larger battery at ~AUD63k (~33.5 GBP) and the Performance 390kw motor AWD (Excellence) ~AUD73k (~39k GBP) The entry level Seal with a 150kw motor (same as in the Atto 3) and 18 inch wheels is ~53k driveaway.
I totally agree with the comment on lack of one pedal driving. Perhaps it could be added in a software update (or perhaps not that simple?) I drove an MG4, where you could select one pedal mode in the menu. But it was too severe. Needs a slider control for personal preference within certain parameters. Tesla have it pretty much right. I also recently drove the M3 update and was quite impressed and am waiting to drive the Seal before ordering.
LOL, yes, the M3 does feel a bit like driving a robot. Just a bit too minimalist for me, but still nice.
I have an ICE car with indicators on right hand side of steering wheel. Recently test drove M3 MY and Seal. The M3 indicators where easier than MY for me to adjust to. Seal was nice but too busy, not as efficient or refined but nice enough. Still I ordered a M3 based on the test as i feel its a better option here in Australia as the Supercharger network is so good and ever expanding. You probably can't go wrong with either.
Same here, I'm not a Tesla fanboy or anything. I needed an electric car to replace my old ICE car and test drive a whole lot of cars from M3 Highland, MY, Atto 3, MG 4 and Seal....
While I hated the idea of no stalks, it wasn't as bad as I initially thought it might be... Definitely need to get used to it and maybe in edge cases where you need to turn immediate right and left or vice versa might be difficult, but the overall experience across all these cars led my wife and I to go with M3....I still can't understand the comment from the reviewer that M3 is like driving a robot???
Don't read the Tesla owner forums on the TM3 highland quality, it's an even greater letdown then before.
@@DBGE001 ive actually drove both cars mate the Tesla is fantastic.
You can't be talking about a M3 Highland coming from regular ICE car stalks?? honestly the indicator buttons are borderline dangerous having to take your eyes off the road to find them. even when everyone says "get used to it. get used to it." why. whats the point when a stalk is the easiest, most intuitive solution. its backwards going to buttons
@@broombroom3208 What I said was the buttons are easier than a left side stalk for me. Would you rather I engage cruise and going zooming across the oncoming traffic when i'm turning right. I didn't need to take my eyes off the road at all to press the buttons. If you want stalks don't buy a Highland simple as that but my opinion is based on actually driving the cars and would prefer buttons to left stalk blinkers.
Looking over to the screen for speeds is so annoying and dangerous,also indicators are ridiculous on the steering wheel
that;s what Ferrari and lamborghini have been doing for decades
Use your voice on the BYD
As someone who was weighing up the Model 3 Highland and Seal Performance for a long time it came right down to test driving a Model 3 for my decision to be made.
I’ve now owned my Seal Performance for almost 2wks and basically my thoughts echo Ginny and Nicola’s to a tee. In Australia the Seal is priced significantly less than the Euro and UK markets and in a lot of reviews I’ve seen from those markets, the Seal’s high pricing has been its biggest negative but it’s great to finally see an objective review instead of the typical Tesla bias in a lot of reviews.
This video has certainly triggered many Tesla fans!!
As someone in Australia comparing the same models, what tipped the balance for you if you don’t mind saying?
@@newbris I test drove the Model 3 RWD and LR for 45mins each. There’s absolutely no doubts there’s a huge upgrade over the previous Model 3 and does everything better.
The main talking point is obviously the stalk removal. Gave them a good workout in varying scenarios and while they weren’t really an issue and it took minimal time to get use to them there were times where they were simply an inconvenience and these situations can’t be avoided based simply on hand/wheel positioning.
Ride comfort and cabin noise improvements are certainly noticeable on smooth roads but still got some noise at highway speeds.
The main issue but not really an issue given it’s in beta was the auto-gear selector. Only got to try it a few times but on a couple of occasions it made the wrong selection and if you were none-the-wiser it could be a rather ominous outcome. I have seen previous videos where Tesla Vision has grossly misjudged objects and measurements so hopefully there’s improvements there.
The other things I’m not a big fan of: gear selection on the centre screen, exterior looks, everything on the centre screen and completely minimalist look and feel.
Overall I was impressed with the upgraded Model 3 but ultimately, I still prefer the look of both the interior and exterior of the Seal and for the money, I still can’t go past it. The (Tesla) RWD in my preferred config would be $70K ($64K after the rebate) and the LR would be $80K while the Seal Performance is $72K.
In terms of the lack of stalks in the new Teslas, I don't have an issue with the gear selector being on the screen, but I also do not like the steering wheel buttons. I think they jumped the gun on that and those buttons should only be paired with cars with drive by wire like the Cybertruck. If I'm going to get a next generation Tesla that will all have indicator buttons on the steering wheel, it will have to be with steer by wire.
I hope regulations are coming to make an indicator stock obligatory. It is just not safe in a country with roundabouts. All safety related items should always be in a familiar position imho, what's next, removing the brake panel and go to full one panel driving? Or place the brake in a button on the steering wheel.
I probably know the reason for it, is that the development team for the steer by wire for the Model 3 wasn't finished but the steering wheel itself was and the deletion of the stalks. Sadly that probably didn't sync up and you have this. WHen you have steer by wire it all makes sense. (Look at how steer by wire works at the cybertruck.)
@@deejac9065Nah the solution for it is steer by wire. (In which you don't have to fully rotate the steering wheel like a normal wheel.) Go look it up how it works, the cybertruck has it.
@HermanWillems Again another item which should be thought of more thoroughly. What if all systems fail for whatever reason, you always should be left with safety controls; brake, steering, and door open. Although they might lose power, if you press the brake, you build up hydraulic pressure and slow down. The same goes for steering, although heavy, you can always steer yourself away from danger.
@@HermanWillems That's variable steer by wire that first appeared on a Lexus. I don't believe Lexus removed stalks however. Tesla decided to do so.
Having had my Tesla 3 go into one of their centres twice because the speedometer disappeared off the infotainment screen when being driven and then went into a hard re-set multiple times there is too much of an emphasis with functions on the infotainment screen. Now they seem have put the gear selector on the infotainment screen and the gear selector on the steering wheel. With the problem i had i would have been stuffed in selecting a gear if the infotainment screen was blank. With BYD in the UK now and Nio probably coming soon the range of choice of ev's is increasing and more to consider. The only thing in the Tesla's favour is the super charger network.
No you wouldn't, there's a back up gear selector that uses buttons up by the cabin lights
The Nio ET5 is 6k more expensive and requires a monthly rent of the battery or another 12k to buy the (smallest) battery with the car.
teslas are more pretier but not the best or practical
@@tonypaca3015 that's an interesting view, in what way are they less practical?
@@patmanrick the M3 provides two inconvenient gear selectors? I'd rather just a single standard one.
Can we fold seat in seal like model3 to sleep in the night if we want to do so?
I spent a long time mulling over both options and have (or had) a deposit on and test drove both:
I preferred the tm3 throttle response which I found to be instant, the seal had some delay (I was in sports mode for both)
The seal cannot compete with Tesla sentry mode, if you’ve used it before you’ll know what you’re missing. The seal in my country does not ship with a dash cam. The Dealer suggested I buy a 3rd party dashcam
Premium connectivity for relatively unlimited RUclips Netflix streaming when travelling with the kids vs a 2gb data cap on the seal (albeit free),
my head hit the roof in the rear seat of the seal, not so the m3 (I’m 6’4),
seal performance is 7k more expensive than the m3lr. (Shouldn’t it be the other way around being the challenger)
What I liked from the seal - imo slightly better driving position, heads up display (note that I couldn’t get the steering wheel in a position I liked with out obscuring the second display), vtl, tow rating of 1500kg. vs 1000kg on the Tesla.
On balance going I’ll be going ahead with the M3 long range due to driving dynamics and software, 7k cheaper. Very close call though.
this is the review i been waiting for. no sugar coding just facts
Looks like a great car from BYD, sadly lacking a charging infrastructure which is a huge part of the Tesla offering. Their name is actually nothing to do with dreams it was originally Yadi Electronics Bi was added to give them an advantage in location in trade shows but I guess Bi-Yadi dreams just doesn’t sound as good to us westerners !
Can't you charge a BYD or other Kind of ev cars on a Tesla Supercharger in Australia???
Normaly the Supercharger network should be accessible to every EV now in the UK.
In China they called this BYD car also Burn Your Dreams because so many BYD cars most likely with NCM went up in flames. The new blade batteries however i think are good, but have lower energy density than CATL LFP cells which are technically better than BYD LFP cells.
@@HermanWillems I really like the car but without a dedicated charging network where the price is set by BYD then it’s either a small battery version for City dwellers plus a much larger battery ensuring users can travel from home to destination and back again without needing the hugely expensive Fast-Charger network.
I guess about 450 to 550 miles would make it the same as the ICE vehicle it replaces, home charging would be a must to avoid the rip off costs here in the UK for using the likes of Shell or Ionity etc. The only reasonably priced super chargers being Tesla who own, operate and set their own pricing which is much more realistically priced when comparing the cost per Kw of energy right now….and it can only go down in price
@@HermanWillems maybe you dont know that they dont speak english
Honestly I don’t get the fuss with changing gear on the screen. It’s very easy and intuitive, actually easier than some of those twist or knobs ones.
It's a bit of a BYD commercial. If it was cheaper, I would understand but why? They BYD is more for people's first dive into electric that want the confort of knowing that things have not changed much. The Tesla is more for people that want the future now.
It was a great review as usual from you guys - gals - you know who you are! Definitely not keen on the stalkless Tesla Model 3 update. Used to love pulling down on the right stalk to go forward, upwards to go into reverse. Ditto with the indicators even though for me, an Australian, they were on the wrong side. The lack of regen for me is a serious drawback. I have an Atto 3 and it's absolutely pathetic. I wish it could just be software selectable and the driver could chose their preference, low or high regen - I mean proper high regen like Tesla offers, not high regen as offered by BYD currently.
Agree the regen is my main complaint with BYD, I also have an ATTO3. I have ordered a Seal performance. Drove a demo mid-range yesterday and the transition was effortless.
So If I win the lottery AND BYD starts selling in the States, I'd go with the Seal and hope for OPD update in the future.
The reason why BYD doesn't offer 1-Pedal driving is because the majority of the drivers simply don't like this feature. It feels unnatural to most people. I am sure after getting used to it, more people might be OK with this feature. BYD did actually incorporate the regenerative braking benefit of "1-Pedal Driving" into the braking system itself. In the BYD Seal, the regen kicks in when you first step on the brake pedal. The actual friction braking will eventually take over if the braking force required exceeds the regen capability. BYD's system works flawlessly. The ultimate goal is to recuperate as much kinetic energy as possible, and the regenerative braking system in the BYD Seal achieves this efficiently. All drivers are used to "coasting" as a natural part of driving. BYD wanted to preserve this feeling, and I am so glad they did that. One of BYD's major goal has always been to make the transition from ICE cars to EVs as seamless as possible. That's why they outsell all their competitors in China by a huge margin (including Tesla).
I just don't understand why BYD can't offer One Pedal Driving as a software option. You just go into vehicle settings and select the Regen tab and select the level which suits you - the driver - the best. This way, everyone wins. Those who would like greater Regen can have this easily whilst those who are not that keen on the feature, can chose little or no regenerative braking. After driving a Tesla Model Y, I definitely know which I level I would set.
@@LouDeVereFor secure driving concern.Two pedels but only use one is a disaster.
@@franktongzi1430 My regular daily driver is a Tesla but we also have ICE cars in the family - once you get used to 1 pedal driving it's fantastic, I actually detest having to get back into an ICE car without it - it just feels wrong now not to have it. There is a second pedal BTW.
Love Nicola’s funny and honest opinion. Good job girls👍🏻
Drove a middle range Seal yesterday and believe it will suit nearly everyone. Tesla has great technology but too minimalistic for me, particularly the indicators and gear shift. So ordered a Seal performance.
You will regret that choice.
A nice and useful review. However, you didn't mention the sound system in either car! Model 3 has had a great reputation for a nice sound system. Does the latest version still have that? And, how does the Seal compare? Also, can you play music from a USB stick? All Teslas had a data ready usb port for this until they removed them a couple years ago. Does the Seal have such a port? I switched from a 2022 Model S to a 2023 BMW i4 so I could continue to play my music library from a USB stick.
I have never been in the Tesla......but I can tell you that the Dynaudio system in the BYD is rather good............and yes, it has a data port with a native media player.
The quality of the Audio in a car would also be a deal breaker for me.
You can still play music from a USB on a newer Model 3, but it requires some trickery. If you're comfortable with computers, you could replace the sentry USB stick in the glovebox with a larger device, ideally a "real" SSD (which use higher quality flash memory that's far more durable than any USB stick). Connect it to a computer and format it with two partitions, one for sentry and another for music.
Or you can connect a hub in the glovebox USB port, use one port for the sentry USB stick and another for your music. Tesla explicitly advises against this, however.
Finally there are aftermarket USB port modules for the centre console which give you more ports including one which supports data connections.
@@sjwright2 I actually tried the USB hub approach in my Model Y but couldnt get it to work. My solution was to insert my music USB where the sentry stick normally is, and just live without sentry mode. The other approaches you mention are above my pay grade. I am not happy with Tesla since the bean counters took over and are saving a few pennies by putting a power only usb in the center console where there used to be a data ready usb in prior years. This is analogous to Tesla saving some money by removing the turn signal and shifter stalks. I am not a fan of those changes either.
@@wilber8260...people have mobil phones with lots of storage and bluetooth... can create music directory with flac (or some higher quality mp3) on the phone... or use some higher quality streaming service... like TheJazzGroove or even Deezer premium and the likes... i used to use those usb sticks to carry music to the car, but i abandoned it years ago and connect with bluetooth...
When Tesla was the first to the EV market with their Model 3, I didn't like its exterior design. Interior-wise, it was a revolution to most cars, I like the idea but it looks too plain. Then came BYD Seal, I felt it is much more interesting in every way than Model 3.
The BYD Seal looks like a cheap Chinese knock off of a Tesla model 3. Oh wait, that’s exactly what it is lol.
I liked the review a lot but I think that you just aren't that aware of how far advanced Tesla is over any electric car at the moment. All the cameras, sentry mode, dashcam, autopilot with all its features, one pedal driving, collision avoidance front and back as it tries to avoid that car that will hit you from behind and the front, it tightens your seatbelts before the crash. High fidility park assist, Tesla's Google maps, navigation system is far superior as it also calculates how many people are going to the charging station during your long trips. Display at the back with their own bluetooth connection. None of this is present in the BYD. Putting it into analogy, it's as if BYD is Android and Tesla is iPhone.
Yes cars very hard to compare now. M3 has no sensors though and cameras can’t perform all the required features yet so some are off at the moment, no? BYD has Birds Eye View for example.
Tesla is a Chinese startup to boost US economy due to the trade deficit. BYD supplies all the parts or shares the patent. In a nutshell, Tesla is the first Chinese EV to hit the global market.
chinese startup???@@alphaomega1969
@@alphaomega1969 Are you drunk?? i think you mean BYD. Tesla is NOT chinese.
Great! I much much prefer Android to iPhone.
Does the Seal use heat pump for heating or resistance heaters?
Heat pump, I believe
Yes, it comes with a heat pump.
Why did the sound levels from road noise sound so much louder in the Seal if it is quieter?
not sure, the new Model 3 fastly is improved. Might be better now than the Seal. While the older model 3 might be slightly worse than the seal.
Driving on two different roads, some road surface make more noise than.others, the BYD is quieter than the Tesla, already in China they are
@@ottowillumnielsen9083 but the BYD has no long term reliability test and we dont know how the service is. Its a big Risk buying the BYD while i know from 10+ people in my direct surrounding that they almost have zero problems with their Tesla's. And constantly get proper updates. So the reliability is there. We dont know anything about the BYD. So tell me why would i risk my hard earned cash money on something unproven. While i can get the Tesla where they have proven reliability and efficiency.
Because it isn't quieter. The Model 3 is much quieter.
22kWh home charging is nice to have but not many homes in the UK have the 400v 3 phase power supply necessary for a 22kWh charger.
Interesting take, I disagree with the reviewers opinion on the road feel and handling of the 2 cars - the new Tesla is superior to the BYD, not that the BYD is bad it's pretty good as well, I just can't understand how anyone who has driven both cars can possibly say the BYD has superior road manners to the Tesla.
I think they are similarly quiet, the Tesla definitely has more storage room, and the Technology implementation is vastly superior to the BYD despite the BYD having a few more features like 360 view etc. We don't have any longitudinal evidence on durability yet so hard to tell but as cars they are pretty close but the Tech and cabin for me swing it in favour of the Tesla - the BYD interior is more familiar to people coming from ICE cars so some may find it less confronting but I personally like the fact that the Tesla has no buttons and dials outside of the screen and steering wheel.
The lack of stalks on the Tesla was a bad idea this brings the BYD back into play - overall as cars I think they are pretty close - (personal styling preferences aside I think the new Tesla is massively better looking than the BYD which I think already looks really dated)
The thing that swings the equation big time back in Tesal's favour is tech & charging - with the latest update the Tesla will gather all of the data for all other Tesla's following similar routes to your journey and using AI will detrmine the best charger & charging strategy to get you to your destination in the shortest possible time by aggregating all of the information it has on who is likely to reach chargers at what time and for how long they will spend there. BYD are nowhere near this level of sophistication - but in Australia they are also $3k cheaper like for like and they also have a $10k cheaper base model - tough choice but I would go with the Tesla (and even more so if it had stalks)
One of the heavy criticism of BYD Atto3 by this channel was the lack of physical switch, and for Tesla with zero switch, the comment is “you have to lean to use it”, lol.
I had to rewind this a couple of times at the beginning as I genuinely heard, 'This is such an interesting testicle ..... '. 😳😳 After the initial shock I enjoyed the rest of the video and would gladly own either one of the two cars.
Yes, I agree with your view that BYD Seal is a better choice.
I've just ordered the Tesla model 3 RWD as my next company car. You have a fair point about the car overall though, there are much better electric cars out there.
My decision was swayed entirely by the supercharger network.
I'll do a 250 mile day once or twice a month for work, and then UK holidays on top of that too.
To try and find a decent working charger somewhere unfamiliar without it costing a fortune is rather difficult.
Now in 4 or 5 years when I pick my next company car, I hope that the charging network has improved where charging won't be such a worry and I can comfortably choose another car manufacturer.
Brexit (and the Tory government) killed the swift rollout of the EV charging networks.
@@DBGE001 EU now has a guideline to countries to have every 60km at least one super charger or something.
The drive selector is also above you by the rear view mirror. Agree on the stalks though, that will out so many people off buying one or replacing their existing M3 with one.
Yes, I think a lot of reviewers aren't aware of the "emergency selector buttons" on the roof in case the screen fails. They are also an option if you don't like the slider thing on the screen I guess.
@@Paul-ow9dd On the contrary, a lot reviewers are, they’ve mentioned it in almost every Tesla review I’ve watched
Drive in roudabout country NL, took me a month to get used to the new indicators. When it is a small roundabout I use my right hand to press the bottom button to exit. Sometimes I use the stalks in the other car, but it feels strange now. The indicators kind off feel more natural.
That's the thing about most humans: We have the ability to learn and to adapt to new situations. But there are those who never made the transition from the pin to the button - or from the button to the zipper...
@@narphizoid No matter how you dress it, removing the indicator stalk is absolutely ridiculous
Thank you for your well-done review!
Are the safety ratings of both cars available? Haven't found anything to compare yet.
Seal has done ENCAP this uear. Pre facelift Tesla did the NCAPin 2019 so can't really compare because the standards were quite a bit tougher when the Seal was tested.
Both got 5* for their respective years though
Great review. Thank you!
You mention that too much functionality is through the screens on both cars, and I agree.
I haven't driven either of these cars, but I've driven a lot of previous model Model 3s and a lot of BYD Atto 3s.
On those cars, I found that the lack of buttons was far more of a problem in the Tesla than in the BYD, even if you don't allow for the BYD having more non-screen controls. The BYD's voice recognition was excellent, so you could say, "turn off air conditioning, set fan speed to 2, and set temperature to 18 degrees" for example, and it would do it.
The Tesla's voice control was hopeless. The Tesla showroom guy (this is in Australia) told me he could only get it to work if he put on an American accent. I have a northern English accent and it couldn't understand me, whereas I have no problem at all in the BYDs.
I'd still prefer buttons. But the BYD offers a more usable alternative to the screen than the Tesla does.
I had a similar experience testing a MY in Australia. I tried to lower the temp setting as it was getting really warm under that roof, but couldn't find the temp adjustment on the screen. It kept taking me to the climate window where you can adjust everything except temp. I then tried voice commands (I despise voice commands even when they work) to lower the temp setting and the car navigation rerouted me to Islamabad. I had to pull over to reset the nav to take me back to the Tesla dealer.
The kicker in all this is...I am an American! I have a midwestern accent, and it still misunderstood me.
I'm hoping car manufacturers will eventually realise that massive touch screens are not the answer. They've seen Tesla do it, and they sold boat loads of them, so they must be doing it right! Right? No. As a consumer, it's not what we want. Buttons are the answer. Far more intuitive and safer while driving. I own a model 3 and find the touch screen to be great at a standstill. Like playing on an iPad. But while driving it's way too distracting, and easy to miss the button that you were trying to press. Same thing with the door handles. Elon Musk might be a rocket scientist, but most of my friends aren't, and are made to feel like idiots when they can't figure out how to get in my car. I don't want to have to give all my passengers a tutorial on how to get in and out of the car 🤣
Good, good, good for BYD to be accredited in UK
Interesting to note that in Australia there are 3 versions, the Dynamic, the Premium and the dual motor AWD version of the Seal instead of the 2 in the UK. The Dynamic (entry model has a 61Kwh battery and is RWD only and sells at just over A$48,000. The Premium and the AWD versions have 85Kwh batteries with the Premium RWD version having roughly 60 Km more range than the dual motor AWD version. The Premium is also around A$10,000 less expensive than the AWD version, selling at just over A$58,000.
Thank God BYD tamed all the dings and warnings. That would have been a deal killer for me.
I think you two make a very good duet. The chemistry between the two of you is fantastic!
I hope you host more episodes together!
Well done review ladies!
ruclips.net/video/y-f9mLCxgrw/видео.htmlsi=C5tWU5BuTF4flvmX. This review is better than these two girls
Since MOST people don't indicate nowadays..........
What was the efficiency in Kw/h for the seal? Never said unless I missed it
They said they were both similar
It is still the same old same old. Advertised 310 mile range and you get 250 miles in Winter.
I dont have any range anxiety My last car was an ICE and I would top up when it got to half tank.
It is the same with my current EV - top up when I get to half tank.
The EV does give an accurate range in miles. The petrol tank in an ICE car is just too inaccurate.
BYD is going to be one to watch going forward. I don’t think they are a threat to Tesla, but Ford, Stelantis and VW should be very scared.
Yeah, absolute agree.
They’ve recently outsold Tesla globally.
I don't like clicking a video in my subscriptions to find it's only a trailer, rather just have the actual video when it's ready.
agreed.
I heard an interesting comment from my San Jose, CA friend about those turn signals: "I'm really using them that much anyway, so if they are on the steering wheel I suppose they are just fine.." ?? "I always use the FSD beta, it works flawlessly for me on my work trips. So if and when I update to buy a new Tesla I don't care if it has the stalks or not. " Well yeah, I suppose that makes sense in the future if there are more FSD cars that give you space when you want to change lanes.
I drove 240km in the Shenzhen area yesterday and thought what if the turn signals were on the steering wheel. It works most of the time because you need to put the turn signals on while still driving straight,, But there are those occasions when you need to put the signal on when the steering wheel buttons are at 3 o'clock while going left and you are ready to put the signal on to turn right. Then you just push the turn signal button on the left, right? Awkward.
Curious is it possible to turn on heated seat using voice command for byd?
Yes
Great to see a UK review of a Tesla vs anything that doesn't seem to have been sponsored by Tesla.......or carried out by Tesla fanboys (yes "Whatcar".....I'm talking about you)
Great review, keep up the good (impartial) reviews
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Excellent 👌 review 🎉
You had me at "THIS IS SUCH AN INTERESTING TESTICLE"
Enjoyed the video.
Love the Seal so much. Looked at a model 3 but this has so many more features on the Seal. It's just far better and 10x more practical than the Model 3.
Software looks like ass tho. Gaudy as well.
Nah, features like entertainment, sound system, drive train, acceleration, etc., Model 3 is the best, and if reviewed professionally and honestly
Tesla M3 Highland's front definitely took design cues from the Seal especially the lights.
If the BYD was cheaper, it would be a contender. But nobody in their right mind would pay more for it. As an overall package of a 'car', it competes - but as an 'electric car' (charger availability / charging speed / route planner integration / efficiency), Tesla are still head and shoulders above everyone else.
BYD is now the market leader in EV sales. So people are buying them more so than Tesla, even with higher price tag.
I would have loved to see the Sentry mode, Dog mode or entertainment options like RUclips Netflix autopilot and its phone app plus games and rear screen and safety ratings on the BYD to see how they compare.
Easy software upgrade.
Tesla model 3 basically is a cost cutting vehicle. BYD Seal felt more solid and planted from recent test drives.
Very honest review. BYD 100% better than Tesla
Where you dropped as a baby?
@@Monkstameth oh the irony. It’s *were you dropped as a baby…
Heated AND cooled front seats in the Tesla just so everyone knows. That is comfort in the summer and winter.
How is the charging network in the UK for BYD vs Tesla?
Nothing comes close to the Tesla charging infrastructure. It's by far the cheapest and easiest to use. Not to mention how unreliable many of the other cargers are.
Even here in the US more cities are installing traffic circles or what some call roundabouts. And the lack of stalk in the Model 3 to signal a turn out of circle will become problematic even for us Yanks. What is Tesla thinking are they next going to get rid of the steering wheel and just use a joy stick like what was used in WW I aircraft.
Of course not. They wouldn't go so far as to replace the wheel with a joystick. That would be ridiculous. They will replace the wheel with a space on the touchscreen. Swipe-to-Steer!
(Don't worry, they will also allow voice commands to steer if you don't like the touchscreen) ;)
I believe the things your are installing in the US are still roundabouts. Traffic circles are things you had many years ago with different rules and were bad for accidents, hence the US's unjustified hatred of real roundabouts. Or so I saw on a RUclips video anyway....
Your right most of what is being installed here in the US are roundabouts but traffic circles are still being installed are in in use in the US. Though now they are controlled in many cases by traffic lights. Not sure what RUclips video you are speaking of, but there is movement in many states including red states that are installing roundabouts, It's of course for safety, traffic calming in residential communities and the costs incurred for traffic lights. And while there is some vocal opposition, towns have found and stuck by roundabouts because of the savings and safety Just to show that while there is opposition one place one would not think would have the most roundabouts is a red state. in community of of Carmel Indiana.
Roundabouts are fantastic so long as people know how to use them properly.
I am so with Ginny; the indicator buttons on the steering wheel are frustratingly awful - I hate it! And it gets even worse on the yoke, as you can't feed it as easilly arround with both hands. Every round-about becomes an indicator nightmare. And I do think that Nicola is right about the Tesla being more robot than car. It is very good at what it is doing, but with a complete lack of enjoyment to it. Styling-wise, it is nice but not interesting. - And the fart-noises... give me a break. If it was animal-noises like a chimp, cat or a dog, then maybe I would find that somewhat amusing, but fart-noises... I am not 5 years anymore. Apart from Teslas supercharger network, I think the BYD is the more attractive option here; looks better and seems to be more involving to drive - not to mention it got a real indicator stalk. BTW, I do think the general Electrfying audience is informed enough of EVs in general to have heard of BYD before. I saw my first one ten years ago: a taxi at the Barcelona Airport, and the Atto 3 has become such a massive hit here in Sweden even my parents (who are not into cars at all) know what a BYD is.
You hate it? Have you tried it? If not allow me to ignore your comment…
I don’t understand your comment about lack of enjoyment at all… I’ve driven a lot of cars and EV’s, and the M3 is the most enjoyable to drive by far…
@@mconnah1 I haven't tried putting my hand in boiling water but I can still predict it's a bad idea and I'm not going to like it
Car designed in California........they don't really use roundabouts in the USofA (or as they say.......traffic circles)
A design oversight if ever there was one.
Tesla fanboys defending insane decisions to get rid of indicators! And yes I’m a model 3 owner.
Great review !! I drove the new Tesla model 3 and touch buttons for turn signal are annoying and makes you to think twice to figure out which direction the signal needs to blink. Better to have the previous stalk version which doesn't require to think twice for a simple action. Also agree 100 % Tesla need the HUD display for easy speed look.
A fair and decent review. However I would be surprised if the efficiency in cold weather would be as good as you claim. I see an over 20% drop in efficiency in cold weather in my Genesis Electrified G80....
Genesis use LG batteries I believe which are far inferior to the BYD LFP battery.
Does it have a heat pump?? (genuine question......I don't know)
Yes it does have a heat pump which kicks in when you select a charger as your destination, or so I believe! I am certainly experiencing the range degradation that cold weather brings to an EV. In the summer driving in France at the faster max speed -130kmh (81mph), I could easily achieve 300 miles if I ran the battery down to close to 10%, the same journey a couple of weeks ago, it would be more like 220 miles range.
Whilst here in the UK on typical variable speed limit motorways - so 50 60 or 70mph in warm Weather would easily see 3.5 or higher miles per kWh.
However Genesis like its parent companies EV's offer upto 350 per kwh charging speeds, although i've never seen that in reality...
Even if the car has a heatpump, you must know that every EV has also a resistance heating element (yes also the EV's with a heatpump). This element is typically used to get the car interior up to temperature in a fast (but energy carnivorous) way. @@keithshayle7027
@@06younger It's not IF it has a heatpump. But also the correct efficient implementation of it. The implementation and efficiency is where the Tesla shines and outperforms everything else in the car space. It's the best HVAC system in the automotive industry.
Great down to earth review and I was interested in the Tesla -mainly due the improvements over the first model - especially with the Tesla charging network until no indicator stalks! - cost cutting gone too far for British roads and roundabouts 😢
yeah, worth looking at other reviews tho if this is the case, there is a ton (and I mean a litteral ton) of things that they didn't cover and also the M3 charges at 250kw not 170 as they said in the video
Ludicrous Feed drove M3HL at night and sequential indicating on left right corners was a mess
@@nifty6486 Given the mention of low price, I'm guessing this was the entry level M3, which does charge at 170kW
peak charging is meaningless, the variable that counts is time needed to charge from 10 to 80%, and there both cars are qiute close to each other. @@nifty6486
6:23 Weird. I saw another review and they said the BYD materials felt very cheap compared to the Tesla. Also the display(s) get partially hidden by the steering wheel.
You can change the gears on the roof of the Tesla. The buttons are hidden between the interior lights. Initially designed for when the display doesn't work.
Yes I saw 2 reviewers and they both said the BYD had worse build quality.
Autofugeful German channel said excellent quality on Seal
I saw a review mentioning i too (whatcar I think) - but that review was very superficial. But thats the odd one out. Almost all other reviews, Ive looked, commend the Seal for the build and feel.
Yes, that was the recent "WhatCar" propeganda film.........(sponsored by Tesla or just made by a trio of Teslarati 🙄)
I have driven the Seal and I can tell you the qualty of interior material and build quality is right up there with (almost) the best that Europe can offer.
People can check out the interior of both the Tesla and BYD Seal them self and then see the reviewer you watched either were hired to "review it" or simply own Tesla stocks which is the case for quite a few.
U both do excellent reviews
Can’t believe you actually honestly think the BYD looks better🧐🤯
Very nice but the reality of it is that a buddy of mine is giving back his non-Tesla electric car because for long distances all other supercharger networks are CR@P and it’s making him go back to a petrol car! 😱
A lot of drivers just want a car that works. So maybe that’s the reason for Tesla popularity. They just work and like you said if you’re getting an EV there’s no other car brand that will make that transition easier than a Tesla
For using fast charges yes. But charging at home is the same.
But then there's the user interface. It's a big departure from what people are used to. Sometimes for no good reason.
As long as they insist on those few dumb ideas, they won't appeal to average people. Not if they have a choice of a more familiar car.
Most cars have indicators. This is an easy transition from a BMW or an Audi, but for people that actually use their indicators this is definitely not an easy transition
@@angrypomThat's a good one 😅
@@Alberto-mq7gw there’s definitely a lot of features in the car but just like a new smartphone, people can see what they need to use then leave the rest.
@@Uchejnr Yes, but they definitely need to use the indicators, the windshield wipers, the gear selector or the steering wheel. Those things are critical in the user interface of a car and you can't change them arbitrarily. Well, apparently you can, legally speaking, but it's disrespectful and even dangerous. Tesla is getting away with it for two main reasons: 1, because it appeals to some techies. 2, because some people still don't have a choice if they have to road trip often or depend on public chargers. But ultimately it will have to decide to either ditch these dumb decisions or stay as a niche brand.
Thanks for a fun and informative presentation. The long distance charging is an issue and stopping a lot of interested but wary potential uptake in Australia.
Opening line "this is such an interesting testicle". Come on, who heard it.😂😂😂
I test drove the Tesla. I wanted to love it but hated it. Not conventional enough to drive. Almost dangerous
Nicola here, can confirm Ginny definitely says ‘test to call’ at the start of the video 😂
I heard that as well
You sure, sure sounds like 'testicles'
The most expensive part in an EV car is battery. BYD is producing battery itself. Therefore, it is able to provide a competitive price. Elon Musk also mentioned, if not because of the tariff imposed on this Chinese car by many countries. No other car makers can compete with BYD in term of price.
Tesla also produces its own batteries. Tesla has a bettery part in each of their factories producing cars. Not all are operational but they would be in the future. Tesla had their priority on the part that produces cars first but now the focus is on batteries more or less.
Wait why didn’t you mention the emergency PRNDL in the sunglass visor