Tesla Model 3 vs BYD Seal | Tesla battles a new rival!
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
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Tesla’s benchmark-setting Model 3 has got an update for the 2024 model year with improvements to the cabin, drive and technology. BUT, a new rival lurks on the horizon in the form of the BYD Seal. Is Tesla’s dominance at threat? CAR magazine’s James Dennison finds out.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Tesla Model 3 interior
4:31 - BYD Seal interior
7:31 - Practicality/price/range/charging
8:22 - Tesla Model 3 driving
12:12 - BYD Seal driving
15:19 - Verdict
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Which car would you choose?
Tesla
Tesla.
Tesla. I did - coming in Jan I hope!
The one with its own cheap to use charging network
The Model 3
People always seem to forget that most buses in London are BYD/ADL
Japan too
They don't forget, they just don't know 😂
And the London cabs are Chinese too.
really, and I thought japan isn't into electric cars@@pj6083
what does that have to do with model 3 vs Seal.. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
I’ve owned a BYD Seal AWD performance in Thailand for 2 months. It cost less than a base model 3 here (if you could actually buy one). The fit and finish is excellent with no squeaks or rattles and no panel gaps. The ride quality for a performance car is excellent. The handling and performance of my car is amazing. I’m using the bi-directional charging on the Seal to power my house - videos on my channel for the doubters.
Bad car bad service in Thailand.
I’m moving to Thailand in 2025 (around Udon Thani and Khon Kaen area). How’s the overall EV charging infrastructure?
Great video, thanks. We just ordered the Seal Premium in Australia (mid tier, aud 62k, 650km range). Test drove it yesterday & really liked it. Didn't consider model 3 or any Tesla as we don't like its exterior or interior. Don't care about their charging network either as 99% of charging will be done in our garage
Yes same here, Seal Premium on order, test drove earlier this week, plenty of performance with the 230kW engine and finish like you’d expect in a Benz. And in Australia no fringe benefits tax for private use of a company owned EV. Like you we have rooftop solar so all our urban charging will be at home.
I also have a test drive of the Seal Premium in 2 days time here in Australia. I was sold on a Tesla Model 3, until the Seal Premium specs and price were revealed here in Australia. It completely swayed me away from the Model 3, given that the Seal is $5000 cheaper and still has physical stalks and buttons, for example. For those that aren't aware, here in Australia we are required to indicate left off a roundabout unless it is not practical to do so. Trying to do this with buttons on a steering wheel, is just near impossible/annoying. I also like having a screen in front of me with all the information readily visible.
I will also charge predominantly at home, so I could care less about the Supercharger network. Also with the increase in Ampol and BP EV charging infrastructure, I dont have any concerns with long distance travel. BYD have nailed it in terms of what you get for your money here in Australia. I'm surprised that in Europe it's quite a lot more expensive. In any case my test drive will be the final determining factor, so I'll wait and see.
I've gone with Seal Performance. I used to own a Model 3 but had to give it up due to things outside my control. I loved it dearly but I also have this habit that I don't want the same model of a car twice. I find the interior of the Seal very appealing and hope the car, after a test drive later today, will be equally as great as the Tesla was.
With that range in BYD. Yes, charging at home. External charging cost a lot. And now, Tesla getting momentum, the free charging is removed steadily, if any free today if you do not own a 2017 Model X!
Ordered the same model as you but a few months back. So many polarising and impractical decisions with the Tesla from the lack of HUD, no driver display, no CarPlay, lack of stalks, vital gear selector/door locks/wiper/light controls all in the touchscreen.
Always wanted an EV sedan/liftback, Tesla is a clear no go but Polestar 2 was ridiculously expensive for optioning basic features into the car, and the LFP Blade battery makes a mockery of the longevity and safety of first gen NMC battery EVs, and still has excellent range.
Finally the $62k our cars cost, is under £33k which would be amazing value given how crazy expensive all cars are in the UK. Not to mention the base model Dynamic here starting at $50k or £27k
The UK is used to driving European cars, which don't move the indicator stalk when converting from left to right hand drive. Cars made specifically for right hand drive markets often have the indicator on the door side of the steering wheel. It's actually ergonomically better to have the indicator on the outside, with the other hand free to operate the gear change and other central controls, whether it's left or right hand drive. European and US makers don't bother shifting the indicator stalk when converting driving side.
Yea in Australia where most cars are Japanese or Korean (Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Hyundai, Kia), they all have the indicators on the right, and it’s out of the norm and only on Euro cars where you have to get used to it being on the left.
Yeh I was Gona say he was wrong on that. Surely most UK cars have the indicator on the right?
Yes. Hard to trust a motor journo that doesn't know this simple fact
Agreed, that is why I was shocked when he said it is wrong way around, as an professional reviewer, how can he say that? Terrible review
thats what I thought too. it's nice of byd to make it correct for the rhd markets.
Indicators on the right used to be the standard for right hand drive cars as the left hand is then free to change gears.
We've become accustomed to having the indicators on the left side as import manufacturers didn't bother to change to the correct side to save costs.
I disagree with: "...most EV buyers buy an EV because of the performance..."
Yes, the performance advantage is a welcome consequence of driving an EV, however, the whiplash-inducing 3 second 0-60 time would (IMO) get old and tiring after a bit and be relegated to a party trick for new passengers.
The BYD seems to be a solid alternative for someone who'd prefer to set themselves apart from the crowd.
Thanks for a great review!
😎👍🏼
I bought a Model 3 Performance, my first EV, because of the performance. Pretty self explanatory in it's own name. Previously coming from the BMW M3 F80 Competition daily car, this Model 3P does not disappoint. In fact, it is a much faster car in the real world with AWD confident even in the rain it puts the power down like it's no one's business. And the best is that it costs nothing to run whereas BMW M3 used to cost £600 a month on fuel. The only EV that gives me excitement with great handling, track mode, great brakes and steering wheel, double wishbone suspension with multilinks set up that you normally find in very expensive sports cars, i have no other choice, but go with Tesla M3P, and it truly is a bargain. Can't wait to see Tesla releases the Model 3 Plaid Track Package with higher top speed punch.
Totally
"The BYD seems to be a solid alternative for someone who'd prefer to set themselves apart from the crowd." BYD are the second largest seller of EVs, could easily overtake Tesla. So, the BYD Seal will be a dime a dozen, not really setting yourself apart from the crowd.
True. How often do we need the 3s acceleration which is impractical actually. Range is far making more sense.
Yeah, performance is low on my EV list.
No stalks means we’re off to the Seal which even has the indicator on the correct side for RHD (think Japanese).
Tesla cynicism is on full display now…….and the shareholders can make their own arrangements.
BYD Seal is significantly CHEAPER and QUIETER and more plush in Australian reports.
Fancy seeing you in the comments mate !! 😂 Excited for you to get your Seal. P.s. I do really love the updates to the 3 (believe it or not).
What's the price of the BYD vs the RWD Tesla in Oz?
They're changing the stalks so the indicators will be on the left
plus i nicer looking car outside and in.
True that, global reviews put BYD ahead
The competition is not BYD vs Tesla, but EV vs petrol. Both these cars are better than their German petrol powered rivals, and that's what really matters.
Agree. I am tired of EVs compared to EVs videos. Your average Joe wants a bmw 5 series or Camry fuel engines compared to an EV. I know its not apple to apple, but this is the current situation especially in countries where the EV penetration rate is still low.
Better how?
in that case petrol
is still winning, miles ahead. ill admit there are times where i have taken my ICE instead of tesla
because of range anxiety
So true. I agree with you 100%
Why 'german'? They have EVs versions too.
I’ve had a model 3 for 3 years now, and never need to access the menus whilst driving, most time for music selection the voice commands are spot on
The biggest difference is that Tesla does not have an interior. It’s like buying an unfurnished house. Although BYD is a bit more expensive, at least 8 don’t have to sleep on the floor.😂
The thing is, you do your settings once, then you just drive. No need for constantly get into settings while driving a Tesla.
Is it that hard to adjust your seat, steering wheel and mirror? It is always good to check your mirror every time you sit in the drivers seat.
Yes 'everything has to be done thru the touchscreen' is often mentioned in Road-tests but what are people actually doing?
I've had my Tesla 2 years now, I set my driving position up once and never touched it again, I may tap the phone icon and make a call, extremely easy, I may tap the Radio icon, or the Spotify icon both again no harder than any other car, sat nav I use the button on the steering wheel, otherwise......wtf are people doing that its an issue?
to make sure u are not speeding, u need to turn your head left to see your speed for like every 10s. cos there is no HUD in tesla model 3. that's stupid.
Those BYD stalks are the correct orientation for a true RHD market car (particularly a manual car).
6:58 indicator on the right hand side is correct in my book for right hand drive locations.
The indicators aren’t on the wrong side, that’s just what most Asian cars have. Maybe the Japanese and Koreans swap it for Europe but they have the indicator stalk on the right side in a lot of countries
The UK is used to driving European cars, which don't move the indicator stalk when converting from left to right hand drive. Cars made specifically for right hand drive markets often have the indicator on the door side of the steering wheel. It's actually ergonomically better to have the indicator on the outside, with the other hand free to operate the gear change and other central controls, whether it's left or right hand drive. European and US makers don't bother shifting the indicator stalk when converting driving side.
In Australia, we have indicators on the right hand side too. I am still getting used to my Tesla with them on the left.
RHD indicator should be right hand operated as back in old days people still drove manual so the left hand operates the stick and right hand indicator
Thanks for the review. I think there’s an editing issue towards the end - around 14.30 or so. A section is repeated. Unless my iPad was playing up!
The indicators on BYD are on the correct side for a RHD car. Poor old UK gets European LHD stalks.
LHD cars have indicator on LHS so that right hand can operate gears etc. RHD have indicators (properly) on RHS so leaves left hand for gears, wipers etcetera.
No mention of efficency?
kWh/100km or if you must miles per kWh for the handful of countries using those measurements is equally important to range but missing from article.
The Seal interior is stylish but colour scheme is as drab as a Toyota regrettably. Shame because Atto 3 and Dolphin interiors are much brighter.
No mention either of Tesla still making you look left to a speedo by not supplying either HUD or instrument cluster in driver's line of sight.
Agreed that Tesla cost cutting with no stalks is atrocious but consistent with their info screen.
I’m from Europe and all the cars that I have driven have had their turning indicators on the LHS.
So here in Sweden were the Model 3 is more expensive than the BYD seal it's harder to pick.
I were almost ready to order TM3 but now i have to consider the seal ...
The indicators on a right drive is the correct side.. Many eons ago you use your left hand to change gears.. And you right hand is free to use the indicators
Great video, thanks. In regard to indicators on the wrong side, with right hand drive the indicators should be on the right so the left hand can be used for centre console controls. Left hand drive they are on the left for right hand to control centre.
Why would you be touching the centre console when you're turning? There's no gear stick in an electric car so it doesn't matter which side the indicator stalk is.
Tesla is too minimalistic for me. No turn stalk and no gear shift kills it.
Here in Ireland, the base Seal is €5000 more expensive than the base Model 3. Tough choice, they should have price matched the M3.
Is it a tough choice? That's a big price difference
Tesla lowered its prices to compete with BYD, so you know which one is better now.
Base model Tesla in Ireland is coming in at just under 42k. Seal design at 44k. Plus the another BYD Seal version coming to Ireland in 2024 which will be mid to high 30s.
In China, the most expensive mode of BYD Seal is about 1500 euro more than the price of the cheapest Mode 3.
The BYD Seal base model should arrive in the EU markets by the end of 1st quarter 2024, it will be €4000 less than the TM3 base model. The base BYD Seal model will have an LFP battery capacity of around 67 kWh (so a bit more than the TM3 base model).
Obviously the indicators dominate the Tesla interior discussion, but that shiny strip you mention that reflects in the windscreen would drive me crazy on long highway trips - esp here in Australia where it's usually sunny.
I'm happy with my 2022 interior and the only updates I envy are the rear double glazing and ventilated seats.
Thanks for the video. Can you elaborate more on the road and tire noise between the two cars? Did you find out which has less tyre noise on course chip roads?
There is no doubt that seals have much better noise control than M3 . The two are not at the same level.
The BYD road noise is on par with the Mercedes EQE, which is to say that the noise is absent to about 120 km/h.
The TM3 acoustic insulation is known to be not on par with the EU competition (BMW i4, VW id7 etc....).
Both are excellent cars and both will sell well. I own three Teslas and two BYDs and they are both good in different ways. Different cars for different people. Both are so much better than driving a fossil car.
why would one buy a BYD rather than Tesla, if the cost was the same let's say.....
In Australia, the Seal Premium (i.e. what you reviewed) is A$58,798 (31,508 GBP) and Tesla Standard Range is A$61,900 (33,170 GBP) - both in white and excluding on road charges. How would that affect your choice ? The Australian Seal version only has 7kW ac charging though, so not identical to your EU version, however the price difference is enormous between here and over there.
Global reviews put Seal ahead of Tesla in quiteness and driving dynamics
I've seen conflicting reports about road noise. A family member has already driven a Seal and reports it's not that much different to their pre facelift made in China Model 3 in terms of tire and road noise. I will be trying a Seal next week and I really want it to be quieter than my model 3. If it's close then, as much as I want to buy the Seal, I'll have to wait until I've tried the new model 3 before deciding which to buy.
the boy in the video is biased byd seal is a better car, more space, comfort more better build
That's compared to the old M3.
On BYD indicators on the right was what we used to have in the UK. Up to the 1970's all British cars had the indicator stalk on the right. Meant that when you drove with right arm on door you could flick the switch one handed... went left to European left side in the 1970's....
Byd are switching the stalks around for their UK deliveries, after they received feedback. So it's not going to be an issue compared to the demonstrator cars.
Spin the screen to portrait to park as you get 3 partitions instead of 2 in landscape, so makes it very easy to slot into confined spaces.
I went for the Seal, purely based on controls and flexibility with an Android based operating system.
Hold up. Are we getting EV's for snappiness and response ??
Yes, I think that while car reviewers enjoy the snappines, the reality is that the rest of us driving ICE cars (at least many of us) take good care of accelerating gently enough for the passengers to be comfortable. Driving alone you can be a bit more careless about it, but how many people have ever floored the throttle of their cars to use their full power? I personally can't remember if I ever have. Maybe when I was young and the car was slow anyway.
Ageee to driving smoothly most of the time but the snappiness and response can be very practical when pulling out in to traffic or merging.
Well many of us are, yes.
How about a comparison of regen braking?
As a model Y owner, its a shame BYD cannot sell their cars in the US. I'd love to see more EV options in the US because that isn't going to come from Ford/GM/Stellantis, those 3 are utterly clueless.
Thanks for the review - convinced me to get a BYD over the Tesla which I have just completed a order for the performance model!
Autogefühl said the BYD seal drives and handles better than the model 3 highland, so it really depends on who is reviewing.
Feels like alot of the information on this video isnt true. For example the BYD seal does have more space in the rear seats.
Can't trust a car reviewer who doesn't understand why indicators are on the RHS on a right hand drive car.
I simply think he has no idea about most things and making it up.
There are also so much more not mentioned . Lack of ultrasonic sensors on the Tesla, no proper rain sensor... etc. All things that matter
It was all opinion based. There are actual measuring devices available to objectively state things such as legroom and cabin noise but most reviewers can't be bothered to do a thorough job.
Them describing the new Model 3 interior: “It isn’t that different to the pre-facelifted model”
Also, them: continues on describing the totally new and different styles and features (forgot the ventilated seats also) - 🤣
The lack of turning indicators tells me the designers have never driven in a country with roundabouts.
The indicator stalks are on the correct side for right hand drive cars on the BYD... We have been putting up with the LHD configuration for too long!
BYD electric double-deckers have recently started to appear on London's streets, which is nice.
why do you use polarised lens
what variant?
Video missed some nice features for the seal. The biggest is using the car are a big battery and putting out to 3kws. So you can charge another car if you needed to from it. Also has voice controls.
Tesla, the masters at solving problems that don't exist
Excellent, informative review!
Thank you kindly!
Both better than petrol 🙏🙏
Thanks for this highly relevant coverage. Brits, indeed, are still best for car reviews. Appreciation from Singapore
Which color Seal is that?
The problem is the UK price for the Seal is so much more than it is in, for example, Australia. Here we pay around 30K GBP for what I think is the same version as that tested in this video. I have no idea why they are 1.5X more expensive in the UK.
Becuz if UK/ European price for Seal is not priced at a premium compared to elsewhere - then big European car makers will start to be screaming for governments to label BYD as artificially lowering Seal prices….
Cause we have a free trade deal with China that cuts tariff off the products we import.
英国比澳大利亚远，运费，关税等
@@Jack-xe3uc They are already doing it with BYD selling at 2.5X the price as they do in China. How funny.
The UK had no import tariff from most of the good ICE manufacturers in EU for so long, and the rest of the world had to pay 1.5x the cost if outside continental EU - so fair's fair, BYD is a Chinese company and their trade deals may be a lot different with the UK vs their local countries surrounding China.
Just something the British will have to stop complaining about, as they are no longer the ruling power of the known world.
BYD costs about 3000,-- more than the 3. If it costs 3000,-- less it would be correctly priced.
It does in Australia.
In Australia, the base model Seal is $14000 cheaper, and the Premium (more comparable to the 3) is still $4000 cheaper.
It is priced $3k less in Australia.
In my country (Thailand), the Seal AWD is sold at the same price as M3 HL RWD. If we were to compare the cheapest SEAL with M3 HL RWD then it is around 10K USD cheaper. And we are not even talking about the options Tesls offers and each adds to the total price. I was so into M3 HL but I changed my mind and bought the SEAL AWD. The past 2 months has been a joy.
In Australia the base model is 14000aud less than the model3, that's really strange pricing strategy 😂
BYD for the win, tesla is making a big mistake in removing the indicator arms
Thats ok, BYD costs more. So it must be the better car.
Great comparison video James , my choice would be BYD Seal if we could get it here in Slovenia :)
I would like that to happen too, because of all the taxes, i guess BYD Qin Plus Dmi would be a more affordable(price in China starts from 85K rmb, 1EURO=7.8RMB) choice for someone like me(who would not drive far and never used an electric car)
The portrait screen view (rotating the screen) is good for navigation with the native app, it can give you more of a view ahead on the map as you drive.
it's also for putting on movies for the passengers.
Chinese cars improve so fast. Elon used to laughed at byd 8 years ago, now they are going neck and neck
The old Model 3 (not the Highland version) outsells the Seal in China. Elon is still laughing ... all the way to the bank.
I'm not a fan of the haptic buttons for the turn signals either, but I can't imagine the need to use them in the middle of a turn, or a roundabout. Once you're in the turn, you're in the turn. I've had my model S for the past year and a half and I'm still not used to them. Besides, that little glitch, these cars are fantastic!
So when you're turning right at a roundabout and you entered the roundabout with the right turn indicator on, you don't then switch it to a left turn indicator as you pass the junction before the one you are taking off the roundabout? If not, why not?
Removing the stalks may be OK with the Tesla affecionardos but Joe Average and his wife will look elsewhere. It's a step too far and will prove to be a costly mistake.
The issue arises when you are in the turn on a roundabout 3/4 lock and need to signal to exit. Indicator storks are perfect for this and second nature to drivers. Not a good move by Tesla.
In a lot of countries you’re meant to indicate what direction you’re going in the roundabout, and then indicate the other way when you’re leaving the roundabout too. Makes for added confusion when the wheel is spinning
You would need them while going around a roundabout.
If you are approaching a roundabout and you need to take the 3rd exit, you would press the turn right signal button, then while going around the roundabout, you pass the 2nd exit you should be signalling left to show your intention to exit on the 3rd exit. At this point the indicator buttons are upside down because your steering around the roundabout, so the steering wheel will be at a different angle.
so you dont know how to use a roundabout.
The price difference, and the premium experience of the Supercharger infrastructure makes this a no-brainer. And I love the Tesla minimalist interior. The Seal interior is fine for people who like shiny objects. It so 20th Century.
Im from the U.S. I think I would choose the BYD if I could, but the only option in this country is to get the Tesla......
I can't get over any car without Instrument Cluster.
Signaling comes first before turning left or right, not the other way around. That is why Tesla is way ahead and not going backwards.
How on earth does BYD thinking being 6000 pounds more expensive than the Tesla is justified? I like the BYD though that's no small difference
As someone looking into both and currently owns an iX3, the fact that BYD Seal only manages 150 kW at best is off-putting and I am far more keen on the M3LR Highland.
In my country BYD is 25% cheaper than Tesla.
The BYD has more range, but it is less efficient than the Tesla. So your comment that it’s an “impressive range” is far from reality.
why do you need to press the turn button when you are already turning, i am not understanding why
In the UK we have many junctions and roundabouts that require indication when the wheel is turned. Different to America and many other countries of course, but definitely an issue over here 👍
@@CARmagazineTV thank you for the clarification
Yes Another range test as yesterday i love driving electric car
ACTUALLY YOU ARE WRONG ON BACK SEAT AS BYD GOT CLEARLY MORE SPACE IN THE BACK SEAT BUT BOOT IS BIGGER ON TESLA. HOW COME YOU GET WRONG ON BACK SEAT?
Agree that buttons for indicators are an ergonomic fail. I hate it when people leave the right signals on when they're actually exiting a roundabout, and this really won't help with that. Conversely, I disagree that the BYD has the stalk on the "wrong" side. In fact, I wish all RHD cars had the indicators on the right side. I drove 80's Nissans and Mazdas with the indicators on the right, and it makes so much more sense - how often do you use the indicators, compared with the wipers? And which hand do you tend to have on the wheel the most? Granted it makes more sense in a manual ICE car where you can indicate and change gear at the same time, but many people still rest their left hand on the shifter even in an auto. That makes the indicators a double win for the BYD IMO.
I think the pace of innovation is interesting here, but my money is waiting for a van type of EV, with camping add-ons as standard, such a seats that fold to a bed, under floor batteries galore, V2L, and other mod-cons that are allowable due to extra space.
That'd be awesome
Ummm
What is the CORRECT side of the steering wheel for the blinker stalk on a LHD/American car?
A. The LEFT
What is the CORRECT side of the steering wheel for the blinker stalk for a RHD/UK car?
A. The RIGHT
...just because so many cars in the UK have the blinker stalk on the incorrect dangerous side of the steering wheel....doesn't make it the correct way!! Its just that you guys in the UK are force to by car manufacturers to use your incorrect hand (left) on the blinker stalk.
I haven’t tested yet the indicators stalks, so I don’t know if it’s an issue or not. But everyone is saying that’s a cut cost. I don’t agree. If that were the case, all cheaper cars would have them. Then why put a screen in the rear, which is more expensive than a stalk? Why double glass all over the car when it is more expensive than a stalk? I believe it is just for future purposes related to autonomous driving and software new functionality. Maybe it won’t hold and they get the stalk back in the future. We’ll see. Maybe others will follow.
Totally agree, the indicator stalks, the 1/2 D steering wheel, and steer by wire are about folding the steering wheel away at some later date when we no longer need it. Its just getting us used to the idea. Far easier to have it slide into the dashboard when its not a big circle stalks on it.
I don't even understand how some of the things Tesla are doing are legal in Europe where we have actual roads. The none wheel steering wheel, the indicators
In Australia the Seal costs only $26400 Pounds. Seal win hands down here vs a Model 3 highland.
That's just under $49,900 plus on road costs, the Model 3 is $61,900 plus on roads. That's £26,200 vs £35,600. But I wouldn't say Seal wins hands down, that's your personal opinion, and you're entitled to it, but you're not speaking for me. But then, I am comparing the Model Y with the Atto 3 and the ride just wasn't comparable in my mind. But it depends what you're after, I guess. It will be interesting how the BYD compares after 3 or 4 years on the road, will it be in as good condition, or are the parts just not up to par? Many Chinese developed cars don't have a good record with quality parts, only time will tell.
The seal is just a knock off alternative without the Amazon charging infrastructure byd will never have
In Australia with Pounds?
@@utha2665 Hahaha, do you know many BMW, Benz, Tesla, Volvo made in China? BYD's quality has a good reputation for many years. A taxi driver told me he chose BYD Han rather than VW because BYD is more reliable.
In the age of 'Social Media' it's easy to take a camera and press record and speak as a guru. Lights and wipers really don't need a switch to be honest. Good sensors should handle that well. Only that Tesla Vision is not yet quite there yet.
Why didn't you test the Seal performance trim?? 😡
BYD seems to cater more to an older komfortabel oriented customer. While the Tesla is more focused on the younger for tech, efficiency and driver appeal.
I'd disagree on that. The Seal I test drove was very very harsh. The new Model 3 is much more comfortable, surprisingly (the pre-refresh had the worst suspension I've ever witnessed in a car. Refresh suspension is great tho).
I really don't understand how these journos missed the Auto cancel for the signals. I have the car and it works great. I'm getting 4.6 miles to the kW. And this is my first ev., having come over from a Mercedes, I have to say it is a very positive move.
I've never had a car where auto cancel worked 100% of the time. And then there are roundabouts, where no stalks make the Tesla a deal breaker.
Byd interior design looks like old Buick (not so great)
I wouldn't say the Tesla has more rear seat space ? The Seal has a lot more space!
The philosophy of BYD EV is centered around a smoother transition from ICE cars to EV. Take the accelerator as an example, it is delebrately calibrated to emulate the throttle of ICE car by making the power more linear. Because the instant torque of EV may be thrilling for the driver, it is certainly not a pleasing experience for the passengers.
byd is closer to traditional cars and you won't struggle using it in other hand tesla offers their vision of a car all controls on a steering wheel, I think byd will gain a huge amount of market, tesla will suffer
no HUD is truly a bad thing on Tesla. Imagine u need to look at the central screen for like 10 times per minute to make sure u are not speeding. That's just silly.
I’ve been hearing that for YEARS and Tesla is just selling more EV than everyone else 🤷🏽♂️
I've been in both and without a doubt the Seal has more space in the rear. And one major thing is you can charge the seal to 100% every time with LFP batteries
Um...you can in this Tesla to its LFP.
The Model Y has LFP batteries too, ironically they use BYD batteries in them.
European spec model 3s have LFP
Model 3 has the LFP battery too. Same thing with 100% charging every time.
Same with the RWD model 3
Indicators are on the opposite side to what you are used to, not the wrong side.
Why dont you compete the AWD????
A Chinese EV more expensive than the American counterpart.. Interesting times..
They both Chinese consider the Tesla is from Shanghai, and so do most of its parts.
Driving chinese cars feels cheap.
Only in Europe is it more expensive. In markets such as Australia, Brazil and Thailand, seal are cheaper.
@@passby8070 True. They share exactly the same supply chain.
Base Model 3 is 1.4 seconds quicker 0-100 than the base Seal. That is a big difference.
0 - 100? Who drives EV’s, let alone any car, that quick? Even often enough for it to actually mean anything?
Yes ev hv bad handling, single party pony trick which is why most people use it for straight roads only and it becomes old as there is no fun driving it through the bends. Else everyone will buy an ev and no one will buy any M cars or porsche.
that's all because byd seal is so expensive in EU. If the base Seal is 13k cheaper than model 3 (in Australia), u gonna ignore that difference. Even the 3.8s 0-100 performance version of Seal, just 7k AUD more than the base model 3.
Not really relevant though as the mid spec model Seal is cheaper than the M3 in most markets. In Australia the base M3 sits about midway in price between the premium and performance Seal and according to the quoted 0-100 times is slower than both.
@@123silentassassin People whose personality and self worth is solely based on how fast their car accelerates 🤣🤣
BYD is producing the more enviromental friendly, cost effective, longer range and and much more efficient recharging sodium battery pack. That means lower price fo the EV finish product. BYD holds a long list of patents in EV technologies for the benefits of worldwide EV consumers.
Honestly, I would never buy an EV with only touch screen operation, because it doesn’t gives you a haptic feedback and is difficult to place your finger on the right icon. In some traffic situations it will take all your attention for some simple actions needed and deflect your attention from traffic.
The next batch due in the UK (March 2024) will have the indicator stalk on the left hand side. Also, I think the AWD version (0-62 in 3.8s) is superior to the Model 3 and is only £3k more than the RWD version.
Tesla Model 3 comes with Thousands of Tesla Chargers, rock up, plug in, go eat. BYD make fabulous cars, busses and trucks but no charging infrastructure just lots of different energy providers and a phone full off charging apps in other words only half of the solution and that's why Tesla wins every time.
Ten years of driving EV's has made me realise you need the whole package, In 2014 I loved my Nissan Leaf Tekna but 60 miles of range in Winter meant we really had to plan our driving no so with the Model YLR we did a 195 trip today left with 240 arrived back with 35 miles, 70MPH all the way and plugged in at home for a cheap overnight charge back to 240.
If we had needed to charge there were two banks of Tesla chargers on our route dispensing the cheapest electricity in the UK
are you looking forward to pay per mile
No Indicator stalk in the tesla is a real deal breaker for us in norway and actually makes it potentially dangerous to drive, especially in the round about. Hope they dont do the same in the upgraded model y next year. The Seal looks very nice as well.
BYD has a pretty and luxurious design.
BYD provides the screen for iPads.
what has always put me off Tesla is the lack of instruments/HUD in front of the driver, then they put a screen in the rear, geez, also no apple carplay is a biggie, whats that all about, btw, I can charge at home, having solar panels. Here in NZ, having been brought up on Japanese manufactured cars, we love indicator stalks on the LH of the wheel, here, if we see wipers being turned on at intersections, is someones first time behind the wheel of a European car.
Don't you mean the RH side? I have had a Tesla for just on a month now and really, you get used to the instrumentation. With auto pilot, you have a lot more time to look over, not that I'm less vigilant, it just means my focus is on other important things, like cars further ahead, I have longer to check my blind spot, and to check the map. The speed indicator is just a glance down to the left, or right depending on what side you drive on.
Given the Seal is cheaper than the Model 3 in Australia would that mean it would take the win away from the M3?
Seal AWD
If only one was available as an estate...
Another review not considering longer term driving and not understanding Tesla's drive for automation. Once mirrors, drive mode, seat, aircon and other driver preferences are saved to a driver profile in the Tesla, the need for switch gear disappears. Its linked via phone key and can be used when driving other Teslas. Also there are quick access shortcuts for wipers, lights and aircon and voice commands, but i find the auto modes work fine most of the time. This also allows complete access via software allowing the car to improve over time via OTA software updates. What is the fixation with CarPlay? You have to manually plug the phone in on the BYD. As a former CarPlay user I don’t miss it, moreover i plan trips in other map apps and send to the car before getting in.
So come on, if you’re reviewing cars for people to buy you need to review them from an owner perspective
I bet BYDs margins are pretty thin on this. Ultimately I don't think other companies will be able to compete with Tesla unless they adopt their manufacturing process. Also I find it annoying when comparisions like this don't talk about the charging experience. How hard is it to find chargers using the UI / navigation system? All other things being equal the super charger network / smooth charging experience is going to make me choose the Tesla.
The new model 3 looks so good i will deffo be buying one
He says we buy electric cars cuz it’s snappy and quick! Grow up kid! I like my car to be linear and comfortable.
The Tesla model 3 has far less rear seat space than the BYD Seal.
That is not so hard to check with a measure tape if you don't trust your visual observation capacity.