Fixing A Boat Floor - Deck Panel!
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"5 different ways of doing something and someone will always disagree.." So true but they don't have a video camera or a project like what you are sharing with millions. Keep up the great work and I wish you the very best in Merc School
I love FGCI. I just bought their gelcoat paste. I'm using it to fill in the stress cracks and spider cracks plus repairing some Nick's and chips. I just repaired some holes from a bimini top and a couple of Nick's. I grind out the cracks with a dye grinder and a conical bur. I grind them out down to the fiberglass and the paste fills them ease even on the bottom of the hull. It has a beautiful peanutbutter consistency and it is a solid polyester repair when it hardens. It sands down easily and you can by different dye to color match it. I didn't do that the white it comes in doesn't match my top paint but I'm just using it as a filler and fairing material then putting a fresh coat of Gelcoat over the top of the whole topside.
I'm in eastern NC prepping for the flooding and winds we are expecting from Dorian tomorrow; for the past 3 days I have worked this old body into exhaustion getting ready; Your video is a bright spot in my evening! ; a positive relief from all the storm stuff. Thank you!
And, I am very happy you all were spared the devastation of Dorian; our prayers are with those in the Abacos...
Batten down the hatches! Thankfully it has hit that cold water and really weakened, but it's still going to be hitting your guys :( lol you gotta be careful with that! Thank you! Yes, just 2 years after IRMA, we don't need another one this year, the same here, the Abacos and Freeport are just in ruins! That was a Cat 5 sitting there for more than a day! Gusts of wind over 225 MPH, that's insane :(
Andrew F Yakim Dorian mash us up over here.
@@bahamasking2063 Hi Bahamas King, I have been to the Bahamas, Abacos. Yes you guys had one of the worse storms ever. I'm in coastal North Carolina and have been through 8+ major hurricanes and TS, countless smaller one; our home flooded in 1999 with Hurricane Dennis and Floyd and we have flooded where I am now twice with water in the house.... I've just gotten too old, and too stupid to move...
Andrew F Yakim Yeah you have some real horror stories. When you coming back over again?
@@bahamasking2063 I am not sure when I will be able to make it back; it's a long way from North Carolina; but also there are still a lot of travel restrictions with 'the virus'.... Bahamas (and eastern NC! ☺) is like heaven-on-earth!!, except for the hurricanes!
I really enjoy the way you place your information in the notes. Easy to find and easy to understand. Most of all, very relevant. A true pro
Glad it was helpful!
Its the little tricks that make all the difference. ie wearing multiple gloves so u can rip them off on the go etc.
Great ideas. But may I make a suggestion for the fiberglass sanding? I'd say a bunch of big fans and bookoo amount of smaller fans! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Glad to see someone is reusing preformed glass. Much easier!
I appreciate this video very much! I just completed the floor on my grady white center hatch almost exactly as you did. The floor so far feels like a rock but 1 section feels like it kind of removed itself from the glass on 1 side between the wood and top glass. I even let it cure for a week before I installed but it doesn't bother me, it's no longer soft.
Man after having Labor day Monday off work I completely forgot it was technicians Tuesday! Glad you guys aren't getting hammered by Dorian but I pray 🙏 for those who have been affected by it. Great video boss man! I have learned a lot through this restoration series that I can apply to my 60 y/o glass boat!
Lol a day off is always nice :) we are glad too, the Bahamas got really hammered :( Thank you, I'm sure there's a lot to do on a 60 year old boat! lol
new subscriber, your videos are awesome, your voice is clear, informative and calm, great music, good editing - things move along quickly and i never get bored, and i love all the tips and tricks.
You were totally dependent on the straightness of the plywood when it was on the saw horses. Also, with no clamps in the middle there’s likely to be a big un supported void in the middle. I would have put down some visqueen on a flat surface and put the project on that. I also would have used a thickener and troweled the polyester before bedding down the plywood. Lower one end down first in the direction of the trowel marks so the air gets a chance to get out. You could then stack weights around and have straight full contact assembly.
I am going to follow your advice on my project.
Pretty sure you have a void in the middle of the the top deck gelcoated glass layer and that plywood. You could see it sagging when you put the the plywood on. The clamps around the edge prolly didn't pull the middle up.
For real man I love you're videos , the quality is always awesome , Tuesday is becoming my favorite day of the week :D.
Haha Thank you!
Thanks for making this, extremely helpful video. If there's a video where you install the access ports into this panel I'd love to see it. Suprised you didn't cut youy plywoof into squares as it had been done previous and that you didn't cut your mat into a template with holes so you don't have to cut it at the end when you reinstall the access port. New to this and learned a ton from this video, thanks!
I almost threw the main floor away 4yrs ago when I started the Aguasport Proyect. Thank God never did. Everyday I think how bless I am for Not Throwing the most Important part of Floor
Hahhah that's awesome :)
I would have layed the saved fiberglass piece on a solid level surface before glassing the board on... That piece is going to be warped unless you get lucky.
The saw horses should have been level in every direction and perfectly parallel to each other then place at least 4 - 6, 2"x2" strips across them to support the original work piece.
Other than that... Good job!
A cool trick for wetting out the heavy woven cloth is to wet out the cloth between two sheets of visqueen. Then roll the surface of the visqueen which will force the air out and wet out the cloth much faster. Then you transfer the woven cloth to the wood using the visqueen. Once in place you roll the visqueen surface one last time and then remove it. Also.... to give yourself more working time with Poly, put it something large and flat like a cookie sheet. The depth of the resin is what makes it kick fast (as well as heat).
Hmm that's a good idea :) Thank you!
Great video. I have to re-do this repair after my first attempt about 10 years ago. Why did you coat the underside of the panel with fairing compound before you painted it?
No reason in particular, just to make it cleaner I guess
@@BornAgainBoating ok cool. Just making sure I wasn't missing a step.
nice job I am guilty of using polyester resin too, the cost is the reason. However it would have to be high end before I put epoxy resin in a boat.
I see you got yourself a multimaster. Good choice! (Those scraper blades work well once you get the hang of them, sometimes skinny is better, sometimes fatter is better, depends on how wet the coring is)
Yes sir! Thank you for the recommendation!
Thanks for the video. I would have scree the underside filler using a steel straight edge for a more consistent finish. Cheers
Just came upon your channel just finished watching all your videos love all of them . Like the way you show what your talking about when you doing it .
Thank you!
Top notch video as always. Still surprised you arent wearing a mask when laying resin. This thing smells like hell and produces toxic vapors. Careful, especially when its your job and you are frequently exposed. Cheers
FYI - you should wear a mask when mixing cabosil as well
Great video as always!!! I have to say though, I'm not sold on the whole idea of an access panel for the entire fuel tank. The possibility of that much water intrusion into a cavity not intended for water intrusion out weighs the benefits of access if you ever need it. I'd rather do a deck repair. I know that's not the point of the video, just my 2 cents!! Anyway, thanks for sharing!!!
I live in N. Fla. and have been watching hurricane news all weekend too. Great video!
Thank you!
I’ve gone through this process a few times and always used marine ply and had good results. What were you referring to when you said there was composite options? How did they work out?
I’m a big fan of that scraper for the sawzall! Never seen that before
It's pretty sweet :)
Maybe you can answer this question. The previous owner of our boat tied it up with another boat that left 3 gouge marks an 1/8 of an inch deep at most. They opted to wrap the boat instead of fixing the damage and the installer cut the wrap on the gel coat. How would you go about fixing the small gouges and the cut lines in the gel coat from their razor blade? Hope you have an awesome week and stay safe with the hurricane.
search, boatworks today.. another good channel mostly doing fiberglass repair and refinish
@@TheRick2130 Absolutely, he is the best resource for anything fiberglass. I love Born Again videos for mechanical info, but for fiberglass - Boatworks today is THE go-to.
It really depends on how bad it is. Did the original damage ever get fixed? Are the razor blade marks and scratches all over the entire hull of the boat? If so, you basically stuck to sanding the hull, fairing the bad gouges and respraying the gel coat :( I agree with these guys, check out Andy with boatworks today, he is way more knowledgeable when it comes to fiberglass and gel coat than I am.
Great video and great job! Question for you, after spending all the time removing rotten wood and knowing that wood will rot, even marine grade, why did you use marine plywood instead of seaboard? After going through all that work, I would have used seaboard and be done with it forever! Just asking.. love the videos!
Thank you! Didn't have the dollars lol sadface
I have to ask! I was watching all the fiberglass dust being blowing over and through that wooden fence... What/Who was on the other side? A competitor's paint booth? Questioning minds want to know? :)
Lol it's an empty trap yard that stores traps in the off season, right now it just an empty lot with a little house down by the water :) no worries!
Ash Hole Cigar Club please shut up you jerk
Can you used treated woodplywood? and follow all the steps you did with fiberglass and everything? reglass etc?
There is no plywood marine for sale here where I live.
Thanks Pls let me know
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. Sorry I didn't get to it until now but I had that thing called work stopping me. We've been swamped this whole week I guess trying to get everything out in case the hurricane hits which it didn't just a little rain and wind.
Thank you! No worries! Hurricanes tend to throw a kink in stuff lol
Hey Aaron top job mate lookn sweet we're getting updates of that Hurricane coming your way here in Australia it looks nasty hope it doesn't impact you too much.....to you and your family stay safe and out of its way buddy
Hey! Thank you! Yeah, it's moved out and completely went the other way from us :) it's about to hit the Carolina's now though and it really went through and hammered the Bahama's :( The Grand Abaco Island is just in ruins :( The aftermath of a hurricane like that can take years to rebuild! We are all good thankfully, thank you!
@@BornAgainBoating Glad to hear your good news 👍 thoughts and well wishes to those it has affected and will affect
Could I just fill the edge gap around the wood with resin/hardener instead of using the product you used? Thanks for the video
Theres a Pvc 8x4 Panel Sold here in home depot in Orlando. Worker perfect under my Floor Gas Panel. Solid and no Math, resin, etc
I have a buddy that built a transom out of that PVC board, it wasn't flexible when you put it into the floor? Seemed pretty flimsy to me, but maybe they make thicker sheets or once it's down on the floor it strengthens up? He's transom seemed solid, it was only an 11' Boston Whaler though :)
@@BornAgainBoating all my floor on my boat is PVC. We might not be talking of the same. Had it done 3+ yrs and still like first day. When you cut it, get more stronger. It work for me. Try to throw it to you. I just remove my old tank, going from 50gl. To a 65gl. New. And is funny looking at cover floor tank, and looking my PVC work and still solid
Please can you put the link of the plywood because I was at Home Depot but the plywood don’t said marine
just found this video and subscribed to you. Thanks, this is exactly what I need to do to my access panel for the fuel tank as it has a soft spot. the outside of the panel edges are filled with 5200, is there an easy way to remove that? (maybe a stupid question but I am new to this) Great video!! look forward to others!
Awesome, thank you! Um, you can try and heat up the 5200 but usually just cutting it out is a good place to start. Then depending on how bad it is, you can mess up the glass when pulling it up so be careful, but do what you have to do to get it out!
Serious amount of work gone in to 1 panel!
So, a silly question, if there no wood used to make a boat, should you be looking for soft spots in the floor or any where else on a boat when your buying a boat?
Yes, the glass can separate and get weak over time outside of the rotten wood issue
Hey man. I have a question for ya. I am replacing the exact same panel in my sea ray. My span is 26 1/4” x 60” there is no existing fiberglass panel, I plan to make one. Will this process work for my application? The existing panel in your video didn’t look like it had a whole lot of structural support. But do you have any advice? Thanks man! Great videos!
I'm getting mixed signals... DO you like the scrapper blade or no.. LMAO. Another great vid.
A yellow autobody squeege works better for spreading resin around and you lose less to the roller that way.
4:10 The lady next door trying to figure out why all her grandkids got mesothelioma.
Read through quite a few comments didn't see my question asked, SO....
Why didn't you seal the plywood with a penetrating epoxy before glassing it all down?
Didn't have the time and just wetting them out will seal them. You are correct though, it's best to saturate the wood before installing it!
Polyester doesn't stick to epoxy.
You need a respirator to work with silica
Now I know how to fix a soft floor thank you
You bet!
You have the 💯% best content!
Thank you!
Where you buy your marine plywood from ?
I know this is a VERY broad question, is most soft deck work principles the same?
Wouldn't it make more sense to finish the fiberglass mattes into the edges and then pour the silica/resin?
Yeah, they are mostly the same. You really only use the silica mixture to fill in gaps. That's why you put it in before laying the glass. Just to fill that edge in and strengthen it up.
@@BornAgainBoating Ah, thanks for the reply. I'm trying not to make too many mistakes on a re-fit.
It would have been nice to see the boat
What about if you don’t have that board and only fiber glass and is very soft I used for now red fire foam caulk
Love your videos keep them coming
How much would a job like this cost or should cost. Maybe a reasonable expectation price.
Would it be recommended to use Nidacore/honeycomb composite material for something like this?
You probably could. I dont have a lot of experience with the stuff so I really don't know though ;)
Corona Glasskoter spreads epoxy/resin more efficiently without the roller soaking in material
I'll have to check those rollers out, I saw them in land n sea :) Thank you!
Awesome work, Is that your voice in the video? You sound older or like those dudes from dem old infomercials. You should try some narrating For Netflixx or something 😎 Spread your wings man..lol .. keep it up man. New subscriber
haha! thanks! and welcome aboard
I would have drilled some 1/4” inch holes in that plywood and put a weight in the middle to make sure the resin didn’t get air pockets in it , 🤨
I have been VERY disappointed with all the marine grade plywood as of late. Slice off a chunk and soak it in water for a few days. They all have delaminated. New eco friendly glue? Coosa board is all I’ll use. Even if the plywood stays intact it can warp, expand, gain weight rot or release contact with fiberglass or other adhesives when subjected to moisture. Coosa is much less prone to those problems. Components constructed with epoxy glass and Coosa are lifetime.
Coosa also known as Penske is the best choice to use. Might cost a lot more than wood but 10+ times any wood for durability and longevity. Do it right the first time because then it is the only time.
DL30Creations
100% agree!
My personal opinion is the only place wood belongs on a boat is furniture or decorative trim. Never for anything structural (even when encapsulated) or where any hardware is attached. Wood does what it’s supposed to do, decompose.
Can't seem to get better than 33rd position. I guess I need to hover Tuesday afternoons. 🤣🤣🤣
It goes quick lol
Fiberglass mat once the resin sets it's very structural, fact most boats are made from it..
Was about to say the same thing
Can I use cabosil instead of silica?
Why not use PVC board?!?!?
Do never apply poly to a plywood. Only epoxy may be used to soak wood.
Wondering about compartment in the side gunnel
When doing a deck you always save the top layer of glass/nonskid right?
Not necessarily. If you don't want to resurface the non-skid or it is textured like this. Then you want to save it. If the non-skid is just sand or painted on, then you don't have to save it. :) It's just as easy to redo it new!
Why on earth did you put that top coat on with the scraper? I know you cant see it but why not just roller a coat of flow coat and tip it off with a brush.
Looking good 👍. You know what they say about opinions 😂.. keep up the good work
Thank you! lol
Great video mate!
Thank you!
Fein scraper vs sawzall scraper?
I use both, depends on what needs to be hot, the Sawzall scrapper is quick and easy :)
Bro you make it look super fun lol! Makes me wanna change careers! LOL!!!!
Hahah Thank you!
It’s fun until you are on flat rate
Wondering why you didn’t paint your fuel tank?
How do I fix spider cracks on floor and gelcoat near transom
Your best bet is to check out Andy with boatworkstoday, hes got some videos on doing that :)
About how much resin did you need to complete this project? 2 gallons enough?
You might only need 1 gallon depending on the size of the panel
@@BornAgainBoating Thanks! I am doing a 48"X 27" hatch. I was thinking about getting a 48X24 pre cut sheet of coosa. This would leave a whole inch and half of each side of the hatch without the coosa that I would need to fill in with resin and silica. I'm not sure if this is a problem. Or should I get a full sized sheet of plywood or coosa and then cut it down?
48x24 leaves way too much uncovered. Going for the full size.
Great video's keep'em coming :)
Thank you! Will do!
Where could I purchase those panels
Its just plywood:)
@@BornAgainBoating can i use king starboard anti skid sheet for the flooring of the boat? because i have a 21foot boat and the floor is soft and the tank needs to change? i was wondering if i could use king starboard
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Nice job and video but that is not the right way to do that lol just kidding works for me and the boat JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🌴🛥⛱😃😊
Hahha Thank you! lol
Too bad I don’t live closer. I would volunteer to help and pick up some skills
Having another set of hands is always nice when it comes to laying fiberglass!
Great content
Weird I didn't get a notice this time. But I'm here now lol.
That's odd :( but thankfully you made it :)
Yeah sometimes it does that. I watch a few other channels, fishing, forging etc and it will do that on their notification also. Just a touch in the matrix I suppose. Hope you had a good fourth. I know the storm was breathing down your neck. Had to be better than mine. Went fishing Saturday night and steering cable broke. And naturally, no one has that cable so now I get to upgrade the complete steering system so I can get a cable for it. Helm and all. No worries just made the cost go up about 50 bucks. Lol. Have a good one my friend. Keep an eye on those 4 other storms coming.
Why go through all that? Just apply new glass to the new wood piece. No use in using that old worn out glass.
CK_32 the old deck has the nonslip on the topside that's why he wants to use it JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣😃
Also good luck matching the new gelcoat with the old! Also if you were a customer would you want to pay for five more hours labor?
Shit your awesome to watch. Bloody inspiring!
Thank you!
Was it a cost decision to use marine plywood instead of coosa board?
Not really, I wanted to show using wood because a lot of people will still use the wood when doing this :) I'll be showing some coosa work here coming up!
My boat went from a sleeper to a bow rider because of rotten wood.
I found out it was rotten because I fell through it.
Lol :)
@@BornAgainBoating I had to get stitches in my lag because the fiberglass cut my lag
Unreal
TT 🙌🏿
Soft Deck? There's pills for that.
never a soft deck on 3/16ths Alloy Plate.....oh I'm #1 EDIT.....REALLY, scrap wood pieces? and I used to think a ocean master was way more bullet proof,, do you remember that was their shtick? ''our bottom can take a .45 cal pistol shot or something like that. Miami boat show talk. 😄😄
Every seamen knows that wood and fiberglass is for boats and steel and aluminum are for anchors! Sheesh! :)
@@grumpysailor8132 TELL the feds and commercial fishermen
@@CaptDavesSportfishing Well most of the new ships and littoral ships in the Navy are full of Aramid (kevlar fiberglass) and the US Navy would love to build a Fiberglass Aircraft carrier because they are tired of having to retire them after 50 years because of all the metal fatigue (the nuclear reactors have indefinite shelf life). Just can't get congress to fund a $20 Billion Fiberglass Carrier (or the kickbacks from the Military Industrial complex) so they are stuck buying $6 Billion Steel carriers ;)
@@grumpysailor8132 Always some one in the crowd that takes it all wrong, and doesn't get it.
Ya'll are out of control!
:)