India has a rich history of scientific discoveries , and we should raise awareness about it, but i dont understand why hyper-nationalists makes false claims and spread lies to make them feel better,when Instead you can actually talk about the truthful achievements of Ancient India without any misrepresentation!
@neil_XXX "India has a rich history of scientific discoveries [...] you can actually talk about the truthful achievements of Ancient India without any misrepresentation!" ==================================== Pseudo-patriots (like Hindu nationalist SAFFRON SANGHTARDS) do it because it helps them to portray themselves as holier-than-thou victims.
Kyoki Ancient main Sirf Buddhism,Jainism ka Achievements hai,Jis per kabza karke Aajka brahman dharam chal raha hai,Phir Casteist RSS sanghi Or Brahmin Esko kyo batayege?😂
@@shrin210 Again, can ban Christmas trees? Or better yet can we ban Christmas as a whole? Its a pagan tradition that has nothing to with Christianity. So answer it without jumping all over the place.
@@tony16991 When did I say to ban firecrackers as a whole? Only for Delhi. If Delhi AQI is impacted by Christmas tree then we can ban Christmas tree in Delhi.
Collective unconscious is a thing, the fact that similiar themes come in popular conciousness EVEN TODAY speaks to the reality of this phenomenon and the importance of ritual in question. This guy is WAYYYYY out of his element about these things, so are you. also he's just blatantly disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. All the "proof" he's asking for is present in Sai's books and I can tell that without reading them. Hell, I only came across this guy yesterday but I know an actual intellectual when I see one and an idiot when I see one as well.
Islam had a golden age when they invited scientific temprament but soon when the Mullas took over, their population rises but so miseries. Will Hinduism go tru the same phase. I guess no as long as we have Hindus who can stand up to this non sense. Tks Pranav, u r doing great favour to Hinduism.
They secured their borders and didn't have an expansionary religion other than them inside their own border. Innovation is only possible when there is peace and people feel it's worth enough to do in the said nation...if not, then the best minds leave India. If, there was no Islam in India, India would be much more progressive since there would be no reactionary conservatism from the RW as seen today. Left can cry all they want about wanting progress but they never agree with the brutal methods used before the said peacetime to achieve that progress.
Before anyone says Delhi suffers from stubble burning and not crackers, the AIQ of Indian states and few Pakistani states are at the top of the rankings of the worst city in terms of bad AIQ and pollution. Which includes mumbai, West Bengal, etc. No stubble burning here
using loudspeaker for yelling 5 times is also recent one and startign was opposed by converted abdul saying its haram but when they got to know how they can spread fear in kafir area with this they all accepted it
And where do they stay exactly? Cause m sure light from crackers cannot go beyond atmosphere. What happens beyond that? Do they get lost? Or they stay in the atmosphere? In the troposphere or stratosphere?
"Newton discovered gravity" doesn't mean Newton discovered that earth pulls everything down. That's just common occurance we see in day to day life. The term 'discover' means here that he came up with the inverse square law. And not just earth, everything which has a mass attracts another thing with a mass according to the inverse square law...that is the discovery. I hope people realize it someday. And the apple story really needs to go man. I don't think there's any evidence that Newton understood gravity from a falling apple
@@truthtold3597 there's a logic to everything. I can cite sources if you're ACTUALLY interested but in my experience most people simply declare the things they don't want to understand as illogical.
@@_chosen1_ there are several ways to look at it: firstly there's the societal aspect. Ancestor worship and religion in general is omnipresent throughout human civilization, atheist civilizations collapse within 100 years. The most recent examples would be Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Western Europe and now China, two of them dead, the other two on their way out based on birthrates. Older examples would be Greeks and Romans which collapsed as soon as they abandoned religion. You'll find the logic and sources on this in Religion in Human Evolution: From Paleolithic to Axial Age by Robert N. Bellah and Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty by by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson Another way to look at it is the supernatural aspect, as in do ancestors persist in some form or another after death, for that I'd recommend Matter and Memory by Henry Bergson Process and Reality by Alfred North Whitehead Presence of the Past by Rupert Sheldrake Idk which part u specifically object to tho but pretty sure there's more than enough logic and justification for celebrating Diwali the way we do from EVERY point of view. Whether it be cultural, religious, civilizational, social or scientific. Basically why no one wins a debate against J Sai Deepak or Jordan Peterson or Alexander Dugin
@@_chosen1_ @_chosen1_ yt deleting my messages, too tired to write all that again. I'mma just list some books here: Religion in Human Evolution: From Paleolithic to Axial Age Why Nations Fail Process and Reality The Science Delusion The Presence of the Past Matter and Memory Understanding Living Systems The Life Divine You can find all of them on z library
@@Manish.89212Where? We didn't have crackers until the invention of gunpowder in China. It's not a tradition. It's an extravagance of kings and emperors who put them on for show in their parties and celebrations.
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works
@@unsung.2770ROFL . LawL. Make the law lawl. All human made laws based around the ethos and egos of general crowd, specially the majority of tht particualr constituency wo also had monetary n voice power. Times a changing. Era of a new us
Pranav u did a blunder in this video, sai deepak didn't claim that it has some scientific or logical reason, he just said it is a ritual in hindu society, so not consider it has a celebration 🎉 , and let hindus have equal rights like other religions in india
Let's have equal rights in destroying the nature. Also no scriptures says you need to burst those polluting and colourful crackers because there was no crackers like the one we burst today.
Then, ban crackers for all religions and festivals in India, except for national celebrations like the Republic Day and Independence Day. The government and state governments can burn crackers themselves and people can enjoy it like that. Why should any religion be allowed to harm the environment. Also, Diwali is all about lights and diyas. Not crackers. People are talking about Diwali crackers as it's celebrated everywhere in India even by other religions by burning crackers
Why do you think supreme Court banned fire crackers. For Pakistan?? It is for the people and pollution. For the goodness of Hindus. You cannot force another Hindu/other to smoke poison for your so called Religious Rights. Even Mads understand their own good...
Firecrackers are came from China , by Mughal, gunpowder devloped 200-400 AD , but Diwali celebration was still there before christ ," Ulka danam" meaning metaphorical or Celestial phenomenon, its not about firecrackers, but use of saltpetre and mixing it with charcoal ancient Indian was able to built smoke bombs and certain primitive type of gunpowder for battle uses .
Sai Deepak has a knack of playing with words which would be very appealing. He should have become an author of fictional stories. Now this person is so confused he mixes up fiction and reality and ends up trying to make all of us fools with his jugglery of words and appeal to tradition and rituals. Honestly, he needs psychiatric counselling.
He said the thing about sradha pakkha is pretty right in terms of popular believes and myths( specially about lighting candels and diya during diwali).....but unfortunately crackers came in India maximum to maximum 1000years aga from China so....firing crackers to light the path is just ignorance (like drunkard complaining about alcohol ban)
Hello Pranav, Deepak Sai sir was discussing the Hindu faith and their beliefs about ancestors. It's not acceptable to insult any faith. The Supreme Court only bans crackers during Diwali, which some might consider a double standard. Additionally, there is research indicating that only 0.2% of pollution in Delhi is caused by crackers, with the rest coming from stubble burning. Please avoid bias, Pranav
Firecrackers are not ordinary pollutants, It creates not only carbon dioxide, but many other harmful gases in less amount but this less amount of these gases are more harmful for health than other 99% pollutants, Firecracker also create noise pollution and after Diwali you will find residuals of firecrackers everywhere in Delhi, During Diwali the air of NCR already in bad condition, so it is better to not accelerate it by firecrackers
😂 Delhi's AQI hit 900+ post Diwali Morning. Do you ever know what it means ? Air Pollution is an issue . Ram & Fire crackers has no relations , so stop .
@@prabinshekhar7054 have u read scriptures? And I am not speaking about air pollution here, pranav was actually insulting hindu faith which is not good
My opinion is straight forward ban Firecrackers and should only be done by Central gov. itself on indipendece day, army day, and republic day in a greeny area safely, period.
J. Sai Deepak often quotes scriptures as they're evidence-based texts. If you consider your religious texts as facts, how can you label other religious texts as purely fictional? If your beliefs are true, then others should also be respected as valid. He is just another hypocrite.
He presents it as history and cultural phenomenon. As an evidence for practices being followed for centuries. You are the one who's confusing them as scientific evidences.
Sai Deepak is a wannabe Ben Shapiro 😂😂😂 That same speed to confuse the people by fooling them. Bursting firecrackers from the baarood that the West invented and then talks about colonial hangover 😂
sorry there is one correction. indians did not get this tech from british it came in first use in india on 1443 by vijayanagar empire on mahanavami festival. So probably there was a local recepie or it came from turks.
@@abc_cba Rubbish why do you think people say chinese invented "firecrackers" when those designs arnt even close to what we have defined "firecrackers" now. Fire crackers are still fire crackers designs have changed.
Wait, he's completely right tho There's no science to be discussed here, he's referring to a custom or a cultural practice that of great significance and it being unjustly banned for some arbitrary reason instead of making laws that actually make systematic change to society. Whats worse is that they made no attempts to hear out the opposing views
Yes as a matter of fact pranav has to realise whatever his belief is. He has to draw a line between policing psueduo science and making fun of religious believes. Which thid channel was found on and has been doing very well. If he now wants to start policing people on their beliefs aswell then i think that is where i would end my journey with this channel.
Sai Deepak is the Most nonsense spewing selfdeclared intellectual. Wherever he goes his social media fans misinterpret his work and declare as if he stating god lines.
How did the ancestors light up the sky 'for their ancestors' before modern Sivakasi firecrackers? And what about the Sanskrit words for sparklers? Is Sai Deepak suggesting Indians used gunpowder long before the Chinese did?
@@ashokvijay1144 It is a scripture duh. Do we look like abrahamics to abide by a book or two written by their cult leaders. Each and every story narrated by our grandma's are auspicious and are just as holy. A religion in building is better than a static one. So keep adding new materials as scriptures.
Deepak has finally caught up with his act today. The supreme court ruled against bursting crackers, citing environmental harm caused by air pollution. This clearly demonstrates his propaganda speech over everything which goes against dhaarmic rituals and activities. He believes he is a protector of Sanathani dharma.
lol abdul diwali is scape goating to avoid accountablity , diwali isnt it there but for a wekk aqi is 400+ in delhi ,haryana ,up ???abdul tell me that ???
@@n-hexane8271 okay wait. I'm starting to doubt about your credibility. Are you a Gluten-free Vegan activist or a straight-up Meat eater especially a Chicken breast eater?? I can't imagine you in either spot brother. decide yourself, What are you, brother? confirm it with your soul with conviction. then you can fight for the delusional cause that you are fighting for or ask the IT Team you getting paid for to post such stupid replies on the internet.
Deepak is most funny person I have ever seen 😂😂😂 he and his assumption........are too much funny......this grate soul has written a book based on WhatsApp fwd ......😂😂😂
People who have nothing to do in life wants to feel good . These proud boys sometimes wants to feel good for their ancestors sometimes for caste sometimes for religion.
Well , the festival remains same but the way they're celebrated can change according to time. If you wanna ban crackers , ban them in every occasion & festivals but not selectively.🫰
@@radhekarn2989 But here is the thing banning fire crackers is a wrong move. Lets be real the damage can be controlled by the government by being carbon neutral anyway. In my opinion if a major section of the society can be happy then its should precide over the carbon concerns. We are just delaying the inevitable and inturn making people unhappy. And about the birds and animals getting traumatised thats bad (this was not the reason for the ban).
@@n-hexane8271 No Global warming isn't inevitable. Earth usually takes few million years to change its climate drastically, but it's just some 50,000 years since ice age. We humans must have developed new technology to control earth by then. Ban on unnecessary carbon emissions is necessary.
1:03 appeal to ignorance 1:19 false dilemma 2:38 quoting out of context + false equivocation 3:01 Appeal to authority without knowing the constitutional rights 3:50 justifying cherry picking by personal incredulity This many fallacies in a fallacy checking video smh
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works
In Sai Deepak's talks, there I observe a troubling pattern: victimization, the visualization of fear, and the provocation of pride. This manipulation of pride can be very dangerous. Such rhetoric can dangerously escalate into hatred, which undermines unity and reason. Pride can be a potent force, when coupled with hate, it can erode the very foundations of constructive dialogue and societal harmony.
isn't the Chinese who invented the explosives, then how can it be a part of their ritual.......how did they used to lighten up the sky before Chinese discovered it.....I am guessing they used to have a big torch made by their ancient technology
Check your subreddit, there are a couple of posts about this firecrackers topic. It's basically a marketing gimmick started by the Sivakasi industry owners to sell firecrackers. There are no records of firecrackers in India before Mughal period. Gunpowder was invented in China around the 9th century so how can fireworks containing gunpowder exist before that in India since there is no documentation or evidence of such thing at all. There are some references in some old scriptures to ancient local substances like sulfur being used to light sparklers but these are nowhere visible today. Today's extremely polluting firecrackers are not part of ancient India's tradition.
The problem is not with firecrackers especially.. Akasha Deepam does not make any noise, it's literally a lantern. Yea sure, light up lanterns, leave them in the sky. What role does all the noise making firecrackers play? All they create is smoke and noise, which is the biggest issue during Diwali, that too in dense urban areas. But sparklers are boring right, good enough for just a few insta posts..
Bro do you know how the law around this works? It's not about what your beliefs are or testing the rationality of your beliefs. The debate was about producing scriptural evidence for a practice.
Pranav, I think you need to call down buddy. I watch your video and realised you didn't even know what he is talking about but jumping for debunking pseudoscience. The SC of this nation demands textual sanction because it's colonised themselves. Also Sai never said you believe in any mythology, if you don't want don't believe but SC of this nation demands it
Dear Pranav Babu, Thanks for the video. Rationalists make the mistake of to find rational basis of beliefs. The point Adv Saideepak making was the discriminatory treatment to Hindus when there is no such discrimination on Christmas, New Year, in victory processions of winning candidates in elections etc.. Regards, SC Panda
@@Agnosticcc-x3m I agree with you. Shashi does good and bad. But one thing he doesn't do is spread pseudoscience and make his contribution in dropping the average IQ of country.
Strawman, Hasty generalisation, oversimplification, ad hominem and misinformation. These are some of the fallacies I think you may have commited in your statement.
I found myself not disagreeing with j Sai Deepak since why should ritual or traditions be brought under scientific scrutiny. It's just a part of culture like a lucky charm. Unless it's hurting anybody what is the problem.
I'm in Delhi and we are literally breathing toxic air, 400+ AQI, I'm not blaming firecrackers burning yet of now but it'll for sure intensify the toxicity we become ignorant and let them burn crackers . Tradition were meant to be bless for life not to end it.
@@SumitKumar-yj7ekthese ban will be removed, by the time Christmas n new year comes . And they will burst crackers again. N no law or judiciary will complain. That's the hipocracy. It has been happening, all the time..
@@SumitKumar-yj7ekDiwali comes once in a year. These polution is caused by men made activities, which we do daily. From the cars that people drive to the factories polluting the waters .
I agree that traditions don't necessarily need to come under scientific scrutiny, but in this case, it causes actual harm to humans and animals. People say that "it's just 1% so it doesn't matter"... But it does! Because it's localized and occurs in a very short period. And that's just air pollution... The lakhs and crores of animals who suffer because of the noise can't even express their torment. It's hypocritical for the government to ban crackers, but we, as rational humans should stop bursting crackers for our own conscience.
@@alphabetagamma4142 if you are a vegan then only your comment about animals makes sense. If you don't oppose non veganism then don't selectively talk about animal cruelty
For that you have to read scriptures. They're reborn on earth after four generations have passed in your previous birth. Then you'll be born again on earth. It's important to learn about scriptures first, you can't know by simply Google search. Half baked knowledge is dangerous like this Pranav fellow
@@pavanshankar8010 my guy,dont keep faith & science on the sa.e table,whatever you said is our belief,doesn't necessarily have to be true,scientists like pranav are much more knowledgeable than you fanatics
@@n-hexane8271 do you see the phrase “pseudo-science “ anywhere in my comment ? To sum everything up, sai deepak is stupid af. He likes to complicate simple things and meanwhile in the background he escapes with all the relevant facts and questions which need to be answered in a particular case. If you ever hire him as your lawyer, good luck. You’re f*%#ed !!!
@@rollrtoaster3823 he is actually. But he is a jerk off material for some people. Some beautiful vocabulary with some 'aarambh hai prachand' as bgm, he's better known for that.
hi, Pranav , i really appreciate your work for doing rational works and spreading idead to the masses, my query was that you said in this video saying' we cant justify murder by saying it to be a ritual' and i feel its a tottaly rational statement, i just wanted you to make such voices loud and clear in non-hindu festivals and practices too, and i feel my request is equally rational and truthfull! i may give you many such occasions as examples for the non-hindu festivals being equally if not more flawed! thanks and i hope u agree!
don't bother brother. You seem educated, allow me to say a few words. Hindus and their festivals are easy pickings for these RUclipsrs. It is clearly a reflection of your intellect if you feel that he is going to "rationally" make videos on other non-Hindu practices. India is 80% Hindu. His engagement depends on criticizing Hindus because it feeds well with the algorithm. Here he is using J Sai Deepak as a tool to attract his audience. Observe carefully. He will strawman wherever you ask him to criticize other religions. He has a couple of videos on other religions but the majority of his content will be focussed on bashing Hindus. Moreover if he criticizes other regions, he might actually invite punishment under IPC 295A (Blasphemy). Criticism or bashing of Hinduism cannot do so easily. Will give you an example, you saw Hindu Gods in the movie PK, were they shown in a tolerable light? Was anyone killed for it? Was any punishment given? Now imagine if Jesus or any figure was depicted in a similar light. Just imagine. Btw, you pass around the word rationality like it is an apple. Are you aware that the concept of rationality has a secular chrisitian underpinning. Give it a day and really understand what rationality means. it is not in his best interest to criticize other religions equally. Afterall he has to stay alive or not get caught in legal trouble. Again, easy pickings.
If you took the effort of going to his channel and looking around, you could have saved 5 minutes of your life. He has multiple videos on Muslims and Christians. But no, you just had to say and behave like a typical bhakt does... Also, it is ethically right for him to criticise hindus more than other religions BECAUSE HE WAS BORN HINDU.
man i appreciate pranav a lot and i have taken alot more look into your channel than you! i have been with him sice he had over few thousand subs! and i feel there is a lot less videos on non-hindu criticising videos on youtube and it in itself is reflective of the fact that who is more acceptive of criticism!! now the question comes of that pranav hiself was from a hindu family therefore he should criticise more ! sadly for you this is an irrational argument cause it is a fact that there are whey less ex-muslims or christians than ex-hindus and it very much explains which side is open to people being free to have their own ideas and live the way life they want!! There needs to be equally more videos talking about non-hindu rituals and all! and i dont expect much of that cause obviously one of the guy mentioned above its easy to play a victim card for thr minorities!! thanks@@alphabetagamma4142
The entire RSS, Bajrang Dal are doing this 24 hours. Why do you need Pranav to do this? Even our union ministers have done nothing other than finding the dark sides of islam and christianity in last 10 years. Is not this enough for you?
@@prateepc1 Nah man i think u dont get what impact is! RSS doesnt reach new audiences as much as pranav can reach! RSS followers already know Islam and Christianity is shit! There are many Hindu hating orgs too like waqf and many muslim orgs too! It is a fact that there is no muslim criticising their own religion and it has always been a Hindu who has the guts to critic on own religion and its a very important culture which differentiates hindus from other intolerant beings! in no way are Hindu extremists good than Muslim ones but my point isnt that ! i hope u get it!! And yes what BJP and other union ministers have done is not enough for some religions like Islam which are a threat to world peace more than any religion! And i am in support to critic Hindus too cause this is equality and secularism in practice!! thats all!
Let's assume that the things said by J Sai are correct and there was such thought behind lighting lamps and bursting crackers. Even Catholics light candles on All Saints Day as a ritual. Fine! However, in the contemporary times bursting crackers is sadly a way to "create more ancestors" than to facilitate the earlier ones 😂. How are we going to justify this under the name of tradition?
Appeal to tradition doesn't make in this case because thats his argument that it is part of tradition/ritualistic and hence not to be treated as celebratory activity. I don't like him but he wasn't making a scientific claim afai understand
Yes you are right. He didn't provide the evidence because it is not possible for anyone to carry evidence for every public lecture. He submitted those scriptural references to court. And I think that's enough.
This guy probably doesn't even understand the meaning of tradition. He never said that it's a scientific fact but clearly said it's a tradition, and supreme court in interfering in it. He should listen to what JSD has said about State's interference in Religion...
Exactly. I have pointed out the same flaw in his argument in my comment. But he thinks he is too logical and tries to belittle others to prove his supposed logical superiority 😂😂 In his mind and of his followers, he seems to have accomplished that but actually he just showed how ignorant he is😂😂
Just mentioning the name of the text and the chapter takes literally 2-4 seconds. I dont think any organization would mind if the speaker took 4 more seconds.
@@Manish.89212 Even traditions have sources. Religious traditions don't fall from the sky... They usually come from some texts, scriptures or have their origins in mythological stories.
you should make a video ... differentiating religion vs culture... some people like who don't subscribe to the idea of god or other supernatural things... but extremely in love with myths, festivals, cuisine, etc. which are intertwined with religion. though i don't support religion but i definitely support culture. So I think you need to make a video that should express the perspective some science supporters that they aren't against culture as most believe
@Pranav Radhakrishnan About J Sai Deepak- His Stance is not "Fire crackers are good" His Stance is "Fire crackers are part of religious tradition" (it doesn't matter whether religion is scientific or not). Its about what people believed in. He is only trying to explain how the fire crackers are part of religion/tradition/culture to the supreme court because supreme court declared that "Fire crackers are nothing but a celebration". Its a legal argument, not scientific.
Puja is a ritual. Bursting crackers is a practice. One we have been doing for years. And its for kids. Grown people bursting crackers is fucking stupid. Secondly you can change your rituals and practices based on what the situation is in your life environment. We changed many practices and rituals when covid was here. Trust me, breathing hazardous air is worse! Banning Crackers isn't going to fix everything but its a start and its the easiest thing one can do. I think if diwali was in May, this wouldn't have been an issue.
Oh so you are going to certify a grownup that he is a stupid if he bursts crackers? Do you realise grownups have friends and family too? Banning crackers is the easiest one we can do: But is it necessary? The main source of delhi pollution is stubble burning. Better to fix a punjab farmer's problem by the same govt in power than the entire mindset of hindus of the country. Also in my area its not that bad after a day. Very happy being a hindu people actually acknowledge how flexible we are to changes. This person lists us as the most easiest to change. Daymn.
@@n-hexane8271 never said that there aren't OTHER things you can do for Delhi pollution. Tomorrow we can ban cars or sit at home like we did for covid and that will also work. But transport is necessary and crackers are not. Its not even about being hindu. Its not like only hindus do it on Diwali.. But you can still celebrate Diwali without them. This is a logical issue and sadly its become a politicised one to make you feel like you're a victim. You're not. Get over your insecurity of feeling like a victim while also being the majority in this country.
I like how you spot 'BS' from these speakers who support hindu people. But not a Single video where u spot 'BS' or criticize any muslim speaker, i wonder why.
bruh bhaiya for jsd its court vs religion , not religion vs atheist. now our court accept religious practice, u wanna say it is bad or good dosnt matter?
Just becuase you can't counter his arguments doesn't make him a catseisr, hate monger and blah blah blah. He's a SC court lawyer, an engineering graduate from Anna university one of the top State Universities of TN and a law graduate from IIT KGP. Refrain from using labels for people far more qualified than you
people like these see the world as " ye mera desh h wo tumhara desh etc etc ( this is my country thats your country ) " i hope start seeing as our earth our world ( one and only ) 😊
No thanks. 1st you should do that and maybe let some poor person sleep on the bed, eat from your dining table etc. Then maybe you can lecture us. Walk the talk 1st and then talk the talk
One of my friend replied to this 1:28 video that his ancestors aren't that DUMB if they know the way of coming to earth they even know how to go back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:45 All rituals may not be justified but bursting crackers does not even figure in the top 10 reasons for pollution. So the Supreme Court judgement has no solid basis. Now if the argument is that bursting crackers for 2-3 days in a year still contributes to pollution to some extent, one must ask what doesn’t ? If Sai deepak used rituals to support his argument before the Supreme Court he would have supported it with reference to relevant scriptures.
just because you don't believe in the "signifance of firecrackers" (which is fine, it is your subjective opinion), but that can't be the basis for denying that there was a history of belief in it.
Well vedas rigveda gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal and nishadha which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination, mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means) , bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed.
Providing you the full context of the shloka. in 18:41 of geeta Krishna identifies Varna with Guna, and not janma. I am not discounting the atrocities that the "lower castes" have had to face because of the misrepresentation of scriptutre. I myself am from a "lower caste"(chandaal, in cse youre wondering), however I dont prefer blaming the scripture. Instead I prefer to blame the people who have misqoted amd misrepresented the scripture. Here is the BhagvadGeeta from 18:41-18:49. perhaps this will help. ब्राह्मणक्षत्रियविशां शूद्राणां च परन्तप | कर्माणि प्रविभक्तानि स्वभावप्रभवैर्गुणै: शमो दमस्तप: शौचं क्षान्तिरार्जवमेव च | ज्ञानं विज्ञानमास्तिक्यं ब्रह्मकर्म स्वभावजम् || शौर्यं तेजो धृतिर्दाक्ष्यं युद्धे चाप्यपलायनम् | दानमीश्वरभावश्च क्षात्रं कर्म स्वभावजम् || स्वे स्वे कर्मण्यभिरत: संसिद्धिं लभते नर: | स्वकर्मनिरत: सिद्धिं यथा विन्दति तच्छृणु || यत: प्रवृत्तिर्भूतानां येन सर्वमिदं ततम् | स्वकर्मणा तमभ्यर्च्य सिद्धिं विन्दति मानव: || श्रेयान्स्वधर्मो विगुण: परधर्मात्स्वनुष्ठितात् | स्वभावनियतं कर्म कुर्वन्नाप्नोति किल्बिषम् || सहजं कर्म कौन्तेय सदोषमपि न त्यजेत् | सर्वारम्भा हि दोषेण धूमेनाग्निरिवावृता: || Translation. The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their gunas (and not by birth). Tranquility, restraint, austerity, purity, patience, integrity, knowledge, wisdom, and belief in a hereafter-these are the intrinsic qualities of work for Brahmins. Valor, strength, fortitude, skill in weaponry, resolve never to retreat from battle, large-heartedness in charity, and leadership abilities, these are the natural qualities of work for Kshatriyas. Agriculture, dairy farming, and commerce are the natural works for those with the qualities of Vaishyas. Serving through work is the natural duty for those with the qualities of Shudras. By fulfilling their duties, born of their innate qualities, human beings can attain perfection. Now hear from Me how one can become perfect by discharging one’s prescribed duties. By performing one’s natural occupation, one worships the Creator from whom all living entities have come into being, and by whom the whole universe is pervaded. By such performance of work, a person easily attains perfection. It is better to do one’s own dharma, even though imperfectly, than to do another’s dharma, even though perfectly. By doing one’s innate duties, a person does not incur sin. One should not abandon duties born of one’s nature, even if one sees defects in them, O son of Kunti. Indeed, all endeavors are veiled by some evil, as fire is by smoke.
@@pratik5696 no varna is decided by birth and not on one's profession ,a Brahmin will remain Brahmin no matter what and a shudra remains a shudra no matter what
@@mandeep1099 I have provided evidence to you. I can aalso point you to book 13 of the mabharata, in the Anushasan Parva, Section CXLIII for a conversation between Shiva and Parvati where Shiva expands upon the ideas. I am not discounting your feelings, I am only asking you to take a look at the evidence I am presenting. And also, you have not responded to the shlokas I have presented from the Gita.
@@pratik5696 ok I understood that, but go and ask any trad Hindu about the varna system and they will simply tell you that varna is decided by birth And in Hinduism Vedas are considered as the main authority right?? Let's see what Vedas say about caste system Shukla Yajurveda 31.11 : ब्रा॒ह्म॒णो᳖ऽस्य॒ मुख॑मासीद् बा॒हू रा॑ज॒न्यः᳖ कृ॒तः। ऊ॒रू तद॑स्य॒ यद्वैश्यः॑ प॒द्भ्या शू॒द्रोऽअ॑जायत ॥११ ॥ Translated as: The Brahmana, man of divine vision and Vedic Word, is the mouth of the Samrat Purusha, the human community. The Kshatriya, man of justice and polity, is created as the arms of defence. The Vaishya, who produces food and wealth for the society, is the thighs. And the man of sustenance and support with labour is the Shudra who bears the burden of the human family Another one is rig ved samhita 10.90.12 So you can clearly that see varna/jaati is decided by birth itself ( ps: I'm from a Brahmin family)
@pratiktondwalkar5696 puri padhe Gita. It's obviously talks about birth based caste system. Please note word "innate" in the translation you provided. Hope you understand its meaning. I also gave context of mahabharat of which Gita is part of. Now about your proof: read 4:13. In which Krishna says he divides people according to their guna in four varna ( which is actually based on their karma of previous life if you read Gita in context). But in 18:47 Krishna says do the duty of your varna even if you are really bad at it, don't do duty of some other varna even if you are good at it. How is that logical? If omnipotent God gave you varna according to your qualities then how come you can be good at something else? Is almighty God saying I might make mistakes? Why stop people from correcting that mistake? It's clearly a man made thing with contradictions
Sai Deepak is like an Imam in Islam rationalizing an indefensible position.... Pranav isn't time these guys get an IIT status for What's App University 😂
The problem with people like Pranav is their parochial attitude and high ignorance. You think you know everything. Alas! There's a huge difference between knowing something and understanding it. Have the balls to listen to the full speech and then rant about it. Your idiocy stands nowhere near JSD's intellect.
You have committed a strawman fallacy here. The argument Sai Deepak tried to make was regarding whether lighting fire crackers is an act of ritual or not. He does not claim it to be being scientific. The question before SC seems to be pertaining to that. He also reports that the SC judge refused to admit Diwali being a ritual and taken a stand that it is merely a celebration. The arguments here are based on beliefs and it has nothing to do with scientific accuracy nor did he claim it that way. You have made a assumption error here. Completely wrong.
He quoted a scripture which has no validity or historicity in Hindu canon . Kartik mahatamaya .. if it was a Vedic or Ramayana reference that would have been different matter
@@ashokvijay1144 May be true. I felt Pranav misconstrued Sai deepak's argument. On the other hand you didn't. I just wanted to point out the irony where he commits logical fallacies in an attempt to point out logical fallacies of Sai Deepak. By the way I am not a fan of Sai Deepak.
@@davidmanova4547 I agree on logical fallacy there although I don’t think court in India should decide on ritual or tradition basis . It should be based on does it violates individual rights or is it good for society .. Rituals should not be a consideration .
@@ashokvijay1144 If court considers a ritual or a tradition as an essential religious practice i.e, it's intrinsically part of the religion, the practice will be protected under the right to freedom of religion. That's the point Sai Deepak trying to make. I don't think he has any valid point to argue for lighting fire crackers as a ritual. Also given that pollution due to crackers is a threat to right to life of individuals , the precedence will be given to the latter over freedom of religion.
@@davidmanova4547 my point was court should not get into the business of essential practice . Constitutional rights and social good should be above essential practice .
The earliest fireworks came from China during the Song dynasty (960-1279).[5] Fireworks were used to accompany many festivities.[6] In China, pyrotechnicians were a much respected profession
3:17 he spoke about ulka danam, you said the video is long and moved on, you did not do the research on your own if they are facts or not, so isn't that YOUR BAD research , speaks a lot about you more than him,,, 7:57 so if the word is used and the word has a meaning ofcourse it does make it legit bro what are you even saying, the word has a meaning and if the meaning matches gravity ofcourse it does make legit don't you think. 8:20 how you suddenly switched from trying to prove the person wrong to preaching how we should be happy that someone discovered it, why does it matter who discovered itself conveys your intensions" .Talk low about hindusim and when facts start coming out say simply preach "what matters who discovered it we are all humans" array bhai what happened to showing Hinduism as .........................
Just use Google to see if there is anything like Akash deepam as a ritual, don’t need to watch videos to check if such rituals exists or not, and Sai Deepak also mentioned that evidence after evidence was submitted, which of course has been edited out, cause otherwise this video would seem baseless😂
Definitely indian university, especially when budhist empires opened educational institutions where all schools of thought used to be discussed an taught, there were many rational an philosophical knowledge india produced and even foreigners used to visit but these were ancient days, ancient india, and even if its 100 % truth we can't clame that everything west discovered an proved with maths are derived from some ancient books or universities. Its just narrow mindset, its like muslim claiming, all discoveries by great scientists are happening because allah only want them to discovered through these wise men, and its not anything beyond quran etc. But then if allah really wanted that discovery to come before humen, why allah wont choose a typical muslim fellow who is ideally faithful to quran, why allah is distributing such knowledge to so called kafir western scientists??
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works.
India has a rich history of scientific discoveries , and we should raise awareness about it, but i dont understand why hyper-nationalists makes false claims and spread lies to make them feel better,when Instead you can actually talk about the truthful achievements of Ancient India without any misrepresentation!
Exactly.
Yeah and not spreading misinformation on where/how Indians originated.
Because Negativity sells and everyone's buying it
@neil_XXX
"India has a rich history of scientific discoveries [...] you can actually talk about the truthful achievements of Ancient India without any misrepresentation!"
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Pseudo-patriots (like Hindu nationalist SAFFRON SANGHTARDS) do it because it helps them to portray themselves as holier-than-thou victims.
Kyoki Ancient main Sirf Buddhism,Jainism ka Achievements hai,Jis per kabza karke Aajka brahman dharam chal raha hai,Phir Casteist RSS sanghi Or Brahmin Esko kyo batayege?😂
As far as I know people welcomed Lord Ram by lighting up the city with diyas. When did bursting fire crackers become a ritual?
yes..
Can we ban Christmas trees, if I follow your logic?
@@tony16991Only banned for Delhi it makes sense. But it should be banned not only for Diwali for every celebration as well.
@@shrin210 Again, can ban Christmas trees? Or better yet can we ban Christmas as a whole? Its a pagan tradition that has nothing to with Christianity. So answer it without jumping all over the place.
@@tony16991 When did I say to ban firecrackers as a whole? Only for Delhi. If Delhi AQI is impacted by Christmas tree then we can ban Christmas tree in Delhi.
J Sai watched Coco movie and stole it's story.😂😂
@@AnkitPuniaFX that's why no one able to beat him in a debate ig
@@AbhilashKumar-j2rhe fought against LGBTQ and won.. wow..
@@AnkitPuniaFX lawyers face a W or L in a court case
We talkin abt debate
Collective unconscious is a thing, the fact that similiar themes come in popular conciousness EVEN TODAY speaks to the reality of this phenomenon and the importance of ritual in question.
This guy is WAYYYYY out of his element about these things, so are you. also he's just blatantly disingenuous and intellectually dishonest. All the "proof" he's asking for is present in Sai's books and I can tell that without reading them. Hell, I only came across this guy yesterday but I know an actual intellectual when I see one and an idiot when I see one as well.
@@FirstNameLastName-tm4tg To me, he feels like intelligent, but not wise.
Islam had a golden age when they invited scientific temprament but soon when the Mullas took over, their population rises but so miseries.
Will Hinduism go tru the same phase. I guess no as long as we have Hindus who can stand up to this non sense. Tks Pranav, u r doing great favour to Hinduism.
Tho Islam began with violence just like Christianity and etc.
@@rommelbengalithey had a golden age post the rapid expansion of the early Caliphate.
@@nananou1687 The early conquests you mean.
Religion is the problem
They secured their borders and didn't have an expansionary religion other than them inside their own border.
Innovation is only possible when there is peace and people feel it's worth enough to do in the said nation...if not, then the best minds leave India.
If, there was no Islam in India, India would be much more progressive since there would be no reactionary conservatism from the RW as seen today.
Left can cry all they want about wanting progress but they never agree with the brutal methods used before the said peacetime to achieve that progress.
Deepak stays in his cosy AC room (his brother is an NRI) while rest of Delhi & North India suffer from pollution
Delhi's aqi is now 400+ without diwali. Everyone knows crackers are not the culprit but propaganda must continue
Before anyone says Delhi suffers from stubble burning and not crackers, the AIQ of Indian states and few Pakistani states are at the top of the rankings of the worst city in terms of bad AIQ and pollution. Which includes mumbai, West Bengal, etc. No stubble burning here
When you stay in a AC room pollution doesn't affect you ?
I'm going to get central AC for my future home .....
@@zz2793 bro I'm from West bengal kolkata the aqi is around 117 here😐 while it's 400+ in delhi
his brother is nri? how did you know?
This Diwali cracker bursting custom is a very recent phenomenon that started only in the 1950's. Original custom is only lighting oil lamps.
using loudspeaker for yelling 5 times is also recent one and startign was opposed by converted abdul saying its haram but when they got to know how they can spread fear in kafir area with this they all accepted it
@@tarunyadav7026 Hey Prejudiced Arse.. what makes you think that I endorse this 5 times a day adaan nonsenae?!
@@tarunyadav7026 Bravo I will agree ,do it if it harms environment
Using a loudspeaker to proclaim your homiesexual love for God is also a relatively new phenomenon isn't It? Shall we ban those?
Also stop the daughter of goats during Ramzan just because someone did it in the past
If ancestors can come without ur help they can go back the same way right?😂😂
Or can't they go up in the day when the sky is naturally lit
😂😂😂 exactly... But may his ancestors are blind or what😅
Classic 😂
And where do they stay exactly? Cause m sure light from crackers cannot go beyond atmosphere. What happens beyond that? Do they get lost? Or they stay in the atmosphere? In the troposphere or stratosphere?
Cut gaya gojo, sukuna k aage overconfident ban rha tha..
Ro sbhi baithke, mujhe bhi kisine spoil kiya, me bhi ro rha hu
"Newton discovered gravity" doesn't mean Newton discovered that earth pulls everything down. That's just common occurance we see in day to day life. The term 'discover' means here that he came up with the inverse square law. And not just earth, everything which has a mass attracts another thing with a mass according to the inverse square law...that is the discovery. I hope people realize it someday. And the apple story really needs to go man. I don't think there's any evidence that Newton understood gravity from a falling apple
Bhai Newtown ke era mai bohot sari mathematical advancements ho gayi thi and that really should have helped Newton discover the inverse square law
@@user-ns3ks6ts4zMr obvious
Newton actually thought that "if everything around me falls down, why doesnt the moon fall?"
Even after changing address after your ancestors death, they are smart enough to find your home, but they still can't get out?
Religion has nothing to do with logic! They don't know each other.
@@truthtold3597 there's a logic to everything. I can cite sources if you're ACTUALLY interested but in my experience most people simply declare the things they don't want to understand as illogical.
@@FirstNameLastName-tm4tgshow your sources and logic please. I'm genuinely curious 🙏
@@_chosen1_ there are several ways to look at it: firstly there's the societal aspect. Ancestor worship and religion in general is omnipresent throughout human civilization, atheist civilizations collapse within 100 years. The most recent examples would be Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Western Europe and now China, two of them dead, the other two on their way out based on birthrates. Older examples would be Greeks and Romans which collapsed as soon as they abandoned religion. You'll find the logic and sources on this in
Religion in Human Evolution: From Paleolithic to Axial Age by Robert N. Bellah and
Why Nations Fail: The Origins of Power, Prosperity, and Poverty by by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson
Another way to look at it is the supernatural aspect, as in do ancestors persist in some form or another after death, for that I'd recommend
Matter and Memory by Henry Bergson
Process and Reality by Alfred North Whitehead
Presence of the Past by Rupert Sheldrake
Idk which part u specifically object to tho but pretty sure there's more than enough logic and justification for celebrating Diwali the way we do from EVERY point of view. Whether it be cultural, religious, civilizational, social or scientific. Basically why no one wins a debate against J Sai Deepak or Jordan Peterson or Alexander Dugin
@@_chosen1_ @_chosen1_ yt deleting my messages, too tired to write all that again. I'mma just list some books here:
Religion in Human Evolution: From Paleolithic to Axial Age
Why Nations Fail
Process and Reality
The Science Delusion
The Presence of the Past
Matter and Memory
Understanding Living Systems
The Life Divine
You can find all of them on z library
LOL, pranav WAS a Manchester United fan. If he still was a fan he would be so depressed by his own club😅
😂
Too true 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eth with a fa cup but yeah 8th in pl 😢😢
What an expression when he says "our ancestors come and we feed them"😂😂
He said it's a traditional belief. Please google the meaning
@@Manish.89212Where? We didn't have crackers until the invention of gunpowder in China. It's not a tradition. It's an extravagance of kings and emperors who put them on for show in their parties and celebrations.
@@Manish.89212lol traditional or not pathaka fodding wasn't supposed to be mandatory lmao
@@jen4ra-vs5og it's their festivals let them choose how they want to celebrate it.
@@Manish.89212 not when it gives trauma to thousands of birds and animals and damages the environment
Thanks Sai Deepak. I had a nice laugh. Till I heard you, I was having a bad day.
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works
@@unsung.2770ROFL . LawL. Make the law lawl. All human made laws based around the ethos and egos of general crowd, specially the majority of tht particualr constituency wo also had monetary n voice power. Times a changing. Era of a new us
@@unsung.2770yeah whatever knowledge is waist when ur on fascist side
@@jen4ra-vs5og Sai Deepak is a nationalist. Facist towards Bullas? I don't mind.
@@unsung.2770 🥺🥺🥺🥺fascism when bulla like we are not neighbor to a fascist bulla state that do same hypocrisy like jsd lol
As a Manchester United fan, I am happy with your mistakes while quoting Manchester University. 😅 But anyways, 🙌🏼 for calling all these bullshit out.
Pranav u did a blunder in this video, sai deepak didn't claim that it has some scientific or logical reason, he just said it is a ritual in hindu society, so not consider it has a celebration 🎉 , and let hindus have equal rights like other religions in india
Let's have equal rights in destroying the nature. Also no scriptures says you need to burst those polluting and colourful crackers because there was no crackers like the one we burst today.
Then, ban crackers for all religions and festivals in India, except for national celebrations like the Republic Day and Independence Day. The government and state governments can burn crackers themselves and people can enjoy it like that. Why should any religion be allowed to harm the environment. Also, Diwali is all about lights and diyas. Not crackers. People are talking about Diwali crackers as it's celebrated everywhere in India even by other religions by burning crackers
@@deepakmt92i am all in for crackers if they are not cheap made-in-china products and are going through government safety protocols
Why do you think supreme Court banned fire crackers. For Pakistan??
It is for the people and pollution. For the goodness of Hindus.
You cannot force another Hindu/other to smoke poison for your so called Religious Rights.
Even Mads understand their own good...
We used to light diyas. That's the light meant in older scriptures. It has been the way time immemorial.
We added crackers for our own fun
Firecrackers are came from China , by Mughal, gunpowder devloped 200-400 AD , but Diwali celebration was still there before christ ," Ulka danam" meaning metaphorical or Celestial phenomenon, its not about firecrackers, but use of saltpetre and mixing it with charcoal ancient Indian was able to built smoke bombs and certain primitive type of gunpowder for battle uses .
We had crackers in our own way, I agree that modern crackers are from China
@@unsung.2770 yes you are right i was ignorant about it , sorry 🙏
@@smws569yesthey get that from. Their neighbor china
@@jen4ra-vs5og what do you mean, please reply broadly 👍
@@smws569 i mean indian learn that from. China
Sai Deepak has a knack of playing with words which would be very appealing. He should have become an author of fictional stories. Now this person is so confused he mixes up fiction and reality and ends up trying to make all of us fools with his jugglery of words and appeal to tradition and rituals. Honestly, he needs psychiatric counselling.
Is he copying Ben Shapibo's style?
Rice converted fellow offended because a sanatani is talking about his religion!!
Its fine. Stop straw manning him. This is not all he is. There is more to him so please dont jump conclusions on this stream of rediculing.
Agree
He said the thing about sradha pakkha is pretty right in terms of popular believes and myths( specially about lighting candels and diya during diwali).....but unfortunately crackers came in India maximum to maximum 1000years aga from China so....firing crackers to light the path is just ignorance (like drunkard complaining about alcohol ban)
maximum to maximum muskil se muskil
@@morosejourneyman5436Shan bhai ke subscriber ho, bro? 😄
Bhai Mughal ke time aaya tha
@@padhlekyakarrhahaituyahanp1011no even older
@@padhlekyakarrhahaituyahanp1011 Yes
Indians had gun powder before 900AD?
No
Saltpetre was there
Very good video as always Pranav.... 😂😂😢 Manchester United 😂😂
Hello Pranav,
Deepak Sai sir was discussing the Hindu faith and their beliefs about ancestors. It's not acceptable to insult any faith. The Supreme Court only bans crackers during Diwali, which some might consider a double standard. Additionally, there is research indicating that only 0.2% of pollution in Delhi is caused by crackers, with the rest coming from stubble burning. Please avoid bias, Pranav
Hinduism is the most disgusting belief system
How could it be our faith if crackers were first invented in China?
Firecrackers are not ordinary pollutants,
It creates not only carbon dioxide, but many other harmful gases in less amount but this less amount of these gases are more harmful for health than other 99% pollutants,
Firecracker also create noise pollution and after Diwali you will find residuals of firecrackers everywhere in Delhi,
During Diwali the air of NCR already in bad condition, so it is better to not accelerate it by firecrackers
😂
Delhi's AQI hit 900+ post Diwali Morning. Do you ever know what it means ?
Air Pollution is an issue . Ram & Fire crackers has no relations , so stop .
@@prabinshekhar7054 have u read scriptures? And I am not speaking about air pollution here, pranav was actually insulting hindu faith which is not good
My opinion is straight forward ban Firecrackers and should only be done by Central gov. itself on indipendece day, army day, and republic day in a greeny area safely, period.
J. Sai Deepak often quotes scriptures as they're evidence-based texts. If you consider your religious texts as facts, how can you label other religious texts as purely fictional? If your beliefs are true, then others should also be respected as valid. He is just another hypocrite.
Well said ,brother
He presents it as history and cultural phenomenon. As an evidence for practices being followed for centuries.
You are the one who's confusing them as scientific evidences.
Why are you bringing up science when he's discussing a cultural practice?
You cant comprehend words or something?
You don't get his argument. He is arguing from legal perspective.
Epic!
Sai Deepak is a wannabe Ben Shapiro 😂😂😂
That same speed to confuse the people by fooling them.
Bursting firecrackers from the baarood that the West invented and then talks about colonial hangover 😂
sorry there is one correction. indians did not get this tech from british it came in first use in india on 1443 by vijayanagar empire on mahanavami festival. So probably there was a local recepie or it came from turks.
@@n-hexane8271 that era didn't have them as firecrackers as we have now, come-on!
@@abc_cba Rubbish why do you think people say chinese invented "firecrackers" when those designs arnt even close to what we have defined "firecrackers" now. Fire crackers are still fire crackers designs have changed.
Wait, he's completely right tho
There's no science to be discussed here, he's referring to a custom or a cultural practice that of great significance and it being unjustly banned for some arbitrary reason instead of making laws that actually make systematic change to society.
Whats worse is that they made no attempts to hear out the opposing views
Yes as a matter of fact pranav has to realise whatever his belief is. He has to draw a line between policing psueduo science and making fun of religious believes. Which thid channel was found on and has been doing very well. If he now wants to start policing people on their beliefs aswell then i think that is where i would end my journey with this channel.
Sai Deepak is the Most nonsense spewing selfdeclared intellectual. Wherever he goes his social media fans misinterpret his work and declare as if he stating god lines.
Firecrackers is a Chinese invention why is this guy pushing for it as Indian tradition
kyu ki chinese bhi kabhi jatt tha
How did the ancestors light up the sky 'for their ancestors' before modern Sivakasi firecrackers? And what about the Sanskrit words for sparklers? Is Sai Deepak suggesting Indians used gunpowder long before the Chinese did?
He cited Kartik mahatmya as scripture . Tomorrow he is going to quote “ Santoshi mata ki katha “ as ancient scripture 😀😀😀😀😀
@@ashokvijay1144 It is a scripture duh. Do we look like abrahamics to abide by a book or two written by their cult leaders. Each and every story narrated by our grandma's are auspicious and are just as holy. A religion in building is better than a static one. So keep adding new materials as scriptures.
Someone should go up to Deepak and say : Ja bey laude 😂😂
No body has guts 🤷♂️
Deepak has finally caught up with his act today. The supreme court ruled against bursting crackers, citing environmental harm caused by air pollution. This clearly demonstrates his propaganda speech over everything which goes against dhaarmic rituals and activities. He believes he is a protector of Sanathani dharma.
lol abdul diwali is scape goating to avoid accountablity , diwali isnt it there but for a wekk aqi is 400+ in delhi ,haryana ,up ???abdul tell me that ???
@@tarunyadav7026 btw whos abdul. Im ganesha da. Your least well known friend from neverland DA.
@@kurtwagner3059 Court should ban be-heading of goats for non eatery purposes in eid aswell.
@@n-hexane8271 okay wait. I'm starting to doubt about your credibility. Are you a Gluten-free Vegan activist or a straight-up Meat eater especially a Chicken breast eater?? I can't imagine you in either spot brother. decide yourself, What are you, brother? confirm it with your soul with conviction. then you can fight for the delusional cause that you are fighting for or ask the IT Team you getting paid for to post such stupid replies on the internet.
He is
Deepak is most funny person I have ever seen 😂😂😂 he and his assumption........are too much funny......this grate soul has written a book based on WhatsApp fwd ......😂😂😂
Your source for assuming his book is based on WhatsApp fwd......😂😂😂
People who have nothing to do in life wants to feel good . These proud boys sometimes wants to feel good for their ancestors sometimes for caste sometimes for religion.
@@user-zv5li4jt3j no idiot.......every educated one knows that his books are based on WhatsApp fwd....🤣🤣🤣
@@motherisape ohhhh yeah.
Exactly someone like you.
According to your own comment,lol.
@@user-zv5li4jt3j are you rosting yourself it makes no sense when did I identify to any community
Fire Craker Ritual Never Existed In Hinduism , It Was Only Lighting Deepaks
Well , the festival remains same but the way they're celebrated can change according to time. If you wanna ban crackers , ban them in every occasion & festivals but not selectively.🫰
@@radhekarn2989 But here is the thing banning fire crackers is a wrong move. Lets be real the damage can be controlled by the government by being carbon neutral anyway. In my opinion if a major section of the society can be happy then its should precide over the carbon concerns. We are just delaying the inevitable and inturn making people unhappy. And about the birds and animals getting traumatised thats bad (this was not the reason for the ban).
@@n-hexane8271 No Global warming isn't inevitable. Earth usually takes few million years to change its climate drastically, but it's just some 50,000 years since ice age. We humans must have developed new technology to control earth by then. Ban on unnecessary carbon emissions is necessary.
1:03 appeal to ignorance
1:19 false dilemma
2:38 quoting out of context + false equivocation
3:01 Appeal to authority without knowing the constitutional rights
3:50 justifying cherry picking by personal incredulity
This many fallacies in a fallacy checking video smh
Spot on!!
Constitutional right is not valid when you burn firecrackers and make others people's life like he'll
Equivocation or equivalence me farak nai pta kya lmao?
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works
@@unsung.2770 dude there are hundred of people more educated than Sai and they do not talk akin to him, that's not an argument.
In Sai Deepak's talks, there I observe a troubling pattern: victimization, the visualization of fear, and the provocation of pride. This manipulation of pride can be very dangerous. Such rhetoric can dangerously escalate into hatred, which undermines unity and reason. Pride can be a potent force, when coupled with hate, it can erode the very foundations of constructive dialogue and societal harmony.
isn't the Chinese who invented the explosives, then how can it be a part of their ritual.......how did they used to lighten up the sky before Chinese discovered it.....I am guessing they used to have a big torch made by their ancient technology
Check your subreddit, there are a couple of posts about this firecrackers topic. It's basically a marketing gimmick started by the Sivakasi industry owners to sell firecrackers.
There are no records of firecrackers in India before Mughal period.
Gunpowder was invented in China around the 9th century so how can fireworks containing gunpowder exist before that in India since there is no documentation or evidence of such thing at all.
There are some references in some old scriptures to ancient local substances like sulfur being used to light sparklers but these are nowhere visible today.
Today's extremely polluting firecrackers are not part of ancient India's tradition.
The problem is not with firecrackers especially.. Akasha Deepam does not make any noise, it's literally a lantern. Yea sure, light up lanterns, leave them in the sky. What role does all the noise making firecrackers play? All they create is smoke and noise, which is the biggest issue during Diwali, that too in dense urban areas.
But sparklers are boring right, good enough for just a few insta posts..
keya hai deepak me ? lappu sa ladka
next line-
zhingur sa ladka😂
Bro do you know how the law around this works? It's not about what your beliefs are or testing the rationality of your beliefs. The debate was about producing scriptural evidence for a practice.
Pranav, I think you need to call down buddy. I watch your video and realised you didn't even know what he is talking about but jumping for debunking pseudoscience.
The SC of this nation demands textual sanction because it's colonised themselves. Also Sai never said you believe in any mythology, if you don't want don't believe but SC of this nation demands it
Dear Pranav Babu, Thanks for the video. Rationalists make the mistake of to find rational basis of beliefs. The point Adv Saideepak making was the discriminatory treatment to Hindus when there is no such discrimination on Christmas, New Year, in victory processions of winning candidates in elections etc.. Regards, SC Panda
Sai is a blabbering BOY 😂😂.
dont give value for his speech..😂😂.
School boy stage speeches😂😂😂. SAI THE BOY😂😂😂
any goon who speaks fluent english can get fame in north india. its that sad.
Like Shashi Tharoor, right
@@Agnosticcc-x3m I agree with you. Shashi does good and bad. But one thing he doesn't do is spread pseudoscience and make his contribution in dropping the average IQ of country.
@@Agnosticcc-x3mCorrect... Shshi Tharoor knows nothing he only knows English
Strawman, Hasty generalisation, oversimplification, ad hominem and misinformation.
These are some of the fallacies I think you may have commited in your statement.
I found myself not disagreeing with j Sai Deepak since why should ritual or traditions be brought under scientific scrutiny. It's just a part of culture like a lucky charm. Unless it's hurting anybody what is the problem.
I'm in Delhi and we are literally breathing toxic air, 400+ AQI, I'm not blaming firecrackers burning yet of now but it'll for sure intensify the toxicity we become ignorant and let them burn crackers . Tradition were meant to be bless for life not to end it.
@@SumitKumar-yj7ekthese ban will be removed, by the time Christmas n new year comes . And they will burst crackers again.
N no law or judiciary will complain. That's the hipocracy.
It has been happening, all the time..
@@SumitKumar-yj7ekDiwali comes once in a year.
These polution is caused by men made activities, which we do daily.
From the cars that people drive to the factories polluting the waters .
I agree that traditions don't necessarily need to come under scientific scrutiny, but in this case, it causes actual harm to humans and animals.
People say that "it's just 1% so it doesn't matter"... But it does! Because it's localized and occurs in a very short period. And that's just air pollution... The lakhs and crores of animals who suffer because of the noise can't even express their torment.
It's hypocritical for the government to ban crackers, but we, as rational humans should stop bursting crackers for our own conscience.
@@alphabetagamma4142 if you are a vegan then only your comment about animals makes sense. If you don't oppose non veganism then don't selectively talk about animal cruelty
The ancestors coming to earth from heaven is in direct contradiction to beleif that souls are reborn after death. One of these has to be wrong.
For that you have to read scriptures. They're reborn on earth after four generations have passed in your previous birth. Then you'll be born again on earth. It's important to learn about scriptures first, you can't know by simply Google search. Half baked knowledge is dangerous like this Pranav fellow
@@pavanshankar8010 my guy,dont keep faith & science on the sa.e table,whatever you said is our belief,doesn't necessarily have to be true,scientists like pranav are much more knowledgeable than you fanatics
@@swapnaneeldas3227 I beg to disagree. Your faith in pranav's knowledge says a lot about your beliefs.
WHY DON'T YOU APPLY THIS LOGIC TO ISLAMIC JIHAD! SECULAR LAN#...
so do they burn crackers?
Ancestors know how to come. They don’t know how to go ?
Why is he so stupid and that too with so much of confidence?
How is this pseudo science?
@@n-hexane8271 do you see the phrase “pseudo-science “ anywhere in my comment ? To sum everything up, sai deepak is stupid af. He likes to complicate simple things and meanwhile in the background he escapes with all the relevant facts and questions which need to be answered in a particular case. If you ever hire him as your lawyer, good luck. You’re f*%#ed !!!
sai depak , jaishnakar hav become regular mainstream politicians ..theyve left their diplomacy back in days
Isn't Sai Deepak a lawyer tho ?
@@rollrtoaster3823 he is actually. But he is a jerk off material for some people. Some beautiful vocabulary with some 'aarambh hai prachand' as bgm, he's better known for that.
@@wtfifham3042 😂😂😂 you got me ROFL 😂😂😂..Sai Deepak is a lawyer , who craves attention from PPL like elvish Yadav's fan club ...
Sai Deepak was neither diplomatic nor a diplomat.
what are you saying man, JSD has never been a diplomat or a politician. Thats a false equivalance fallacy.
really shock that how people get tricked by these people.
and not check resources
hi, Pranav , i really appreciate your work for doing rational works and spreading idead to the masses, my query was that you said in this video saying' we cant justify murder by saying it to be a ritual' and i feel its a tottaly rational statement, i just wanted you to make such voices loud and clear in non-hindu festivals and practices too, and i feel my request is equally rational and truthfull! i may give you many such occasions as examples for the non-hindu festivals being equally if not more flawed! thanks and i hope u agree!
don't bother brother. You seem educated, allow me to say a few words.
Hindus and their festivals are easy pickings for these RUclipsrs. It is clearly a reflection of your intellect if you feel that he is going to "rationally" make videos on other non-Hindu practices. India is 80% Hindu. His engagement depends on criticizing Hindus because it feeds well with the algorithm. Here he is using J Sai Deepak as a tool to attract his audience.
Observe carefully. He will strawman wherever you ask him to criticize other religions. He has a couple of videos on other religions but the majority of his content will be focussed on bashing Hindus. Moreover if he criticizes other regions, he might actually invite punishment under IPC 295A (Blasphemy). Criticism or bashing of Hinduism cannot do so easily. Will give you an example, you saw Hindu Gods in the movie PK, were they shown in a tolerable light? Was anyone killed for it? Was any punishment given? Now imagine if Jesus or any figure was depicted in a similar light. Just imagine.
Btw, you pass around the word rationality like it is an apple. Are you aware that the concept of rationality has a secular chrisitian underpinning. Give it a day and really understand what rationality means.
it is not in his best interest to criticize other religions equally. Afterall he has to stay alive or not get caught in legal trouble. Again, easy pickings.
If you took the effort of going to his channel and looking around, you could have saved 5 minutes of your life. He has multiple videos on Muslims and Christians. But no, you just had to say and behave like a typical bhakt does...
Also, it is ethically right for him to criticise hindus more than other religions BECAUSE HE WAS BORN HINDU.
man i appreciate pranav a lot and i have taken alot more look into your channel than you! i have been with him sice he had over few thousand subs! and i feel there is a lot less videos on non-hindu criticising videos on youtube and it in itself is reflective of the fact that who is more acceptive of criticism!! now the question comes of that pranav hiself was from a hindu family therefore he should criticise more ! sadly for you this is an irrational argument cause it is a fact that there are whey less ex-muslims or christians than ex-hindus and it very much explains which side is open to people being free to have their own ideas and live the way life they want!! There needs to be equally more videos talking about non-hindu rituals and all! and i dont expect much of that cause obviously one of the guy mentioned above its easy to play a victim card for thr minorities!! thanks@@alphabetagamma4142
The entire RSS, Bajrang Dal are doing this 24 hours. Why do you need Pranav to do this? Even our union ministers have done nothing other than finding the dark sides of islam and christianity in last 10 years. Is not this enough for you?
@@prateepc1 Nah man i think u dont get what impact is! RSS doesnt reach new audiences as much as pranav can reach! RSS followers already know Islam and Christianity is shit! There are many Hindu hating orgs too like waqf and many muslim orgs too! It is a fact that there is no muslim criticising their own religion and it has always been a Hindu who has the guts to critic on own religion and its a very important culture which differentiates hindus from other intolerant beings! in no way are Hindu extremists good than Muslim ones but my point isnt that ! i hope u get it!! And yes what BJP and other union ministers have done is not enough for some religions like Islam which are a threat to world peace more than any religion! And i am in support to critic Hindus too cause this is equality and secularism in practice!! thats all!
"It has a name guys, it has a name, wow!"
😂😂😂 Nice
6:51 brother almost said "manchester united" instead of manchester university 😂
Edit: okay he keeps saying it throughout the video XD
i don't understand what was wrong with sai deepak?
jsd bhakts be like......
debate kyu nhi karte uske saath
as if pranav usko jeb mein leke ghumta hain
Is lode dhimmi se debate JSD karega, iski itni aukat h kya😂😂
Chomu dhimmi...is jaise ke arguments ko toh hum normal bhakt hi refute kar denge🤣🤣🤣
Pranav didn't even research a bit abt the scriptures
He just went on saying his opinions
Let's assume that the things said by J Sai are correct and there was such thought behind lighting lamps and bursting crackers. Even Catholics light candles on All Saints Day as a ritual. Fine! However, in the contemporary times bursting crackers is sadly a way to "create more ancestors" than to facilitate the earlier ones 😂. How are we going to justify this under the name of tradition?
Appeal to tradition doesn't make in this case because thats his argument that it is part of tradition/ritualistic and hence not to be treated as celebratory activity. I don't like him but he wasn't making a scientific claim afai understand
doesn't make sense*
Even if it is a ritual we should ban bursting crackers on Diwali & all other occasions. No B*S on this
Yes you are right. He didn't provide the evidence because it is not possible for anyone to carry evidence for every public lecture. He submitted those scriptural references to court. And I think that's enough.
This guy probably doesn't even understand the meaning of tradition. He never said that it's a scientific fact but clearly said it's a tradition, and supreme court in interfering in it. He should listen to what JSD has said about State's interference in Religion...
@@Manish.89212 hmm. What else can I say.
Exactly. I have pointed out the same flaw in his argument in my comment. But he thinks he is too logical and tries to belittle others to prove his supposed logical superiority 😂😂
In his mind and of his followers, he seems to have accomplished that but actually he just showed how ignorant he is😂😂
Just mentioning the name of the text and the chapter takes literally 2-4 seconds. I dont think any organization would mind if the speaker took 4 more seconds.
@@Manish.89212 Even traditions have sources. Religious traditions don't fall from the sky... They usually come from some texts, scriptures or have their origins in mythological stories.
Great work brother ❤. Need this kind of video 👌👍
Here's an idea for all the ancestors that wish to depart from earth : Just leave by morning. There's plenty of light during that time
The Manchester United...err .. university always makes me laugh. This was a good one Pranav, stay cool ❤
you should make a video ... differentiating religion vs culture... some people like who don't subscribe to the idea of god or other supernatural things... but extremely in love with myths, festivals, cuisine, etc. which are intertwined with religion. though i don't support religion but i definitely support culture. So I think you need to make a video that should express the perspective some science supporters that they aren't against culture as most believe
@Pranav Radhakrishnan
About J Sai Deepak-
His Stance is not "Fire crackers are good"
His Stance is "Fire crackers are part of religious tradition" (it doesn't matter whether religion is scientific or not). Its about what people believed in.
He is only trying to explain how the fire crackers are part of religion/tradition/culture to the supreme court because supreme court declared that "Fire crackers are nothing but a celebration".
Its a legal argument, not scientific.
Exactly this channel is losing its core ideology of countering pseudo science and not disrespecting the traditions in turn.
Puja is a ritual. Bursting crackers is a practice. One we have been doing for years. And its for kids. Grown people bursting crackers is fucking stupid. Secondly you can change your rituals and practices based on what the situation is in your life environment. We changed many practices and rituals when covid was here. Trust me, breathing hazardous air is worse! Banning Crackers isn't going to fix everything but its a start and its the easiest thing one can do. I think if diwali was in May, this wouldn't have been an issue.
Oh so you are going to certify a grownup that he is a stupid if he bursts crackers? Do you realise grownups have friends and family too? Banning crackers is the easiest one we can do: But is it necessary? The main source of delhi pollution is stubble burning. Better to fix a punjab farmer's problem by the same govt in power than the entire mindset of hindus of the country. Also in my area its not that bad after a day. Very happy being a hindu people actually acknowledge how flexible we are to changes. This person lists us as the most easiest to change. Daymn.
@@n-hexane8271 never said that there aren't OTHER things you can do for Delhi pollution. Tomorrow we can ban cars or sit at home like we did for covid and that will also work. But transport is necessary and crackers are not. Its not even about being hindu. Its not like only hindus do it on Diwali.. But you can still celebrate Diwali without them. This is a logical issue and sadly its become a politicised one to make you feel like you're a victim. You're not. Get over your insecurity of feeling like a victim while also being the majority in this country.
@@akshayde Well then all i can say is good for you.
Akash deepam is different. Well in early those time there were no light now our ancestor can be directed through lights
I like how you spot 'BS' from these speakers who support hindu people.
But not a Single video where u spot 'BS' or criticize any muslim speaker, i wonder why.
I Really appreciate you
It's needed to expose this type of stupidity..
Nehru ji added scientific temperament in constitution 🎉
Now that was a creative explanation 😂
bruh bhaiya for jsd its court vs religion , not religion vs atheist. now our court accept religious practice, u wanna say it is bad or good dosnt matter?
This is what a lawyer do. Making false interpretations and confuse the court. J Sai Deepak should write fictional books for kids.
He still is a lawyer and that too in tbe Apex court of India. May I know your qualifications dear sir?
Excellent Video Bhai Pranav,Yeh Deepak Sai Bahut Badaa Casteist Hate monger hai
Just becuase you can't counter his arguments doesn't make him a catseisr, hate monger and blah blah blah. He's a SC court lawyer, an engineering graduate from Anna university one of the top State Universities of TN and a law graduate from IIT KGP. Refrain from using labels for people far more qualified than you
people like these see the world as " ye mera desh h wo tumhara desh etc etc ( this is my country thats your country ) " i hope start seeing as our earth our world ( one and only ) 😊
No thanks. 1st you should do that and maybe let some poor person sleep on the bed, eat from your dining table etc. Then maybe you can lecture us. Walk the talk 1st and then talk the talk
I suspect you are from a first world country well established financially without border disputes with other in your comfy bed making this comment.
One of my friend replied to this 1:28 video that his ancestors aren't that DUMB if they know the way of coming to earth they even know how to go back 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:45 All rituals may not be justified but bursting crackers does not even figure in the top 10 reasons for pollution. So the Supreme Court judgement has no solid basis. Now if the argument is that bursting crackers for 2-3 days in a year still contributes to pollution to some extent, one must ask what doesn’t ? If Sai deepak used rituals to support his argument before the Supreme Court he would have supported it with reference to relevant scriptures.
As long as there are Jaichands like some, Ghori will always win over Prithviraj.
Actually "dukh toh hota hai" it's for themselves 😂
Why to light sky "to show them road". Our ancestor should go in day...
just because you don't believe in the "signifance of firecrackers" (which is fine, it is your subjective opinion), but that can't be the basis for denying that there was a history of belief in it.
very true
Well vedas rigveda gives definition of four varna, yajurveda mentions definition of chandal and nishadha which is proof of birth based varna system and discrimination, mahabharat has many stories about birth based varna system ( check what " sut" in sutputra karna means) , bhagwat Gita talks about paap yoni etc and says one must do work of varna he was born into no matter how bad he was at it, and never do work of other varna no matter how good he is at it, (bhagwatGita 18:47)....with this context all Gita is actually trying to implement birth based varna system and discrimination out of which caste system originated. So caste discrimination is a religious problem that needs to be addressed.
Providing you the full context of the shloka. in 18:41 of geeta Krishna identifies Varna with Guna, and not janma.
I am not discounting the atrocities that the "lower castes" have had to face because of the misrepresentation of scriptutre. I myself am from a "lower caste"(chandaal, in cse youre wondering), however I dont prefer blaming the scripture. Instead I prefer to blame the people who have misqoted amd misrepresented the scripture.
Here is the BhagvadGeeta from 18:41-18:49. perhaps this will help.
ब्राह्मणक्षत्रियविशां शूद्राणां च परन्तप |
कर्माणि प्रविभक्तानि स्वभावप्रभवैर्गुणै:
शमो दमस्तप: शौचं क्षान्तिरार्जवमेव च |
ज्ञानं विज्ञानमास्तिक्यं ब्रह्मकर्म स्वभावजम् ||
शौर्यं तेजो धृतिर्दाक्ष्यं युद्धे चाप्यपलायनम् |
दानमीश्वरभावश्च क्षात्रं कर्म स्वभावजम् ||
स्वे स्वे कर्मण्यभिरत: संसिद्धिं लभते नर: |
स्वकर्मनिरत: सिद्धिं यथा विन्दति तच्छृणु ||
यत: प्रवृत्तिर्भूतानां येन सर्वमिदं ततम् |
स्वकर्मणा तमभ्यर्च्य सिद्धिं विन्दति मानव: ||
श्रेयान्स्वधर्मो विगुण: परधर्मात्स्वनुष्ठितात् |
स्वभावनियतं कर्म कुर्वन्नाप्नोति किल्बिषम् ||
सहजं कर्म कौन्तेय सदोषमपि न त्यजेत् |
सर्वारम्भा हि दोषेण धूमेनाग्निरिवावृता: ||
Translation.
The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their gunas (and not by birth).
Tranquility, restraint, austerity, purity, patience, integrity, knowledge, wisdom, and belief in a hereafter-these are the intrinsic qualities of work for Brahmins.
Valor, strength, fortitude, skill in weaponry, resolve never to retreat from battle, large-heartedness in charity, and leadership abilities, these are the natural qualities of work for Kshatriyas.
Agriculture, dairy farming, and commerce are the natural works for those with the qualities of Vaishyas. Serving through work is the natural duty for those with the qualities of Shudras.
By fulfilling their duties, born of their innate qualities, human beings can attain perfection. Now hear from Me how one can become perfect by discharging one’s prescribed duties.
By performing one’s natural occupation, one worships the Creator from whom all living entities have come into being, and by whom the whole universe is pervaded. By such performance of work, a person easily attains perfection.
It is better to do one’s own dharma, even though imperfectly, than to do another’s dharma, even though perfectly. By doing one’s innate duties, a person does not incur sin.
One should not abandon duties born of one’s nature, even if one sees defects in them, O son of Kunti. Indeed, all endeavors are veiled by some evil, as fire is by smoke.
@@pratik5696 no varna is decided by birth and not on one's profession ,a Brahmin will remain Brahmin no matter what and a shudra remains a shudra no matter what
@@mandeep1099 I have provided evidence to you. I can aalso point you to book 13 of the mabharata, in the Anushasan Parva, Section CXLIII for a conversation between Shiva and Parvati where Shiva expands upon the ideas.
I am not discounting your feelings, I am only asking you to take a look at the evidence I am presenting.
And also, you have not responded to the shlokas I have presented from the Gita.
@@pratik5696 ok I understood that, but go and ask any trad Hindu about the varna system and they will simply tell you that varna is decided by birth
And in Hinduism Vedas are considered as the main authority right?? Let's see what Vedas say about caste system
Shukla Yajurveda 31.11 : ब्रा॒ह्म॒णो᳖ऽस्य॒ मुख॑मासीद् बा॒हू रा॑ज॒न्यः᳖ कृ॒तः। ऊ॒रू तद॑स्य॒ यद्वैश्यः॑ प॒द्भ्या शू॒द्रोऽअ॑जायत ॥११ ॥
Translated as: The Brahmana, man of divine vision and Vedic Word, is the mouth of the Samrat Purusha, the human community. The Kshatriya, man of justice and polity, is created as the arms of defence. The Vaishya, who produces food and wealth for the society, is the thighs. And the man of sustenance and support with labour is the Shudra who bears the burden of the human family
Another one is rig ved samhita 10.90.12
So you can clearly that see varna/jaati is decided by birth itself ( ps: I'm from a Brahmin family)
@pratiktondwalkar5696 puri padhe Gita. It's obviously talks about birth based caste system. Please note word "innate" in the translation you provided. Hope you understand its meaning.
I also gave context of mahabharat of which Gita is part of.
Now about your proof: read 4:13. In which Krishna says he divides people according to their guna in four varna ( which is actually based on their karma of previous life if you read Gita in context).
But in 18:47 Krishna says do the duty of your varna even if you are really bad at it, don't do duty of some other varna even if you are good at it.
How is that logical? If omnipotent God gave you varna according to your qualities then how come you can be good at something else? Is almighty God saying I might make mistakes? Why stop people from correcting that mistake?
It's clearly a man made thing with contradictions
Sai Deepak is like an Imam in Islam rationalizing an indefensible position.... Pranav isn't time these guys get an IIT status for What's App University 😂
He is giving speech not doing court case so he can provide you evidence, he name the so go and read them.
Scripture is not evidence and he knows that. He says this because scripture is evidence is his stance and he cannot budge.
Without scriptures, how can you talk about religious affairs? Or its customs? First understand evidence definition in law.
what are you talking about?
The problem with people like Pranav is their parochial attitude and high ignorance. You think you know everything. Alas! There's a huge difference between knowing something and understanding it. Have the balls to listen to the full speech and then rant about it. Your idiocy stands nowhere near JSD's intellect.
Ancestors come to eat here on earth, I thought Heaven have plenty of best food and Apsaras for your seva 😂😂
Pranav bro going crazy on Manchester United 😂😂🔥 Got it right at the end tho 👍🏽
You have committed a strawman fallacy here. The argument Sai Deepak tried to make was regarding whether lighting fire crackers is an act of ritual or not. He does not claim it to be being scientific. The question before SC seems to be pertaining to that. He also reports that the SC judge refused to admit Diwali being a ritual and taken a stand that it is merely a celebration. The arguments here are based on beliefs and it has nothing to do with scientific accuracy nor did he claim it that way. You have made a assumption error here. Completely wrong.
He quoted a scripture which has no validity or historicity in Hindu canon . Kartik mahatamaya .. if it was a Vedic or Ramayana reference that would have been different matter
@@ashokvijay1144 May be true. I felt Pranav misconstrued Sai deepak's argument. On the other hand you didn't. I just wanted to point out the irony where he commits logical fallacies in an attempt to point out logical fallacies of Sai Deepak. By the way I am not a fan of Sai Deepak.
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I agree on logical fallacy there although I don’t think court in India should decide on ritual or tradition basis . It should be based on does it violates individual rights or is it good for society .. Rituals should not be a consideration .
@@ashokvijay1144 If court considers a ritual or a tradition as an essential religious practice i.e, it's intrinsically part of the religion, the practice will be protected under the right to freedom of religion. That's the point Sai Deepak trying to make. I don't think he has any valid point to argue for lighting fire crackers as a ritual. Also given that pollution due to crackers is a threat to right to life of individuals , the precedence will be given to the latter over freedom of religion.
@@davidmanova4547 my point was court should not get into the business of essential practice . Constitutional rights and social good should be above essential practice .
aah i see anohter brown saheb doing slave of its colonizers ,without logic and sense just doing propaganda
Why can't the ancestors go back during the day 🌝
The earliest fireworks came from China during the Song dynasty (960-1279).[5] Fireworks were used to accompany many festivities.[6] In China, pyrotechnicians were a much respected profession
4:21 i tagged you there in the comment section for make a video on it. thanks you made it.
Good work
South indian hindus did not celebrate diwali. So this does not apply to them..
3:17 he spoke about ulka danam, you said the video is long and moved on, you did not do the research on your own if they are facts or not, so isn't that YOUR BAD research , speaks a lot about you more than him,,, 7:57 so if the word is used and the word has a meaning ofcourse it does make it legit bro what are you even saying, the word has a meaning and if the meaning matches gravity ofcourse it does make legit don't you think. 8:20 how you suddenly switched from trying to prove the person wrong to preaching how we should be happy that someone discovered it, why does it matter who discovered itself conveys your intensions" .Talk low about hindusim and when facts start coming out say simply preach "what matters who discovered it we are all humans" array bhai what happened to showing Hinduism as .........................
😂😂 Deepak really got me good this time 😆
Just use Google to see if there is anything like Akash deepam as a ritual, don’t need to watch videos to check if such rituals exists or not, and Sai Deepak also mentioned that evidence after evidence was submitted, which of course has been edited out, cause otherwise this video would seem baseless😂
People brust crackers at Christmas and New year too.
Which must be banned too.
But they only target, hindu festivals
ho gya ban
I believed with knowledge and wisdom you also get honest, but J Sai Deepak has proved me wrong.
Definitely indian university, especially when budhist empires opened educational institutions where all schools of thought used to be discussed an taught, there were many rational an philosophical knowledge india produced and even foreigners used to visit but these were ancient days, ancient india, and even if its 100 % truth we can't clame that everything west discovered an proved with maths are derived from some ancient books or universities. Its just narrow mindset, its like muslim claiming, all discoveries by great scientists are happening because allah only want them to discovered through these wise men, and its not anything beyond quran etc. But then if allah really wanted that discovery to come before humen, why allah wont choose a typical muslim fellow who is ideally faithful to quran, why allah is distributing such knowledge to so called kafir western scientists??
Where are these scriptures man that every right winger is talking about?
This is what happens when you aren't educated about the Law. 😂 Uneducated trying to make fun of Rituals. Read judgements and caselaws regarding Rituals and traditions. The law recognises them the Rituals are not something that happens overnight. There must be a time-immemorial practice of it to be recognized as Ritual and for the basis of this to prove in court scriptures are quoted. Sai is well-read in law and engineering will he be that unintelligent to talk like this? Read at least one book of Law guys that is the Constitution if not other hundreds of Law books to know how the country works.
Now what will he do as Newtonian law of gravity is obsolete today in physics! 😂