I really love listening to you playing. Each of your melodies inspires me. If only you have some time, could you share more compositions? It would be so awesome...
I have strung mine the other way around...low to high, that won't matter right? I just don't want to take off my strings on mine and have to buy another set yet! I had fun making mine. Best vid yet on this topic...so thank you tons!!! Cheers buddy!
Hey there Lyre fans! A lot of you have asked how you can get a recording of my lyre music. Well, now there's a way, but only for a limited time. From now until November 15th, i'm offering bonus lyre tracks including a recording of Deor as a donation perk as part of my indiegogo campaign! Check it out at igg.me/at/singthesunsreturn/x/12435860
Have you ever thought of installing sharpening levers like they use on celtic harps? That way you could change tuning much easier. A simple device that allows you to raise the pitch 1/2 step up.
Do more of 2:10 to 2:23 and you're a hit!!!! ! That's like Flaminco!!!!!I think picking from both sides of this Instrument is more valuable than strumming, strumming with a Lyre sounds like a kids toy; like a ukalalee
You would either have to put the strings closer together to fit more strings, or have an overall design that is wider to fit it. These instruments are usually historical replicas which themselves only had seven strings.
I've seen similar instruments (namely the talharpe/tagelharpa) played by stopping the strings with the fingers, maybe something like that could be done here as well?
Hi Could a Lyre have a back set of strings to make sharps or flat notes? I built a traditional Greek shaped Lyre once. With strings also on the back, you could get more range...
It sounded really good. but would be great if you could go through each of the tunings much slower one by one.string by string. so I could tune my lyre by sound. If possible that would be so helpful. Cheers mate 🇬🇧
I wonder if I could ask a question about stringing. I know that for 6 string lyres, it is recommended to use 2 classical guitar g strings, 2 b strings and 2 high e strings but I, like you, am building my own 7-string lyre. My question is, 'What do you recommend for the 7th string?' I can't find any information on it. My thought is either a 3rd light tension e string or a 3rd regular tension e. What do you use on yours?
i made myself a 8 string lyre inspired by this channel (and a couple others), and i used 2 sets of medium gauge standard classical guitar strings. my lyre however follows the scale length of a guitar loosely and as such i actually get mileage out of the nickel wound strings, making it a very bassy lyre. the only strings i don't use are the low E's, and the lyre's max pitch is C2. i don't know what the scale length of your strings are but i'm going to assume they're something like that of the one in the vid (this only matters if your string is going to be really long or under insane tension). i think you should try out that extra light gauge/tension E string, and if that doesn't give you the correct pitch or the string keeps breaking try adding a floating nut at the peg end, it'll lower the total tension on all of the strings but still allowing the desired pitches. you could also try using a wound string and lower the register a bit if you're too unsure. good luck!
@@LOCKEYJ Sure. It was here: www.cs.vassar.edu/~priestdo/lyre.html. I think there are other sites and vids that give the same info. I would NOT recommend the metal strings unless you want to be 'experimental' as I doubt the original instruments used anything but gut... Gut would be nice but I figure either nylon or better still Aquila nylgut is a reasonable modern alternative if you don't have the budget...
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Hi Jason, I am having the same predicament as you did. Do you have an answer as it would be very useful for me :) I want to use Nylgut but don't know which thicknesses.
I notice that on the very first tuning that the F is slightly sharp. This seems to be common among these early instruments. Do you hear it that way, or is it that it is just by chance a bit sharp (like a few cents sharp)? Just curious. Nice sounding axe! Thanks for the vid.
The strings look very thick. Are they actual gut? And thank you for the tutorial. I'm not very musical and have just built two different lyres. This helped a lot!
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Thanks for the nice easy explanation. I have a dilemma, I have built a very beautiful lyre for a friend but I don't know how to string it as in how thick the strings and what notes to tune to as mine has 9 strings, can you help ? I also need to buy the strings. Thanks in advance. Jon. UK london.
i think this depends on how long your lyre is - if it's longer or as long as the one in the vid you could get away with stringing it with 2 sets of nylon guitar strings. but that also means you'd need to use the lower wound strings as well. otherwise if the lyre is smaller you might be able to get away with adding in single ukulele strings, just get the ones for baritone and you can mix and match to your heart's content. so that'd be the 6 nylon strings from the guitar strings and 3 uke strings of your choice. you could also order some celtic harp strings off of amazon.
Could you clear something up for me? It seems to be ignored or not talked about for some odd reason, but it's very obvious to anyone that is right or left handed and knows it. LOL I am right handed and this lyre you are playing is a right handed oriented lyre, because, the heavy string is to the right when you face it. You'd be surprised how many people don't know this. For instance, Amazon doesn't know it. LOL Since there are really zero tutorial learning sites yet for the Lyre, if you learn by watching someone pluck or strum a right hand lyre and you have a Left hand like the fools at Amazon ship out, guess what happens? Mine arrived today, broken. I epoxied it and waiting for it to set. :o(
Really interesting! Is there are any historical basis for the equivalent intervals of the tunings you demonstrated here, or were these tunings something you developed by 'trial and error' in working out the possibilities and limitations of this form of Northern European lyre? I gave so far only ever played lyres with a minimum of 9 strings - 7 strings is still a mystery to me, particulary regarding surviving examples of notated ancient Greek melodies, which all seem to require more notes than the standard 7 string lyres of classical antiquity can actually provide.
i use standard medium gauge nylon strings, and it worked out alright for me. otherwise you could order dusty harp strings. imo the guitar ones are going to be just as good.
Hello is it still possible to buy one from you ? I am looking for a low tune 7 strings like this one, possibly one that can extend 3 or 4 tones higher than the tune you use here
How complicated is it to make a lyre? Can anyone proficient in woodworking do it, or would you need to be fairly advanced in the specific art of making instruments?
They are zither pins: slightly tapered with a shallow spiral thread so it "bites" into the wood. The top is squared to fit a zither (or hammered dulcimer) tuning wrench. These tuning pins are readily available online.
I see your point but honestly that is pretty retarded. Using the fixed system of other countries for relative positions is just dumb and nothing else than that. That is like somewhere else people would use "movable C". That's idiotic. If you want to name relative positions then call it 1, 2, 3 or whatever but not another fixed system. That is only good for confusion and nothing else than that.
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Ive built a couple of Lyre's but have not experimented with the tunnings,, youve got a good eye for them I can tell thanks for sharing it 🎶😎🎶
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Great to see you're still making videos! Very informative and helpful.
I really love listening to you playing. Each of your melodies inspires me. If only you have some time, could you share more compositions? It would be so awesome...
Awesome! Amazing musicianship there, too. Well done..
I have strung mine the other way around...low to high, that won't matter right? I just don't want to take off my strings on mine and have to buy another set yet! I had fun making mine. Best vid yet on this topic...so thank you tons!!! Cheers buddy!
Hey there Lyre fans! A lot of you have asked how you can get a recording of my lyre music. Well, now there's a way, but only for a limited time. From now until November 15th, i'm offering bonus lyre tracks including a recording of Deor as a donation perk as part of my indiegogo campaign! Check it out at igg.me/at/singthesunsreturn/x/12435860
Nice playing
I have no lyre, but I'm going to try and tune my guitar like this and pluck it like a lyre. Should be interesting.
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Great video! Please tell me more music videos are on the way.
Your finger so beautiful!
Hello, thank you for your videos, please would you please explain why some lyres are fitted from low to high notes, and some the other way ?
Hi , very nice video. Great info thanks. If I may ask what strongs do you use? Kind regards Morné
I use a 6 string Sutton hoo lyre and I am so confused about tuning. What are common tunings for a 6 string?
How much are they?
Have you ever thought of installing sharpening levers like they use on celtic harps? That way you could change tuning much easier. A simple device that allows you to raise the pitch 1/2 step up.
Do more of 2:10 to 2:23 and you're a hit!!!! ! That's like Flaminco!!!!!I think picking from both sides of this Instrument is more valuable than strumming, strumming with a Lyre sounds like a kids toy; like a ukalalee
can the anglo-saxon lyre be full chromatic
You would either have to put the strings closer together to fit more strings, or have an overall design that is wider to fit it. These instruments are usually historical replicas which themselves only had seven strings.
I've seen similar instruments (namely the talharpe/tagelharpa) played by stopping the strings with the fingers, maybe something like that could be done here as well?
Hi Could a Lyre have a back set of strings to make sharps or flat notes? I built a traditional Greek shaped Lyre once. With strings also on the back, you could get more range...
It sounded really good. but would be great if you could go through each of the tunings much slower one by one.string by string. so I could tune my lyre by sound. If possible that would be so helpful. Cheers mate 🇬🇧
You said you sell these lyres? How can I buy it?
I have one for sale if you're interestsed
Yes please !
Sounds great. What is the string gauge? And the size of pins?
Hi. I really want this Anglo Saxon lyre. Do you still make them ? And how much brother? Thank you 🙏
Very helpful!!! What strings do you use?
What are those string made of?
I wonder if I could ask a question about stringing. I know that for 6 string lyres, it is recommended to use 2 classical guitar g strings, 2 b strings and 2 high e strings but I, like you, am building my own 7-string lyre. My question is, 'What do you recommend for the 7th string?' I can't find any information on it. My thought is either a 3rd light tension e string or a 3rd regular tension e. What do you use on yours?
i made myself a 8 string lyre inspired by this channel (and a couple others), and i used 2 sets of medium gauge standard classical guitar strings. my lyre however follows the scale length of a guitar loosely and as such i actually get mileage out of the nickel wound strings, making it a very bassy lyre. the only strings i don't use are the low E's, and the lyre's max pitch is C2.
i don't know what the scale length of your strings are but i'm going to assume they're something like that of the one in the vid (this only matters if your string is going to be really long or under insane tension). i think you should try out that extra light gauge/tension E string, and if that doesn't give you the correct pitch or the string keeps breaking try adding a floating nut at the peg end, it'll lower the total tension on all of the strings but still allowing the desired pitches. you could also try using a wound string and lower the register a bit if you're too unsure.
good luck!
Hi Napier, can you guide me to where you found the info on what strings to use
@@LOCKEYJ Sure. It was here: www.cs.vassar.edu/~priestdo/lyre.html. I think there are other sites and vids that give the same info. I would NOT recommend the metal strings unless you want to be 'experimental' as I doubt the original instruments used anything but gut... Gut would be nice but I figure either nylon or better still Aquila nylgut is a reasonable modern alternative if you don't have the budget...
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hi what string gauge you use? can you use a regular nylon guitar string? thanks
I have built a lyre what strings do i get for it the page that once had that info shut down. I was going to use classical guitar nylon strings.
Hi Jason, I am having the same predicament as you did. Do you have an answer as it would be very useful for me :)
I want to use Nylgut but don't know which thicknesses.
I notice that on the very first tuning that the F is slightly sharp. This seems to be common among these early instruments. Do you hear it that way, or is it that it is just by chance a bit sharp (like a few cents sharp)? Just curious. Nice sounding axe! Thanks for the vid.
The strings look very thick. Are they actual gut?
And thank you for the tutorial. I'm not very musical and have just built two different lyres. This helped a lot!
Captain F!sh probably nylon.
RE SOME IF THE STRINGS THE SAME SIZE
i want one
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Did the Anglo-Saxons have lyres in the middle ages?
Thanks for the nice easy explanation. I have a dilemma, I have built a very beautiful lyre for a friend but I don't know how to string it as in how thick the strings and what notes to tune to as mine has 9 strings, can you help ? I also need to buy the strings. Thanks in advance. Jon. UK london.
i think this depends on how long your lyre is - if it's longer or as long as the one in the vid you could get away with stringing it with 2 sets of nylon guitar strings. but that also means you'd need to use the lower wound strings as well.
otherwise if the lyre is smaller you might be able to get away with adding in single ukulele strings, just get the ones for baritone and you can mix and match to your heart's content. so that'd be the 6 nylon strings from the guitar strings and 3 uke strings of your choice. you could also order some celtic harp strings off of amazon.
@@SassyTesla thankyou for your help
Could you clear something up for me? It seems to be ignored or not talked about for some odd reason, but it's very obvious to anyone that is right or left handed and knows it. LOL I am right handed and this lyre you are playing is a right handed oriented lyre, because, the heavy string is to the right when you face it. You'd be surprised how many people don't know this. For instance, Amazon doesn't know it. LOL Since there are really zero tutorial learning sites yet for the Lyre, if you learn by watching someone pluck or strum a right hand lyre and you have a Left hand like the fools at Amazon ship out, guess what happens? Mine arrived today, broken. I epoxied it and waiting for it to set. :o(
I am looking for a maker of lyres like these. I am very interested in one and would like to know if you still sell them?
Where can I buy one of your Lyres?
do you use modal tuning?
Really interesting! Is there are any historical basis for the equivalent intervals of the tunings you demonstrated here, or were these tunings something you developed by 'trial and error' in working out the possibilities and limitations of this form of Northern European lyre?
I gave so far only ever played lyres with a minimum of 9 strings - 7 strings is still a mystery to me, particulary regarding surviving examples of notated ancient Greek melodies, which all seem to require more notes than the standard 7 string lyres of classical antiquity can actually provide.
What is the make and model of strings you use? Thanks!
i use standard medium gauge nylon strings, and it worked out alright for me. otherwise you could order dusty harp strings. imo the guitar ones are going to be just as good.
Hello is it still possible to buy one from you ?
I am looking for a low tune 7 strings like this one, possibly one that can extend 3 or 4 tones higher than the tune you use here
How complicated is it to make a lyre? Can anyone proficient in woodworking do it, or would you need to be fairly advanced in the specific art of making instruments?
For the first tuning you say its basically a C maj scale and you say B,D,E,F etc but on screen it's written B, A, G, F etc - confusing!
Does every string have to be a different thickness? Can 3 strings be the same thickness so you only uses two sizes of strings?
You're fine with just two thicknesses - it's quite ok
So it is just round holes with squared tuning pegs? I need to know because i want to build one myself.
They are zither pins: slightly tapered with a shallow spiral thread so it "bites" into the wood. The top is squared to fit a zither (or hammered dulcimer) tuning wrench. These tuning pins are readily available online.
@@davidvanvranken9303 Thank you!
is a 10 string lyre capable of octaves or is a 32 string lyre better?
46 string lyre better
Thank you for all the videos and information...Do you still make Anglo-Saxon Lyres and how can I contact you for pricing?
What sort of strings do you use? I've seen lyres similar to this with metal strings producing quite a tinny sound. I prefer your sound!
I hear nylon
Please someone explain to him that do re mi... are c d e... and not g a b...
I see your point but honestly that is pretty retarded. Using the fixed system of other countries for relative positions is just dumb and nothing else than that. That is like somewhere else people would use "movable C". That's idiotic. If you want to name relative positions then call it 1, 2, 3 or whatever but not another fixed system. That is only good for confusion and nothing else than that.
"How do you tune, you're a liar."