We showed real résumés to an expert and the feedback was brutal
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2016
- We gave a career advice expert some real résumés and let her go to work with the red pen. It didn't go so well. Amanda Augustine from TopResume points out some big mistakes.
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its hearbreaking to know that out there, there is some overqualified person rejected from his dream job just because his resumé wasn’t matching the readers style.
You can actually be turned down for being overqualified.
I believe you meant to say qualified candidate. Yea that sucks.
Hey I heard someone was talking about me!
well it's not a dream job if there's such a management and hiring style
@@devon8372 which is bullshit, because there's no such thing as over qualified...
I wonder how many qualified people have been rejected because someone decided that their resume wasn't as pretty as they would like.
mythdeum if you can’t learn or follow directions to make a decent resume that just shows that you shouldn’t be hired
the problem is they are following directions.
a lot of places tell you to not use periods and to put your picture on it.cause some places don't like periods and want pictures.
it's not a matter of having a good resume.it's a matter of having a resume that looks good to the person viewing it which is very subjective and hoping your resume appeals to individual reviewer.
@@starandfox601 I feel like recruiters should have a "resume example"
Because you don't always know what kind of resume do you need
star and fox wait, who is telling people not to use periods? That is the basic rules of English and professionalism. I won’t even send a text without a period if I’m talking business.
@@cillbosby6226 your the type to say everyone who fails school is dumb.
"I wish they used periods. I wish these were sentences." When you use bullet points, you don't use punctuation. Most of the time, those are fragments and not complete sentences. Using punctuation would make you look dumb. The important part is keeping the style consistent, and even then, bullets don't use punctuation.
Thank you!! I didn’t use punctuation with my bullet points, it feels incorrect
Exactly
If you were to apply for a position as an English Teacher at a high school, I would expect appropriate scrutiny of punctuation et alia, but for any other job, there's spell check and peer review.
What a twit this person is!
I agree that they clearly don't understand punctuation anyway.
Exactly! This "expert" is just sharing their extreme opinions. You don't put full stops in a bulleted list. If I followed this advice and applied for a copywriter role, I would be passed up.
I was thinking the same thing. Who uses punctuation for bullet points? That's why I love to bullet everything!!
"Sorry, even though you're 120% qualified, I don't like your style, so I'm going to just throughout your resume. Oh, you have an MBA and 10 years experience? Well that doesn't matter because your education is at the top of your resume, and I don't like that. Do you even know anyone who works here? No? Disgusting"
- HR industry in a nutshell
That was a whole lot of projection, Matthew.
@@pearlsswine nah just the truth
@@pearlsswine the hard and brutal truth ☕️
@@pearlsswine They actually do that. Video from a HR coodernator went viral in Brazil, he mocked people's resumes and said some of them had more than three pages and no one was going to read through it. Also said he knew a girl from one of the resumes and "even though you're qualified, you're not in, sweetie, because i don't like you."
He lost his job and then later made a video crying putting the blame to his childish behavior on depression. HR is filled with shitbags.
You mean "throw out" and not "throughout?" Maybe she has a point after all . Not a strong one though.
I'm a software engineer. I'm good at writing codes, not dolling up my resume.
@@blaisetelfer8499 100% agree! My company want to hire another biomedical engineer and this HR lady insist on vetting the applicant ALONE when she doesn't even know what we are doing on-site. The audacity for god sake.
@@alialtica6791 HR is … questionable most of the times. They dont know anything about the job that they ar hireing for so they look for diplomas and certificates, maybe simiar jobs, but these things alone doesnt mean shit
If you actually watched and paid any attention, you will know she was commenting on how to make it easier for the recruiter, and honestly very basic business/professional writing. Logical and efficient layout, makes it easy to read. This is not preference, but bare being professional. If you have a problem with that I am not sure you would be pleasant to work with period. Unless you are just that good, which really is not for 99% of people.
@@fanzhang5568 "For the recruiter" Yeah but the thing is "professional look" is a lot of time different in each company. And professional look does not equal to quality work in most cases. If you are hireing for an administrator/ secretary etc yeah this matters but especially in SD/engineering jobs it does not.
@@fanzhang5568 Exactly. This video was not about "dolling up" a résumé, quite the opposite!
The video just stops . . . did anyone have a look at the editor's resumé?
oooohh shit
Frenchdayz no one looked at the editors resume, they knew the director and camera operator.
I don't understand... I understand the vid stops but why?
Omg that was funny
someone commented that the expert abruptly left because of personal reasons. don’t know why they couldn’t explain it in the video but there’s your reason.
her points were:
education❎
experience❎
credibility❎
her style✅
Bru, no comments
Going through resumes is tedious. Often times you’ll get hundreds of applications all with very similar levels of education/work experience. So yeah, if someone has a janky looking resume, we’ll just move on to the next qualified applicant. Why waste time trying to decipher a poorly written/formatted resume?
I’ve sent out hundreds of my resumes for internships so I understand the struggle. But it’s not easy for either party
educuation*
Hm, that to me seems like the position needs major reform. If the company doesn’t allow yall to state the actual wants/needs on the resume, then I think the time should be taken to actually read the material instead of “style”.
Whenever I hear “it isn’t easy for either party”, that means a shakeup is extremely necessary
Actually agreed with the point on education. If you’re an experienced hire, education should be after experience.
I could have sworn I heard from a different "expert" that you SHOULD include your hobbies on your resume, as it shows you're a well rounded individual with motivation, goals, etc.
Exactly! It felt like the lady in the video didn't care about who she was hiring. Shows that the company sees employees as replaceable cogs as opposed to individuals with personalities imo
@@counsellor_718 trust me, that is how employers see you. I don't care what they do at home, just if they can do their job. Being honest. So do all my business owner friends.
@@counsellor_718 hobbies only matter if they're relevant to the jobm
@@happylegoleon9209 There are always difference in opinions with these things I guess..
A friend of mine hit it off with his interviewers when he disclosed that he was a meme fan. I barely understand memes so I can't see it being relevant. Another got a position after he embarrassingly talked about his love of Kpop. The latter admits he never intended to bring it up. He wasn't applying to a company that has anything to do with the Korean entertainment industry but the employers liked it
@@counsellor_718 interviews are different than resumes, In interviews it is common , but resume is like an advertisement, Anything irrelevant will most likely not be good, If you want you can add one line about some hobby, but it should be at very bottom and it won't change anything in resume shortlisting.
Expert: I just want periods after them.
Me: That’s grammatically incorrect because they are bulleted phrases.
Bullet points aren't even supposed to have a period
Some experts are not really an expert after all.
should be "expert", honestly how tf can u be an expert at something so subjective lmao
Seems like they didn't pay attention to her own resume before hiring her :))
@@sl0523 experts are still human, and human can make mistake. Lighten up.
Every company should provide their own template using which candidate can build their resume so that they won't get rejected in screening. Because, if mine is not good, then I'll use yours.
I agree with you!
Good idea,
Because each HR have their own preference on how they wanted to read the resume.
HR 1 like to know what job the applicants have before, instead of degree.
HR 2 is more interested in your degree.
If my resume is rejected because the HR preference is previous job and i emphasize more onto my degree i would be quite angry.
@@manghariz2211 I worked as an a HR intern for fun few years ago. I was given the role of screening resumes. HR doesn't have a preference, they get the direction from the department who is going to hire. They cannot chose the wrong candidate.
@@bhaweshthapa4672 ahh
So it is the preference of the company
Thanks for the info
@@manghariz2211 yes, even the Job description is prepared by the concerned department.
This is a very clear example of how managers can actually ruin your company.
Yep, this HR person is just the worst. It's as if Karen was the manager of HR. Just pathetic.
Actually i find it reasonable
I dont wanna look at a ugly resume even if it is quality
I would send it back saying fix it and we'll talk
It should be CLEAR CONSICE AND QUALITY
it should be neat enough to be able to find the info in 6 seconds
@@seantaggart7382 One of the most expensive things for a company is to deal with a bad professional and let them go. It is way better to hire a good match than it is to work with them for a while and them fire and hire a new person. In the long term, this is not sustainable.
So, imagine have the perfect person for the job, better than anyone else. Now imagine throwing this opportunity just because your eyes got lazy and instead of hiring good people your job is to classify resumes as if they were posts on Pinterest.
She's the type of recruiter who would whine about someone using orange font on a white background, but would hire someone who writes that they program with MiaKhalifa DB' and 'spread Herpes STD to 56% of the junior office team' because she thinks that shows off technical skills 🤣🤣🤣
What’s funny is having all my information on a cv and then having to manually fill it out all again in the job application
Hahahaha why do they do thaaaaat. You just look stupid trying to find a flat surface to write on while waiting for the interview.
Exactly 🤣 when I see that, I judge them on how bureaucratic they are
Then later, they ask the same question again in the form that had been fill. Stupid karen
I once was told they do that on purpose to see if you're *actually* interested and willing to do the work of applying.
It’s because some job application now have bots to filter out your application. The bots sometimes can’t read a resume psd
Mentions there are 6 criteria that recruiters look for but doesn't say what those criteria are. So helpful.
Ikr
Yeah! It would be more useful to know what the criteria are rather than to check spelling!
Exactly
this video pissed me off
@@arushisingh930 passed you off to what?
"I want to speak to the manager"-vibes on this lady 😂
Karen Vibes
She does have a few good tips tho...
If this person was a male you wouldn't say that. Keep your sexism in check
She is expert. Explaining stuff she knows...Karen is used for racist, homophobic, entitled women.
@@bhavya5692 they'd be called male Karen So...
She's like, "it is vital, really, that our employees are the sort that can really think laterally and get those out-of-the-box solutions, while also being capable of working well with a team, which is why we throw out every resume which tries to stand out even a little and refuse to meet applicants halfway on anything."
lmao
Once a lady friend of mine couldn't find a job for over a year (in 2016), so she created a CV & put funny stuff instead of real answers:
- What qualities are the best in your profession - Pretending like I'm working, snitching on colleagues, pretending I'm the sh1t in my department etc and some other funny stuff I couldn't remember now.
She mistakenly sent it everywhere
One company made an appointment just for fun, but she turned up to be good at her job, so they hired her 😂
what an absolute chad
And everyone clapped.
@@pearlsswine lol, it's a true story, she's in IT
@@cry2love the whole bus did
@@JacobKinsley ex-play-in
1:45 The "punctuation" comment makes no sense. Bullet points are not sentences.
zammmerjammer Depends if the bulleted parts are fragments or full sentences that are not punctuated, which those were.
+N. Zhiv The bullet points shown here are not full sentences.
Alq Then it doesn't apply, does it?
N. Zhiv then*
zammmerjammer yeah ur right
But at the end of the day they end up hiring someone that knows someone at the company/place.
That's not actually as bad as it sounds. Hiring someone is a huge risk because of access to secure information, money, etc. Additionally, an incompetent employee can waste lots of money. Companies have a tendency to hire someone an employee already knows because that person is already known to be trustworthy. That's why networking skills are really important. I know that sometimes people hire a friend or family member who should not have been hired, but that's not what I am talking about.
Period. It’s not good for business
@@kamcorder3585 Nah, these recruiters don't even read the qualitications. They only judge by grammer and how neat your resume looks. How do they even hire for compentent? As for hiring someone whom someone knows. That is not a reliable way for a good hire even. I worked in a company once when the manager will make a big show of asking for recommendation but in reality, reject all candidates and bring in the one he wants because of office politics
Also, when a referral fee is offered. People will refer someone whom they hardly know eg, a friend of a friend, even an acquaintance of an acquaintance. Some even will refer strangers on the internet if theyvare from the same country.
Reading my mind. As soon as I scrolled to this comment I thought of state workers and the only way to get into a position with the state is to know someone. Lol
It's very much true.
Exactly. These are just tactics to reject other candidates.
"But this candidate has much better qualifications and experience"
"But that line he uses in the middle of the resume really throws me off. Let's go with my wife's sister"
The fact that someone can look at your resume and discard it entirely just because it's not pretty enough is the reason why I'm self employed.
LOOOOOOL this shit. Tired of working for other people.
I'd proudly discard a resumé with an icon cluttered "What I Like" section.
That and you don't have a social security number...
Facts
@@zebunker back in your closet moron.
Resumés are now actually rocket science. It's insane. Back in the day you would just walk up to a company, introduce yourself, say you're looking for work, they ask you if you have any working experience and that would be it, hired or not. Now it's a whole damn scientific process and you have to know how to write a resumé for certain jobs and etc.
Back in my day.....
Depends on the job
But I agree
Yeah, AFAIK each industry below has their own taste for resume:
1. Corporate/Banking
2. EPC/Construction
3. Tech/IT/Data Science/Whatever
@@daldi5211 And then you go to the interview and they ask you some random question.
I find it insulting that an HR expert proudly spends 6 seconds on each resume, when the applicant probably spent 6 days writing it.
The entire corporate world and all its attributes are insulting to humanity.
who spends 6 days writing a resume? hahaha whattt
Imagine having to read 100+ resumes per job posting and having dozens of job postings per month. You look for key words and go from there. If the resume looks jacked up to begin with, you immediately discard it.
@@VMpastore you just described how outdated and flawed this system is all by yourself 👍
@@addysaw alright genius, please enlighten me on a better system.
Realistically, there is already a better system that is way more robust than a random HR person reviewing a resume. Computer programs scan these documents for key words and weed out resumes that don’t fit. Plus, most jobs require an online application process that also works to vet candidates. Maybe a dozen or so candidates make it through this process and their resumes are forwarded onto a hiring manager. If the resume looks like trash, why would I even consider that candidate if I were the hiring manager.
You act like the information on how to write a resume isn’t readily available. A quick google search will give you all the information you need. Every university in the country teaches resume writing in capstone courses. Top candidates aren’t getting turned down for trash resumes. If their a top candidate, their resume is probably top notch too because they took the extra hour to figure out how to write a nice resume.
A resume is a small piece of the pie anyway. You still have to interview and make a good impression.
All honors, multiple degrees, knows 3 languages, misspells education
Yeah It's a typo but you obviously should go over your resume again after writing it.
@J. D. hahahaha that one made me lol
typos can happen cause of dyslexia.
someone who is dyslexia can't owes see their mistakes.
star and fox “owes see.” What? The phrase is “always see.”
Edit: Also, you can’t be dyslexia. You can have dyslexia, you can suffer from dyslexia, hell, you could be dyslexic. But, you can’t “is dyslexia.”
Just let your parents or friends look over your resume in case you wrote something wrong. It's that easy even if you're dyslexic.
When you look for people that can sell themselves, all you're gonna end up with is salespeople.
Business culture: “Innovate! Dare to be different! Diversity is crucial for building stronger teams!”
Hiring manager: “You mentioned hobbies on your resume so I lit it on fire.”
This made me actually laugh, thank you 😂💀
98th percentile on GMAT. That is really impressive, that shows the person is a fast, dedicated, and adaptive learner. Why the hell would you NOT want to mention that you are the significantly rare top in a standardized test?
It's when you're later in your career, people don't care about school once you have multiple years experience
@@TheMangoMovement exactly
@@TheMangoMovement They do bro.
@@aperture0 I don't mean university/college in general, I mean saying you have a high GMAT or straight A's or whatever. After a few years of work experience no one cares about that.
After 10- 20 years of work experience no one cares about your degree. However, your degree can get you in the door , it's the initial few jobs, just not the later jobs.
GMAT score is still relevant, especially the job you're applying for has something to do with math or you're trying to sell yourself as someone who's a good learner, who's discipline and smart.
Imagine being an “expert” for something that doesn’t have strict guide lines lmao.
ikr its very subjective hahahahaha
There actually are a lot of guidelines for writing a proper resume though.
@@kamcorder3585 those guidelines are still very subjective though, created by people who has their own interests and ideas of how a resume should look like. writing resume is not an exact science.
@@kiky.mp4 yeah but those guidelines exist for a reason, because companies get hundreds of resumes per job posting. The guidelines help your resume stand out. A proper resume draws the recruiters eyes to certain areas and increases your chances of getting an interview.
@@kiky.mp4 These are the types if people that have read tens of thousands of resumes, worked for several companies, and have it down to what is required to be seen. Sure, there are certain things that one may like more than the other (periods at the end of bullet points), but there are other things that everyone can generally agree upon. Like: Showing information that's relevant to the job (nobody cares that you did drama club in high school if you're applying for an engineering job), making it concise and easy to read, your experience is more important than your education at later points in your career, proper spelling, etc.
Literally the only coherent criticism she offered was the misspelling of education.
No, I'd say using a good font size and not crowding text was important, too. Arguably *more* important than spelling.
Typos happen from time to time, and that's understandable. But if you're extremely qualified and have NO spelling errors....but the text is too small to read, it won't matter anyway. Lol
@@Jhfisibejoso8pkabrvo2is8 indeed
Honestly I’ve been recruiting people - and I really like it when you attach a photo! It’s a lot easier to remember the person when you have 10+ resumes printed on your desk
in germany its weird to submit a resumee without a photo.
In India everyone attaches a photo
In Japan, yeah the photos are very common, kind of essential
The company she is working with obviously does not want loyal workers, they want people to get in and get out. Companies that dont care for personality in their CVs are usualy medium to large companies, because they have spaces to fill and your individuality is not of their concern
@@IBlackyl In Germany, your grandparents threw Jews into boxcars, so please don't.
This is an example of an outdated recruiting style
There is certainly value in it, but maybe a hint too much
@@wge621 actually, putting a photo can actually backfire because of biases from recruiters. Its better to not include it.
@@wge621 Photo actually shouldn't be part of it if it isn't for modelling or acting related
@@wge621 as you said, technically it is not supposed to factor it in, they should reject or select based on my qualifications and my skills, not on how I look. Putting a pic makes them to form an impression without even starting to read my résumé, I don't want that, and when I am hiring people, I won't prefer résumé which have photographe of candidate. You have to create an impression using skills not looks. I have heard from many places that photos shouldn't be part of it Because if the HR feels he or she doesn't look good, HR would get bad impression, if he feels they look good, he gets a feeling like "does he think he can only impress with his looks and not with his skillset" then also he gets bad impression. So it's good to avoid it
@@wge621 It's just that it's irrelevant to the position that I am applying for and it takes up space, and it may not be well received by the person seeing it, so I would suggest them not to add a photograph. And it's also not safe to put photo too, since résumé already contains lot of information about us and we would send it to many people. Some things said in that video are false I think it's not that accurate. It's just my point of view, I respect your opinion but it's just that I don't agree with it.
You shouldn't judge based on photograph. And interview questions shouldn't be culture specific unless its relevant to job. Even though he is Asian he may know about American culture. Even though he didn't smile in Photo, he may be a fun person to work with ( I just now read that part in the previous comment)
What qualifications do you need to be a resume reader? I want to shit on peoples dreams too!
Greg Gregwhich I really don't like how you didn't add a comma after "dreams". I find it challenging to read and I'll have to delete your RUclips account.
AK 47 you're hired!
AK 47 that's I really DIDN'T like.
AK 47 there's no mwahha mwahaha or mahaha in English language
AK 47 Mwahahah is not a proper noun and is not the start of a sentence so it should be Mwahahahaha not all caps lol
I always remember someone’s random statement of “I throw away half of the resumes i get, because I don’t want unlucky people to work for me.”
Live down the street from a restaurant, all my bosses in the past loved me, was applying for a server position.
Never got a call back
What a stupid excuse for reducing the work of reading all that
If I knew a hiring manager was doing that, I'd automatically stop supporting that business. Period.
That's absolutely ridiculous.
😂😂😂😂
Schools/universities: put education first and make yourself seem like a good, rounded individual
Industry: we don't care about you or you past we just want you to be able to do this one super specific thing
Basically employers just want common sense and basic logic. Everything else can be learned. Schools don't tell you this because how else are they going to scam all of you for thousands of dollars.
Especially if you're stupid enough to go for liberal arts.
If you are fresh out of college, education does matter. If you have 10-15 years of experience it won't matter.
Education only goes first when you are in school or just coming out of school. After enough years in the field though, it should go towards the bottom like she said.
Depends on the school and how much experience you have. Some law firms only recruit from certain schools so putting your education first would matter. On the other hand,iIf you're a doctor with 20 years of experience, I'm sure your college is the least important part of your resume. It's not that hard to use discernment on these things.
Well, I mean, it's a different kind of rewarding to be really good at one specific thing.. an expert.. but I get what you're saying,
The thing that bothers me though is how you’re judging someone who could potentially be the best employee ever based on what seems like mostly minor style preferences... 😣
True. I understand the misspelling part, because that really shows carelessness. But the style though.
@@sl0523 Or maybe someone is dyslexic? Most times you arent looking for people who’s grammar is flawless. And mispelling education is a simple mispell and the person didnt see it.
Please define best employee. Don't you know that the first impression is the last impression you can make? Being concise and clear in your resume reflects your personality. Won't you be bored sitting in a class of a teacher who is going round and round the topic, talking unnecessary things instead of coming directly to the topic and explaining it clearly and easily.
I am not an HR btw.
@@collan580 the problem a lot of employers have is that if the applicant misspells even one letter, it might mean they miss one period in a dollar number, such as writing $15.00 as $1500; overall, they might miss that one thing and it can harm the company.
@@theyousefkhan Yeah but different jobs different requrirements. A programmer a doctor, a scientist, an electrician doesnt need perfect spelling while if you are an accountant a secretary or lawyer you will need it because its part of their job.
I forgot to delete 64pt todo note in my resume. And I got interviewed because they wanted to know about that todo note.
I got the job. And my todo note became a legend (joke) in that company.
What does 64pt mean
@@kevin0xf681 You might not be able to imagine if you've never work with font.
64pt means 64 points in size of the font used. Usually, normal text we see on internet is ~10pt, if you did not chage any settings.
Which means, I have a todo note in my resume. And it is 6 times bigger than the rest of the text in my own resume.
@@SekRanger Oh, thanks.
If I ran a business, I wouldn’t require a resume or a college degree, if you can get through a training course, and can prove that you understand what your doing, I’ll hire.
Too bad you don't, I would apply.
Interviewers: im not gonna hire you because im too lazy to read to actually know more about you. Im gonna hire someone because their resume is easy to read and it matches my comprehension level.
If you have 100 resumes to read in an hour, you would feel differently. The ability to communicate clearly and convey a lot of information neatly are really important skills for an employee to have.
Once had a presentation were the person with the least words on his poster won because the poster looked good. He knew nearly nothing about the building he had to represent, while others had "uglier" posters with more words who overinformed... I am so glad i am done with this BS.
@@kamcorder3585 Depends on the job.
Exactly. The comments about no periods and the orange color.. like, it's really not that hard to read smh. It's like they're using these stupid reasons to filter out applicants when they should be using actual qualifications and what they're looking for in an employee.
Savage 🔥
As a someone who's looking for an employees, I like it when they include their skills and hobbies and tell me something about themselves. It shows ingenuity and creativity of the person. However, this lady is an "expert" so I must be wrong.
ᚲᚨᚢᛚᛞᚱᛟᚾ ᛃᛟᛏᛁ, I wouldn’t call her an expert. For example, she said the points needed periods, but that rule only applies to sentences. From the points that I could read, none qualified as a sentence.
This is a case of hyper correcting and is worse than not correcting at all, in my opinion.
That's why I'd say it's important to find out about the place you are applying at before putting together a resume for them. Are they a place that wants your personality, hobbies, and individuality or are they a place that just needs a qualified person to fill a role? This evaluator clearly is looking for someone who is neat, efficient, and precise, so she looks for a resume that reflects that. If someone has a problem with her style, I suspect they wouldn't be a good fit for that company culture. Apply somewhere you think you'll fit in better, and I think you'll find an evaluator who shares some of your opinions on what makes a good resume.
ᚲᚨᚢᛚᛞᚱᛟᚾ ᛃᛟᛏᛁ oh please 😂😂 why you lying?
Tell me then in your experience, when people leave a job is it because they are incapeable of doing the work or because they don't fit in?
"For an employees"? Please learn grammar. 😂
"Wow you have all the qualifications and experience we're looking for and you're even asking for a decent salary... but i don't like your resume, gtfo my office"
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“These dots are subjective” mate, your entire job is subjective. Get out.
Harr32xis so true😂😂👏👏👏
Ironic
Harr32xis yes but why should he tell them that he is bad with some specific language? It’s just pointless
REKT 🤣🤣🤣
Ok true
The resume expert is brutal? This whole comment section is brutal.
As it should be😂
The comment section is full of idiots.
@@andrewdoesyt7787 & you're definetly one of them😂😂😂
@@AcidiFy574 Your talking about yourself 😂
@@andrewdoesyt7787 that's rich coming from you
Oh wait, don't tell me that you're her in disguise
“Expert” doesn’t even know bullet points aren’t supposed to have periods
@Crunchy they don’t need a . in any situation
@@asmimaden6396 Nope, if it's a sentence you need a bullet point.
her: "These dots are subjective"
me: okay...
her: "I rather have 'Proficient' and 'Expert'..."
me: isn't that subjective too???
Imagine having to work with a personality like that.
Lol
@SASA SASA Yes
I am getting KAREN, vibes. 🥶🤮
Better than not working
I’d rather not work at all than with a person like that.
This lady makes it seem like the reason for high unemployment is because of their resumes
Well it is… they get hundreds of resumes per job posting so they are just looking for reasons to say no to you rather than say yes to you.
@@lucleadergaming3487 I get it but the person in the video doesn't qualify to be the reviewing the resume.
Some points she listed are totally invalid and look more like her personal preference then standard resume format.
"Experts" like these should be fired themselves, as they cost the company potentially good employees.
Your job is to find talented people that fit the job, and ensure compliance with regulations within and outside of interview rooms if you work in HR. Not to police resume appearance.
I would hire a person who can't spell properly over someone who can't forgive occasional human errors
I mean its not about the spelling as much as it is about the lack of attention to detail and just not being smart or dedicated enough to scan it through a grammar and spell check. It kinda shows the person is sloppy and doesn't care enough. Wouldn't do a second run of their work to check if its correct.
@@prerna5581 you would be surprised how many spelling checkers Donald actually notice errors.
You are aware that the people looking at the resumes go through hundreds if not thousands of resumes, right? Even if there is a small team to go through the resumes, to give a mistake the benefit of the doubt means you give other small mistakes the benefit of the doubt just to be fair. And trust me that's too much, since odds are that these resume-lookers have tons of other responsibilities they have to attend to. Hence why they look for any reason to toss the resume in the trash. Not to mention misspelling a very common word, especially when you have to encounter that word at least a million times in formal education, that's already a red flag. Especially when odds a person odds are has the time to proofread. And with spellcheck on Microsoft Word, there's no excuse for misspelling the word, "education."
It's not even a spelling mistake, it's a typo. UCU, accidentally hit the U twice. Sure, he/she should've double checked but cmon
I don't know man. Resume is a very important document for people. If you aren't even careful enough to check for mistakes in the paper that will land you jobs, you must be very sloppy and uncaring(but that's just my opinion).
This woman judges people for a living.
You are telling about about every HR Managers
@@vishaltaker9101 Correct. My own work is in IT and my heart sinks if I am to be interviewed by a non-technical person. If it's HR, then they generally have a list of questions and checkboxes prepared by some Tech person that is involved in the minutiae of their current project.
With a non-technical interviewer, the questions become a general knowledge quiz and, you stand of fall by those ticks in the checkboxes.
With a qualified technical interviewer, you can ask your own questions to clarify details.
I kinda want job like that
@@PhilJonesIII thats a nightmare, to be judge by someone who don't even know your job
@@novanoir8309 Get a job in human resources
did this lady just say she wanted punctuation at the end of a bullet point?
It's a sentence. The resumé owner wrote sentences with his bullet points.
@@reinebautistamercado4286 they’re not complete sentences though
You do punctuation if it's a grammatically correct sentence but leave it if it's an incomplete sentence
@@reinebautistamercado4286 doesn't matter if its a full sentence or not
@@alexanderbendall fairly certain it does matter
I want to see she making her own resume and put it on youtube so everyone can judge her resume 🙄🙄🙄
imagine getting paid to know that you crush peoples dreams and effort because their resume didn’t meet your highly opinionated standards based on a period
This video probably would have been more helpful/productive if it included tips to improve your resume or ways to fix these mistakes instead of just pointing out rather obvious errors.
If you were smart enough, you'd figure it out by yourself by now. Facts.
Except they aren't that obvious to most people.
It did include tips, like don't include your face, add periods after a sentence, etc.
periods after a bullet-point.......
Yep, she said it was because its a sentence but a bullet point isn't a sentence lol
EL CHOOBY LMAO Who even has time to have bigoted racist views on a videos like this. you people are obsessed.
Misanthropic 1up it works both ways kid 😂
mohammad moe Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw a red flag when she said that.
first world problems here.
Somebody please validate me here. She said she wanted punctuation at the end of the bullet points “to make them look like sentences”. It’s always been my understanding that since bullet point are sentence fragments, you don’t NEED periods at the end. Am I wrong?
No you are not wrong! I don’t know what this woman is on about?!
She is technically correct. If you write a full sentence, or a series of full sentences adjacent to the bullet point symbol a period should be appended to the statement. Nevertheless if you have only one or two phrases that comprise a full sentence it is wiser to avoid using periods in order to make the formatting look more consistent, in my opinion. I think it is best to treat the bullet point symbol like a dash and only use phrases and avoid full sentences to avoid the question.
When the interviewer who you submitted your resume is a KAREN!!!
Why did the company not just makes a standardized resumee with information what they wanna know (explicitly) and you just need to fill out.
So, she can go through the resumees more efficiently and look only at stuff that she finds necessary.
If you give the freedom to design your own resumee, expect things you dont like.
I am honestly impressed by this comment. You're totally right!
You should be educated on how to write a resume. Not everywhere will do that.
Plus with no standardised form, they can easily find out who bothered to research into the company and job place. Who took time out of their day and who went “oh ill just use the one from my last few jobs. Its all the same anyway” which is a key thing that these people look for.
Some company get you fill a web resume so it's standard. At least for the first part of the recruiting, when you have 1000 resume for only one job. After they can take time to read the real resume on the short list.
Yes i get that but i still stand by my point of not all places will do that. Therefor, you should be educated on how to write them correctly.
That's called an application form
This woman sounds like the type of person to ask for the manager .
Lmao 😂😂😂
Is her name Karen?
She's giving valid points, I'm not sure why everyone in this comment section is so salty about her doing her job...
she's just like my english teacher who points out all mistakes but never explain the right way to do things 😅..
She is good at pretending that what she is saying matters. I mean it only matters because she wants to feel like she is in charge of something.
This is worst thing I saw in a while and I look at black pill content regularly.
By her standards she’s gonna have a hard time hiring the right person for the job ... she probably wont hire her self
Right! The candidates might be qualified but if it's all about how a piece of paper looks, good luck. That's all one will be left with.
@@Acteaon the office can face bankruptcy
Almost every company does this... They recieve tons of resumes a day and the only ones that stands out to them are the one's they find good looking
😂😂😂
Imagine how she is with men lol.
"They don't care you like Dave Mathews band" Lmfao, that had me cracking up 😂
XxMr DeadxX 20 years wasted. if cant send proper resume.
*Me watching this as I'm about to graduate this year from college and look for a job* 👁️👄👁️
Curious how she literally did not care about the content of the resume. You could have two PhDs, but you made a typo in ‘education’ therefore you’re not able to do the job.
We reached the point that looking for a job is more an art work than skill based.
exactly
Some resume tips that are probably a little less outdated:
- Keep it short; one-pagers are the best
- Keep it personal; don't go crazy with buzzwords -- in most cases it's a "buzz kill"
- Most important information on top; if you just finished school that's school info. But once you progress into your career, jobs usually go to the top and education to the bottom.
- Summarize your experience; had a job? Explain in one or a few sentences what you achieved. Being specific on what you achieved is often appreciated as these are great conversation starters.
- 6 second rule; take a good step back and look at your resume (preferably through squinting eyes). What catches your eye first? Should you swap things around? Tip: In the western world we read top to bottom, left to right. Large and more colorful items attract our attention first.
Also, to give my two cents on the whole "picture and hobbies on resume debacle"; I feel it's okay to add a small picture and mention a few words on personal hobbies. I personally experienced that having a picture on my resume was the thing that got me through to the next round of interviews. They had interviewed over a dozen people and when they gave me the call-back they mentioned it was actually GOOD that I had a picture, just because they immediately remembered me as "her, I liked her", when seeing that picture on my resume.
Marry me 😂😂😂 you helped me by a lot! Thank you!
Thank god someone appreciates 1 page cvs my career adviser had NONE of it despite me having no work experience whatsoever lol
@@JacobKinsley Your career advisor is silly! Would you rather read a whole book when someone who knows his stuff can give you a great summary? NO! You've got better things to do when working through hundreds of resumées. Being concise is nice. Not only because you learn to "elevator pitch" yourself, but also because most job recruiters are lazy (I know it, I've recruited quite a few people by now and I practically always lose interest after flipping the page)
Thanks. This made a lot more sense than the video.
i dont like the whole picture thing but good advice
what the fuck was that second resume supposed to be? what a mess.
BlazeChronicGreen420 filmmaker lol. What do you expect? Even coming from the perspective of an aspiring filmmaker!
BlazeChronicGreen420 that one was a travesty
Tony Lam No way, he's definitely in filmmaking, on the technical side. Production, etc. look at his "strengths/skills". He's a filmmaker for sure.
Remember that resumes differ on what career you are in. She complains about the line but if you look at graphic designer resumes, they tend to have it. It separates the information, making it easier to find what section you want.
Also, she complains about the logo's that are very common in the graphic design and IT world
Like come on, it's the Adobe suite
That's just as common for graphic designers as the Microsoft Office suite
And everyone knows the word, powerpoint and excel logo's when they see them, because they see them on their computer every day
After 15 years of experience my educuation still is the most important part and deserves to be at the top. To prove I am educuated.
“They misspelled education” right off the bat had me rollin’ 🤣
I stopped taking her seriously when she said there needs to be Periods at the end of Bullet Points.
The Legend She’s not wrong. If you are gonna use complete sentences then they should end with a period. The better question is: why would you even use bullet points if you are writing complete sentences? Doesn’t that negate the whole point of using bullet points?
@@PopotolinKoTeteMo you can start off a bullet point mentioning a key point and then elaborate on that point as a full sentence
@@PopotolinKoTeteMo true
I like the irony that she doesn't even explain what credentials she has, that make her a credible instructor.
It's funny, because usually you would provide the "correct" resume first, and then based off that example tell us what is right or wrong. This legit doesn't help anyone.
Lols
We don't know what was left on the cutting room floor
30 years of randomly selecting people to be interviewed
Here’s the thing.
Most recruiters don’t come from a technical background.
They generally are Arts graduates who look for neat resumes. Not the most technical. But neat.
I understand that this is the game most of us have to play to get hired, but it doesn't make the process any less stupid and superficial. Some of the things she said are extremely trivial when it comes to someone's candidacy.
I am a corporate recruiter and I personally think it’s outrageous how hiring managers critique resumes
Nice username.
Hi there, what are the key tips I could use for my resume
1:57 "Recruiters are looking for 6 specific pieces of information"
Well what are they?
loveanianimeme - She is referring to the 6 categories of information needed on a resume: Education, experience, skills, honors, activities, and something else I forgot.
loveanianimeme Personally, I organize move into four main sections. that keeps it ultra simple and to the point, namely purpose (or objective), experience, education, and skills.
edit: I forgot about honors or activities because mine is visually correlated with skills since it's additional information that gives the reader a peer into what I'm about.
Purpleknite what even is honors and activities
Barnesrino Kripperino both in highschool and in college, students can receive awards for academic achievements such as graduating cum laude, magna cum laude, and Suma cum laude (with honors, with high honor, and with highest honor) based on GPA. there are other awards too like the Chancellor's list or Dean's list based on maintaining a certain GPA for a specific number of semesters or awards more specific to your department. for example, the departmental music award for academic excellence in all music courses etc. activities or organizations can include clubs that you were a member of, honor societies, fraternities or sororities, or volunteer work such as being a big brother or sister for the boys and girls club.
Purpleknite ok... so being a Cum Lord is what I needed... I think a lot of people qualify for that award.
This reminds me of a post that was talking about someone working HR who asked everyone he was training if they could parse through a resume in less than a minute, and when everyone smugly rose their hand, he was like, “yeah, you all suck at your jobs.”
Just a word of encouragement I had a mistake on my resume and I was offered two jobs. So just don't be to hard on yourself.
Something something period after bullet point
Ever since i saw that video ofyou being everywhere, i see you everywhere. Not a very good ninja if you are seen most of the time smh
Why are you like this
Guess whos back
Less likes huh?
Oh hi mark
Here in Spain you ALWAYS MUST put a photo of yourself in your resume.
Really? What if they just don't like how you look?
She literally said “unless it’s required.” Obviously your country has its requirements, she’s looking at a more US-central job market.
Dog文凯High Chill, it's just a comment. No need to write an essay over it.
In Germany too. I guess you could not submit a picture but that'd be considered weird
@@annacbrown1986 I did. I wanted to be hired based on my qualifications not looks and it worked :)
These hiring managers have to remember that it isn’t easy for people trying to get their first job. They should recall how they were once us, and how they were being rejected until they finally got a job, and hence that’s why they should be more lenient
I was anxious watching this video and then I read the comments now I am relieved that the following generation of recruiters doesn't think this way
The video kinda ended abruptly, was that on purpose?
Ken Ohara hello ken i work for businessinsider and yes she had a family emergency that had to be dealt with thanks for watching sir.
Marq but shouldnt they have edited an ending into the video??
Ken Ohara The tiny font was too challenging for her, she passed out
vin b that fucking comment caught me off gaurd holy shit that was funny lol
vin b Comment of the year 😂
bullet point arent sentences lol
Unlike your comment, which should end with a period.
David Bergara - Gonzalez no it shouldn't. Welcome to the Internet, here people don't write books, we communicate freely. It's not a formal speech, bananas
David Bergara - Gonzalez its the internet--what do you expect?
Jonathan Small yaaaasss!! Thank you! No periods after bullets. I pray this recruiter reads it!
Jonathan Small- yes! we are taught not put a period if it is in bullet form
I want to have a look at her résumé. If she is able to point out so much in others' résumés, I expect her's to be a marvel. This will be genuinely beneficial to everyone.
Haha yes, I totally second this.
“Someone’s going to look at this & go cross eyed”😹😹
People were told in school, don't use periods on a resume. Wtf
Rene Aensland The answer is obvious: people are led down a promise path begging for a job, and all these HR people are CAPRICIOUS as all-get-out. The answer to this: *OPEN UP YOUR OWN BUSINESS...*
Bird Topaz and then be put out of business when a larger corporation can do what you do, but cheaper. Opening a business is not a feasible goal unless you have something exceptional or interesting to sell. You try opening your own hospital and see where that gets you.
We have little to no CV educuation at my school (and most other schools) in New Zealand. Apparently a big selling point if our country is our world class education; frankly, the system is lagging behind the likes of the UK, and obviously even further behind most Scandinavian countries
Michael Spears dude set up a business in new Zealand then, CV writing! Or a résumé whatever you all it!
Michael Spears Well, I'm a Scandinavian and we didn't have any training in this field either. As for our good education, there have been great cuts which has led to more independent studying. Universities/Unis of applied sciences basically just give you books to read and that's it, no teaching whatsoever. And those PISA results of ours? Homogenous population. No one dares to say it out loud but that is why Finland is still performing well while Sweden is dropping quickly.
I thought those resume thingies were supposed to show how proficient you might be in a potential job, not how aesthetically savvy an applicant is.
Yes, but first impressions are everything. If you can't proofread your own resume, then you will likely be brushed aside by something easier to read.
@@lesterramos6468 yeah, this video isn't about proof reading buddy. It's just arbitrary rules made by some random lady
@@internet.pulp.tv. It's an example of how HR thinks. Believe it or not, every HR has their own way of accepting a resume because they get tons everyday and only the one's that stands out will appeal to them
Omar Jimenez We get tons of applications of savvy people m8, really good people. Discarding is REALLY easy, always proofread your application because that would probably be the difference between getting a job or not.
It's not about aesthetics. It's about efficiency. People read CVs in less than a minute. If you can't properly display your qualifications, then there's no reason someone should hire you.
She wasn't brutal. She was simply being realistic.
From the comments I expected the person from the video to be really hard on people, but she had valid points. Ya’ll are so emotional
Most business schools require this format with education at the top. If she’s an expert, she would know this.
I think that only applies if you dont have any work experience
You obviously haven't had many jobs
its a school, not a job. Work experience is better than education 10+ years down the line.
In corporate jobs they care about your education & what degree you have. Especially big corporate like tech & finance / accounting
> Most business schools
operative word being schools
By her standards, she prob wouldn't hire herself
She wouldn't get past the phone interview with that annoying nasally voice.
Lmaooo hahah
Her points are mostly valid. A lot of people want to work in my firm and i know of resumes that are just thrown out for misspelling or poor formatting. The photo thing is a bit weird for the US but common practice in other countries.
@Danilo Boskovic I work in one of the largest investment banks in the world, so education is naturally an important element. My point is that we get so many resumes and have so much to select from that resume errors/format are being used to eliminate applicants, so no need to be concerned about our talent pool.
The thought is that if you can't put a good resume together, you don't have the basic skills. I am also not HR, but I've seen this happen, quite frequently. That's just the reality in the corporate world. If you don't have an enticing resume, then good luck finding a job.
PS. jobs that don't require an education also probably don't require resumes
Austin Nguyen she can’t spell education so
I'm a blue collar worker and when my boss seek new workers all he cares about is whether you can do the job or not. No paperwork required. And i'm grateful for that
Recruiter: “why don’t you use punctuations correctly, education after work experience, and your photos on the top left of 1st page?”
Me: “i thought i said i was accounting major, not literature.”
Find a professional hr not a professional nitpicker
Facts
That anamil doesn't exist lol
"Professional HR" is an oxymoron. Unlike most HR "professionals," she actually bothered to look at the resumes.
@@1ex1uger-prank-calls HR is technically a professional job because you need to have a certification. I would say it's more "professional" than programming as certifications in that field barely come into play.
@@KRYMauL A certification in nonsense. That's like saying a doctorate in feminist studies carries more weight than a bachelor's in physics or an associates in electrical theory.
As many people have already pointed out. You DO NOT put periods if you are using bullet points, EVER. It is grammatically incorrect to do so. The whole point of a bullet is that you are not using a full sentence. The rest of t makes sense though.
This absolutely incorrect. There are many instances when bulleted items get punctuation. Go to Amazon buy a copy of Strunk and White. Basic middle school grammar book.
WTF? YOU DO put periods if you're using bullet point UNLESS it's a short phrase or one word.
Vanessa R. You are never supposed to put sentences in bullet point form. That defeats the purpose.
@@gfreakand4eyes LOLOlOlOLOLOLOLOL have you ever read a thesis, an article, a protocol, a magazine? A bullet point is use to SYNTHESIZE whatever thing you want the reader to pay attention to. It can be a word or a sentence, it doesn't defeat the purpose at all.
Vanessa R. Lol. I’m a doctor. I’ve written a dissertation. The rest of what you said doesn’t warrant a response from me.
From now on I'm gonna misspell "Education" on my resume on purpose just so that I don't end up working at a place where they value my spelling skills on top of my years of working experience.
Don’t give ideas to some people, they’ll need a job and then do this
Thanks for the advice
By her standards, I'm never getting a job...Oh well
Abdurrahman Alyafaee pretty sure that's why she's an expert lol
lol!
"by her standards" Her standards are very simple and straight forward. All these resume (except for one) are people going overboard. Don't fill your resume with random shit that has nothing to do with the job and make sure you don't make any spelling/grammar errors.
if you can afford to say oh well, you don't need or want a job.
lainey marie I said "oh well" in preparation for what the world has planned for me.
It doesn't seem like you would need a professional to notice these things
Freddy Pearsall Well then they wouldnt happen in the first place
But it gives validity to people like her who need it since they never did anything else productive with their lives.
Freddy Pearsall nor did it require a "professional" to evaluate résumés.
I've had 50 year old teachers that doesn't know how to spell.
NihilisticEntropy I don't know why white people keep mentioning "diversity hires". Shit I'm black and I'd love to be hired ! ROFL it's actually harder for me to get a job than a lot of the less experienced white ppl that I know ROFL.
My company just gave me a coding test and asked how I would handle some software development related situation or the tech I would use during interview. They didn't even look at my resume...
I knew because they asked out of curiosity about my university major after weeks into employment
It’s honestly just our society in general, we want streamlined results presented neatly in numbers and concise phrases without having to look too hard at the individual themselves because that has been accepted as “efficient”. It starts in school and translates into the professional world. Humanity is sad in these cases.