if you liked my french bread, consider sharing this video with a friend and commenting below to appease The Algorithm. Here's a writing prompt: Would you qualify to be Melissa's friend? I sure as heck didn't. - Sabrina
Here’s a resume tip to appease The Algorithm. Instead of saying “I changed a lightbulb” say “I single-handedly managed the successful upgrade and deployment of new environmental illumination system with zero cost overruns and zero safety incidents.” Also, GPA for those who read the description.
The frustrating thing about applying for a job is that they say "you dont need anything here that you learned in college!" Well, i didnt go to college! "You cant work here then."
I've hired non-grads that have worked out wonderfully. And I've hired college grads that did not work out well. I've had the good fortune to work for a small company that gave me the flexibility to hire who I wanted without having to comply with arbitrary rules. And I needed specialized skills that made it easier to weed out most applicants (multi-threaded code, anybody?). For positions that don't have specialized skill sets, how do you deal with many hundreds of resumes? The college requirement is mostly intended to reduce the size of the pool. Does it make the pool higher quality, on the average? Debatable. If simply following instructions is an important skill, then maybe, yeah. But a stronger pool is incidental. The big benefit is pool size reduction.
My favourite thing about resume writing is when you get to the interview and it's very apparent that the person in front of you has never seen your resume.
@Brandy Allen You might have problems with landing a job then. Some companies even require motivational letter but you can avoid it by avoiding those companies. Without CV however it would be hard to take part in ANY recruitment process.
I liked the application I filled out a few months ago that asked for me to upload my resume, then had me retype the information on the resume into a form, and *also* had the audacity to say "don't copy from your resume." I understand one's for the stupid algorithm that rejects 90% of applications, but it's just the icing on the cake. They still have fliers up at the business (bank) whinging about being shorthanded, btw. Gotta love it.
Well I still can't apply to a job, so it's really a question of what would happen in the future, even though I like the the idea of it feeling like a game show, to write a resume :/ :p
ah, you just gotta love employers: Design your resume, so that it stands out. It should be unique. Use colours and maybe even different form factors also employers: eh, let's run it through an automated system that doesn't know how to handle creativity
We use an ATS system, but I'll quickly scan over all the resumes that are removed to see if any look interesting. But you gotta understand from the employers perspective. I posted for a local job, that required being in person, and I was getting 100 resumes PER DAY, with 90% of them from out of country. Most of them with zero related experience. Without a tracking and management system, I wouldn't be able to even post my job online.
@@bodaciouschad I do take in person applications. But I still need to advertise my job posting. The last job I posted for was 100k+ salary. You cant just put a "help wanted" sign on your door for a job like that.
NGL different form factors are a nightmare. I am not in HR, but one time I was still tasked with being involved in the hiring process. Some people focus so much on making their resume look unique, that they wind up making it really really hard to read and gleam info from. Eventually I had to throw away resumes from which I couldn't immediately understand the main points of data because I didn't have the time to read hundreds of them in detail on top of my other tasks. The best ones were far and away the ones that were creative in ways that made the resume easier to read at first glance. Using colors to discriminate important info and different font sizes to give a hierarchy to the reading order and the like. The worst ones were the ones that had either hard to read colors, or odd overthought layouts that you had to figure out. Though as for good news, among the applicants I selected to interview, the one that got accepted was a guy who'd just finished his undergrad with no prior experience. And while not the most important thing, it sure helped that his resume was incredibly straightforward
I just got auto-rejected from a promotion to a job position made just for me by the company I work for. Had to kick it up the management chain to override the system’s determination. My manager thought it was pretty funny, but all it gave me was flashbacks to the nightmare that was looking for a job.
I had a similar experience recently, except they had me send my resume and application to the manager to edit before submitting so that I wouldn’t get kicked out 🤦🏻 what a disaster.
@@Tomonkey4 Because then they can’t pretend it wasn’t made just for them. Ya gotta let some poor suckers waste their time and money applying for the job first.
Job hunting is the single most dehumanizing, demoralizing experience that I've ever had. I have an in-demand, specialized degree with a double major from a prestigious college, and I've heard back from none of the places to which I've applied (at least 15; I've lost count). I've managed to get in contact with alumni in the industry, and they invariably 1) are extremely impressed with my academic history (majors, awards, fellowships), so I'm for sure qualified, and 2) say that the only hope is connecting with someone in the industry who happens to know of a job opening and can leverage their position to help you. The initial screening process is far too automated, and they know and acknowledge that. I understand that HR departments are probably very busy, but they're clearly overlooking qualified candidates and then complaining when no one wants to work. I'm not trying to brag or sound entitled, rather I'm trying to illustrate how truly ridiculous and untenable this situation is; I have literally *everything* going for me, and I'm *still* not having any success. Good luck to everyone in the process of employment scavenging.
Job hunting is the single most dehumanizing, demoralizing experience that I've ever had - i would say jumping through the various hoops to get welfare to survive is more dehumanizing etc
@@atomiccritter6492 fair enough. I did say "that *I've* ever had". I've never had to apply for welfare. I bet that is very difficult, but my original statement is not inaccurate.
@@lj8507 It's as bad as when you're applying for an entry level position at a retail store cause you just need a job having had 5+ years of experience in retail (among other industries) including management and they feel the need to treat you like you're a kid applying for their first job, and then tell you sweet nothings only to instead hire a kid applying for their first job because of coworkers or relations. It's all in who you know, rather than what you know. At least you have that coveted degree and aren't coming off of 10+ years of work experience only to find that you're as expendable as you were at the beginning. :/ Sorry for the rant, but long story short, I understand. And then they wonder why people are discontent with the state of things.
I actually thought she would have made a bot that wrote exactly what the ATS finds great. (Punishing "bad" behavior, which would be low grades, and rewarding good behavior.)
The other underlining problem with job searching is the lack of feedback from the resume. As a result, the job seeker does not know what went wrong or how to improve on it. People learn from a proper critique. But that is time-consuming on its own.
That's the point, and in that case you don't know that your resume isn't good enough for them, or they're too busy to let you know that you won't get a job in that place. We're all just human beings, and if I have a feedback like "We don't want u because your experience / lack of proper education / etc", that's hurt but I can understand that - they've found someone better than me in this whole process. But if you have to wait for any sign from their side (you worry because you need some stabilization, sallary to live, exp and so on), and they just don't care, it really sucks.
"thank you very much for your interest in our company. Unfortunately we decided to go with another candidate. We will keep your application and if a better suited opportunity open up we will contact you" Yup ... in the 2010 recession, I received this answer about 800 times over the course of 4 years while having actually no job at all and doing only job hunting all the time. At every each of them I answered asking what I can improve. The very very rare answer I received was to get more experience elsewhere first or to get more formation inline with what I was seeking ( I already have about 13 years of post-secondary schooling and 3 uni diploma in mec. engineering, project management and operation management and I was applying for project management positions in operation or engineering fields -_- ........... )
To be honest, they are going to spend five seconds with your resume. Your resume needs to have keywords related to the technologies/skills they are looking for and years of experience. For most, not all, of what people did in college does not matter. Your 4+ years in undergrad will be reduced to a checkbox for them. Your clubs, projects, awards, extracurriculars, and leadership positions do not matter. Unless you worked a job in college related to or damn near identical to the job you applying for, putting what you did in college on your resume is futile. Unfortunately, no employer will say, “Well, this person has transferable skills, so let’s give them a chance.” If they are looking for 2+2 on a resume, then your resume somewhere needs to say 2+2. I’ve seen some pretty bad resumes, but because these people were able to check off a couple of boxes, they were hired.
@@miranina1585 if you want feedback on how to improve your resume, ask recruiters what they look for when they are looking at resumes. You can ask for an informational interview to draw out that information, because they won’t give you a direct answer on what you need to improve on your resume.
@@NewBlueTrue that requires having a two-way line of communication. Most of the time, you don't even hear back anymore that they have decided not to use you, so you don't have the email address of the hiring manager/recruiter to ask for that. Most job applications are online, and they specifically tell you when they send you the "Thank you for your application" email that says they received your resume, "Do not reply to this email address" because it's an automated system.
I am in terrible french bread, please help me. Also, Melissa's friendship standards are impossibly high. She needs to do some market research, maybe some focus group testing. If only she had a friend to help with that.
The best thing that I ever did for myself was to take the time to write a comprehensive CV-style resume. I wrote out as many tasks as I could think of for each position, including anything that might not be directly related to the job title (e.g. I’m in biological research, but I still wrote out all admin tasks, database programming, website management, etc). For all of this, I included any metrics that I could think up, and sometimes included multiple wording to cover different perspectives. It was a ton of work, but since then, whenever I’ve applied to jobs, I made individually catered resumes by mostly rearranging for importance and deleting rather than writing from scratch.
And to remember that our grandparents just had to walk in a place and say "hey! I'm available and capable for a job!", and now they're thinking about how useless we're for not being able to get a job
Not even grandparents. I'm only in my forties, and I can remember when all it took to get a job was looking for Help Wanted listings and calling to set up an interview time. Yeah, you'd wait around a half hour for the Hiring Manager to call you in and spend just 5 minutes with you (if the interview went as long as 10 minutes, it was a good sign you might get called back), but at least I was handing that person my resume and they were LOOKING at it. Hell, just 10 years ago, submitting your resume online still came with a call from HR to let you know they got it and would be considering candidates between this date and that date, and if you moved on to the next round, you'd get a call back by such and such date. Unspoken but nonetheless true was the underlying idea that if you didn't hear back by that date, you didn't make the cut and go ahead and keep looking for a job. I keep saying that if I can just get some face time with a recruiter or at least get a call, I can sell myself and convince them I'm the right fit. It's the lack of actual contact, even by email, that makes it so much harder these days
@@atomiccritter6492 I'll tell you what I've seen. At a movie theater and. Kroger I've seen applicants walk in, ask for an interview and be asked to wait for a manager. At a factoey which had been bought out by a competitor and ran as a "contractors only" engineering sweat shop, an asian gentleman in his 40s showed up at the front door clutching his hat and asking to speak with the old manager who used to run the plant, begging for an interview, "just a shot", he said. Security escorted him off of the premises and the girl who held the (unlocked) door for him was reprimanded (not the security door, the visitor lounge door). Companies where you can work a career avoid in person interviews like the plague.
that's the ideal system, really. direct and open lines of communication. none of this resume runaround or digital systems madness. just people communicating with each other.
So if anyone wants more CV writing advice, I use a skills based CV (because careers advisor told me too) and I have one document that has every possible skill I could think of, and then use the STAR technique to explain how I've used that skill in the past. Then for job applications you just copy and paste 3 - 4 of the essential/desirable skills that they have onto your CV, and tailoring the CV takes about 30 seconds rather than a few minutes. I have a pretty decent job now so I reckon it works alright :P (also my work experience stays roughly the same but tbf until recently my work experience was just minimum wage hospitality/retail so not much to talk about anyway)
please could you link or upload the document (with your personal details omitted, of course) I'm having a really hard time writing a proper cv since I don't have any work experience.
if the ATS is an AI, and you have an AI (which is a learning neural net) create resumes that feed into the ATS AI, Then you've created an partial Adversarial Neural Network, and eventually your AI will have a 100% success rate at creating resumes, and you could then market it as a product, So then they'll make the ATS a neural network that learns from that, and then it is a TRUE adversarial neural network, and who gets jobs will be dependent not on skill, but dumb luck for if the resume-machine lucks out. Eventually it'll balance out at, what, 50/50, so if you throw your resume in 2-3 times, one of them will get through the ATS, and the corporate inboxes will be permanently flooded garbage, which is what they get for replacing the HR department with a damn soulless machine.
@@DragoNate no it doesn't, Just think about how insignificant any animal is next to a human as far as intelligence is concerned, and then consider just how significant the continuation of animals is to us. if an AI ever gets "as smart as a person", it will attempt to integrate into and understand the larger structure that is society. the smarter it gets after that just dictates how many people and interactions it can handle. BUT that will never happen, because it turns out, awareness is dependent on sensory input, not mere computation, in other words, AI can't identify it's own place in the world, without a body for it to identify as a self, and the related sensory of that body to identify it with.
Is this a sign from the universe? I've literally been stressing tf out over applying to jobs and not getting anything back or asked for interview times only to be ghosted :/ I had my resume analyzed by a professional and my ATS score came to be 29% and I also found out that 93% of U.S. companies scan resumes through ATS. All I want is just a part time writing gig to earn some extra money while in college. It shouldn't be this extremely hard to get a job. I can't believe companies have the audacity to whine about not getting enough quality employees but turn around and treat them like shit before they even walk in the door. Something's gotta change because this is not it.
Your university might have a "writing lab" where you can assist other students with their writing. Student employment can be a lot easier than getting an off campus job
Preach. I’m tired of hearing about a “labor shortage” when I’ve been waiting over a month to hear back from the place that “hired” me. The bills don’t pay themselves and I am starting to think this job I got is never actually gonna schedule me.
The most annoying thing I find is when a Job asks you to upload your Resume, then basically makes you full out the whole thing again. It significantly increases the amount of time to apply for the Job. There was one in particular that was so bad I just give up and applied to different Jobs instead.
@@Ck87JF same, when it gets annoying is when you can’t just copy paste. One place in particular, I uploaded my Resume and then. it auto filled wrong, ok fine most places do, I fixed that. It had a questionnaire about skills, ok fine I’ll fill that out. It asked for a short video, Ok… I’ll come back to that. It asked what hours I was available to work, Well the ones you asked for that’s why I’m apparently but ok I’ll full this out. Another questionnaire about skills. ok this is getting ridiculous. I stopped after about half. Then I Went and applied to a couple more Jobs in the time it took me to do that one. But hey I’ve got an interview with them tomorrow so I guess they didn’t need all that stuff after all.
@@BandidoDescalzo yeah, I totally get it. Job hunting can take literal hours per job if you do everything that's recommended - or demanded of a particularly needy application process like you described. Good luck on the interview!
My last job gave us a "new" job title. Unfortunately, it's non-translatable. Clients don't know what it means, future employers don't know what that means, peers don't know what it means. Knowing the AI filter out weird job titles makes me wonder if they were trying to screw us so we couldn't leave comfortably for better pay.
Yeah just write down the most commonly understood word for what you actually did. Had a similar thing with my previous job, but they were doing it to have cheap labor. Basically they hired people as 'IT service desk employees', implying what you'd be doing is sitting behind a phone and answering it. Unskilled entry position so they could pay minimum wage. But in reality once you worked there they'd expect way more. I did routine maintenance and back-ups, spent a lot of time in server rooms patching cables, did a lot of issue solving on my own. So on my resume I definitely just wrote 'system administrator' because in reality that's what I was doing.
Jan 2020: completed my 2nd STEM degree in computer science. With high honors. Jan - Nov: Submitted several dozen applications. Had zero interviews. Nov - Feb: signed up for a coding camp. Feb - June: after 40+ interviews and coding assessments, finally landed a job as an entry level programmer. Things people say "it's a very competitive field" also.... "we can't seem to fill these positions, there's a shortage of talent"
Let's be honest. Companies want to complain about "shortage of talent" but are very much unwilling to train employees. Like Sabrina's previous video echoed what we all knew: they want experienced people for entry-level positions
I’ve been applying to game design jobs for the last couple of weeks without any success so far. Turns out no one has looked at my portfolio which is linked in my resume (based on SquareSpace analytics). Now I find out there’s also an ATS scanner. Probably didn’t help that the resume was custom formatted to fit the look of the portfolio. Le pain is real.
I know that feeling. I did a University degree in Games design and all my lecturers said I should make a custom CV and really "show off my creative skills" to quote them. It turns out, there's not a single auto-fill AI that can read it 🤦♂️ now that I know about the ATS, I doubt any of companies I applied to have even seen my CV
Yeah same here but in Arch/PM. Ive spent days on my resume getting it to stand out but fortunately I'm at the beginning job hunting so only done a few applications that were promptly rejected. The auto fill was pathetically bad which makes me think ATS scans are the same. So there goes the fancy resume, back to word I go. Incredibly annoyed that visually specialised fields would use these systems.
I've tried that, but then when I run it through a checker, it flags my "employment gaps" from taking off jobs that don't fit the listing.Since employment gaps are a big no-no that will get your resume discarded before a person lays eyes on it, I keep my resume as complete as possible while trying to not go back more than 10 years. If the last job that was closest to the one I'm applying for is further back than that, I still include all my experience back to that point (though, if your job experience in a related field is more than 10 years old, you're likely not to be considered for the new position unless you have several years in that position).
God yes I never see anyone talking about it. I'm trying to find work as a translator and I keep getting fake wrong number scam texts in my language and it just feels like a huge slap in the face. Half of the listings are phishing scams now.
Don't forget the scam emails and text messages. Nothing like worrying whether you are clicking on a legit job offer or malware to get your heart rate up.
There's plenty of research showing that having an "ethnic" name can also get in the way of getting hired. Multiple research groups worldwide submitted the same resume under different names and the White sounding name got more callbacks. (This has worked out for me - I started reducing my ethnic last name to an initial and my interview rates skyrocketed)
I always thought this was BS, until I started trying to get employed in my industry about a year or so back. I'm an immigrant, so my name is as ethnic as you can get. The only big firm I had applied to that went through the effort to actually respond to my application has a Greek director, I got a few callbacks from firms ran by Greeks and/or Italians, and my first job (the one I'm currently at) has a Cypriot director. Our suppliers give me a hard time over my name sometimes, and in the four months I've been employed, have been asked numerous times why I haven't changed it to something easier. *And I'm European!* People are supposedly not even racist to us anymore...
Life Hack: Look for non paid internships. Research what they do there and then write on your resume you were there doing the things you researched about that unpaid internship. When the background check is done, give them a number to someone you already know, who will vouch for you. If they ask for a W2/Paystubs, then you can tell them it was unpaid, so you don’t have that to provide but can connect them with “HR” to verify you working there. Also, contract positions are easier to get, go through them.
@@alex15095 But companies will lie to people, force them to work unpaid overtime, make promises they don’t fulfill, cancel or reduce their benefits, not pay them enough to live on, lie about salaries, force people to move without giving them relocation benefits, and fire them without notice regardless of the workers’ circumstances. People shouldn’t feel “unethical” about doing what they have to do to survive. Just my two cents
Sabrina, how did you eventually get your parents to understand that applying to jobs now is not the same as when they were your age? How?? Please, I need to know, my mom last applied for a job in the 1980s and is full of advice that was probably amazing at the time but is sadly no longer correct.
It's tough for parents to think they don't have anything useful to contribute to the process now. It sounds like she is looking for a way to help and having trouble believing things could be different enough that her experience doesn't apply. Depending on what you would find helpful maybe forward articles or videos like this, have her help make the comparisons to the job posting, or think of jobs you might want to apply to, rather than provide advice. Also depends if she has time - maybe just asking for moral support without trying to help would be best.
I have the same problem. The last time my Mom applied for a job was in the 80s, my Dad had his lined up the day he graduated college (never even really applied and claimed that graduations have lines of employers standing there to snatch up people), my grandmother last tried to get a job in the 60s and my grandfather last got a job in the 50s. Get all 4 of them on my case, telling me how to get a job nowdays and it's so blasted stressful I just want to run away and hide because everything I know about the world these days is wrong and everything I do is wrong by everyone's accounts.
Wait until you start apartment hunting or buying a house, you'll get the same thing all over again. The last time my parents bought a house was like 25 years ago and no matter how many times I try to explain it to them, they seemingly refuse to believe how utterly f*cked the housing market is nowadays. Whenever I sent them apartments I've applied for or am going to view they tell me _"No! You really shouldn't apply for that one, it's terrible, it's not worth it. You should look for places like....."_ and then they list a number of requirements that would lead to a rent that's 3x my monthly income or something. And when I tell them that - that places like the kind they describe don't exist in the price range I can afford they just say: _"Well, keep looking. You'll find something eventually."_ Meanwhile, despite having a fulltime job, I'm stuck in a crappy little studio apartment barely bigger than a dorm room.
We had a resume writing class in college where we tested it against one of these AI. I was able to make one that passed that wrote of me washing dishes with gnomes and dancing with the spoons
I graduated with a CS degree a little over a year ago and it's been very difficult to get an interview even after over 250 applications (was working part time and didn't update my resume that much, just applied). Recently started the interview process for a few companies at a major tech hub after updating it with more keywords, using STAR for bullet points, and adding in the non-relevant work experience so it doesn't seem like I'm doing nothing all day.
@@leilanidru7506 Situation, Task, Action, and Result. Look up some examples. It's basically a way of writing descriptions to show what you did and what kind of impact you had. Since I didn't have any relevant work experience I just tried my best using it for my projects.
@@wonderfulwaffle3261 As someone in the industry I would definitely recommend that especially for new graduates. Also any relevant achievements made in your own time can make a huge difference too. We have snapped up several recent programming graduates on the strength of some contributions they had already managed to get accepted by well respected open source projects for example. Similarly make sure to include it if you have ever built projects that had public releases and successfully attracted and retained users this is another important achievement to include. Basically anything that can demonstrate applied skills in practical settings is going to be an advantage certainly puts you ahead of the pack compared to those with the qualification but no evidence of any relevant experience. This is especially true where you can show experience delivering success in actual market settings ie where your projects are being used by actual customers even if the only payment on their part was their time it still shows an ability to deliver products with market appeal.
One thing that I learned recently about ATS systems: they cannot read headers and footers, so if you have your contact information there, it gets discarded. They also use a default 1" / 2.54cm margin all around. So if you are using smaller margins, anything within the 1" margin space will not get read by the ATS. Also avoid using tables, ATS systems will mangle information in tables. I feel that I am going back to typewriter days with using just tabs and spaces.
oh my god this might be my issue. my technical writing class said we definitely should format everything with tables. I've done 84 applications over the last 2 months, not even to anything special literally just grocery stores, starbucks, etc
"I'm all for applying to jobs I'm not qualified for!" - Me during my entire job search so far EDIT: Also, legit the job posting for My Friend :) was so cute
Ditto. Although very weirdly, I was spreading my wild seed in mid-June but stopped applying because I gave up after around 6 months, and am staying at my previous job. But now (late September) I've suddenly begun hearing polite rejections and even had one phone interview for just a bunch of random companies I applied to as I got desperate.
200? I am into 6 months of being unemployed in Britain - I think my application rate is around 500 jobs. Had 1 interview by video call, 1 unplanned phone interview (the employer just rang me and started interviewing me - it was a hijack) and 1 scheduled face to face interview...
@@atomiccritter6492 OMG!!! 500 is insane. The job market is crazy and impossible. Out of curiosity, did you tailor any of your resumes? I did with some and others I didn’t.
Put all the keywords for the job you are applying for in the same color as the page (white) in the header so the ats brings the resume to the front line. Works 1000% of the time. This is how my brother gets a new job with better pay for a different position every 2-3 years just bc he gets bored of the current one.
@@Dimasadi455 yes. Like make the color of the keywords you think they will search, the same color as the paper which would be white. They use a program that looks for the keywords in resumes so they can narrow it down. Now if they just happen to highlight the words on your resume. They will notice that you did this. Bc they will appear with the highlighter. But they most likely won't care at this point if your resume is interesting enough to them by this point. (Bc they are going to look at it first and most likely not even realize while reading it that you didn't even use those words in the first place, but you should still attempt to use some of them when possible. ) Make sense?
@@peter-jbnah, as someone who once used that same trick to boost a 1200 word paper to 1500 words (anything very big would be noticeably shorter whole reading) and didn't get penalised, it sounds legit...
When the ATS apparently has troubles with unique formatting but your teachers all throughout school and higher education taught you to make your applicarions as unique and creative as possible. BBBBBrrrrrrrrEEEEEEEAAAAAdddddd
Well when you consider those with highly unmarketable degrees like general studies, gender studies, ethnic studies, philosophy, art, music, communications, etc., I’m sure that statistic suddenly makes more sense.
@@gobalbucs except all those are very valuable as well. for example, 1000 years ago philosophers were the most prestigious. art and music are priceless, and communications, well communication is key
@@pvic6959 And 100 years ago people thought that wounds get infected because of miasma. That hysterical condition if caused by raging female womb. Lets not talk about what was good 1000 years ago.
Having just finished an interview that took, no joke, 15 months of applying to positions for, I could have used this a while ago. Glad I have it now tho Edit: I'm not sure how I should feel with how many likes this has gotten. Edit 2: As a sense of irony, it took less than 4 hours to get a response back, and I did pass the interview, so there's that.
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa I mean, it’s not a lie. That’s literally what DnD is. But people look down on games so if you just call it “plays TTRPGs” it gets less attention unless the job is relevant to TTRPGs
@@DeathnoteBB I tried that in my resume writing class. I put in there that I was the guild mediator in EverQuest. I solved lots of issues and put an end to quite a few squabbles. Failed the assignment because "gaming isn't experience." Heck, even being the treasurer for the Family Readiness Group for my husband's Army unit wasn't "Experience" either. If you don't get paid for it, it's not experience is what I've been told by many sources over the years.
Subject: Misclassification of Job Titles, by AI or lazy programming. I have had two computer jobs with the title Technician in the job Title, and the résumé / job host web sites ( all of them ) send me emails for jobs as 'Automotive Technician' or 'Mechanic'. Related story, my wife worked as a Coffee Roaster, her coworker at the time was constantly getting telephone calls from Recruiters for a Java Programmer.
Should I even start at how "IT Architect" jobs vastly outnumber architect architects which makes scouring through job listings pain in the arse for no good reason. Like, seriously, is it that hard to make a "field of work" category, so you can search within "Computer science", and not get bombarded with Mechanics and I could be within "Civil engineering" and not get programmer's offers? smh.
ok so I'm going to need a part 2 to this where you send these resumes through real application processes please and thank you! (If you in any way feel bad about wasting companies/peoples time... just do all Amazon job postings. They are by far the most likely to interview/decline based solely on an algorithm so I feel like they deserve the same.
Literally taking a break from job applications for a bit and this pops up, settled in with some ice cream and looking forward to watching this before I return to the nightmare
My biggest issue with resumes is that they’re a significantly worse version of an Instagram profile. You put your best self of display while adding filters to make you look better than you actually do in real life. Except, resumes take it to another level. It’s all fake because everyone speaks in ways they wouldn’t normally speak, employers hype of job postings so that they’re fake to a certain extent, and applying for jobs just becomes a huge game of judging postings and applicants based off of an unrealistic version of themselves. But then you’re also told not to lie on resumes. But you’re encouraged to bend the truth. It’s ridiculous. I also hate how people do community service and join clubs JUST to put it on the resume. If I were an employer and I had two identical resumes with the same GPA and experience and everything, except one has community service, I would not immediately want to hire the community server. Because I know that there’s a high probability that they didn’t even want to do it, but they did it just to make themself look better. Which is arguably worse than not doing community service at all. It’s the exact opposite of serving the community. You are serving yourself disguised as serving other people. So with the community server applicant, they are either a super nice person, or a super selfish person. With the person who hasn’t done any community service, at least I know what I’m getting. The other person is a coin flip. It doesn’t help me get to know you at all or if you’d be good at your job. Like, cool, you fed the homeless. That’s nice of you and all, but how does that apply to graphic design and how well you can meet tight deadlines while still creating a quality product? The answer is: it doesn’t. I wish I were hiring for a position because I would sooner take the most honest people over the ones that doctor up everything to make them seem more qualified than they are. And if I ask someone how long it’ll take them to get a project done, I expect an honest answer. If I get some ridiculous, “2 hours” answer followed by 2 days of excuses as to why they couldn’t get it done in 2 hours, I’m not going to be too happy. I would rather you just tell me that it’ll take 2 days. I feel like resume building teaches people the wrong skills and tells people new to the workforce that creative lying is how you get jobs. “Don’t lie so much that you get caught, but lie enough to keep people interested.” It’s the dumbest mentality I have ever heard. I have no idea how job hunting turned into this or why it’s considered normal, but we wouldn’t tolerate those kind of games in any other part of our life. But when it comes to jobs we’re just like, “Yeah, that’s just how it is.” By WHY is it how it is? And why can’t it change? Why are we forced to play by these arbitrary and vague rules that are so specific that if you don’t blindly follow them, your resumé gets tossed? I refuse to be a part of that, so I’m glad I was able to get my job. I made the resume that I thought best described me, I applied, and they hired me. I didn’t have to jump through any of those ridiculous hoops and I marketed myself as honestly as I could. I told them my experiences and my skills based on exactly how I perceive them. I didn’t spend time applying filters to give them a false sense of my accomplishments.
My company is closing in February, I'm looking for a job for the first time in almost 20 years and its brutal. I had thought since I wasn't looking for an entry level job it would be easier with less competition, and since I was willing to relocate I would have such a broad market to look at it wouldn't be as restricting. I have turned in an average of 10 resumes a week for 4 months, and I finally have 1 interview next week. I'm pinning a lot of hope on this 1 interview, I don't have another 4 months to get another! Maybe I should look into the ats service of it falls through
Hilariously I have also heard advice such as, "Don't directly use words from the job posting you'll seem fake. Instead put them in white text in the margins of the document. It's the only way to get a human to even look at your resume" And then later on, "The Applicant tracking systems will weed out resumes detected with hidden text. Your resume will basically never be seen by a human if you do that"
Sounds like the best way into that company is to apply twice, once with the white text, and a second time with keywords integrated in the bullet points. One of them is bound to make it past the system!
Yeah, I really really wish we could get some kind of consistent standard for resume writing. Something really boring, identical, etc like school uniforms. Like in professional writing, you have APA standards. Follow these and you're golden.
@@Ck87JF Lmao I'm a professional writer and I'd never heard of APA. I work in entertainment so it's either standard screenplay format or some wild software-dependent company specific-formating.
@@Selestrielle the only time I used APA was in school when I wrote papers and they had a strict set of rules on how they wanted it done. It was annoying at the time, but it introduced me to the idea of rules creating consistency.
Okay, so the most manually processed resume per job is the preferred one, which is... bad news. Because I will def. not spend hours per application to produce something that will be thrown out just because my actual experience doesn't fit or something like that
Yup... They say to apply to jobs you really care about, but those take hours and still get you rejected. I've learned to expedite the process by applying to hundreds of jobs I don't care about, which really increases my rejections-per-hour ratio. My current job at least is an office job that bumped me up from food service with a 50% increase in pay, and I had applied to it pretty randomly. I thought it used a bunch of acronyms and jargon because it was a really specialized position... but it turns out that the HR department just doesn't know how to write job listings, so I was qualified and got the job.
@@Donteatacowman Personally, I judge that my preferred position hasn't more chances to choose me, worse, they have fewer chances to, because they're popular positions. So I don't find interest into investing more work on something that have less chance to happen. So my strategy is to send a default resume to a lot of position, brute-force/spam, until someone by the law of probability choose me over other candidates. That leads to less than 10 interviews who will lead to 1 or less contract
As someone who has hired employees in the past, the Automatic filter was a NIGHTMARE! (Possibly cos I'm in England where the common practice is to write CVs which have different formatting to Resumes and I am almost certain the program wouldnt have been customised) Quite often I would only get down like 2 or 3 application total, often the other end of the country or several hours away from the location, which for a 15 hour job isn't worth the travel or they wheren't available for the shifts advertised. Every single job I hired for I would have to go to head office to ask them to release all the CVs submitted and then I would get down like 20-30 to go through all in one go, depending on how long the job had been posted for, and majority of CVs sent where 100% better then the filtered ones. It was a bit of a nightmare that left me short staffed for far longer then I needed.
This is so timely. I agree with other commenters on the whining about "no one wants to work" while their bots are throwing away people's resumes. My friends and I are struggling to trick the machines into at least giving us a chance at getting work. Thanks for yet another great video!
Love my college professor for wanting to get us jobs himself, but we need resumes for that. So he spent a whole class period talking about how to get a job, especially in a new industry. Unfortunately, out of the whole night, the most surefire advice he had was to network. Get people to know what you can do by talking about it, then have them help you get a job because if they can put in a good word, you bypass all of this resume and application BS. Yeah it works but also what the hell. Is knowing the right person really the only reliable way to get a job in today’s world?
It always was. There was never a time in existence where knowing the right person was not more important than writing a good resume. This is not a modern thing. I run a pizza restaurant, we'll hire just about anyone if they'll be reliable, I even take felons. And when I need employees, my first stop is not my hiring system, it's my current employees to see if they know of and recommend anyone. I will take firsthand knowledge of the quality of a person far before I'll take a screen with bullet points. Your resume doesn't tell me if you can handle a heavy rush without freaking out, or if you'll show up for your assigned shifts reliably, or if you're detail-oriented enough to properly deep clean, or if you can keep your cool with a difficult customer. The people that we both know and interact with can. Simple as that.
20 custom resumes with 20 custom cover letters, each of which requires a day of research so you can look like you've done your research and have any shot at 1 of the many rounds of interviews. We are living in a golden age ... lol
It's quite interesting to see the differences between the applications in different countries. In Germany you are generally expected to hand in a time line of your career path and a separate letter in which you detail how you came about to apply to this specific job and outline relevant or interesting experiences regarding the job in question. And of course all the necessary certificates and so on. I already knew that this is quite different to the CV in the UK but now know that it also differs to the US version. :)
The CV/resume isn’t the entire thing (in the US). A lot places now ask you certain question prompts (3-5) and you’re expected to write a small response for each. My job now asked to highlight the most unique job task I’ve had and why I enjoyed it. There’s also a cover letter you’re expected to write a lot of the time, explaining how your experiences fit with this job and why you’re a good noodle. For super reference I’m in the west coast and have worked in labs/generally STEM type of services. Minimum wage jobs typically don’t ask for all that though. Just the resume and to restate everything on the online app boxes.
The UK and US versions (indeed most anglophone countries) are almost the same. As a Canadian living and working in Germany, I’m amazed that companies do not really contact your previous references and have a short conversation with them. They just require “Arbeitszeugnisse”, I.e. reference letters. Reference letters are practically useless for most job applications in Canada because everyone knows you can forge them, and employers require contact information from previous employers so they can confirm that what you’ve written on your resume is accurate first of all, and also to ask any other specific questions they might have for the position you’re applying for. Amazingly this has never happened to me in Germany. Also amazing is that many job postings in Germany actually include some kind of contact information if applicants have questions. This is unheard of Canada. As a result, I’ve had way better experiences and success looking for work in Germany vs Canada, even though German is not my native language and Canada is my home country.
@@Zariel_999 I agree and try to not give out my reference's info unless required. Most individual application websites have the area as a mandatory thing to fill out with 3 professional references, with more of them being optional, and require email AND phone numbers AND company AND how many years you've known them before you can submit the resume.
Having vetted a lot of resumes, and not used an AIP (?) - not sure how common those are outside very big companies, my main feedback would be: 1) read the job description and, as Sabrina says, make sure it's clear how your skills are relevant (yes, this is really important!) 2) write it so a human can read it (it doesn't need to sound like a journal article) 3) keep it concise with the best bits very clear and hard to miss 4) I don't care if you like knitting/rowing/LARP - you're applying for a job, not to be my friend :'( 5) don't put your age/gender or a photo as it makes it harder to make an objective decision and (in the UK anyway) is considered very unprofessional
@@maestrofeli4259 when you've read 25 resumes in a row, it gets pretty tiring trying to decipher sesquipedalian phrases and you long for a bit of good old plain English. People tend to assume that if they use complicated words they'll sound experienced, but if you read enough resumes, you very quickly see past that! A lot of people submit the same resume for multiple different jobs and it really shows. The candidates we hire are those that can demonstrate the skills specified in the job advert, so if those aren't obvious on your resume, it'll get skipped over.
The only thing I would say is don't assume it's not worth applying just because you don't have all, or even most of the skills required. In my personal experience people very frequently get hired who are missing skills if they interview well and have an interesting CV with potentially relevant experience in other professional areas (e.g. we might require magazine design skills but accept someone with strong website design skills as they demonstrate an understanding/experience of design)
Another bit of advice: assume the reader will stop reading after the first page, maybe even half-way down. The most-important thing needs to be near the top. You need a chronological list of experience, but don't start with that. Start with a few bullets that specifically address the desired skills. And like Chris said, be concise.
I’ve recently been in a position to review resumes from applicants. We didn’t use any filter software so I can’t speak to that. But I’ll say this: How you format your resume doesn’t ~really~ matter. I want to know you have relevant experience and/or education. Everyone who gives you resume advice has their own rules and suggestions. It’s mostly BS. Heres what I think really matters -keep it simple. Like, one font that you make Bold for headers simple. Crazy formatting is confusing. -list experience in descending chronological order. -only list relevant experience. I don’t care that you worked at a Cinnabon in the mall in school if we’re hiring a graphic designer (if you’re applying to that same company in a corporate role and left that job on good terms, maybe) -volunteering, school clubs, donating time etc are all okay to list if they’re relevant. -List education last. Some jobs just want to know you have a degree. Don’t list it first. It looks like you’re fresh out of school. If you are a current student, list that. But if you have ANY college at all, don’t list High school. It’s assumed. And don’t put your GPA. It’s tacky. -You get one page! If you did the same job for multiple companies, you don’t need to describe each one. -Save as a PDF!!!!! This is crucial. Different word processors and computers can see things differently, but everyone can see a PDF with no change. -bring your resume to the interview, but assume they’ll already have it on their computer.
Nobody can explain what "relevant experience" means in the context of a resume, without defaulting to just telling me to "lie because it doesn't matter anyway."
I hate writing resumes and interviewing bc it feels like I'm doing a Sane and Employable Drag Show 😅 feels like I should be onstage in a dingy club holding a mic like a skull in a Shakespeare play in my "Office Wear Drag Ensemble" cracking jokes about how much I love overtime and crunch and live to spend 7 hours a day doing data entry 👁👄👁 like here I am ladies, I'm giving you "Capable Of Meeting Expectations", I'm serving you "Professional Workplace Attire", and I'm doused in vanilla and HR-Compliant bodyspray!
They’re geared towards white middle class male US citizen no disabilities… sadly like literally everything else even tho most of us are outside this bubble in one or more ways
Experience from a non immigrant to Canada as a German: I applied for many jobs in the GTA area and got the silence treatment. I sent CVs in and got not even a response back that the resume was received. I got a rejection only once. I think a ATS pretty much looks for prior job experience and when the company names look not that Canadian, the ATS can sort you out. Some Canadian companies want 2 or more years of Canadian work experience as much welcoming the Canadian stereotype is. Your experience made abroad did not mean much. A lot of bias can stem from these ATS, which might not be ethnically nice. I can imagine that it sorts out "strange names", it can sort out people who have work or educational experience not in the country.
I failed the resume writing part of one of my classes that was supposed to prepare us for job hunting. Why did I fail it? Because they didn't want anything over 5 years old AND wanted every second accounted for. I had nothing to put in entire sections. I asked if I was supposed to fictionalize the project which would completely render it null, void and totally not helpful, and they were offended I would even ask such a thing. I really don't understand why no one can agree on formats to be used or information to include. Why can't the companies just make a form to be filled out with the information they want for the computer to go through? Oh, wait...I know why. Because it would make sense and things would work on both ends.
Yeah, the whole thing is a big pile of catch 22's. "Don't write down irrelevant jobs/experience." So you don't write down the irrelevant job you did for a few years. "Why do you have nothing on your resume between 2015 and 2018?! Are you a lazy bum who sits at home doing nothing?" Actually writing that down makes me realize how incredibly hostile these things are towards mental health. Like, as if laziness is the only reason you'd have no job experience entered in a certain year. Yeah no, let me fix that: "2017 - Stuck at home suffering crippling depression." Better?
Because that automatic rejection letter doesnt show up until 3 months later, and if she actually got an interview, it would put her in an awkward spot to have to say "I actually dont want this job I was doin it for the views"
Writing this before watching, but my take on why it's so difficult to write resumes is because you're effectively writing a custom advertisement for an audience that you have no information on.
The biggest issue I've had is HR departments not being knowledgeable about the skills they are hiring for. I had a resume rejected for not having experience that was all over my resume, because I used a more specific term than the one they knew to look for.
People who work in HR are some of the most low skill people. I really don't understand what their purpose is besides covering up the companies flaws to avoid lawsuits and making bad hiring decisions
99% of the time I apply for a job I get rejected thanks to being disabled. Sometimes it’s even as far as after I fill out the new hire paperwork and when they find out about my disabilities they never call me back / don’t ask me to come in anymore ): the only places Ive ever been accepted (didn’t know the owners personally) were two places that are massive corporations
I understand the frustration. I've been procrastinating my resume and job search for 7 years now. My procrastination has been so extreme that I even started my own business.
That's exactly the route i'm going down. Why go through the hassle of looking for a job when i can just create my own job. Then i don't have to work for some insufferable sh*t-for-brain for peanuts on the dollar. And then there's no HR to worry about, no getting fired etc etc.
"you can't just go into places anymore and show them your resume" Arguably, you can! It's how I got my current job at a printing store, my boss saw me come in and ask if their hiring, and said, that that was the reason I stood out, and got hired, and got me many callbacks in terms of entry-level jobs. Both electronic resume application submission and in-person definitely help in terms of catching more chances and I'd argue to do both if you can!
me tooo I set up a linkedin after 2+ years of procrastinating, ran my cv through an ATS scanner for the first time and it didn't pick up any of my past experiences (rip), this video is actually some really solid advice for modern jobhunting!!
I am 64 semi-retired with a couple of disabilities that limit what I can do. Still I have worn many hats over 40 years. I am now that guy you can come to and say, "I need this project by this deadline." My reply is give it here and if I have questions, I'll come looking for you." Then I go do the job. I have been a pastor, truck driver, writer, photographer, school bus driver and a few other things thrown in. How do I make that fit into a bunch of boxes? Oh, I forgot, I'm also a licensed drone pilot and have taken Google's IT course on Coursera. This is what is frustrating for me, I need to sit down and talk face to face with someone who can listen
This info about ATS scanning services is super useful. I have a great resume that’s organized really well for human viewers, but I’m pretty sure the format confuses some ATS systems. Gonna definitely check some of the services out to see what changes I need to make.
some quirks of ATS that I learned recently: they do not read headers and footers so any info there (such as contact information in my case) gets discarded. As well, they use a default 1" / 2.54cm margin all around; if you use a smaller margin, any text into the default margin does not get read. Lastly, don't use tables - ATS will mangle the information in tables. I feel like I am back to using a typewriter: just tabs and spaces. Wordprocessing software not required.
Oh man, please DO an episode about literacy. Talk about what it is, how we teach it, how navigating the world becomes difficult without it. ALSO the Ontario Secondary School Literacy test is both full of *French Bread* for participants and teachers BUT it actually gives us some great data. I want to hear some amazing rants about the OSSLT (and as an educator, I'm sincerely sorry for it's existence.)
I have asd (autism spectrum disorder) and I have major difficulty In understanding The concept behind sending and being analysed through a CV... But I know nobody on planet earth Who cares enough tô sit with me and show me where I am being in The wrong. Do you know someone Who can help me?
I don't know whereabouts you are in the job search, like how confident you are for instance. But to start you off, I think meta-job searching is important. You can find out a lot just by doing research and asking google questions. To answer your question, if you study at university or school, there may be careers counselors that can go through your resume. It's also worth considering other options such as recruiting agencies, any ASD services (maybe there are some offered by your government, I'm not sure) and even networking. Talking to anyone (friends, family, people online) can be valuable. I wanna see what suggestions other people have too.
@@harleykf1 As someone with ASD gotta love how all of our help options requires us to go find and network with people. Gotta network to get help on how to network with your disorder that impairs networking.
@@aevum6667 that's a very good point, I'm talking purely from my experience. But also remember, by watching the video, you're researching, at least a little bit. Even by talking to me, you're gaining a bit of experience with networking. Job searching is far from a fair game, but you can still improve your odds by being willing to learn how.
Having worked as a resume reviewer/writer and career coach for a good few months now, I can also tell you that the biggest problem people tend to run into in their resumes is that they're trying to just put down everything they did in their work. Tackle the writing by reading the job description's bullets and matching your experience to that then writing. Same principle as: it's difficult to list off all the words you know, but it's a lot easier to list off the synonyms you know for a specific term.
I have a LaTeX resume template with most of the stuff constant and 4-5 variables. I just change those each time I apply so they get accepted , but less work for me
I tried LaTeX, but had difficulty figuring it out. So mine is in HTML+CSS because that's what I know, and I don't have to fight auto-formatting or rendering inconsistencies.
I feel sorry for you northamericans here is more simple. We apply with a simple resume that we handed on paper in person or through the internet and you get a call or you don't. Sometimes you get called to an interview if it is more of a bigger job if I am expressing myself well. Your system seems to be WAY more complicated.
It’s really hard talking to my parents about the current job market. My dad has had (2) jobs in his entire life, and my mom stopped working after having 3 of her 5 kids…. Which was 30 years ago. They have NO idea what this world is like. They’re input and advice is so jarring, it actually makes me depressed. It seems they lived such easy work lives. “I never had more than two interviews to get a job!” Unreal.
Having recently gone through being hired, I think I had a decent strategy: I applied for like 15 jobs, but I reeeeaaally wanted to work for 2 of the companies. So I made a Generically good enough resume (TM) for the rest of them, and spent all my time thinking about the jobs I really wanted. this meant that instead of writting 15 of them, I wrote 3, and I was hired by one of the jobs I really wanted and had a chance in one of the other ones (But that one I had some extra outside help, so may not reflect your life experience). Could help someone, idk
Since university I've been struggling to get a job in the area that I studied and after countless CV rewrites and wasted years working in retail I learn that I've been missing opportunities because I didn't know that my CV that a human would read and find impressive would be read by a robot and rejected. HR are very quiet about this dirty little secret and still giving us CV advice from the 1950s
Well, I'm definitely putting, "I wrote a novel at age 12 and a play at age 10" but more elegantly on my résumé, because that feels like a pretty good thing to have been able to do.
@@DeathnoteBB The plays only 5 minutes and was just for fun, since I had the idea, and the novel is still being written, but by the time I'm having to write résumés it'll have been finished.
Oh, nostalgia! I wrote a novel-length text at age 13-14. (Like many first attempts at art... it does not deserve the title "novel". Still, I learned a lot.) Then I became a computer programmer. Life changes. Best wishes for your future writing endeavors.
I created a databank of everything I’ve accomplished, and everywhere I’ve worked, and been educated. When I write a resume, I pull the relevant data I need for the specific job. The more information I put in my database, the easier the resume. But when it comes to cover letters, forget it! Lol. The best bet there is is find a template you like and hope for the best.
The best advice I’ve heard is “be recruited” It’s hard. It’s impossible, but many job listings exist only as a formality. The company will probably promote from within or a friend or family member will be hired.
See in Germany, many employers don't actually want a personal statement or objective with their CV, simply an overlook of your previous education and employment as well as key skills. Therefore CV writing isn't really a thing. You can generally use the exact same "Tabellarischen Lebenslauf" for each application. Employers will ask for a "Motivationsschreiben" which is a statement on your reasons for pursuing a particular job. That's like the only part of the application that needs to be customized, I didn't know that in other countries it's the CV. hahaha
I remember writing my resume purposely generalized. As in “I like to [do hobby]” or “working at [company] would be…” so I could always fill in the brackets with the relevant information regarding the job I was applying for. Made it a lot easier to just tweak it than writing an entirely new resume. ^^
"The last time I applied for jobs I think I was trying to be a Business Analyst" That's so much 'french bread'. I graduated as a BA and I'm trying to find a job. But no one really wants a "young" BA to lead when they could just get an experienced old guy.
If you look up some ATS sites, you can pull job descriptions from job ads that closely align with your resume. Then, get with your boomer buddy and show them the process. Depending on how well your resume aligns with the ATS, you both might be surprised at how low of a score you get in the first round - I was. Reworking the resume to fit the job description will immensely boost your score.
I think resumes also get rejected because people generally do not write very well when we are nervous. What is more nervous making than a job interview? Not very much, but that is EXACTLY what a resumé is supposed to end with. Hence, resumé rejection.
I have a tendency to only remember things I learned in class while I'm in the classroom. When I leave the classroom all that information leaves my brain only for it to return the moment I enter the classroom. I had always called this situational memory, so learning that it actually has a proper name and that it's not only me with this issue is a huge sign of relief.
Dunno if this plays out in the private sector, but in the public sector (US Gov't. work), there's actually a very specialized process to writing a resume, and it's not exactly communicated. So let me explain a little bit. In the job posting, they'll put the requirements and qualifications as an ordered, and/or numbered list. That's actually a cue for the applicant, these are your K.S.A's. You're supposed to turn those into questions, and then answer them using the S.T.A.R. narrative format. Situation, Task, Action, Response. So you play story time, and it could be an entirely fictional story, they don't actually give a shit, as long as it has a resolution that is believable enough to have happened. You write these out for each bullet in the requirements as a part of the notes section of your resume. Now, with my process (I'm actually currently applying for a promotion so this is all fresh to me right now), you're limited to the number of characters you can have for your KSAs, so they need to be detailed, lengthy, but also short. It's fucking infuriating when trying to explain context. Your whole thing should be limited to 5,000 characters, but the job can have 24 KSAs. So you get nearly a sentence a piece. As part of the interview process, you're more or less doing the same thing. All that said, yeah you kinda have to tailor your resume slightly to each application. For my recent one, I had to do major revisions, but it's all good, since it's only one application. I am curious how this works out in private sector, whether it would get auto filtered out or not. But I think if it doesn't get filtered out, it might look really good to an employer that you actually read all parts of their posting. At least, that's what the feds are looking for.
I would not qualify for that """job""". You see, ... the job posting doesn't say an important detail... location. I'm in China which is thousands of kilometers from wherever you are which instantly makes me 2147483647 times less suitable for the job.
Ok, so I did love this video. Not specifically cause you created an AI, though that was cool too. I think I most appreciated your approach with the 4 resume and tbh that Sabrin B wasn't hired. Just tickled me. Love your videos
if you liked my french bread, consider sharing this video with a friend and commenting below to appease The Algorithm.
Here's a writing prompt: Would you qualify to be Melissa's friend? I sure as heck didn't.
- Sabrina
Here’s a resume tip to appease The Algorithm. Instead of saying “I changed a lightbulb” say “I single-handedly managed the successful upgrade and deployment of new environmental illumination system with zero cost overruns and zero safety incidents.”
Also, GPA for those who read the description.
Mmmm bread :)
Sadly i feely experience as a sem8 professional party pooper and left over righteous anger disqualify from that position
I probably wouldn't qualify as Melissa's friend, but I appreciate you sharing your french bread! Inflated GPA ftw!
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The frustrating thing about applying for a job is that they say "you dont need anything here that you learned in college!"
Well, i didnt go to college!
"You cant work here then."
College proves you have the ability to learn.
If you can survive at colleges, you are ready
- they probably
I've hired non-grads that have worked out wonderfully. And I've hired college grads that did not work out well. I've had the good fortune to work for a small company that gave me the flexibility to hire who I wanted without having to comply with arbitrary rules. And I needed specialized skills that made it easier to weed out most applicants (multi-threaded code, anybody?).
For positions that don't have specialized skill sets, how do you deal with many hundreds of resumes? The college requirement is mostly intended to reduce the size of the pool. Does it make the pool higher quality, on the average? Debatable. If simply following instructions is an important skill, then maybe, yeah. But a stronger pool is incidental. The big benefit is pool size reduction.
At college "the most important thing you get out of college is an internship"
@@eyeCubish No they don't, for the same reason that highschool doesn't prove that you can learn.
My favourite thing about resume writing is when you get to the interview and it's very apparent that the person in front of you has never seen your resume.
@Brandy Allen You might have problems with landing a job then. Some companies even require motivational letter but you can avoid it by avoiding those companies. Without CV however it would be hard to take part in ANY recruitment process.
I liked the application I filled out a few months ago that asked for me to upload my resume, then had me retype the information on the resume into a form, and *also* had the audacity to say "don't copy from your resume." I understand one's for the stupid algorithm that rejects 90% of applications, but it's just the icing on the cake.
They still have fliers up at the business (bank) whinging about being shorthanded, btw. Gotta love it.
That happened with my last gig
@@ItsMrBozToYou The corporate office aren't the ones hurting but they still make the rules for the shorthanded branches that get no say in the matter.
Chances are they can't get the resume.
They are just told to interview this person.
I actually enjoy writing resumes....its like a game show and the prize is not dying of poverty
I know what you mean. So far I didn't win once.
Well I still can't apply to a job, so it's really a question of what would happen in the future, even though I like the the idea of it feeling like a game show, to write a resume :/ :p
Heavy risk...BUT THE PRIZE
Sometimes you win getting the job but the pay STILL doesn't keep you out of poverty
Resumes are BS anyways, I got into my career like everyone else - desperation and a boss that doesn’t check references
ah, you just gotta love employers:
Design your resume, so that it stands out. It should be unique. Use colours and maybe even different form factors
also employers:
eh, let's run it through an automated system that doesn't know how to handle creativity
Some of them hate my two column layout.
We use an ATS system, but I'll quickly scan over all the resumes that are removed to see if any look interesting. But you gotta understand from the employers perspective. I posted for a local job, that required being in person, and I was getting 100 resumes PER DAY, with 90% of them from out of country. Most of them with zero related experience.
Without a tracking and management system, I wouldn't be able to even post my job online.
@@deidyomega Yes. *ExAcTlY.* If you need in-person workers, than take *in person applications.*
@@bodaciouschad I do take in person applications. But I still need to advertise my job posting. The last job I posted for was 100k+ salary. You cant just put a "help wanted" sign on your door for a job like that.
NGL different form factors are a nightmare. I am not in HR, but one time I was still tasked with being involved in the hiring process. Some people focus so much on making their resume look unique, that they wind up making it really really hard to read and gleam info from. Eventually I had to throw away resumes from which I couldn't immediately understand the main points of data because I didn't have the time to read hundreds of them in detail on top of my other tasks.
The best ones were far and away the ones that were creative in ways that made the resume easier to read at first glance. Using colors to discriminate important info and different font sizes to give a hierarchy to the reading order and the like. The worst ones were the ones that had either hard to read colors, or odd overthought layouts that you had to figure out.
Though as for good news, among the applicants I selected to interview, the one that got accepted was a guy who'd just finished his undergrad with no prior experience. And while not the most important thing, it sure helped that his resume was incredibly straightforward
I just got auto-rejected from a promotion to a job position made just for me by the company I work for. Had to kick it up the management chain to override the system’s determination. My manager thought it was pretty funny, but all it gave me was flashbacks to the nightmare that was looking for a job.
I had a similar experience recently, except they had me send my resume and application to the manager to edit before submitting so that I wouldn’t get kicked out 🤦🏻 what a disaster.
Ya see, they were looking for a better parallel universe version of you.
Why didn't they just promote you?? Corporate beurocracy is wild.
@@Tomonkey4 they probably had other "candidates" as well.
@@Tomonkey4 Because then they can’t pretend it wasn’t made just for them. Ya gotta let some poor suckers waste their time and money applying for the job first.
Job hunting is the single most dehumanizing, demoralizing experience that I've ever had. I have an in-demand, specialized degree with a double major from a prestigious college, and I've heard back from none of the places to which I've applied (at least 15; I've lost count). I've managed to get in contact with alumni in the industry, and they invariably 1) are extremely impressed with my academic history (majors, awards, fellowships), so I'm for sure qualified, and 2) say that the only hope is connecting with someone in the industry who happens to know of a job opening and can leverage their position to help you. The initial screening process is far too automated, and they know and acknowledge that. I understand that HR departments are probably very busy, but they're clearly overlooking qualified candidates and then complaining when no one wants to work. I'm not trying to brag or sound entitled, rather I'm trying to illustrate how truly ridiculous and untenable this situation is; I have literally *everything* going for me, and I'm *still* not having any success. Good luck to everyone in the process of employment scavenging.
Job hunting is the single most dehumanizing, demoralizing experience that I've ever had - i would say jumping through the various hoops to get welfare to survive is more dehumanizing etc
@@atomiccritter6492 fair enough. I did say "that *I've* ever had". I've never had to apply for welfare. I bet that is very difficult, but my original statement is not inaccurate.
@@lj8507 both are bad, I agree
@@lj8507 It's as bad as when you're applying for an entry level position at a retail store cause you just need a job having had 5+ years of experience in retail (among other industries) including management and they feel the need to treat you like you're a kid applying for their first job, and then tell you sweet nothings only to instead hire a kid applying for their first job because of coworkers or relations. It's all in who you know, rather than what you know.
At least you have that coveted degree and aren't coming off of 10+ years of work experience only to find that you're as expendable as you were at the beginning. :/ Sorry for the rant, but long story short, I understand. And then they wonder why people are discontent with the state of things.
I wld kill myself
I never knew that the bots that are rejecting me were so specialized. Now I gotta use the ATS to destroy the ATS.
you dare use my own spells against me potter!
You may have outsmarted me but I outsmarted your outsmarting.
@@oooofoooof4251 😂👌
@@OceanAce :PP
I actually thought she would have made a bot that wrote exactly what the ATS finds great. (Punishing "bad" behavior, which would be low grades, and rewarding good behavior.)
The other underlining problem with job searching is the lack of feedback from the resume. As a result, the job seeker does not know what went wrong or how to improve on it. People learn from a proper critique. But that is time-consuming on its own.
That's the point, and in that case you don't know that your resume isn't good enough for them, or they're too busy to let you know that you won't get a job in that place. We're all just human beings, and if I have a feedback like "We don't want u because your experience / lack of proper education / etc", that's hurt but I can understand that - they've found someone better than me in this whole process. But if you have to wait for any sign from their side (you worry because you need some stabilization, sallary to live, exp and so on), and they just don't care, it really sucks.
"thank you very much for your interest in our company. Unfortunately we decided to go with another candidate. We will keep your application and if a better suited opportunity open up we will contact you"
Yup ... in the 2010 recession, I received this answer about 800 times over the course of 4 years while having actually no job at all and doing only job hunting all the time. At every each of them I answered asking what I can improve. The very very rare answer I received was to get more experience elsewhere first or to get more formation inline with what I was seeking ( I already have about 13 years of post-secondary schooling and 3 uni diploma in mec. engineering, project management and operation management and I was applying for project management positions in operation or engineering fields -_- ........... )
To be honest, they are going to spend five seconds with your resume. Your resume needs to have keywords related to the technologies/skills they are looking for and years of experience.
For most, not all, of what people did in college does not matter. Your 4+ years in undergrad will be reduced to a checkbox for them. Your clubs, projects, awards, extracurriculars, and leadership positions do not matter. Unless you worked a job in college related to or damn near identical to the job you applying for, putting what you did in college on your resume is futile.
Unfortunately, no employer will say, “Well, this person has transferable skills, so let’s give them a chance.” If they are looking for 2+2 on a resume, then your resume somewhere needs to say 2+2.
I’ve seen some pretty bad resumes, but because these people were able to check off a couple of boxes, they were hired.
@@miranina1585 if you want feedback on how to improve your resume, ask recruiters what they look for when they are looking at resumes. You can ask for an informational interview to draw out that information, because they won’t give you a direct answer on what you need to improve on your resume.
@@NewBlueTrue that requires having a two-way line of communication. Most of the time, you don't even hear back anymore that they have decided not to use you, so you don't have the email address of the hiring manager/recruiter to ask for that. Most job applications are online, and they specifically tell you when they send you the "Thank you for your application" email that says they received your resume, "Do not reply to this email address" because it's an automated system.
I am in terrible french bread, please help me.
Also, Melissa's friendship standards are impossibly high. She needs to do some market research, maybe some focus group testing. If only she had a friend to help with that.
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The best thing that I ever did for myself was to take the time to write a comprehensive CV-style resume. I wrote out as many tasks as I could think of for each position, including anything that might not be directly related to the job title (e.g. I’m in biological research, but I still wrote out all admin tasks, database programming, website management, etc). For all of this, I included any metrics that I could think up, and sometimes included multiple wording to cover different perspectives. It was a ton of work, but since then, whenever I’ve applied to jobs, I made individually catered resumes by mostly rearranging for importance and deleting rather than writing from scratch.
And to remember that our grandparents just had to walk in a place and say "hey! I'm available and capable for a job!", and now they're thinking about how useless we're for not being able to get a job
Not even grandparents. I'm only in my forties, and I can remember when all it took to get a job was looking for Help Wanted listings and calling to set up an interview time. Yeah, you'd wait around a half hour for the Hiring Manager to call you in and spend just 5 minutes with you (if the interview went as long as 10 minutes, it was a good sign you might get called back), but at least I was handing that person my resume and they were LOOKING at it. Hell, just 10 years ago, submitting your resume online still came with a call from HR to let you know they got it and would be considering candidates between this date and that date, and if you moved on to the next round, you'd get a call back by such and such date. Unspoken but nonetheless true was the underlying idea that if you didn't hear back by that date, you didn't make the cut and go ahead and keep looking for a job.
I keep saying that if I can just get some face time with a recruiter or at least get a call, I can sell myself and convince them I'm the right fit. It's the lack of actual contact, even by email, that makes it so much harder these days
There are social reasons for it, but I would be cancelled if I speak about it.
I suspect some basic lowest level jobs you maybe able to just walk into the place and ask for a job even nowadays
@@atomiccritter6492 I'll tell you what I've seen. At a movie theater and. Kroger I've seen applicants walk in, ask for an interview and be asked to wait for a manager. At a factoey which had been bought out by a competitor and ran as a "contractors only" engineering sweat shop, an asian gentleman in his 40s showed up at the front door clutching his hat and asking to speak with the old manager who used to run the plant, begging for an interview, "just a shot", he said. Security escorted him off of the premises and the girl who held the (unlocked) door for him was reprimanded (not the security door, the visitor lounge door). Companies where you can work a career avoid in person interviews like the plague.
that's the ideal system, really.
direct and open lines of communication. none of this resume runaround or digital systems madness. just people communicating with each other.
So if anyone wants more CV writing advice, I use a skills based CV (because careers advisor told me too) and I have one document that has every possible skill I could think of, and then use the STAR technique to explain how I've used that skill in the past. Then for job applications you just copy and paste 3 - 4 of the essential/desirable skills that they have onto your CV, and tailoring the CV takes about 30 seconds rather than a few minutes. I have a pretty decent job now so I reckon it works alright :P
(also my work experience stays roughly the same but tbf until recently my work experience was just minimum wage hospitality/retail so not much to talk about anyway)
Hey! Could you help/teach me to make the same?
wow thats very helpful thank you
please could you link or upload the document (with your personal details omitted, of course) I'm having a really hard time writing a proper cv since I don't have any work experience.
This is what I do as well!
whats the STAR technique
if the ATS is an AI, and you have an AI (which is a learning neural net) create resumes that feed into the ATS AI, Then you've created an partial Adversarial Neural Network, and eventually your AI will have a 100% success rate at creating resumes, and you could then market it as a product, So then they'll make the ATS a neural network that learns from that, and then it is a TRUE adversarial neural network, and who gets jobs will be dependent not on skill, but dumb luck for if the resume-machine lucks out. Eventually it'll balance out at, what, 50/50, so if you throw your resume in 2-3 times, one of them will get through the ATS, and the corporate inboxes will be permanently flooded garbage, which is what they get for replacing the HR department with a damn soulless machine.
Don't worry, that whole process will only take about 8 human lifetimes, or probably a while after AI removes us :)
This is actually perfect
@@DragoNate Not really. adversarial neural nets develop terrifyingly fast
@@therealquade then that just means our existence to them will also become pointless terrifyingly fast (:
@@DragoNate no it doesn't, Just think about how insignificant any animal is next to a human as far as intelligence is concerned, and then consider just how significant the continuation of animals is to us. if an AI ever gets "as smart as a person", it will attempt to integrate into and understand the larger structure that is society. the smarter it gets after that just dictates how many people and interactions it can handle. BUT that will never happen, because it turns out, awareness is dependent on sensory input, not mere computation, in other words, AI can't identify it's own place in the world, without a body for it to identify as a self, and the related sensory of that body to identify it with.
Is this a sign from the universe? I've literally been stressing tf out over applying to jobs and not getting anything back or asked for interview times only to be ghosted :/ I had my resume analyzed by a professional and my ATS score came to be 29% and I also found out that 93% of U.S. companies scan resumes through ATS. All I want is just a part time writing gig to earn some extra money while in college. It shouldn't be this extremely hard to get a job. I can't believe companies have the audacity to whine about not getting enough quality employees but turn around and treat them like shit before they even walk in the door. Something's gotta change because this is not it.
if u dont mind me asking, what ats website did u use?
Your university might have a "writing lab" where you can assist other students with their writing. Student employment can be a lot easier than getting an off campus job
I swear at some point companies’ ridiculous and contradictory standards are gonna cannibalize them
Preach. I’m tired of hearing about a “labor shortage” when I’ve been waiting over a month to hear back from the place that “hired” me. The bills don’t pay themselves and I am starting to think this job I got is never actually gonna schedule me.
@@DeathnoteBB can’t wait to see it
The most annoying thing I find is when a Job asks you to upload your Resume, then basically makes you full out the whole thing again. It significantly increases the amount of time to apply for the Job. There was one in particular that was so bad I just give up and applied to different Jobs instead.
While definitely annoying, I usually have resume and application site side-by-side so I can copy-paste my way to freedom.
@@Ck87JF same, when it gets annoying is when you can’t just copy paste.
One place in particular, I uploaded my Resume and then.
it auto filled wrong, ok fine most places do, I fixed that.
It had a questionnaire about skills, ok fine I’ll fill that out.
It asked for a short video, Ok… I’ll come back to that.
It asked what hours I was available to work, Well the ones you asked for that’s why I’m apparently but ok I’ll full this out.
Another questionnaire about skills.
ok this is getting ridiculous.
I stopped after about half. Then I Went and applied to a couple more Jobs in the time it took me to do that one. But hey I’ve got an interview with them tomorrow so I guess they didn’t need all that stuff after all.
@@BandidoDescalzo yeah, I totally get it. Job hunting can take literal hours per job if you do everything that's recommended - or demanded of a particularly needy application process like you described.
Good luck on the interview!
Workday? It sucks at reading PDF resumes particularly. I found that with Word document, it's slightly better.
The French bread gag and its callbacks were quality humour my friend
Agreed
???????
My last job gave us a "new" job title. Unfortunately, it's non-translatable. Clients don't know what it means, future employers don't know what that means, peers don't know what it means. Knowing the AI filter out weird job titles makes me wonder if they were trying to screw us so we couldn't leave comfortably for better pay.
Gonna go with "probably."
Change it to a more commonly known/used one that most resembles what you do?
@@adrianazashen They also increased our job description to basically doing two jobs, but yes, that's a good idea.
Yeah just write down the most commonly understood word for what you actually did. Had a similar thing with my previous job, but they were doing it to have cheap labor. Basically they hired people as 'IT service desk employees', implying what you'd be doing is sitting behind a phone and answering it. Unskilled entry position so they could pay minimum wage. But in reality once you worked there they'd expect way more. I did routine maintenance and back-ups, spent a lot of time in server rooms patching cables, did a lot of issue solving on my own.
So on my resume I definitely just wrote 'system administrator' because in reality that's what I was doing.
Jan 2020: completed my 2nd STEM degree in computer science. With high honors.
Jan - Nov: Submitted several dozen applications. Had zero interviews.
Nov - Feb: signed up for a coding camp.
Feb - June: after 40+ interviews and coding assessments, finally landed a job as an entry level programmer.
Things people say "it's a very competitive field" also.... "we can't seem to fill these positions, there's a shortage of talent"
Let's be honest. Companies want to complain about "shortage of talent" but are very much unwilling to train employees. Like Sabrina's previous video echoed what we all knew: they want experienced people for entry-level positions
There is no shortage of talent, there is a shortage of talent willing to work for the wage that they want to pay for it.
In fact companies are like girls, they want the perfect employees already talented to work
@@supergonzales8257 thanks for the misogyny
@@Nardi11011 comment made me laugh :D
I’ve been applying to game design jobs for the last couple of weeks without any success so far. Turns out no one has looked at my portfolio which is linked in my resume (based on SquareSpace analytics). Now I find out there’s also an ATS scanner. Probably didn’t help that the resume was custom formatted to fit the look of the portfolio. Le pain is real.
don’t tell me all the hours I’m spending on my personal website is for nothing ;o;)
I know that feeling. I did a University degree in Games design and all my lecturers said I should make a custom CV and really "show off my creative skills" to quote them. It turns out, there's not a single auto-fill AI that can read it 🤦♂️ now that I know about the ATS, I doubt any of companies I applied to have even seen my CV
That sounds pretty close to my problem
Yeah same here but in Arch/PM. Ive spent days on my resume getting it to stand out but fortunately I'm at the beginning job hunting so only done a few applications that were promptly rejected. The auto fill was pathetically bad which makes me think ATS scans are the same. So there goes the fancy resume, back to word I go. Incredibly annoyed that visually specialised fields would use these systems.
I have used those pretty Behance resume in the past.
Wasted so much time with those.
I keep a "complete resume" and pare it down and customize it for jobs.
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I do that, too
I've tried that, but then when I run it through a checker, it flags my "employment gaps" from taking off jobs that don't fit the listing.Since employment gaps are a big no-no that will get your resume discarded before a person lays eyes on it, I keep my resume as complete as possible while trying to not go back more than 10 years. If the last job that was closest to the one I'm applying for is further back than that, I still include all my experience back to that point (though, if your job experience in a related field is more than 10 years old, you're likely not to be considered for the new position unless you have several years in that position).
Great part about submitting resumes right now, is the number of spam calls we all get suddenly becomes demoralizing instead of just annoying.
God yes I never see anyone talking about it. I'm trying to find work as a translator and I keep getting fake wrong number scam texts in my language and it just feels like a huge slap in the face. Half of the listings are phishing scams now.
Don't forget the scam emails and text messages. Nothing like worrying whether you are clicking on a legit job offer or malware to get your heart rate up.
"Why is writing so hard"
me: half expecting a grammarly advertisement
Underrated comment 😂
The way this came out *exactly* when I needed it is kind of frightening, but.... very much appreciated 😌
same frfr
Same
Less you specifically, a huge part of the US population is looking to change jobs right now.
There's plenty of research showing that having an "ethnic" name can also get in the way of getting hired. Multiple research groups worldwide submitted the same resume under different names and the White sounding name got more callbacks.
(This has worked out for me - I started reducing my ethnic last name to an initial and my interview rates skyrocketed)
WOW. And if you have an 'Ethnic' first and last name? Unbelievable 🥴
This. People like to hire their own.
The racism is tight but no worries, they will pay.
I always thought this was BS, until I started trying to get employed in my industry about a year or so back. I'm an immigrant, so my name is as ethnic as you can get. The only big firm I had applied to that went through the effort to actually respond to my application has a Greek director, I got a few callbacks from firms ran by Greeks and/or Italians, and my first job (the one I'm currently at) has a Cypriot director. Our suppliers give me a hard time over my name sometimes, and in the four months I've been employed, have been asked numerous times why I haven't changed it to something easier.
*And I'm European!* People are supposedly not even racist to us anymore...
@@egg_2705people tell you to change your name? So disrespectful
Getting a job with no previous experience and no connections is practically impossible! Thanks for the info though hopefully it’ll help.
Life Hack: Look for non paid internships. Research what they do there and then write on your resume you were there doing the things you researched about that unpaid internship. When the background check is done, give them a number to someone you already know, who will vouch for you. If they ask for a W2/Paystubs, then you can tell them it was unpaid, so you don’t have that to provide but can connect them with “HR” to verify you working there.
Also, contract positions are easier to get, go through them.
@@NewBlueTrue Unethical Life Hack*
@@alex15095 But companies will lie to people, force them to work unpaid overtime, make promises they don’t fulfill, cancel or reduce their benefits, not pay them enough to live on, lie about salaries, force people to move without giving them relocation benefits, and fire them without notice regardless of the workers’ circumstances. People shouldn’t feel “unethical” about doing what they have to do to survive. Just my two cents
This is honestly my main reason for considering suicide tbh
@@CatONineCheese Relatable
Sabrina, how did you eventually get your parents to understand that applying to jobs now is not the same as when they were your age? How?? Please, I need to know, my mom last applied for a job in the 1980s and is full of advice that was probably amazing at the time but is sadly no longer correct.
It's tough for parents to think they don't have anything useful to contribute to the process now. It sounds like she is looking for a way to help and having trouble believing things could be different enough that her experience doesn't apply. Depending on what you would find helpful maybe forward articles or videos like this, have her help make the comparisons to the job posting, or think of jobs you might want to apply to, rather than provide advice. Also depends if she has time - maybe just asking for moral support without trying to help would be best.
@@nikipound this was incredibly insightful. Thankyou. Moms are just trying to help the best they can :')
I have the same problem. The last time my Mom applied for a job was in the 80s, my Dad had his lined up the day he graduated college (never even really applied and claimed that graduations have lines of employers standing there to snatch up people), my grandmother last tried to get a job in the 60s and my grandfather last got a job in the 50s. Get all 4 of them on my case, telling me how to get a job nowdays and it's so blasted stressful I just want to run away and hide because everything I know about the world these days is wrong and everything I do is wrong by everyone's accounts.
Get her to find an appropriate job and apply for you.
Wait until you start apartment hunting or buying a house, you'll get the same thing all over again.
The last time my parents bought a house was like 25 years ago and no matter how many times I try to explain it to them, they seemingly refuse to believe how utterly f*cked the housing market is nowadays. Whenever I sent them apartments I've applied for or am going to view they tell me _"No! You really shouldn't apply for that one, it's terrible, it's not worth it. You should look for places like....."_ and then they list a number of requirements that would lead to a rent that's 3x my monthly income or something.
And when I tell them that - that places like the kind they describe don't exist in the price range I can afford they just say: _"Well, keep looking. You'll find something eventually."_
Meanwhile, despite having a fulltime job, I'm stuck in a crappy little studio apartment barely bigger than a dorm room.
"even if a robot is trying to take your job, it sure isn't ready to apply!" What a great outro ❤️
I appreciate you typing it because I def heard it wrong in the video and this is clever af 😂
I wanna be a software engineer though...
And now ChatGPT can apply to a job.
We had a resume writing class in college where we tested it against one of these AI. I was able to make one that passed that wrote of me washing dishes with gnomes and dancing with the spoons
I graduated with a CS degree a little over a year ago and it's been very difficult to get an interview even after over 250 applications (was working part time and didn't update my resume that much, just applied). Recently started the interview process for a few companies at a major tech hub after updating it with more keywords, using STAR for bullet points, and adding in the non-relevant work experience so it doesn't seem like I'm doing nothing all day.
What is STAR bullets?
@@leilanidru7506 Situation, Task, Action, and Result. Look up some examples. It's basically a way of writing descriptions to show what you did and what kind of impact you had. Since I didn't have any relevant work experience I just tried my best using it for my projects.
@@wonderfulwaffle3261 As someone in the industry I would definitely recommend that especially for new graduates. Also any relevant achievements made in your own time can make a huge difference too. We have snapped up several recent programming graduates on the strength of some contributions they had already managed to get accepted by well respected open source projects for example. Similarly make sure to include it if you have ever built projects that had public releases and successfully attracted and retained users this is another important achievement to include. Basically anything that can demonstrate applied skills in practical settings is going to be an advantage certainly puts you ahead of the pack compared to those with the qualification but no evidence of any relevant experience. This is especially true where you can show experience delivering success in actual market settings ie where your projects are being used by actual customers even if the only payment on their part was their time it still shows an ability to deliver products with market appeal.
shdjdkks 250!?! 😭 well im on application number 50 so far... maybe after 200 more I'll start getting interviews too haha
I'm a teen that aspires to one day take CS and become a software engineer, you're gonna be a senior by then, pls don't gatekeep T-T
One thing that I learned recently about ATS systems: they cannot read headers and footers, so if you have your contact information there, it gets discarded. They also use a default 1" / 2.54cm margin all around. So if you are using smaller margins, anything within the 1" margin space will not get read by the ATS. Also avoid using tables, ATS systems will mangle information in tables.
I feel that I am going back to typewriter days with using just tabs and spaces.
oh my god this might be my issue. my technical writing class said we definitely should format everything with tables. I've done 84 applications over the last 2 months, not even to anything special literally just grocery stores, starbucks, etc
"I'm all for applying to jobs I'm not qualified for!" - Me during my entire job search so far
EDIT: Also, legit the job posting for My Friend :) was so cute
Ditto. Although very weirdly, I was spreading my wild seed in mid-June but stopped applying because I gave up after around 6 months, and am staying at my previous job. But now (late September) I've suddenly begun hearing polite rejections and even had one phone interview for just a bunch of random companies I applied to as I got desperate.
I'll be doing that too. When you aren't qualified for anything, you have to. :(
I’ve applied to over 200 jobs in the last year… I’ve had one interview. So, yeah. Absolute french bread.
200? I am into 6 months of being unemployed in Britain - I think my application rate is around 500 jobs. Had 1 interview by video call, 1 unplanned phone interview (the employer just rang me and started interviewing me - it was a hijack) and 1 scheduled face to face interview...
@@atomiccritter6492 OMG!!! 500 is insane. The job market is crazy and impossible. Out of curiosity, did you tailor any of your resumes? I did with some and others I didn’t.
Wouldn't an alternative title be "I try to make an AI that'll write a resume that won't get you rejected" for the views.
(shhh we're saving that one as a back up lmao)
@@answerinprogress I shall remember that
I Wrote The AI That Writes You The Perfect Resume
@@answerinprogress sound good, but where can I send an application to be Melissa's friend? (10:04) lol
Put all the keywords for the job you are applying for in the same color as the page (white) in the header so the ats brings the resume to the front line. Works 1000% of the time. This is how my brother gets a new job with better pay for a different position every 2-3 years just bc he gets bored of the current one.
Do you mean make the color of the word white?
@@Dimasadi455 yes. Like make the color of the keywords you think they will search, the same color as the paper which would be white.
They use a program that looks for the keywords in resumes so they can narrow it down.
Now if they just happen to highlight the words on your resume. They will notice that you did this. Bc they will appear with the highlighter. But they most likely won't care at this point if your resume is interesting enough to them by this point. (Bc they are going to look at it first and most likely not even realize while reading it that you didn't even use those words in the first place, but you should still attempt to use some of them when possible. )
Make sense?
Are u fr right now bro, it seems like a joke lol 👻
@@peter-jbnah, as someone who once used that same trick to boost a 1200 word paper to 1500 words (anything very big would be noticeably shorter whole reading) and didn't get penalised, it sounds legit...
Me, a programmer...
First job: applied to about 20 positions.
Second job: didn't apply; was recruited.
If you get a job in 20 positions, thank your stars. The average I've seen is 100.
@@luisady8990
I graduated at the top of my class (11.84 GPA) with relevant co-op experience.
@@IsomerMashups Ok. Given that, the average might be around 80.
@@IsomerMashups I thought GPAs go to 5, at the MOST
@@DeathnoteBB
Many universities use a 12-point scale.
11.84 GPA is 4.28 on the 4-point scale.
When the ATS apparently has troubles with unique formatting but your teachers all throughout school and higher education taught you to make your applicarions as unique and creative as possible.
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"like 70% of our applicants are of low quality" - about 40% of working age adults have degrees in the US
I wonder what that 10% overlap is about :^)
I stg i read an article that said the words "3/4 of our applicants are of low quality" but I can't find it anywhere and it's driving me insane
Well when you consider those with highly unmarketable degrees like general studies, gender studies, ethnic studies, philosophy, art, music, communications, etc., I’m sure that statistic suddenly makes more sense.
@@gobalbucs except all those are very valuable as well. for example, 1000 years ago philosophers were the most prestigious. art and music are priceless, and communications, well communication is key
@@pvic6959 And 100 years ago people thought that wounds get infected because of miasma. That hysterical condition if caused by raging female womb.
Lets not talk about what was good 1000 years ago.
Knowing that my resume is probably being rejected by a robot is so depressing. I feel like giving up.
Don't give up.
Same. I'm at the point where i don't care if nukes start raining down.
Yeah, unless you've kept meticulous track of your life, you can't write an accurate resume.
You'll probably lose out to nepotism anyway.
right…
Having just finished an interview that took, no joke, 15 months of applying to positions for, I could have used this a while ago. Glad I have it now tho
Edit: I'm not sure how I should feel with how many likes this has gotten.
Edit 2: As a sense of irony, it took less than 4 hours to get a response back, and I did pass the interview, so there's that.
proud that you made it, disappointed about the state of the world?
@@thesquishedelf1301 and a little bit terrified I think.
I can’t write a resume because it’s literally empty... no internship, no society participation, no nothing
Embellish your ass off. Like, don’t lie, but ever play a DnD game? Participated in team-building and problem solving activities.
@@DeathnoteBB doublespeak, perhaps?
@@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa I mean, it’s not a lie. That’s literally what DnD is. But people look down on games so if you just call it “plays TTRPGs” it gets less attention unless the job is relevant to TTRPGs
@@DeathnoteBB roll a charisma check
@@DeathnoteBB I tried that in my resume writing class. I put in there that I was the guild mediator in EverQuest. I solved lots of issues and put an end to quite a few squabbles. Failed the assignment because "gaming isn't experience." Heck, even being the treasurer for the Family Readiness Group for my husband's Army unit wasn't "Experience" either. If you don't get paid for it, it's not experience is what I've been told by many sources over the years.
Subject: Misclassification of Job Titles, by AI or lazy programming. I have had two computer jobs with the title Technician in the job Title, and the résumé / job host web sites ( all of them ) send me emails for jobs as 'Automotive Technician' or 'Mechanic'.
Related story, my wife worked as a Coffee Roaster, her coworker at the time was constantly getting telephone calls from Recruiters for a Java Programmer.
Should I even start at how "IT Architect" jobs vastly outnumber architect architects which makes scouring through job listings pain in the arse for no good reason.
Like, seriously, is it that hard to make a "field of work" category, so you can search within "Computer science", and not get bombarded with Mechanics and I could be within "Civil engineering" and not get programmer's offers? smh.
ok so I'm going to need a part 2 to this where you send these resumes through real application processes please and thank you! (If you in any way feel bad about wasting companies/peoples time... just do all Amazon job postings. They are by far the most likely to interview/decline based solely on an algorithm so I feel like they deserve the same.
Literally taking a break from job applications for a bit and this pops up, settled in with some ice cream and looking forward to watching this before I return to the nightmare
Good luck soldier! I just filled out a bunch and need to go back. 😭
My biggest issue with resumes is that they’re a significantly worse version of an Instagram profile. You put your best self of display while adding filters to make you look better than you actually do in real life. Except, resumes take it to another level. It’s all fake because everyone speaks in ways they wouldn’t normally speak, employers hype of job postings so that they’re fake to a certain extent, and applying for jobs just becomes a huge game of judging postings and applicants based off of an unrealistic version of themselves. But then you’re also told not to lie on resumes. But you’re encouraged to bend the truth. It’s ridiculous.
I also hate how people do community service and join clubs JUST to put it on the resume. If I were an employer and I had two identical resumes with the same GPA and experience and everything, except one has community service, I would not immediately want to hire the community server. Because I know that there’s a high probability that they didn’t even want to do it, but they did it just to make themself look better. Which is arguably worse than not doing community service at all. It’s the exact opposite of serving the community. You are serving yourself disguised as serving other people. So with the community server applicant, they are either a super nice person, or a super selfish person. With the person who hasn’t done any community service, at least I know what I’m getting. The other person is a coin flip. It doesn’t help me get to know you at all or if you’d be good at your job. Like, cool, you fed the homeless. That’s nice of you and all, but how does that apply to graphic design and how well you can meet tight deadlines while still creating a quality product? The answer is: it doesn’t.
I wish I were hiring for a position because I would sooner take the most honest people over the ones that doctor up everything to make them seem more qualified than they are. And if I ask someone how long it’ll take them to get a project done, I expect an honest answer. If I get some ridiculous, “2 hours” answer followed by 2 days of excuses as to why they couldn’t get it done in 2 hours, I’m not going to be too happy. I would rather you just tell me that it’ll take 2 days. I feel like resume building teaches people the wrong skills and tells people new to the workforce that creative lying is how you get jobs. “Don’t lie so much that you get caught, but lie enough to keep people interested.” It’s the dumbest mentality I have ever heard.
I have no idea how job hunting turned into this or why it’s considered normal, but we wouldn’t tolerate those kind of games in any other part of our life. But when it comes to jobs we’re just like, “Yeah, that’s just how it is.” By WHY is it how it is? And why can’t it change? Why are we forced to play by these arbitrary and vague rules that are so specific that if you don’t blindly follow them, your resumé gets tossed? I refuse to be a part of that, so I’m glad I was able to get my job. I made the resume that I thought best described me, I applied, and they hired me. I didn’t have to jump through any of those ridiculous hoops and I marketed myself as honestly as I could. I told them my experiences and my skills based on exactly how I perceive them. I didn’t spend time applying filters to give them a false sense of my accomplishments.
My company is closing in February, I'm looking for a job for the first time in almost 20 years and its brutal. I had thought since I wasn't looking for an entry level job it would be easier with less competition, and since I was willing to relocate I would have such a broad market to look at it wouldn't be as restricting. I have turned in an average of 10 resumes a week for 4 months, and I finally have 1 interview next week. I'm pinning a lot of hope on this 1 interview, I don't have another 4 months to get another! Maybe I should look into the ats service of it falls through
How did it go?
Hilariously I have also heard advice such as, "Don't directly use words from the job posting you'll seem fake. Instead put them in white text in the margins of the document. It's the only way to get a human to even look at your resume" And then later on, "The Applicant tracking systems will weed out resumes detected with hidden text. Your resume will basically never be seen by a human if you do that"
Sounds like the best way into that company is to apply twice, once with the white text, and a second time with keywords integrated in the bullet points. One of them is bound to make it past the system!
@@Selestrielle Nah they’ll probably both be flagged for being duplicates
Yeah, I really really wish we could get some kind of consistent standard for resume writing. Something really boring, identical, etc like school uniforms. Like in professional writing, you have APA standards. Follow these and you're golden.
@@Ck87JF Lmao I'm a professional writer and I'd never heard of APA. I work in entertainment so it's either standard screenplay format or some wild software-dependent company specific-formating.
@@Selestrielle the only time I used APA was in school when I wrote papers and they had a strict set of rules on how they wanted it done. It was annoying at the time, but it introduced me to the idea of rules creating consistency.
These videos always lift my mood by at least 22% they are very appreciated
Okay, so the most manually processed resume per job is the preferred one, which is... bad news. Because I will def. not spend hours per application to produce something that will be thrown out just because my actual experience doesn't fit or something like that
and thats totally ok! you do you! Everyone has their own style and we all just have to find a way to make it work :) Good luck out there!
Yup... They say to apply to jobs you really care about, but those take hours and still get you rejected. I've learned to expedite the process by applying to hundreds of jobs I don't care about, which really increases my rejections-per-hour ratio.
My current job at least is an office job that bumped me up from food service with a 50% increase in pay, and I had applied to it pretty randomly. I thought it used a bunch of acronyms and jargon because it was a really specialized position... but it turns out that the HR department just doesn't know how to write job listings, so I was qualified and got the job.
@@Donteatacowman Personally, I judge that my preferred position hasn't more chances to choose me, worse, they have fewer chances to, because they're popular positions. So I don't find interest into investing more work on something that have less chance to happen. So my strategy is to send a default resume to a lot of position, brute-force/spam, until someone by the law of probability choose me over other candidates. That leads to less than 10 interviews who will lead to 1 or less contract
As someone who has hired employees in the past, the Automatic filter was a NIGHTMARE!
(Possibly cos I'm in England where the common practice is to write CVs which have different formatting to Resumes and I am almost certain the program wouldnt have been customised)
Quite often I would only get down like 2 or 3 application total, often the other end of the country or several hours away from the location, which for a 15 hour job isn't worth the travel or they wheren't available for the shifts advertised.
Every single job I hired for I would have to go to head office to ask them to release all the CVs submitted and then I would get down like 20-30 to go through all in one go, depending on how long the job had been posted for, and majority of CVs sent where 100% better then the filtered ones.
It was a bit of a nightmare that left me short staffed for far longer then I needed.
Me just out of college throwing the same resumé at the wall everyday.
Probably why I’m still looking for a job.
This is so timely. I agree with other commenters on the whining about "no one wants to work" while their bots are throwing away people's resumes. My friends and I are struggling to trick the machines into at least giving us a chance at getting work. Thanks for yet another great video!
Love my college professor for wanting to get us jobs himself, but we need resumes for that. So he spent a whole class period talking about how to get a job, especially in a new industry.
Unfortunately, out of the whole night, the most surefire advice he had was to network. Get people to know what you can do by talking about it, then have them help you get a job because if they can put in a good word, you bypass all of this resume and application BS.
Yeah it works but also what the hell. Is knowing the right person really the only reliable way to get a job in today’s world?
Yes, yes it is. Because 90% of job openings are only open to people who already know people.
It always was. There was never a time in existence where knowing the right person was not more important than writing a good resume. This is not a modern thing.
I run a pizza restaurant, we'll hire just about anyone if they'll be reliable, I even take felons. And when I need employees, my first stop is not my hiring system, it's my current employees to see if they know of and recommend anyone. I will take firsthand knowledge of the quality of a person far before I'll take a screen with bullet points.
Your resume doesn't tell me if you can handle a heavy rush without freaking out, or if you'll show up for your assigned shifts reliably, or if you're detail-oriented enough to properly deep clean, or if you can keep your cool with a difficult customer. The people that we both know and interact with can. Simple as that.
20 custom resumes with 20 custom cover letters, each of which requires a day of research so you can look like you've done your research and have any shot at 1 of the many rounds of interviews. We are living in a golden age ... lol
It's quite interesting to see the differences between the applications in different countries.
In Germany you are generally expected to hand in a time line of your career path and a separate letter in which you detail how you came about to apply to this specific job and outline relevant or interesting experiences regarding the job in question.
And of course all the necessary certificates and so on.
I already knew that this is quite different to the CV in the UK but now know that it also differs to the US version. :)
The CV/resume isn’t the entire thing (in the US). A lot places now ask you certain question prompts (3-5) and you’re expected to write a small response for each. My job now asked to highlight the most unique job task I’ve had and why I enjoyed it. There’s also a cover letter you’re expected to write a lot of the time, explaining how your experiences fit with this job and why you’re a good noodle.
For super reference I’m in the west coast and have worked in labs/generally STEM type of services.
Minimum wage jobs typically don’t ask for all that though. Just the resume and to restate everything on the online app boxes.
The UK and US versions (indeed most anglophone countries) are almost the same. As a Canadian living and working in Germany, I’m amazed that companies do not really contact your previous references and have a short conversation with them. They just require “Arbeitszeugnisse”, I.e. reference letters. Reference letters are practically useless for most job applications in Canada because everyone knows you can forge them, and employers require contact information from previous employers so they can confirm that what you’ve written on your resume is accurate first of all, and also to ask any other specific questions they might have for the position you’re applying for. Amazingly this has never happened to me in Germany. Also amazing is that many job postings in Germany actually include some kind of contact information if applicants have questions. This is unheard of Canada. As a result, I’ve had way better experiences and success looking for work in Germany vs Canada, even though German is not my native language and Canada is my home country.
@@Zariel_999 I agree and try to not give out my reference's info unless required. Most individual application websites have the area as a mandatory thing to fill out with 3 professional references, with more of them being optional, and require email AND phone numbers AND company AND how many years you've known them before you can submit the resume.
Having vetted a lot of resumes, and not used an AIP (?) - not sure how common those are outside very big companies, my main feedback would be: 1) read the job description and, as Sabrina says, make sure it's clear how your skills are relevant (yes, this is really important!) 2) write it so a human can read it (it doesn't need to sound like a journal article) 3) keep it concise with the best bits very clear and hard to miss 4) I don't care if you like knitting/rowing/LARP - you're applying for a job, not to be my friend :'( 5) don't put your age/gender or a photo as it makes it harder to make an objective decision and (in the UK anyway) is considered very unprofessional
One would think that a resume has info related to the job lol
also, wdym by "write it so a human can read it"?
@@maestrofeli4259 when you've read 25 resumes in a row, it gets pretty tiring trying to decipher sesquipedalian phrases and you long for a bit of good old plain English. People tend to assume that if they use complicated words they'll sound experienced, but if you read enough resumes, you very quickly see past that!
A lot of people submit the same resume for multiple different jobs and it really shows. The candidates we hire are those that can demonstrate the skills specified in the job advert, so if those aren't obvious on your resume, it'll get skipped over.
The only thing I would say is don't assume it's not worth applying just because you don't have all, or even most of the skills required. In my personal experience people very frequently get hired who are missing skills if they interview well and have an interesting CV with potentially relevant experience in other professional areas (e.g. we might require magazine design skills but accept someone with strong website design skills as they demonstrate an understanding/experience of design)
@@notyrpapa ohh okay, thanks for answering!
Another bit of advice: assume the reader will stop reading after the first page, maybe even half-way down. The most-important thing needs to be near the top. You need a chronological list of experience, but don't start with that. Start with a few bullets that specifically address the desired skills. And like Chris said, be concise.
I’ve recently been in a position to review resumes from applicants. We didn’t use any filter software so I can’t speak to that. But I’ll say this:
How you format your resume doesn’t ~really~ matter. I want to know you have relevant experience and/or education. Everyone who gives you resume advice has their own rules and suggestions. It’s mostly BS. Heres what I think really matters
-keep it simple. Like, one font that you make Bold for headers simple. Crazy formatting is confusing.
-list experience in descending chronological order.
-only list relevant experience. I don’t care that you worked at a Cinnabon in the mall in school if we’re hiring a graphic designer (if you’re applying to that same company in a corporate role and left that job on good terms, maybe)
-volunteering, school clubs, donating time etc are all okay to list if they’re relevant.
-List education last. Some jobs just want to know you have a degree. Don’t list it first. It looks like you’re fresh out of school. If you are a current student, list that. But if you have ANY college at all, don’t list High school. It’s assumed. And don’t put your GPA. It’s tacky.
-You get one page! If you did the same job for multiple companies, you don’t need to describe each one.
-Save as a PDF!!!!! This is crucial. Different word processors and computers can see things differently, but everyone can see a PDF with no change.
-bring your resume to the interview, but assume they’ll already have it on their computer.
Oh…I already do all those things. But thanks
I have a question though this is a year later, like as a graphic designer can I write down freelance jobs for x company as a job experience??
Nobody can explain what "relevant experience" means in the context of a resume, without defaulting to just telling me to "lie because it doesn't matter anyway."
I hate writing resumes, especially having to deal with ATS. Also I'm an immigrant so I wonder if the ATS is geared towards citizens.
If it asks for immigration status at all, it likely is.
I hate writing resumes and interviewing bc it feels like I'm doing a Sane and Employable Drag Show 😅
feels like I should be onstage in a dingy club holding a mic like a skull in a Shakespeare play in my "Office Wear Drag Ensemble" cracking jokes about how much I love overtime and crunch and live to spend 7 hours a day doing data entry 👁👄👁 like here I am ladies, I'm giving you "Capable Of Meeting Expectations", I'm serving you "Professional Workplace Attire", and I'm doused in vanilla and HR-Compliant bodyspray!
They’re geared towards white middle class male US citizen no disabilities… sadly like literally everything else even tho most of us are outside this bubble in one or more ways
Experience from a non immigrant to Canada as a German: I applied for many jobs in the GTA area and got the silence treatment. I sent CVs in and got not even a response back that the resume was received. I got a rejection only once. I think a ATS pretty much looks for prior job experience and when the company names look not that Canadian, the ATS can sort you out. Some Canadian companies want 2 or more years of Canadian work experience as much welcoming the Canadian stereotype is. Your experience made abroad did not mean much. A lot of bias can stem from these ATS, which might not be ethnically nice. I can imagine that it sorts out "strange names", it can sort out people who have work or educational experience not in the country.
If it mentions immigration status, then yes. If not, then it's geared towards no one. In a bad way.
I failed the resume writing part of one of my classes that was supposed to prepare us for job hunting. Why did I fail it? Because they didn't want anything over 5 years old AND wanted every second accounted for. I had nothing to put in entire sections. I asked if I was supposed to fictionalize the project which would completely render it null, void and totally not helpful, and they were offended I would even ask such a thing. I really don't understand why no one can agree on formats to be used or information to include. Why can't the companies just make a form to be filled out with the information they want for the computer to go through? Oh, wait...I know why. Because it would make sense and things would work on both ends.
Yeah, the whole thing is a big pile of catch 22's. "Don't write down irrelevant jobs/experience." So you don't write down the irrelevant job you did for a few years. "Why do you have nothing on your resume between 2015 and 2018?! Are you a lazy bum who sits at home doing nothing?"
Actually writing that down makes me realize how incredibly hostile these things are towards mental health. Like, as if laziness is the only reason you'd have no job experience entered in a certain year. Yeah no, let me fix that: "2017 - Stuck at home suffering crippling depression." Better?
Hey Sabrina why didn't you create fake resumes and sent them to several companies to see who would hire you?
I wish she had done that so we can see some real world application.
Because that automatic rejection letter doesnt show up until 3 months later, and if she actually got an interview, it would put her in an awkward spot to have to say "I actually dont want this job I was doin it for the views"
@@lovemusicbandchorus well the easiest excuse is always just say you already got a job and decline the interview.
Writing this before watching, but my take on why it's so difficult to write resumes is because you're effectively writing a custom advertisement for an audience that you have no information on.
You know you've made it when you get sponsored by Google
The biggest issue I've had is HR departments not being knowledgeable about the skills they are hiring for. I had a resume rejected for not having experience that was all over my resume, because I used a more specific term than the one they knew to look for.
People who work in HR are some of the most low skill people. I really don't understand what their purpose is besides covering up the companies flaws to avoid lawsuits and making bad hiring decisions
Being a friends not a job. its an unpaid internship.
99% of the time I apply for a job I get rejected thanks to being disabled. Sometimes it’s even as far as after I fill out the new hire paperwork and when they find out about my disabilities they never call me back / don’t ask me to come in anymore ): the only places Ive ever been accepted (didn’t know the owners personally) were two places that are massive corporations
I understand the frustration. I've been procrastinating my resume and job search for 7 years now. My procrastination has been so extreme that I even started my own business.
That's exactly the route i'm going down. Why go through the hassle of looking for a job when i can just create my own job. Then i don't have to work for some insufferable sh*t-for-brain for peanuts on the dollar. And then there's no HR to worry about, no getting fired etc etc.
"you can't just go into places anymore and show them your resume"
Arguably, you can! It's how I got my current job at a printing store, my boss saw me come in and ask if their hiring, and said, that that was the reason I stood out, and got hired, and got me many callbacks in terms of entry-level jobs.
Both electronic resume application submission and in-person definitely help in terms of catching more chances and I'd argue to do both if you can!
So it happened one time...
I was legit in the middle of failing at writing a resume. Thank you so muchhh
me tooo I set up a linkedin after 2+ years of procrastinating, ran my cv through an ATS scanner for the first time and it didn't pick up any of my past experiences (rip), this video is actually some really solid advice for modern jobhunting!!
I am 64 semi-retired with a couple of disabilities that limit what I can do. Still I have worn many hats over 40 years. I am now that guy you can come to and say, "I need this project by this deadline." My reply is give it here and if I have questions, I'll come looking for you." Then I go do the job. I have been a pastor, truck driver, writer, photographer, school bus driver and a few other things thrown in. How do I make that fit into a bunch of boxes? Oh, I forgot, I'm also a licensed drone pilot and have taken Google's IT course on Coursera. This is what is frustrating for me, I need to sit down and talk face to face with someone who can listen
This info about ATS scanning services is super useful. I have a great resume that’s organized really well for human viewers, but I’m pretty sure the format confuses some ATS systems. Gonna definitely check some of the services out to see what changes I need to make.
some quirks of ATS that I learned recently: they do not read headers and footers so any info there (such as contact information in my case) gets discarded. As well, they use a default 1" / 2.54cm margin all around; if you use a smaller margin, any text into the default margin does not get read. Lastly, don't use tables - ATS will mangle the information in tables.
I feel like I am back to using a typewriter: just tabs and spaces. Wordprocessing software not required.
Oh man, please DO an episode about literacy. Talk about what it is, how we teach it, how navigating the world becomes difficult without it. ALSO the Ontario Secondary School Literacy test is both full of *French Bread* for participants and teachers BUT it actually gives us some great data. I want to hear some amazing rants about the OSSLT (and as an educator, I'm sincerely sorry for it's existence.)
I have asd (autism spectrum disorder) and I have major difficulty In understanding The concept behind sending and being analysed through a CV... But I know nobody on planet earth Who cares enough tô sit with me and show me where I am being in The wrong. Do you know someone Who can help me?
I don't know whereabouts you are in the job search, like how confident you are for instance. But to start you off, I think meta-job searching is important. You can find out a lot just by doing research and asking google questions.
To answer your question, if you study at university or school, there may be careers counselors that can go through your resume. It's also worth considering other options such as recruiting agencies, any ASD services (maybe there are some offered by your government, I'm not sure) and even networking. Talking to anyone (friends, family, people online) can be valuable.
I wanna see what suggestions other people have too.
@@harleykf1 As someone with ASD gotta love how all of our help options requires us to go find and network with people.
Gotta network to get help on how to network with your disorder that impairs networking.
@@aevum6667 that's a very good point, I'm talking purely from my experience. But also remember, by watching the video, you're researching, at least a little bit. Even by talking to me, you're gaining a bit of experience with networking. Job searching is far from a fair game, but you can still improve your odds by being willing to learn how.
I'm having a hard time finding ATS websites that are free, does anyone know a couple?
Congrats on the new job, hope a lifelong friendship has just been formed
Having worked as a resume reviewer/writer and career coach for a good few months now, I can also tell you that the biggest problem people tend to run into in their resumes is that they're trying to just put down everything they did in their work. Tackle the writing by reading the job description's bullets and matching your experience to that then writing. Same principle as: it's difficult to list off all the words you know, but it's a lot easier to list off the synonyms you know for a specific term.
French bread needs to be the new slang for pain! I love it too much!
I have a LaTeX resume template with most of the stuff constant and 4-5 variables. I just change those each time I apply so they get accepted , but less work for me
I tried LaTeX, but had difficulty figuring it out. So mine is in HTML+CSS because that's what I know, and I don't have to fight auto-formatting or rendering inconsistencies.
I feel sorry for you northamericans here is more simple. We apply with a simple resume that we handed on paper in person or through the internet and you get a call or you don't. Sometimes you get called to an interview if it is more of a bigger job if I am expressing myself well. Your system seems to be WAY more complicated.
What country are you in?
@Aelanar Brightfield has to be Canada, everything is better there
@@turolretar God I hope so
@@turolretar what part of "you north americans" made you think their Canadian. Also it's just as shit in Canada. source applied to jobs in Canada
It’s really hard talking to my parents about the current job market. My dad has had (2) jobs in his entire life, and my mom stopped working after having 3 of her 5 kids…. Which was 30 years ago. They have NO idea what this world is like. They’re input and advice is so jarring, it actually makes me depressed. It seems they lived such easy work lives. “I never had more than two interviews to get a job!” Unreal.
Having recently gone through being hired, I think I had a decent strategy: I applied for like 15 jobs, but I reeeeaaally wanted to work for 2 of the companies. So I made a Generically good enough resume (TM) for the rest of them, and spent all my time thinking about the jobs I really wanted. this meant that instead of writting 15 of them, I wrote 3, and I was hired by one of the jobs I really wanted and had a chance in one of the other ones (But that one I had some extra outside help, so may not reflect your life experience). Could help someone, idk
Since university I've been struggling to get a job in the area that I studied and after countless CV rewrites and wasted years working in retail I learn that I've been missing opportunities because I didn't know that my CV that a human would read and find impressive would be read by a robot and rejected. HR are very quiet about this dirty little secret and still giving us CV advice from the 1950s
Well, I'm definitely putting, "I wrote a novel at age 12 and a play at age 10" but more elegantly on my résumé, because that feels like a pretty good thing to have been able to do.
Were they published or just things you did as a hobby and never finished? Asking for uhhh a friend
@@DeathnoteBB The plays only 5 minutes and was just for fun, since I had the idea, and the novel is still being written, but by the time I'm having to write résumés it'll have been finished.
Oh, nostalgia! I wrote a novel-length text at age 13-14. (Like many first attempts at art... it does not deserve the title "novel". Still, I learned a lot.) Then I became a computer programmer. Life changes. Best wishes for your future writing endeavors.
I created a databank of everything I’ve accomplished, and everywhere I’ve worked, and been educated. When I write a resume, I pull the relevant data I need for the specific job. The more information I put in my database, the easier the resume.
But when it comes to cover letters, forget it! Lol. The best bet there is is find a template you like and hope for the best.
But doesn't saying that out loud sound incredibly insane that you're keeping track of that much information...
*JUST* to get a job?
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 no I’m keeping track of my life and my accolades, and it’s par for the course if you want a 6 figure salary.
The best advice I’ve heard is “be recruited” It’s hard. It’s impossible, but many job listings exist only as a formality. The company will probably promote from within or a friend or family member will be hired.
When chat gpt didn’t exist yet
See in Germany, many employers don't actually want a personal statement or objective with their CV, simply an overlook of your previous education and employment as well as key skills. Therefore CV writing isn't really a thing. You can generally use the exact same "Tabellarischen Lebenslauf" for each application. Employers will ask for a "Motivationsschreiben" which is a statement on your reasons for pursuing a particular job. That's like the only part of the application that needs to be customized, I didn't know that in other countries it's the CV. hahaha
Usually, I call the place directly after a few days to ask if they had a chance to review my resume. That's how I got most of my interviews.
I remember writing my resume purposely generalized. As in “I like to [do hobby]” or “working at [company] would be…” so I could always fill in the brackets with the relevant information regarding the job I was applying for.
Made it a lot easier to just tweak it than writing an entirely new resume. ^^
That’s good for a cover letter, but your actual resume shouldn’t contain that kind of information
"The last time I applied for jobs I think I was trying to be a Business Analyst"
That's so much 'french bread'. I graduated as a BA and I'm trying to find a job. But no one really wants a "young" BA to lead when they could just get an experienced old guy.
Oh wow I am actually rn trying to explain to a boomer how resume reading robots work
If you look up some ATS sites, you can pull job descriptions from job ads that closely align with your resume.
Then, get with your boomer buddy and show them the process. Depending on how well your resume aligns with the ATS, you both might be surprised at how low of a score you get in the first round - I was. Reworking the resume to fit the job description will immensely boost your score.
@Brandy Allen um chile
I think resumes also get rejected because people generally do not write very well when we are nervous. What is more nervous making than a job interview? Not very much, but that is EXACTLY what a resumé is supposed to end with. Hence, resumé rejection.
I have a tendency to only remember things I learned in class while I'm in the classroom. When I leave the classroom all that information leaves my brain only for it to return the moment I enter the classroom.
I had always called this situational memory, so learning that it actually has a proper name and that it's not only me with this issue is a huge sign of relief.
Dunno if this plays out in the private sector, but in the public sector (US Gov't. work), there's actually a very specialized process to writing a resume, and it's not exactly communicated. So let me explain a little bit.
In the job posting, they'll put the requirements and qualifications as an ordered, and/or numbered list. That's actually a cue for the applicant, these are your K.S.A's. You're supposed to turn those into questions, and then answer them using the S.T.A.R. narrative format. Situation, Task, Action, Response. So you play story time, and it could be an entirely fictional story, they don't actually give a shit, as long as it has a resolution that is believable enough to have happened. You write these out for each bullet in the requirements as a part of the notes section of your resume. Now, with my process (I'm actually currently applying for a promotion so this is all fresh to me right now), you're limited to the number of characters you can have for your KSAs, so they need to be detailed, lengthy, but also short. It's fucking infuriating when trying to explain context. Your whole thing should be limited to 5,000 characters, but the job can have 24 KSAs. So you get nearly a sentence a piece. As part of the interview process, you're more or less doing the same thing.
All that said, yeah you kinda have to tailor your resume slightly to each application. For my recent one, I had to do major revisions, but it's all good, since it's only one application. I am curious how this works out in private sector, whether it would get auto filtered out or not. But I think if it doesn't get filtered out, it might look really good to an employer that you actually read all parts of their posting. At least, that's what the feds are looking for.
I think ATS is the reason for the labor shortage.
I wouldn't be surprised. Qualified candidates who don't play the games either because they don't know or refuse, just shouting into the void.
This is the kind of thing that isn't reflected in your *GPA* if I'm being honest. 17/10 helpful.
I would not qualify for that """job""". You see, ... the job posting doesn't say an important detail... location. I'm in China which is thousands of kilometers from wherever you are which instantly makes me 2147483647 times less suitable for the job.
is this a maxed out 32bit integer
I really wish Melissa had a better mic setup, Sabrina’s voice is always so clear ❤️ good job with the video, pals! 👯♀️
Can't wait for the follow-up "why you are actually illiterate"
It’s weird that I fully expected Chat GPT but the video is from two years ago
Funny video, but I was hoping you'd actually send a lot of bogus resumes to an actual posting and see if you get more hits from one vs the other.
Ok, so I did love this video. Not specifically cause you created an AI, though that was cool too. I think I most appreciated your approach with the 4 resume and tbh that Sabrin B wasn't hired. Just tickled me. Love your videos