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Freelance. If I can do it, anyone can. Find one good freelance job -- ideally from a *small* business owner, do a good job, use that as a reference, and get the independent contractor tax docs if they ask for it. One good freelance reference can take up several months of a gap.
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those days actually the job offers lie more than even most creative liar could even imagine. I actually miss work market when it was ruled by employers ... at least you had chance to see thier true face ... now they are hiding everything and try to appear better than they are. Back then ... they said there are 100 more people outside waiting to take this job. It is really not good and in fact nowadays people jump from job to job more than before not because they can't keep it but mostly because of lies from companies. Once people learn work is not what they were promised to move on ... onto next company that lies even more hahah. Well good for me I learn from mistakes and I cannot be fooled anymore easily. Better late than never :)
@@GarlicGrinder9 at one job interview I had where the employer hated my previous employers reputation to the point that all of my perfect responses to there questions resulted in them ignoring the answer. In the above example I eventually said you ignored every answer I gave this interview I might as well have lied about the company name I would have gotten a fair interview.
It’s crazy how people can control your opportunity for a job regardless of credentials. I dated a chick that worked in HR and would go over resumes from home when I would be at her house and she would pass up more than qualified people for ridiculous and dumb personal reasons. People put years and finances into their careers just to be judged by someone who shouldn’t be in that position to do so.
I feel that. I used to work as an HR officer for a media agency and I am absolutely proud to have hired one of the best hard working and talented people. They seemingly didn't "fit the bill" for what was to look for but they knocked it out of the park when it came to delivery. There was always a chance and a risk when taking on people that didn't necessarily have the qualifications but had the "ability" to fulfill the job. Sadly, had to leave because I was moving to a different country.
HR clowns are genuine scum half the time. They judge engineers by shit they dont even remotely know about. What ends up happening si that these retards hire litteral NPC's and robots
Most HR is people who have a degree, and pleasant people and absolutely useless for anything else. Someone there (HR) does most of the paperwork but they NEVER are involved in the hiring process. The HR hiring people often have not a f*cking clue what the job is they're hiring for, and they look for "keywords". Often they let software search for those keywords. No keyword, or the wrong one, your resume hits the electronic trashcan. As for interviewing? How can you evaluate someone for a job, when you have no inkling what that job is or does?
Well if the company is prestigious it is great since it will help your resume and finding a new job plus negotiating like saying "I worked at the best company in the field so I am basically bringing myself down for you guys so I expect some perks otherwise fuck you cuz I am an elite" Or at least I hope it will when the time comes
I always have to say it through clenched jaws too. I'm just sitting there like "this is just gonna be another corporate smelling trash bin that lasts 2 months again", but YES I LOVE YOUR COMPANY
As an 18 year old who just finished school, I already have 25 years of experience in both marketing and nursing, as well as a PhD in economics and a doctoral on oral health
Yours is nothing compared to me being a 26 years old with 40 years of experience in half of the country industries as well as having a PhD in business and master degree in engineering as well as 3 gold medals at the Olympics.
Yea pretty much. I flew through an ice storm and accumulated 3in of ice on the wings and got the flight done. My airline didn't believe it. But I tell them the story about running across the airport to save a passenger's bag (Which I never did) and all of a sudden they believe me.
Out of college, everyone that I know of that lied, got jobs immediately. The honest ones never got jobs and it wasn’t until they lied that they got a job lol. This stuff is real.
I tried at 18 applying to every retail and fast food place with zero work history, not one job offer. Tried again a year later and lied as if the last year was spent working at McDonald’s, fucking immediate job interview 🤦🏻♂️ These employers will forget where u said you worked the same day u told them to be honest. Just lie, it’s okay.
@@premejon8300 that's the thing I hate, jobs won't hire you do to lack of experience but like how do they expect you to get experience if nobody will give you a chance AND the fact that it's some retail/fast food act this way is crazy
A friend of mine told me that he lied on all of his resumes back in the day. When they asked if he was familiar with computers, coding, etc he said "Yes" when it came time to do the job he would say stuff like "Oh you know the OS I used is different, or the equipment I used was different at my last job. Could you show me how to work it?" It always worked and he learned how to manage data and do other things very well. One of the biggest factors is confidence. If you ask to be shown, and get scared when all the information is given, or think "I can't do this" you will probably fail. Also a lot of good jobs require common sense rather than education. (Just throwing that out there)
I wish your friend would make a video talking about his experience. That sounds awesome if you can actually pretend you know how to code and then get a job and learn from them! It kinda reminds me of how some jobs will give you a 2 week bootcamp to understand their programs/how they run things. I would think that a 2 week bootcamp would be just enough to understand something like coding/management to be fair! It's not like you need to know math or actual scripts, just search it up for the most part lol!
You know your last statement actually applies to most jobs. If the job is venerable, they really just want to hire competent people with a healthy mindset. The problems come from funneling your applicants into arbitrary restrictions and pretending that how they react to those is reflective of all future behavior.
it's disgusting. my dad always taught me that integrity was the #1 principle to abide by in life. In job hunting that is _THE WORST_ principle to follow. But it's really hard to break out of--I have a lot of guilt when I lie.
I've never needed to lie to get a job. What are you talking about? You should advocate for your experience. You should put a positive spin on things, I guess? But why would you need to lie?
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@Kry Kry - Some clarification. You can’t outright lie, that makes no sense. If you can’t back it up, don’t put it on your resume. The goal is to get past recruiters and filters. Once you have the interview, they will give an offer if you know what you’re talking about, and mesh with the team. You can make up the title on the resume, but always use your official title when filling out forms for the official background check.
@Kry Kry Firstly which agency are you talking about? Recruitment agencies never fact check your experience they would simply accept what you give and forward it to companies, which I am hoping they do cause usually they are only in it for the money. Secondly, let me ask you also this - which companies search and fact check or verify? If they look at your resume and see the experience they need they would hire you immediately. That is just leaving the countless biases that also goes with recruiting.
Being honest for a large part of my life only made me gullible and caused me to suffer. It wasn't till I started playing the game too that things started to go more in my favor. Now I know it's more about who you chose to lie to and who you are completely honest to. If I told a thief I have $100 in my wallet, he will mug me. But if I lie to him and I'm confident enough to do it, I can walk away from the situation with my cash. True story. Already has happened to me 3 times. And the one time I was "honest" and told him I had 10c in my pocket, I got mugged.
Something I've started noticing in the workforce and I'm just 3 years in. Honesty is viewed as weakness when you admit fault and they pounce on you. Yet when you're honest and politely state that someone else may have messed up, you're somehow dodging accountability and being immature or offensive. But people will be quick to blame you when it saves their own ass. Exactly why I don't consider friendships with people I work closely with. Except maybe 1 or 2 whose character shines above all the rest of the fake trash in the ethos.
Lying on my resume got me a $12 pay increase, and I’m still holding that job six years later. Often enough, they expect you to enter knowing something you’ll learn quickly at that place of employment. Learn quick, and no one knows
Being honest and truthful will only hurt you on your résumé. I’ve seen applications for a job get turned down for stupid petty or illegitimate reasons.
@@PamdaBear1 any, life isn’t hard. Work isn’t hard, few jobs require a truly special individual. I’m a shift lead Welder. Two of our best guys lied about being certified. I have welded for five years and lied about having shift lead experience. I just had to say I had experience and the job was mine with the $12 jump. Doing the exact thing I always was, simply telling others to do the same things I’m doing.
@PamdaBear1 generally office positions are simple if you're a quick learner. Don't blatantly lie but definitely oversell your skills if you want an office job. Otherwise you'll never get into the office/corporate environment.
If you ever have a gap in your resume, just say you were taking care of a loved one that is no longer with us. They will drop any further questioning after that and if they do then they’re not worth working for.
@@akashverma4280 basically yes. you just bend the truth where it helps, you hide everything that doesn't need to be known and you over glorify all your good aspects. the only thing you don't lie about is stuff that they can realistically debunk, like a skill that you don't actually have (or can't learn in time).
That just sounds smart but is actually stupid. If there are two options, and one is the opposite of the other, then the second best option is also the worst. The best policy is actually dishonesty, clearly.
Well, for me if they don't ask just don't tell them. If you can't lie, just "double speak" or do not tell them. It's easy, I've been there. I managed to secure some job offer but due to salary expectation i refuse until i got i a better offer.
"Honesty is the best policy," is one of the worst lies we're taught as children. And we're taught it so that the liars above us can take easier advantage of us.
No, that’s not why you’re taught it. Honesty is the best policy. Any corruption you allow into your life breeds more. It will crush you, drain you of life and cause unforeseeable complications and hardships. Your role applying for jobs is to see through the listed “requirements” for what they are - dreamed up qualifications. Every job requires learning the technical aspects, the specific methodology used by organization and navigating the social structure. The requirements listed are literally not what they actually need in an applicant. You are not just your resume no more than the employer and job position are the company bio or the job listing.
No shit. You’re gonna have to lie to customers so the company doesn’t get sued cuz you don’t know how to lie. Its a legit reason not to hire you. Innapropriate Honesty is also a sign of stupidity and a childish mentality.
True story, a guy at a wal mart in Michigan put on his resume he was in the military, 82 airborne and officer. He was hired and quickly began stealing thousands in electronics as a manager. Had he not been greedy he might had never been caught. Once they checked his background they found his resume was all bull 💩
It's because they have 1000's of applications just like yours you didn't make your piece of paper stand out enough. If that means stretching the truth with a few little lies sprinkled in-between so be it. Gotta get good at bsing Edit: Honesty doesn't pay the bills
My dad always told me that many people in the job industry fall under the following: Tell people the truth and they'll call you a liar, tell them a lie and they'll believe you.
Been a programmer for 20+ years. I don't disagree with anything you say here. You do anything you have to to get to the interview, resumes are just to get past the HR flunkies and to the tech people. If you really don't know your stuff the tech people will figure it out pretty quick in your interview. I will tell you when I've been the most honest in interviews is when firms have wanted me the most. At one of my last ones, one of the first questions was "Why do you want to work here?" My answer, "I don't know that I do, that's why I'm at this interview to decide if I want to work here." I think the interviewer was so taken aback that I wasn't kissing his ass and doing corporate speak, that we actually had a really good discussion with him selling me on the company for the rest of the interview.
I was asked the "Why do you want to work here?" question before. I answered, "Your recruiters keep contacting me about this job so I finally agreed to see why they wanted me so badly." I did not get the job because the salary was too low and it went unfilled for more than two years. I knew that because another recruiter called me over a year later about the same job.
This highlights everything I hate about job applications/interviews. What is their goal? - to find a honest, hard-working employee. What do they do? - Disregard anyone who tells the honest truth, and hires a bunch of liars instead.
IM 31, In my long experience of working on jobs, what I have learned is that HR is ugly and unhuman department, so don't be ashamed to lie to them they clearly deserve it, if you tell them the truth they will turn it into something negative and use it against you.
You’re right, I was in HR and for this fact I quit my field. It’s not that HRs are inhumane, the profit makers make us do all these kinds of things. After terminating all honest n deserving people we ourselves get fired. Companies lie big time too, they manipulate words for their own interest. Never trust anyone. so yes no shame in lying.
@First name Last name u REALLY SERIOUSLY expect ppl to work DURING A PANDEMIC!?!?!?!?!?!? When some jobs like small businesses and some restaurants have closed!?!?!? If u SERIOUSLY believe that ppl should RISK their LIVES for a dollar then you're the REASON WHY THE PANDEMIC IS CONTINUING TO SPREAD!!!!!!!!😡😩👎
@First name Last name it doesn't matter if ZERO PEOPLE died! If there is even a slight chance of death people shouldn't be going PERIOD! Other countries like denmark and Canada gave their citizens monthly checks or held their paychecks untill it was safe enough to return to work. Like it sad before it's people who think like u the reason why the virus continues to spread 😠
@First name Last name why don't u get it? JUST 👏 BECAUSE 👏 YOU 👏 ARE 👏 DOING 👏 GOOD 👏 DOESN'T 👏 MEAN 👏 EVERYONE 👏 ELSE 👏 IS! Of course our govnt needs to be shut down so the virus doesn't 👏 continue 👏 to 👏 spread! The governmen never took the virus too seriously anyway Tighter more controlled safety measures needed to be in place so that there can be faster vaccine rollout, contact tracing more testing so that way we can track exactly where the virus is coming from and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. But since our government never fully shut down the way IT SHOULD HAVE the virus skyrocketed. But as long as MY POCKETS are filled what's 200 thousand deaths right!? I mean what's a MILLION DEAD PEOPLE!? As long as I (ME) has what I need it doesn't matter how many die. (Obvious sarcasm)
This is legit fabulous. I'm a recruitment manager at a recruitment firm, I see the bullshit that hiring managers do behind people's backs. The harsh truth is that you're a piece of paper (your resume, obviously) to hiring managers. The key is to fill your resume with "half-truths," over-exaggerate your skills a bit but be able to competently explain them during the interviews. Job-hopping is generally a smart financial decision (realistically, hiring teams expect you to stay with employers for at least a year, unfortunately), always be searching for a higher-paying job while employed (obviously, don't quit a job until you have another one lined up). Be a politician in the 9-5 world, deliver mouth service when necessary, and do just enough to get by.
What do you do when you are a contract worker that can't seem to get a job for the 1+ years that you said employers look for? I seem to get work for, on average, 3 months and just be let go for the remainder of the year only to do the same the next year.
@@Denastus From my experience: Contract roles are no issue. I haven't heard complaints from hiring managers about candidates having a lot of contracts in their work history. If a hiring manager sees permanent roles lasting less than one year, they often complain about a candidate's work history being "spotty." A "spotty" work history isn't that big of a deal as long as it's from fully completed contract roles, but unfortunately hiring managers do prefer to see long tenures in permanent roles.
@@Denastussay you worked the whole year as a contractor. They called you when you were needed but remain employed throughout. That's how professionals in every industry treat it. You are what you do, not the time you spent doing it.
Definitely don’t lie on your resume for government, high paying, or information-sensitive security jobs. They tend to go thoroughly into your background. But yeah judging job gaps is bullshit.
I work for the government. They made me provide college transcripts + bring my diploma into the interview. They are also one of the only employers that ever actually called references and previous employers. Most private companies don't even bother.
I have access to the universities database in Ontario Canada. For $6000 I will give you a degree in anything you want with a GPA that puts you in the top 15% of your class. My best customers want University of Waterloo degrees in software engineering. It is a ticket to big time cash.
I spent nine months unemployed after I got my masters in computer science. I got plenty of interviews for the first couple of months, but after that, things just sort of went to a screeching halt. At one point I literally had a recommendation from a guy that was at a company for years. He thought it was a sure thing. When they finally got back to me, they asked me what I’ve been doing for the past X months. Needless to say, honesty did not get me the job.
Its hilarious because HR npc's are the biggest leeches of a company possible. They do fucking nothing 90% of the time and are just there to soak up wages. If Companies were to utterly BAN anybody with HR experience, we would be living in a litteral economic BOOM.
You should mail back the company address that you have been discrimanted against on a health basis. A lawyer would probably be up for this too and you have good chances in winning.
Takeaway: Your resume is like a coloring book, but you can color on it like you're 5. As long as the right colors are in the right spots, it doesn't matter if you're "out of bounds" because most people, despite what they tell you, are colorblind.
@@Alex-by4zv How my brain works. That's like telling a stressed person "don't be stressed." lol I can see how "try" could give a different connotation than I intended though.
My parents never teached me stuff like this. I was always too honest about everything and people always took advantage of me when I had a job. You are really teaching me how to stand up for myself. Mad respect bro!
If there's anything I can say, it's "Be honest where it matters most, but if there's a game going on, play it." As long as that game doesn't involve the lives or wellbeing of others. If it does, don't play it at all.
@@johannsebastianbach3411 You brought up a really good point. I remember a couple of years ago when I was very interested in seduction and the social dynamics between men and women. There was this guy who made youtube content. I think it was "RSD Luke". Or something like that. He was one of those guys who (ironically) enough told very honestly about how he lied to companies to get a job, so he could pay the bills. Without any clue what the position was about. Eventually he applied the same tactics so he could hook-up with girls. Everything was based on lies. In this day and age I think lying is indeed a good quality in the business life, same as your ex girlfriend. Relationship wise I don't think it would be a good tactic.
@@AlanakaBlackCatNot entirely, with people you know you can trust that are close to you it's not bad. At some point it's good to be honest not only for yourself but with others in order to be more happy on your life. I would say be dishonest in a work environment.
Yeah ive lied too many times on my resume. Give my friends numbers as references, extend employment dates etc. Idgaf. Just make sure you can actually do the job.
My integrity is important. I try to always be honest... to people. NOT to corporations. Corporations aren't people. It's okay to lie to them to make ends meet.
@@gqprince2 yeah, but the thing is even tough they are people, they dont give a fk about you. Its about what you bring to the company to make them more money. The human side is completely ignored even tough they pretend the whole office culture bullsh!t, etc.
Lied on my resume to get a job and ended up a supervisor 9 months later. They cared way more about my personality, work ethic, and molding me than what I already knew.
I work in I.T. My boss recently hired someone who came from construction and had no I.T. experience whatsoever. The reason he hired him because he is a hard worker, been in his job for the last 10 years (laid off) and has a great personality. I've met this new hire last week, he's cool as heck. Glad he joined our team.
Haven't seen this level of sincerity in a long while and you are right, life doesn't give you what you deserve, it gives you what you demand of it. You just earned a new subscriber. Kudos
I fudged the shit out of my resume for my current job. They checked and found that I did in fact have a huge gap that couldn't be accounted for. When they asked why I didn't tell them, I said "I was tired of companies punishing me for being unlucky." They still gave me the job. Doubt that would ever work again. lol
actually, if anyone ever calls you out on a lie, the best course of action IS to come clean. The person is throwing you a bone by confronting you about the dishonesty rather than disregarding you, and coming clean will actually instill greater trust as it shows that you are willing to admit you mistakes. You did the right thing though and through. Lie at first because that's the game. But if an employer actually confronts the lie with truth, then they are more likely an honest company and deserves honesty at that point.
@@manuelpacheco9790 Right it all boils down to if they actually like you or not. I've seen the differences how employees get treated simply based on how much the employee is liked.
@@pauljordan4452 What's an oath though? Swearing on the bible? Might work if you're of that specific religion. 'I promise i'm telling the truth' - said every liar ever.
So true. Can't count how many times I've been screwed with utmost malice just for leveling with someone. Only close friends are entitled to your honesty. That's not even a Machiavellian or edgy opinion.
Fresh out the military I was denied a security job because the HR lady didn't like how I presented myself. Despite having one hell of a resume for experience, professionalism, clean shaven/haircut ect, And when that happened I realized, it doesn't matter if you are more than qualified for a job or not. If one person doesn't like something they will just throw it out and then make up some excuse to their boss as to why they didn't hire. She later got fired ahh, sweet justice.
@@wookieeMan06 here in Germany apparently you don't get a job without a picture which annoys the f out of me because discrimination is still a thing lol
@@mjewan9920 gifted mammary glands? what? who puts that on their resume in the first place? or how does that even pop up and become relevant? There are some things you just don't tell people, as how do you organically bring up having gifted mammary glands? I don't blame the HR person for failing the applicant as just saying that would weird anyone out
Imagine going into a company, and grilling the company on why they have an open position. Are you a small company just now expanding? Will I have to worry about the company going under while I'm working here? Is there a problem with management? Did the last person leave because of a bad manager? Or is it because the last person costed too much? Will I have to worry about getting my pay cut in the future? Did the last person find a better position somewhere else? Should I just apply elsewhere if that's the case? Is it the work environment? If I work here will you work me like a dog? Were the other employees the problem? Do you have a problem with picking bad candidates for positions? God knows they would be just as insulted.
EXACTLY~! Ask: why should I work for you people, and why do you have "Now Hiring" signs on all your vehicles? Are you that good or are you that bad? Do tell me please.
Thank you for being a real person. It seems like nearly every youtuber that makes videos about their career in programming always acts like a golden child. I seriously appreciate how you level with us and show us the reality.
It seems most of the others are elitist "I got an internship with [massive corrupt failure of a bank infamous for destroying thousands of peoples lives]"
I needed this. I've been in and out of survival jobs for years. Any jobs that I seemed qualified for were so stinking competitive It felt I had no chance. I've always valued truth, but in an industry so fickle, It truly is shooting yourself in the foot to be transparent. I need to learn to play the game better. Wish me luck xoxo
That's in the US. Try doing that in France the employee will drag you into court and likely win. You can fire someone on the spot, that's your right. But if you do it without advance notice and/or without a good reason you'll have to at least pay some sort of compensation to the employee. And yes of course there are thousands of employees who had it coming and then it sucks that you have to follow a bunch of procedures to fire them. But in Rome, do as the Romans do.
@Magic Man at least there was some fairness there. I hope your NDA wasn't strong enough to prevent you from summarising what kind of job you held to your next employer. Cause F the NDAs that prevent one from even mentioning what skills they used at/learned/Improved upon during that period at X incorporated.
You technically don't "have to" you don't owe them anything, if you get another higher paying job, then leave. I've done it twice and I do not care or regret anything. When a job starts acting funny I act accordingly. Most I've ever given was one week. They can't force you to give two weeks.
@Magic Man That's pretty standard when you're dealing with "secret" information. I honestly preferred that -- you know the second you declare, you will be out the door. No awkward 2 weeks fumbling around about shit you don't care about anymore.
The whole resume and job application system is messed up. At the end of the day I think it's just designed so nobody really qualifies then they can show they tried to hire someone to satisfy union policies, then they can outsource the job. Same reason they expect 10 years of experience in a technology that has not even been out that long yet. When I was quitting an IT job and my job posting went out to replace me, I read it and realized I did not even qualify for my own job.
You’re 100% right. Some job recruiters on Twitter admitted to doing this. It’s because they’re gonna hire a friend or family member instead. The job system is a joke
one of my college professors told me that the best way to get any job is to stretch the truth pretty far. anything you don't know you can learn quickly and under pressure you'll learn it even quicker. Nobody knows what they will do or how, in any job, and the job will teach you no matter what the situation. Get the job first, learn the job as they teach it, and move forward.
I think this is true a lot of the time but it can go wrong too. Not too long ago I took a job that most get degrees for without any degrees or related experience myself. I actually was getting it down, but my coworkers were incredibly impatient when I would make inevitable mistakes or not immediately know how to do something. Bottom line, this idea works if you get a job with friendly and forgiving people, but this can also piss certain people off quickly too.
@@shamfyre Almost every boss I've had has lied so hard on their resume to get their position and it's so frustrating because often internal candidates get overlooked for promotion but then they hire someone from the outside who has the luxury of being able to exaggerate.
@NatashaEstrada at the end of the day, I would say that selling yourself is a skill in itself. You can be the most honest person in the world and under sell yourself but ultimately that is your own fault. I am not saying you have to straight up lie to be a competitive job applicant btw, but exaggerating a detail here or omitting something there is fair game imo.
@@shamfyre The problem is if you have a role that is not in any way shape or forme related to sales then having to sell yourself is exhausting. I'm trying to be more dishonest but it is anxiety-inducing. It's more annoying having to lift the load of people who don't know what the eff they are going. THAT I'm not doing anymore. You're gonna have to live and die by your own lies.
@@shamfyre I've also elaborate that internal candidates don't have the luxury of lying about their last job since everyone knows what your currently doing. So that's a little unfair. There should be some kind of compensating scale. Say an external candidate has to be 1.3x better to accommodate for white lies.
I want to point out two things: 1. This is why the economy is crippled. 2. CEO's are so greedy for the immediate money and blind to the lower-level operations, that they fail to take the necessary steps to make truely sustainable money. 1. People love blaming the working class...we're lazy, we don't know what we're doing - we're gaming the 'system' when in fact, the people that are passionate, loyal, more than capable, talented, and can excel the company into profits 10x fold typically end up getting passed up by someone who matched the words on the job description to their resume. You wanna talk about the economy. I'll put it in basic terms. More people taken advantage of + less passionate enthusiastic workers getting hired = less pay for employees, and less money for employers. 2. So much more often than not, we see people hiring for jobs that they don't understand the full day-to-day operations and average-talent requirement for, it's crazy. Seriously think about how much money in wasted talent companies spend every year because they not only failed to assess the job duties appropriately, but they also hired someone for work that's way above their ability anyway.
My Dad lied on a resume. After the first interview, he studied for the position. he became a cyber security expert in about two weeks. For context, this was during the early 2000's. He was an ET in the Navy prior, which used to be a hard job to get. He also had six kids to feed. He started his position making around 100K a year, he was making 250K a year before he quit his job to move to the Midwest.
I've lied on my CV and I feel zero remorse. Some are born into rich and comfy families that have contacts and allow them to do unpaid internships. Why is that fair? So yeah, I lied and said I had the required experience when I didn't. As someone on here said: Companies lie about how great the job is and wouldn't hesitate to fire you the second it becomes economically viable to do so. So yeah, lie if you need to and don't take it too seriously. It's just a job.
@@JediOfTheRepublic because busting your ass gets you nowhere. And as I've mentioned, why should companies get to lie about how great the job is, low-ball you in the salary negotiation, and fire you the moment it becomes economically viable to do so, and yet we the employees have to be good little slaves that do everything by the book. Are you able to answer this question? Let me guess you'l say something like "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!" Well they might pay our wages but we give them our time. And life's too short to slave for a company that lies through its' teeth.
@@JediOfTheRepublic Because busting your ass is stupid. There are too many people who happily waste their time slaving away for shitty wages and destroying their bodies and minds in the process. When you're old and tired with not much to your name other than some money you've saved up, the last thing you'd want to think about when you look back on your life is how you spent most of your living days working for other people.
@@weepingangel6805 "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!" I got a pretty similar answer from a colleague when we were talking about how our current employer constantly tries to screw over his workers.
Back in the olden days of masters and servants, when servants lived in the basement and served basically 24/7, there was a MASSIVE social machinery around making the servants good at serving and never questioning their lot in life, for example a whole genre of literature devoted to telling the message that ”God looks with favor upon those that serve”, ”be honest, have integrity!”, ”do not envy” and so on. Those are not values created to make people happy, they're created by the masters to make their subjects good little servants that work hard for others benefit. It's kind of fucked up when people who are basically slaves themselves defend those values. Like dude, you're brainwashed, and it is pathetic. It's a little more complicated than that, and I do think society needs honesty to function, but.
As someone whose always been honest even as a child this is difficult to accept but if the company doesn’t care about me why should I care about them 😓
Find something you care about and make that your passion. Build it like your life depends on it. Working 'jobs' felt and was like dying. My whole life changed when I started researching alternative work options. I realized I could sell some things online and see how that went. I started with a few items and now I haven't had a 'real' job in years. But it took me years to get to that place. Chear up, take a deep breath and treat yourself to a full night sleep. Life really does get better if you let it. Sometimes we just need to get out of our own way.
No company cares about you, they care about money, and will lay you off if it comes down to them making more profits doing so. You need to get used to being a pawn for EVERY company you work at. Your direct co-workers might care about you (and even then 90% of the time they wont), but the big guys in suits dont give a damn.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results" is something everyone understands in business except when it comes to people. People looking for jobs are judged entirely by their past.
@@junaids.9314 It was a few technical questions I was familiar with but not as advanced as they wanted. A few RUclips videos later and I was golden though.
@@junaids.9314 when I applied to the company I got into upper management by pretending to have lead a team far larger than I actually had, and acted like I knew a lot about the books, orders, claims, hiring, firing, etc. The truth was I had been a crew leader on a relatively small construction company of only 3 others, and didn't know any of the business admin, hiring or firing. The new job had me run a shop with 18 people under me, swamped in papers. It was a hard learning curve, but I kept and audio recorder and took notes diligently about what had to be done so I could figure out how to keep up. Eventually doing so rather well... a note to be said about that, don't out lie your potential, Jesus that was a lot to take on so fast. Great experience getting thrown to the sharks.
Thirty years ago, I worked as a steelworker at a small family owned company in Cleveland (120 employees). Someone asked the owner's son, who was the plant manager, what he thought about lying on applications. He said "If you're not smart enough to lie, you're not smart enough to work here." Nice.
Hi Joshua, this was the recent most helpful video that I found ever since I have been wondering around and beating myself up with the decision to either lie or be honest about the resume. It's been a very tough time for me for almost a year now, and no one has been able to help me in actuality, even my friends or not even the closest ones, thank you for the insights and the video, keep posting videos like this and I will be on the lookout for the videos that will help me make some important decisions about my life and/or my career.
@@JoshuaFluke1 People inside the matrix will defend the matrix. Also people who created the matrix will defend it. So basically, being honest doesn't have enough market share.
@@hendrixansel9750 if you want to connect with people, and help people, then you need to be able communicate with them. Saying they're in the matrix and all that - serves to make you look as if you wear a tin foil hat. I understand it's a topic you're passionate about, but in the grand scheme of things you're yelling alone in an echo chamber. Try to be understanding, then explain options and your perspective. Don't just say everyone is wrong but me. No one will ever listen that way.
This society punishes good people honesty is basically a crime in the west. You must lie to win cause society rewards dishonest people and degenerate people
I always go with the Richard Branson advice... Say yes to being able to do the job, land the job, then work your arse off to learn it quick enough that nobody is the wiser.
i’ve always wondered how these people have this job while being so clueless . now i know why. they lie . i’ve been way to honest i don’t even get calls back.
@@justinwan7199 he’s referring to the proprietary and/or classified information that some companies deal with. It makes job interviews EXTREMELY hard when you legally cannot go into detail about some of the bulletpoints on my resume and plenty other resumes like theirs as well
History has proven that very honest people usually meet unfortunate fates. Machiavelli has a valid point about honest and nice people. They end up being the sacrificial lamb being served at the banquet and being torn apart by beasts.
@@jellyfishi_ lmao the same prophet who lied that an angel spoke to him so he could marry his friend's prepubescent daughter and rape her. Yea that guy. Gtfoh.
Straight up lie on your resume, the worst that will happen is they won't hire you. Best case is they hire you. Most companies don't contact you for the previous job.
I lied about my resume like there’s no tomorrow, got the job (construction, I’ve never held a hammer before in my life), busted my ass off at work, sometimes didn’t even take breaks the whole day while everyone else did, learned the trade, one month later I was quitting cause I wanted more money so he gave me a 20% raise so I don’t quit and told me he really liked me . But if I was honest about my resume, they would’ve looked for someone else and I’d still be trying to find a minimum wage job cause I have no experience in anything work-wise. No regrets
@@marusdod3685 I'd guess they figured out, but I kept in mind what my friend told me which was "If the foremen like you, you won't get fired even if you're not so great, as long as you don't sit there and do nothing" and the foremen at the job site walked me through the process to show me how they do it cause I told them that's not exactly the construction I did, if I had any question I'd ask the guys, no one told the foremen or the employer that I didn't know what I was doing, I was nice to all the guys so they were, too. Most comments I got from the foremen were about the positive energy I have. They appreciated the hard work I put in even tho it was obvious I was a rookie, I eventually started working at the same speed as everyone else.
Yes! After a year of being out of school I’ve been trying to look for a job and no call backs. Now I added a position that’s similar to what I’ve done and just got two interviews within the three weeks I’ve been job searching again... Lies have gotten me all my jobs honestly.
I remember Joshua experienced near homelessness and he is trying to prevent people from being in the same situation by passing down his experience. Thanks Joshua.
@@heretolevitateme homelessness is quite easy to achieve Couple months without work will get you there very quick If you don't have friends or family that's your fate
@@heretolevitateme Living paycheck to paycheck or temp jobs and no full time. Struggling to pay rent n the rest of your bills. So yes you can be NEAR homeless.
@@heretolevitateme when you don't have a job and your resources are coming to end (let's say you need to pay rent in 2 weeks and have no money for that), you are not homeless yet but you near homelessness
While being interviewed the person asked my what my worst flaw is. I said, "I'm too honest" He replied, "That's not a very serious flaw" To which I responded: "Well I don't care what you think."
I just wanted to swing back through and say thank you sir for the video single-handedly landed me a job. I’ve been after for a while today who would’ve thought that all it took was a little fudging of my start and end dates on my résumé. Really appreciate what you do keep it up man.
So lie when it benefits you, tell half-truths when it benefits you, and tell the whole truth when it benefits you. Basically, be pragmatic. This is just a Machiavellian approach to work and business. Machiavelli wasn't wrong though.
Went through a period of time where I couldn't keep a job to save my life. I ended up combining all of the jobs on my resume and called myself an independent contractor. It has worked pretty well.
I came across your video last week, and a really good opportunity came my way. I applied for a manger position even though I’ve never been promoted to a supervisor, I’ve only had supervisor like task with no title or extra pay. So I put down supervisor for my current job. I lied on some parts, and thankfully all my references, came through and said good things about me, because I take pride in being a hard worker. I got the call today and got the job for the manager position. This video opened my eyes, you’re right. You can’t be honest on your resume and expect company’s to reward your honesty. I didn’t go college because I didn’t want to be in debt. I wanted to work my way up through hard work and proving those at the top wrong about needing a degree or sliding into a manger position through nepotism.
References are so damn easy to fake, I've had my sister (who got married and now has a different last name) and had her pretend to be my last employer. I also got a family friend to do the same. I said I worked for companies that went out business so they couldn't call and verify. A lot of what was on my resume was lies. and guess what? It worked. It got me interviews and got me jobs. If I got fired from a job I either didn't put it on my resume or lied about why I wasn't there anymore. Don't expect honesty in a system where honesty is not rewarded. You want a job? LIE LIE LIE and before anyone here is like "what of you get caught" guess what? Stupid people get caught. If you are smart you won't!
@@pepperdayjackpac4521 everything it was all bs and made up and it worked. I'll say it again DO NOT expect honesty in a system where honesty is not rewarded. Employers lie to applicants to.
"We don't count personal projects as experience!" ...buuut you're damned if you don't have a github full of personal projects that were written flawlessly.
Personal projects are the real deal if you think about it. It's stuff you've created yourself out of genuine love and interest. Employers can be crazy.
I'll be honest and say that I made up a false resume right before I finished my bootcamp. Within a month, I had gotten a job offered and went on to work 3 other jobs with better pay for each. All while this happened, none of my classmates got a job even after a year. Morale of the story, I'd say that lying in order to get your first job is key, once you've worked for some time in your first job, you'll no longer need to lie as you'll have actual experience to discuss.
Though I’ve found if you eventually need to switch careers you need to start lying all over again because your previous work experience doesn’t match what they want in the new career. So you need a completely new bogus resume and references and fake degree 😅
The reason why lying is so required in the job market of today is because the market is so oversaturated. Recruiters have 1000 resumes on their desk, but they can only hire one. They are forced to reject 999, and anything that can be construed as a negative will result in your resume being trashed. About ten years ago when I first started in this industry, interviews were completely different than how they are today, because the market wasn't so competitive. Also, in regards to the job gap situation, in my experience, the taboo of having gaps is going away. I've always been honest about my gaps (and I have many of them), I have never felt like it worked against me. What I really hate is when they ask you questions like "Tell me why you're excited about joining our team". I want to give an honest answer like "Because I'm unemployed and would like to not starve to death", but if you give an answer like that they WILL trash your resume. You instead have to give them the corporate cringe about how you really like the culture, etc blah blah if you want to stand a chance of being hired.
I wonder what goes on in the heads of people that write those kinds of questions. Specifically when they're writing that exact question. Like, they can't be expecting somebody to give the cringey type of answer and expecting that answer to be an honest one, right?
@@MediterraneanLivingWithLiel yeah. I have a job gap and a disability. The disability is the cause of the job gap. The irony is that it only affects my ability to do an interview and not my ability to do the job. So I'm like permanently stuck because people think autism is bad but don't discriminate in a proveable way.
" You instead have to give them the corporate cringe about how you really like the culture, etc blah blah if you want to stand a chance of being hired." That's an odd approach. I would think that when applying for a job you would focus more on the skills and work you would bring to the company rather than acting like someone who is there to chill and soak up the company culture.
Once I clued in that 98.5% of employers lie their asses off during the interviews, I stopped caring. I don't blatantly lie about anything important, but I'll imply things (such as play with job titles, etc) - job title play 1000% helped me get jobs and interviews.
I've been fluffing a resume since I started working. I have never been fired, or had any problems once hired. I am a believer that HR generally has no idea what makes a good candidate.
i was hired only 1 time by a company that saw a significant gap in my work history and i worked there 4 years doing great. With that 4 years plus on my resume it seems like i'm undesirable applying to the same company. Their loss i guess
People who study HR are usually people with bad marks who can't study anything else. Now they get to decide who gets hired, essentially the position of a manager. It sounds like a bad idea.
One of my old bosses worked for 25 years listing her bachelor's. It turns out she was one credit shy and never actually got her degree. She never knew, and no employers ever verified the degree. Only one job she applied to during her career checked her education. They notified her, and she then took a class online and was awarded her bachelor's over 20 years later
@@anthonyt1t5I mean to be fair, when I graduated they sent my degree to my grandparents address (it's what I kept listed as mine for tax reasons), guess they got it never told me. I found it 14 years after I graduated, unopened in a box in their attic.
@@obi-juantacobi8552 almost like the reward you got from that education you carried around and didnt enshrine on a $0.30 piece of paper…. credentialism is a cancer
My gap -- decades ago -- was military service. Returned from Vietnam after serving 3.5 years and worked my way through college. Then, applying for full-time jobs, recruiters were puzzled as to "why it took you so long" to apply for entry-level positions. They could not add 4 + 4. For them, I was "too old" for the position or I was the equivalent of a convicted felon for having served in (a) the military and (b) Vietnam. But recruiters could never do the math without my going over a blow-by-blow explanation of "why it took me so long" to complete college. Finally, a Korean-American gave me my first career job! Some things never change.
That's harsh and untrue tbh. They are often friendly and supportive people. The problem is that when they try to picture the ideal candidate, they throw in a lot of stuff they don't actually need "just in case", multiple degrees, 10 years experience for the exact same job etc. for say a janitor job.
With millions of immigrants, both legal and illegal coming into this country every year, and with H1-B visa workers and outsourcing, employers can afford to treat prospective and even current employees as less than human. We need to stop voting for politicians who let them get away with this stuff, but they're the ones filling their campaign coffers not us.
@@whade62000 yes and no. A lot of places hype up the requirements to weed out the people without confidence and who think they can't do the job. Because more often than not you may get someone who is actually more qualified than what you are looking for. So for the most part, if you think you can do it, apply anyways. What's the worst that happens, they say no?
A Resume is not a legal document. A Resume is not a confessional. A Resume is only a "sales brochure;" no more no less. Its purpose is to get you a job interview. Puffing is allowed. Blatant lying is not! I stopped placing dates on my Resume. I know HR hates it. If done correctly, then it doesn't look intentional. The video creator is correct: Most Employers never call your current job. His system can and does work.
The thing is 3rd party background checks can and will call up your current employer. They don't need to say this guy is applying to work for us. They can pretend to be from the bank doing a background check for a loan and they need the company to verify if the person is currently working there.
@@fc7307 True. I can't say what one real HR person tells another real HR person on the phone (Guild rules & silence.) But consider this: The popular Econ book "Freakonomics" shown the Real Estate salesmen had a code in their newspaper Ads that sold properties quicker and steered Salemen away from properties. I remember the Book mentioned code used words, e.g., "nice interior" or "solid foundation" which would get a certain reaction. Maybe a HR response like " would rehire this person" is only the tip of on the Iceberg? Ideas?
@@markwalter4881 meh, it's a numbers game. If they say no for whatever reason move on. There's literally hundreds of thousands of opportunities and I wouldn't be held up on just 1.
@@fc7307 i will fucking sue the shit out of the background check company if they told my current company that the check was for a loan with the bank. That will give red flags to my company that I am in financial distress when I am in fact not. bloody illegal
Person trying to get a job: 3 hours to make a resume 20 to 30 minutes to fill out an application Employer: sees one thing they don't like in 2 seconds and throws everything you did in the trash
Not only that, unlike years ago, you’re supposed to tailor your resume to each job. Then, you go into some online system, fill out everything, including your pet’s name and no one ever even knows you applied, because something in the system kicks it out or the job was published, but they already had someone in mind for the job, who’s working inside as a contractor already, that they have them fill out the application to be sent directly to HQ. Ask me how I know. Because I was that person inside. And it’s weird, too. I actually got contacted by a former VP I used to work for, who wanted to work there. I was glad to help as, I liked him but, he didn’t get the job and I was never told why. Probably had someone else in mind already.
You ever wonder if this is what destroys civilizations. I mean like going to the extreme of saying one thing and doing the complete opposite and expecting things to work out. I wonder if the Roman empire conducted themselves in similar matters before their fate.
I appreciate the honesty in this video. It’s refreshing to hear someone talk about the reality of job hunting. Makes me wonder if there's a better way to present my skills without stretching the truth.
You learned pretty early in my life that being 100% transparent when it comes to job searching can actually make you look bad, when actually you are a great employee. I lied a lot, a lot, and I don't regret. As you said, companies aren't 100% honest either.
Here's some useful advice. You shouldnt put all of your jobs on your resume. Sometimes employers look at having different fields not as, "Oh this person is well experienced in all sorts of things", but instead they see it as a lack of dedication and not being able to stick to one profession. Sometimes depending on where you're applying it doesn't hurt to make a few variations of your resume.
Definitely have different versions of your resume, especially as you gain more work experience. Many employers/hiring managers want resumes that are less than 3 pages.
@@lemonscentedgames3641 yeah, that's probably a better rule of thumb. I had a mentor ask me to detail every project I worked on over 10 years, and I ended up with a 6 page resume. A coworker saw it one day and told me to trim it way down.
One interviewer made a big deal about a job gap of two years and I explained to that person that I had saved up and gone back to college to finish my degree. He wanted me to write down every job that I had held for 25 years. I explained to him that many of those companies that I had worked for were now out of business.
My favorite was having to bring diploma copies and transcripts to a job interview. They made me jump through hoops for MONTHS, FBI background check and everything (and transcripts are not free!) ...of course I didn't get that job lmao btw it was 2016. I found out at the interview, it paid $15/hr. Lab technician position. I can't believe I cried over it.
@@doesnotFemputeyeah theres this job about 30mins away from me.. puts out applications i can apply to, i did multiple times and to different positions. I saw the pay on another website they post to. They ask me how much id like to make a year.. such bs question and it was exactly what they are paying. Then they never call me again. I been out of work for a year and imma just start lying on my applications. These companies are worthless anyways
I had an HR manager that would throw out resumes from people that had degrees from certain universities, university of phoenix was one of them, i always thought that made her a complete trash human, those people spent time and money on those degrees and were usually qualified with exp as well
I have taken your advice by never mentioning that I was unemployed for years, and now I'm gainfully working on a 6-month contract. It was such a relief to be working again. If I make through the six months, and get the job, I will be a happy man. I really thank you.
@@everydaysamething I just mentioned that I have worked on projects using the required skills for the role with other teams, but mention a company name that you have done the project, but don't say that you never an employee there.
Only way to get ahead. Honest ones are left behind doing the bottom work, but the ones who bullshit the company end up being in better positions, even though they aren't as loyal or hardworking to the company. I've had enough. I quit my job, gone casual for a few companies and am focusing on getting into cyber security. But one thing my previous job has taught me; never be a nice guy willing to waste your life for a company that doesn't give a fuck about you, and remember that every company is the same. Be ruthless, stay determined and don't ever let yourself ever settle for less. You deserve better
I have started identifying myself in filters as Gay or Non-Binary ect just to fit into the Quotas. Not too proud of it, but that's what you gotta do to get what you want to do right? I never have lied about my skills thus far tbh because I already have acquired an insane amount, but in truth, the reason why people who lie about this can get away with it is because skills barely matter in the work place at times, and any trained money could do it if they worked really hard for it. And those companies are all about the exploitation business anyway, so why give even enough of a shit about them to give your all for them anyway. Only thing you can't lie about are certifications as you can easily get sued for that.
You are taught to be honest and never lie, but in reality it takes 1 person to lie and they get ahead of you and thus begins the snowball affect of everyone needing to lie. I personally don't want to do it, but its the reality of the world and especially the job market.
Two week notice, am I too European to understand this? Here they can fire you only with a three month notice, in higher positions only with a six month notice. Of course they can tell you not to show up again, but have to pay you the salary anyways.
@@AlexanderWeixelbaumer not in the USA. Unless you're a contract employee (vast majority of Americans aren't) you can be fired at any time without any reason. Yet employers universally EXPECT at least a 2 week notice before quitting. If you fail to do this they'll refuse to let you use them as a reference. It's illegal for them to bad mouth you to other jobs, many companies have a "no reference" policy anyway due to liability. But I know from working with HR there are "off the record" and "work arounds" to these issues. Just like it's illegal for a company to ask your age, but not illegal to ask for your birthday.
@@laverdadbuscador While it is true you can be fired at any time for any reason, generally companies do give you some notice ahead of time that things may be coming to an end. I'm sure some places don't, such as Wall St. banks, but while these places generate a lot of noise, they're not really typical.
@@jyashin I've only had one company give a 2week notice and that's because it was a contract. Other than that, it's never happened. Everyone I've ever known my entire life has also never been given any kind of notice. I've lived in NY, WA, and OR. So perhaps your state is full of nicer people, but in the states I work that isn't common practice.
@@laverdadbuscador Maybe, I'm in MD. Two gave me a two week notice, one actually gave me a full 6 months (which I knew is extremely rare). I only knew one person that didn't get prior notice, and it was because there was some sort of non-compete possibility with his own company.
The statement I go by is this: "If people use dumb criteria to check your value and how fitting you are for a job, then it's only ethical to lie to bypass such criteria."
The problem is companies think they have all the power and treat the job applicants as such. I have experienced a manager after the first interview, just ghosting me. There's no decency to even tell the person, unfortunatley, you didn't make it to the next stage. This is why the whole quiet movement has begun is because companies treat their workers as mindless robots that don't have feelings.
I applied for a Night Fill position at a local supermarket. Got an interview, was honest, they said they wanted to offer me a role, but I didn't have my email on my resume, so they requested it for the onboarding stuff. 3 weeks and 2 follow-ups later, nothing. The actual hiring manager came back when i followed up the 3rd and final time with a phone call. She said 15 people got put on, but she doesn't know who. So i wasted essentially a month for a job that i was told i had, but was never *actually* given. May argue the fact that 'if you didnt hear back you didnt get it'. They called me 4 hours after interview to offer said role. If i wasn't getting it, why do you want my details for onboarding? My job gap grows wider lmao
I was a manager at 2 restaurants and a grocery store for aver 15 years in total. NOT ONCE did I ever get a call from someone who was asking if a person was working there. Also, NOT ONCE did anyone from an unemployment agency ever call to verify if someone had applied for a job there. So fake those unemployment claims and lie on the resume. Its ok. I guarantee that the person who is checking you out for a job has at least one lie on their resume as well.
LOL because who actually cares where a cook or a cashier used to work at wtf, you absolute baboon this is more for any jobs that WOULD call your previous employer
It all depends on the position and company you apply for. I'd say over 70% of the places and positions you apply to wont check, but some will. For example, non entry level jobs and goverment jobs will most likely check to see if you worked x places.
I watched this video, changed my resume just a little bit. I didn't change the job responsibilities at all just the duration. I got 3 calls for 100% remote jobs before 12pm! One offered $48hr, the other $50/hr. I was so inclined to say my number first which was HALF that. You can really cut your potential salary in half just by talking too much.
TL;DR - Play the game.
Seems like all life is, is a game bro. A game of cat and mouse.
@@stylo816 Now you're getting it.
joshua can I have your resume template of google? to the bans I cant pay you via credit card and I really need a job abroad also If we can Have a talk it would be really good
Nice muscles.
@@sidehustletips what muscles
- Job gap = Bad CV.
- Bad CV = Can't get hired.
- Can't get hired = Job Gap.
thats the viscious cycle...im going to lie from now on
Infinity loop!!
Freelance. If I can do it, anyone can. Find one good freelance job -- ideally from a *small* business owner, do a good job, use that as a reference, and get the independent contractor tax docs if they ask for it.
One good freelance reference can take up several months of a gap.
@@general_electrics freelance what ? what kind of work ?
True. A job gap = a job gap
A system that doesn't reward honest behavior shouldn't expect honest conduct.
I fucking love this quote
Even better wording: a system that punishes honest behavior should expect dishonest behavior
Luka Magic This is society as a whole these days.
Your profile pic brings me back to 2006
Great qoute.
A friend put it this way “job interviews are just lying contests, you lie about how qualified you are, they lie about how great the job is.”
Wow thanks for all the likes! We have our own channel now Two Stupid Guys Trade Stocks if you want to hear more of our wisdom and bad jokes!
100% Just lie
those days actually the job offers lie more than even most creative liar could even imagine. I actually miss work market when it was ruled by employers ... at least you had chance to see thier true face ... now they are hiding everything and try to appear better than they are. Back then ... they said there are 100 more people outside waiting to take this job.
It is really not good and in fact nowadays people jump from job to job more than before not because they can't keep it but mostly because of lies from companies. Once people learn work is not what they were promised to move on ... onto next company that lies even more hahah.
Well good for me I learn from mistakes and I cannot be fooled anymore easily. Better late than never :)
so the reason ive never had a job is because im unwilling to lie?
@@GarlicGrinder9 at one job interview I had where the employer hated my previous employers reputation to the point that all of my perfect responses to there questions resulted in them ignoring the answer. In the above example I eventually said you ignored every answer I gave this interview I might as well have lied about the company name I would have gotten a fair interview.
Not in my industry. You lie it shows. Your friend sounds like an idiot.
It’s crazy how people can control your opportunity for a job regardless of credentials. I dated a chick that worked in HR and would go over resumes from home when I would be at her house and she would pass up more than qualified people for ridiculous and dumb personal reasons. People put years and finances into their careers just to be judged by someone who shouldn’t be in that position to do so.
I also have a close friend in HR, I argued so much with her due to stupid HR way of doing things
I feel that. I used to work as an HR officer for a media agency and I am absolutely proud to have hired one of the best hard working and talented people. They seemingly didn't "fit the bill" for what was to look for but they knocked it out of the park when it came to delivery. There was always a chance and a risk when taking on people that didn't necessarily have the qualifications but had the "ability" to fulfill the job. Sadly, had to leave because I was moving to a different country.
HR clowns are genuine scum half the time.
They judge engineers by shit they dont even remotely know about.
What ends up happening si that these retards hire litteral NPC's and robots
Most HR is people who have a degree, and pleasant people and absolutely useless for anything else.
Someone there (HR) does most of the paperwork but they NEVER are involved in the hiring process.
The HR hiring people often have not a f*cking clue what the job is they're hiring for, and they look for "keywords".
Often they let software search for those keywords. No keyword, or the wrong one, your resume hits the electronic trashcan.
As for interviewing? How can you evaluate someone for a job, when you have no inkling what that job is or does?
And worst part is we’re conditioned to believe this is the life
I lied to every interview when I said I really want this job and I'm passionate about your company.
You really wanted that job to pay the bills etc, so you didn't lie 🤐
Well if the company is prestigious it is great since it will help your resume and finding a new job plus negotiating like saying "I worked at the best company in the field so I am basically bringing myself down for you guys so I expect some perks otherwise fuck you cuz I am an elite"
Or at least I hope it will when the time comes
I always have to say it through clenched jaws too. I'm just sitting there like "this is just gonna be another corporate smelling trash bin that lasts 2 months again", but YES I LOVE YOUR COMPANY
@@imhaddanitattaxx4172 LMAO that's great
Oldest lie in the book. We all need a paycheck to survive.
As an 18 year old who just finished school, I already have 25 years of experience in both marketing and nursing, as well as a PhD in economics and a doctoral on oral health
You learned from beyond the womb! The greatest genius of our time 😜
Underrated comment
Yours is nothing compared to me being a 26 years old with 40 years of experience in half of the country industries as well as having a PhD in business and master degree in engineering as well as 3 gold medals at the Olympics.
That's fucking awesome. I'm rewriting my resume as well.
Guess you're a good fit for all those positions that require 10 years of experience in 2 years old tech
"Mind letting me contact your previous employers?"
Sure, as long as you let me contact your previous employees to see why they quit.
oh my god YES!!!!!
Very good point...
Stealing this
bruh, game changer
I don't like comments on RUclips.. but I had to like this one
Person: *Tells the truth*
Employer: You're lying.
Person: *Lies*
Employer: I believe it.
So true👍... Unfortunately 🙄
Yea pretty much. I flew through an ice storm and accumulated 3in of ice on the wings and got the flight done. My airline didn't believe it. But I tell them the story about running across the airport to save a passenger's bag (Which I never did) and all of a sudden they believe me.
@@TrainerAQ with the bag… I’m like “sucks to be you”. 😊
It's what they wanna hear. Ofc theyll bite
Yup, its a reality that companies are idiots
Out of college, everyone that I know of that lied, got jobs immediately. The honest ones never got jobs and it wasn’t until they lied that they got a job lol. This stuff is real.
That was me. Mr. Honest.
I tried at 18 applying to every retail and fast food place with zero work history, not one job offer.
Tried again a year later and lied as if the last year was spent working at McDonald’s, fucking immediate job interview 🤦🏻♂️
These employers will forget where u said you worked the same day u told them to be honest. Just lie, it’s okay.
@@premejon8300 that's the thing I hate, jobs won't hire you do to lack of experience but like how do they expect you to get experience if nobody will give you a chance AND the fact that it's some retail/fast food act this way is crazy
@@JR-lq5eh its not there responsibility to make sure that you get experiance.
The truth will keep you broke. Lmfsao
A friend of mine told me that he lied on all of his resumes back in the day. When they asked if he was familiar with computers, coding, etc he said "Yes" when it came time to do the job he would say stuff like "Oh you know the OS I used is different, or the equipment I used was different at my last job. Could you show me how to work it?" It always worked and he learned how to manage data and do other things very well. One of the biggest factors is confidence. If you ask to be shown, and get scared when all the information is given, or think "I can't do this" you will probably fail. Also a lot of good jobs require common sense rather than education. (Just throwing that out there)
I wish your friend would make a video talking about his experience. That sounds awesome if you can actually pretend you know how to code and then get a job and learn from them!
It kinda reminds me of how some jobs will give you a 2 week bootcamp to understand their programs/how they run things. I would think that a 2 week bootcamp would be just enough to understand something like coding/management to be fair! It's not like you need to know math or actual scripts, just search it up for the most part lol!
@Sabizos that honestly sounds concerning lol
You know your last statement actually applies to most jobs.
If the job is venerable, they really just want to hire competent people with a healthy mindset.
The problems come from funneling your applicants into arbitrary restrictions and pretending that how they react to those is reflective of all future behavior.
@@SolDizZo yep
This is irrelevant but Hiei profile pic huh?
You're cultured, I SEE.
it's disgusting. my dad always taught me that integrity was the #1 principle to abide by in life. In job hunting that is _THE WORST_ principle to follow. But it's really hard to break out of--I have a lot of guilt when I lie.
Coming from a family of honest people, seems literally impossible. I understand man, but the world we have to face now 😒
lying so easy. gotta get used to it
Integrity as an employee is a relative thing.
I've never needed to lie to get a job. What are you talking about? You should advocate for your experience. You should put a positive spin on things, I guess? But why would you need to lie?
@@TheMisterGuyHow's that Nepotism going?
If I were 100% honest at the start of my career, I would still be at the helpdesk instead of being a senior product manager. Play the game.
Platinum Pineapple - Streaming video now / CS background too. I used to be a PM for the second popular + app owned by the mouse company. I’m at a new place but won’t divulge on YT. If you have a LI, reply with that and I can give more details on that platform.
Could you say how you lied. I'd love to know how you did.
Playing your own game and expecting your employer not to just makes u the senior hypocrite manager
@Kry Kry - Some clarification. You can’t outright lie, that makes no sense. If you can’t back it up, don’t put it on your resume. The goal is to get past recruiters and filters. Once you have the interview, they will give an offer if you know what you’re talking about, and mesh with the team. You can make up the title on the resume, but always use your official title when filling out forms for the official background check.
@Kry Kry Firstly which agency are you talking about?
Recruitment agencies never fact check your experience they would simply accept what you give and forward it to companies, which I am hoping they do cause usually they are only in it for the money.
Secondly, let me ask you also this - which companies search and fact check or verify? If they look at your resume and see the experience they need they would hire you immediately. That is just leaving the countless biases that also goes with recruiting.
It’s mad how we’re all taught to be good and honest from young age and life just untwists those rules and beliefs throughout the years
Being taught to be honest at all costs was one of their lies homie.
Being honest for a large part of my life only made me gullible and caused me to suffer. It wasn't till I started playing the game too that things started to go more in my favor. Now I know it's more about who you chose to lie to and who you are completely honest to. If I told a thief I have $100 in my wallet, he will mug me. But if I lie to him and I'm confident enough to do it, I can walk away from the situation with my cash. True story. Already has happened to me 3 times. And the one time I was "honest" and told him I had 10c in my pocket, I got mugged.
@@TrainerAQ lmao you got Robbed for 10 cents? if I was a thief I wouldn't even lay a figure on you if you only had a dime
You should always teach your kids good habits like being good and honest but also teach them people can lie and why they shouldn't lie in many cases.
Something I've started noticing in the workforce and I'm just 3 years in. Honesty is viewed as weakness when you admit fault and they pounce on you. Yet when you're honest and politely state that someone else may have messed up, you're somehow dodging accountability and being immature or offensive. But people will be quick to blame you when it saves their own ass. Exactly why I don't consider friendships with people I work closely with. Except maybe 1 or 2 whose character shines above all the rest of the fake trash in the ethos.
Lying on my resume got me a $12 pay increase, and I’m still holding that job six years later. Often enough, they expect you to enter knowing something you’ll learn quickly at that place of employment. Learn quick, and no one knows
Being honest and truthful will only hurt you on your résumé. I’ve seen applications for a job get turned down for stupid petty or illegitimate reasons.
May i ask what you do for work? Im curious what kinda positions that lying is okie dokie for
@@PamdaBear1 any, life isn’t hard. Work isn’t hard, few jobs require a truly special individual. I’m a shift lead Welder. Two of our best guys lied about being certified. I have welded for five years and lied about having shift lead experience. I just had to say I had experience and the job was mine with the $12 jump. Doing the exact thing I always was, simply telling others to do the same things I’m doing.
@@PamdaBear1surgeon probably... Say you've done it and quickly learn it on the job
@PamdaBear1 generally office positions are simple if you're a quick learner. Don't blatantly lie but definitely oversell your skills if you want an office job. Otherwise you'll never get into the office/corporate environment.
If you ever have a gap in your resume, just say you were taking care of a loved one that is no longer with us. They will drop any further questioning after that and if they do then they’re not worth working for.
Nice one! I just put Uber driving hahaha
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That didn't work for me.
Honestly I think that it's screwing me over more than anything
That is clever
"They say honesty is the best policy; therefore, by elimination, dishonesty is still the second best policy" - George Carlin.
so lie in proportion? I guess...
@@akashverma4280 basically yes. you just bend the truth where it helps, you hide everything that doesn't need to be known and you over glorify all your good aspects. the only thing you don't lie about is stuff that they can realistically debunk, like a skill that you don't actually have (or can't learn in time).
lol this is twisted
That just sounds smart but is actually stupid. If there are two options, and one is the opposite of the other, then the second best option is also the worst. The best policy is actually dishonesty, clearly.
@@SuperYtc1 I get what you're saying, but liars are easily some of the most affluent people on the planet. This isn't a righteous world.
Lying on your resume is borderline a necessity.
My whole resume is a lie lol
My resume looks so empty :(
Well, for me if they don't ask just don't tell them. If you can't lie, just "double speak" or do not tell them. It's easy, I've been there. I managed to secure some job offer but due to salary expectation i refuse until i got i a better offer.
That’s why people suffer from imposter syndrome
@@andyn6053 my whole life is a lie, hah
"Honesty is the best policy," is one of the worst lies we're taught as children.
And we're taught it so that the liars above us can take easier advantage of us.
No, that’s not why you’re taught it. Honesty is the best policy. Any corruption you allow into your life breeds more. It will crush you, drain you of life and cause unforeseeable complications and hardships.
Your role applying for jobs is to see through the listed “requirements” for what they are - dreamed up qualifications. Every job requires learning the technical aspects, the specific methodology used by organization and navigating the social structure. The requirements listed are literally not what they actually need in an applicant. You are not just your resume no more than the employer and job position are the company bio or the job listing.
honesty is the best policy when it comes to peer to peer, companys tho Lies make the money grow like rice :D
@@sittingstill3578if dishonesty is so bad, and you are taught how incredibly damaging it is, then why are the people teaching you that not honest?
Honesty for a company that could replace you in a day? No, you shouldn’t
Wrong, teaching kids there’s only one way to get a solution in life is one of the worst lies we’re taught as children
It really is an awful reality. I was instantly denied for 20+ jobs at WALMART because I was honest. Companies want to hire liars.
No shit. You’re gonna have to lie to customers so the company doesn’t get sued cuz you don’t know how to lie. Its a legit reason not to hire you. Innapropriate Honesty is also a sign of stupidity and a childish mentality.
True story, a guy at a wal mart in Michigan put on his resume he was in the military, 82 airborne and officer. He was hired and quickly began stealing thousands in electronics as a manager. Had he not been greedy he might had never been caught. Once they checked his background they found his resume was all bull 💩
no
It's because they have 1000's of applications just like yours you didn't make your piece of paper stand out enough. If that means stretching the truth with a few little lies sprinkled in-between so be it. Gotta get good at bsing Edit: Honesty doesn't pay the bills
@@FantomMisfitif you applying to walmart you got nothing to stand out with tf you smoking 😂😂😂
My dad always told me that many people in the job industry fall under the following:
Tell people the truth and they'll call you a liar, tell them a lie and they'll believe you.
Yep.
@Joshua_Fluke...discuss deez nuts you scammer
That's why being hot makes life easy
@Trilo-Kh2DI also know perfect erotic role-play
Not so accurate, its more like tell them harsh truths and they wont like you, but tell them flattering lies and they'll love you.
Been a programmer for 20+ years. I don't disagree with anything you say here. You do anything you have to to get to the interview, resumes are just to get past the HR flunkies and to the tech people. If you really don't know your stuff the tech people will figure it out pretty quick in your interview.
I will tell you when I've been the most honest in interviews is when firms have wanted me the most. At one of my last ones, one of the first questions was "Why do you want to work here?" My answer, "I don't know that I do, that's why I'm at this interview to decide if I want to work here." I think the interviewer was so taken aback that I wasn't kissing his ass and doing corporate speak, that we actually had a really good discussion with him selling me on the company for the rest of the interview.
hurtin11 Ahh, reverse psychology. It has gotten me hired more than once.
Depends on the job
I was asked the "Why do you want to work here?" question before. I answered, "Your recruiters keep contacting me about this job so I finally agreed to see why they wanted me so badly." I did not get the job because the salary was too low and it went unfilled for more than two years. I knew that because another recruiter called me over a year later about the same job.
That’s such an awesome response!
Lot of employers will see that snarky bs tho
This highlights everything I hate about job applications/interviews.
What is their goal? - to find a honest, hard-working employee.
What do they do? - Disregard anyone who tells the honest truth, and hires a bunch of liars instead.
companies with HR deserve what they reap.
Facts
Because they think the liars are more qualified because they lied.
@@joefish6091 facts, fuck HR, biggest moneysink known to man.
IM 31, In my long experience of working on jobs, what I have learned is that HR is ugly and unhuman department, so don't be ashamed to lie to them they clearly deserve it, if you tell them the truth they will turn it into something negative and use it against you.
You’re right, I was in HR and for this fact I quit my field. It’s not that HRs are inhumane, the profit makers make us do all these kinds of things. After terminating all honest n deserving people we ourselves get fired. Companies lie big time too, they manipulate words for their own interest. Never trust anyone. so yes no shame in lying.
They're literally called human RESOURCE, we are to them nothing but just dispensable resources. And their only duty is to protect the company, not us.
Dude you are the most pragmatic, no bs, no fluff, let's get real type of person I've ever seen :)) . God bless you!
2021: _"We see you have a job gap for like all of 2020."_
_Yes, I see a gap in your brain._
Well at least CORONA can EASILY explain a job gap nowadays!
@First name Last name u REALLY SERIOUSLY expect ppl to work DURING A PANDEMIC!?!?!?!?!?!? When some jobs like small businesses and some restaurants have closed!?!?!? If u SERIOUSLY believe that ppl should RISK their LIVES for a dollar then you're the REASON WHY THE PANDEMIC IS CONTINUING TO SPREAD!!!!!!!!😡😩👎
@First name Last name this is probably the dumbest comment I’ve seen in a min
@First name Last name it doesn't matter if ZERO PEOPLE died! If there is even a slight chance of death people shouldn't be going PERIOD! Other countries like denmark and Canada gave their citizens monthly checks or held their paychecks untill it was safe enough to return to work. Like it sad before it's people who think like u the reason why the virus continues to spread 😠
@First name Last name why don't u get it? JUST 👏 BECAUSE 👏 YOU 👏 ARE 👏 DOING 👏 GOOD 👏 DOESN'T 👏 MEAN 👏 EVERYONE 👏 ELSE 👏 IS! Of course our govnt needs to be shut down so the virus doesn't 👏 continue 👏 to 👏 spread! The governmen never took the virus too seriously anyway
Tighter more controlled safety measures needed to be in place so that there can be faster vaccine rollout, contact tracing more testing so that way we can track exactly where the virus is coming from and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. But since our government never fully shut down the way IT SHOULD HAVE the virus skyrocketed. But as long as MY POCKETS are filled what's 200 thousand deaths right!? I mean what's a MILLION DEAD PEOPLE!? As long as I (ME) has what I need it doesn't matter how many die. (Obvious sarcasm)
This is legit fabulous. I'm a recruitment manager at a recruitment firm, I see the bullshit that hiring managers do behind people's backs. The harsh truth is that you're a piece of paper (your resume, obviously) to hiring managers. The key is to fill your resume with "half-truths," over-exaggerate your skills a bit but be able to competently explain them during the interviews.
Job-hopping is generally a smart financial decision (realistically, hiring teams expect you to stay with employers for at least a year, unfortunately), always be searching for a higher-paying job while employed (obviously, don't quit a job until you have another one lined up).
Be a politician in the 9-5 world, deliver mouth service when necessary, and do just enough to get by.
What do you do when you are a contract worker that can't seem to get a job for the 1+ years that you said employers look for? I seem to get work for, on average, 3 months and just be let go for the remainder of the year only to do the same the next year.
@@Denastus From my experience: Contract roles are no issue. I haven't heard complaints from hiring managers about candidates having a lot of contracts in their work history.
If a hiring manager sees permanent roles lasting less than one year, they often complain about a candidate's work history being "spotty." A "spotty" work history isn't that big of a deal as long as it's from fully completed contract roles, but unfortunately hiring managers do prefer to see long tenures in permanent roles.
@@Denastussay you worked the whole year as a contractor. They called you when you were needed but remain employed throughout. That's how professionals in every industry treat it. You are what you do, not the time you spent doing it.
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this a fucking badass comment
Definitely don’t lie on your resume for government, high paying, or information-sensitive security jobs. They tend to go thoroughly into your background. But yeah judging job gaps is bullshit.
What’s “high paying”?
@@MichiganMan4Ever If you're going to the CFO maybe don't lie about taking accounting courses
I work for the government. They made me provide college transcripts + bring my diploma into the interview. They are also one of the only employers that ever actually called references and previous employers. Most private companies don't even bother.
I have access to the universities database in Ontario Canada. For $6000 I will give you a degree in anything you want with a GPA that puts you in the top 15% of your class. My best customers want University of Waterloo degrees in software engineering. It is a ticket to big time cash.
@@905JimRaynor Stop lying.
I spent nine months unemployed after I got my masters in computer science. I got plenty of interviews for the first couple of months, but after that, things just sort of went to a screeching halt. At one point I literally had a recommendation from a guy that was at a company for years. He thought it was a sure thing. When they finally got back to me, they asked me what I’ve been doing for the past X months. Needless to say, honesty did not get me the job.
Its hilarious because HR npc's are the biggest leeches of a company possible.
They do fucking nothing 90% of the time and are just there to soak up wages.
If Companies were to utterly BAN anybody with HR experience, we would be living in a litteral economic BOOM.
I told the truth, I was taking long leave for cancer treatment and rest. They never called back. Every single one of them.
Horrible.
You should mail back the company address that you have been discrimanted against on a health basis. A lawyer would probably be up for this too and you have good chances in winning.
this makes me furious
Assoluto Cosmico exactly. thats why you lie.
Dougebags
Takeaway: Your resume is like a coloring book, but you can color on it like you're 5. As long as the right colors are in the right spots, it doesn't matter if you're "out of bounds" because most people, despite what they tell you, are colorblind.
Most people aren't colorblind though, but I get it lol
@Noah I was looking at a study and it was like 8% of people. But yeah I guess lol. I try to be too literal randomly.
@@Gandhi_Physique don't
@@Alex-by4zv How my brain works. That's like telling a stressed person "don't be stressed." lol
I can see how "try" could give a different connotation than I intended though.
@@Gandhi_Physique worry not, it's alright.
My parents never teached me stuff like this. I was always too honest about everything and people always took advantage of me when I had a job. You are really teaching me how to stand up for myself. Mad respect bro!
Same here. I feel horrible about lying on a resume. I really do. I don't know if I could do it, but......hmm.
If there's anything I can say, it's "Be honest where it matters most, but if there's a game going on, play it."
As long as that game doesn't involve the lives or wellbeing of others. If it does, don't play it at all.
@@MeatEatingVegan777 I am struggling hard with that man. It’s just felt so awful and out of my control.
@@GerardMenvussa Yes totally agree.
@@johannsebastianbach3411 You brought up a really good point. I remember a couple of years ago when I was very interested in seduction and the social dynamics between men and women. There was this guy who made youtube content. I think it was "RSD Luke". Or something like that. He was one of those guys who (ironically) enough told very honestly about how he lied to companies to get a job, so he could pay the bills. Without any clue what the position was about. Eventually he applied the same tactics so he could hook-up with girls. Everything was based on lies. In this day and age I think lying is indeed a good quality in the business life, same as your ex girlfriend. Relationship wise I don't think it would be a good tactic.
As someone who is honest TO A FAULT, this hit hard.
It’s sad but this is so so so so so true.
your honesty is weakness just being honest :)
True
@@AlanakaBlackCatNot entirely, with people you know you can trust that are close to you it's not bad.
At some point it's good to be honest not only for yourself but with others in order to be more happy on your life.
I would say be dishonest in a work environment.
@@AlbBookeroi
I didn't even know people lied on their resumes. It's pretty wild how the CEOs lie more than we do but we're here to a higher standard.
Yeah ive lied too many times on my resume. Give my friends numbers as references, extend employment dates etc. Idgaf. Just make sure you can actually do the job.
M Raees boss shit, do what u gotta do💯🤷🏽♂️
M Raees lol, not being able to do the job isn’t a huge bar to employment in many places 🤣😂
How long did you extend your employment?
@@zeezoo6174 as much as 2.5 years. Do whatever you gotta do just to win
@@raees2473 never got checked?
My integrity is important. I try to always be honest... to people. NOT to corporations. Corporations aren't people. It's okay to lie to them to make ends meet.
Only time you ever need to lie to something or someone
Unfortunately corporations ARE people. Legally. I understood what you meant tho and I agree.
@@MrArtVein i read that and thought the same.
@@gqprince2 yeah, but the thing is even tough they are people, they dont give a fk about you. Its about what you bring to the company to make them more money. The human side is completely ignored even tough they pretend the whole office culture bullsh!t, etc.
Correct.
Lied on my resume to get a job and ended up a supervisor 9 months later. They cared way more about my personality, work ethic, and molding me than what I already knew.
What kind of job n What'd u say?
I work in I.T. My boss recently hired someone who came from construction and had no I.T. experience whatsoever. The reason he hired him because he is a hard worker, been in his job for the last 10 years (laid off) and has a great personality. I've met this new hire last week, he's cool as heck. Glad he joined our team.
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@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. day whatever you want but just be able to make it seem true in interviews
Haven't seen this level of sincerity in a long while and you are right, life doesn't give you what you deserve, it gives you what you demand of it. You just earned a new subscriber. Kudos
When I'm honest, they think I'm lying. When I lie, they think it's the truth.
Proverbs 17:4 "Evil people listen to evil ideas, and liars listen to lies."
Better Call Saul
A backwards world👀
It sounds like you should thrive in the corporate world.
So it really is true after all. We are living in end times. This is sad.
I fudged the shit out of my resume for my current job. They checked and found that I did in fact have a huge gap that couldn't be accounted for. When they asked why I didn't tell them, I said "I was tired of companies punishing me for being unlucky." They still gave me the job. Doubt that would ever work again. lol
actually, if anyone ever calls you out on a lie, the best course of action IS to come clean. The person is throwing you a bone by confronting you about the dishonesty rather than disregarding you, and coming clean will actually instill greater trust as it shows that you are willing to admit you mistakes.
You did the right thing though and through. Lie at first because that's the game. But if an employer actually confronts the lie with truth, then they are more likely an honest company and deserves honesty at that point.
I think that guilt tripped them a little so it worked !
@@Vizaru nah wtf. Bullshit more. They wont care. Neither should you
@@manuelpacheco9790 Right it all boils down to if they actually like you or not. I've seen the differences how employees get treated simply based on how much the employee is liked.
I have a solid reason of depression ,anxiety n when my mom was sick n I was sick ,
A disturbing realization that comes with adulthood is that most people can't be trusted with the truth.
Michael Church this really broke me in my early/late 20s...
Really? What if they were under oath?
@@pauljordan4452 What's an oath though? Swearing on the bible? Might work if you're of that specific religion. 'I promise i'm telling the truth' - said every liar ever.
So true. Can't count how many times I've been screwed with utmost malice just for leveling with someone. Only close friends are entitled to your honesty. That's not even a Machiavellian or edgy opinion.
My God ain't that the truth
Fresh out the military I was denied a security job because the HR lady didn't like how I presented myself. Despite having one hell of a resume for experience, professionalism, clean shaven/haircut ect, And when that happened I realized, it doesn't matter if you are more than qualified for a job or not. If one person doesn't like something they will just throw it out and then make up some excuse to their boss as to why they didn't hire. She later got fired ahh, sweet justice.
This has happens alot, if they dont like you face they don't progress with you, this is why you never send a photo with your resume.
In my previous work, I heard the HR choosing to fail an applicant for having gifted mamary glands.
Tf is wrong with that company.
@@wookieeMan06 here in Germany apparently you don't get a job without a picture which annoys the f out of me because discrimination is still a thing lol
@@iwrona6258 Damn, that sucks. Can get away with anything.
@@mjewan9920 gifted mammary glands? what? who puts that on their resume in the first place? or how does that even pop up and become relevant?
There are some things you just don't tell people, as how do you organically bring up having gifted mammary glands? I don't blame the HR person for failing the applicant as just saying that would weird anyone out
Imagine going into a company, and grilling the company on why they have an open position.
Are you a small company just now expanding? Will I have to worry about the company going under while I'm working here? Is there a problem with management? Did the last person leave because of a bad manager? Or is it because the last person costed too much? Will I have to worry about getting my pay cut in the future? Did the last person find a better position somewhere else? Should I just apply elsewhere if that's the case? Is it the work environment? If I work here will you work me like a dog? Were the other employees the problem? Do you have a problem with picking bad candidates for positions?
God knows they would be just as insulted.
What an amazing take.
@@bartlemington2003 What's the first in his comment?
EXACTLY~! Ask: why should I work for you people, and why do you have "Now Hiring" signs on all your vehicles? Are you that good or are you that bad? Do tell me please.
I might have to make a habit of applying for jobs that I don't want, just so I can grill the interviewer for kicks.
I do ask them questions about themselves. How much work do u have etc
Thank you for being a real person. It seems like nearly every youtuber that makes videos about their career in programming always acts like a golden child. I seriously appreciate how you level with us and show us the reality.
It seems most of the others are elitist
"I got an internship with [massive corrupt failure of a bank infamous for destroying thousands of peoples lives]"
I needed this. I've been in and out of survival jobs for years. Any jobs that I seemed qualified for were so stinking competitive It felt I had no chance. I've always valued truth, but in an industry so fickle, It truly is shooting yourself in the foot to be transparent. I need to learn to play the game better. Wish me luck xoxo
We live in a F#@ked up world, dont we? At least you know the game better.
What always bugged me, you have to give two week notice when you quit but when the employer no longer wants you they usually fire you on the day of.
No one cares about the working class. It’s vile
That's in the US. Try doing that in France the employee will drag you into court and likely win. You can fire someone on the spot, that's your right. But if you do it without advance notice and/or without a good reason you'll have to at least pay some sort of compensation to the employee. And yes of course there are thousands of employees who had it coming and then it sucks that you have to follow a bunch of procedures to fire them. But in Rome, do as the Romans do.
@Magic Man at least there was some fairness there. I hope your NDA wasn't strong enough to prevent you from summarising what kind of job you held to your next employer. Cause F the NDAs that prevent one from even mentioning what skills they used at/learned/Improved upon during that period at X incorporated.
You technically don't "have to" you don't owe them anything, if you get another higher paying job, then leave. I've done it twice and I do not care or regret anything. When a job starts acting funny I act accordingly. Most I've ever given was one week. They can't force you to give two weeks.
@Magic Man That's pretty standard when you're dealing with "secret" information. I honestly preferred that -- you know the second you declare, you will be out the door. No awkward 2 weeks fumbling around about shit you don't care about anymore.
The whole resume and job application system is messed up. At the end of the day I think it's just designed so nobody really qualifies then they can show they tried to hire someone to satisfy union policies, then they can outsource the job. Same reason they expect 10 years of experience in a technology that has not even been out that long yet. When I was quitting an IT job and my job posting went out to replace me, I read it and realized I did not even qualify for my own job.
Red Squirrel good to know that unrealistic qualifications wasn’t just something I thought I was up against.....
Hhhhj I'm a network manager here in the uk I work in highs schools sounds familiar.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣lololol
You’re 100% right. Some job recruiters on Twitter admitted to doing this. It’s because they’re gonna hire a friend or family member instead. The job system is a joke
@@ahmedhashmi3584 Facts, especially in the IT field
one of my college professors told me that the best way to get any job is to stretch the truth pretty far. anything you don't know you can learn quickly and under pressure you'll learn it even quicker. Nobody knows what they will do or how, in any job, and the job will teach you no matter what the situation. Get the job first, learn the job as they teach it, and move forward.
I think this is true a lot of the time but it can go wrong too. Not too long ago I took a job that most get degrees for without any degrees or related experience myself. I actually was getting it down, but my coworkers were incredibly impatient when I would make inevitable mistakes or not immediately know how to do something.
Bottom line, this idea works if you get a job with friendly and forgiving people, but this can also piss certain people off quickly too.
@@shamfyre Almost every boss I've had has lied so hard on their resume to get their position and it's so frustrating because often internal candidates get overlooked for promotion but then they hire someone from the outside who has the luxury of being able to exaggerate.
@NatashaEstrada at the end of the day, I would say that selling yourself is a skill in itself. You can be the most honest person in the world and under sell yourself but ultimately that is your own fault.
I am not saying you have to straight up lie to be a competitive job applicant btw, but exaggerating a detail here or omitting something there is fair game imo.
@@shamfyre The problem is if you have a role that is not in any way shape or forme related to sales then having to sell yourself is exhausting.
I'm trying to be more dishonest but it is anxiety-inducing. It's more annoying having to lift the load of people who don't know what the eff they are going. THAT I'm not doing anymore.
You're gonna have to live and die by your own lies.
@@shamfyre I've also elaborate that internal candidates don't have the luxury of lying about their last job since everyone knows what your currently doing. So that's a little unfair.
There should be some kind of compensating scale. Say an external candidate has to be 1.3x better to accommodate for white lies.
I do so love how society forces you to become evil, breaking your principals and morals until you are a tool fit to be used.
I want to point out two things:
1. This is why the economy is crippled.
2. CEO's are so greedy for the immediate money and blind to the lower-level operations, that they fail to take the necessary steps to make truely sustainable money.
1. People love blaming the working class...we're lazy, we don't know what we're doing - we're gaming the 'system' when in fact, the people that are passionate, loyal, more than capable, talented, and can excel the company into profits 10x fold typically end up getting passed up by someone who matched the words on the job description to their resume. You wanna talk about the economy. I'll put it in basic terms. More people taken advantage of + less passionate enthusiastic workers getting hired = less pay for employees, and less money for employers.
2. So much more often than not, we see people hiring for jobs that they don't understand the full day-to-day operations and average-talent requirement for, it's crazy. Seriously think about how much money in wasted talent companies spend every year because they not only failed to assess the job duties appropriately, but they also hired someone for work that's way above their ability anyway.
*Capitalism* working as _intended_ 💀☠💀
I beg to differ, the ability to be evil makes a harmless man peaceful. You can lie and deceive for jobs but be a Saint out of work life
@@Spico_ It wouldnt be better in any other system, its an issue with human nature
Morality doesn't pay the bills.
My Dad lied on a resume. After the first interview, he studied for the position. he became a cyber security expert in about two weeks.
For context, this was during the early 2000's. He was an ET in the Navy prior, which used to be a hard job to get. He also had six kids to feed. He started his position making around 100K a year, he was making 250K a year before he quit his job to move to the Midwest.
That’s what I’m talking about!
Lol the thing is a motivated person can learn a LOT in 100 hours online.
@@patty109109 exactly!!
@@patty109109sure but for me digesting nd praticing take some time. I cant memorise every thing like a robot 😔
@@patty109109 You just resumed what I did in the best Job I had. I liked it and absorbed the information very quickly...
I've lied on my CV and I feel zero remorse. Some are born into rich and comfy families that have contacts and allow them to do unpaid internships. Why is that fair? So yeah, I lied and said I had the required experience when I didn't. As someone on here said: Companies lie about how great the job is and wouldn't hesitate to fire you the second it becomes economically viable to do so. So yeah, lie if you need to and don't take it too seriously. It's just a job.
Weeping Angel , why not bust your ass like everyone else? I didn’t come from money or have anything in my name. I didn’t lie on my resume.
@@JediOfTheRepublic because busting your ass gets you nowhere. And as I've mentioned, why should companies get to lie about how great the job is, low-ball you in the salary negotiation, and fire you the moment it becomes economically viable to do so, and yet we the employees have to be good little slaves that do everything by the book. Are you able to answer this question? Let me guess you'l say something like "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!" Well they might pay our wages but we give them our time. And life's too short to slave for a company that lies through its' teeth.
@@JediOfTheRepublic Because busting your ass is stupid. There are too many people who happily waste their time slaving away for shitty wages and destroying their bodies and minds in the process. When you're old and tired with not much to your name other than some money you've saved up, the last thing you'd want to think about when you look back on your life is how you spent most of your living days working for other people.
@@weepingangel6805 "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!"
I got a pretty similar answer from a colleague when we were talking about how our current employer constantly tries to screw over his workers.
Back in the olden days of masters and servants, when servants lived in the basement and served basically 24/7, there was a MASSIVE social machinery around making the servants good at serving and never questioning their lot in life, for example a whole genre of literature devoted to telling the message that ”God looks with favor upon those that serve”, ”be honest, have integrity!”, ”do not envy” and so on. Those are not values created to make people happy, they're created by the masters to make their subjects good little servants that work hard for others benefit. It's kind of fucked up when people who are basically slaves themselves defend those values. Like dude, you're brainwashed, and it is pathetic. It's a little more complicated than that, and I do think society needs honesty to function, but.
My Ex would put companies that went out of business so, they couldn’t call and verify. It worked and was genius lol.
Same as my friend too
Thanks a lot for this tip xD
How do you find companies that went out of business?
HR: All the companies this person worked for went out of business... what if she makes US go out of business? haha
Genius af
As someone whose always been honest even as a child this is difficult to accept but if the company doesn’t care about me why should I care about them 😓
Find something you care about and make that your passion. Build it like your life depends on it. Working 'jobs' felt and was like dying. My whole life changed when I started researching alternative work options. I realized I could sell some things online and see how that went. I started with a few items and now I haven't had a 'real' job in years. But it took me years to get to that place. Chear up, take a deep breath and treat yourself to a full night sleep. Life really does get better if you let it. Sometimes we just need to get out of our own way.
Same i have it hard lying to people. But i guess i need to practice as it seems to be an important skill.
Exactly. I have to remember this 🥲 im such a bad liar and i cant keep up with some of them.
No company cares about you, they care about money, and will lay you off if it comes down to them making more profits doing so. You need to get used to being a pawn for EVERY company you work at. Your direct co-workers might care about you (and even then 90% of the time they wont), but the big guys in suits dont give a damn.
"Past performance is no guarantee of future results" is something everyone understands in business except when it comes to people. People looking for jobs are judged entirely by their past.
HR departments are full of idiots
I've lied on my resume many times. Got me 100k salary for three years once.
Literally got me my six figure job. More like half truths vs lying
@@fantasyfan998 which skill? Oh sure sure no problem.
bill murray which skill did you sell at the interview?
@@junaids.9314 It was a few technical questions I was familiar with but not as advanced as they wanted. A few RUclips videos later and I was golden though.
@@junaids.9314 when I applied to the company I got into upper management by pretending to have lead a team far larger than I actually had, and acted like I knew a lot about the books, orders, claims, hiring, firing, etc. The truth was I had been a crew leader on a relatively small construction company of only 3 others, and didn't know any of the business admin, hiring or firing. The new job had me run a shop with 18 people under me, swamped in papers. It was a hard learning curve, but I kept and audio recorder and took notes diligently about what had to be done so I could figure out how to keep up. Eventually doing so rather well... a note to be said about that, don't out lie your potential, Jesus that was a lot to take on so fast. Great experience getting thrown to the sharks.
Thirty years ago, I worked as a steelworker at a small family owned company in Cleveland (120 employees). Someone asked the owner's son, who was the plant manager, what he thought about lying on applications. He said "If you're not smart enough to lie, you're not smart enough to work here." Nice.
@@jellyfishi_ lying is dishonest
@@joefish6091 thank you for this new revelation of information
@@joefish6091 ok boomer
@@joefish6091 Not a single honest billionaire. Dishonesty pays.
I feel extremely uncomfortable about lying on my resume. However.............it seems that it works.....hmm.
Hi Joshua, this was the recent most helpful video that I found ever since I have been wondering around and beating myself up with the decision to either lie or be honest about the resume. It's been a very tough time for me for almost a year now, and no one has been able to help me in actuality, even my friends or not even the closest ones, thank you for the insights and the video, keep posting videos like this and I will be on the lookout for the videos that will help me make some important decisions about my life and/or my career.
This is why I like josh, being a honest is like a crime.
Imagine wanting to be a good person but get screwed over for it.
@@JoshuaFluke1 People inside the matrix will defend the matrix. Also people who created the matrix will defend it. So basically, being honest doesn't have enough market share.
@@hendrixansel9750 if you want to connect with people, and help people, then you need to be able communicate with them. Saying they're in the matrix and all that - serves to make you look as if you wear a tin foil hat. I understand it's a topic you're passionate about, but in the grand scheme of things you're yelling alone in an echo chamber. Try to be understanding, then explain options and your perspective. Don't just say everyone is wrong but me. No one will ever listen that way.
@@JoshuaFluke1 wise words
This society punishes good people honesty is basically a crime in the west. You must lie to win cause society rewards dishonest people and degenerate people
I always go with the Richard Branson advice... Say yes to being able to do the job, land the job, then work your arse off to learn it quick enough that nobody is the wiser.
Yep...and this is most likely how I was unlucky enough to get a new, inept MICRO-manager.
This video might just change my life. Ive been too honest for too long.
No one feels sorry for you when you can't put food on the table. You have to do what you need to do and make it happen
Me too!
Embellishments are ok....just not lying...😉
yup about to start lying. I know I can do these jobs but the honesty is killing me.
Sock Outlet u aint kidding. these honesty shit isnt helping me
i’ve always wondered how these people have this job while being so clueless . now i know why. they lie . i’ve been way to honest i don’t even get calls back.
I've worked for over 30 years and for several different companies. And what you mentioned in your video is exactly the way the cookie crumbles.
Marvin-Kevin Juan wdym
@@justinwan7199 he’s referring to the proprietary and/or classified information that some companies deal with. It makes job interviews EXTREMELY hard when you legally cannot go into detail about some of the bulletpoints on my resume and plenty other resumes like theirs as well
Lied that I had 5 years of welding experience. Took a weld test and passed. Joined a union.
Good on you man!
Wish it was that easy
Jesus
It helps if you are white. This is the racial caste system that must be cast asunder.
@AKSEL AFRICANO Pfft, you just confirmed what I stated. If you are white, being qualified for a job is optional. :)
History has proven that very honest people usually meet unfortunate fates. Machiavelli has a valid point about honest and nice people. They end up being the sacrificial lamb being served at the banquet and being torn apart by beasts.
@@jellyfishi_ fictional characters dont count... lol especially one that was a pedo...
Everyone but Keanu Reeves
@Boxed Water keep telling your self that and that man married a 12 year old.
@@jellyfishi_ lmao the same prophet who lied that an angel spoke to him so he could marry his friend's prepubescent daughter and rape her. Yea that guy. Gtfoh.
Good to know I’m fodder for beasts.
Straight up lie on your resume, the worst that will happen is they won't hire you. Best case is they hire you. Most companies don't contact you for the previous job.
I lied about my resume like there’s no tomorrow, got the job (construction, I’ve never held a hammer before in my life), busted my ass off at work, sometimes didn’t even take breaks the whole day while everyone else did, learned the trade, one month later I was quitting cause I wanted more money so he gave me a 20% raise so I don’t quit and told me he really liked me . But if I was honest about my resume, they would’ve looked for someone else and I’d still be trying to find a minimum wage job cause I have no experience in anything work-wise.
No regrets
how did they not find out?
@@marusdod3685 I'd guess they figured out, but I kept in mind what my friend told me which was "If the foremen like you, you won't get fired even if you're not so great, as long as you don't sit there and do nothing" and the foremen at the job site walked me through the process to show me how they do it cause I told them that's not exactly the construction I did, if I had any question I'd ask the guys, no one told the foremen or the employer that I didn't know what I was doing, I was nice to all the guys so they were, too. Most comments I got from the foremen were about the positive energy I have. They appreciated the hard work I put in even tho it was obvious I was a rookie, I eventually started working at the same speed as everyone else.
@@RaphaelNano nice
Yes! After a year of being out of school I’ve been trying to look for a job and no call backs. Now I added a position that’s similar to what I’ve done and just got two interviews within the three weeks I’ve been job searching again... Lies have gotten me all my jobs honestly.
Raphael Nano boss shit
I remember Joshua experienced near homelessness and he is trying to prevent people from being in the same situation by passing down his experience. Thanks Joshua.
You're either homeless or you're not, lol. Sounds like you're describing his experiences the way he does on his resume. :P
@@heretolevitateme homelessness is quite easy to achieve
Couple months without work will get you there very quick
If you don't have friends or family that's your fate
@@heretolevitateme Living paycheck to paycheck or temp jobs and no full time. Struggling to pay rent n the rest of your bills. So yes you can be NEAR homeless.
@@heretolevitateme when you don't have a job and your resources are coming to end (let's say you need to pay rent in 2 weeks and have no money for that), you are not homeless yet but you near homelessness
Dude I feel for you man, i used to have this exact problem, being too honest. It’s horrible how you get blasted for doing the “right thing”
While being interviewed the person asked my what my worst flaw is.
I said, "I'm too honest"
He replied, "That's not a very serious flaw"
To which I responded: "Well I don't care what you think."
@@GregMoress 💀
@@GregMoress you get the job?
@@basicloner I would also like to know.
@@GregMoress “you’re hired”
I just wanted to swing back through and say thank you sir for the video single-handedly landed me a job. I’ve been after for a while today who would’ve thought that all it took was a little fudging of my start and end dates on my résumé. Really appreciate what you do keep it up man.
So lie when it benefits you, tell half-truths when it benefits you, and tell the whole truth when it benefits you. Basically, be pragmatic. This is just a Machiavellian approach to work and business. Machiavelli wasn't wrong though.
Obviously don't do shit that's going to put you in jail and get you sued or any of that, just get a conversation and explain everything.
@@JoshuaFluke1 haha that goes without saying. But yeah I get it. Great vid.
Wow gold
This is the most perfect response, thank you for the perspective.
This is why Tupac named himself Makaveli after Machiavelli in his later years, because he understood how this society works.
What these videos taught me is that HR is pointless and garbage.
Jackyl hr is garbage.
Why can’t companies just remove and eliminate the HR department?
HR is never on your side
@@qjtvaddict HR is there to protect the company from its employees.
nope, worse, they are a barrier, an obsatcle (thats how much of an obstacle they are) they make the world go backwards.
Went through a period of time where I couldn't keep a job to save my life. I ended up combining all of the jobs on my resume and called myself an independent contractor. It has worked pretty well.
Miles Coleman hope u have a steady job now!
I hope this isn’t your real name and you aren’t findable on LinkedIn lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bruh don't use your real name on RUclips lol
@@Kanal7Indonesia Why not lol
I came across your video last week, and a really good opportunity came my way. I applied for a manger position even though I’ve never been promoted to a supervisor, I’ve only had supervisor like task with no title or extra pay. So I put down supervisor for my current job.
I lied on some parts, and thankfully all my references, came through and said good things about me, because I take pride in being a hard worker. I got the call today and got the job for the manager position.
This video opened my eyes, you’re right. You can’t be honest on your resume and expect company’s to reward your honesty. I didn’t go college because I didn’t want to be in debt. I wanted to work my way up through hard work and proving those at the top wrong about needing a degree or sliding into a manger position through nepotism.
References are so damn easy to fake, I've had my sister (who got married and now has a different last name) and had her pretend to be my last employer. I also got a family friend to do the same. I said I worked for companies that went out business so they couldn't call and verify. A lot of what was on my resume was lies. and guess what? It worked. It got me interviews and got me jobs. If I got fired from a job I either didn't put it on my resume or lied about why I wasn't there anymore. Don't expect honesty in a system where honesty is not rewarded. You want a job? LIE LIE LIE and before anyone here is like "what of you get caught" guess what? Stupid people get caught. If you are smart you won't!
What did ur sister say when the person asked about what the job was?
yeah, what did ur sister and friend say exactly?
@@pepperdayjackpac4521 a bunch of bullshit, and it got me the job.
@@yokiryuchan7655 was it just employment date and salary?
@@pepperdayjackpac4521 everything it was all bs and made up and it worked. I'll say it again DO NOT expect honesty in a system where honesty is not rewarded. Employers lie to applicants to.
"We don't count personal projects as experience!"
...buuut you're damned if you don't have a github full of personal projects that were written flawlessly.
Personal projects are the real deal if you think about it. It's stuff you've created yourself out of genuine love and interest. Employers can be crazy.
Dear programming peers out there: the market is cruel. This isn't about tech anymore it's about acting skills. Finesse it till you make it.
Very True.
Hard pill to swallow in a field full of antisocial autists 😂
I'll be honest and say that I made up a false resume right before I finished my bootcamp. Within a month, I had gotten a job offered and went on to work 3 other jobs with better pay for each. All while this happened, none of my classmates got a job even after a year. Morale of the story, I'd say that lying in order to get your first job is key, once you've worked for some time in your first job, you'll no longer need to lie as you'll have actual experience to discuss.
Though I’ve found if you eventually need to switch careers you need to start lying all over again because your previous work experience doesn’t match what they want in the new career. So you need a completely new bogus resume and references and fake degree 😅
Yes, changing the job description little bit and title would work for this
Never lie about your education though
The reason why lying is so required in the job market of today is because the market is so oversaturated. Recruiters have 1000 resumes on their desk, but they can only hire one. They are forced to reject 999, and anything that can be construed as a negative will result in your resume being trashed. About ten years ago when I first started in this industry, interviews were completely different than how they are today, because the market wasn't so competitive.
Also, in regards to the job gap situation, in my experience, the taboo of having gaps is going away. I've always been honest about my gaps (and I have many of them), I have never felt like it worked against me. What I really hate is when they ask you questions like "Tell me why you're excited about joining our team". I want to give an honest answer like "Because I'm unemployed and would like to not starve to death", but if you give an answer like that they WILL trash your resume. You instead have to give them the corporate cringe about how you really like the culture, etc blah blah if you want to stand a chance of being hired.
This is the truth. If companies need you, they don't care if you have job gaps or gapped teeth. The key is to leverage your skills
I wonder what goes on in the heads of people that write those kinds of questions. Specifically when they're writing that exact question. Like, they can't be expecting somebody to give the cringey type of answer and expecting that answer to be an honest one, right?
@@MediterraneanLivingWithLiel yeah. I have a job gap and a disability. The disability is the cause of the job gap. The irony is that it only affects my ability to do an interview and not my ability to do the job.
So I'm like permanently stuck because people think autism is bad but don't discriminate in a proveable way.
Alex Talbot sane here man I struggle with autism too and it sucks when I do interview. Sometimes I got to lie to get a job :
" You instead have to give them the corporate cringe about how you really like the culture, etc blah blah if you want to stand a chance of being hired."
That's an odd approach. I would think that when applying for a job you would focus more on the skills and work you would bring to the company rather than acting like someone who is there to chill and soak up the company culture.
Once I clued in that 98.5% of employers lie their asses off during the interviews, I stopped caring. I don't blatantly lie about anything important, but I'll imply things (such as play with job titles, etc) - job title play 1000% helped me get jobs and interviews.
Wow
@Dovah-chan noted now I have something to lie about for my next job then 😇
I've been fluffing a resume since I started working. I have never been fired, or had any problems once hired. I am a believer that HR generally has no idea what makes a good candidate.
Shimmy Shai i think an honest system would hurt more people than it would help
i was hired only 1 time by a company that saw a significant gap in my work history and i worked there 4 years doing great. With that 4 years plus on my resume it seems like i'm undesirable applying to the same company. Their loss i guess
People who study HR are usually people with bad marks who can't study anything else. Now they get to decide who gets hired, essentially the position of a manager. It sounds like a bad idea.
Jordon, but you have your full name here.
Many times even interviewers don't have any idea what makes a good candidate.
Something I learned from the military was, You don't need to be perfect, just perfect on paper
One of my old bosses worked for 25 years listing her bachelor's. It turns out she was one credit shy and never actually got her degree. She never knew, and no employers ever verified the degree. Only one job she applied to during her career checked her education. They notified her, and she then took a class online and was awarded her bachelor's over 20 years later
Wow... She had to have known about it if she never got her degree sent to her though Lol
@@anthonyt1t5 seriously lmfao
@@anthonyt1t5I mean to be fair, when I graduated they sent my degree to my grandparents address (it's what I kept listed as mine for tax reasons), guess they got it never told me. I found it 14 years after I graduated, unopened in a box in their attic.
@@obi-juantacobi8552 almost like the reward you got from that education you carried around and didnt enshrine on a $0.30 piece of paper…. credentialism is a cancer
@@anthonyt1t5some people don’t realize they’re shy a couple credit because they’re still allowed to walk
My gap -- decades ago -- was military service. Returned from Vietnam after serving 3.5 years and worked my way through college. Then, applying for full-time jobs, recruiters were puzzled as to "why it took you so long" to apply for entry-level positions. They could not add 4 + 4. For them, I was "too old" for the position or I was the equivalent of a convicted felon for having served in (a) the military and (b) Vietnam. But recruiters could never do the math without my going over a blow-by-blow explanation of "why it took me so long" to complete college. Finally, a Korean-American gave me my first career job! Some things never change.
Remember: everyone is replaceable. Employers see you only as a tool/resource. So forget about thinking that you're human to them.
That's harsh and untrue tbh. They are often friendly and supportive people.
The problem is that when they try to picture the ideal candidate, they throw in a lot of stuff they don't actually need "just in case", multiple degrees, 10 years experience for the exact same job etc. for say a janitor job.
There are billions of us so its not like they're going to hurting for bodies any time soon.
With millions of immigrants, both legal and illegal coming into this country every year, and with H1-B visa workers and outsourcing, employers can afford to treat prospective and even current employees as less than human. We need to stop voting for politicians who let them get away with this stuff, but they're the ones filling their campaign coffers not us.
@@whade62000 yes and no. A lot of places hype up the requirements to weed out the people without confidence and who think they can't do the job. Because more often than not you may get someone who is actually more qualified than what you are looking for. So for the most part, if you think you can do it, apply anyways. What's the worst that happens, they say no?
@@whade62000 thats so naive
A Resume is not a legal document. A Resume is not a confessional. A Resume is only a "sales brochure;" no more no less. Its purpose is to get you a job interview. Puffing is allowed. Blatant lying is not! I stopped placing dates on my Resume. I know HR hates it. If done correctly, then it doesn't look intentional. The video creator is correct: Most Employers never call your current job. His system can and does work.
The thing is 3rd party background checks can and will call up your current employer. They don't need to say this guy is applying to work for us. They can pretend to be from the bank doing a background check for a loan and they need the company to verify if the person is currently working there.
@@fc7307 True. I can't say what one real HR person tells another real HR person on the phone (Guild rules & silence.) But consider this: The popular Econ book "Freakonomics" shown the Real Estate salesmen had a code in their newspaper Ads that sold properties quicker and steered Salemen away from properties. I remember the Book mentioned code used words, e.g., "nice interior" or "solid foundation" which would get a certain reaction. Maybe a HR response like " would rehire this person" is only the tip of on the Iceberg? Ideas?
@@markwalter4881 meh, it's a numbers game. If they say no for whatever reason move on. There's literally hundreds of thousands of opportunities and I wouldn't be held up on just 1.
@@fc7307 i will fucking sue the shit out of the background check company if they told my current company that the check was for a loan with the bank. That will give red flags to my company that I am in financial distress when I am in fact not. bloody illegal
@@infini.tesimo funny how women and jobs operate under the same concept
Person trying to get a job:
3 hours to make a resume
20 to 30 minutes to fill out an application
Employer:
sees one thing they don't like in
2 seconds and throws everything you did in the trash
Story of my life
I know.
Not only that, unlike years ago, you’re supposed to tailor your resume to each job. Then, you go into some online system, fill out everything, including your pet’s name and no one ever even knows you applied, because something in the system kicks it out or the job was published, but they already had someone in mind for the job, who’s working inside as a contractor already, that they have them fill out the application to be sent directly to HQ. Ask me how I know. Because I was that person inside.
And it’s weird, too. I actually got contacted by a former VP I used to work for, who wanted to work there. I was glad to help as, I liked him but, he didn’t get the job and I was never told why. Probably had someone else in mind already.
Also every employer: why is this job the perfect job for you that you’ve been dreaming of your whole life?
@@brandonjordahl2283 because I need to pay bills and buy sh*t to compensate for looking at you. That’s fcking why.😂
This lying game is what breaks every single part of our souls and changes us.
So true...
and make you go homeless if you dont play the game
Try to replace whatever bad you may cause with good
You ever wonder if this is what destroys civilizations. I mean like going to the extreme of saying one thing and doing the complete opposite and expecting things to work out. I wonder if the Roman empire conducted themselves in similar matters before their fate.
Maybe not lie but exaggerate by alot. At the end of the day HR is SHIT and everyone knows it
I appreciate the honesty in this video. It’s refreshing to hear someone talk about the reality of job hunting. Makes me wonder if there's a better way to present my skills without stretching the truth.
You learned pretty early in my life that being 100% transparent when it comes to job searching can actually make you look bad, when actually you are a great employee. I lied a lot, a lot, and I don't regret. As you said, companies aren't 100% honest either.
Here's some useful advice. You shouldnt put all of your jobs on your resume. Sometimes employers look at having different fields not as, "Oh this person is well experienced in all sorts of things", but instead they see it as a lack of dedication and not being able to stick to one profession. Sometimes depending on where you're applying it doesn't hurt to make a few variations of your resume.
Definitely have different versions of your resume, especially as you gain more work experience.
Many employers/hiring managers want resumes that are less than 3 pages.
@@r7calvinur resume should never be more than 2 pages and if you cant reach 2 pages it has to be one.
@@lemonscentedgames3641 yeah, that's probably a better rule of thumb.
I had a mentor ask me to detail every project I worked on over 10 years, and I ended up with a 6 page resume. A coworker saw it one day and told me to trim it way down.
@@r7calvinthere’s no reason to have a resume past 2 pages. Unless ur in one of the CV professions.
One interviewer made a big deal about a job gap of two years and I explained to that person that I had saved up and gone back to college to finish my degree. He wanted me to write down every job that I had held for 25 years. I explained to him that many of those companies that I had worked for were now out of business.
My favorite was having to bring diploma copies and transcripts to a job interview. They made me jump through hoops for MONTHS, FBI background check and everything (and transcripts are not free!) ...of course I didn't get that job lmao
btw it was 2016. I found out at the interview, it paid $15/hr. Lab technician position. I can't believe I cried over it.
@@doesnotFemputeyeah theres this job about 30mins away from me.. puts out applications i can apply to, i did multiple times and to different positions. I saw the pay on another website they post to. They ask me how much id like to make a year.. such bs question and it was exactly what they are paying. Then they never call me again. I been out of work for a year and imma just start lying on my applications. These companies are worthless anyways
I would tell them I'm not interested unless it was something with a security clearance. 25 year work history is ridiculous.
Jeepers thats horrible
@@chadjensensterI barely remember the last ten years
I had an HR manager that would throw out resumes from people that had degrees from certain universities, university of phoenix was one of them, i always thought that made her a complete trash human, those people spent time and money on those degrees and were usually qualified with exp as well
Isn't UoP a degree mill? Either way very shitty of her.
I have taken your advice by never mentioning that I was unemployed for years, and now I'm gainfully working on a 6-month contract. It was such a relief to be working again. If I make through the six months, and get the job, I will be a happy man. I really thank you.
Don’t stop looking, have a fallback plan
2 months left on the contract. What does it look like?
Start applying to other places, always have a backup!
@@everydaysamething I just mentioned that I have worked on projects using the required skills for the role with other teams, but mention a company name that you have done the project, but don't say that you never an employee there.
Any update?
Only way to get ahead. Honest ones are left behind doing the bottom work, but the ones who bullshit the company end up being in better positions, even though they aren't as loyal or hardworking to the company. I've had enough. I quit my job, gone casual for a few companies and am focusing on getting into cyber security.
But one thing my previous job has taught me; never be a nice guy willing to waste your life for a company that doesn't give a fuck about you, and remember that every company is the same. Be ruthless, stay determined and don't ever let yourself ever settle for less. You deserve better
I have started identifying myself in filters as Gay or Non-Binary ect just to fit into the Quotas. Not too proud of it, but that's what you gotta do to get what you want to do right? I never have lied about my skills thus far tbh because I already have acquired an insane amount, but in truth, the reason why people who lie about this can get away with it is because skills barely matter in the work place at times, and any trained money could do it if they worked really hard for it. And those companies are all about the exploitation business anyway, so why give even enough of a shit about them to give your all for them anyway.
Only thing you can't lie about are certifications as you can easily get sued for that.
You are taught to be honest and never lie, but in reality it takes 1 person to lie and they get ahead of you and thus begins the snowball affect of everyone needing to lie.
I personally don't want to do it, but its the reality of the world and especially the job market.
Manager: *you need to give a 2wk notice*
Manager: *you're fired, go home now*
Two week notice, am I too European to understand this? Here they can fire you only with a three month notice, in higher positions only with a six month notice. Of course they can tell you not to show up again, but have to pay you the salary anyways.
@@AlexanderWeixelbaumer not in the USA. Unless you're a contract employee (vast majority of Americans aren't) you can be fired at any time without any reason.
Yet employers universally EXPECT at least a 2 week notice before quitting. If you fail to do this they'll refuse to let you use them as a reference. It's illegal for them to bad mouth you to other jobs, many companies have a "no reference" policy anyway due to liability. But I know from working with HR there are "off the record" and "work arounds" to these issues. Just like it's illegal for a company to ask your age, but not illegal to ask for your birthday.
@@laverdadbuscador While it is true you can be fired at any time for any reason, generally companies do give you some notice ahead of time that things may be coming to an end. I'm sure some places don't, such as Wall St. banks, but while these places generate a lot of noise, they're not really typical.
@@jyashin I've only had one company give a 2week notice and that's because it was a contract. Other than that, it's never happened. Everyone I've ever known my entire life has also never been given any kind of notice.
I've lived in NY, WA, and OR. So perhaps your state is full of nicer people, but in the states I work that isn't common practice.
@@laverdadbuscador Maybe, I'm in MD. Two gave me a two week notice, one actually gave me a full 6 months (which I knew is extremely rare). I only knew one person that didn't get prior notice, and it was because there was some sort of non-compete possibility with his own company.
Job gap
Employer: Let’s continue that trend.
For real. LOL 🤣🤣🤣
i got a good laugh out of this one LOL
But we need you to have experience, but we can't give you the opportunity to get experience, so go ... go out and get experience! See ya never!
The statement I go by is this:
"If people use dumb criteria to check your value and how fitting you are for a job, then it's only ethical to lie to bypass such criteria."
The problem is companies think they have all the power and treat the job applicants as such. I have experienced a manager after the first interview, just ghosting me. There's no decency to even tell the person, unfortunatley, you didn't make it to the next stage. This is why the whole quiet movement has begun is because companies treat their workers as mindless robots that don't have feelings.
I like to call those people back and ask about the position/interview. Decency and Courtesy have left the job search field.
I applied for a Night Fill position at a local supermarket. Got an interview, was honest, they said they wanted to offer me a role, but I didn't have my email on my resume, so they requested it for the onboarding stuff.
3 weeks and 2 follow-ups later, nothing.
The actual hiring manager came back when i followed up the 3rd and final time with a phone call. She said 15 people got put on, but she doesn't know who.
So i wasted essentially a month for a job that i was told i had, but was never *actually* given.
May argue the fact that 'if you didnt hear back you didnt get it'. They called me 4 hours after interview to offer said role. If i wasn't getting it, why do you want my details for onboarding?
My job gap grows wider lmao
I was a manager at 2 restaurants and a grocery store for aver 15 years in total. NOT ONCE did I ever get a call from someone who was asking if a person was working there. Also, NOT ONCE did anyone from an unemployment agency ever call to verify if someone had applied for a job there.
So fake those unemployment claims and lie on the resume. Its ok. I guarantee that the person who is checking you out for a job has at least one lie on their resume as well.
LOL because who actually cares where a cook or a cashier used to work at wtf, you absolute baboon this is more for any jobs that WOULD call your previous employer
You shouldn't lie to the government. They do actually investigate sometimes.
It all depends on the position and company you apply for. I'd say over 70% of the places and positions you apply to wont check, but some will. For example, non entry level jobs and goverment jobs will most likely check to see if you worked x places.
I watched this video, changed my resume just a little bit. I didn't change the job responsibilities at all just the duration. I got 3 calls for 100% remote jobs before 12pm! One offered $48hr, the other $50/hr. I was so inclined to say my number first which was HALF that. You can really cut your potential salary in half just by talking too much.
Well done that's the way to do it! xx
Do you mind sharing what jobs these were so I can apply? I just had a baby and am desperately looking for remote work.
what is the remote jobs tho? quit gate keeping PLEZZZ
Lying ass
😂😂 nice joke