It is great to see this one again. Its ridiculous that the old channel disappeard. There is so damn much good info, and its good to know it wasnt lost.
Man, this is really good stuff. I really appreciate how you review this with good terminology and explanations to get to the end goal. For me, understanding the procedural components and how it works helps me to concentrate and focus on practicing those specific techniques I want to improve. Anyway, subbed and thanks for giving what is basically college grade content out for free!
beautiful voice, even when doing covers you sound natural as yourself, super cool how we can get inspiration from great singers and still be free to be ourselves.
Hi! Wonderful video! Great explanation!! Would make a video about his time in Audioslave, just asking, since you said you don't like that period of his career. I would appreciate to see you explain that, I think it was his peak and you have one the best explaining i have ever seen!
Thanks. Yes, I have another video comparing somewhere - I would say Louder than Love was his peak and it's all downhill from there, but hey, I'm old. K
Always a good day when you upload singing videos, man! Twang, absolutely! Made a change in my speaking voice as well, was pleasantly surprised to hear you say that too. Singing with my own instrument, another great tip. Uploaded Breaking Benjamin recently and it sounds like me, not Benjamin. Check it out! Great video, keep them coming!
Thanks for this insightful video! I was just wonder though. In your video "How to sing like Layne Staley", you talk about how you create distortion by twanging even more than normal and how that vibrates the bones in the face and disrupts the resonance there. But isn't it the false chords that produce that distortion?
Sure, there's engagement of the false folds - however, the grit you hear when I'm doing the Layne thing isn't actually the sound of the false folds pulsing, it's the decay of resonance and how the air is interrupted - this basically overdrives some of the frequencies. Someone like David Draiman is using false folds for the most part, however Layne is using resonance - and Cornell used both from about Badmotorfinger onwards. Fry screaming and pulsing the false folds just isn't going to get you there if you're going for more of this classic rock style grit - but if you're doing modern screamo (yuck) then sure, that's the example people will give you. There's a certain narrative that becomes the mainstream on RUclips, but always with either natural singers who can just 'do it' without every having to find it, or, people who can't actually sing/sing well. The reality of what you're going for is often different to the convention you're going to find on regular channels. K
@@FoundationVocalStudio Ah, I see. Think I get it now! I'm definitely trying to go for a more classic rock style grit, like Layne and Chris. Not so much modern screamo (that yuck gave me a good chuckle, lol). Though it would be cool to be able to sing like Devin Townsend as well. I think he sounds great. Thanks for answering me! Have a great day, afternoon, night, whatever.
I was wondering where you went as well. Welcome back. Question: You write a song. You've got the lyrics there. Likely you've already sung through it many times. Do you then take an analytical pass considering vowels, placement, breathing (if necessary) to create specific sounds? Or does it just bake itself into your process at this point? I play guitar pretty well and I would liken my current predicament as a singer to the point where, as a guitarist, I learned the cage system, chord scales, scales and a little harmony. I've got this instrument (voice) but the way I can use it is really very haphazard. LOL. There's songs I can now sing some how after a year or so of watching you and this other youtuber that doesn't annoy the EFF out of me. I finally understood what "connecting" means. I accidently discovered what head voice actually is and volume is sort of an illusion. ALL that is to say I can't imagine someone writing a bunch of lyrics and then going back and finding the "best way to sing a vowel". Is this something that people that know what they're doing do? Or, is it just a thing awesome singers do naturally? I'm realizing know this may be a stupid question. Thanks for your instruction. I really missed it. (looking at you youtube :|)
One more thing! The thing that led me to head voice was a video that you did (can't recall the title) where you were talking about working with students and talking about their fears, basically you were asking "what happens if you let yourself go falsetto?" BOOM! I tried it. Some how, not sure how. I found where that soft falsetto turns into head voice. I think I was singing along to Sting or Jellyfish. Is was very subtle at first. Broke a lot. Now I can sing those songs over and over. Pretty cool. Thanks, man.
Depends on the person really - I consider vowels when I write a song. It doesn't really change pronunciation of the vowel per se, so really you can sing whatever the hell you want; however, there's a WAY to sing whatever the hell you want ha. I write with vowels in mind, register, what works well - it's a different story for covers obviously. Covers are MUCH harder than what I do with DeadSpiritCommunion as an example, because that's ultimately written for my voice.
K, can you please make a video about Chris singing Billie Jean? It's an acoustic video on RUclips with a black and white photo of Chris. I think that's his best live performance.
I had a classical teacher who really went the extra mile with what I wanted to learn - Estill always put me off when she/they taught breathy onsets. If you want to do a deeper dive, go and read a bunch of Ingo Titse material.
Thanks your your reply. I’ve only done a very short course in estill but they didn’t do anything like breathy onsets in what I did. We mostly did stuff in thin folds with very minimal breath. I only ask because you seem to know a fair bit about anatomy which mostly only estill people understand. Anyway, thanks for your reply. I’ll follow up with your suggestion@@FoundationVocalStudio
Chris wasn't a baritone - 4th of July is about a G2 and he's really bottoming out. Beyond the wheel is about the same - there's some fried out notes in interviews sure, that's not his true range. I'm comfortable down to A1 with some wiggle room, no fry. Low range aside, it's actually a tonal thing - go check out some of the covers where I'm naturally singing in that lower range, like the Crash Test Dummies, Lanegan or Type O ones - this fuller, brighter tone below a G2 isn't available to a low tenor like Chris. Tenor Robusto at the lowest ("Baritenor" is you will) - Tenor with a low extension down to about G or F2, maybe E as a fluke. Being able to flub a low note here and there, and speaking in fry, and even pushing in your high range doesn't define you as a baritone - I've been at this 25 years and took classical training and was actually defined Hoher Bass D2 - E4 after doing a study on Verdi pieces specifically, not that I'm a good classical singer anymore. Best - K
@@FoundationVocalStudio He had plenty recorded C2s and was definitely tonally a baritone. An example of speaking voice: ruclips.net/video/tZQ0Awp1veY/видео.htmlsi=3XQ7YummmFLwOsTl
He's speaking at an A2 with vocal fry at 6:30ish - this isn't a low voice, and there's tension in the larynx, so I suspect there's damage to his voice at this point. Recorded C2's - not actual sung C2's that were repeatable. I can flub a G1, maybe lower on a recording if I went at it a few times, I wouldn't say that's part of my natural range. "Definitely tonally a baritone" - nope, he's tonally a Tenor, there's a difference in the singer's formant in a voice like his, and his first break is at least a D4-E4, if not even higher when he was younger (listen to the vowel shifts in any prime CC song) - hence why in a song like "Call me a dog" he's singing up to the A4 with his first vowel shift only. Any of the lower songs, it's clear this is an extension in his voice rather than any real sort of lower range, or lower tone. Beyond the Wheel - it's squished and uncomfortable because he's reaching down to it. So, there's a question within a question here - what exactly is your point? That all of the technique I'm sharing in the video is just BS because I'm secretly a tenor and it's natural? And let me guess, you're unable to do so because of XYZ? Ask your real question please! Try the technique or don't, imma be over here wailing Chris Cornell AND Peter Steele songs. Best - K
Chris Cornell was definitely a baritone. Easily sourced from a multitude of sources, including from classically trained Bel Cantos. ruclips.net/video/EbyMeYcJqfw/видео.htmlsi=oW8nw8fpAfx4z7zb You’re definitely in the minority opinion claiming Cornell to be a tenor.
Funny that I'm in the minority - when the majority of advice out there does little but limit your range and cause tension. Ron Anderson taught Chris to push down on higher notes, hence why his range declined moving into Down on the Upside after that training took place, and just downhill from there. That's classical convention for you - but Chris wasn't a classical singer. Saying "definitely" doesn't change the direction of the discussion. A baritone is actually defined as a specific tone between G2 and G4 in classical fach (there's many types within each classification), Chris has the timbre of a Tenor in this range and above. Put him in a stageplay, he's definitely going to be cast as a Tenor. One final note - let me guess that none of the people that define him as a baritone from those videos can actually sing in that range, or in that style themselves? Funny that - they've never actually studied his voice indepth. Best - K
If we're talking 1995 onwards, I really have to agree. Robert Plant was also an awful singer, but I listen to Zeppelin daily and always dreamed of singing those songs, Ozzy Osbourne, Bowie, same thing. Side note, we've got a bunch of rescues here - keep doing what you're doing. K
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It is great to see this one again. Its ridiculous that the old channel disappeard. There is so damn much good info, and its good to know it wasnt lost.
Damn, you are one of the few that can pull it off without butchering it while still bringing your own style in!
Oh thankyou - you're too kind.
first actually!!! helpful vocal analysis and technique review video on YT
wow.
ok.
Back to learnin. [Thank u]
Love this channel dude
You have by far the best vocal training videos on RUclips. You are phenomenal my friend.
Thankyou, you're too kind - glad you're getting something out of them. Best - K
Check out Sterling R Jackson, he sounds nearly identical 😵💫
@@WFly101 Sterling is great. Sure, like Audioslave that is.
It would be really cool to see you deconstruct Dio. I really enjoyed the breakdown and explanations here. Rock on 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Man! This is awesome! Thanks a lot!
Man Thaks so much, you help me so much, saludos desde México.
Man, this is really good stuff. I really appreciate how you review this with good terminology and explanations to get to the end goal.
For me, understanding the procedural components and how it works helps me to concentrate and focus on practicing those specific techniques I want to improve.
Anyway, subbed and thanks for giving what is basically college grade content out for free!
Thankyou for the kind words, glad you're getting a lot from it. Best - K
good reminders mate thanks
I subscribed by the intro before you started speaking. sick singing dude!
Right I was floored at his range..🙏
FYI I would shortly after unsubscribed 😂
beautiful voice, even when doing covers you sound natural as yourself, super cool how we can get inspiration from great singers and still be free to be ourselves.
Great info brother you have great range too..wow from your deep voice to your singing i was like how does he do that....amazing ..🙏
Thankyou! Best - K
Nice to see you back on RUclips 🎉
Hi! Wonderful video! Great explanation!! Would make a video about his time in Audioslave, just asking, since you said you don't like that period of his career. I would appreciate to see you explain that, I think it was his peak and you have one the best explaining i have ever seen!
Thanks. Yes, I have another video comparing somewhere - I would say Louder than Love was his peak and it's all downhill from there, but hey, I'm old. K
I sound just like you at 5:22, j/k man you sound phenomenal
😂😂
Sehr guter Content. Danke und viele Grüße aus Deutschland 👋
Thankyou from OZ! - K
Always a good day when you upload singing videos, man!
Twang, absolutely! Made a change in my speaking voice as well, was pleasantly surprised to hear you say that too.
Singing with my own instrument, another great tip. Uploaded Breaking Benjamin recently and it sounds like me, not Benjamin.
Check it out!
Great video, keep them coming!
Nice pipes. Not really a singer myself, clicked for the Deicide tee, good stuff though.
Where abouts in aus r u from? Any gigs soon?
Thanks for this insightful video! I was just wonder though. In your video "How to sing like Layne Staley", you talk about how you create distortion by twanging even more than normal and how that vibrates the bones in the face and disrupts the resonance there. But isn't it the false chords that produce that distortion?
Sure, there's engagement of the false folds - however, the grit you hear when I'm doing the Layne thing isn't actually the sound of the false folds pulsing, it's the decay of resonance and how the air is interrupted - this basically overdrives some of the frequencies. Someone like David Draiman is using false folds for the most part, however Layne is using resonance - and Cornell used both from about Badmotorfinger onwards. Fry screaming and pulsing the false folds just isn't going to get you there if you're going for more of this classic rock style grit - but if you're doing modern screamo (yuck) then sure, that's the example people will give you. There's a certain narrative that becomes the mainstream on RUclips, but always with either natural singers who can just 'do it' without every having to find it, or, people who can't actually sing/sing well. The reality of what you're going for is often different to the convention you're going to find on regular channels. K
@@FoundationVocalStudio Ah, I see. Think I get it now! I'm definitely trying to go for a more classic rock style grit, like Layne and Chris. Not so much modern screamo (that yuck gave me a good chuckle, lol). Though it would be cool to be able to sing like Devin Townsend as well. I think he sounds great.
Thanks for answering me! Have a great day, afternoon, night, whatever.
I was wondering where you went as well. Welcome back.
Question: You write a song. You've got the lyrics there. Likely you've already sung through it many times. Do you then take an analytical pass considering vowels, placement, breathing (if necessary) to create specific sounds? Or does it just bake itself into your process at this point? I play guitar pretty well and I would liken my current predicament as a singer to the point where, as a guitarist, I learned the cage system, chord scales, scales and a little harmony. I've got this instrument (voice) but the way I can use it is really very haphazard. LOL. There's songs I can now sing some how after a year or so of watching you and this other youtuber that doesn't annoy the EFF out of me. I finally understood what "connecting" means. I accidently discovered what head voice actually is and volume is sort of an illusion.
ALL that is to say I can't imagine someone writing a bunch of lyrics and then going back and finding the "best way to sing a vowel". Is this something that people that know what they're doing do? Or, is it just a thing awesome singers do naturally? I'm realizing know this may be a stupid question. Thanks for your instruction. I really missed it. (looking at you youtube :|)
One more thing! The thing that led me to head voice was a video that you did (can't recall the title) where you were talking about working with students and talking about their fears, basically you were asking "what happens if you let yourself go falsetto?" BOOM! I tried it. Some how, not sure how. I found where that soft falsetto turns into head voice. I think I was singing along to Sting or Jellyfish. Is was very subtle at first. Broke a lot. Now I can sing those songs over and over. Pretty cool. Thanks, man.
Depends on the person really - I consider vowels when I write a song. It doesn't really change pronunciation of the vowel per se, so really you can sing whatever the hell you want; however, there's a WAY to sing whatever the hell you want ha. I write with vowels in mind, register, what works well - it's a different story for covers obviously. Covers are MUCH harder than what I do with DeadSpiritCommunion as an example, because that's ultimately written for my voice.
K, can you please make a video about Chris singing Billie Jean? It's an acoustic video on RUclips with a black and white photo of Chris. I think that's his best live performance.
Beyond the Wheel in 1990 is one of the best to my ear! ha. K
Just out of interest, what is the basis for your understanding of the anatomy of the voice? Is it Estill method?
I had a classical teacher who really went the extra mile with what I wanted to learn - Estill always put me off when she/they taught breathy onsets. If you want to do a deeper dive, go and read a bunch of Ingo Titse material.
Thanks your your reply. I’ve only done a very short course in estill but they didn’t do anything like breathy onsets in what I did. We mostly did stuff in thin folds with very minimal breath. I only ask because you seem to know a fair bit about anatomy which mostly only estill people understand. Anyway, thanks for your reply. I’ll follow up with your suggestion@@FoundationVocalStudio
I don’t think your voice is naturally lower than Chris’. He was also a baritone and you can find many speaking interviews than reflect that
Chris wasn't a baritone - 4th of July is about a G2 and he's really bottoming out. Beyond the wheel is about the same - there's some fried out notes in interviews sure, that's not his true range. I'm comfortable down to A1 with some wiggle room, no fry. Low range aside, it's actually a tonal thing - go check out some of the covers where I'm naturally singing in that lower range, like the Crash Test Dummies, Lanegan or Type O ones - this fuller, brighter tone below a G2 isn't available to a low tenor like Chris. Tenor Robusto at the lowest ("Baritenor" is you will) - Tenor with a low extension down to about G or F2, maybe E as a fluke. Being able to flub a low note here and there, and speaking in fry, and even pushing in your high range doesn't define you as a baritone - I've been at this 25 years and took classical training and was actually defined Hoher Bass D2 - E4 after doing a study on Verdi pieces specifically, not that I'm a good classical singer anymore. Best - K
@@FoundationVocalStudio He had plenty recorded C2s and was definitely tonally a baritone.
An example of speaking voice: ruclips.net/video/tZQ0Awp1veY/видео.htmlsi=3XQ7YummmFLwOsTl
He's speaking at an A2 with vocal fry at 6:30ish - this isn't a low voice, and there's tension in the larynx, so I suspect there's damage to his voice at this point. Recorded C2's - not actual sung C2's that were repeatable. I can flub a G1, maybe lower on a recording if I went at it a few times, I wouldn't say that's part of my natural range.
"Definitely tonally a baritone" - nope, he's tonally a Tenor, there's a difference in the singer's formant in a voice like his, and his first break is at least a D4-E4, if not even higher when he was younger (listen to the vowel shifts in any prime CC song) - hence why in a song like "Call me a dog" he's singing up to the A4 with his first vowel shift only. Any of the lower songs, it's clear this is an extension in his voice rather than any real sort of lower range, or lower tone. Beyond the Wheel - it's squished and uncomfortable because he's reaching down to it.
So, there's a question within a question here - what exactly is your point? That all of the technique I'm sharing in the video is just BS because I'm secretly a tenor and it's natural? And let me guess, you're unable to do so because of XYZ? Ask your real question please! Try the technique or don't, imma be over here wailing Chris Cornell AND Peter Steele songs. Best - K
Chris Cornell was definitely a baritone. Easily sourced from a multitude of sources, including from classically trained Bel Cantos.
ruclips.net/video/EbyMeYcJqfw/видео.htmlsi=oW8nw8fpAfx4z7zb
You’re definitely in the minority opinion claiming Cornell to be a tenor.
Funny that I'm in the minority - when the majority of advice out there does little but limit your range and cause tension. Ron Anderson taught Chris to push down on higher notes, hence why his range declined moving into Down on the Upside after that training took place, and just downhill from there. That's classical convention for you - but Chris wasn't a classical singer. Saying "definitely" doesn't change the direction of the discussion. A baritone is actually defined as a specific tone between G2 and G4 in classical fach (there's many types within each classification), Chris has the timbre of a Tenor in this range and above. Put him in a stageplay, he's definitely going to be cast as a Tenor. One final note - let me guess that none of the people that define him as a baritone from those videos can actually sing in that range, or in that style themselves? Funny that - they've never actually studied his voice indepth. Best - K
Cornell was a terrible singer
If we're talking 1995 onwards, I really have to agree. Robert Plant was also an awful singer, but I listen to Zeppelin daily and always dreamed of singing those songs, Ozzy Osbourne, Bowie, same thing. Side note, we've got a bunch of rescues here - keep doing what you're doing. K