How to Sing Higher as a Baritone (TWO Key Tips!) Pull From Ian Thornley, Chris Cornell & Others

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  • Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2021
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    Tenors sing higher than baritones right? Not always! If you know how to feel out certain things in your voice as a baritone, you can do what good tenors have an easier time masking and skyrocket your range as a baritone!
    In this video, I go through the approaches of 4 different singers... Two tenors and two baritones and compare and contrast their approaches. What we draw out of these singers will blow your mind if you're looking to sing higher well... Regardless of your voice type!

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  • @matheusferraz486
    @matheusferraz486 2 года назад +264

    Hey YOU, yeah YOU, I cant tell you enough how amazing and stright to the point is chris liepes course!! I got the mixed voice course yesterday and I already feel my mixed voice on another level after practicing for almost a year with his youtube videos. His youtube videos are a great start, my favorite youtube vocal coach by a mile, but you can go with them until a certain point. The big gold is in his paid courses, really really really, just TRUST ME, if singing is one of your favorite things in this life and you want to improve it with your mix voice, just get his course!!!! Thank you Chris!!!

    • @jordanheyvaert6204
      @jordanheyvaert6204 2 года назад +3

      I'm going to sign up for it! Thank you for the input!

    • @cafe.cedarbeard
      @cafe.cedarbeard Год назад +5

      Funding struggle is the catch. I can barely afford food, let alone paid lessons in anything. Lockdown crushed my crappy job, now not enough work to even afford shelter. I'd pay Chris in a heartbeat if I had the money. He's the best fit I've found as he's got the skills to do all the odd sounds I can do, but has more knowledge in how it's done.

    • @wise5746
      @wise5746 Год назад +3

      So what is Harry Styles’s Voice type?
      Is he Bass or Baritone or Tenor?

    • @velvetpaws999
      @velvetpaws999 Год назад +4

      @@cafe.cedarbeard I feel for you, mate, but... are you too old to find a new job? Sick? Addicted to some drugs and can't shake it off? I mean, we all can fall on some hard times... if you think you gots da guts, to be a singer... which is one of the hardest lines of work I can think of, then you should start by getting yourself up and running again, consider it practice for later! I wish you the faith in yourself and the strength to get back on your feet! ❤‍🩹💝
      And by the way, as things are going right now, most businesses struggle to find employees. There aren’t enough people anywhere who want to really work, even though many businesses raise their salaries. So if you are out of a job and you seriously want to make some money to earn your living don’t tell me you’ve got no chance to work anywhere. Ask me and I’ll point you in a handful of directions!

    • @thatswhatisaidCA
      @thatswhatisaidCA Год назад

      @@cafe.cedarbeard I feel you, but hard times bring out creativity, so pick up a guitar (instrument) and write something! The Blues perhaps (tell your woes in story) or get the frustration out with something more rock or metal). It will be an outlet for you, and inspire others. Good luck!

  • @TheChristOfRockNRoll
    @TheChristOfRockNRoll 2 года назад +748

    A well trained baritone trains religiously on a daily basis conditioning his voice and vocal technique to blend registers and use mixed voice to hit high tenor notes. It is a process of muscle coordination and strengthening those muscles and build up stamina. I am afraid to say without doing the daily exercises correctly for quite a long time you won't get anywhere near Cornell's (who is a highly trained baritone) ballpark or other baritones capable of reaching very high tenor notes with power. This is the secret......you have to work hard for it and for some time too. You stop, you drop!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +133

      Pure TRUTH

    • @TheProtestantPope
      @TheProtestantPope 2 года назад +33

      @@chrisliepe "The TRUTH is rarely pure and never simple!"

    • @AlexVonCrank
      @AlexVonCrank 2 года назад +6

      @@TheProtestantPope you are a dolt.

    • @TheProtestantPope
      @TheProtestantPope 2 года назад +5

      @@AlexVonCrank I am the same person as the Christ of ROCK n ROLL.......clearly a genius with 58 likes and counting..... 🤣🤣🤣

    • @marslpv2333
      @marslpv2333 2 года назад +5

      @@TheProtestantPope
      Troll

  • @YisraelFernando
    @YisraelFernando 2 года назад +82

    Ok chris cornell is the GOAT i don't care bout anything, he's the singing GOAT

    • @jarrodcarter1466
      @jarrodcarter1466 2 года назад +2

      The only singer I can hear everyday and love

    • @YisraelFernando
      @YisraelFernando 2 года назад +1

      @@jarrodcarter1466 W

    • @MichaelGrubbEvolvedMinistry
      @MichaelGrubbEvolvedMinistry 2 года назад +1

      I love Chris Cornell, but, he's not the "GOAT." He often struggled with live shows because his voice would tire by the end of a set and he was not consistent with how he would sing songs from the album to live performances. Michael Patton is more like the true "GOAT" of vocals. Layne Staley was probably the best of the Grunge era of rock.

    • @DaveThomson
      @DaveThomson 2 года назад

      Yep, only Layne Staley was better.

    • @YisraelFernando
      @YisraelFernando 2 года назад +3

      @@DaveThomson nah.
      he's a top 10, chris is top 1

  • @jarrodcarter1466
    @jarrodcarter1466 2 года назад +250

    I agree with everything you said Chris: Additionally, the recipe to build baritone range for me has been:
    1) stretch and strengthen your falsetto as high as you can every day
    2) stretch your falsetto down to well under the passagio with descending scales over your chest voice to help your transition to mixed voice become smooth and eliminate ascending blockages
    3) do the Messa di Voce exercise as often as you can. It teaches you placement and to thread the power of your chest voice through your falsetto
    4) understand that your voice should get weaker over the course of a session as the muscles fatigue. It should never get sore
    5) sing lots of high songs exclusively in falsetto to strengthen the often neglected head voice muscles
    6) avoid singing songs that reinforce bad technique. You should never reach a high note that you can't strain up from. Your voice should get thinner and weaker as it ascends and not hit blockages. Songs that give you a strained high-note ceiling should be avoided.

    • @dgooshe
      @dgooshe 2 года назад +3

      will be going through these, thanks so much :) I enjoyed the video but had a bit of trouble knowig what exactly to do / change

    • @ptjww9455
      @ptjww9455 2 года назад +2

      Thanks Jarrod!

    • @findingmyvoice5529
      @findingmyvoice5529 2 года назад +2

      Thank you Jerrod for this excellent input

    • @zacharymaneja1207
      @zacharymaneja1207 2 года назад +1

      You my good sir are generous

    • @EidosX_
      @EidosX_ 2 года назад +3

      I just screenshotted that. I've been training mixed voice for 2 years I think and I'm not getting any better.
      I'm especially guilty of the last point, it's so frustrating not to be able to sing anything that I just go mix voice above G4 and pull chest voice like crazy for everything in D4-G4 which tenses me up, prevents me from doing mixed voice and leading me in a downward spiral. Guess I have to stop singing most songs I sing and only sing low stuff or very high stuff to train my mixed voice / passagio

  • @musicval7462
    @musicval7462 2 года назад +85

    Most people are told they have a lower voice than they actually have when they start singing. I personnaly was told to be a bass-baritone because I couldn't sing high. Now that I start to use a better technique, people tell me I'm a low tenor/ baritenor. Plenty of my low baritones friends can sing as high as me and have a way better low range than mine! Baritones have way more presence in their midrange and it sounds amazing! It's not about range!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +15

      YES YES YES. It's NOT about range!!

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 2 года назад +2

      Because they use the high note as measurement when the right way of voice type classification is to measure the low register.

    • @musicval7462
      @musicval7462 2 года назад

      @@melodica5407 What voice type goes to which pitch in lowness ?

    • @disosiao
      @disosiao 2 года назад

      Same

  • @Croot_Music
    @Croot_Music 2 года назад +107

    Ok, that Soundgarden cover was on fucking point

  • @ludwiglanestudios
    @ludwiglanestudios 2 года назад +91

    As a natural Baritone, I'll mention how I began to approach "higher notes".
    After practicing vocal exercises 4× a week for a whole year, I went from being able to hit an F4 comfortably to hitting an A4 comfortably with my mixed chest/head voice. That major 3rd took a long time to finally achieve. And I of can hit that A4 after 15 minutes of warming up.
    I attribute this to practicing my perfect fifths slides, octave slides, lip trill arpeggios/scales, and tongue trill arpeggios/scales. Piano is my main instrument, so I accompany myself, which I understand not many people have the luxury of being able to do that, but I do urge people to learn their scales and arpeggios on the piano. I'll have a video for that soon.
    I want to be able to hit a C5 with my mixed chest/head voice, and I think that can happen in about a year. My falsetto can hit a high E, which was natural for me. And for my bass notes, I'm practicing vocal frys and trumpet sounding descending fifths(I forgot what those exercises are called).
    So as of now, my range is from F-sharp 2 to A-4 with my chest to mixed voice, not counting falsetto.
    Singing is just something I do for fun- I'm a producer and pianist. But I married a vocalist and I want to start singing with her more and more while I accompany the both of us.

    • @andrejz8954
      @andrejz8954 2 года назад +1

      that sounds really awesome man! I wish I was in your shoes! At least as far as a spouse goes. Really want a music girl! But yeah, much can be done with practice, and it's really cool and helpfull that you shared your tips and tricks, I guess I'll give em a whirl! :)

    • @andrejz8954
      @andrejz8954 2 года назад

      @@laptopstudy3279 I suffer from reflux/ GERD as well. It's amazing how it messes up your voice.

    • @ivancadena3031
      @ivancadena3031 2 года назад

      @@andrejz8954 Yes, it's a pain in the ... well, you know where.

    • @mckeithanmott3959
      @mckeithanmott3959 Год назад

      my range is similar to yours but i can’t necessarily hit an A4 comfortably..

  • @fdakis
    @fdakis 2 года назад +89

    Cornell has always been my favorite singer of all time. I think the underappreciated aspect of his talent is this: while he wasn't able to sing the higher notes from songs such as Say Hello to Heaven or Slaves and Bulldozers in his later years, he added an even more improved tone and vibrato. THAT is how you evolve as a vocalist into your 40's and 50's. RIP to the greatest.

    • @LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes
      @LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes 2 года назад +7

      Cornell's mature voice & tone was getting towards that of a big band 50s singer. I'm a baritone, same thing is happening to me in my 40s. In my 20s I was trying to sing like Cobain & John Fogerty, now I'm crooning along to Sinatra & Tom Jones

    • @fdakis
      @fdakis 2 года назад +4

      @@LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes I don't think everyone shares the same experience as they get older. Sure, our voices are bound to change as get older. As a matter of fact you and I are probably close in age (46), but I've been fortunate to keep my range while adding a more raspy sound. Consider Steven Tyler and Scott Weiland, two guys who sounded almost nothing like their younger selves.
      To add, I'd have to disagree with the opinion that his voice was sounding more "Big Band"

    • @LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes
      @LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes 2 года назад +2

      @@fdakis His live cover of "nothing compares to you" had a much more polished country jazz style than any other "grunge" artist I've heard. It actually encouraged me to head more in that direction as a singer myself. The singing coach actually said this and I checked out a few 50s and 60s slightly corny country and jazz baritone singers and realised she had a point. It was his vowels and timbre

    • @BC08
      @BC08 2 года назад +4

      @@LordStompyHarpLoonyTunes Cornell was getting more into the blue eyed soul territory than big band I’d say

  • @seutarcisiog
    @seutarcisiog 2 года назад +41

    As a low baritone, let me say: my day has finally arrived. Thank you Chris

  • @GabrielBarbosa-jq9st
    @GabrielBarbosa-jq9st 2 года назад +147

    This is so damn great. Most male singers nowadays are tenors -or at least sing as if they were-, so I, for example, have often caught myself "not being able to sing" many songs I like. This not only tells me that I can, but it tells me that I can do it in a way that is different from the mainstream.
    Yes, the baritone voice sounds different. But does it sound worse? Nah. We just have to explore a bit more and get comfortable.
    Thanks!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +15

      YES YES YES

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 2 года назад +14

      In pop music? Yes
      But in rock music, as far as i can remember there are more baritone singers.
      Because the tone fits better.
      I also prefer baritones higher range for heavier music because their mixed voice is thick like chest voice.

    • @andreasfrost-blade4689
      @andreasfrost-blade4689 2 года назад +2

      It’s really something being a bass too.

    • @briansullivan3424
      @briansullivan3424 2 года назад +16

      The baritone voice also has more warmth and resonance, especially in your chest voice and low end of your mixed register... it's almost impossible for (most) tenors to get that timbre into their performance without the aid of post-production. So, while us baritones have to practice more to get that muscle coordination down between registers and really concentrate on smoothing out the transition from one register to the next so that aren't as pronounced, we can learn to do it with practice and instruction... but, we also have natural body to our voice that basically cannot be taught; you either have it, or you don't, and many tenors do not... it's just physiology.
      As a kid, I always wanted to sound like an 80s power tenor but, as I've gotten older, my favorite voices from the 80s often turned out to be high baritones who had mastered those techniques, and weren't always tenors like I assumed. Cheers from Maryland, US!

    • @GabrielBarbosa-jq9st
      @GabrielBarbosa-jq9st 2 года назад +1

      @@melodica5407 it really depends on what you mean by "rock music" and "heavier music". Metalcore and lots of prog metal singers don't quite have the baritone voice, or at least don't use its assets. ERRA, Northlane, Polaris, Periphery and TesseracT are some examples.
      Maybe in the past, but in modern heavier music I'd say baritones aren't that present either. There are quite a few counter-examples to what I said though, like Five Finger Death Punch.

  • @FrancesLocke
    @FrancesLocke 2 года назад +31

    There is something magical and inspiring about watching people talk about the stuff they are passionate about. And this guy is absolutely one of those people. His enthusiasm has made my day.

  • @cnutella9947
    @cnutella9947 2 года назад +58

    If you wanna cover Ian Thornley more that would be sick. So glad he's been getting more attention lately. Feel like he wasn't getting his due for a long time.

  • @gg666123456
    @gg666123456 2 года назад +14

    Can confirm. I'm a low bass and sometimes people think there are 1-2 people singing with me because my voice changes so much from a A1 open to A2 relaxed to A4 belted to A5 falsetto. When I first started out I almost gave up on becoming a singer because no songs were "made for my voice range" but thanks to your videos and many more I learned how to use my voice to climb over those obstacles

  • @ahacks7692
    @ahacks7692 Год назад +16

    This guy's voice is insane, is literally the perfect voice for rock. Also this dude really knows what he is talking about, great video

  • @Daniel_Batal
    @Daniel_Batal 2 года назад +44

    RUclips recommendation doing wonderful things today. Glad I was served this video. I had the pleasure of knowing and jamming with Brad over the years. This was a great explanation by example of how to expand your vocal range.

  • @donnycollins1797
    @donnycollins1797 2 года назад +46

    Love your videos! I’m a baritone and I’ve always been extremely jealous of tenors.

    • @viictor1309
      @viictor1309 2 года назад +5

      Same here

    • @axel.lessio
      @axel.lessio 2 года назад +3

      I'm a tenor (B2 - A5) and I'd give both kidneys to shift my whole range an octave lower. 😅

    • @muslimmetalman
      @muslimmetalman 2 года назад +1

      of what? having less weight in the voice? that's lame. you can always sing higher. we generally cant sing lower.

    • @wubbaplays4341
      @wubbaplays4341 2 года назад +1

      From everything I've seen and heard, baritones have a much wider range due to the thickness of our vocal cords. It applies to falsetto as well. Thicker cords, more range with falsetto and mixed voice. I'm constantly singing along with tenor pop songs and with practice it's relatively easy to figure out how to change your tone to match a tenor's tone. You have to really work at learning how to smooth out the screech like quality to your tone.

    • @darylkenny4562
      @darylkenny4562 2 года назад

      @@wubbaplays4341 yea but it’s a heavier, thicker sound. I notice it up high that I don’t have the agility that a tenor has in the same range and you can hear that it’s because it’s carrying more weight. It’s cool in it’s own right though and everything is a trade off. I’m a dramatic baritone and last year learned how to get into my subharmonic register and hit low notes (lowest A1). That’s something I would not want to give up in exchange for being a tenor.

  • @Z4U3398
    @Z4U3398 2 года назад +7

    Baritone here. Still able to hit *She's Gone* in it's original C minor without cracking. My advice? Use *all* techniques at your disposal; nasality, vocal twang, compression, everything to stabilize your mix register. Start slow, start soft & then apply diaphragmatic support. All the best, folks!

  • @callingallkings163
    @callingallkings163 2 года назад +33

    I fell prey to "comparison" and learned to "hate" my voice (ONLY) because I compared my wants vocally to my actual vox... THIS video alone set me into acceptance of my Baritone vocals and my desire to sing at higher pitches. I've been in the studio all morning recording me actually laughing and having fun with my vocals now. Thanks brother.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +2

      You're so very welcome Calling All Kings!

  • @RickyConnelley
    @RickyConnelley 2 года назад +22

    There’s an interview of Chris saying he had to practice for months transitioning from his acoustic material to his older stuff. Watched him at the ryman on the Higher Truth tour. His voice was amazing. He was better live than on record. He’s the reason I became an artist singer/songwriter.

    • @Adrian101882
      @Adrian101882 2 года назад +1

      You have a link to that interview?

  • @liamvanderbilt1074
    @liamvanderbilt1074 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video. I’ve been super down on myself lately because most of my favorite singers are tenors and I’m a baritone and I always feel like my voice will never sound like theirs bc I can’t get high enough. I’ve recently started exploring my head voice more and this gave me so much more hope and motivation to keep going🤘🏼

  • @ericheaps777
    @ericheaps777 2 года назад

    Thank you Chris, I am a baritone and I've been dealing with finding my mixed voice sound and its been fun to find out what I can do, your video here helps solidify the road I'm on, appreciate you and keep up the great lessons!

  • @NikNovaMusic
    @NikNovaMusic 2 года назад +25

    Yes, Ian Thornley deserves way more attention…

    • @superunknown2812
      @superunknown2812 2 года назад

      Loved ian when he was in his band Thornley such a heavy band and his voice was perfect at that time

  • @justinknight8421
    @justinknight8421 2 года назад +8

    Awesome to hear Ian Thornley in on these discussions, he's my favorite vocalist right now!

  • @velvetpaws999
    @velvetpaws999 Год назад +1

    Wow, that was exciting! Very good demonstrations and excellent voice samples! Loved it! Thank you ! 💖

  • @lincolnzeferino8287
    @lincolnzeferino8287 2 года назад +1

    That was great!!!
    I used to be so shy about my higher voice as a baritone, and I admire so much Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder.
    It was cool to see you do all this. Thank you.

  • @RichCerbini
    @RichCerbini 7 месяцев назад +5

    Chris inspires me so much its insane. He makes me want to constantly be singing and writing. Thank you so much for these videos.

  • @moebiwan
    @moebiwan 2 года назад +2

    Great video! HUGE Ian Thornley/BW fan. RUclips's algorithm brought me here and you just earned a sub for such a fine explanation of what both Ian and Chris do to crush those tough high notes.

  • @chrisedrums9023
    @chrisedrums9023 2 года назад

    literally been in the studio this week and this video has helped me with backing singing so much. Thankyou Chris, you're a belter.

  • @arnoldosanabria8710
    @arnoldosanabria8710 2 года назад +2

    Man this video just encouraged my current pursue of being able to reach those higher notes being a baritone... Chris I tell you, your channel is exactly what I needed for me to continue my learning path
    Even the music and artists you like are pretty much in tune with mine haha it’s awesome
    Thanks for the knowledge and wisdom master 🙏🙌🤘

  • @badm0t0rf1nger
    @badm0t0rf1nger 2 года назад +5

    Great video.
    Very rare to hear anyone do justice covering a Cornell or Thornley vocal. Kudos. :)

  • @vaughanband
    @vaughanband 2 года назад +39

    I’m a tenor and I wish I was a baritone so my head register would be naturally thicker…i had to work really hard to thicken up my head voice because as a tenor it was naturally so bright and boyish.
    Another great example of a baritone is David Coverdale…my favourite singer.

    • @marstudios7879
      @marstudios7879 2 года назад +5

      Unbelievable Sam, I have a baritone voice and you don’t know how much I’d like to have a tenor voice.

    • @vaughanband
      @vaughanband 2 года назад +4

      @@marstudios7879 ha ha, I guess we always want what we don’t have. Honestly there’s only about a tone or tone and a half difference in the notes a baritone can hit compared to a tenor. Like I said I struggled with the tone of my upper register…naturally it’s very bright and childlike…I’ve had to work on getting more girth and weight to the sound. Why do you want to be a tenor??

    • @lucasnovaes-programacao2869
      @lucasnovaes-programacao2869 2 года назад

      How did you thicken up your sound? I have the same issue

    • @vaughanband
      @vaughanband 2 года назад +1

      @@lucasnovaes-programacao2869 recording myself a lot, listening and then trying to sing the same phrase with more open throat, more diaphragm squeezing and more compression…i think this builds up the muscles over a few months but I need to practice at least an hour a day to keep the strength.

    • @gnomasome4698
      @gnomasome4698 2 года назад +1

      @@vaughanband i have the same thing, i think im a tenor since the way i learnt to sing was with the tenor parts in the beach boys and paul McCartney and my voice matches pauls amount of heft its not as bright and floaty as the Wilsons, i have trouble with my highs getting thin but the only way ive found to fix it is to do the paul McCartney thing where he just lowers his larynx n closes his throat up and does this fake baritone thing like in golden slumbers or oh darling or lady madonna, which sounds kinda camp and silly sometimes but so far its my only method lmao im gonna try and do what you said

  • @zamanisohrab2410
    @zamanisohrab2410 2 года назад

    Thank you, this has really inspired me to look at my voice differently as a baritone, and now I'm gonna take a different approach!
    Thank you ,Chris Liepe.

  • @keithwolfe9726
    @keithwolfe9726 2 года назад +2

    GREAT ,GREAT,GREAT, GREAT video!!! So clear and well demonstrated. Thanks Chris!

  • @nickolajmusic
    @nickolajmusic 2 года назад +9

    Chris this is amazing - as a baritone singer I have so much hope now!! Thanks for breaking down these fantastic singers - happy to hear that you are an Ian Thornley fan too!

  • @Izzy-fh8sr
    @Izzy-fh8sr 2 года назад +5

    You’ve got a great channel man, I appreciate this a lot.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      I'm glad and thank you Izzy!

  • @triorubino-michakoeppen9105
    @triorubino-michakoeppen9105 2 года назад +2

    thanks! this encourages me a lot as a baritone myself, especially to develop and use my head voice more... also in daily speaking!

  • @jonstapleton9250
    @jonstapleton9250 2 года назад +1

    Somehow you manage to keep upping the quality of your content! Found this one very valuable. Sage advice.

  • @adikickass84
    @adikickass84 2 года назад +9

    Wow this really cleared up a lot of misconceptions I had in my head. Thank you Chris.

  • @luisfernandomoralesoscoy3377
    @luisfernandomoralesoscoy3377 Год назад +3

    Thank you for this video, you changed my perspective of how I saw baritones and that means a lot because I´m also a baritone. When I started singing my teachers separate me and made me think that I would never sing high notes. I thought that singers like Chris Cornell were blessed and I would never sing as them, but this video helped me a lot to change my mindset, so I am really grateful. Thank you for your content and taking your time for doing your best.

  • @colecroskey6952
    @colecroskey6952 2 года назад +1

    I'm so glad I saw this video. The excuse monsters have definitely been in my head but this just gave me a whole new perspective, thank you sir!

  • @leumas8688
    @leumas8688 2 года назад +1

    This content is something that I have been seeking for years, thank you

  • @timclaridge3249
    @timclaridge3249 Год назад +5

    I've been singing for maybe 13 years, your lessons are blowing my mind. I accepted I had Mark Lanegan range for a long time and gave up on ever sounding like Chris Cornell, but with these videos and practice I feel like I'm finally getting there and unlocking a hidden power. Thanks so much! More excited about singing than I have been in a long time.

  • @simon-rjk8905
    @simon-rjk8905 2 года назад +7

    I wish somebody explained it this clearly to me in college. Thanks so much!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      Happy to help Simon! You're very welcome!

  • @clipsmasterproductions7479
    @clipsmasterproductions7479 2 года назад

    This is very enlightening. Cool to hear that we baritones can sing as high as tenors. Makes a lot of sense that it’s a different way of using the voice for tenors vs baritones and that voice classification is in the end more about timbre than range. Very cool!

  • @mcpribs
    @mcpribs 2 года назад +2

    Haven’t gotten through the intro with Superunknown yet. Incredible!!! Cornell is my favorite singer, and you did this justice. Well done!

  • @kjdskgj
    @kjdskgj 2 года назад +19

    This topic (low voice singing higher range) is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you! I have a really low voice, might even be bass but not quite sure, could be just very low baritone. But anyways I struggle with those higher ranges, so I'd love to see more videos about this!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +6

      Ya, going to be doing a few more angles on this very topic in the coming weeks... Stay tuned!

    • @kjdskgj
      @kjdskgj 2 года назад

      @@chrisliepe Awesome, thanks! 🙏

  • @markrutkowski7094
    @markrutkowski7094 2 года назад +7

    I am a baritone and at first felt limited in wiring melodies, but I learned to use my voice in other ways and it helped me be more interesting melodically as well as performance wise. The one thing I really would like is to be able to go a little higher/ballsier on the outro sometimes

  • @ChadHicks92
    @ChadHicks92 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for Ian Thornley, don't know how I've never heard of him. Awesome!

  • @bellwether_ritual
    @bellwether_ritual 2 года назад

    Thanks for your videos Chris! They've helped me find the strengths and limits of my range and write/sing accordingly. Cheers!

  • @brendanflaherty6696
    @brendanflaherty6696 2 года назад +9

    Oh man… Thornley and Cornell in the same video?! Yer speaking my language, man. My voice isn’t really suited to lead vocals, but a big part of my usefulness as a backing vocalist is the range I developed, largely thanks to these two singers. Singing along to their records in the car for a couple years was the ticket.
    The the thing about Thornley… as good of a vocalist as he is, he’s an even better guitarist. Check out some of the Suhr Factory Party vids, for both Big Wreck and Ian Thornley. Dude’s the total package.

  • @aleksamrkela831
    @aleksamrkela831 2 года назад +8

    I needed this! Might be useful for basses, too.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +4

      Very useful for basses! And Tenors and Altos etc... for that matter haha

  • @astrogallus
    @astrogallus Год назад +1

    Extraordinarily helpful! The first time I have ever fully understood my own vocal range.

  • @crimsonmaverick8237
    @crimsonmaverick8237 2 года назад +2

    This honestly just gets me excited. I know some things range wise aren’t in the cards, and that’s ok, but the idea that I may be able to achieve vocals I never believed I could if I just work at it gets me hyped to continue my voice journey as a baritone.

  • @gavinjordan4259
    @gavinjordan4259 2 года назад +7

    I’m so glad you’ve thrown both Ian thornley and chris cornel in the same video!!!! Ian Thornley is a freak along with Cornell. And like always thanks for awesome video

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +7

      Two of my absolute favs!

  • @noisyverset
    @noisyverset 8 месяцев назад +3

    I’m a baritone, but when speaking people think I’m a bass. So they get surprised when they hear me singing. Thanks to you I’ve expanded my range quite a bit, and I also use techniques you’re teaching.
    To those of you who think you can’t reach higher notes, and even expand your range- you can! It takes some practice over time, at least it did for me.
    Thank you! 🙂

  • @erikvinnie
    @erikvinnie 2 года назад +1

    I’m so glad a vocal coach FINALLY acknowledged the awesomeness that is Ian Thornley ✊
    You need to do more deep dives and videos on his singing!

  • @christophermedina7105
    @christophermedina7105 2 года назад

    Amazing! I learned more from this video than I have in 13 years of practicing and singing.

  • @JohnnyGTar
    @JohnnyGTar 2 года назад +29

    Besides the cool tips and valuable info, I really like it when you do a singing intro!

    • @Adrian101882
      @Adrian101882 2 года назад +2

      Agree. He crushed this particular intro so hard too

    • @yolo7662
      @yolo7662 2 года назад +1

      i got chills hearing the intro

  • @FrankValchiria
    @FrankValchiria 2 года назад +5

    my man you have a great voice

  • @Orieus
    @Orieus 2 года назад +1

    Brillant man , just brillant advice and singing ! I'm glad I've discovered along my singing journey.

  • @fmartin09
    @fmartin09 11 месяцев назад +1

    Pure genius! I'm a tenor but this is crazy. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lisandroguevara1756
    @lisandroguevara1756 2 года назад +7

    Hi Chris! You are the best vocal coach I have ever had. Thanks for your lessons.

  • @6BURG9
    @6BURG9 2 года назад +5

    I am obsessed with Thornley’s tone. It’s perfect.

    • @birdg2112
      @birdg2112 2 года назад +1

      Should be a household name.

  • @AdamDoesGuitar
    @AdamDoesGuitar 2 года назад +1

    As a natural baritone these tips are great for helping me expand the range of notes I sound bad singing. Thanks Chris!

  • @robreid9741
    @robreid9741 2 года назад

    Chris ............ I love your passion for singing. I love how you explained the compression idea and explained that you were tired in your abdomen area afterwords. I feel that this idea alone is sooooo good. After 50 years of singing, this key has opened a whole new world to me, a Baritone!! Yay! God bless you Chris!!

  • @Paulnap
    @Paulnap 2 года назад +5

    Wow Ian Thornley has some cornell-esque chops

    • @briansullivan3424
      @briansullivan3424 2 года назад

      Yeah, I'm not super familiar with his voice... after seeing him in this video though, and being a life-long Cornell fan, I'm gonna need to check out more Big Wreck... wow!

  • @josea.salinas6784
    @josea.salinas6784 2 года назад +5

    every second from this video would be considered as pure gold

  • @RockAlongRecords
    @RockAlongRecords 9 месяцев назад +1

    ur a champion in explaining things and have a killer voice….i’ve seen many of ur videos recently and THIS has made me start ur free course today!!!! i want a higher range. can’t wait to start a one on one soon. cheers mate!!!!

  • @j.dtruths5577
    @j.dtruths5577 2 года назад +2

    You are a fabulous teacher and a Great singer ! I’m a baritone as well, huge Cornell fan! Thank you ! J… Toronto

  • @matteobertani9447
    @matteobertani9447 2 года назад +3

    Amazing. Beautiful. And Ian Fletcher Thornley is a phenomenal singer.

  • @sonoftyme9789
    @sonoftyme9789 2 года назад +7

    Dude. So glad you used Albatross as an example, Ian is such an underrated vocal ASSASSIN. Also, killer job on superunknown, really captivating!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +4

      Thanks! Ya I wanna do more on Ian for sure!

    • @standandeliver8376
      @standandeliver8376 2 года назад

      For a moment there I thought you meant Albatross by Fleetwood Mac. I can nail the vocals on that one every time.

  • @steveallat6117
    @steveallat6117 Год назад +1

    Ian Thornley is my favourite vocalist, and just by watching him and singing along I have learned a lot of what you are talking about in this video. Great to run across your channel and hear YOU also sing and hit all the notes similarly to him . . . and hopefully soon I will, too. : ))

  • @jordanheyvaert6204
    @jordanheyvaert6204 2 года назад +1

    You explained that so well! I never understood how some of these singers that sing high notes are really baritones that are just using mixed voice. Well said, Chris.

  • @BradCross1982
    @BradCross1982 2 года назад +3

    Love your channel man 🤘🏽

  • @nicolasignaciodiazcastro2036
    @nicolasignaciodiazcastro2036 2 года назад +20

    awesome video Chris, I'm a tenor and I'm in love with Cornell, my mixed voice is not as beefy as a baritone, would be nice if you make a video for tenors, how to sound more beefy and "masculine" for lack of a better word
    Greetings from chile

    • @Oliver-ek2nl
      @Oliver-ek2nl 2 года назад +3

      I believe he already has a few videos on that subject, just check his channel

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +6

      Thanks for watching Nicolas! Yes, I have a few videos on how to beef up your mix!

  • @apehands4481
    @apehands4481 2 года назад +2

    RUclips recommended your video, instant sub. Great coaching and killer voice man! Can’t wait to see more.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching and for the sub!

  • @MCLemonyfresh
    @MCLemonyfresh 2 года назад +1

    Wow you have no idea how much this helped me change my state of mind. I’ve always felt boxed in and excluded from the majority of pop and rock music because of my “limited” baritone range. But dammit, I’m gonna get up there thanks in part to you!

  • @bongothewonderchimp
    @bongothewonderchimp 2 года назад +47

    As a baritone who as always envied the top register notes of tenors this video is a God's send! Chris you are an inspiration and an incredibly good teacher. My question is we often see rock singers who employ the head voice (falsetto) a lot, lose that upper range with age, or their tone becomes damaged sounding. For example Robert Plant, or Brian Johnson. Is this inevitable, or could it be they were not employing good technique?

    • @Laking86er
      @Laking86er 2 года назад +3

      Man, Thornley is getting up there in age (49) and is arguably better than ever - ask that dude Haha. Big wreck live is incredible!

    • @melodica5407
      @melodica5407 2 года назад +3

      Actually i as a tenor prefer baritone voice.
      Their mixed voice sounds thicker.

    • @jarrodcarter1466
      @jarrodcarter1466 2 года назад +1

      seems that the voice goes as you stop using it all the time

    • @somekindofdude1130
      @somekindofdude1130 2 года назад +1

      Male head voice is a mixed voice not falsetto. Falsetto is what chest fry is to the chest voice, a sub-category for extreme registers. Most "tenors" use head voice in rock this is why they sound so thick and/or chest (ex Dio)

    • @patrickparmer1648
      @patrickparmer1648 2 года назад +1

      A fellow Patrick haha

  • @MickeyBean
    @MickeyBean 2 года назад +7

    Dude, I’ve seen Big Wreck live 15+ times in my life and I’m blown away every time. Ian Thornley is a fucking GOD.

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +3

      It’s TRUE! they are impeccable live

    • @AUTOSAD777
      @AUTOSAD777 2 года назад

      I third that. Perfect set they had when I saw them. Perfect. Unreal.

    • @encryptor6710
      @encryptor6710 2 года назад

      That is one of my life goals is to see them live at least once. They mainly tour Canada though.

    • @chaseclarkemusic
      @chaseclarkemusic 2 года назад

      Going to see them soon, I'm pumped

  • @ArmaganAydngul
    @ArmaganAydngul 2 года назад +1

    Omg Chris! I love it when you hit the high notes man!!

  • @MulveysMooney
    @MulveysMooney 2 года назад

    Excellent lesson Chris!! You are a great teacher and express your explanations and ideas perfectly. This baritone is inspired. Thanks!

  • @NeXusZT
    @NeXusZT 2 года назад +34

    I've had the pleasure of seeing Big Wreck (Ian Thornley) live when he was promoting their album Albatross and his live vocals are absolutely chilling. The control in his voice is unbelievable. His light rasp throughout his range adds such amazing texture to his tone. I would love to see a break down of a big wreck song like you've done in the past. I think a lot of people would learn a lot from it. Cheers!

    • @6BURG9
      @6BURG9 2 года назад +1

      Also a phenomenal guitarist. The guy is one of a kind.

    • @chrishenderson420
      @chrishenderson420 2 года назад

      Seen them twice now, and my favorite concerts by far.

    • @CarlosLiberated
      @CarlosLiberated Год назад

      Yeah, the world’s best rock singer and world’s best rock guitarist is the same dude. It’s unfair. Also probably in the top 10 rock songwriters.

  • @SkilledTadpole
    @SkilledTadpole 2 года назад +1

    Your videos have really helped me with my range, but I still really want to get into your lessons to get the regular, CORRECT practice 😁 thanks for all that you do!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      Looking forward to working with you in a deeper level!

  • @AeponViroth
    @AeponViroth 2 года назад +1

    Quality content, as usual. This one was something I needed to hear :) Thanks Chris!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      I’m glad it met you where you’re at!

  • @flyingdart9819
    @flyingdart9819 2 года назад +11

    00:22 Vsauce theme starts playing

  • @encryptor6710
    @encryptor6710 2 года назад +2

    Its nice to see Big Wreck getting some love!

  • @josephl6727
    @josephl6727 8 месяцев назад +1

    What a beautiful vocal take!🎉🎉 I was curious about this. Thanks for shedding some light on that. My son loves Cars.😂

  • @darylkenny4562
    @darylkenny4562 2 года назад

    This is great Chris. I’ve been following you for about 2 years now and have learned a ton. I’m a baritone and have used the mix to develop my upper register, which has come along quite well, with my highest note being a d5. The biggest area of challenge though isn’t the highest notes in my range, they’re actually fairly easy. It’s actually the ones in the middle close to the break, especially if I am trying to sing something less belty and take some of the power out of it.
    I idolize the legendary Roy Orbison, who was an absolute master with his mix and upper register (also a baritone naturally btw), but what amazes me is how he could do it so softly or make such a seamless transition that you could barely perceive the change. I’ve been working at it for a couple years now and sometimes I can do it and sometimes I don’t quite get the coordination right and it will break into my chest voice. Perhaps you could do a video in the same vein as this one but where the singer isn’t belting the mix. That would be supremely helpful.

  • @smash_adams
    @smash_adams 2 года назад +6

    I'm more of a low tenor so not quite a baritone but a lot of this advice is good for me too. I always thought I should be able to hit the higher tenor notes, seeing as that should be my range, but it's always been a strain to hit those Anthony Green, Sleeping With Sirens, Saosin, Dance Gavin Dance notes. Especially the ones up there. I just don't have that kind of sound and it can be discouraging. But I also don't have that warm baritone voice either. So I've always felt a bit unwanted as a vocalist.

  • @Aranya009
    @Aranya009 2 года назад +7

    Oh my god YESSS! I've been waiting for the longest time for you to touch on Ian Thornley! PLEASE do a full feature on him! Big Wreck and his singing voice are my go-to ideal vocal goals! Thank you for doing this, I've learned SO MUCH from your channel!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +3

      Oh I will! Thornley is amazing

  • @walmartluigi3352
    @walmartluigi3352 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely fan-bloody-tastic! A true genius at work!

  • @fabrizioparedes5866
    @fabrizioparedes5866 2 года назад +1

    My god, you have no idea how much confidence you've bring to my daily practice. Thank you Chris :)

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад

      Very Happy to hear that, Fabrizio! You're so welcome!

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids9415 2 года назад +24

    This was a fantastic lesson. I have a fairly low voice so I really appreciate the inspiration! Also, I’ve never heard Big Wreck before. Will definitely check them out! Thanks! See you for more!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +11

      Big Wreck is one of my favorite bands! Amazing catalog... Every album is stellar. Ian is an incredible vocalist and songwriter.

    • @shantylrogers9813
      @shantylrogers9813 2 года назад +1

      @@chrisliepe u really rock

    • @sharoncosby1945
      @sharoncosby1945 2 года назад +2

      Glad to see someone just finding Big Wreck!! You'll love em!

  • @RyanQuinn
    @RyanQuinn 2 года назад +22

    Hey Chris, my name's Ryan Quinn -- I'm a professional singer heavily influenced by the likes of Chris Cornell and Brad Delp. I really appreciate your videos, and this one in particular (being a baritone that often sings songs beyond the "typical" baritone range). Thanks for articulating this concept so well! And by the way -- nice job with "Superunknown" at the beginning of the video!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +1

      Thank you!!

    • @chrisliepe
      @chrisliepe  2 года назад +2

      Just checked out your channel... Awesome performance on The Voice man!! And your other stuff is top notch! Would you be interested in connecting for a conversation? You can email me at info@mymusicalvoice.com if you're interested... I've got an idea :)

    • @RyanQuinn
      @RyanQuinn 2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much, man - that sounds great! I absolutely will do!

    • @jergervasi3331
      @jergervasi3331 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, that was awesome. I'm a baritone in the same boat... I'm going to look further into Chris' lessons.

    • @jergervasi3331
      @jergervasi3331 2 года назад +1

      Ryan, just watched The Voice video. Gave me goosebumps. Adam's reaction was a great illustration of the art Chris describes here when he asks "Is that 2 people, or 1?"

  • @AndrewColyerMusic
    @AndrewColyerMusic 2 года назад

    DUDE you may have just changed my life with this video. THANK YOU so much for this REFRAME of what I might be able to do with my voice. 😀🎹🎶

  • @audibletapehiss3764
    @audibletapehiss3764 2 года назад

    Great video! I used to think I couldn't sing most of the songs I wanted to sing. But once I stopped trying to sing along with the recordings and match the phrasing of the original artists, I found that I naturally would adapt the placement and the timing of the vocal to my own instrument. And there was no more fatigue. I could take a lead vocal with my band and people liked that I sounded like me, not them. Sometimes I just need that extra moment to get under a phrase that somebody with a "higher" voice just floats through. So I take it!

  • @ROOKTABULA
    @ROOKTABULA 2 года назад +2

    I've stood and listened to Thornley from 3 to 25 feet away on 3 occasions since 98.
    He is a monster of a vocalist AND a player.

  • @tony.kmullinsstudio818
    @tony.kmullinsstudio818 Год назад +3

    I'm of the opinion that Ian Thornley is one of the most underrated singers in existence. His live performance of "That Song" at the Suhr Factory Party is on another level ("and when you're hay-yaY-YAY-TEEEEEEDDDDDD!!"..... Just incredible). When I think about improving my voice, his is the model voice I push toward. There a lot of power and tone in everything he does. "Knee Deep" is another that he just does unnatural vocal stuff on.

  • @alancummings5651
    @alancummings5651 Год назад +1

    The best I’ve seen for vocal teaching

  • @xylotheoriginal9497
    @xylotheoriginal9497 2 года назад +1

    YOU ARE A GIFTED TEACHER
    AND
    SUPERBLY NATURAL VOICEST