Danny Cipriani Talks About Caroline Flack and Russell Brand Being 'Attacked' By Media
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by former rugby player Danny Cipriani for an eye-opening interview in which Danny opens up about how the media and social media can often go after people amidst allegations and controversy such as in the cases of Russell Brand, Caroline Flack and Phillip Schofield.
Danny explains that the media involvement and reporting on such sensitive issues such as his ex-girlfriend Caroline Flack's trial for domestic abuse creates a lot of pressure on the individual before a judicial verdict has even been reached.
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Irrespective of whether you love or loathe Russell Brand, whether you deem him guilty or innocent, like all of us (supposedly!) he is perfectly entitled to fair due legal process and should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise. THAT he is not getting.
I am under NO obligation to presume him anything thats the state. And thats exactly what he is or he would be in jail. Anyone else is free to make their own mind up ,rightly or wrongly, on their own research on the situation.
I agree.
Russel Brand is being attacked by the media now due to the fact that in the last couple of years he has been pointing out the corruption in the US and UK government/institutions and powerful corporations such as Monsanto, Pfizer, and BlackRock, companies which are major shareholders/owners of said media companies.
Funny how selective people can be. There was no one defending Prince Andrew's rights when he was being targeted. He wasn't even accused of grape either. Everyone likes Russell so he gets a different treatment.
@@bennym5244 ruclips.net/video/vs1McKtclRY/видео.html&ab_channel=AndrewGold Maybe you aren't aware of this. But also ..wake up!
mike tyson literally went prison for R.. he hasn't been demonetised but I guess he doesn't talk about Ukraine
Yeah but look Katie Hopkins she said lots of things in the media about the government, migration, UK, Ukraine, Los of talk and nobody say anything to her why they targeted Russell? Trying to shut up him .?
0:17: 🏉 Danny Cipriani, one of England's greatest rugby talents, opens up about his challenges with addictions and relationships in his new book.
2:12: 😔 The speaker discusses their experience of facing judgment and criticism in the media, similar to Russell Brand's current situation.
4:22: 💬 The media's judgment and critique of individuals involved in cases like Caroline Flack's puts them under pressure, but we should wait for the judicial process to unfold.
6:29: 😔 The speaker discusses the negative impact of media and social media on a sensitive situation involving allegations and victims.
8:41: 📚 Danny Rose reflects on his life off the field and how he turned his pain into purpose.
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When is an allegation no longer an allegation? When the press says so.
Where does an allegation start?
A piece of shit human.
Great interview. Wise and compassionate. Sadly two very rare things in this media world. Thank you.
Really feel for his pregnant wife right now. This whole situation is so unfair. He struggles with his mental health and addiction, all of this hate and accusations could send him over the edge! I hope whoever is telling the truth gets justice but it isn’t fair for anyone to have a trial by media and their whole life turned upside down. Let’s hope he doesn’t go down the same route as Caroline flack!
I really appreciate u mentioning Mental Health aspect. V few hve done. Ive tried to & offer same different voice 2 all this noise. Risk is real: push RB to Suicide. BBC protectively handled Huw Edwards...
Oh, god no…That would be BEYOND tragic. I can scarcely even think of it.
Given the evidence of what we've seen of him so far. People are entitled to decide that they think he's vile and sexually abusive. It's literally on camera. So yes, in that respect it is a trial by media. And he's guilty of being a complete scumbag.
The matrix won't care
@@roviannematovu3756He made the wrong choices for much of his life.
He had free will. Many people suffer difficult early years but do NOT go down a road where they harm others and leave a trail of destruction.
Everyone has to be adult and take responsibility for their actions.
Did he think he could act how he wanted (for YEARS) and never suffer any repercussions???
Please remember that some people suffer mental health issues despite being blameless.
When did the Media become law enforcement and judge?
When it's in the purview of a bunch of right-wing monsters with God Complexes, such as Rupert Murdoch.
He’s not been arrested or even accused with a warrant. Channel 4 was irresponsible doing an accusatory documentary without due process. Shame on them for doing this.
Innocent until proven guilty must be adhered too. Kevin Spacey, Benjamin Mendy and Cliff Richard were all exonerated but found guilty by the media before they even had a chance to defend themselves. Andrew Tate is another example that can be compared to this situation. We all know Brand had relations with a 16 year old when he was 26, this might be immoral to me but its not illegal and I see absolutely no evidence proving any rape or sexual assault has taken place. Its a discrace the women can even make allegations in the media anonymously but the times they turn out to be lies the little skanks walk free ? Anterior motives are at play here. Mexico releases evidence of Alien body's then all of a sudden the BIGGEST story is ALLEGATIONS against Brand. Smoke in mirrors !!!
This will more than likely turn him to hard drugs again, regardless of the outcome he will never fully recover. Its a disgrace and I stand with the man until proven guilty.
What "due process" do you refer to? Are you saying that investigative journalism has no role to play in society?
@@garethjones9605this is not investigative journalism, it’s purely an op-ed 😂
@@garethjones9605 due process means judgment in front of a jury of your peers, at least here in America.
Brand had a strong OTT tongue in cheek promiscuous comedy persona - he was performing all the time & was being rewarded handsomely for it & encouraged by all the agents, institutions (BBC, Channel 4, Endemol et al), PR, audiences…everyone was egging him on and rewarding him. He was also sick in his addictions & then recovering which is a difficult road to tread & especially when surrounded by the aforementioned encouraging his behaviour & comedy routines / sketches. Now, over a decade later he is still in recovery, clean and sober for over 20 years, living a clean & loving life with his wife & children, helping others find the redemption & recovery from addictions that he has found. And now, the very media, institutions & people that applauded & rewarded his comedy act & persona & sketches back then are the ones using the same sketches, comedy routines etc as evidence Brand has always been a ‘predator hiding in plain sight’. Disingenuous hypocrites. And it took The Times / Channel 4 four years of full time digging & encouraging women to ‘give them stories on Brand’ to come up with 4 accusers. I smell a rat and it’s not Brand.
I didn’t expect Danny to be so eloquent and nice, I wish him a future of success and happiness ❤
Have to say I am so proud of the support Russell is getting . The media are absolute scum
AMEN!!!
I’m so happy more people have realized this
More interviewers need to highlight that this is just a story to the media
It’s not proof of guilt
Well done to piers again for consistently highlighting this
Would the media take responsibility if Brand's wife has a miscarriage with the stress of all of this. Why could they not wait till she had the baby. .. cannot believe the stress that women will be under with this.
*SHE SHOULD'VE CHOOSE BETTER*
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No, why would they? It was him that was the sexual predator and a completely vulgar human being years ago. Don't shoot the messenger.
@@Ibanezguy2007Brand denies being a predator.
@@Ibanezguy2007so he’s definitely guilty?
Guilty of being a disgusting sexual predator, yes as that's what was plain for all to see. @@hansoloburger2322
Looks like a classic smear campaign. It just looks dodgy to me.
Channel 4 should be charged
The same feminists attacking Russel brand and already labelling him guilty are the same ones who was defending Caroline flack for getting with Harry styles when he was under 18 and assaulting her partner the absolute hypocrisy
Dont forget all the other women in hollywood that took advantage of men, like Olivia wilde being a director over harry styles and having an affair with him. She had power over him and was not me too'd.
Which feminist was that?
@@racs9606 all of them that have labelled Russel guilty already because they ‘ believe all women ‘
How can you be a sexual predator on women when they throw themselves at you?
They want it both ways
Its called misandry and hypergamy. Women will go through 304 phase and then blame men 12 years later. They knew what they were doing sleeping with promiscuous and addict.
By coercing them into sex. Who says these women were throwing rhemselves at him? He's admitted ro be the one throwing himself at women.
@@Ridersonthestorm8899oh shut up.
@@racs9606 you are not a person of the world. Obviously not had a problem with certain types of women. Lucky you.
Apparently 4 years of investigation to find 4 instances he has been accused. Over a period of time where he was drunk , drug fuelled mixing with like minded people. Doesn't seem like a litany of evil. I would also point the investigation was so thorough no one contacted him for a right to reply.
The media is completely out of control in this country. They all need reigning in. They’re acting like judge, jury and executioner.
Not raised at the time, during Sachsgate or even during Metoo movement? But does get raised after he upsets the powerful in establishment? Shades of Julian Assange again.
trial by social/ terrestrial media can never ever be a good thing.. too many people not happy till they get blood or worse..
So right, what the guest here says: If mainstreammedia did not create this story, social media would not judge about it!!!
This was a really great conversation. Props to both men
This might be one of the sanest, fairest conversations I've heard on this type of issue in a long time. I'm a lefty btw.
I'm left wing and this is the best conversation I've heard so far. I really feel for Russell and his family. He is having his entire life ruined before an official accusation has even been made yet these women get to carry on regardless anonymously.... appalling.
You all need to remember Brand is a recovering addict and that makes him vulnerable, also his wife is pregnant, its going to impact her. Can the media behave with some common decency for once. What's being put out is shameful.
How many years does need to recover??? He’s at 20/21 yrs sober already? Does he get a life time pass for vulnerability? Lol
Danny is a lovely guy. He looked after my son as a younger rugby player. He didn't have to but I believe that showed his true kind character.
If proven not guilty, what should happen to the mainstream media and everyone else regarding their position against him?
But let us not forget that we are watching the mainstream media directing this traversity of injustice on what are still allegations. Let us hope that this will be a turning point and that relations between the sexes and belief in a fair and transparent society (given Brand's other roles) are not irreperably damaged.
Thats exactly what i think channel 4 and the newspaper should of taken thier evidence to the police.
Once thier prey was charged and appearing in court then print or air thier triumph.
If you are for human rights then trial by media for anyone is against human rights. Women who use the media in this way should be named but if they go to the police then they can have their privacy protected and human rights protected. The media and these women should be prosecuted on breaches of human rights.
This is how we reward people who fight addiction and find purpose... shame them for what they did before they changed... so that no one will be inspired and motivated to do the same.
yes, rapists and sexual predators can cry me a river.
Reward people🤣😂🤣! No one twisted their arms to take drugs. It was their choice. They deserve no reward. Are you saying no ex drug addict should be convicted of a crime!
@@SuperEdge67 Iam saying there is NO CRIME yet. He hasn' t been reported to the police, never mind charged or found guilty. I'm saying wo.en who report a celebrity to a media channel 10 or 20 years after it happened (if it did) instead of going to the police should at least have the decency to face the camera, or alternatively, if they want anonimity... don' t go to a TV channel. You can' t have it both ways.
There is something seriously wrong with a society that can ruin a man's reputation before he's been found guilty through a legal process.
@@SuperEdge67 I am also saying that we send people to jail to prevent them from hurting more people and to rehabilitate them... so, if they have already rehabilitated themselves... what is the real purpose of jail at this point? Revenge? Retaliation?
Let me explain it in a different way, why I think that is wrong to report someone after 20 years (and by the way, it is usually celebrities who get reported after decades, no average Joe wakes up one morning 20 years after an assault and decides to go to the police).
I'm not the person I was 5, 10 and certainly not 20 years ago.
If I change, start helping people, become someone else... why lock me up now that I am no longer a threat to anyone?
And I think you don' t fully understand the concept of addiction... thankfully nor do I, fully, but I do have a degree in psychology which gave me some knowlege of biology and psychiatry.
It's not as straightforward as: I consciously decide to take drugs or drink or to have sex. If it were that easy,no one would be an addict, trust me.
There is childhood trauma and genetic predisposition which makes people vulnerable to addiction. But It's too comicated to go into it here.
@@Ibanezguy2007 ease my reply to the comment above. P.s. rapists are people who have been convicted by a court of law.
Men are so ashmaed these days - meanwhile women can have their own pxrn site and call it a career and that they have 'fans'.
And let's not forget Amy Winehouse... the only one who stood up for her was Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber
Who did she rape
Danny seems very REAL. Who of us that has not lived where we are often vulnerable to our weakness, and has not had these quite crippling dilemmas?
The media and social media are clearly anathema.
I suppose that (badly) I don't have a great deal of time for those guys who live thoroughly abusive lives and then hide behind a newly found domestic bliss (prob because they have EDS) but I have to give credit to those who truly want to live differently.
Piers shows his true colours, he clearly thinks that he MSM are the only ones entitled to have opinions. I’m betting he’s happy with the new online bill. He says “Social media is a bigger problem because everyone has an opinion and they all are incredibly judgmental…there are no limitations on what they can say. They can say what they like. A lot of it totally inaccurate.” That’s a rather rich statement coming from him given the amount of misinformation and hate that he spread towards the unvaccinated throughout covid. Cipriani was the level headed adult at this table.
its another benjamin mendy situation . just some women wanting a quick buck . 100% it will be settled out of court and brand will be cancelled . mission accomplished by the higher powers
I just hope brand has the receipts/witnesses
Great interview,,I dont know your guest but I am happy he has found peace.
By the sounds of it, most of RB’s women seem to be having buyers remorse. They were adults who then got pissed off that he didn’t form a long term relationship. How on earth is this illegal or a power play?
This is a very valid thought. Many MANY women saw him as a huge trophy to be on his arm, especially in the early 2000s. Women were jealous and catty to his latest girlfriends. He was a GOD
@@googlestinx this is so true 👏👏👏
rape is rape boys 😢
I have daughters and your sentiment is 100% true. But from the stories these 'victims' are telling us, they went to his room willingly. And they engaged in sexual activity because of who he was. So let's stop with this rape nonsense. In addition to that, he hasn't been taken to court. So it's not rape until he's proven guilty in a court of law. Or would you prefer a public poll or the media to decide? @@kc-qs8qg
Piers 'I'll milk anything' Morgan. ""It maybe in Russell Brands case that it is throughly deserved and it turns out to be this vile sexual predator...."" I mean if it is then he deserves a prize for the worlds best actor / con-artist / narcissistic psychopath to have walked the earth !!! So no I doubt it. We know why this is happening, it's to silence him. End of. Everything else is a charade and of course a very emotional one as they work the best. And Piers Morgan is certainly no arbiter of morality like the rest of the media's 'souls for sale' who allow this nonsense to go on through their 'did he / didn't he' ad-revenue, attention grabbing pantomime.
Brand trades in controversy on his channel
I think this is backfiring on the Times and Channel 4. I’ve definitely read more comments supporting Russell Brand than not.
‘The Streisand Effect’ has been activated 😂
nice one Piers.
Apparently Channel 4 contacted a girl about Brand, she said that he was a nice guy... so they didn' t include her account into the documentary! How many girls did they contact who gave a different account and who were not included in the channel 4 exposé?
Piers Morgan loves talking about all this stuff(Brand.. can't stop talking about him). and claims he is sitting on the fence. Most people who sit on the fence don't give a hoot and keep quiet. But Morgan keeps on banging on about due process etc etc and not being judged by the media.. when he is the one dragging them through the media.. alleging he is sitting on the fence. He's part of the problem.
And you watched it, and commented on the channel. That makes you part of the problem.
And yet 6 months later Russell still not arrested no woman has come forward with poof. These women should be investigated channel 4 should be investigated.
How can it be proved, because it comes down to who you believe and which camp you are in.
So Piers Fave player was a Spurs hero: Gazza
There is a word for this, it's called fascism. Good on you both for this.
Would be funny if some women come out accusing Piers . Wonder how he would feel ? Karma can be nasty
“Karma” has not been scientifically proven. Let’s stick to the facts ey? Piers being accused is your fantasy
I like how woman cry "slut shaming" but it seems like its men these days who are being shamed for being promiscuous
I've lost count of the number of men who's lives have been destroyed by women because they couldn't keep it in their knickers but no one ever puts that story out do they?
You’re not making sense.
For the first time ever, the British parliament is asking us companies to do something completely against the constitution and why?? Don't het that part you can not deny any U.S. citizen l8ve liberty or property including income without due process of law.
Danny seems like a Top Guy
When this story broke about Russell Brand and then the world and its son turned against him I was concerned that this continuous onslaught of calling him a rapist etc would send him hurtling into a black hole. Brand has been known in the past to suffer from anxiety and self-harming and I believe his frame of mind turned him to drugs. No one has learned anything from what happened to Caroline Flack who was bombarded with vile, nasty comments from the keyboard warriors and of course the media, dont forget she was never actually convicted of a crime before hanging herself. Do we want to see Russell Brand go the same way? If he is guilty of these allegations, let the court decide. The police must thoroughly investigate the allegations and if there is a case where they are able to charge Brand, so be it, but stop with the lynch mob approach.
what a lovely man
Flack should never have been in the media, she was ill.
She attacked her boyfriend with a heavy lamp while he was sleeping and had been violent to a previous BF. If a man had done it people would be saying he deserves to die and good riddance .
Why is she different ?
what an incredibly talented player
You know what the difference is between a man who's a sex addict and a man who isn't- available options.
He is innocent until proven guilty just let the man live in peace
Russell Brand is innocent. I stand with RB
You don`t stand with him. You have only seen him on screen. You are in a parasocial relationship. It is not real. This is the problem.
Innocent ...until proven guilty
@@larsjorgan7964 are you thinking a bit.. too literal? I find that's the problem usually.
@@Lmwpitt that's the way these thing usual go yes. Innocent until proven guilty.
The Times took down Julian Assange in the exact same way for exactly the same false reasons.
@@miapulchritudinous9791why jump to a conclusion, why not remain neutral until it is resolved in court?
Why are you willing to assume all the allegations are false, when you know nothing about Russell Brand? He's not your mate, you don't have a close relationship with him, you have no idea what he is or is not capable of. This tribal thinking is ridiculous. 😂😂
Both these men could have been so much more had they been able to control their passions.
Perhaps The RS PCA should prosecute brand for kicking his dog down stairs as booky wook
Judges have their work cut out. As META, Twitter X & TikTok react so metaphorically, Russell didnt stand a chance. We all kmow he was or is a disconnected individual, he has a settled family & this is the hardest part. If the information is so bad, get it out, ASAP!
#3RUSSELLBRAND
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Cipriani was a fekking chopper. Flack was a domestic violence perpetrator and couldn’t face the music
A man over 6ft tall
this is nothing but a stitch up , Channel 4 have known and been talking to Z women for YEARS coercing them into a story ,and now Parliament emailing Rumble to shut him down shows EXACTLY what is going on here and I hope they pay hard for it
Does piers think he's safe from this.
What I find hilarious is the the people who wanted Philip Schofield's blood are now rabidly defending Russel Brand and calling it "trial by media".
Whatever happened to be kind x
I feel sorry for brand. He's been stripped of his media income and his dignity. Yet Morgan is cashing in on Brands misfortune
Brand’s income is being ‘held’ by RUclips in a fund. If innocent, Brand will receive it. Morgan is getting paid to entertain. Like Brand and every other influencer.
Bear in mind he’s worth 10s of millions of pounds. This isn’t to say I agree with how he’s been demonetised.
Piers wanting to close down social media? Due process should have been a police investigation BEFORE releasing information to the public, but of course, if there’s no wrong doing, there’s no story and papers not bought..
Shame…..its a trial by media
And that documentary should not have been aired. It’s not just.
JusticeforRussellBrand
Remember when Danny Cipriani was relevant? No me neither, mid 2000s?
Pierce has attacked him too by saying the article is greatly written but it was mostly hearsay talking about what they heard lmao smh yall are all sick
Isn't every man a bit of a "sex addict"?
Start with Mohammed and then his followers
Every*one* is a sex addict at that age... Magaluf, Ayia Napa, etc...
"Streets like a jungle
So call the police..."
@@westtxmuttHa yeah there was someone to take inspiration from(!)
@@user-lo6fd8hn8l I guess. But the problem then isn't being hyper-sexual. The problem is not exercising restraint. But I guess you got my original intention, which was to make a light comment. Every time I read about these poor fellas who claim to be sex addicted, I have to chuckle.
The only thing you left out was the allegations raised by Tara Reade.
Tell more?
Question. Is there really such a thing as a sex addict? Or is it Lack of self control. Why are young people so wracked with mental trauma these days and public self flagellation?
The people in power have done all this Russell is a great man and it will all come out
he's a sexual predator just take a look at his disgusting videos no man should be taking there pants down and spreading the womans lags open and sitting on them you can clearly see the woman didn't want him to do that she was pushing him away that was live on TV disgusting excuse of a human
There speaks a guy who's spent a lot of his money of very expensive therapy sessions.
With Russell we stand.
British media is disgusting and he said it.
This is shocking when he's come along way to better himself and settled now. His poor family ,so he must be feeling terrible ,when he's been accused of something years ago . He needs good lawyers and he'll surely be given the chance to stand up for himself. The main stream media did this and then the police and this feels wrong . People lives that should have been told years ago. I'm sorry for any woman but not if this is made up to destroy someone. Feel that Russell brand is being played to shut him up
So Piers is saying SoMe is The worst? He is on RUclips and Twitter he is Mr SoMe!!! SoMe people debate what they see/read in the media (news)
...really 2 days straight of almost non-stop coverage on Piers? nothing else newsworthy ? You can already tell that discussion on this topic is irrelevant as the stories and viewpoints that people bring out in interviews are being copy-pasted. almost verbatim.
Piers 'I'll milk anything' Morgan.
Some kind of pain😂 these celebrities always come out with some sort of crap
Boycott channel 4!
Jeez, not more pointless speculation, opinions and soundbites. What a waste of time.
EVIDENCE is what's needed.
Why is social media the main problem ?
Sureley Dispaches started this .
Piers has no logic .
Double standards make me sick, hew edwards, got kinky kicks with young men, perfectly legal and all consenting adults but he got vilified to the point of him having a mental break down. But no, our hero Russel brand and Andrew Tate couldn’t possibly have done something like that. It’s a conspiracy😂😂
If you are in the spotlight you sign a contract with the devil. Paragraph 4b states: ‘If you sleep with thousands of women and are accused of wrongs you accept you may be tried in the court of public opinion.’
Indeed, and if you choose to shamelessly sh*g your way through literally several thousands of women all too ready to drop 'em and spread 'em for you , there obviously comes a point where you cannot remember the names, let alone the numerous dubious occurrences.
Interesting Whitgift accent.
We need to keep talking about Ms Flack. I heard her mum on LBC the other week and she's still battling the MET for its shoddy evidence gathering and treatment of Caroline. I remember Caroline from TMI. I enjoyed Caroline. Her performance on Strictly Come Dancing to Angels is breathtaking ❤
She assaulted someone then fought with police when they arrived. You can't blame the police for her actions!
@@mrn8645 oh my god! Do your research before you comment. She assaulted no one but herself!
@@harryphilby2 - She asaulted her boyfriend, fought with police and the deluded still deny it! The police should release the bodycam footage.
Not another victim book
Well you can say what you like until you can’t. I said nothing bad just voicing my opinion on here….I felt people who don’t watch RBs show didn’t have the whole story. I had my comments shut off for 24 hours as spam. I spammed nothing and commented on channels like yours and many others and was shut down. That’s wack. I hope yt doesn’t keep on down this road or I will loss access to many channels I love but only access here.
He has been exploited himself! The tv producers dont give a shit they will push encourange and allow anything for views.
Poor cipriani 's career is ruined ! So sad!
Why not interview his many sexual conquests and get a character reference from them,if 99 percent say he was a nice honourable guy people will then suspect the accusers as suspect.
witness the tawdry death throes of legacy M$M’s twitching cadaver
Damn, Caroline Flack dated everyone.
The Flack is back
I’m shocked he was with a 16 year old when he was 32, that’s not right,
FFS. The age of consent is 16.
That's just sick and perverted
@@StimParavanea girl 16 got pregnant and the man he is 41 nobody say anything to this guy and there are happy apparently so in this case they turn on Russell to shut him up
Mohammed married a 6 yrs old . Yet a billion people follow his teaching. 😂
If someone is responsible enough to get a license and drive a car, why wouldn't they be responsible enough to have consensual relationships with whomever they want?