I want to know why all these media outlets don’t give the same amount of air time to all the girls and women who are trafficked. The MSM only slammed The Sound of Freedom rather than digging deeper into the problems. Our society is obsessively focused on what a celebrity does. I guess it must be better for clicks.
Mainstream media are also responsible, mainstream media is breaking the story, mainstream media has done the investigation. So what’s your conspiracy theory?
Tbh this would have happened before social media too. The majority of humans since the dawn of time have the view "guilty until proven innocent" because they love to follow the crowd and engage in mob mentality Social media just exaggerated it because it made doing those things incredibly easy and without consequence. It's why people joking around with incredibly serious words like nonce and pedo has skyrocketed in society. Before social media people wouldn't use these words if they thought the person they were saying it to would attack them. Now they can just say it on an anonymous social media account However 20 years ago you'd still be sacked or at the very least be asked not to come into work during a trial of this nature so its not some new thing imo. Plus what was "normal" in the 90s nobody cared about. That's why people say The Inbetweeners, Bo Selecta, and Ali G are extremely offensive now. Everyone just laughed at them back then. Some still do because they haven't turned into snowflakes
By that logic, if someone committed a murder 10 years ago and did not do it again, they should not have to go to jail when they are found 100% guilty of the crime.
Yep. From mediocre comedian & junkie to left wing conspiracy nutter & grifter to far right "wellness" grifter. All the while growing his investment portfolio while bagging the elites. What an evolution.
This world is confusing these days, all this posturing about Russell Brand’s moral character while simultaneously giving platforms to men dressed as provocative women reading to kids about performing sexual acts. It’s messed up
Channel 4 has a tv show where you choose your date based on there genitals. Its called naked attraction. However they claim Brand in his underpants is inappropriate
feels like men are now getting punished for decisions women made decades ago but are now embarrassed that they made those decisions so they seek some redemption.
So you admit that as a 30yr old man it’s ok to pick up 16yr olds from high school and take them home and f them? What’s the difference between Epstein and brand? Only 1 year of age difference is just fine with you?
Quite utterly extraordinary. You get a guy who by Piers own words has been brutally honest - frank - open - transparent - telling interviewers his deepest most intimate thoughts and feelings - who has publicly documented his own life story from misogynist to what he ultimately became - in fact ACTUALLY - he didnt change at all..... He CONTINUED to tell the truth - He showed how he overcame sex addiction - alcohol abuse - and how he found wonderful ways to balance his life through yoga, meditation, breathing, cold water - etc. etc. etc. You have taken his truth and stabbed him in the back with it. This is "journalism" at its lowest point. Pure monetization of someone who cannot even defend themselves. I think however as all of these events occur - we are all doing what Russell brand tells us to do - we are staying AWAKE and we can see what is happening. I see you are not discussing his latest interview with Dr John Campbell ? C*v*d vaccines being issues to every American regardless of their age - the 400% increase in the cost of the moderna vaccine - The fact that Rishi Sunack is a major investor - that all his cronies are now top dogs at Moderna - That the UK has invested billions and billions of pounds into long term development of this vaccine through Moderna - The FACTS which are all publicly available yet dont get a mention on mainstream news - the same channels that then tell their audience that Russell Brand tells "baseless" (BBCs words) conspiracy theories. Well Piers - once upon a time - vaccine injury was a baseless theory - people who didnt want the vaccine were considered nutcases and ant establishment. You know what? I have learnt more about the world through conspiracy theory than I ever have done through Mainstream news. I actually find TRUTH. One last comment.... for anyone who thinks I am another nutcase. A top financier once said to me. "Richard - you want conspiracy theories? How many Londons are there?" Naturally I thought it was a joke. To this day - No matter HOW many people I have asked and it must be over 100 by this day - NOBODY has ever given me the right answer. Truth in plain sight - yet if I told you there are two - I would suggest 99% would tell me I am mad - and the 1% who know the truth - didnt learn it at school - or through the mainstream media.
When you say how many Londons are there what do you mean ? Like London Ontario ? Or demographics? Sorry Richard I don’t understand what you mean can you please explain? This was a great comment and I just felt compulsed to ask by what nature you meant you said you asked over 100 people and they didn’t know , I’ll be honest if you mean places there are a few in America I think a couple in Africa and South America but most people wouldn’t usually know the exact amount because I would presume a lot wouldn’t be big major cities maybe small towns that would have no relevance to anything I know there are loads of Manchesters and Chesterfields scattered about 😂
@@leonarddavies288 Hi! I am so glad you felt "compulsed" - I appreciate it! Its become the most wonderful party trick, lol. If anyone ever mocks conspiracy theory (IE knowing something they dont want to believe or havent bothered to make the effort to learn) I just tell them to name the two Londons. If they can't - it proves they have no right to mock what they dont already know :) Obviously we all went to school - We all took history and learned about..... Wait for it.... the great potato famine? The Boston Tea Party? The Industrial Revolution? These all stick in my mind during what were the most painful days of my life - school. So of course if there were TWO Londons in the UK we would all learn about it right? Especially if the details surrounding them are so unbelievably - incredibly significant to everyone who lives in the UK. But actually NO. The history of the two Londons is apparently so inconsequential that we are not educated about it at school and nor is it ever mentioned during our lifetimes it seems. OK so as I have eluded to - the answer is they are both in the UK. One however has its own government, mayor and police force; its own laws, flag and coat of arms Yep So the answer is there are TWO Londons - and when the Queen wants to visit - she has to be granted permission I believe? Just serarch "The Two Londons" or "are there two londons" on youtube and you should find some cool videos on the history and how it all became about. I would have found it interesting had they taught me at school - as I think you may find it too :) Thanks for not being mean to me.
You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories (and I don't) to understand that Article 6 of the Human Rights Act protects citizen's rights to a fair trial. And, that does not include via the media. I cannot stand him, and rarely listen to a thing he says. I blame GQ magazine and lad culture for most of his tripe. But that is not the point. There are reasons, historically, why people used to go to public executions. For the entertainment and not for the justice. People who think they have the right to freedom of expression, should realize some people intend to remove it, bit by bit.
This Brand bashing is appalling. They're all acting like he's guilty. How can we possibly know whether these accusations are true that happened twenty years ago?
The UK Parliament sent letters to RUclips and Rumble (possibly to other platforms and content creators) suggesting them in certain terms to de-platform and de-monetize Russell Brand. All that based on mere allegations. This is highly unethical. The UK Parliament behaves like a gangster, mafia-style attack. We need to question how this happens, not only why. Russell Brand is INNOCENT until proven guilty by a court of law, and anyone treating him otherwise is unethical and unprofessional.
He used to crawl toilets for sex and drugs in the 90's.... he may have changed BUT when he kissed that eugenicist Harari who wants us "useless eaters" to be culled, I lost all respect for him...
Like Bill Clinton. Is Clinton innocent until proven guilty? Clinton's victims were never going to have a chance. At least Brand's victims might have a chance.
Murray just diminished himself by dismissing Brands contributions. Sounded more like a jealous slam then an actual critic of the situation. If Brand was just a crazy Conspiracy Theorist they wouldn't have bothered trying to cancel him.
@@mdaddy775 The best way to get the answer is directly from the 'horse's mouth' by watching his political commentary shows for yourself: www.youtube.com/@RussellBrand
It's not about how good or bad he was, It's about the way the whole MSM collectively are trying to shut him up. Something he has said has hit the bull's eye.
Covid, Pfizer, Biden, Maui..... take your pick. He will always point out the red flags and he has over 6M followers now. He fully admitted to being a drug user and sex addict, and no doubt did terrible things. These msm mouthpieces hate him, that is clear.
Yeah, not a fan, but all this bs without a trial is pretty messed up and it seems the text from the documentary is actually about wearing a condom rather than r*pe.
It’s odd that these allegations weren’t brought up during the #MeToo campaign if Russell Brand has been acting this way since the early 2000s. Why now? Why did the media stay quiet until now?
cos during the metoo society was still expecting the bare minimum, like that someone who is making a serious accusation would do it publicly or at least would do it legally to police first , but not anymore, now it goes like "channel 4 says 1000 anonymous ppl have accused u of rape; guilty."
Anyone who calls Brand a conspiracy theorist simply hasn't listened to his podcast. He doesn't give opinions on the matters. He only gives the facts and provides other options of news than just the mainstream media, who we all know are heavily controlled.
Great point. The sheep will believe everything they are reading without doing any kind of research. As far as I can see there is nothing to stop him from continuing to do his channel. I don't imagine he is short of a few quid so he should continue to expose people and their activities in fact he has nothing to lose now so he can speak freely. I think too many people are suspicious of MSM now and their actions and I firmly believe they are completely responsible for people doubting anything they have to say. The same can be said for Politicians on all sides. Tell the truth about everything and not what suits your agenda, nobody cares about your agenda but people do care about the truth and in this day and age the truth is sadly lacking in all aspects of life.
@@sc00bydoo10 That's true - and there's a lot of reason to believe he is guilty - but of course it hasn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt - at least not yet.
He can personally relate with one and not the other. I was surprised how much he detests Russell but he is as far from a womanizer as possible. So…..🤷♂️
@@MGuitarZ77 Prob deep seeded jealousy sadly, Russel got with way more Women and although Murray is Gay he's probably desired many women. Hell most Gay men have a hard time not being promiscuous.
She says “I’m not an expert on Russell Brand…” Well, you seem to be going out of way to prove otherwise. My advice to you all is leave it to a court. If he has done anything wrong , let them decide. Then you can pile in. Has this country forgotten what slander means?
Glad you said that! I actually consider myself an Expert on Russell Brand. P.S. I seeing, right here, an ad with 2 men talking about 'ball hair." I find that offensive. Others will laugh and call it hilarious - hey if it is making money - let's face it - anything goes. Money is the evil, Not Russell Brand.
Also interesting that there’s no mention of him being an alcoholic and heroine addict during that time period. When it’s Hunter Biden’s bad behavior they can’t remind us enough times that he was “struggling with addiction” to excuse bad behavior.
It is amazing because I have come across so many damn predators.. bosses who forcibly tried to have sex with me.. harassed me.. and years of crap.. but because they aren’t famous nobody knows about these creeps but they are EVERYWHERE.. BUT, I suppose shedding light on what’s going on even if famous people are the ones in the spotlight, it makes it easier for VICTIMS EVERYWHERE to say something even though it won’t be front page news.. it sheds a light on CREEPS LIKE BRAND.. which he absolutely is.. so I suppose SHOWING THE WORLD WHATS going on might be a good thing and give victims some hope..
This entire panel tells you all you need to know about the MSM. They talk a good game, but eventually they bow their heads and take the knee. They need to be reminded of their conduct around poor Caroline Flack. They literally through her under the bus before the police got involved, and backed her into a corner. Innocent until proven guilty. Trial by media needs to be outlawed
I also think another point that all journalists are missing is that the public have simply don’t believe anything they say. They are all either left wing or right wing, and constantly spin stories and create narratives to suit their own agendas. It’s not that people don’t believe the accusers, we just don’t believe the media
Love how passionate the panelist are with regards to allegations towards RB, yet show little to no interest in a certain deceased philanthropist and an island list.
Isnt there a very famous BBC commentator that like groomed and raped a young boy? Have hardly heard a word about that. These people are all morally superior like we cant see what is really happening. The people are not as stupid as they think we are. Whoever is left that trusts any MSM is lost and/or has been living under a rock. This is ridiculous.
I love how passionate the so called Conservatives are with regards to the island list, yet show little to no interest in the fact that Russel Brand, while he was 31 years old, waited for the 16 year old girl to finish classes in school so they can have sex afterwards.
The 3 men are scared that if they do not disparage Brandt, they will have sexual accusations piled up against them as well (cowards) - that's how Western totalitarianism wors, and the woman just hasn't had good sex with an assertive man in her life
@@JAWS-dn8fm Is he though? He plays down Russell's innocence and then plays up the accusations as if Russell was wondering the street and threw women into an alleyway and did he way with them and walked off. All these stories end the say way. "We were in a consensual relationship. We had sex a few times before. He tried something more extreme (Still wonder how was this a shock to these women given he self advertised as a sex extremest before they even met) these women said no, or pushed him off and he stopped. In none of these stories he did not hold them in place till he finished. He did not beat them to submission, he did not tie them up. And it seems these women continued to see him after these nights in question. Why is no one asking these women if they felt so attacked, why did they stay on, why did they not go to the police and why are they going to journalists 10+ years after the fact?
@@gutz1981 Yes all questions that need to be asked. So though I agree all the why didn't they do XYZ and why this, and why that are valid points, however humans are not programmed computers to act and deal with everything the exact same way. Rapes have been proven when historical because many victims don't always come forward right away and sometimes never at all. Some are strong willed and go directly to the police. Everyone handles things different. So though I agree they are questionable things, it still doesn't mean the rapes didn't happen. No one knows and chances are probably never will do.
I believe you do not know how many book Douglas Murray has sold, or you have very large phone booths in your country. I believe he has stated a simple fact. R. B. is indeed famous but, for many people, completely unworthy of that fame. By the way: Hitler filled even bigger stadiums. Popularity is not synonymous with competence. @@BrenCford
Douglas has gone overboard here. Yes Russell’s behaviour during his youth and addiction was seriously questionable, but he’s matured and settled down. He speaks on issues that other people are afraid to mention. If he’s guilty then yes by all means punish him, but don’t throw him under the bus just yet.
These people were fine with Russel Brand 4 days ago. Now they're all outraged at his behaviour on TV and his book. I wonder why they never made their feelings about him clear before last week!
Frostrup thinks she can call him a sex predator because he called himself that. Since when does calling yourself something make you that thing? If he had said he was a Martian, would she believe that as well? Russell Brand is a comedian who often talks in a flippant, tongue in cheek style, and to dig through everything he has ever said now is ridiculous. But most of us know WHY this happening.
By that logic OJ simpson should still be getting endorsement deals. I'm not saying Russel is guilty or innocent but the justice system isn't flawless abd sometimes society has to react to it
The thing is, Murray isn’t a misogynist. Neither are Morgan (at the moment) or Peston. A lot of men are glad a man got that much ‘fresh c**t’ and vicariously wish him well in the vein hope they could be so successful.
What a bunch of vultures we have here against Brand. If he did what has been claimed, he should pay but these people dig up all they can to support their agenda.
Yep they do, that is usually what happens in court too. A person's character and past behaviour always come in, it helps the prosecution prove their case. If there was nothing there in the first place, nobody would be able to dig up anything to use against him, would they?
Well if it's inappropriate to joke/brag about it then cancel every musician, director, producer, actor, and pretty much every other public personality. Especially cancel every rapper and rock star.
@ mcwho3 it’s not about the behaviour- it’s about the power of the message to shake people’s confidence in the official narrative. If you’re guilty of that- you can be guilty of anything. Recall Julian Assange. Same formula.
its pretty wild to see how the media has fully turned on RB an he hasn't even stepped foot in court, let the man have his day in court defend himself before you try to fully ruin his life.....
Why should it even go to court... wasn't one consensual sex but the issue was over a condom? and four other are anonymous... did they try to fight him off? did he beat them into submission? were they hospitalized? were there witnesses? why did they want 8-17 years and why all now at once?... who found them and what were they offered?
he's never going to get a fair hearing and has already been found guilty. They won't let him get away or they will look stupid. The judiciary is part of the establishment that want him gone.
4th'd. Agreed! Ironically, I read Douglas' book 'War on the West' and was generally surprised how limited his scope was on the real implosion that the west is going under. At the time I actually thought Russell Brand could teach Murray a lot.
Brand has more followers than any of the media that are trying to cancel him. none of them have those numbers. Sounds like they dont want the competition.
Maybe that's because you expect things to be black and white, apparently, and "us" against "them". Once again, Douglas Murray proved his intellectual integrity here.
I thought the same. How can Douglas be so off on the content of RB podcast? Is it because Russell isn't right, because Douglas never listened to it, or because he can't move past the 'old' Russ of the 90s which I have to say I couldn't stand back then and many I know can't take that he's evolved from that. Russ is doing amazing work these days, awesome channel and reporting.
The problem with that women is she's comparing how the times were back in the early 2000s to todays times.. now everyone is offended and you can't say nothing, while back then people knew what a joke, sarcasm & banter was.
@@JaneA544the comedy is in the pompous highfalutin way he dresses up his sordid behaviour and general degeneracy. It doesn’t excuse his behaviour but he IS funny and witty with an uncommon facility with language, sorry but it’s true. Simultaneously he can also be terrible human being. He may even have genuinely changed..I don’t know
@@JaneA544as if no guy ever talks like that lol…. Lets face it, women want to be with famous men. It s always been the case, and everyone is acting shocked when this is said out loud
@@CustardSpace There is a huge difference between charges and accusations. Last I checked, he wasn't charged. Be careful to know what you're talking about.
@@CustardSpaceas you said above "to bring forth these charges" , "charges" not "accusations". are you a journalist or politician 😂. oh, and lastly you did not use the word "huge" never mind the word "huge" in bold. your lack of credibility is palpable...
I am a fan of Douglas Murray, but this is a prime example of political “group think” taking precedent over common sense. What on earth makes him think Brand wants to write for the Telegraph? 😂
The facts that have come out are not good and these facts come straight from BRAND.. so it’s not an opinion or can be misinterpreted.. People inside who have spoken to others already know how disgusting BRAND IS.. In 2013 DANNY MINOGUE interviewed BRAND and even just interviewing BRAND.. she described him after as a VILE PREDATOR because of the way he treated her.. DURING AN INTERVIEW which is pretty bad.. and Danny isn’t a drama Queen or someone who jumps on this crap.. so it must have been serious. Douglas KNOWS MORE than he can say.. and he has integrity and is a good dude.. and predators are DISGUSTING..
You've misunderstood the point he was making. He was saying that unlike The Guardian and The New Statesman and other openly left-wing media outlets who enthusiastically embraced Brand in the 00s as a sexually liberated counter-cultural icon, Brand has never received a welcome in right-wing media circles to the same degree, and he contrasted it with the consistent unwillingness of major conservative newspapers to go near him. He was pointing out the lack of responsibility that is being taken by the same media outlets who helped promote his profile and inflate his ego a decade ago now turning round and saying how shocking it all is now the allegations have come out. Whether they like it or not they may very well end up being proven partial to a modern day Savile-like scandal with Brand, turning a blind-eye to his failings because he was "one of them", and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
Murray is a great writer and thinker, but he's missed the point entirely re: Brand's whole positioning. Russell has been an anti-establishment voice within independent journalism for a number of years now; his whole appeal centres around being considerably less partisan to the media behemoth. Therefore, why on earth would an establishment paper like the Telegraph want him writing for them? And why would he choose to write for them? I see this again as a battle between the dying legacy media (of which Piers is one-foot-in, one-foot-out) and independent voices, which are always going to pose a threat to more curated forms of media that serve a particular narrative or political agenda. The more these independent voices grow in popularity, the bigger the existential threat to old-time legacy media, and the greater the incentive the latter have for squashing such voices. The media machine cannot tolerate decentralisation; it runs counter to its entire raison-d'être. But decentralisation is the inevitable future. There is no conceivable way in which things could turn out differently.
People who are awake and are seeking the truth, call him Gutless Murray. He’s so gutless, he’s always speaking negative about people, who aren’t there on the panel or podcast, to defend themselves. That’s a coward right there!
Really disappointed at Douglas Murray on this - he clearly hasn't been watching Brand for the last few years. Gross though Brand's past has been, I think he's a changed man, and his political analysis has become astute and well worth hearing.
Maybe his opinion is just different than yours. I’ve never thought Brand was an intellectual figure, but that’s my opinion, and this is a talk show; talking includes opinions.
Ultimately Murray while having a lot of good takes and clearly being witty/educated, he does have some notable prejudices. I came aware of this from his coverage and opinions on Irish history which while fairly balanced in places over time became very loyalist. He's anti woke sure but he's also very pro establishment. Also Russell Brand is not "right wing", again even watching one video would make that obvious
Grow the hell up. Brand is a somewhat charming grifter - everything is an act, always has been by him (and I’m from the U.K. and listened to him in the early xfm radio days in 2001/2002, he was just hungry for fame at any way he could achieve it) - and now he identified an income based around the whole IDW milieu led by Joe Rogan at the beginning (and I like Joe), and propagated that even further. He’s started his own ersatz religion where he’s the messiah, the elder, the unquestioned one.. and you’re all his sheep and flock. It’s a grift in plain sight. A cult of conspiracy and pseudoscience and faux-numinous nonsense and spirituality. He’s not one shred of evidence, or education, or training to pertain to most of what he says - unlike, another semi-charlatan he hangs with - Jordan Peterson. At least there was a bedrock of a scientific mind there, once upon a time. Hearing his obfuscations when asked a direct question on religion infuriates me.
@@dinobotpwnz "Thinking people are never on a team." Murray is thinking? All he does is parrot idiotic talking points that he hears from Neocons... Murray is literally a definition of a dollar store UK Neocon. All he does is talk about how amazing Western values and how bad people who don't agree with them are but when you press on him to define "western values" he will showcase just how abstract and vague these things are to him... just buzzwords he uses as post-hoc justifications for his bigotry. If white person says edgy things about women and gays Murray will say its just a joke bro the "intolerant left" is at it again... but when Muslim says the same he explodes. Apply your standards consistently... its not that hard... Neocons will always use the "Western superiority" when it suits them and "Western degeneracy and deep state woke cultural marxism" when it suits them however both statements cant be true at the same time one of them or both of them are a lie.
These 4 telentless vultures salary depend on it LOL they couldn't make a living without the UK government's handouts, and a few oligarchs ; All of which get theirs from Ukkrraine and from the plaandeemic ; In that sense, they are fighting Brand to protect their owner's revenues and their salaries. Almost natural LOL MSM media must go away, and no more public funding.
@@christopherwilliams2852Here we go, the cancelling…….there would be no one left if you stop supporting someone every time they offend you. Times change attitudes.
It amazes me that as soon as a story breaks like this, every Tom, Dick and Harry comes out from the media world and says 'I've always thought this about him' 'everyone think he's some sort of great thinker' 'he appeals to the young people' The only fact of the matter is.... as soon as someone says things that the mainstream doesn't like, they all gang up and try their best to bury that person, dragging up things from years ago. Finding quotes that could be deemed threatening and misogynistic. No objectiveness at all!!!! Brand isn't a conspiracy theorist. He's someone who doesn't believe in the establishments (goverment, media etc) and he's bloody right too.
The level of gaslighting on all these news feeds is there to see, those that have a dislike of him like Douglas just can't contain their feelings of disdain.
@noelward8047 his comment to another lady different subject. You haven't even got a career or words to that effect. Put me right off him He was a disappointment on this debate I agree
I cannot agree. I could never understand the interest in a person such as R. B. He's interviews always felt so disgusting and vain to me that I was never able to finish one to the end. I honestly see no competence or reason to listen to R. B. for more than 10 seconds. I respect those who do, in light of the freedom we all have to pursuit legal interests, but I cannot understand those people. R. B. is a toxic, ignorant, boastful, arrogant, egocentric, nobody. An influencer. Good luck to him. I hope he has a fair trial. I respect his right to innocence until proven guilty, but I fully share Douglas Murray's opinion.
Cherry picking things Russel Brand has said or done 15 years after the time and completely undermining and neglecting everything he’s been doing and saying for the past few years is pathetic. Shame on these people. Guilty until proven innocent is a bad policy, but we’ve seen this nonsense for years now, just as we’ve seen the attack on comedians and independent journalists. It’s nothing new, it just convinces me that Brand has touched too many establishment nerves and now they’re trying to make him pay the price
Well, the only problem is that every political side does it and has been doing it forever. I doubt it will stop anytime soon. The same people that say it is bad will turn around and do the same thing to the people they dislike in another comment section
It’s very shameful that these so called journalists didn’t spend some time reporting and discussing the huge amount of grooming gangs in this country, instead spending so much time on individual cases. As for Peston the guy who’s famous for not asking important relevant questions during Covid,
Exactly, that was also what I was wondering. Because if the resources for investigation that were used for this case, we're used for something much more important. They would probably get also very, very damning results. But that's a much more dangerous enemy to investigate rather than the gentleman here mentioned.
@@pronoun_dilemma Stop the hypocrisy. This is something that could send most nations of the world back to the middle ages of absolute government power. If the government can pay anyone in someone's past to say consensual sex was not and get the person defamed, it's game over for activists, political opponents and more. The Western nation have already corrupted the culture of most nations with free sex and promiscuity, so it's going to be easy to get people to falsely accuse and get paid. It's a dangerous practice for the world at large. If nations with a corrupt press catch up with this game then it's over for humanity. Thats why people should be left and encouraged to seek veagence, not coerced into doing so. Human beings can easily abuse anything and turn a good cause into a political weapon. So, it's common sense to have limitations that prevent it. Stop thinking with your heart. Use your brain. If you're a woman, be certain that it'll get to you too at some point. So stop being selfish.
@@pronoun_dilemma Try to understand my point. Many things classified as being confident and flirtatious then, are now considered as crimes or assault. You can't judge the past with modern standards. It's simply stupid. Just imagine if age of consent is raised to 25 tommorrow, then people that had consensual sex 10 years ago start coming out. Will that make sense and be fair? No. Any adult with a brain knows that many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv. His books were published without a problem. Don't be a hypocrite.
@@Noob-zi2ce I understand your point. Not sure why you explained it as a reply to my comment where I only mentioned rape. It comes across like you're defending rape. "many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv" Many, but not all???
@@pronoun_dilemma I should be the one asking you why you put rape below my comment if you're not pre judging that Brand did that. That clearly didn't show up in my comment because there's no evidence that he forced or coerced anyone into sex. I was just telling you about the hypocrisy of the media....and of course the definition of rape have never been the same go and check. I believe most laws have updated their definition of rape. For example we have some nations where a woman can't be indicted for rape, such laws have might been updated to include women.Thats why women that sleep with underage boys are often given a slap on the wrist...I believe some nation haven't done it. Some nations may also change age of consent. That change in itself would make many people criminals if the application of that law is back dated. What I'm saying is pretty easy to get.
tbh he was a lord Byron lothario wannabe, who had a failed movie career and failed marriage to a real celebrity. Then reappeared a bit greyer as an extreme right wing weirdo. Years later all his promiscuity and sexual assaults (some of which is on camera) came back to bite him in the arse. Karma is a bitch its true.
As a casino manager I once said to another manager, ''I only have to point to one of the staff and say, I don't trust him or her and you can never look at that person again in the same light as you do right now. It is as easy as that to ruin someone's career.'' It is the same with Brand whether he is guilty or completely innocent. Brand is anti-mainstream media and they will do their utmost to destroy him without as yet not a shred of evidence.
I disagree. The msm won't cease to exist because of someone like Brand, there's plenty of news out there for everyone. The msm simply love to create big stories and big headlines to attract big ratings and bigger ad revenue. The msm don't even care that Brand is probably guilty (on a moral level), they just want the revenue this story will collect.
That tells me you have sheep working for you who cannot think for themselves. When people criticise other people to me, I tell them I will make my own choices of who I trust and associate with. You come across as two faced and vindictive.
That can cut both ways in Brand's case. Many of the women Brand has said to have had inappropriate relations with were lower downs in the entertainment industry and he had quite a bit of a profile and power at that time. One runner said she didn't report on Brand for fear of losing her job (and Brand had allegedly pulled the "I can get you fired" card). Although everything is only 'alleged' at this point.
@@3rdEyeWide power? why are women sleeping with men who are in certain positions eh? how is that never discussed, you cannot argue this without the other side of the equation, why are women opening their legs for opportunities? how is that acceptable behaviour and moral? I doubt brand even said he would give her any opps either as he didnt have the "power" to do that
I disliked Brand back in the day and just ignored him. His recent work however feels like the kind of thing we need more of, and that crucially, the MSM isn't doing
We don't need more poorly researched clickbait conspiracy populism. I actually have a lot of respect for douglas murray for calling a spade a spade, even though we sit on different sides of the isle.
Musk nailed it, Brand had been criticising big pharma, Black Rock, the MIC et al. Shades of Julian Assange here. A narcissist like Brand is an easy target.
Yes let’s cancel someone completely without any hard evidence or convictions, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty…? The world is a dangerous place when we can erase someone’s freedom of speech based solely on the word of others, embarrassing
What's Peston even doing there? Have been watching R.B these last couple of years and he has been the true voice of reason. It's blatently obvious that the establishment are after him.
what "conspiracy theory"? all he does is report published research which is even allowed on youtube. most of what he reports is well worth hearing. These people have an agenda
"He's not a big talent, he's attempted to break Hollywood some years ago"... he left Hollywood because of the place that it is because he was getting clean and sober. But thank you for the expertise on talent. Plus talent is something you have,not something you are.
In the good old days when the rule of law still applied, it was called 'innocent until proven guilty'. In our modern day where MeToo and the People's Court rule, it is called 'guilty until proven innocent'. Call me old fashioned. But I'm more of a fan of good old safe days than modern uncertain times.
This is clearly a hit job. If these women really wanted justice they would go to the police with evidence. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up but he's innocent until proven guilty in my view.
Even if he isn't innocent this is a hit job anyway. It's safe to assume that majority of people in high positions and celebrities are degenerates. It's not the existence of dirt on them but the time dirt surfaces and becomes news which makes it a hit.
But isn't it possible that 2 things can be true at the same time? Russell could have peed off the wrong person and now they are after him= this is a hit job, but he could have also abused those women back then as well. I mean that was the peak of his fame.
@@EnnAye And wait 20 years to make it an issue?.. get real! if it happened they were a part of it!…He has a big & loud mouth!… end the conversation isn’t to the liking many people… 🤐.
@richieallen2810 It's extremely difficult in most cases to prove that you were raped....it's usually your word against the rapist....so many rapes are not reported because of this....
@ellierivera5519 So if the issue is the content, then why only demonetisation? Why not use this opportunity to delete his entire youtube channel? They did it with another truther channel called Blackchild. He exposed the shady way Rihanna was running Fenty fashion. Using slave labour and exploiting customers in the USA. ThT was his last video. They took his whole channel away. Just deleted it. Why not do that to Russell? Perfect time under this guise.
He is much much bigger talent then both of these guys combined And its obvious they are coming after him for the things he has been openly saying on his podcast
I don’t know who or what gave these panelists the power to categorise what should be joked about or how one’s imagination can run wild in their books 😢
Destroying a person with NO POLICE INVESTIGATION should be against the law. Might as well print that the PM traffics kids then someone else can take over. You should NOT be allowed to do this without due process and a trial.
"should be against the law" It is. RB can sue the papers for damages and the journalists can even be prosecuted if defamed him intentionally or with gross negligence. I guess, this is not that case.
@@Threadbow you are actually wrong - so a correction is required ( as you asked), Harvey Weinstein was investigated, charged then brought to trail and convicted in court, that how it should happen ... I wouldn't want you on a jury , you have tendency to ignore the basic functions of the law and due process 🙄🤣
@@williamsmit619 The New York Times investigation that exposed producer Harvey Weinstein’s long history as a sexual predator set off a chain of events that led to prison for the Hollywood power broker and empowerment for women around the world who stepped up to share their own stories of abuse. Twohey and Jodi Kantor shared a byline on that first blockbuster piece in the fall of 2017, part of a body of work that would earn their newspaper the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. NYT and New Yorker win joint Pulitzer for Weinstein exposé *so you are wrong to correct me, it started the **#MeToo** you will no doubt have heard of* They did a very good job of investigative journalism, got facts and then approached a long list of sources, persuaded them to tell their stories, then appealed to them to go public. Actually Days after the stories went to press, Weinstein was fired from the film studio he co-founded. Within months, he was arrested and charged with rape in New York. In February 2020, he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.
This is an offical execution of a mans character, without any evidence. Disgusting behaviour of these "journalists" To be a casanova is not a crime. Nor is sexual addition.
He was aghast when Douglas sited the Guardian where pervie Pestons wife works, so two mad leftie wonks together going for an ex-leftie and there in is why they are all going for Brand now.
12:07 the lady slandering RB as being “clearly a sex predator”… Let’s see what happens after any trial which may or may not take place. I hope she can defend that statement in court.
Rich, famous, handsome, drug addicted man had numerous sexual encounters, and treats women badly. I am shocked. Said no one with any common sense. If there’s been a crime take it to the police. This is a carnival and it hurts women who have had serious crimes committed against them. Just stop it.
And you’ve hit the nail on the head… this culture where a mere ACCUSATION results in your complete character assassination & career destroyed is repulsive. I guess the ‘Be Kind’ movement all these parasites signed up to has faded away after Caroline Flack?
I'm disappointed by Douglas Murray. I used to respect his opinion but the fact he blows things off and labels everything as a "conspiracy" is just lazy.
What has changed is our understanding of what consent actually means. Years ago, the old joke was, "no means yes"; no self respecting young woman would tarnish her reputation and immediately capitulate to a male's sexual advances, so the man had to persevere in order to demonstrate his sincere desire to be with the woman. Somewhere in the midst of that often silent, complex transaction, the young lady maintained a certain virtue by not being easy, and the man, in persevering, signalled that he sought more than mere congress with the lady. The fact is, neither man nor woman knew exactly what signals they were meant to respond to. Though it's now easy to say consent must be overtly specified or declared by the woman (in heterosexual relations), most young people aren't drawing up an agreement when, after a night at a club or bar, they find themselves together. To suggest that consent can be given but also retracted at any time during an often intensely primal, clumsy ritual, and that it will be clearly understood by both parties, seems naive.
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I want to know why all these media outlets don’t give the same amount of air time to all the girls and women who are trafficked. The MSM only slammed The Sound of Freedom rather than digging deeper into the problems. Our society is obsessively focused on what a celebrity does. I guess it must be better for clicks.
what are the chances that the big bosses from the MSM outlets are regular customers of those trafficked girls ..and boys?
Not just girls and women are trafficked.
Males are too, and they're used for organ harvesting.
Everyone absolutely needs to see "SOUND OF FREEDOM "
The traffickers are right wing people like Tate, and Brand the right wing are protecting them.
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100% agree
It’s simple . Brand is not being attacked for what he did THEN , he’s being attacked for what he’s saying NOW.
Yes, the "EstAbliShmEnt" is really scared of crazy hippies that make no sense whatsoever.
Mainstream media are also responsible, mainstream media is breaking the story, mainstream media has done the investigation.
So what’s your conspiracy theory?
It's as clear as day.
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This investigation apparently began four years ago when Russell was speaking about less-controversial things. Does that fit your theory?
Guilty by social media. The world has lost the plot
Never had the plot .. that chick is a so called a Expert ,,, No
Guilty in my mind a decade ago based on his behaviour on regular old TV.
RUclips Rules... literally
100%
Tbh this would have happened before social media too. The majority of humans since the dawn of time have the view "guilty until proven innocent" because they love to follow the crowd and engage in mob mentality
Social media just exaggerated it because it made doing those things incredibly easy and without consequence. It's why people joking around with incredibly serious words like nonce and pedo has skyrocketed in society. Before social media people wouldn't use these words if they thought the person they were saying it to would attack them. Now they can just say it on an anonymous social media account
However 20 years ago you'd still be sacked or at the very least be asked not to come into work during a trial of this nature so its not some new thing imo. Plus what was "normal" in the 90s nobody cared about. That's why people say The Inbetweeners, Bo Selecta, and Ali G are extremely offensive now. Everyone just laughed at them back then. Some still do because they haven't turned into snowflakes
He deserves some credit for literally being the only bloke from that era who has totally transformed his life around. For almost 10 years already.
Roger That.
By that logic, if someone committed a murder 10 years ago and did not do it again, they should not have to go to jail when they are found 100% guilty of the crime.
@@spirituallysafethat logic only holds if he actually committed rape.
we all know why this is happening. They're doing a Julian Assange on him. He talked too much.
Yep. From mediocre comedian & junkie to left wing conspiracy nutter & grifter to far right "wellness" grifter. All the while growing his investment portfolio while bagging the elites. What an evolution.
This world
is confusing these days, all this posturing about Russell Brand’s moral character while simultaneously giving platforms to men dressed as provocative women reading to kids about performing sexual acts. It’s messed up
Channel 4 has a tv show where you choose your date based on there genitals. Its called naked attraction. However they claim Brand in his underpants is inappropriate
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Great comment. we live in one f@cked up world
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Anyone who tries to police what other people should say or make jokes about is the REAL danger in society
Agreed
You ought to exercise restraint when you're a public figure; you can't just joke about anything when you have millions of people following you.
@@yohighness But you shouldn't go to jail for what you say and you know i am right .
@@michaeldooley5398agreed 👍🏼
@@yohighnessyes you can, it's called comedy
The panel just described the behaviors of every rap artist that's existed since the 1980s.
90s, 2000s, 10s, and 20s. Pearl clutching hypocrites, the lot of them!
But they are a minority… soo
Every rap artist should he banned from every RUclips channel if we are consistent
Not to mention rock & roll or punk. Why hasn't someone investigated the million women of Mick Jagger if Brits are so MeToo about past events.
Black people live rent free in your head 😒
feels like men are now getting punished for decisions women made decades ago but are now embarrassed that they made those decisions so they seek some redemption.
"Famous , but not a big talent" fits a lot of people, I'm looking at you Piers.
Yep! Never got him at all.
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Douglas Murray is hardly Oscar Wilde…….
Whether or not you like Brand or not isn't the issue. The issue is whether he's guilty of unprovable historic crimes.
Why are they unprovable?
@freebornjohn2687 how can you prove the rape? You can't.
@@glennseaward3050 a judge can
Are you saying Harvey Weinstein is innocent……..his crimes were historical.
@@ChuckMarteau A judge can convict him, but can't prove the rape.
This isn’t a discussion. This is propaganda. Russell addressed more important issues than this show ever has. That’s why they hate him.
The man's a joke. And not even a good one.
He hasn't posted a video since he was demonitized that's all I need to know about Brand's motivation
So you admit that as a 30yr old man it’s ok to pick up 16yr olds from high school and take them home and f them? What’s the difference between Epstein and brand? Only 1 year of age difference is just fine with you?
He is laying low.
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Quite utterly extraordinary. You get a guy who by Piers own words has been brutally honest - frank - open - transparent - telling interviewers his deepest most intimate thoughts and feelings - who has publicly documented his own life story from misogynist to what he ultimately became - in fact ACTUALLY - he didnt change at all..... He CONTINUED to tell the truth - He showed how he overcame sex addiction - alcohol abuse - and how he found wonderful ways to balance his life through yoga, meditation, breathing, cold water - etc. etc. etc. You have taken his truth and stabbed him in the back with it. This is "journalism" at its lowest point. Pure monetization of someone who cannot even defend themselves. I think however as all of these events occur - we are all doing what Russell brand tells us to do - we are staying AWAKE and we can see what is happening. I see you are not discussing his latest interview with Dr John Campbell ? C*v*d vaccines being issues to every American regardless of their age - the 400% increase in the cost of the moderna vaccine - The fact that Rishi Sunack is a major investor - that all his cronies are now top dogs at Moderna - That the UK has invested billions and billions of pounds into long term development of this vaccine through Moderna - The FACTS which are all publicly available yet dont get a mention on mainstream news - the same channels that then tell their audience that Russell Brand tells "baseless" (BBCs words) conspiracy theories. Well Piers - once upon a time - vaccine injury was a baseless theory - people who didnt want the vaccine were considered nutcases and ant establishment. You know what? I have learnt more about the world through conspiracy theory than I ever have done through Mainstream news. I actually find TRUTH. One last comment.... for anyone who thinks I am another nutcase. A top financier once said to me. "Richard - you want conspiracy theories? How many Londons are there?" Naturally I thought it was a joke. To this day - No matter HOW many people I have asked and it must be over 100 by this day - NOBODY has ever given me the right answer. Truth in plain sight - yet if I told you there are two - I would suggest 99% would tell me I am mad - and the 1% who know the truth - didnt learn it at school - or through the mainstream media.
When you say how many Londons are there what do you mean ? Like London Ontario ? Or demographics? Sorry Richard I don’t understand what you mean can you please explain? This was a great comment and I just felt compulsed to ask by what nature you meant you said you asked over 100 people and they didn’t know , I’ll be honest if you mean places there are a few in America I think a couple in Africa and South America but most people wouldn’t usually know the exact amount because I would presume a lot wouldn’t be big major cities maybe small towns that would have no relevance to anything I know there are loads of Manchesters and Chesterfields scattered about 😂
@@leonarddavies288 Hi! I am so glad you felt "compulsed" - I appreciate it! Its become the most wonderful party trick, lol. If anyone ever mocks conspiracy theory (IE knowing something they dont want to believe or havent bothered to make the effort to learn) I just tell them to name the two Londons. If they can't - it proves they have no right to mock what they dont already know :) Obviously we all went to school - We all took history and learned about..... Wait for it.... the great potato famine? The Boston Tea Party? The Industrial Revolution? These all stick in my mind during what were the most painful days of my life - school. So of course if there were TWO Londons in the UK we would all learn about it right? Especially if the details surrounding them are so unbelievably - incredibly significant to everyone who lives in the UK. But actually NO. The history of the two Londons is apparently so inconsequential that we are not educated about it at school and nor is it ever mentioned during our lifetimes it seems. OK so as I have eluded to - the answer is they are both in the UK. One however has its own government, mayor and police force; its own laws, flag and coat of arms Yep So the answer is there are TWO Londons - and when the Queen wants to visit - she has to be granted permission I believe? Just serarch "The Two Londons" or "are there two londons" on youtube and you should find some cool videos on the history and how it all became about. I would have found it interesting had they taught me at school - as I think you may find it too :) Thanks for not being mean to me.
@@RichardsGuitarshop Yeah, the one is almost like the Vatican in a way.
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You don't have to believe in conspiracy theories (and I don't) to understand that Article 6 of the Human Rights Act protects citizen's rights to a fair trial. And, that does not include via the media. I cannot stand him, and rarely listen to a thing he says. I blame GQ magazine and lad culture for most of his tripe. But that is not the point. There are reasons, historically, why people used to go to public executions. For the entertainment and not for the justice. People who think they have the right to freedom of expression, should realize some people intend to remove it, bit by bit.
This Brand bashing is appalling. They're all acting like he's guilty. How can we possibly know whether these accusations are true that happened twenty years ago?
You won't be able to save this rapist, sorry.😂
More evidence than the rapists conspiracy theories, bye bye Russel. 😂🤣 @@caseyjones513
Based on irrefutable evidence and his own confessions. So what is your point exactly?@@brandonblop
Ask Danny Masterson
Those women are liars. I don’t even need to hear more. I know they’re lying. They just are. Woman can be real dirt bags towards good men like Brand.
The UK Parliament sent letters to RUclips and Rumble (possibly to other platforms and content creators) suggesting them in certain terms to de-platform and de-monetize Russell Brand. All that based on mere allegations. This is highly unethical. The UK Parliament behaves like a gangster, mafia-style attack. We need to question how this happens, not only why. Russell Brand is INNOCENT until proven guilty by a court of law, and anyone treating him otherwise is unethical and unprofessional.
A committee chair not parliament. Doesn't make it right but let's be accurate
I believe the correct term for the direction ALL OF WESTERN CULTURE is heading towards is fascism. Well, not heading towards, we're already there.
Until they’re brought directly to the police they’re not even proper allegations!!
He's innocent until proven guilty! All these hit- pieces don't do the MSM any favors.
No he is innocent and proven guilty by the msm because women said so
He used to crawl toilets for sex and drugs in the 90's.... he may have changed BUT when he kissed that eugenicist Harari who wants us "useless eaters" to be culled, I lost all respect for him...
That is only for the courts. People are free to think what we want: re sexual offenders.
his own words speak for themselves
Like Bill Clinton. Is Clinton innocent until proven guilty?
Clinton's victims were never going to have a chance. At least Brand's victims might have a chance.
Murray just diminished himself by dismissing Brands contributions. Sounded more like a jealous slam then an actual critic of the situation. If Brand was just a crazy Conspiracy Theorist they wouldn't have bothered trying to cancel him.
using one card from the playbook wasnt enough, now they are also saying Brand is far right wing? Laughable!! People has to be brain dead to believe it
Exactly. He's NOW taking flak because he's over the target.
What has Russell contributed other than crazy conspiracy theories?
@@mdaddy775 The best way to get the answer is directly from the 'horse's mouth' by watching his political commentary shows for yourself: www.youtube.com/@RussellBrand
@@mdaddy775 I'm quite sure it would be a complete waste of my time to try to educate you so I just allow you to remain in your troll state.
It's not about how good or bad he was, It's about the way the whole MSM collectively are trying to shut him up. Something he has said has hit the bull's eye.
Covid, Pfizer, Biden, Maui..... take your pick. He will always point out the red flags and he has over 6M followers now. He fully admitted to being a drug user and sex addict, and no doubt did terrible things. These msm mouthpieces hate him, that is clear.
Because we are sick of these entitled predators
Didn't he call Farage a "pound shop Enoch Powell" when he was a lefty a few years ago?
Supposing it was your 16 year old daughter he was dating?
@@stephenclarke2206 The 16 year old’s mother drove her to Russel’s place. Go figure.
Nothing like piling in on someone when they cannot defend themselves.
Well done all of you.
That woman is disgusting
Yeah, not a fan, but all this bs without a trial is pretty messed up and it seems the text from the documentary is actually about wearing a condom rather than r*pe.
Always the way.
Yes. Russell is the real victim in all of this. 😢
Yes, all of them will say anything against someone else, as long as their paychecks keep coming! Slimeballs!
It’s odd that these allegations weren’t brought up during the #MeToo campaign if Russell Brand has been acting this way since the early 2000s. Why now? Why did the media stay quiet until now?
Very good question that needs to be answered ASAP.
cos during the metoo society was still expecting the bare minimum, like that someone who is making a serious accusation would do it publicly or at least would do it legally to police first , but not anymore, now it goes like "channel 4 says 1000 anonymous ppl have accused u of rape; guilty."
Innocent until proven guilty!!! Give this man a fair trial !!
Exactly
I don't believe in conspiracy theories but honestly think this is the establishment's attempt to silence him.
Proud of RB he has worked his butt off to become a better person ❤
He's asking for money now on his own channel. It's like Trump. Pathetic.
Who cares??
Anyone who calls Brand a conspiracy theorist simply hasn't listened to his podcast. He doesn't give opinions on the matters. He only gives the facts and provides other options of news than just the mainstream media, who we all know are heavily controlled.
Exactly. He points out conflicts of interests
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Great point. The sheep will believe everything they are reading without doing any kind of research. As far as I can see there is nothing to stop him from continuing to do his channel. I don't imagine he is short of a few quid so he should continue to expose people and their activities in fact he has nothing to lose now so he can speak freely. I think too many people are suspicious of MSM now and their actions and I firmly believe they are completely responsible for people doubting anything they have to say. The same can be said for Politicians on all sides. Tell the truth about everything and not what suits your agenda, nobody cares about your agenda but people do care about the truth and in this day and age the truth is sadly lacking in all aspects of life.
'I'm not an expert on Russell Brand'. So why are you so sure that he is a sex predator then? These guys are so up their own arses, it's insane.
There are credible accusations against him.
@@sc00bydoo10 thoughtful people
@@sc00bydoo10 ANYONE who's not a blind fan of Russell !
@@sc00bydoo10 That's true - and there's a lot of reason to believe he is guilty - but of course it hasn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt - at least not yet.
Did you hear what he wrote in his book? she read it out!
They convicted Johnny Depp before his trial and look how that turned out....😊
he had more money for lawyers :)
He was in the right and that lying something wasn't, and that's what came to light in court.
DEPP is WEF
What's that got to do with this case?
@@therealdrbyte and a satanist.
The moment he shifted from the safe, comfortable left and starting questioning the narrative, he put himself at risk.
Maybe he should use condoms, eh?
Murray seems off his game on this one. He had no trouble defending Kevin Spacey from cancel culture.
He can personally relate with one and not the other. I was surprised how much he detests Russell but he is as far from a womanizer as possible. So…..🤷♂️
@@MGuitarZ77 Prob deep seeded jealousy sadly, Russel got with way more Women and although Murray is Gay he's probably desired many women. Hell most Gay men have a hard time not being promiscuous.
Absolutely.
hes envious of the 6,6 million subscribers, cause he is a "scholar" and Russell just an amateur, a commoner, in his arrogant view
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealname Typically yes, but women nowadays are more promiscuous too... looking at the rise of Of and such
She says “I’m not an expert on Russell Brand…”
Well, you seem to be going out of way to prove otherwise.
My advice to you all is leave it to a court.
If he has done anything wrong , let them decide.
Then you can pile in.
Has this country forgotten what slander means?
I wouldn’t trust courts to decide anything. Have you been paying attention?
Glad you said that! I actually consider myself an Expert on Russell Brand. P.S. I seeing, right here, an ad with 2 men talking about 'ball hair." I find that offensive. Others will laugh and call it hilarious - hey if it is making money - let's face it - anything goes. Money is the evil, Not Russell Brand.
@tokenspirit1548 🤔🤣 the advert algorithm is quite something.
Also interesting that there’s no mention of him being an alcoholic and heroine addict during that time period. When it’s Hunter Biden’s bad behavior they can’t remind us enough times that he was “struggling with addiction” to excuse bad behavior.
Like Greenwood's case?
If Russell Brand had only 600 RUclips subscribers he would have been left alone.
6 million which is 5.5 M more than this channel 😂lol #stayfree #istandwithBrand
And these slags looking for money .
It is amazing because I have come across so many damn predators.. bosses who forcibly tried to have sex with me.. harassed me.. and years of crap.. but because they aren’t famous nobody knows about these creeps but they are EVERYWHERE.. BUT, I suppose shedding light on what’s going on even if famous people are the ones in the spotlight, it makes it easier for VICTIMS EVERYWHERE to say something even though it won’t be front page news.. it sheds a light on CREEPS LIKE BRAND.. which he absolutely is.. so I suppose SHOWING THE WORLD WHATS going on might be a good thing and give victims some hope..
Douglas Murray is a hypocrite! What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" as he said about Kevin Spacey on this same show 🤡
This entire panel tells you all you need to know about the MSM. They talk a good game, but eventually they bow their heads and take the knee. They need to be reminded of their conduct around poor Caroline Flack. They literally through her under the bus before the police got involved, and backed her into a corner. Innocent until proven guilty. Trial by media needs to be outlawed
She was an idiot to be fair
I agree 1000%
I was shocked by Douglas Murray here, actually. I thought he had principles, clearly not.
@@JohnMoranI was very taken aback by him too - I had him on a pedestal
I also think another point that all journalists are missing is that the public have simply don’t believe anything they say. They are all either left wing or right wing, and constantly spin stories and create narratives to suit their own agendas. It’s not that people don’t believe the accusers, we just don’t believe the media
Love how passionate the panelist are with regards to allegations towards RB, yet show little to no interest in a certain deceased philanthropist and an island list.
Isnt there a very famous BBC commentator that like groomed and raped a young boy? Have hardly heard a word about that. These people are all morally superior like we cant see what is really happening. The people are not as stupid as they think we are. Whoever is left that trusts any MSM is lost and/or has been living under a rock. This is ridiculous.
Exactly
Is he deceased thou?
@@miniman612all the unnamed power players from the gislaine Maxwell case aren't. Media pretty silent on that.
I love how passionate the so called Conservatives are with regards to the island list, yet show little to no interest in the fact that Russel Brand, while he was 31 years old, waited for the 16 year old girl to finish classes in school so they can have sex afterwards.
This interview has really exposed the hypocracy of this show.
Agreed. I’m a bit shocked with this one
To be fair Piers is completely on the fence. Innocent until proven guilty.
The 3 men are scared that if they do not disparage Brandt, they will have sexual accusations piled up against them as well (cowards) - that's how Western totalitarianism wors, and the woman just hasn't had good sex with an assertive man in her life
@@JAWS-dn8fm Is he though? He plays down Russell's innocence and then plays up the accusations as if Russell was wondering the street and threw women into an alleyway and did he way with them and walked off. All these stories end the say way. "We were in a consensual relationship. We had sex a few times before. He tried something more extreme (Still wonder how was this a shock to these women given he self advertised as a sex extremest before they even met) these women said no, or pushed him off and he stopped. In none of these stories he did not hold them in place till he finished. He did not beat them to submission, he did not tie them up. And it seems these women continued to see him after these nights in question. Why is no one asking these women if they felt so attacked, why did they stay on, why did they not go to the police and why are they going to journalists 10+ years after the fact?
@@gutz1981 Yes all questions that need to be asked. So though I agree all the why didn't they do XYZ and why this, and why that are valid points, however humans are not programmed computers to act and deal with everything the exact same way. Rapes have been proven when historical because many victims don't always come forward right away and sometimes never at all. Some are strong willed and go directly to the police. Everyone handles things different. So though I agree they are questionable things, it still doesn't mean the rapes didn't happen. No one knows and chances are probably never will do.
Russel brand has more talent in his little finger than all of the pratts talking about him
Can we please have a fraction of this interest in finding the Jeffrey Epstein list...
Exactly, where is the list of real sex slave, not a girl who had the chouce and took all the davantage with the consent of the mom
It won't happen. That takes real investigative journalism, not tabloid-style hacks.
Why are grooming gangs left alone and young girls not believed? Let’s talk about that.
" He's famous but not a big talent "
Oooh Mr. Murray.... not the slightest hint of envy there 🤓🤓🤓
You nailed it, the guys an imbecile . Kudos to you …
A man who couldn't fill a phone booth describing a man who fills stadiums 😅
I believe you do not know how many book Douglas Murray has sold, or you have very large phone booths in your country.
I believe he has stated a simple fact. R. B. is indeed famous but, for many people, completely unworthy of that fame. By the way: Hitler filled even bigger stadiums. Popularity is not synonymous with competence. @@BrenCford
@@BrenCford GREAT REPLY ! Kudos
@@geraldrada considering he was only a comedian I think he has done ok.
Douglas has gone overboard here. Yes Russell’s behaviour during his youth and addiction was seriously questionable, but he’s matured and settled down.
He speaks on issues that other people are afraid to mention.
If he’s guilty then yes by all means punish him, but don’t throw him under the bus just yet.
Jalous of Brands success. almost suspiciously so..
Btw Pierscseems to never heard of boasting or joking.
Douglas is a dishonest psychopath who will seek to take down any who object to his insane political project of constant war.
'One other thing that we need to look at..' the fact he isn't proven guilty yet!
Only Hunter Biden can be innocent. Both Trump and Russel are guilty before anything even happened.
The media has already judged him because he dropped socialism and began voicing right wing / conservative views.
"Sexual Predator" = Going to pubs and chatting up women, that's all i got from this video
These people were fine with Russel Brand 4 days ago. Now they're all outraged at his behaviour on TV and his book. I wonder why they never made their feelings about him clear before last week!
So true, they make me laugh, honestly...
Frostrup thinks she can call him a sex predator because he called himself that. Since when does calling yourself something make you that thing? If he had said he was a Martian, would she believe that as well? Russell Brand is a comedian who often talks in a flippant, tongue in cheek style, and to dig through everything he has ever said now is ridiculous. But most of us know WHY this happening.
He shouldn’t be cancelled because nothing has been proven and he’s innocent until proven guilty.
By that logic OJ simpson should still be getting endorsement deals.
I'm not saying Russel is guilty or innocent but the justice system isn't flawless abd sometimes society has to react to it
Russell is being targeted by the cancel culture and by the comments you can tell who is on board with it.
THIS is the beast that he and all other Leftists UNLEASHED. Now he gets to TASTE it for himself ! ...KARMA !
The justice system and public opinion are two different things
Rpsts aren’t innocent, whether or not they’ve been convicted.
These panelists are so out of touch. They have fully embarrassed themselves. Especially disappointed in Murray. He should know better.
yes, I'm shocked that Douglas just called Russ a conspiracy theorist.
I used to respect Murray. I got the impression he lost integrity a while ago
Murray dropped the ball big time on this. In times of crisis, people do reveal themselves. You can see the hatred oozing from him.
The thing is, Murray isn’t a misogynist. Neither are Morgan (at the moment) or Peston.
A lot of men are glad a man got that much ‘fresh c**t’ and vicariously wish him well in the vein hope they could be so successful.
@@chidigit And perhaps jealousy ?
The erosion of fair journalism is a problem. The bias in media has most people doubting anything that is reported.
That's always been the same.
"He's famous, but not a big talent". Sums up Douglas Murray precisely.
What a bunch of vultures we have here against Brand.
If he did what has been claimed, he should pay but these people dig up all they can to support their agenda.
Yep they do, that is usually what happens in court too. A person's character and past behaviour always come in, it helps the prosecution prove their case. If there was nothing there in the first place, nobody would be able to dig up anything to use against him, would they?
And, all need to read what the accusations are. Kim Iverson gives a broad review of these accusations.
He certainly made it easy for them.
60MINUTED Australia is a good example of Russell Brand's behaviour.
@mariahewitt9787 thanks so I'll watch that
Well if it's inappropriate to joke/brag about it then cancel every musician, director, producer, actor, and pretty much every other public personality. Especially cancel every rapper and rock star.
hard to find anything more misogynous than rap songs lyrics
Well, they are all cancelled more or less lol.
The irony
They worship rappers
@ mcwho3 it’s not about the behaviour- it’s about the power of the message to shake people’s confidence in the official narrative. If you’re guilty of that- you can be guilty of anything. Recall Julian Assange. Same formula.
its pretty wild to see how the media has fully turned on RB an he hasn't even stepped foot in court, let the man have his day in court defend himself before you try to fully ruin his life.....
Why should it even go to court... wasn't one consensual sex but the issue was over a condom? and four other are anonymous... did they try to fight him off? did he beat them into submission? were they hospitalized? were there witnesses? why did they want 8-17 years and why all now at once?... who found them and what were they offered?
@@t.c.2776Because taking it to court is a good way to tell whether or not there's truth to the allegations or not.
Why would he go to court? He hasn't been charged or even investigated.
he's never going to get a fair hearing and has already been found guilty. They won't let him get away or they will look stupid. The judiciary is part of the establishment that want him gone.
Yep, and most of the 'don't like Russell' types have never ever met him, seen him, or know anything of his life. They are fools!
He is a bigger talent than all these muppets. More loved, respected and trusted.
Whatever you think of him, he’s not there to defend himself. Of all people, I’m most disappointed in Douglas.
Same
the triggernometry boys are close with douglas, adn they are friends with alleged victims, i heard them hint at this years ago.
@@Flow-cf6uu thirded
4th'd. Agreed! Ironically, I read Douglas' book 'War on the West' and was generally surprised how limited his scope was on the real implosion that the west is going under. At the time I actually thought Russell Brand could teach Murray a lot.
Gutless Murray there for you
Brand has more followers than any of the media that are trying to cancel him. none of them have those numbers. Sounds like they dont want the competition.
Douglas Murray doesn't often disappoint me yet he did this time! js
Maybe that's because you expect things to be black and white, apparently, and "us" against "them". Once again, Douglas Murray proved his intellectual integrity here.
@@AALavdas - "Intellectual integrity" ?
Stop it, you're giving me the giggle fits!
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@@AALavdasbullshit he’s being paid to jump on the bandwagon here
I thought the same. How can Douglas be so off on the content of RB podcast? Is it because Russell isn't right, because Douglas never listened to it, or because he can't move past the 'old' Russ of the 90s which I have to say I couldn't stand back then and many I know can't take that he's evolved from that.
Russ is doing amazing work these days, awesome channel and reporting.
and how!
The problem with that women is she's comparing how the times were back in the early 2000s to todays times.. now everyone is offended and you can't say nothing, while back then people knew what a joke, sarcasm & banter was.
She’s completely forgetting he’s a comedian and based his entire career on this character he created.
No she didn’t forget, she was intentionally quoting them out of the context.
That wasn't a character it was his real life he was talking about, hopefully evidence
There is absolutely nothing funny about what he says about women
@@JaneA544the comedy is in the pompous highfalutin way he dresses up his sordid behaviour and general degeneracy. It doesn’t excuse his behaviour but he IS funny and witty with an uncommon facility with language, sorry but it’s true. Simultaneously he can also be terrible human being. He may even have genuinely changed..I don’t know
@@JaneA544as if no guy ever talks like that lol…. Lets face it, women want to be with famous men. It s always been the case, and everyone is acting shocked when this is said out loud
Brand is amazing , to achieve his level of fame and money with no talent in any department is incredible
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Not to mention sh*gging his merry way through all that wanton crumpet offering it up to him on a silver platter, eh?
As soon as allegations are made people are guilty and lives destroyed
That is a serious problem it would seem.
If you ask a joking question, don’t assume the answer is totally serious especially from a comedian.
An "uncensored" debate with 4 people agreeing to destroy a man without any evidence
Piers isnt
Indeed, and they're not staying on topic, they're using this as a platform to attack everything about him.
@@CustardSpace There is a huge difference between charges and accusations. Last I checked, he wasn't charged. Be careful to know what you're talking about.
It’s not a debate.
@@CustardSpaceas you said above "to bring forth these charges" , "charges" not "accusations". are you a journalist or politician 😂. oh, and lastly you did not use the word "huge" never mind the word "huge" in bold. your lack of credibility is palpable...
I am a fan of Douglas Murray, but this is a prime example of political “group think” taking precedent over common sense. What on earth makes him think Brand wants to write for the Telegraph? 😂
The facts that have come out are not good and these facts come straight from BRAND.. so it’s not an opinion or can be misinterpreted.. People inside who have spoken to others already know how disgusting BRAND IS.. In 2013 DANNY MINOGUE interviewed BRAND and even just interviewing BRAND.. she described him after as a VILE PREDATOR because of the way he treated her.. DURING AN INTERVIEW which is pretty bad.. and Danny isn’t a drama Queen or someone who jumps on this crap.. so it must have been serious. Douglas KNOWS MORE than he can say.. and he has integrity and is a good dude.. and predators are DISGUSTING..
Lost all respect for Murray after hearing him yap on this video. What an absolute plum.
You've misunderstood the point he was making. He was saying that unlike The Guardian and The New Statesman and other openly left-wing media outlets who enthusiastically embraced Brand in the 00s as a sexually liberated counter-cultural icon, Brand has never received a welcome in right-wing media circles to the same degree, and he contrasted it with the consistent unwillingness of major conservative newspapers to go near him.
He was pointing out the lack of responsibility that is being taken by the same media outlets who helped promote his profile and inflate his ego a decade ago now turning round and saying how shocking it all is now the allegations have come out. Whether they like it or not they may very well end up being proven partial to a modern day Savile-like scandal with Brand, turning a blind-eye to his failings because he was "one of them", and the chickens are now coming home to roost.
Murray is a great writer and thinker, but he's missed the point entirely re: Brand's whole positioning. Russell has been an anti-establishment voice within independent journalism for a number of years now; his whole appeal centres around being considerably less partisan to the media behemoth. Therefore, why on earth would an establishment paper like the Telegraph want him writing for them? And why would he choose to write for them?
I see this again as a battle between the dying legacy media (of which Piers is one-foot-in, one-foot-out) and independent voices, which are always going to pose a threat to more curated forms of media that serve a particular narrative or political agenda. The more these independent voices grow in popularity, the bigger the existential threat to old-time legacy media, and the greater the incentive the latter have for squashing such voices.
The media machine cannot tolerate decentralisation; it runs counter to its entire raison-d'être. But decentralisation is the inevitable future. There is no conceivable way in which things could turn out differently.
People who are awake and are seeking the truth, call him Gutless Murray. He’s so gutless, he’s always speaking negative about people, who aren’t there on the panel or podcast, to defend themselves. That’s a coward right there!
Really disappointed at Douglas Murray on this - he clearly hasn't been watching Brand for the last few years. Gross though Brand's past has been, I think he's a changed man, and his political analysis has become astute and well worth hearing.
He is just jealous but he is going to annoy his own audience on the right by trying to ostracise one of our own.
What's gross about his past?
Maybe his opinion is just different than yours. I’ve never thought Brand was an intellectual figure, but that’s my opinion, and this is a talk show; talking includes opinions.
Agreed. Their common friend, Jordan Peterson, needs to school Murray on how much of an important talent Russell Brand really is.
Ultimately Murray while having a lot of good takes and clearly being witty/educated, he does have some notable prejudices. I came aware of this from his coverage and opinions on Irish history which while fairly balanced in places over time became very loyalist. He's anti woke sure but he's also very pro establishment. Also Russell Brand is not "right wing", again even watching one video would make that obvious
Douglas Murray just outed himself as not being on our team.
Grow the hell up. Brand is a somewhat charming grifter - everything is an act, always has been by him (and I’m from the U.K. and listened to him in the early xfm radio days in 2001/2002, he was just hungry for fame at any way he could achieve it) - and now he identified an income based around the whole IDW milieu led by Joe Rogan at the beginning (and I like Joe), and propagated that even further. He’s started his own ersatz religion where he’s the messiah, the elder, the unquestioned one.. and you’re all his sheep and flock. It’s a grift in plain sight. A cult of conspiracy and pseudoscience and faux-numinous nonsense and spirituality.
He’s not one shred of evidence, or education, or training to pertain to most of what he says - unlike, another semi-charlatan he hangs with - Jordan Peterson. At least there was a bedrock of a scientific mind there, once upon a time. Hearing his obfuscations when asked a direct question on religion infuriates me.
Thinking people are never on a team.
of course he isn't he openly bats for the other team.
Agreed. I never expected this from him. Very shameful.
@@dinobotpwnz
"Thinking people are never on a team."
Murray is thinking?
All he does is parrot idiotic talking points that he hears from Neocons...
Murray is literally a definition of a dollar store UK Neocon.
All he does is talk about how amazing Western values and how bad people who don't agree with them are but when you press on him to define "western values" he will showcase just how abstract and vague these things are to him... just buzzwords he uses as post-hoc justifications for his bigotry.
If white person says edgy things about women and gays Murray will say its just a joke bro the "intolerant left" is at it again... but when Muslim says the same he explodes.
Apply your standards consistently... its not that hard...
Neocons will always use the "Western superiority" when it suits them and "Western degeneracy and deep state woke cultural marxism" when it suits them however both statements cant be true at the same time one of them or both of them are a lie.
I thought people were innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Completely (unless they don’t follow the party line. DUH)
Not anymore. It depends who you are.
So you think O.J. Simpson is innocent?
He is a celebrity thus it is interesting to report on him, no one has said he is legally guilty of rape yet, they're saying he has been accused
So you think Bill Cosby is innocent?
What is this false moral outrage and hand wringing - its shocking how they are talking about him like he's been convicted😂
These 4 telentless vultures salary depend on it LOL they couldn't make a living without the UK government's handouts, and a few oligarchs ; All of which get theirs from Ukkrraine and from the plaandeemic ; In that sense, they are fighting Brand to protect their owner's revenues and their salaries. Almost natural LOL MSM media must go away, and no more public funding.
We should stop supporting piers because he is part of the problem as well
@@christopherwilliams2852Here we go, the cancelling…….there would be no one left if you stop supporting someone every time they offend you. Times change attitudes.
@@Grace-tc1lq Dishonesty is Cancellable. Honestly.
It's so weird. People are so weird. Dumb drones.
It amazes me that as soon as a story breaks like this, every Tom, Dick and Harry comes out from the media world and says 'I've always thought this about him' 'everyone think he's some sort of great thinker' 'he appeals to the young people'
The only fact of the matter is.... as soon as someone says things that the mainstream doesn't like, they all gang up and try their best to bury that person, dragging up things from years ago. Finding quotes that could be deemed threatening and misogynistic.
No objectiveness at all!!!!
Brand isn't a conspiracy theorist. He's someone who doesn't believe in the establishments (goverment, media etc) and he's bloody right too.
True, true, true.
Yep
I will stand with Brand until a trial shows him guilty BUT Doglaus Murray is hardly a MSM apologist
Not a big talent? Russell is a genius.
Your standarts are below 0 then?
@timbosveld4277 lolololol ahm...no. DM doesnt even have a RUclips channel. But how can anyone put Brand the consoiracy moronic fan even next to him??
The level of gaslighting on all these news feeds is there to see, those that have a dislike of him like Douglas just can't contain their feelings of disdain.
I was really disappointed in Mr Murray.
@noelward8047 his comment to another lady different subject. You haven't even got a career or words to that effect. Put me right off him
He was a disappointment on this debate I agree
I cannot agree. I could never understand the interest in a person such as R. B. He's interviews always felt so disgusting and vain to me that I was never able to finish one to the end. I honestly see no competence or reason to listen to R. B. for more than 10 seconds. I respect those who do, in light of the freedom we all have to pursuit legal interests, but I cannot understand those people. R. B. is a toxic, ignorant, boastful, arrogant, egocentric, nobody. An influencer. Good luck to him. I hope he has a fair trial. I respect his right to innocence until proven guilty, but I fully share Douglas Murray's opinion.
Yes he's bitter and jealous because Russel isn't even a proper journalist but he's still better at it and more popular than Douglas.
You obviously can't accept that your hero might be an extremely manipulative predator.
Cherry picking things Russel Brand has said or done 15 years after the time and completely undermining and neglecting everything he’s been doing and saying for the past few years is pathetic. Shame on these people.
Guilty until proven innocent is a bad policy, but we’ve seen this nonsense for years now, just as we’ve seen the attack on comedians and independent journalists. It’s nothing new, it just convinces me that Brand has touched too many establishment nerves and now they’re trying to make him pay the price
Well, the only problem is that every political side does it and has been doing it forever. I doubt it will stop anytime soon. The same people that say it is bad will turn around and do the same thing to the people they dislike in another comment section
The accusations are not from the past few years though, they are from the time he was saying all that stuff.
It’s very shameful that these so called journalists didn’t spend some time reporting and discussing the huge amount of grooming gangs in this country, instead spending so much time on individual cases. As for Peston the guy who’s famous for not asking important relevant questions during Covid,
Exactly, that was also what I was wondering. Because if the resources for investigation that were used for this case, we're used for something much more important. They would probably get also very, very damning results. But that's a much more dangerous enemy to investigate rather than the gentleman here mentioned.
Dont really like brand. But what hes spoke on is not conspiracy.
exactly. They chose their outrage don't they. They hate Brand because he's no longer far left, he's learnt to think for himself.
If they did that they would have to eventually arrest a lot of "non indigenous" people and thats bad for business nowadays
Almost totally agree.....but COVID is/was real and a danger. I am not guessing, I know it. @@babalanca
You can't judge people's past with modern standards. It's simply unfair and stupid.
Except when it comes to rape.
@@pronoun_dilemma Stop the hypocrisy. This is something that could send most nations of the world back to the middle ages of absolute government power. If the government can pay anyone in someone's past to say consensual sex was not and get the person defamed, it's game over for activists, political opponents and more. The Western nation have already corrupted the culture of most nations with free sex and promiscuity, so it's going to be easy to get people to falsely accuse and get paid. It's a dangerous practice for the world at large. If nations with a corrupt press catch up with this game then it's over for humanity. Thats why people should be left and encouraged to seek veagence, not coerced into doing so. Human beings can easily abuse anything and turn a good cause into a political weapon. So, it's common sense to have limitations that prevent it. Stop thinking with your heart. Use your brain. If you're a woman, be certain that it'll get to you too at some point. So stop being selfish.
@@pronoun_dilemma Try to understand my point. Many things classified as being confident and flirtatious then, are now considered as crimes or assault. You can't judge the past with modern standards. It's simply stupid. Just imagine if age of consent is raised to 25 tommorrow, then people that had consensual sex 10 years ago start coming out. Will that make sense and be fair? No. Any adult with a brain knows that many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv. His books were published without a problem. Don't be a hypocrite.
@@Noob-zi2ce I understand your point. Not sure why you explained it as a reply to my comment where I only mentioned rape. It comes across like you're defending rape.
"many things Brand did that is now reported as inappropriate were ok then and even put on tv"
Many, but not all???
@@pronoun_dilemma I should be the one asking you why you put rape below my comment if you're not pre judging that Brand did that. That clearly didn't show up in my comment because there's no evidence that he forced or coerced anyone into sex. I was just telling you about the hypocrisy of the media....and of course the definition of rape have never been the same go and check. I believe most laws have updated their definition of rape. For example we have some nations where a woman can't be indicted for rape, such laws have might been updated to include women.Thats why women that sleep with underage boys are often given a slap on the wrist...I believe some nation haven't done it. Some nations may also change age of consent. That change in itself would make many people criminals if the application of that law is back dated. What I'm saying is pretty easy to get.
He's a player like a lot of men, but more honest than most! Until he is in court with evidence, I will still support him.
Exactly!
He has apologized for his past excesses and is married with three children.
ITs a crime to be a player now.
Marriella seems to have a pretty Victorian attitude towards sex.
Any one who is not a perfect gentleman is a rapist in her mind.
tbh he was a lord Byron lothario wannabe, who had a failed movie career and failed marriage to a real celebrity. Then reappeared a bit greyer as an extreme right wing weirdo. Years later all his promiscuity and sexual assaults (some of which is on camera) came back to bite him in the arse. Karma is a bitch its true.
Interesting how this suddenly gets air time when he begins attacking the pharma companies.....
As a casino manager I once said to another manager, ''I only have to point to one of the staff and say, I don't trust him or her and you can never look at that person again in the same light as you do right now. It is as easy as that to ruin someone's career.'' It is the same with Brand whether he is guilty or completely innocent. Brand is anti-mainstream media and they will do their utmost to destroy him without as yet not a shred of evidence.
👍🏻 Precisely.
I disagree. The msm won't cease to exist because of someone like Brand, there's plenty of news out there for everyone. The msm simply love to create big stories and big headlines to attract big ratings and bigger ad revenue. The msm don't even care that Brand is probably guilty (on a moral level), they just want the revenue this story will collect.
That tells me you have sheep working for you who cannot think for themselves. When people criticise other people to me, I tell them I will make my own choices of who I trust and associate with. You come across as two faced and vindictive.
That can cut both ways in Brand's case. Many of the women Brand has said to have had inappropriate relations with were lower downs in the entertainment industry and he had quite a bit of a profile and power at that time. One runner said she didn't report on Brand for fear of losing her job (and Brand had allegedly pulled the "I can get you fired" card). Although everything is only 'alleged' at this point.
@@3rdEyeWide power? why are women sleeping with men who are in certain positions eh? how is that never discussed, you cannot argue this without the other side of the equation, why are women opening their legs for opportunities? how is that acceptable behaviour and moral? I doubt brand even said he would give her any opps either as he didnt have the "power" to do that
We all know why they went after Russell Brand in 2023 and not 2014 or during the me too movement in 2017. He wasn't challenging the system then
I disliked Brand back in the day and just ignored him. His recent work however feels like the kind of thing we need more of, and that crucially, the MSM isn't doing
Not really. It’s the laziest sort of redundant contrarian take he had. He was basically a palatable version of Alex jones
We don't need more poorly researched clickbait conspiracy populism. I actually have a lot of respect for douglas murray for calling a spade a spade, even though we sit on different sides of the isle.
Having these journalist categorically defame Russell is eye opening. I feel this isn't the right way to cover a story that is still developing.
There’s nothing wrong with making ‘jokes about serious things’. In fact, it helps us to better understand and cope with them.
Yeah but you have to be funny. Brand isn't
@@rigsby1454 - Humour is a subjective thing not objective! js
I don't think he's in trouble because he was 'joking'. He's in trouble because he was putting his cock where it doesn't belong.
@@rigsby1454 don’t disagree with you, but humor is subjective.
@@brandonblop yeah… still.
Musk nailed it, Brand had been criticising big pharma, Black Rock, the MIC et al. Shades of Julian Assange here. A narcissist like Brand is an easy target.
In other words, if you stay within the left wing woke box you'll be protected.
Eff that.
Yes ,you need to stay with the "progressives " !
Pretty much yeah
Utter bullshit, most MSM is right wing
Exactly
Yes let’s cancel someone completely without any hard evidence or convictions, what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty…?
The world is a dangerous place when we can erase someone’s freedom of speech based solely on the word of others, embarrassing
He is already too big to be canceled.... for that reason the exact opposite will happen. That's the beauty of the whole story. ;)
Would you say the same if it was a public figure you hate? There is a lot of motivated reasoning happening here
So you support a sexual abuser and rapist?????
What's Peston even doing there? Have been watching R.B these last couple of years and he has been the true voice of reason.
It's blatently obvious that the establishment are after him.
@user-pq7jj3vs3e yes he's been telling his 6 million viewers on utube he maybe stopped
So they have been groomed ready for this.
what "conspiracy theory"? all he does is report published research which is even allowed on youtube. most of what he reports is well worth hearing. These people have an agenda
"He's not a big talent, he's attempted to break Hollywood some years ago"... he left Hollywood because of the place that it is because he was getting clean and sober.
But thank you for the expertise on talent. Plus talent is something you have,not something you are.
Piers somehow manages to insert himself into any story doesn’t he
He certainly likes the sound of his own voice. A LOT.
Of course he does. It's his job. Stop with the piers bashing
He’s the control man. The world is fake.
Well to be fair, it's his show and his name is in its title. To be expected.
Lol isn't that the point of the show?
Wtf is Douglas talking about?
You may not like the guy but that was weird
I think he's been in America for too long now. Look what it's done to him
In the good old days when the rule of law still applied, it was called 'innocent until proven guilty'. In our modern day where MeToo and the People's Court rule, it is called 'guilty until proven innocent'. Call me old fashioned. But I'm more of a fan of good old safe days than modern uncertain times.
The ‘good old safe days’ have never existed for women.
It all started with the unproven allegations of Jimmy Savile.
Murray loves to judge, but he hates being judged.
Russell has more intelligence in his head than all 4 of you.
This is clearly a hit job. If these women really wanted justice they would go to the police with evidence. If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up but he's innocent until proven guilty in my view.
Even if he isn't innocent this is a hit job anyway. It's safe to assume that majority of people in high positions and celebrities are degenerates. It's not the existence of dirt on them but the time dirt surfaces and becomes news which makes it a hit.
But isn't it possible that 2 things can be true at the same time? Russell could have peed off the wrong person and now they are after him= this is a hit job, but he could have also abused those women back then as well. I mean that was the peak of his fame.
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And wait 20 years to make it an issue?.. get real! if it happened they were a part of it!…He has a big & loud mouth!… end the conversation isn’t to the liking many people… 🤐.
@richieallen2810 It's extremely difficult in most cases to prove that you were raped....it's usually your word against the rapist....so many rapes are not reported because of this....
@ellierivera5519 So if the issue is the content, then why only demonetisation? Why not use this opportunity to delete his entire youtube channel? They did it with another truther channel called Blackchild. He exposed the shady way Rihanna was running Fenty fashion. Using slave labour and exploiting customers in the USA. ThT was his last video. They took his whole channel away. Just deleted it. Why not do that to Russell? Perfect time under this guise.
He is much much bigger talent then both of these guys combined
And its obvious they are coming after him for the things he has been openly saying on his podcast
Yeah. Questioning the narratives on COVID and Ukraine, and calling out pharma and political corruption is getting awfully dangerous.
To be realistic - they've been 'coming after' this story for 4 years. Since he was a revolutionary socialist.
I don’t know who or what gave these panelists the power to categorise what should be joked about or how one’s imagination can run wild in their books 😢
He's pretty talented at making me laugh while breaking the sad truth of the world.
Piers Morgan. A man you would not let in your home.
WoW...haven't seen Mariella Fostrup in years.... she looks good still
@@orionxtc1119 Well said. She still looks banging.
Jeez, ceesmith, a man you would not let in your home.
@@orionxtc1119 Looks like something found in a tomb in Egypt
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Destroying a person with NO POLICE INVESTIGATION should be against the law. Might as well print that the PM traffics kids then someone else can take over. You should NOT be allowed to do this without due process and a trial.
Weinsteine was convicted after media accounts of his actions.
Correct me if I'm wrong
completely agree!
"should be against the law"
It is. RB can sue the papers for damages and the journalists can even be prosecuted if defamed him intentionally or with gross negligence.
I guess, this is not that case.
@@Threadbow you are actually wrong - so a correction is required ( as you asked), Harvey Weinstein was investigated, charged then brought to trail and convicted in court, that how it should happen ... I wouldn't want you on a jury , you have tendency to ignore the basic functions of the law and due process 🙄🤣
@@williamsmit619
The New York Times investigation that exposed producer Harvey Weinstein’s long history as a sexual predator set off a chain of events that led to prison for the Hollywood power broker and empowerment for women around the world who stepped up to share their own stories of abuse.
Twohey and Jodi Kantor shared a byline on that first blockbuster piece in the fall of 2017, part of a body of work that would earn their newspaper the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. NYT and New Yorker win joint Pulitzer for Weinstein exposé
*so you are wrong to correct me, it started the **#MeToo** you will no doubt have heard of*
They did a very good job of investigative journalism, got facts and then approached a long list of sources, persuaded them to tell their stories, then appealed to them to go public.
Actually
Days after the stories went to press, Weinstein was fired from the film studio he co-founded. Within months, he was arrested and charged with rape in New York. In February 2020, he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.
This is an offical execution of a mans character, without any evidence. Disgusting behaviour of these "journalists"
To be a casanova is not a crime. Nor is sexual addition.
* Addiction.
Left wing Peston's tutting smug face when Murray goes through the facts of the Left's love affair with Brand sums up their hypocrisy
He was aghast when Douglas sited the Guardian where pervie Pestons wife works, so two mad leftie wonks together going for an ex-leftie and there in is why they are all going for Brand now.
are YOU right wing?
@@morizwan123 I'm no wing.
@secondchance6603everyone to right of Marx is right wing now a days apparently
@@kinomusic9110 course you are.....and you have an issue with Left wing 🤣
12:07 the lady slandering RB as being “clearly a sex predator”… Let’s see what happens after any trial which may or may not take place. I hope she can defend that statement in court.
We’re still waiting nearly six months later - no surprises there then.
Wasn’t this supposed to be a discussion about why he has been cancelled when he hasn’t been charged?
Rich, famous, handsome, drug addicted man had numerous sexual encounters, and treats women badly. I am shocked. Said no one with any common sense. If there’s been a crime take it to the police. This is a carnival and it hurts women who have had serious crimes committed against them. Just stop it.
How many people has Piers upset? He better be careful as it only takes one accuser and a hungry media outlet to covict him.
The difference is Piers is an establishment lickspittle so will have their protection.
@@BrianBadondebowl And what was that?
And you’ve hit the nail on the head… this culture where a mere ACCUSATION results in your complete character assassination & career destroyed is repulsive. I guess the ‘Be Kind’ movement all these parasites signed up to has faded away after Caroline Flack?
@@BrianBadondebowl The scientific establishment as opposed to you. Good move Piers.
As an American I can attest to the lack of interest as no black people got oppressed.
Rent free
@@captaintosen23 * consequence free
What does that mean? Not everything is about race. And on this subject irrelevant.
😂😂 Brilliant
@@Roz-y2d it means all we have to do is keep arguing amongst ourselves so they can continue to do whatever it is that they do.
I'm disappointed by Douglas Murray. I used to respect his opinion but the fact he blows things off and labels everything as a "conspiracy" is just lazy.
Agreed. For years Brand expertly unpicked the lies around medically tyranny and Murray picks an example about lasers. Clumsy, lazy take.
Agree
I thought the same! Russell is very talented and eloquent!
He is usually non bias and respectful. He attacked Brand's career straight away.
What has changed is our understanding of what consent actually means. Years ago, the old joke was, "no means yes"; no self respecting young woman would tarnish her reputation and immediately capitulate to a male's sexual advances, so the man had to persevere in order to demonstrate his sincere desire to be with the woman. Somewhere in the midst of that often silent, complex transaction, the young lady maintained a certain virtue by not being easy, and the man, in persevering, signalled that he sought more than mere congress with the lady. The fact is, neither man nor woman knew exactly what signals they were meant to respond to. Though it's now easy to say consent must be overtly specified or declared by the woman (in heterosexual relations), most young people aren't drawing up an agreement when, after a night at a club or bar, they find themselves together. To suggest that consent can be given but also retracted at any time during an often intensely primal, clumsy ritual, and that it will be clearly understood by both parties, seems naive.