The first time I ever saw Brand on screen, I could see he was there as an icon of modern, egotistical decadence...the media culture that sponsored and promoted him, can't now pretend to be shocked by the depravity which so thrilled them from the outset.
I've never thought Brand displayed a clear ideology to be honest. Most of the stuff he spat out appeared to be grand standing without any real conviction.
….once an addict always an addict. Brand may have given up various previous addictions but then found a new way to satisfy his cravings and stay relevant.
@@cspace1234nzhe was never an Addict, it's all been an act Jordan Peterson does the same thing So does Tate And Crowder And Walsh Trump, Boris They all use the same techniques taught in Scientology The right wing has weaponised Cults
This guy perpetuated the laddish culture of the time. I really dont have much respect or time for tabloid reporters, expecially from that period. Bob Woodward he aint.
With the best will in the world, claiming you were “blinded by lad’s culture” is a poor excuse. From the start, many said that lad’s culture was materialistic, sensationalist and self-destructive. It isn’t at all surprising that it ended in misogyny. Grown men should have known better.
Maybe This lad wasn't a fully grown up or rounded person at the time. It seems quite a luxury to be conveniently distancing himself from that now he's in his 40s. I can't really trust him.
@@starmersbarber I thought the same thing. There's something about the readiness with which he sold his little bottom to Murdoch that gives me pause and the fact he speaks highly of people who made the same transaction feels curious. His inexplicably swift conversion since leaving feels a lot like another persona that he's sold himself - one minute he's a Lad, the next minute, a Thoughtful New Dad. None of it is credible.
They're all doing it There's a direct link between Scientology Trump and the techniques used by these right wing grifters, who also tie to NXIVM (Elon promoted it) Epstein (Trumps best friend for twenty years) and Saville (friends of the Queen whom Peterson and Piers defend) They're also all Catholic, many are Opus Dei Scientology is training these people in the tactics of brainwashing I've been researching this for years but couldn't find the school Scientology is the School It's what MK Ultra became It's probably run by the CIA, and Opus Dei, which is basically the same thing. They're all Catholics
Russell Brand could have slept with any groupie he wanted to, women, through themselves at him. The establishment wants to cancel Russell Brand just as they did to Tucker Carlson, and the reason they're going after Musk, Rogan, and trying to bankrupt Trump.
Gordon Smart claims he was "brought up to know right from wrong"...and YET, he jumped into this world of gossip, tabloid lies, drunkeness and I am sure drugs(although he doesn't mention that at all), and only now, questions it all. The fact is, that he and so many others, were intoxicated with fame, and mostly intoxicated with making MONEY and being closely aligned with the power that money and fame bring to people like the untalented Russell Brand, who wasn't funny a second in his sorry life. It shouldn't take a Ph.D. in neuroscience to see through Brand instantly. But hanging out with celebs with power and cash trumps ethics. I don't beleive Smart didn't hear about the appalling behavior against women that Brand is now finally being called out about. And btw, even some "lads" in their twenties have ethics and know full well not to participate in toxic male behavior or drunkeness, drugs and violence against women.
Totally agree with your assessment. Also, to add to that, it is infuriating when 15 years later people can turn around and say "oh but I cannot turn the clock back" - it's true, they cannot turn the clock back, so why do we wait until its too late to hold people to account?
I could not endure the whole interview. The bloke isn’t a serial killer. Many politicians have done much more harm. So we could easily forgive his missteps- if he bothered to ask. But the constant excuses were driving me up the wall. 12:53 Every child knows salacious gossip is wrong; that cruelty is wrong; that it’s more important to have self-respect than ambition; and it should not take much of a man to know that prurience is wrong. So, you don’t work for a rag. You don’t make a profit from misery. Just say: “Ambition got the better of me, I know better now, and I’m sorry.” It wasn’t like tabloid journalism and starvation were the only two options on the table.
He comes across as trying to do some damage limitation of any potential reputational questions that will come up due to his closeness to Brand for a span of time.
This guy is an enabler and he is using the same excuses, someone inheriting slaves used. It's not my fault that the culture I lived in was bad, even while I was the MAIN reason it continued to be bad.
I'm tuned into this with interest. To be honest, I don't trust this guy, given his 'formative adult years being immersed in a far from noble culture (and working for rags of newspapers). He has the relative luxury of being articulate enough (on the surface) to distance himself from the culture now....but HE was right there, living and breathing a very mucky scene.
Question: do you feel burning shame for being a tool of Murdock who’s been responsible for so much harm in British, American and Australian culture and politics? Brand is small potatoes compared to monster Murdock.
Great interview! Because the news agents has a more relaxed, conversational style I almost forgot what an awesome world class interviewer Maitlis is! You could almost see the wheels turning in her head as she was listening, particularly when he was talking about Murdoch, so she could determine the wider implications of what the guest was saying and quickly formulate direct follow up questions. I hope the podcast develops more opportunities for her to do what she is great at....being a quick witted, dogged journalist!
The quality of the interviewing on your show is off the scale.Truly outstanding questioning at a forensic level that is a rare on our main news channels today.Well done “ world class””
@esinach listen again, it's scattered all across this video if you want to see it. Your response tells me you wish for something else though because its so blatant, and I am guessing you're refusing to see it for some reason and suggesting i grasp at 'anything now'.
@@crazytrain7721 Nope. Im not as easy to jump into condemning someone for one interview. He obviously does have some regrets and things from that time - he even said it. But never did I hear anything about throwing him under the bus. It seems to me he believes the allegations. if that is throwing him under the bus. Then what is so wrong with that? If that's what he believes? I thought it sounded like he was still struggling coming to terms with it tbh. Him mentioning some of Brands qualities it seemed like he appreciated, like Brand wanting him to quit drinking etc. I don't think the only outcome of this interview is just thinking he's thrown him under the bus. He obviously will know more than a lot of us. And if he wanted to throw him under the bus, Im pretty sure he couldve said even more damning things than he did.
Funny how Murdoch claims he doesn't get involved in his papers yet here we see someone claiming Murdoch was hands-on during the Scottish independence referendum.
This was a great listen! A lot of very successful people are narcissists and have psychopathic traits. Well done for saying it! I am a bit chocked by the idealization of an individual like this and the aggressive attacks on the women. Like, how dare people assume… I don’t get it. It brings to mind the group think in a sect or cult…
He just seems (fake) to protect him self and his image / say all the right things( but worked at the sun for that long and didn’t understand the papers agenda or position in society)…. And deflect anything negative from his past roles.. Fake False and shady. Russel brands behaviour was created through people and institutions that this guy worked for and stood for! This guy would have loved mixing and hanging out with Russel for sure. Shame he didn’t speak truth but guess he’s protecting him self but still shady stay out of it if u don’t want look bad.
Courtney Love has publicly said she rejected Brands advances (apparently they are friends still) but also went on the record about a fling with Steve Coogan, what are the details that he does not want to say??
"the loopholes you have to jump through". A very revealing phrase in an unconvincing effort to justify working at the heart of Murdoch's empire and the culture it engendered, elevated and fed off
Oh come on...this is very very gossipy talk...what else to expect..these " journalists " 😂😂..throwing each other under the bus..what else is new if you work in a sleezy business
Were it not for our celebrity obsessed culture, including the culpability of journalists past and present, Brand would have been just another know-all gobshite, the sort found in every town/pub and avoided, with a groan, by those who know him.
Saying " i m a well educated, well mannered, ethical guy "....self proclaimed is always suspicious...he was there. Now he talks, using the airtime to say how well educated he himself is...weird..like Russell he speaks in this polished way but not 1 % of Russell s charisma...jalous ?? He was right then right there
I liked how most of the episode established that the media (in its various forms) has more power than politicians now. Then they asked Gordon whether it was the case and he claimed not.
Murdoch makes people like Trump and cancels them at his convenience....fox news one of the many creations costing him billions for creating narratives with global impact, putting people in place who are pure mobsters...how can anyone want to work for Murdoch. Worse ,who wants to work in the tabloid world...strange ambition.
This is ridiculously irresponsible, RB was accused, if we talk as if he is convicted the legal process ceases to have any meaning. This conversation alone is enough to enable RB lawyers to argue for the case to be dropped. What are you doing? Is this just entertainment??
If it does go to court, it will most likely be for accusations not mentioned in the original documentary/story, thats what I think happened with Harvey Weinstein,
And what about all the women who used to "throw themselves" at Russell Brand? And that this is well known (as mentioned here) in celebrity circles? Well let's not hold any of those women to account!! Russell has been pretty transparent about his past behaviour and has apparently changed. Shouldn't this mean that we should change our view of all this?
“Hold them to account”? What exactly are you alleging these women did, other than consensual acts? It’s the stuff that Brand is alleged to have done that WASN’T consensual that has landed him in so much trouble.
Wait wait wait. Here we have s guy saying 'it was a culture that I was caught up in' whilst condemning Russell Brand's actions. At which point will be he man enough to see himself in the mirror of Russell Brand?
Why legitimise a person like this? Sorry, I can't call anyone who's worked at the Sun a 'journalist'. This pod is sinking into relativism. So disappointing.
Like the Savile phenomena; a creep hiding in plain sight, surfing the tide of supplicant media. Brand looks like such a dinosaur now, still he has his millions to count as his infamy fades.
Been really enjoying these so far but this one turned me right off. I thought this was supposed to be serious journalism and then you have hack from the sun as special guest. Disappointed
Hmmm a missed opportunity to get some real insight into the much buried Dan Wootton story. After all his career was similar. Strangely GB news is still monetised despite more mounting evidence than RB..........
Interesting that he claims Brand is a sociopath or psychopath, which is purely an opinion of someone with no qualifications in the field and they both lap it up without any scrutiny, and then goes on to say that a medical addiction to a drug is different to a behavioural addiction - and Maitlis is equally clueless about addiction, so they are fully aligned on that. Tell me how the "criminal investigation" is going...
Too many words, where do these people find peace, constantly talking? Knitting, baking, fishing. Pottery? This isn't journalism, it's gossip and name dropping. Shaun is dead in the head. He thinks he's wonderful.
Consider this - UK celebrity culture has a questionable line going back to Savile. Look at Celebrity Juice over the past few years. Holly Willoughby joking with Keith Lemon about him 'coming on her face' and his many references to her 'bush' which she indulges , guests Susanna Reid describing 'licking other women out' as a 'special skill' and Amanda Holden talking about '69' are openly available on youtube and itv2 catch-up. The only guest who looked uneasy was Christine Bleakley when Lemon referred to her 'not being able to walk for a week' if he got hold of her. This 'frat boy' climate is/was/has been encouraged since at least the 1970s [ eg Tiswas into OTT ] and the pressure on women to humour it and audiences to laugh along is intense. Poor old Russell must have got some mixed messages or what? Brand is clearly a problem & history shows he's not the only one
Brand as facade/cliche simply took what the Music Biz historically had kept for itself - the drink/drugs/groupie exploitation culture and put it in front of TV Cameras as light entertainment. He's just one more high profile stomach-turner who could exploit his good fortune, and no doubt continues to do so.
Goodall's intro. was very boring. Stick to print. Also the use of 'we' - as in 'we put him on a pedestal' - not 'we' didn't ALL do that - quite a lot of us decided he was a waste of space : a grubby, gangly. semi-articulate pain - and caught up on our sleep instead. Try putting your judgement to use once in a while, care a bit more about your younger and more vulnerable friends, and you will not get conned quite so easily.
….once an addict always an addict. Brand may gave sobered up, got married and had a couple of kids (that’s called growing up to the rest of us) but it still doesn’t mean he’s not guilty of serious crimes and your chickens always come home to roost, especially when you draw as much attention to yourself as he does
The fact he denies everything shows he has not bettered himself at all. If he had truly evolved he would take responsibility for his actions and not further damage the victims with his denials and beseeching his followers to question their accounts.
@@Lollipop_Lexi ….yep, seems that just like that Andrew Tate critter, even those they teach personal responsibility they take no personal responsibility for their own actions and instead blame the imaginary ‘matrix’
Psychopathy is a personality trate and is that part of his face he shows in show business like his book could be completely made up..but what we call 'resting face' can look angry in people with psychological issues like autistic people can show anger in their 'resting face '. eldest brother and myself both show angry 're sting face but when we usually have daft grins on our faces so might be just shock for people when they see us thinking.😂
well by that logic the journalists who investigated and covered the subject as well as the "mainstream news media" are also innocent of "slander and conspiracy" until proven guilty... you can't have the rule of law only apply to you guru.
Again I think you failed your in this discussion, because your focus was solely on Russell Brand and your hatred towards him, maybe you should dedicate some time to the culture that indulge, platformed and celebrated him, I understand you work bbc and that makes it tricky for you to have an honest, broad range discussion .....
This is exactly why this can and should only be spoken of in court. Journalists talking to journalists?? This is a strange talk about a time that everyone bought into at the time
The first time I ever saw Brand on screen, I could see he was there as an icon of modern, egotistical decadence...the media culture that sponsored and promoted him, can't now pretend to be shocked by the depravity which so thrilled them from the outset.
Like a Savile; a creep hiding in plain sight, surfing the tide of supplicant media.
Completely agree
I saw a talentless, try-hard nobody. Nothing has dissuaded me from that first impression.
No such thing as a journalist that works for the sun
I nearly turned off when I heard his credentials.
I've never thought Brand displayed a clear ideology to be honest. Most of the stuff he spat out appeared to be grand standing without any real conviction.
….once an addict always an addict. Brand may have given up various previous addictions but then found a new way to satisfy his cravings and stay relevant.
People praise him for his palette of words from the Lexicon Of Bullsh*t.
@@StratsRUs ….otherwise known as verbal diarrhoea ?
I like to call it ... gobshite'ing
@@cspace1234nzhe was never an Addict, it's all been an act
Jordan Peterson does the same thing
So does Tate
And Crowder
And Walsh
Trump, Boris
They all use the same techniques taught in Scientology
The right wing has weaponised Cults
This guy perpetuated the laddish culture of the time. I really dont have much respect or time for tabloid reporters, expecially from that period. Bob Woodward he aint.
As an American/Canadian, It's the first time I subscribed to a foreign news podcast and I say enjoy it's refreshing to watch "The News Agents."
The "real" Russell Brand??
There is no real Russell Brand. Just a void where his personality should be. The man is pure ego & narcissism.
Just a plain silly and vacuously pointless thing to say.
@@opinion3742 ...except it isn't is it. Narcissism and abuse often go hand in hand.
Agreed, I don't think we actually know what Brands true political positions are.
@@MrBarry465 ...I don't think he has a true political position. Its all just smoke and mirrors.
@@BosskV2 correct he just plays up to the cheap seats.
With the best will in the world, claiming you were “blinded by lad’s culture” is a poor excuse. From the start, many said that lad’s culture was materialistic, sensationalist and self-destructive. It isn’t at all surprising that it ended in misogyny. Grown men should have known better.
Maybe This lad wasn't a fully grown up or rounded person at the time. It seems quite a luxury to be conveniently distancing himself from that now he's in his 40s. I can't really trust him.
@@starmersbarber I thought the same thing. There's something about the readiness with which he sold his little bottom to Murdoch that gives me pause and the fact he speaks highly of people who made the same transaction feels curious. His inexplicably swift conversion since leaving feels a lot like another persona that he's sold himself - one minute he's a Lad, the next minute, a Thoughtful New Dad. None of it is credible.
Convenient for him
They're all doing it
There's a direct link between Scientology Trump and the techniques used by these right wing grifters, who also tie to NXIVM (Elon promoted it) Epstein (Trumps best friend for twenty years) and Saville (friends of the Queen whom Peterson and Piers defend)
They're also all Catholic, many are Opus Dei
Scientology is training these people in the tactics of brainwashing
I've been researching this for years but couldn't find the school
Scientology is the School
It's what MK Ultra became
It's probably run by the CIA, and Opus Dei, which is basically the same thing.
They're all Catholics
Russell Brand could have slept with any groupie he wanted to, women, through themselves at him. The establishment wants to cancel Russell Brand just as they did to Tucker Carlson, and the reason they're going after Musk, Rogan, and trying to bankrupt Trump.
Gordon Smart claims he was "brought up to know right from wrong"...and YET, he jumped into this world of gossip, tabloid lies, drunkeness and I am sure drugs(although he doesn't mention that at all), and only now, questions it all. The fact is, that he and so many others, were intoxicated with fame, and mostly intoxicated with making MONEY and being closely aligned with the power that money and fame bring to people like the untalented Russell Brand, who wasn't funny a second in his sorry life. It shouldn't take a Ph.D. in neuroscience to see through Brand instantly. But hanging out with celebs with power and cash trumps ethics. I don't beleive Smart didn't hear about the appalling behavior against women that Brand is now finally being called out about. And btw, even some "lads" in their twenties have ethics and know full well not to participate in toxic male behavior or drunkeness, drugs and violence against women.
Exactly! He's one year older than me, yet doesn't seem to have been as wise about The Sun as I am and most people I know.
Totally agree with your assessment. Also, to add to that, it is infuriating when 15 years later people can turn around and say "oh but I cannot turn the clock back" - it's true, they cannot turn the clock back, so why do we wait until its too late to hold people to account?
I could not endure the whole interview. The bloke isn’t a serial killer. Many politicians have done much more harm. So we could easily forgive his missteps- if he bothered to ask. But the constant excuses were driving me up the wall. 12:53
Every child knows salacious gossip is wrong; that cruelty is wrong; that it’s more important to have self-respect than ambition; and it should not take much of a man to know that prurience is wrong. So, you don’t work for a rag. You don’t make a profit from misery. Just say: “Ambition got the better of me, I know better now, and I’m sorry.”
It wasn’t like tabloid journalism and starvation were the only two options on the table.
@@scepticalsaint 💯
He comes across as trying to do some damage limitation of any potential reputational questions that will come up due to his closeness to Brand for a span of time.
The rich and powerful are given the benefit of doubt, meanwhile, the poor and powerless are presumed guilty..
Rich poweful and white....
But brand is rich & powerful yet is being found guilty before being given the chance to defend himself so your comment makes no sense...
he's not being found nothing, its not been to court.@@matthewjames7268
Compared to Murdoch he's not rich
@@rahuldahoobAnd, he dated a roetchield 🤣🤣🤣🤣 These people are so thick
This guy is an enabler and he is using the same excuses, someone inheriting slaves used. It's not my fault that the culture I lived in was bad, even while I was the MAIN reason it continued to be bad.
I'm tuned into this with interest. To be honest, I don't trust this guy, given his 'formative adult years being immersed in a far from noble culture (and working for rags of newspapers). He has the relative luxury of being articulate enough (on the surface) to distance himself from the culture now....but HE was right there, living and breathing a very mucky scene.
Question: do you feel burning shame for being a tool of Murdock who’s been responsible for so much harm in British, American and Australian culture and politics? Brand is small potatoes compared to monster Murdock.
Brand is a perfect example of a Messianic personality.
Same as David Icke
Nah. He's just a narcisist playing the part of a massiah, he knows he's not a messiah, he's just playing the part and laughing at his followers.
@@kathrynbeetham5308amen
But ist that all rock star personalities
Now he’s up on the crucifix!
Great interview! Because the news agents has a more relaxed, conversational style I almost forgot what an awesome world class interviewer Maitlis is! You could almost see the wheels turning in her head as she was listening, particularly when he was talking about Murdoch, so she could determine the wider implications of what the guest was saying and quickly formulate direct follow up questions. I hope the podcast develops more opportunities for her to do what she is great at....being a quick witted, dogged journalist!
Saying that Murdoch has no influence on politics is a joke.
The quality of the interviewing on your show is off the scale.Truly outstanding questioning at a forensic level that is a rare on our main news channels today.Well done “ world class””
@@gpw203then I think you need better glasses
Compare this to amateur 'interviewers' such as Rees-Mogg and Nadir Dorries. Chalk and cheese.
Sounds to me like he's trying to throw Russell under the bus to save himsel, doesn't it!
I agree, it did have a whiff of that. There was deliberate and slightly jarring framing which left me questioning his motives.
Not to me it wasn't. Why did you think that? Or just grasping at anything now?
@esinach listen again, it's scattered all across this video if you want to see it. Your response tells me you wish for something else though because its so blatant, and I am guessing you're refusing to see it for some reason and suggesting i grasp at 'anything now'.
@@crazytrain7721 Nope. Im not as easy to jump into condemning someone for one interview. He obviously does have some regrets and things from that time - he even said it. But never did I hear anything about throwing him under the bus. It seems to me he believes the allegations. if that is throwing him under the bus. Then what is so wrong with that? If that's what he believes?
I thought it sounded like he was still struggling coming to terms with it tbh. Him mentioning some of Brands qualities it seemed like he appreciated, like Brand wanting him to quit drinking etc.
I don't think the only outcome of this interview is just thinking he's thrown him under the bus. He obviously will know more than a lot of us. And if he wanted to throw him under the bus, Im pretty sure he couldve said even more damning things than he did.
Very much so. He should just stay out of it and wait for some actual charges or something.
Funny how Murdoch claims he doesn't get involved in his papers yet here we see someone claiming Murdoch was hands-on during the Scottish independence referendum.
This was a great listen! A lot of very successful people are narcissists and have psychopathic traits. Well done for saying it! I am a bit chocked by the idealization of an individual like this and the aggressive attacks on the women. Like, how dare people assume… I don’t get it. It brings to mind the group think in a sect or cult…
Hindsight is such a luxury. We can only be accountable for our own behaviour.
Working for Murdoch should be illegal
Murdoch should be illegal.
The time of celebrities is over.
It’s what we celebrate
He just seems (fake) to protect him self and his image / say all the right things( but worked at the sun for that long and didn’t understand the papers agenda or position in society)…. And deflect anything negative from his past roles.. Fake False and shady. Russel brands behaviour was created through people and institutions that this guy worked for and stood for! This guy would have loved mixing and hanging out with Russel for sure. Shame he didn’t speak truth but guess he’s protecting him self but still shady stay out of it if u don’t want look bad.
Capitalism*
Because people are too busy trying to pay the bills to get involved in other people's lives
Start with David Koresh, add a healthy dollop of PT Barnum, and a dash of Charles Manson.
Scientology is what connects them to Trump and Epstein
They're also all Jesuits
the more I see of Brand the more i'm getting the whole Jim Jones/Koresh cult vibes!
Courtney Love has publicly said she rejected Brands advances (apparently they are friends still) but also went on the record about a fling with Steve Coogan, what are the details that he does not want to say??
I'm sure if you dug into any one of those 3 panelists you'd find some skeletons in their closet as well.
That’s too broad a statement, Rose and Fred West had skeletons, literally, there’s a sliding scale.
Tbronk. Absolutely agree with you
"the loopholes you have to jump through". A very revealing phrase in an unconvincing effort to justify working at the heart of Murdoch's empire and the culture it engendered, elevated and fed off
He still sticks up for the big boss and his son.
Oh come on...this is very very gossipy talk...what else to expect..these " journalists " 😂😂..throwing each other under the bus..what else is new if you work in a sleezy business
Were it not for our celebrity obsessed culture, including the culpability of journalists past and present, Brand would have been just another know-all gobshite, the sort found in every town/pub and avoided, with a groan, by those who know him.
Saying " i m a well educated, well mannered, ethical guy "....self proclaimed is always suspicious...he was there. Now he talks, using the airtime to say how well educated he himself is...weird..like Russell he speaks in this polished way but not 1 % of Russell s charisma...jalous ?? He was right then right there
I liked how most of the episode established that the media (in its various forms) has more power than politicians now. Then they asked Gordon whether it was the case and he claimed not.
Poor, decent guy....at all happened around him, bless.
Give him a break, he’s a creep………gives himself a pass. Hypocrite……
Awesome interviewee. And great questions.
Why should we trust a tabloid journalist??
Brand belongs in prison not just demonotized
The fact that the instructions protected brand is as bad as brand behaviour.
If he has serious concerns about other people why not go to the police? Its obviously STILL going on
So you decided to get a gossip columnist formerly employed by Rupert Murdoch just to get a bit of balance.
Alrighty then.
An intelligent interview which is so nice to see! Shame about the less intelligent comments!
Brilliant investigative journalism? In the tabloid world....is this a ' cover all our behinds ' interview ?
Murdoch empire was and still is the king maker of Uk politics, Blair, Cameron, Boris, next Starmer will be anointed.
Murdoch makes people like Trump and cancels them at his convenience....fox news one of the many creations costing him billions for creating narratives with global impact, putting people in place who are pure mobsters...how can anyone want to work for Murdoch. Worse ,who wants to work in the tabloid world...strange ambition.
This is ridiculously irresponsible, RB was accused, if we talk as if he is convicted the legal process ceases to have any meaning. This conversation alone is enough to enable RB lawyers to argue for the case to be dropped. What are you doing? Is this just entertainment??
Right!!! All double speaking, gaslighting BS!!
If it does go to court, it will most likely be for accusations not mentioned in the original documentary/story, thats what I think happened with Harvey Weinstein,
Quite possibly one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Gordon comes across as a very transparent guy. Fascinating on so many levels.
Now we have cancel culture, extreme gender politics, critical race theory, thought police censure...
Race doesn't exist, YT man created that fake socio-constructed...
He has bad karma
You sound disappointed
So some progress has been made.
“ . . . Managing Rupert Murdoch’s interests . . .” Says it all.
A great insight into a world I, along with many others, know exists but know almost nothing about. A compelling interview.
Claiming this was an episode in showbiz history is missing the wider truth ; lying and narcissism is now the norm in the public space.
I enjoy all these podcasts
And what about all the women who used to "throw themselves" at Russell Brand? And that this is well known (as mentioned here) in celebrity circles? Well let's not hold any of those women to account!! Russell has been pretty transparent about his past behaviour and has apparently changed. Shouldn't this mean that we should change our view of all this?
….doesn’t mean in amongst all that consensual legal behavior that he didn’t still commit serious crimes
“Hold them to account”? What exactly are you alleging these women did, other than consensual acts? It’s the stuff that Brand is alleged to have done that WASN’T consensual that has landed him in so much trouble.
What about them?
A fascinating interview.
we need Russel Brands ground breaking journalism back on air -- instead of this idiot from the Sun
Says a lot without saying very much. Slick Gordon, slick.
"There's nothing I could do about it now".
Really? Do you honestly think that?
“The loopholes you have to jump through”!
Ha yes, I noticed that as well. Not hoops, loopholes!
So you've invited one of his enablers, cheer leaders and profiteers to talk about what a narcissist Brand was. Hmmmmm. OK.
Fascinating thank you. ❤
Wait wait wait. Here we have s guy saying 'it was a culture that I was caught up in' whilst condemning Russell Brand's actions. At which point will be he man enough to see himself in the mirror of Russell Brand?
excellent show
More like the Richard and Judy show
Brand didn't throw his dog down the stairs. At least get those details correct, it's written in his book.
Yeah he kicked it down the stairs.
This guy is part of the problem and this a poor attempt at deflection and obfuscation
Why legitimise a person like this? Sorry, I can't call anyone who's worked at the Sun a 'journalist'. This pod is sinking into relativism. So disappointing.
Like the Savile phenomena; a creep hiding in plain sight, surfing the tide of supplicant media. Brand looks like such a dinosaur now, still he has his millions to count as his infamy fades.
You took the diggers money, you take the consequences.....
come on, rupert made politician deny climate catastrophy, that's on him
Mate, look up from your phone
Difference between for example Russel v Andrew Tate, Brand regret and change.
Asking if he knows other victims??? Watch your boundaries lady
Been really enjoying these so far but this one turned me right off. I thought this was supposed to be serious journalism and then you have hack from the sun as special guest. Disappointed
Mental take.
@@esinach if it’s mental to think that anyone who edited the sun is lacking in honesty and credibility then lock me up
Hmmm a missed opportunity to get some real insight into the much buried Dan Wootton story. After all his career was similar. Strangely GB news is still monetised despite more mounting evidence than RB..........
Interesting that he claims Brand is a sociopath or psychopath, which is purely an opinion of someone with no qualifications in the field and they both lap it up without any scrutiny, and then goes on to say that a medical addiction to a drug is different to a behavioural addiction - and Maitlis is equally clueless about addiction, so they are fully aligned on that. Tell me how the "criminal investigation" is going...
Could try asking Russel…
Brilliant interview
Too many words, where do these people find peace, constantly talking? Knitting, baking, fishing. Pottery? This isn't journalism, it's gossip and name dropping. Shaun is dead in the head. He thinks he's wonderful.
No sound!
Murdoch...hmmm...such a reliable humanitarian contributing to a better world 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pedafilia
Such a right wing family value
He is not 6f3 maybe with his boots on and hair.
Consider this - UK celebrity culture has a questionable line going back to Savile. Look at Celebrity Juice over the past few years. Holly Willoughby joking with Keith Lemon about him 'coming on her face' and his many references to her 'bush' which she indulges , guests Susanna Reid describing 'licking other women out' as a 'special skill' and Amanda Holden talking about '69' are openly available on youtube and itv2 catch-up. The only guest who looked uneasy was Christine Bleakley when Lemon referred to her 'not being able to walk for a week' if he got hold of her. This 'frat boy' climate is/was/has been encouraged since at least the 1970s [ eg Tiswas into OTT ] and the pressure on women to humour it and audiences to laugh along is intense. Poor old Russell must have got some mixed messages or what? Brand is clearly a problem & history shows he's not the only one
You've somehow found someone to interview more awful that Russell Brand
Contempt of court?
Brand as facade/cliche simply took what the Music Biz historically had kept for itself - the drink/drugs/groupie exploitation culture and put it in front of TV Cameras as light entertainment. He's just one more high profile stomach-turner who could exploit his good fortune, and no doubt continues to do so.
The madness of Fame!
The huw edwards comments from Emily have aged badly
Great interview!
Goodall's intro. was very boring. Stick to print. Also the use of 'we' - as in 'we put him on a pedestal' - not 'we' didn't ALL do that - quite a lot of us decided he was a waste of space : a grubby, gangly. semi-articulate pain - and caught up on our sleep instead. Try putting your judgement to use once in a while, care a bit more about your younger and more vulnerable friends, and you will not get conned quite so easily.
Can we get Gordon back again? Just fascinating.
... and, he portrays himself as a victim 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ohhhhh, poor Gordon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s all a bit puritanical….
He’s very disingenuous, since when has having nothing to hide stopped the tabloids!!!
Russel Brand has grown up l think and it was many years ago . He’s a better man don’t you think
….once an addict always an addict. Brand may gave sobered up, got married and had a couple of kids (that’s called growing up to the rest of us) but it still doesn’t mean he’s not guilty of serious crimes and your chickens always come home to roost, especially when you draw as much attention to yourself as he does
He was a grown up when he went out with that 16 year old.
The fact he denies everything shows he has not bettered himself at all. If he had truly evolved he would take responsibility for his actions and not further damage the victims with his denials and beseeching his followers to question their accounts.
@@Lollipop_Lexi ….yep, seems that just like that Andrew Tate critter, even those they teach personal responsibility they take no personal responsibility for their own actions and instead blame the imaginary ‘matrix’
We all new …. Come on if you were around it you new ……
the Nuremberg Defence 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 pathetic!
Psychopathy is a personality trate and is that part of his face he shows in show business like his book could be completely made up..but what we call 'resting face' can look angry in people with psychological issues like autistic people can show anger in their 'resting face '. eldest brother and myself both show angry 're sting face but when we usually have daft grins on our faces so might be just shock for people when they see us thinking.😂
This guy is so facile.
16.37... language Emily.😮
2001..euhmmm 2021
Innocent until proven guilty in a court. That’s it. Not before. Shame on you all 😮⁉️⁉️⁉️❌❌❌
well by that logic the journalists who investigated and covered the subject as well as the "mainstream news media" are also innocent of "slander and conspiracy" until proven guilty... you can't have the rule of law only apply to you guru.
Artful dodger even post S*n. Can't be too careful ey
Again I think you failed your in this discussion, because your focus was solely on Russell Brand and your hatred towards him, maybe you should dedicate some time to the culture that indulge, platformed and celebrated him, I understand you work bbc and that makes it tricky for you to have an honest, broad range discussion .....
This is exactly why this can and should only be spoken of in court. Journalists talking to journalists?? This is a strange talk about a time that everyone bought into at the time