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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2023
- Laurence Fox's weird sexist rant last night on GB News got short shrift from the organisation which immediately suspended him from the platform, and followed on later by suspending their presenter, Dan Wootton.
But GB news has still got plenty of presenters on its books who spout conspiracy, confect outrage, and misinform. This didnt come from nowhere - so why is everyone suddenly arguing this is a turning point for the fledgling broadcaster? We discuss the growth and the direction of GB News.
Later, We look at 'the Voice' referendum in Australia into Aboriginal representation. Is this the Aussie's brexit moment? And will it tear the country apart?
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The problem is that there has been a push to present opinion alongside fact and to debate the two positions as if they were equivalent. This was the point when News started jumping the shark and News programs moved the needle from reporting and exploring to inform to chasing ratings to satisfy shareholders. There is a lack of gravitas and holding to account of people from a regulatory point of view and standards are falling into parody. If OFCOM was able to hold the line with real and legal sanctions we might get our news back. I trained as a broadcast journalist and I am now shocked at how loaded the news is with timid reporting and timid challenges. There seems to be a tendency to protect the status quo even to the detriment of the nation. The fourth estate is colonised by a revolving door support for big businesses and parliament.
Conspiracy or facts… the MSM coverage during the Covid 19 era was one sided & not open for debate.
Ummm 🤔
Meanwhile we now know who was partying hard & who made billions out of a moody pandemic.
Yes and it seems much more obvious in recent times. BBC seem really timid to me recently, not sure if management, editorial direction or perhaps, the fear of presenters & journalists. The kind of relentless attacks by GB News, tabloids & Govt eg. Lineker, Hu Edwards, Fiona Bruce, Laura K - right & left too who feel disappointed. Ofc funding is a big part of it & BBC constantly threatened on licence fee by ministers & rw media. Think they’re in v hard place between a controlling rw Govt and expected new Lab Govt soon. ITV seem much freer in their coverage these days.
start with the BBC and the way these Ultra HARD LEFT extremists ruined BBC Newsnight with their hatred of Britain. Paid by China ? Possibly.
Wonderful comment
Why is there even an ofcom? There’s no equivalent of it in the USA (at least the part where a government agency audit speech on TV and radio). It’s ridiculous!!!
Imagine falling below the threshold of what's considered appropriate on GBNews.
Whats wrong with it ?
I blame Murdoch style news infecting both Countries as his last attempt at leaving his mark before he passes , the situation is almost identical , although differing variables the overarching narrative is the same
You’re right. He will have many things to answer for well into the future, even after his death.
While he burns I expect.
Well we did spend twenty years ethnically cleansing the ME on behalf of israel based on lies
What did you think would happen _exactly?_
As another poster has indicated: Root cause is Murdoch. He laid the foundations for the normalisation of the outrageous distortion of reality.
Such a great show. It took me a year to get on the 'News Agents' train and I'm glad I did.
I’m,afraid the trains left me at the station. Just don’t get « it ».
You must be brain dead if your leaving the likes of Lewis Goodall and Emily Maitliss to do your thinking for you.
I was just going to say the same about GB News
@@TayloradriftSay it
It's not for me but I can see how it would appeal to left wing soy boys and men with vaginas.
The gap in the market was due to people like yourselves.Well done.
Two Jewish 'News Agent's not mentiong Israel bombing Gazza. Surely this is a story worth covering.
The BBC and ITN news are not what they were when I was scholastic. Breakfast news dumbed the whole info process. Bring back the stylings of Gordon Honeycomb and Brian Walden
sadly they are dead, so not much chance of that happening.
@stewartlancaster6155 thats why i said stylings
It's a bigger audience than you people think
As the cynic I have to ask myself the question: at what stage did GBN recognize the massive opportunity that was presented to them? Did they see the potential for outrage right from the outset, at the editorial level and rolled with it, or did they see it from the media reaction afterwards?...whichever it is that`s not important, because all this has done is giving them a massive publicity boost and put them firmly in the public eye: sure there will be an inquiry, and some heads might roll, but it is a small price to pay for the reach into the mainstream consciousness they might gain from it....outrage factory indeed.
In what sense are the BBC and ITV “impartial”???
Who is staffing and running Ofcom ?
The Old Boys' Network.
Who funds GBN ?
Russia
@@EdgarDebruin-ti8gi😂😂😂 no!
Am glad The News Agents is downloading full episodes, thank you.
3 ex BBC persons who on this show admit to their leftist beliefs l, are telling you the BBC is not bias!!!
@@hus390grow up
@@hus390 There's as many people saying that the BBC news department is bias to the right.
I have nothing against GB News existing, even though it presents views diametrically opposed to mine, but I do have a lot against abusive and indecent behaviour by presenters on any channel!
It should be re-named 'Some Views'. It's not News, and it defames our country to pose as 'GB'.
I've heard far more offensive comments on some of the mainstream media channels and yet they never get called out Why is that?
@@MsJackrussell2 really? like what?
@@dibdab101 Like a Channel 4 newscaster calling a Minister an extremely offensive four letter word. The newscaster was off for a week, then reinstated.
@@MsJackrussell2 sorry you gonna have to be a little more specific for me to recall... And by what you're saying some action was taken.
Closed shop. Don’t want competition.
3 ex BBC persons who on this show admit to their leftist beliefs l, are telling you the BBC is not bias!!!
You have to be join she is absolutely toxic towards men!
The reason GBN want to investigate' is not to make clear who did what and who knew, but to wait and see what becomes public knowledge about who did what and who knew. That way they can protect producers and other staff even though they are most likely as much a part of it as Wootton and Fox
Yes and to see if public reaction calms down in few days / weeks and they can get a way with apology & slap on wrist. Also think if they do want to get rid of Fox & Wootton now (as too much of a liability now) the guys will fight back hard & drop GBN right in it too😂.
We need to talk about left wing BBC rejects.
I know 11 year olds with infinitly more maturity than Fox.
I'm not defending Fox but did you see the content that started this affair? If no go take a look.
Wooton has just been fired from Daily Mail.
yay
@@beaulieuc8910 right after Laurence Fox threw him under the bus. No honour amongst thieves.
About time
And their bar is so low!!
GB News sound like Fox News in the US.
more like newsmax i think.
@@kanedNunable I’ve only watched a few Newsmax online. I’m talking Fox when Bill O and Tucker, et all. More commentator / pundits spouting the BS their listeners want to hear.
CNN no bias?
BBC and Sky news impartial? 😂
GB News is much more accessible online than BBC or ITN news. For example ITN news is 24 hours in arrears on RUclips. And why has no one mentioned Piers Morgan?
This is absolutely disgraceful
GB news covers things that other news wont. Also LBC gives airtime to politicians. Do you call out David Lammy using the channel.
Half your country voted for Brexit and anyone is surprised that GB News has found an audience?
Correction half those that participated in the vote roughly 17.5m. No where near half. Also GB News viewing figures are roughly 36,000.
There is hope. Most people in the UK are still decent & fair minded.
17 million voted to leave the EU. Hardly half
It seems a lot of the audience is people scrutinising it closely looking to be offended .
Leftist Woke propaganda will not shut us up
@@1inchPunchBowlright, the other half couldn’t Bellevue be bothered to get out of bed for the biggest vote in UK history
The concept of balance at GBN is right and far right. But, they do want Ofcom to go after then for the “we told you so”
BTW, they more like NewsMax or OAN in the states, not Fox News
Ofcom is to silence the general public, this is just being used as a front because they know the general public would lose their shxt if they came out and told the truth!!
@@regwedde Not really. When you check media bias site, ITV is slightly right, Sky is almost central, BBC is slightly left, Channel 4 is the most left. I'd say that's actually reasonably fairly balanced. Compared to the UK print media, broadcast media is positively balanced on the head of a needle.
What is far right? Also who are the far left?
Emily asked the key question at the start but it wasn’t answered… where is the audience coming from? Why is this message appealing to them in such numbers?
They're the same ppl who believed farage
The huge silent majority. Law abiding, patriotic lower middle/middle class. On my rounds canvassing I’m overwhelmed by how many watch it to the exclusion of all other news channels.
Have seldom heard something so utterly abhorrent and vile on broadcast TV! This has nothing to do with free speech but everything to do with enabling the poisoning of public discourse!
Agree with you 💯.😁👍
You remember what was said about JK Rowling from people on the MSM ....balance
Gordon Brown on Sky News implied hes not impressed with GB news ? Hes forgotton that he called that lady a Bigot. The left dont like free speech and will try to shut down alterative voices
agreed...but GBN must be rubbing their hands in glee at the massive publicity this has given them. Watch their numbers increase over the next week or so.
Are you refering to Maitlis's unhinged rant?
Isn't that Billie Piper's ex-husband?
The important bit of that is "ex"
Meanwhile BBC are sitting eating popcorn loving all this
Where was the BBCs impartiality during the British Brexit campaign? I went to GBNews as soon zs it was on air because I was sick of Question Time having 1 Brexiteer and 5 Remainers on the Panel year in and year out. The BBC News would give space for a Remainer MP to share their view, but cut a Brexiteer off when they began to make a salient point!
Laurence Fox & Dan Wootton need to be sacked ! GBN reported
The more you speak the lie, the more it becomes truth.
Any chance of showing why he made those comments, it might bring some context to why he was upset,
I know. As someone whose had a family member commit suicide, I've tried explaining, but the ideologically brainwashed don't care.
If someone has an issue with someone else they perceive to be downplaying a serious issue like the astonishing prevalence of suicide amongst men (which I think is what you're coyly getting at), a better rebuttal might involve attacking the points made rather than claiming that the person who made them is unfuckable.
Fox revealed he's just a nasty sexist who was looking to have a pop rather than someone actually concerned by the very real issue of the male mental health crisis.
Patel and Braverman love GB News. Tells you a lot.
I think your analysis of the Lawrence Fox/GB News issue is fine as far as it goes but remains squarely in the frame. I think the advantages the attention industry and outrage manufacturers have alighted on are the issues that the more main stream have avoided or alternatively have offered a status quo analysis on, particularly on the economic front since 2008.
100 %
Three stoogies
Can anyone point me to BBC etc giving any time to people who are skeptical of the climate narrative? Any items on excess deaths on ITV? Or how about anyone addressing the many free speech issues that are prevalent?
I can and will make a comment if I want , its called free speech
Of course ,but if its deemed offensive take cover
True enough. But other people have a right to free speech too and they are perfectly entitled to use that right to criticise you if they don’t like what you have to say.
Very well argued. Regulation is behind this very dangerous curve.
I lived in Darwin as a kid in the early 80’s. The biggest problem with Aborigines & Torres Strait Islanders is that they’re a nomadic people’s and they’re being forced to live in the one place in a “white mans” house & worship Christianity, which has totally changed their culture. As a result there is a massive mental health crisis within that demographic which is being self medicated with alcohol & drugs and has this has gone on for decades and decades. This has then caused the break down of family units etc. and thus later generations have never had a chance.
What do you think the answer could be?
Spiteful bile by hypocrites in an echo camber.
I remember some "comedienne" was given airtime to joke about acid being thrown in Boris Johndon,'s face but no one called for the tv stn to be closed down.
I no longer listen to these three because they have nothing to say. Talking about conspiracy theories wasn't it once called a conspiracy theory to say that Covid was released from a Lab?
Hi from Germany. Why do I keep thinking Goebbels would have had a show on GB TV if he could have.
dummkoph
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Well said. We have to guard against the areas where extreme opinion might slide into extreme action.
Have any of these three said anything of interest or insightful ?
There is no regulator, it's a sham, a servant of the Tories/Fascists.
Agree with you 💯.🙂👍
Realists more like
More conspiracy drivel. There clearly is a regulator you numpty.
So obvious.
Plus, bigots want their racism and misogyny ...and there's a lot of these around that require that fix.
Labour are far left.
Is GBnews inflential or just attracting an audience that was out there anyway. And does their audience consist of people who genuinely believe or just people who love being outraged. How about the Daily Mail if it couldn't feed and stoke it's readers outrage it wouldn't sell.
As I said above my Mum is 74 and watches it almost every day but couldn’t be more diametrically opposed to its News narrative if she tried. She hates it’s coverage of asylum seekers, she’s quite liberal in immigration, and biggest of all is its coverage of Brexit, she was a staunch remainer. She also likes to watch Al Jazeera because in her view they cover a lot of world affairs that the BBC and Sky just don’t seem to touch these days. In reality GB News is aimed at the Gillian Duffy type red wall far right voter. It’s a loyal audience who lap up its clearly far right narrative but it’s not mass audience that the BBC, ITV and Sky can pull in.
Surely they can't reinstate this creep he's been at it for ages
What is interesting is that previously I might have respected Niel Oliver and Lawrence Fox but now that GB news has shown their true disposition, I am repulsed by their views.
GBH News
We need to shut down any opinion that isn't far left
It sounds like Fox is protesting a bit too much 😂😂
Yes, it’s training people to accept tabloid level as news
Imagine letting an tv channel having a different view from all the other channels. Imagine letting diversity of thought. Imagine being tolerant of views opposite to yours. Imagine having a proper debate.
Our society in nearing the real life 1984.
Fox blurted out the kind of blunt honesty that fourteen year old boys do. He's far beyond his teenage years so he has no excuse for such crass behaviour.
On the other hand, here we have a foul attempt to do away with a competitor. Doing themselves no favours here.
They aren’t really apples and apples.
Do you think that this is the only rule breaking that GB News has committed? Do some basic research.
You think this channel is a competitor to GBN????
'Do away with a competitor'?
Are you sure?
I think even 14 year old boys have greater respect for what they say publicly.
This comes about when bitter little men like Fox & Wootton come to the realisation that a particular women would not touch them with somebody else's.
GB news is not finding a 'niche' audience, when will you lot understand that your brand of wokery, is the niche and absolutely, in the minority.
GB news, proving what a nasty, petty country England has become.
Deep (sad) chuckle from here in France
You know journalism’s over when they’re all fighting amongst themselves
How's that then? Journalists aren't allowed to disagree?
I would say the exact opposite
I love GBN. Since I stumbled across it a year ago I rarely watch other news channels. Maybe the BBC should look seriously and honestly at itself.
GBN is different and that’s great not bad remember variety is the spice of life just don’t turn it on if you don’t like it and don’t be scared of it.
Well said! I love GBNews, they say what most of us think!
I don’t know anyone who watches MSM news !👍🏻🌹
Agreed. It is by far the most watched 24 hour news channel. Advertisers are barred by pressure groups.
Oh come on, even the knuckle draggers need a 'news' station.
Just give em a lager, pack of scratchings, a punt on the nags, and Benny Hill... its kept them busy enough for a generation, why upset the apple cart now?
I go watch now and then for the comedy value
Why do the desperate left wing always resort to name calling ,it's so predictable from the left, it's even worse because it's always the same words, if you're going to call names like little children, at least try to come up with something with a bit of variable
p==k@@RHLW
And you wonder why there is a space for GB news. I'm not going to lower myself to your insulting and patronising rhetoric, but you really might want to treat people with a little more respect.
Woottons face tho 😆
GB News is Tabloid TV - I married Big Foot types of nonsense.
The difference of a Brexit from the EU than Australia from the Commonwealth, is that the economic and legal impact is negligible.
The presenters have more freedom on GB News to speak their mind than being constrained by the BBC or Sky policy. In a democracy there is nothing wrong with this, but I believe there is a line that runs at personal insults to individuals and Laurence Fox crossed this line. If Fox had said I dont agree with her views that would have been enough. Reading about Fox, he'd probably had a few before being interviewed.
GB News isn't news, just right wing lies snd conspiracy theories
Fox notified GB News of his proposed input .
They knew
Ava is a smirk
Vile creepy men
Love the content but can someone have a word with Lewis as he seems to direct virtually all his comments to Jon. Emily must be getting use looking at the back of his head.! So Lewis, spend the same amount of time engaging with Emily as you do with Jon.
If you think the clip is offensive stop broadcasting the clip.
It’s only offensive to they narrative cause. lol 😂
@@sukiduke348narrative? Most decent people think his comments were deeply inappropriate.
@@mwd331 I could say the same thing as Ava what she did say as offensive, in other post in another vid.
I stand by free speech including the bit what she feels against males heath problems that she dissed them. so what I’m saying is I stand for Ava, fox and Dan. it should be a non issue. That what I’m saying.
GB News is Pub Talk
Dear News Agents, a critical correction to your report on Australia's Voice referendum: I doubt there are many people in Australia, even conservatives or those farther right, who still think Australia is still a British colony (see your words early in your Australian report). Australia has had its own (written) Constitution for more than 120 years. No longer a colony, thankfully. . Please update your reporting to be consistent with our constitution, democratic process and laws which in many ways are quite different to the UK.
No longer a colony, however still part of the Commonwealth.
@@sa9861Indeed. But so much more than a 'colony'!
@@sa9861 Hopefully not for much longer.
And are you proud of the result of the referendum?
I probably couldn't be further than Fox on most subjects and his rant was vile - though in some ways I understand his anger as the way the man talking about male suicides was treated by Ava was appalling. At least Fox stands on his views though and will speak his mind. Wootton on the other hand seems like a career serving two-faced toady - truly repulsive.
Whenever I saw Emily at parents day at Eton she always looked very sheepish.
Ofcom is toothless along with all the other regulators, its the reason we have shed loads of sewerage in the sea
I really enjoyed this video. I think you three did quite well to be impartial even though your personal biases did seep through (I'm not complaining - it's natural). I do watch and enjoy GB news as I feel it fills a void left from mainstream media. I wish the presenters here at N/Agents wouldn't label opposing views as 'conspiracy theories'. These 'theories' are often proved right and labels like this are often used to discredit or delegitimize people, so I think you can choose your words more wisely. I really welcome alternative news stations and I also think there should be more, both from the left and the right. More opinions and more views from everyone across the political spectrum. I think news and politics need a radical makeover and this is what makes GB News so desirable. Are they perfect? Is anyone perfect? It's not what's most important. People are so sick of waffling and this has led to such an uptake in independent journalists, like yourselves who I do applaud.
I would like to see much less opinion on news programmes, just facts.
@@SuperJal1979 a discussion of all forms is necessary. I wouldn't worry about distinguishing between facts and opinions, but I think the solution is to encourage more communication without barriers in a somewhat professional setting. Narratives can be cleverly created even with a collection of 'facts', but sometimes we need opinions.
I know what you're thinking but I think it's impossible to create a fully 'factual' setting.
@@mochimilan a perspective on the facts is fine. However, we live in a world where increasingly opinion is held as equally valid as fact.
@@Biggles2666fair point. So is there a realistic option from a journalism point of view? Can a station be set up and regulated to only reiterate facts? Doesn't this sound familiar to RUclips's controversial policy of health videos must align with the WHO's website? Where we are limited to that of one organisation (who are questionable). Another freedom of speech issue.
@@mochimilan yeah just one problem, it's misinformation because you don't have science or data to back up your nonsense
Instead you pretend you do then act like the victim when you're held to the same standard as everyone else, including media
LBC*
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT "THE NEWS AGENTS" PODCASTS
* LEADING BRITAIN'S CLAPTRAP
M.I.T.predicted social breakdown by 2040. ARE WE STILL ON COURSE?
Meanwhile the BBC hosted Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Russell Brand etc for years. And tolerated the appalling treatment of Leonard Sachs by Russell Brand on a radio show... yet no-one calls for the BBC to be closed down! Get some perspective. What Lawrence said was bad and wrong but compared with what the BBC and others have allowed from their presenters for years.....
"No-one calls for the BBC to be closed down......"
Atmosphere on your planet?
Andrew Sachs.
Congratulations! You win the 'Whataboutism Prize' of the week!
@@paulyeomans1065
So ignore the elephant in the room which is exactly what they want you to do.
cherry picking !! the BBC has 22,000 staff , you name 3 or 4 bad eggs. They make a ton of super programs , radio , websites ++++ I have sky tv with hundreds of channels and I watch BBC2 60% of the time , and BBC4. Nothing comes close except UKGOLD channels which show BBC repeats
20:20 They cut Starsky off and immediately assumed it’s about race! Asked if he was speaking “in terms of religion”, the 78-year-old agreed: “In terms of religion.”
Charles is the head of the Church of England, while Sunak is Hindu.
Are they competing against BBC and Sky now? I thought their viewing figures were really bad?
GBNEWS are actually beating BBC and SKY news..as is Talk tv I believe.
People are working out that they are the better off listening to them@@tyromenobber-fb2ls
@@tyromenobber-fb2ls No way! Last year's figures as I recall were abysmal. Like seriously bad, to the point where they barely qualified to register on the chart. I know shed loads of money was being pumped in, but to no avail. Christ what happened in a year?
@@MISSYGful take a look at the past couple of months.
@@MISSYGfulGBNews is doing extremely well… They’ve even won a couple of the prestigious TRIC awards… Farage won for Best News Présenter of the year and they won for the best Breakfast News show of the year.
People see them as being a conservative neee channel that is balanced in its broadcasting (unlike every other news channel in the U.K.).
22:30 For some reason the RUclips algorithm fills my feed with GB news videos. I am so outraged I almost never turn them on. I am not sure this is the outrage Emily and friends had in mind.
The TEETH of Ofcom???🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
It seems like ofcom just can’t keep up with it
What Megan do you think it’s okay to talk about her because she’s black
What we have are three people who are so far left they exist in their own backsides notice there is no diversity of opinion here is there?
At least they didn't follow Adam Boulton and say Ofcom should shut down GB News for disrupting Britain's 'broadcast ecology'
Apparently, according to the lady who was denigrated and eviscerated by that knuckle dragging misogynist, Wooten bombarded her mobile with calls and messages, trying to contact her. He’s obviously panicking.
Who's Agents are you?
Who is this creepy little guy in the grey suit? He clearly isn't a journalist.
i actually watch gb news but the only reason is its slightly more amusing than sky, bbc etc. if something big happens im watching the bbc. but if its some london bollocks like ulez i dont mind watching Kim Woodburn call Edwina Curry a trollop because she has an electric car. You all underestimate how many 30 year old blokes are watching just for the banter.
Pontificating dinosaurs.
what about her comments
What about them? If Fox hadn't been so vile we might examine them, now we're talking about this.
Whataboutery is not and argument.
So will this incident change GBN? Or will people watch it because they want to see what outrageous thing will happen next?
Both fox and wooton are vile
I like Dan don't like fox tho I guess we all have are favs
Not just GBnews it’s the entire far right wing press.
I noticed when talktv were discussing this the tagline across the screen was ;hate channel gb news; ,imagine the outrage if that was the bbc
Often 2-5 of them sit there and just pick someone to make fun of, just like a load of school bullies. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
It is true. They really promoted bullying. The was GB News treated Meghan Markle was shocking.
BBC was loving BLM. Tony hall introduced quotas.
thank god for these three x