It is hard to understand how anyone would vote Tory in U.K. but disheartening to hear that these seats will revert to Tory in the next GE - Brexit has destroyed British politics - and the voting system is so unjust
I don't get it either, sadly I think some people support political parties like they do football teams in that they will support them even when they are really bad.
When he talks about values he absolutely nails it full on. I've been saying this for a long while. The Conservatives have become ideologues who have completely ditched their values. Markets- they don't understand them anymore; Our Institutions- they attack them with culture wars; Law and Order - as before plus Boris' lying; Community - collaboration and compromise ditched etc etc. The quiet rural paternalistic Conservatism of honour, compromise, steady competence, fair play, community, institutions, of a sense of one nation, seems to be despised by them. No wonder what happened there happened!
Absolutely. My dad used to say "I hated Maggie Thatcher but you always knew what she stood for and what she believed in". This lot believe in nothing. They just say whatever they think people want to hear and tell whatever lies will keep them in power a day longer. Its painful.
When you have ministers doing speeches about how bad their own area is rather than actually trying to fix it then you know it's time your party moves out of office. They are totally out of realistic ideas about how to fix anything it seems. Hard to claim you are the leader of change when you have the same old people behind you.
Don't forget that nobody knows the true extent of social and economic damage 13 years of Tory government has left us. We only see the visible signs, crumbling schools and hospitals, courts, probation and policing in disarray, infrastructure projects cancelled, national debt higher than GDP, highest tax burden since WW2, high inflation, cost of living crisis, food banks (look at how many existed before the Tories came into power, and how many there are now), public services and social care almost nonexistent...
My in-laws are old style Tories, small business etc, they’ve quite elderly now and they have no intention of voting in the next election. I suspect that aren’t alone there. The Tories can talk all they like about a reset, the country is fed up of them, their lack of talent, the chaos that has surrounded the last five years, Labour can be boring, Starmer can be uncharismatic, people want competent government.
@@annishilcock4587they voted for the tories their whole lives. They have no right to complain and should accept responsibility for the state of the country.
'you think you've hit rock bottom, and then you find you can always go lower' . That, I feel, is the current Conservative Party's policy direction. Let alone Ken's quote from the 90s...
I just wish it was like the old times when Labour would win because they were dynamic and on point, not because of how worthless the Conservative Party has become
In the Next GE, Tamworth might hold as Labour, Mid-Beds, that will return to the Conservatives. BUT this is an indication that we the people want a change of government, NOT that it will make much difference to us poorer people, although my hope is Labour might get the NHS back to something useable.
I doubt Labour hold either and they don’t need either to have a massive majority. Holding Tamworth would probably give Labour a majority of 280 and Mid-Beds would be about 300.
Are they voting for Labour or not voting for the Tory’s. Whatever happens unless there is enough by-elections to overturn the Tory Parliamentary Majority they still have another 18mths to go.It’s about time that the Parliamentary Term was reduced to 4yrs from the present 5yrs which is way too long when a Government should go.
Robbin Walker, the Conservative MP for Worcester, neglected to mention that the Worcester seats he spoke about where Labour came 3rd & 4th, were previously held by the Conservatives for decades with a massive majority but they lost in a landslide victory by the Greens (40% swing in the case of the county seat & 32% in the Worcester city seat. Even when they imply they're doing well, they're lying by omission. It would also have been more honest of him to mention that he announced in February that he was not going to contest the next election in Worcester. Could it be that he's seen the writing on the wall and wants to avoid the embarrassment of the inevitable landslide in his own seat?
And we're about to have an even more dangerous "anyone but the Tories" result. What are Labour's policies? How will they actually fix anything at all? They're already going back on promises. Where will the money for housing come from? How will you fund the NHS better? How will you do ANYTHING? But nah, Labour will win because "we're sick of dem Tories innit fam" morons. Labour won't fix a GLOBAL energy issue and your bills. A GLOBAL housing shortage and high rents. A GLOBAL food price crisis. A GLOBAL inflation issue. The British public are idiots.
Lol Corbin minus 60 approval rating with public , highest ever of an opposition leader ….. labour suffered the worst election defeat in 90 years because of him ,
If the UK had Preference Voting like in Australia then you could have an Elected Upper House and other party’s could give their preferences to another party.
None of the usual platitudes from Peter Kyle. Sopel just had to sit back and listen to Kyle’s honest, in depth analysis of how Labour won. What a gift to a journalist.
In the past tory voters used the liberals as a protest vote but switch back at general election. In both byelections they voted labour which looks more like a change of allegience
No of course not. The Tories represent wealth and wealth is power and power is not voiceless. It's the poor and dispossessed who are voiceless. If wealth finds that it's no longer represented by the Tories in their current form, then it will find a different outlet. That will be the new Tories.
The truth about these by-elections is NOT that there was a huge swing to Labour (I wish that were true). What happened was that Labour got NO MORE VOTES than they did in the previous general elections (156 fewer in one of them and less than 1000 more in the other) but traditional Tory voters simply didnt bother to go and vote - hence a catastrophically low turnout. Labour Optimism is utterly unjustified.
Still have my doubts about a Labour win. Really hope Labour does win as the Tories have ruined this country. In 2010 Labour had the economy bottom out however public services were still strong. The Tories have destroyed public services and the economy is in tatters.
That Labour guy is so obnoxious. Typical used car salesman. Mate, you won because people want tories out. That's it, nothing more to it. Stop bigging yourself up.
The idea that the Tories could fight the election succcessfully on the economy is mind-boggling. The idea that they might get some success on immigration is even more upsetting - the Rwanda "solution" is nothing of the kind, it is red meat to the base, and if working with Europe to tackle human trafficking is a vote-loser then frankly there is something badly wrong with the voters.
When is labour changing its name to something more like his promises, to the new tories while tories change to National front.. in keeping with its policies.. New parties in england needed ASAP..there is a huge working class voters out there who have no voice in this so called labour party...
I just can't see what all the excitement is about . Tactical voting by the lib dems and greens . The reform party also took votes from the Tories which is why we ended up with a narrow labour majority . What would be seismic is if the Labour Party hang on to mid beds at the next GE .
Because if they held on there, it's highly likely they would win in a lot of other unlikely places and result in a Labour landslide that would make 1997 & 1945 look like a slim win. It would call into question the future of the Tory party for a generation.
Any chance such an extinction could be in the cards for the US answer to the Tories? If only we’d be so lucky over here… can my friends across the pond help me understand the point of the Lib Dems? Like what do they stand for?
The lib dems are suppose to hold the middle ground but as one of the major parties moves into the middle the the lib dems loose out. They constantly want promotional voting so they can have more power. In 2009 they joined with the Conservatives to form a government and immediately abandoned the policies they ran on and so angered their own voters. Sold out for power. Alot of Conservatives will vote for them as they will never vote Labour as they are completely maga maniacs
That's why they are showing you the comparisons between these by elections and the one at the start in 1994. That's the way it was going back then and then we got to 1997. The rest is history.
Think about that low turnout, and remember that the most discriminatory, vindictive and biased Voter suppression is in place ... put there by the party that lost both by-elections.
If more ppl had voted Lib Dem then Cons wld have won.. Nice slogan.. Vote Lib Dem get Cons. Make sure U check who is the best vote to get Cons out or U cld vote Lib Dem & get "Con"ned.
My guess would be Thursday the 6th of June for the general election, the Tories will hope they claim the scalp of London mayor in the May elections (ULEZ etc..) and then use this to build a general election campaign around. Plus most Tory MP's won't want to spend their summer holidays fighting an election campaign when they could be in their 2nd homes abroad..
You might be right on the date but I think they'll be deluding themselves if they think they can win London. Even though they've changed the voting system in London to make it less democratic and favour the Tories and Sadiq Khan is not popular. Never the less, ULEZ is not unpopular in London as the media would have ppl believe and it will become more popular as time goes on. It may result in the Tories losing some seats by a smaller margin in the outskirts of London but they've picked a complete headbanger of a candidate who can't speak without putting her foot in it. If the 2 votes are held on the same day, the national campaign will drown out any ULEZ focused campaign in London.
"Held onto Uxbridge" by 500 votes. Had ULEZ not been in play then they wld have lost Uxbridge as well. Uxbridge has had a Con council since 2006 & no otherall control between 1998-2006.
I’m no fan of the Tories, but can’t see Labour holding it at the General Election. I think the Tory vote will come out for a General Election, this was a warning from the electorate to the Tories, they’re are not happy.
Even the 97 Tories hadn't presided over such corruption, scandal and prolonged decline in the manner of this generation. They also had a leader who had a baseline of likeability, relatability and respect Sunak could only dream of. They could go sub 100 such is the popular mood and apathy of their base
@@maori185gc John Major was hugely unpopular as PM after his election victory but he won in 1992 because he was not Thatcher primarily. The impression of change and renewal played well for the Tories as well as the lies about Labour's tax proposals. I agree with the points you make. Compared to what followed, Major looks like Roosevelt. Not quite (!) but Britain as sunk so low with the calibre of its politicians. Dismal.
They're in a death spiral, throwing anything vaguely resembling a policy at the wall in the hope something sticks as a wedge issue. All their 5 pledges have turned to dust. Sunak has no political instincts. Likelihood Sunak gets defenestrated by his own backbenchers before an election and an even less appealing candidate becomes the sixth pm. Even the rightwing press is softening on anti-labour rhetoric. The windows for calling an election and economic headwinds look very unfavourable for a revival in the polls. Tories being chomped away on their moderate flank in the shires and on their right by reform. I said could go below 100, and i agree it's unlikely, but the ingredients are there for a wipeout.
Sigh. Firstly, they're setting their sights on 2028 and beyond. Secondly, Labour are moving into the ground previously occupied by the Tories. Those expecting some miraculous change once Labour get in will be disappointed. All the material conditions are not set to change, because of the conflation of "AdULt PoLiTiCs" and "ELeCtiBiliTy" with cowtowing to private donors polluting politics and ensuring national investment never happens.
Sigh...another armchair pundit predicting the future based on nothing other than his inflated opinion of the merits of his own his personal hypothisis.
@@annishilcock4587 It's called direction of travel matey. Trajectory. Reading the room. But, nevermind. Keep on dreaming "things can only get better" (the bad cover version).........
He clearly is not strategically savy though going off about the lib dems when they have likely taken tory voters off them especially with his later points. It's clear he has taken it personally whatever has gone on in the campaign, whether he thinks the same long term is a different matter.
He is more charismatic than Starmer and a better media performer but he comes across as disingenuous and arrogant. He reminds me slightly of Peter Mandelson.
The Tories are heading for full accountability regarding the current state of the United Kingdom! The general public have had enough of the reckless lies and gross incompetence in terms of governing!
One of the things you need to know is that most of this talk seems to be coming from Farage - and in the most recent interview where he said that he appears to have been joking. The other point I'd make is that the only possibility of Farage of Tory leader would be if the Tories were no longer one of the two main parties. If they get battered so badly that they are effectively the third party, anything can happen, but no, I don't see Farage as a potential Leader of the Oppposition. He doesn't want to be leader of the Tory party, he wants them to come crawling to him on their knees so that he can reject them as they once rejected him.
I consider myself a Poll Tax refugee, sick of Thatcher I left. At around that time the Canadian ruling Tories went to the polls hoping for reelection, what they got was just two (2) seats post election, this from a country of 40m who are happier & wealthier then their UK equivalent voter. The the UK Tories are assuming opposition status post election, I not sure, I've not seen such anger for Tories ever before, even in Thater times.
My long-deceased parents were tory voters, but when Thatcher came to power, my Father was less than pleased. He continued voting tory, just, but "holding his nose" as he described it! I wonder what he would have made of the present shower of self-serving crooks and incompetents.
The danger is complacency. We believe they are heading for a wipout, but if the wrong people stay at home, they might scrap through with a couple of seats to spare...
@@privatechannel8462 Opinion polls showed only a narrow lead for Kinnock, the circumstances were very different. But you would be right not to take anything for granted, and Starmer won't.
The UK will have a very hard time convincing the world they are to be taken seriously while the Tory party is a factor in UK politics.
Let's get a goverment who actually want to govern rather than this lot who just want the power and then use it for their own ends
Keep dreaming. Labour want power just for their own ends.
And who might they be? Certainly not Labour with Kid Starver at the helm
@@tybulustyburn5580they will still be a huge improvement over tories, anyone would be
@@kanedNunable would reform?
@tybulustyburn5580 well who exactly do you suggest? Got any bright ideas or are you just going to post glib comments like that?
It is hard to understand how anyone would vote Tory in U.K. but disheartening to hear that these seats will revert to Tory in the next GE - Brexit has destroyed British politics - and the voting system is so unjust
I hope not. These were Brexit strongholds.
I don't get it either, sadly I think some people support political parties like they do football teams in that they will support them even when they are really bad.
We don’t know how badly the Tories will do.
The deliberate cruelty of braverman is a copy of John Howard's stop the boats campaign here in Australia. Both are disgusting individuals.
When he talks about values he absolutely nails it full on. I've been saying this for a long while. The Conservatives have become ideologues who have completely ditched their values. Markets- they don't understand them anymore; Our Institutions- they attack them with culture wars; Law and Order - as before plus Boris' lying; Community - collaboration and compromise ditched etc etc. The quiet rural paternalistic Conservatism of honour, compromise, steady competence, fair play, community, institutions, of a sense of one nation, seems to be despised by them. No wonder what happened there happened!
Absolutely. My dad used to say "I hated Maggie Thatcher but you always knew what she stood for and what she believed in". This lot believe in nothing. They just say whatever they think people want to hear and tell whatever lies will keep them in power a day longer. Its painful.
Rowanda= £140.000 thousand per Person.... all for news paper headlines... Madness !
Only the thickest of the thick believe in the Tories after the last few years. Stamer's Labour is electable and the win will be big.
Hopefully! Or prison for wasting money from the public purse!
When you have ministers doing speeches about how bad their own area is rather than actually trying to fix it then you know it's time your party moves out of office. They are totally out of realistic ideas about how to fix anything it seems. Hard to claim you are the leader of change when you have the same old people behind you.
Oh, let's hope so 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 #makethetorieshistory
The most insightful comments on the current political scene are by far and away those of Phil Moorhouse in the Different Bias vids. Never wrong
Claiming someone is never wrong is c**tish.
He has a compelling point of view but he has, by admission, a different bias. Bias being the operative. I do love his channel though.
He often admits he's wrong, especially when it comes to predictions, although he wasn't wrong last week.
@@biggmick1 And is not often wrong.
So true, he's inciteful, knows how politics work, he's the guy I go to.
A lot of people have come to believe that they were conned over Brexit. No one likes to be made to look like a fool.
Don't forget that nobody knows the true extent of social and economic damage 13 years of Tory government has left us.
We only see the visible signs, crumbling schools and hospitals, courts, probation and policing in disarray, infrastructure projects cancelled, national debt higher than GDP, highest tax burden since WW2, high inflation, cost of living crisis, food banks (look at how many existed before the Tories came into power, and how many there are now), public services and social care almost nonexistent...
My in-laws are old style Tories, small business etc, they’ve quite elderly now and they have no intention of voting in the next election. I suspect that aren’t alone there.
The Tories can talk all they like about a reset, the country is fed up of them, their lack of talent, the chaos that has surrounded the last five years, Labour can be boring, Starmer can be uncharismatic, people want competent government.
If your parents have no intention of voting then I'm afraid they have no right to bemoan the state of the country.
£3 trillion of debt and nine million new foreigners to assimilate.
@@annishilcock4587they voted for the tories their whole lives. They have no right to complain and should accept responsibility for the state of the country.
I'll be staying home come the election too.
@@jeffsmith3392 Then you'll just have to put up with the consequences of your apathy, which isn't anything to be proud of.
VOTE REFORM, REFORM, REFORM. 100%.
HahaHaaaHaaaaaaa
@@jonathanfell688 IS YOUR RECORD STUCK. HAHAHA.!!!!!!!
The Ponzi Scheme Party 😂
No thanks
I can feel it in my water 😊
No that's the Tory sewage.
Go to the doctor .
'you think you've hit rock bottom, and then you find you can always go lower' . That, I feel, is the current Conservative Party's policy direction. Let alone Ken's quote from the 90s...
I'd say it's more a description of tory moral code. Conduct and ethics... No matter how low they go they always find a way to go lower.
Let’s hope so
Thanks for posting
I just wish it was like the old times when Labour would win because they were dynamic and on point, not because of how worthless the Conservative Party has become
When were these great old times then ?? Government s lose elections not opposition wins it ,
Different times, and Starmer knows how to play it. He is effective just as Corbyn was ineffective.
The Red Tories.
I come from a Conservative background but will not vote for them at next election.
In 64, the actual quote was "13 years of Tory misrule" !
And how quaint and minor the complaints about the Tories of 1964 seem in comparison to the crimes and misdemeanours of the Tories of 2023...
Yes and it’s a sweet, sweet sound
In the Next GE, Tamworth might hold as Labour, Mid-Beds, that will return to the Conservatives. BUT this is an indication that we the people want a change of government, NOT that it will make much difference to us poorer people, although my hope is Labour might get the NHS back to something useable.
I doubt Labour hold either and they don’t need either to have a massive majority. Holding Tamworth would probably give Labour a majority of 280 and Mid-Beds would be about 300.
Wes streeting office is funded by private medical companies. Labour will not get the nhs back to what it was.
The best honeymoon start ever
Are they voting for Labour or not voting for the Tory’s.
Whatever happens unless there is enough by-elections to overturn the Tory Parliamentary Majority they still have another 18mths to go.It’s about time that the Parliamentary Term was reduced to 4yrs from the present 5yrs which is way too long when a Government should go.
15 months
Robbin Walker, the Conservative MP for Worcester, neglected to mention that the Worcester seats he spoke about where Labour came 3rd & 4th, were previously held by the Conservatives for decades with a massive majority but they lost in a landslide victory by the Greens (40% swing in the case of the county seat & 32% in the Worcester city seat.
Even when they imply they're doing well, they're lying by omission.
It would also have been more honest of him to mention that he announced in February that he was not going to contest the next election in Worcester. Could it be that he's seen the writing on the wall and wants to avoid the embarrassment of the inevitable landslide in his own seat?
I do hope so
Extinction is there best destiny...who on earth neefs the Tories AGAIN !! Give everyone a ery long break like 20 years 😡😡🇬🇧
Gave him a pretty free hand to campaign in that interview
So glad the Labour Party have their own "I, I, I" spokesperson. Not sure I would have voted Labour if this person had been their rallying cry.
Jon Sopel - an excellent analysis - probably the best that I have seen. Who needs Emily Maitlis?
In my opinion the tories take the country for granted
I wonder how many voted Conservatives in 2019 following the °Anybody but Jeremy Corbyn° logic
And we're about to have an even more dangerous "anyone but the Tories" result. What are Labour's policies? How will they actually fix anything at all? They're already going back on promises. Where will the money for housing come from? How will you fund the NHS better? How will you do ANYTHING? But nah, Labour will win because "we're sick of dem Tories innit fam" morons. Labour won't fix a GLOBAL energy issue and your bills. A GLOBAL housing shortage and high rents. A GLOBAL food price crisis. A GLOBAL inflation issue.
The British public are idiots.
Funny thing was, Jeremy corbyn got more votes than they did under Starmer.
@@bryansmith1404how do you draw a comparison if Starmer has never led at a GE?
@@bryansmith1404didn’t win it though did he
Lol Corbin minus 60 approval rating with public , highest ever of an opposition leader ….. labour suffered the worst election defeat in 90 years because of him ,
Tory voters didnt stay at home. Voters stayed at home rather than vote Tory. Not quite the same thing now, is it?
One can but hope.
If the UK had Preference Voting like in Australia then you could have an Elected Upper House and other party’s could give their preferences to another party.
Thankfully, this is not so.
As it stands right now, yes.
Every time Labour open their mouth they add to the reasons not to vote for them. It'd be madness to have them in charge.
I'm in love.
YES.!!!!!
None of the usual platitudes from Peter Kyle. Sopel just had to sit back and listen to Kyle’s honest, in depth analysis of how Labour won. What a gift to a journalist.
One can only hope
They are toast
hope so
In the past tory voters used the liberals as a protest vote but switch back at general election. In both byelections they voted labour which looks more like a change of allegience
The Tories are awful, low turnout or not, they're finished
One can hope
Yes
They can take Starmer with them
Only if there is any justice in this world.
It would be nice if the Labour and Lib-Dems can offer up tactical voting options.
They did!
They did and they will again
@@ogribiker8535 They didn't in mid Beds as the clip demonstrated.
@@darren_anscombe They didn't in mid Beds as the clip demonstrated.
@@biggmick1 No so. The Libs targeted the disillusioned Tories that would never vote Labour. Lots of things going on below the water line.
I'm reading Tory voters stayed home, therefore if they turn out for the GE, it's a different story😮
Still don't understand how people vote tory... where's the pull?
Is nobody going to mention the freedom for Smokers party
No of course not. The Tories represent wealth and wealth is power and power is not voiceless. It's the poor and dispossessed who are voiceless. If wealth finds that it's no longer represented by the Tories in their current form, then it will find a different outlet. That will be the new Tories.
acoording to the opnion polls and bye elections ....YES.....A.S.A.P
The truth about these by-elections is NOT that there was a huge swing to Labour (I wish that were true). What happened was that Labour got NO MORE VOTES than they did in the previous general elections (156 fewer in one of them and less than 1000 more in the other) but traditional Tory voters simply didnt bother to go and vote - hence a catastrophically low turnout. Labour Optimism is utterly unjustified.
Awww I can't wait for change. Gosh this is so exciting, change from the Conservatives is 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁Labour! Get stuffed.
Like it or not, that’s the change that’s available and will almost certainly be delivered.
@@Steven-vo4ee there's no change between Sunak to Starmer. For the first time ever I'll be staying home. Have fun!
@@jeffsmith3392Risible guff, enjoy your day at home…
@@Steven-vo4ee at home! In the local at the mo.
Still have my doubts about a Labour win. Really hope Labour does win as the Tories have ruined this country. In 2010 Labour had the economy bottom out however public services were still strong. The Tories have destroyed public services and the economy is in tatters.
With a bit of luck
That Labour guy is so obnoxious. Typical used car salesman. Mate, you won because people want tories out. That's it, nothing more to it. Stop bigging yourself up.
I suppose the answer to the question at the top of the page is: Hope so 🤞
And all Labour had to do to gain victory was give up on everything they believe in.
"A seven in terms of earthquakes" 😂
No, just a reincarnation as Labour under Starmer.
The Red Tories.
The idea that the Tories could fight the election succcessfully on the economy is mind-boggling. The idea that they might get some success on immigration is even more upsetting - the Rwanda "solution" is nothing of the kind, it is red meat to the base, and if working with Europe to tackle human trafficking is a vote-loser then frankly there is something badly wrong with the voters.
No, the Red or blue Tories will win the next Westminster general election.
When is labour changing its name to something more like his promises, to the new tories while tories change to National front.. in keeping with its policies..
New parties in england needed ASAP..there is a huge working class voters out there who have no voice in this so called labour party...
I would guess Sunak is waiting for the autumn. Cyber security issues could play in his cards also a US republican government
I just can't see what all the excitement is about .
Tactical voting by the lib dems and greens .
The reform party also took votes from the Tories which is why we ended up with a narrow labour majority .
What would be seismic is if the Labour Party hang on to mid beds at the next GE .
Because if they held on there, it's highly likely they would win in a lot of other unlikely places and result in a Labour landslide that would make 1997 & 1945 look like a slim win. It would call into question the future of the Tory party for a generation.
Any chance such an extinction could be in the cards for the US answer to the Tories? If only we’d be so lucky over here… can my friends across the pond help me understand the point of the Lib Dems? Like what do they stand for?
The lib dems are suppose to hold the middle ground but as one of the major parties moves into the middle the the lib dems loose out. They constantly want promotional voting so they can have more power. In 2009 they joined with the Conservatives to form a government and immediately abandoned the policies they ran on and so angered their own voters. Sold out for power. Alot of Conservatives will vote for them as they will never vote Labour as they are completely maga maniacs
But with a low turnout, I am not sure yet that it will be the same at a General Election.
That's why they are showing you the comparisons between these by elections and the one at the start in 1994. That's the way it was going back then and then we got to 1997. The rest is history.
Think about that low turnout, and remember that the most discriminatory, vindictive and biased Voter suppression is in place ... put there by the party that lost both by-elections.
If more ppl had voted Lib Dem then Cons wld have won..
Nice slogan.. Vote Lib Dem get Cons.
Make sure U check who is the best vote to get Cons out or U cld vote Lib Dem & get "Con"ned.
🤞
My guess would be Thursday the 6th of June for the general election, the Tories will hope they claim the scalp of London mayor in the May elections (ULEZ etc..) and then use this to build a general election campaign around. Plus most Tory MP's won't want to spend their summer holidays fighting an election campaign when they could be in their 2nd homes abroad..
You might be right on the date but I think they'll be deluding themselves if they think they can win London. Even though they've changed the voting system in London to make it less democratic and favour the Tories and Sadiq Khan is not popular. Never the less, ULEZ is not unpopular in London as the media would have ppl believe and it will become more popular as time goes on. It may result in the Tories losing some seats by a smaller margin in the outskirts of London but they've picked a complete headbanger of a candidate who can't speak without putting her foot in it. If the 2 votes are held on the same day, the national campaign will drown out any ULEZ focused campaign in London.
The Tories don’t stand a chance in the London mayoral election.
They are all rotten to the core. Not just tories , all of them in all parties. None of them give a toss about the working class
I ike the lady's jumper.
Bit partridge in the intro there
For God's sake let's get Brexit done and get back to being exceptionally world leading 😂😂😂
UK was world leading in many areas... till the billionnaires conned enough people to vote for Brexit
Spin doctor how he talks, new labcons
"Held onto Uxbridge" by 500 votes. Had ULEZ not been in play then they wld have lost Uxbridge as well. Uxbridge has had a Con council since 2006 & no otherall control between 1998-2006.
Boundary changes mean that some wards in more Labour supporting Northolt will become part of the seat at the next election.
Never underestimate Labour's ability to fail.
I’m no fan of the Tories, but can’t see Labour holding it at the General Election. I think the Tory vote will come out for a General Election, this was a warning from the electorate to the Tories, they’re are not happy.
"I’m no fan of the Tories" I doubt that very much.
Best guess at the moment is Tories retain just 180 seats.
Even the 97 Tories hadn't presided over such corruption, scandal and prolonged decline in the manner of this generation. They also had a leader who had a baseline of likeability, relatability and respect Sunak could only dream of. They could go sub 100 such is the popular mood and apathy of their base
I think that is extremely optimistic
@@maori185gc John Major was hugely unpopular as PM after his election victory but he won in 1992 because he was not Thatcher primarily. The impression of change and renewal played well for the Tories as well as the lies about Labour's tax proposals. I agree with the points you make. Compared to what followed, Major looks like Roosevelt. Not quite (!) but Britain as sunk so low with the calibre of its politicians. Dismal.
They're in a death spiral, throwing anything vaguely resembling a policy at the wall in the hope something sticks as a wedge issue. All their 5 pledges have turned to dust. Sunak has no political instincts. Likelihood Sunak gets defenestrated by his own backbenchers before an election and an even less appealing candidate becomes the sixth pm. Even the rightwing press is softening on anti-labour rhetoric. The windows for calling an election and economic headwinds look very unfavourable for a revival in the polls. Tories being chomped away on their moderate flank in the shires and on their right by reform. I said could go below 100, and i agree it's unlikely, but the ingredients are there for a wipeout.
@@darren_anscombe Labour 41%. Tory 26%. LibDems 18%. Tories are done, hopefully for a very long time
Sigh. Firstly, they're setting their sights on 2028 and beyond. Secondly, Labour are moving into the ground previously occupied by the Tories. Those expecting some miraculous change once Labour get in will be disappointed. All the material conditions are not set to change, because of the conflation of "AdULt PoLiTiCs" and "ELeCtiBiliTy" with cowtowing to private donors polluting politics and ensuring national investment never happens.
That's why the much heralded Labour revival in Scotland should not be taken too seriously.
Labour is the same as the Tories. Failing to govern from the left will pave the way for a Tory return within ten years.
Sigh...another armchair pundit predicting the future based on nothing other than his inflated opinion of the merits of his own his personal hypothisis.
@@annishilcock4587 It's called direction of travel matey. Trajectory. Reading the room. But, nevermind. Keep on dreaming "things can only get better" (the bad cover version).........
Kyle should run as Labour leader. He's way more likeable than Starmer and yes, I'm biased as he's my MP
He clearly is not strategically savy though going off about the lib dems when they have likely taken tory voters off them especially with his later points. It's clear he has taken it personally whatever has gone on in the campaign, whether he thinks the same long term is a different matter.
He is more charismatic than Starmer and a better media performer but he comes across as disingenuous and arrogant. He reminds me slightly of Peter Mandelson.
'Likeable' does not make a leader.
@@chriselliott726 True but unfortunately it's can get you elected.
The Tories are heading for full accountability regarding the current state of the United Kingdom! The general public have had enough of the reckless lies and gross incompetence in terms of governing!
Some may be heading for criminal accountability subject to the outcome of the enquiries into the management of covid and corruption.
Hope so!
No, they aren't. Accountability from whom? We know this talk of "justice" never leads anywhere.
Accountability from the electorate
Criminal investigations are needed when they are thrown out
There's talk of Farage becoming the Tory party leader. What else do you need to know?
One of the things you need to know is that most of this talk seems to be coming from Farage - and in the most recent interview where he said that he appears to have been joking. The other point I'd make is that the only possibility of Farage of Tory leader would be if the Tories were no longer one of the two main parties. If they get battered so badly that they are effectively the third party, anything can happen, but no, I don't see Farage as a potential Leader of the Oppposition. He doesn't want to be leader of the Tory party, he wants them to come crawling to him on their knees so that he can reject them as they once rejected him.
I consider myself a Poll Tax refugee, sick of Thatcher I left. At around that time the Canadian ruling Tories went to the polls hoping for reelection, what they got was just two (2) seats post election, this from a country of 40m who are happier & wealthier then their UK equivalent voter. The the UK Tories are assuming opposition status post election, I not sure, I've not seen such anger for Tories ever before, even in Thater times.
Yes please! they really are so horrible.
We can only hope so
Why am I seeing the Monty Python sketch at the beginning?
Richi Sunak is a “very clever man” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh dear! oh dear! Where did they find her!😂😂😂😂
She was paraphrasing the conservative party strategy and discussing the political landscape. That's her job.
Looks like you definitely aren't.
My long-deceased parents were tory voters, but when Thatcher came to power, my Father was less than pleased. He continued voting tory, just, but "holding his nose" as he described it! I wonder what he would have made of the present shower of self-serving crooks and incompetents.
The danger is complacency. We believe they are heading for a wipout, but if the wrong people stay at home, they might scrap through with a couple of seats to spare...
Not this time, the Tories are done for and they are beginning to work it out.
@@chriselliott726 we thought that in 92
@@privatechannel8462 Opinion polls showed only a narrow lead for Kinnock, the circumstances were very different. But you would be right not to take anything for granted, and Starmer won't.
@@privatechannel8462 Pre 92 Labour’s lead never exceeded 7 points, this is much more like pre 97.
@@grahambuckerfield4640 hopefully yes, but. Don't get complacent...
It is really encouraging to hear Peter Kyle talking about the Labour Party Data being the best of all parties. Nowadays it is all data driven.
If there's any justice in this world.......
i would be your man you would be my girl 🎶
Nah just a rebrand. Tory politics persists in Petey Mandelson's , sorry Kier Starmer's Labour party
The News Agents is beginning to stagnate. The content is too repetitive and not adding much more than you'd hear at the bus stop or the pub.
Have you considered ever getting some working class people on the show?
Yes they are and with luck they can take Starmer with them.