The Packers are the only team using this strategy. Well actually the Lions are doing it with H.Hooker but you'd figure there would be more teams trying it. Hell if I'm the Bears why not start Fields this final year of his contract and let Caleb watch and slowly learn and start the following year. Fields is still cheap.
Nah, his reaction was fair. Love is great, but we had so many needs and guttie didn't draft those needs. If you recall we had an MVP QB the but still couldn't get a Super Bowl.
@@DyslexicLemonz correct, so many that the draft couldn’t patch them all. The pick of Love has now set us up to be in contention for the next 10 years. Rodgers just couldn’t get it done. I would argue it was more so due to TT having dementia while he was the guy deciding the roster. His drafts from 2012-2017 were atrocious and was a big reason why we could never make a run. That and thinking it was a good idea to fill defensive starters with undrafted rookies (M.D. Jennings) So a first rounder wasn’t going to be the difference. Tom was just being a fan who thought GB was a player away, and they weren’t.
@@theamazingoppo4918 he can praise him all he wants. He thought BG was an idiot for making the selection. My point is he’s smarter than a fan (which is Tom) and understands the complexities of roster building in the NFL. What are you not getting here bud.
I think Green Bay made a great decision, I was honestly questioning it but now I’m happy we did, we made a solid pick with Love and we will see some great improvements in his play. Last year was the first year starting and he did better than most of us expected.
any true packer fan understood the jordan love pick. We all had the "wait and you'll see" mentality. He had all the upside, and given time to mature behind one of the best ever, we knew he could be just as good (without the lunacy)
And yet they have the same amount of Super Bowls as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers since 1970. 6 Years before the Bucs even existed. Brad Johnson and Tom Brady combined to start 99 games for the Bucs and won 2 Super Bowls. Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre combined to start 476 games for the Packers and won 2 Super Bowls.
Honestly i think even if we (Packers) would have traded up and drafted Justin Jefferson instead of Jordan Love, it wouldn´t have been enough against that Tampa defense in 2020 and in 2021 our defense and special teams would have hurt us too much anyway to win.
Respect your opinion but Jefferson was OROY and absolutely 100% chance he makes GB on Offense better. Add him and DB69 and I’m about 60% sure the Packers make the SB. Not sure about beating KC because all teams match up different. 40% chance GB wins both games
Could you have imagined Jefferson and Adams on the same team? That would have changed the landscape of the offense, the Bucs would have had no chance. 49ers wouldn't have been able to double cover Adams. We should all agree that the Packers neglected WR for way too long because they didn't take a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round since Adams in 2014 at the time of the Jordan Love pick.
I was one of those Packers fan who was loudly unhappy with the Love pick. He sure silenced me last season. I don't know if we have enough to say he'll be on par with Rodgers and Favre, but man, he sure has talent, and looks incredibly promising. It's hard to believe the Pack made it to the playoffs, and won a game, and almost beat the 49ers in the playoffs, in his first starting season. I think Rodgers does deserve credit too, for helping Love grow as a QB. Unlike Favre, he helped Love, taught him what he knew, and that definitely rubbed off on Love. I see a lot of Rodgers in Love.
Tom Clements doesn't get his due. The only QB coach to work with all three of them and has a TON to do with Rodgers and Love's development. He came out of retirement because he loves working with JLove and will be back next year at a young 73 years old
I lived through the Favre-Rodgers transition. Really didn't like Rodgers, really didn't like the team not focusing on getting Favre a second ring. Then Favre shit the bed in Dallas, got benched, and Rodgers played great the remainder of the game. Got over the post-HOF QB fits back then, so I was neutral to Love when he was drafted. Granted, Rodgers made it easy to transition to Love in those last two years.
Love was considered a top ten pick the year before. His coaching all left along with all his top players. His stats suffered so he dropped. Todd Mcshay said he was the qb with the most upside
QB's who are given time to sit and learn behind a vet tend to have better success. Just like Rodgers, Love has been given a few years to acclimate and--while he still has a lot more room to grow--it's definitely paid off. Even Mahomes got to sit for a year and he looked SO bad in the preseason of his rookie season that I wasn't sure about him. 😂
I feel like players picked from 15-30 tend to be better pros. If Packers ever draft a QB in rd1 I'm just gonna trust it lo! Even if Love still has 4 years left
It was leaked about a week before the draft that GB had significant interest in him and the vast majority of fans were against it at the time. The popular thinking was that we should be pushing to compete as hard as we could the last couple years that we had Rodgers. A lot of the mocks were this is what I think will happen more than this is what I would do. I think up until like week 8 last year a lot of us were still fairly nervous about how it would turn out.
It doesn’t matter what I think. Imo after what we know now (still limited). Jordan was in correct order for QB however he’d be a Top 10-12 selection imo. Maybe maybe top 8
Jordan Love wasn't ready to play until the middle of his 3rd season. He was Drafted in the back end of the 1st round. Right where a Developmental QB with a High Ceilling should be taken. He had a Very Low Floor. He needed the right place and time to develop. That is NOT a guy you take at the Top of the Draft.
Don't pretend Love would have been good in 2021.... What happened to Love used to be how all rookie QBs (even those taken in 1st round) would be treated. It was previously unheard of to start a rookie QB if you weren't trying to run them off. This is what can happen if you draft a QB to a situation they can sit and learn. He's a bust if he goes to most other teams
GB is known for drafting a QB before they need one, and letting him learn on the bench. I will not be surprised if Love hoists the Lombardi Trophy and has a bust in Canton.
It's not that the players are a bust. The teams drafting them. Don't develop. Coaches are on such a short leash. They don't have time to develop players anymore. They're throwing kids into a man's game and wonder why
I’ve heard it worse but it was definitely off. Do you think this is a computer voice or a human reading the narration? Not sure if it’s acceptable & considered Westernized to pronounce the “Tung” syllable as “Tag” within linguistics. Some names are seen as proper to pronounce more along the spelling but thought that disappeared from the NFL with Brett Favre whose name was even made fun of in the movie “Something About Mary.”
This fan said at the time you MUST draft QBs before you need them. Also all the Round 1 WRs were gone, so people saying they should have gone WR are just wrong. Thank God fans don't make the picks.
As a packer fan I can honestly say I was happy with Majkowski at center when he got hurt. I wasn't excited about drafting Rodgers and was pissed when Favre got traded. I didn't get excited when Love was drafted but I saw the writing on the wall and took it in stride. Sometimes I think it would be easier to be a Bears fan just to get excited about a linebacker or kick returner.
Now that Justin Herbert has Jim Harbaugh, look out. Remember what Harbaugh did with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick? Imagine now. Give that man two drafts to load the roster.
I'll admit I was baffled that we simply didn't take a receiver, but as a Packers fan I had absolutely nothing against Love. All I could think was "Dude is going to sit for a while" didn't understand just how good that would be for him
Die hard Packer fan since the early’60’s . Let’s not ordain Love as a HOFer just yet . Showed promise the back end of ‘23 , so there is reason for optimism , but until he does it again … and again … and again …
Love probably should've been drafted in the 2nd round... the only reason he is where he is today is that he was able to develop behind a veteran QB, and the Packers development program is probably the best in the NFL. The Packets front office had a cheat code formula for QB development akin to the Pythagorean theorem in geometry. If I'm ever a QB in college and the Packers are 2-3 years out at changing QBs, I'm crossing my fingers they take me.
With the Eagles pic at the time we all were mad but now we really don’t care about as much because we got the Deonte Smith and AJ Brown. We were able to pay both of them plus our quarterback the Vikings have a wide receiver who wanted to break the bank And he did I’m happy where the Eagles end up
I wasn't mad about Love because I wanted instant gratification, I was mad about it because 2 picks later was Patrick Queen. MLB run stopper. Oh, and the Packers still can't stop the run... Queen is who I was rooting for
@@kurtwicklund8901LB has a much safer floor though. Queen was guaranteed to come in and play all 5 years of his rookie deal while there was no guarantee that Love would play a single year of his. Obviously it worked out but there are also teams that have shot themselves in the foot by wasting 1st rounders on QBs they get no return from.
absolutely right that Gruden and Mayock should never be in charge of another draft, anywhere. those guys didn’t do their homework. Ruggs couldn't catch a cold and OSU DBs have a history of being low character.
All of the 1st rounders drafted after Love were busts except Queen, who was on his way to become a bust until Roquan came in to save his career. Only Burrow, Thomas, Tua(questionable), Herbert, Brown(questionable), Wirfs, Terrell, Lamb, JJ, and Aiyuk are better or about the same tier of player as Love is. Yeah Packers front knows what they're doing
Personally, I believe the QBs drafted in 2020 went in order of talent and the teams that didn't take a QB in the first 25 picks didn't have an immediate need at QB. It was the perfect first round with the exception of Jetta. That isn't a hindsight comment because of his dominance in the NFL, he was a Top 3 WR in college that year.
I think the packers missed put on a superbowl appearance by picking him. I also thing the absolute best thing for him was sitting behind Rodgers for 3 seasons. He looks great and was very raw entering camp.
There were plenty of good picks ahead of Love, and some who could of been if not for injuries. Would love to see what happened to the rest of the first round selections to see just how good this first round was.
If youve seen Tom grossi’s video on project QB he talked about how in the draft, he said there was something called “Project QB”. And for those who don’t watch Tom grossi lemme explain: Tom explains that Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre and Rodgers became the best player we know of today. Then he says that Jordan love is a guy that needed to sit behind Rodgers for some time until we knew he was ready. And Tom says although we may have hated the packers and Brian for drafting a QB when at the time we didn’t need one, Tom says we may be thanking Brian later. And look at how well Jordon love has played. Us packers have a system unique to other franchises when it comes to quarterbacks.
WOW, just wow, better than Herbert and Burrows? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and I thought Lion fans were getting ridiculous, you Packer fans are on par with Buckeye fans. The most hated fan base in sports because of your obnoxiousnes.
"Love should have never fallen to the 26th pick" Love wasn't good when he was drafted. He had potential. Few times were willing or able to put in the time to develop that potential. Packers get good deals on QBs they draft because they can develop them, not because other teams just constantly miss these diamonds in the rough. You send Jordan Love to nearly any other team in 2020 and he's probably not putting up the numbers he did in 2023.
Yep. Everyone just thinks GB always gets a great QB. Laughable how this guy has a decent season and, now that every team has seen him, they'll put him right back into oblivion. Seriously, this is beyond ridiculous.
@@jeromeariganello9874 we shall see. His play and numbers were better than both Favre and Rodgers their starting year. He appears to be able to read defenses, he's learning when to tuck and run, when to throw it away, and he sure limited his turnovers down the stretch. Watch the playoff game against the Cowboys again and you'll see why Packers fans think they've found their franchise QB. I mean he sucked early in the year and still ended up throwing more TD passes in the regular season than anyone but Dak. I doubt oblivion will be his future, though he might not fly as high as some would like.
Someone that sits that long comes out starting after a few years sitting behind a first round hofer and every game comes out with the same poise as his first game action should be respected especially after his second half surge. Who knows what happens next year but damn if he isn’t locked in for now and definitely worth a late 1sr rd pick
Herbert hasn't won anything.... Because Brandon Staley was his head coach who cost the team a playoff spot by taking a meaningless timeout against Vegas, blew a 27 point lead to the Jags and had several other instances of losing games that had nothing to do with Herbert.
Still think there is a good chance Love will be a bust. One quarter of a season against mid opposition with your RB playing at a god tier level doesn't really constitute a pattern.
Love sucked until the second half of this year. Had he been drafted earlier he would have been a bust and I’m extremely confident of that statement. He will always be a reach that ended up doing well cause he learned from Rodgers. Before anyone talks about Favre to Rodgers, they’re polar opposites
@@mrip31 It’s not significant at all actually. Is this your first season watching the NFL? Cam Newton had a better rookie year than Jordan Love and look what happened to him. Peyton Manning had one of the worst rookie seasons of all time and look how he turned out. It honestly means nothing. But go ahead and crown him the GOAT if you want to 😂😂😂
pure speculation... it is not that Love was not a good prospect at QB, it's more that thought that Love would still be there in the 3rd or 4th round. And that maybe have been true as Love was not good for the first 3 years of his career (as seen in practice and preseason - he was not ready). But the give the Packers credit, they saw and develop the potential and that is why they are in the business and I am sitting home making comments....
@@joer1678 well nothing is for sure... but his last season at Utah St. was terrible, I am just saying most people and projections had him going way way later. And his first 3 seasons with GB in practice and Pre-season he was bad!! Kudos for GM and coach seeing the potential and being able to develop it.
@@ryanboldt7751 his last year he had 20 tds and 17 picks. That was with a whole new staff, all his playmakers left. The year before 32-6. The Packers were smart enough to look beyond one year. Plus they know drafting and developing works. They know QBs. Everyone thinks it’s just Favre, Rodgers, Love. Don’t forget Brunell, Hasselback, Detmer, Brooks, etc.
LOL...I love this shit! ALL you Packers fans who said we "reached," and he was a bust? Where you at now? Now EVERYONE was a fan! I mean, we know Bears fans and Vikings and are waiting for our demise(exercise in futility). But Love didn't get much LOVE from a lot of Packers fans till this year.
As a Niner fan, I said that from day 1, If Trey got proper development, I see him and Love being very similar QB's, and Trey's ceiling is a higher than Purdy's.
You think Love is better than Herbert? 😂😂😂 all it took was a few games at the end of last season and now you people are anointing him a GOD? Frkn hilarious!
Had Love been picked earlier he may have been forced to start before he was ready. He was raw as hell.
Exactly this. He could have ended up on the Bengals, forced on the field early, and fell out of the league by now.
@@edrueter9true
Still is. He is not a good QB if you watch the film. Just got an elite playcaller
@@erikpuka2627 watch the cowboys packers game and tell me that again with a straight face lol
@@erikpuka2627bro threw off his back foot for like the whole cowboys game and niners game
I’m happy love was takin that late because he wouldn’t be the player he is today without the packers
Right. Another team would have easily forced him into action and not taken the time to allow him to develop into who he is today.
Exactly
The Packers are the only team using this strategy. Well actually the Lions are doing it with H.Hooker but you'd figure there would be more teams trying it. Hell if I'm the Bears why not start Fields this final year of his contract and let Caleb watch and slowly learn and start the following year. Fields is still cheap.
This comment aged poorly@@billmadison9010
@@billmadison9010Mahomes sat for 1 year behind Alex Smith
2020 draft class was LOADED
Absolutely. There Even More Studs In This Class Like Jalen Hurts Tee Higgins And Micheal Pittman
You are 100 right
@@theofficialwalteeTee, JT, and more of what I can remember
New generation coming in a lot of these drafts are gonna have players that will be known eventually
@@theofficialwalteeand Joe Burrow
Everytime I think of Jordan Love I always think of Tom Grossi’s draft reaction 😂
Which is exactly why fans shouldn’t be or pretend to be GMs.
Nah, his reaction was fair. Love is great, but we had so many needs and guttie didn't draft those needs. If you recall we had an MVP QB the but still couldn't get a Super Bowl.
@@DyslexicLemonz correct, so many that the draft couldn’t patch them all. The pick of Love has now set us up to be in contention for the next 10 years. Rodgers just couldn’t get it done. I would argue it was more so due to TT having dementia while he was the guy deciding the roster. His drafts from 2012-2017 were atrocious and was a big reason why we could never make a run. That and thinking it was a good idea to fill defensive starters with undrafted rookies (M.D. Jennings) So a first rounder wasn’t going to be the difference. Tom was just being a fan who thought GB was a player away, and they weren’t.
@@bklounge_golfdid you watch the rest of Tom’s reaction where he praises Love? Or have you only seen the first part, and are ignorant.
@@theamazingoppo4918 he can praise him all he wants. He thought BG was an idiot for making the selection. My point is he’s smarter than a fan (which is Tom) and understands the complexities of roster building in the NFL. What are you not getting here bud.
I think Green Bay made a great decision, I was honestly questioning it but now I’m happy we did, we made a solid pick with Love and we will see some great improvements in his play. Last year was the first year starting and he did better than most of us expected.
Honest fan! Thank you for sharing!
All the pack fans were crying bout this pick! Now theyre all up on his train!
The Reagor pick still haunts me to this day...
I'll ever be haunted by the Tony Mandarich pick! And just before Barry Sanders no less...
The Love pick brings to mind the adage that it's better to draft a QB before you need one.
any true packer fan understood the jordan love pick. We all had the "wait and you'll see" mentality. He had all the upside, and given time to mature behind one of the best ever, we knew he could be just as good (without the lunacy)
No team has ever been better at developing drafted talent than Green Bay!!!!
And yet they have the same amount of Super Bowls as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers since 1970. 6 Years before the Bucs even existed.
Brad Johnson and Tom Brady combined to start 99 games for the Bucs and won 2 Super Bowls.
Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre combined to start 476 games for the Packers and won 2 Super Bowls.
@@WillMunyand the patriots have 4 more than you since then. Who cares, Packers have been relevant and in contention for over 30 years. Not easy to do.
@@aubesucks Bucs did not need Brady to win a Super Bowl. The Pathetic Pats did, and they needed to cheat.
@@WillMuny lmao that bucs team doesn’t touch the playoffs without Brady. Delusional
@@aubesucks Pats have zero Super Bowls without Brady, Bucs have One. I know it is hard to deal with, but You Can Do It!!!
I get the feeling that the guy reading the script in this video knows less about football than the average person in the comments
That's a tall task.
Honestly i think even if we (Packers) would have traded up and drafted Justin Jefferson instead of Jordan Love, it wouldn´t have been enough against that Tampa defense in 2020 and in 2021 our defense and special teams would have hurt us too much anyway to win.
Could be right…but then where would pack be now. I like the chances for many trophies with Love
Respect your opinion but Jefferson was OROY and absolutely 100% chance he makes GB on Offense better. Add him and DB69 and I’m about 60% sure the Packers make the SB. Not sure about beating KC because all teams match up different. 40% chance GB wins both games
Had the Packers taken TJ Watt instead of trading down and taking Kevin King, they would have gone to the Super Bowl.
Could you have imagined Jefferson and Adams on the same team? That would have changed the landscape of the offense, the Bucs would have had no chance. 49ers wouldn't have been able to double cover Adams. We should all agree that the Packers neglected WR for way too long because they didn't take a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round since Adams in 2014 at the time of the Jordan Love pick.
Still should have given Rodgers the chance
Jerry Jeudy wearing the star of David necklace always gets me 😂
It’s crazy how good the draft run from J. Jettas at 22 to Patrick Queen at 28 is, some absolute gems in the late 1st
Yeh except ruiz sucks now 😞 wish we just took love at 24 or aiyuk
I was one of those Packers fan who was loudly unhappy with the Love pick. He sure silenced me last season. I don't know if we have enough to say he'll be on par with Rodgers and Favre, but man, he sure has talent, and looks incredibly promising. It's hard to believe the Pack made it to the playoffs, and won a game, and almost beat the 49ers in the playoffs, in his first starting season. I think Rodgers does deserve credit too, for helping Love grow as a QB. Unlike Favre, he helped Love, taught him what he knew, and that definitely rubbed off on Love. I see a lot of Rodgers in Love.
Tom Clements doesn't get his due. The only QB coach to work with all three of them and has a TON to do with Rodgers and Love's development. He came out of retirement because he loves working with JLove and will be back next year at a young 73 years old
I lived through the Favre-Rodgers transition. Really didn't like Rodgers, really didn't like the team not focusing on getting Favre a second ring. Then Favre shit the bed in Dallas, got benched, and Rodgers played great the remainder of the game. Got over the post-HOF QB fits back then, so I was neutral to Love when he was drafted. Granted, Rodgers made it easy to transition to Love in those last two years.
Love was considered a top ten pick the year before. His coaching all left along with all his top players. His stats suffered so he dropped. Todd Mcshay said he was the qb with the most upside
I forget how loaded the 2020 draft was
Dont wanna seem crazy but a lot of the plays love makes really remind me of a young mobile rodgers
QB's who are given time to sit and learn behind a vet tend to have better success. Just like Rodgers, Love has been given a few years to acclimate and--while he still has a lot more room to grow--it's definitely paid off. Even Mahomes got to sit for a year and he looked SO bad in the preseason of his rookie season that I wasn't sure about him. 😂
It’s a beneficial luxury for young QB’s
Burrow started his 1st game though. Your statement is sort of a blanket statement that shouldn't apply to every team or player.
I had doubts like i had with Rodgers and it proved me wrong good job brass
I feel like players picked from 15-30 tend to be better pros. If Packers ever draft a QB in rd1 I'm just gonna trust it lo! Even if Love still has 4 years left
Great comment. Please let the bears keep picking top ten as it’s entertaining watching them screw it up year after year
It’s cool how the falcons selected the guy who’s hometown is Atlanta
disrespected Herbert for no reason
Mid
Packers got the infinite HOF QB Glitch lol 😂😂
Love this take that no one thought picking Love was a good idea when I saw more than one mock draft having the Packers taking him in the first round.
It was leaked about a week before the draft that GB had significant interest in him and the vast majority of fans were against it at the time. The popular thinking was that we should be pushing to compete as hard as we could the last couple years that we had Rodgers. A lot of the mocks were this is what I think will happen more than this is what I would do. I think up until like week 8 last year a lot of us were still fairly nervous about how it would turn out.
"Herbert hasnt won anything"
Yeah he plays for the fckn Chargers
This was a amazingly talented draft class. REALLY good.
It doesn’t matter what I think. Imo after what we know now (still limited). Jordan was in correct order for QB however he’d be a Top 10-12 selection imo. Maybe maybe top 8
Jordan Love wasn't ready to play until the middle of his 3rd season. He was Drafted in the back end of the 1st round. Right where a Developmental QB with a High Ceilling should be taken. He had a Very Low Floor. He needed the right place and time to develop. That is NOT a guy you take at the Top of the Draft.
Don't pretend Love would have been good in 2021.... What happened to Love used to be how all rookie QBs (even those taken in 1st round) would be treated. It was previously unheard of to start a rookie QB if you weren't trying to run them off. This is what can happen if you draft a QB to a situation they can sit and learn. He's a bust if he goes to most other teams
GB is known for drafting a QB before they need one, and letting him learn on the bench. I will not be surprised if Love hoists the Lombardi Trophy and has a bust in Canton.
As a packer fan of my own I'm realy glad The packs did
Damm thinking about Broncos taking jeudy over jjettas is crazy!😂
You know you made a good draft pick when they start making “what happened to the players drafted before” videos.
Don't want to see the video made about the people picked before puka nacua
I believe that Love was fortunate to sit and learn behind Rodgers. As some here said, Love was raw but with great potential
It's not that the players are a bust. The teams drafting them. Don't develop. Coaches are on such a short leash. They don't have time to develop players anymore. They're throwing kids into a man's game and wonder why
Great point.
pronouncing Tua's last name like that 💀
Ikr
I’ve heard it worse but it was definitely off. Do you think this is a computer voice or a human reading the narration? Not sure if it’s acceptable & considered Westernized to pronounce the “Tung” syllable as “Tag” within linguistics. Some names are seen as proper to pronounce more along the spelling but thought that disappeared from the NFL with Brett Favre whose name was even made fun of in the movie “Something About Mary.”
Brett "Favor" 🤣
This fan said at the time you MUST draft QBs before you need them. Also all the Round 1 WRs were gone, so people saying they should have gone WR are just wrong. Thank God fans don't make the picks.
Higgins was there though. Who went 2nd pick of second rd and wouldn’t had to move up either.
As a packer fan I can honestly say I was happy with Majkowski at center when he got hurt. I wasn't excited about drafting Rodgers and was pissed when Favre got traded. I didn't get excited when Love was drafted but I saw the writing on the wall and took it in stride. Sometimes I think it would be easier to be a Bears fan just to get excited about a linebacker or kick returner.
Pack traded up before SG’s pick to Aiyuk thinking SF were going in another direction. Love was the only player left with a 1st rd grade
and if you look at the players drafted after Love... Packers were right about their 1st rd grades
That's a solid draft class
the next great qb
Now that Justin Herbert has Jim Harbaugh, look out. Remember what Harbaugh did with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick? Imagine now. Give that man two drafts to load the roster.
Herbert is great. JH just has to get the D shored up.
He is better than Burrows and Herbert now, but on draft day he was not. They were the right picks at that time.
I'll admit I was baffled that we simply didn't take a receiver, but as a Packers fan I had absolutely nothing against Love. All I could think was "Dude is going to sit for a while" didn't understand just how good that would be for him
Well to start. No one really heard of him. Secondly his name was Love. That was more than enough to make everybody mad....GO PACK GO
If he had come out the year before he was projected as a top ten pick
Die hard Packer fan since the early’60’s . Let’s not ordain Love as a HOFer just yet . Showed promise the back end of ‘23 , so there is reason for optimism , but until he does it again … and again … and again …
You guys are lucky to only have like 5 qbs since early 60's
Love probably should've been drafted in the 2nd round... the only reason he is where he is today is that he was able to develop behind a veteran QB, and the Packers development program is probably the best in the NFL. The Packets front office had a cheat code formula for QB development akin to the Pythagorean theorem in geometry.
If I'm ever a QB in college and the Packers are 2-3 years out at changing QBs, I'm crossing my fingers they take me.
The Packers and QBs: a case study. Vikings have a great opportunity to take a QB and let him sit for a year behind Sam Darnold and coach the guy up.
With the Eagles pic at the time we all were mad but now we really don’t care about as much because we got the Deonte Smith and AJ Brown. We were able to pay both of them plus our quarterback the Vikings have a wide receiver who wanted to break the bank And he did I’m happy where the Eagles end up
I wasn't mad about Love because I wanted instant gratification, I was mad about it because 2 picks later was Patrick Queen. MLB run stopper. Oh, and the Packers still can't stop the run...
Queen is who I was rooting for
glad we took Love over Queen was pretty much a worse version of Quay Walker until Roquan came in
Queen wasn't good enough to get a 2md contract from the Ravens. Maybe GB still gets him?
In terms of value a QB is FAR more valuable than a MLB.
Prefering a Probowler LB over a Probolw QB is pretty bad draft strategy. There are 20 LBs for every genuine NFL QB.
@@kurtwicklund8901LB has a much safer floor though. Queen was guaranteed to come in and play all 5 years of his rookie deal while there was no guarantee that Love would play a single year of his. Obviously it worked out but there are also teams that have shot themselves in the foot by wasting 1st rounders on QBs they get no return from.
Packers know how to pick them QB’s & developing them
absolutely right that Gruden and Mayock should never be in charge of another draft, anywhere. those guys didn’t do their homework. Ruggs couldn't catch a cold and OSU DBs have a history of being low character.
I am not surprised about Jordan Love is the real deal for the Packers.
Am i the only one that still needs to see more than a 2nd half of a season to believe Love is the real deal?
He the real deal. Just watch in 2024.
calling jjetas a top 4 reciever is crazy underrating
Well hill, chase, and lamb all have an argument to be better but I agree
RIP all the raiders player leaving the NFL
I wish my Broncos would’ve picked Jefferson or Lamb
I'm so glad the lions regime has changed from the sheer incompetence it was. No lions fan wanted Okudah at #3.
All of the 1st rounders drafted after Love were busts except Queen, who was on his way to become a bust until Roquan came in to save his career.
Only Burrow, Thomas, Tua(questionable), Herbert, Brown(questionable), Wirfs, Terrell, Lamb, JJ, and Aiyuk are better or about the same tier of player as Love is.
Yeah Packers front knows what they're doing
Personally, I believe the QBs drafted in 2020 went in order of talent and the teams that didn't take a QB in the first 25 picks didn't have an immediate need at QB. It was the perfect first round with the exception of Jetta. That isn't a hindsight comment because of his dominance in the NFL, he was a Top 3 WR in college that year.
I think the packers missed put on a superbowl appearance by picking him. I also thing the absolute best thing for him was sitting behind Rodgers for 3 seasons. He looks great and was very raw entering camp.
There were plenty of good picks ahead of Love, and some who could of been if not for injuries. Would love to see what happened to the rest of the first round selections to see just how good this first round was.
Could have*
JJ hasn't had even halfway decent QB play since the Broncos drafted him. At least Ceedee Lamb gets regular season DakP
Most of these are valid
If youve seen Tom grossi’s video on project QB he talked about how in the draft, he said there was something called “Project QB”. And for those who don’t watch Tom grossi lemme explain: Tom explains that Rodgers sat behind Brett Favre and Rodgers became the best player we know of today. Then he says that Jordan love is a guy that needed to sit behind Rodgers for some time until we knew he was ready. And Tom says although we may have hated the packers and Brian for drafting a QB when at the time we didn’t need one, Tom says we may be thanking Brian later. And look at how well Jordon love has played. Us packers have a system unique to other franchises when it comes to quarterbacks.
Thanks for sharing!
@@thehalftimeshow Of course!
Would have put up bigger numbers. Remember JJ didn’t start his first two games.
Who had a better first year starting a season? Rookie or not. First season starting
Also. Why not put draft order numbers on the screen? It’s not hard & it’s a long list.
Because more people will watch the whole video this way, at least the channel hopes you will.
If Burrow keeps getting injured, Love might be the best QB of them all.
WOW, just wow, better than Herbert and Burrows? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and I thought Lion fans were getting ridiculous, you Packer fans are on par with Buckeye fans. The most hated fan base in sports because of your obnoxiousnes.
Maybe having your qb if possible sit behind a hall of gamer for three years is the way to go
The Packer know how to groom QB's, he wouldn't be as good anywhere else
ceedee aiyuk and JJ DAMN
Love should’ve went to the Commanders
They would have ruined him. He needed that development time.
Just saying we’re I think they should’ve taken him
@@Packersfan1231I understand what you meant, but only the packers can develop QBs the way we do so the commanders would’ve ruined him
@@Packersfan1231”we’re “?
I can tell you just making videos we traded up and drafted love at 12th overall
Henry Ruggs should be in for life
"Love should have never fallen to the 26th pick"
Love wasn't good when he was drafted. He had potential. Few times were willing or able to put in the time to develop that potential. Packers get good deals on QBs they draft because they can develop them, not because other teams just constantly miss these diamonds in the rough. You send Jordan Love to nearly any other team in 2020 and he's probably not putting up the numbers he did in 2023.
The guy hasn't even strung together one solid whole year and this vid is anointing him into the HOF after 5-6 good games.
Yep. Everyone just thinks GB always gets a great QB. Laughable how this guy has a decent season and, now that every team has seen him, they'll put him right back into oblivion. Seriously, this is beyond ridiculous.
@@jeromeariganello9874 we shall see. His play and numbers were better than both Favre and Rodgers their starting year. He appears to be able to read defenses, he's learning when to tuck and run, when to throw it away, and he sure limited his turnovers down the stretch. Watch the playoff game against the Cowboys again and you'll see why Packers fans think they've found their franchise QB. I mean he sucked early in the year and still ended up throwing more TD passes in the regular season than anyone but Dak. I doubt oblivion will be his future, though he might not fly as high as some would like.
Someone that sits that long comes out starting after a few years sitting behind a first round hofer and every game comes out with the same poise as his first game action should be respected especially after his second half surge. Who knows what happens next year but damn if he isn’t locked in for now and definitely worth a late 1sr rd pick
Apparently you didn’t watch those “5-6 good games” because they were really great performances from a guy in his first year starting.
@@thehalftimeshow Doesn't matter, why you making this video? Bro has been a starter for 1 year. Goofy
“Joe burrow fell into their laps” acting as if any team passed on him and he wasn’t the 1st overall pick lol
I think he should have been a second round pick cuz he needed time on the bench to grasp a pro offense.
Herbert hasn't won anything.... Because Brandon Staley was his head coach who cost the team a playoff spot by taking a meaningless timeout against Vegas, blew a 27 point lead to the Jags and had several other instances of losing games that had nothing to do with Herbert.
Aaron was NOT at the peak of his career when Love was drafted.
Still think there is a good chance Love will be a bust. One quarter of a season against mid opposition with your RB playing at a god tier level doesn't really constitute a pattern.
You're either really bitter or really stupid... maybe both.
I love this video
Packers could've taken Jalen Hurts ... Not saying id rather have him but he was there
Tush push in Green Bay?
Love sucked until the second half of this year. Had he been drafted earlier he would have been a bust and I’m extremely confident of that statement. He will always be a reach that ended up doing well cause he learned from Rodgers.
Before anyone talks about Favre to Rodgers, they’re polar opposites
Packers missed out on 2 super bowls with Rodgers because of that pick. And now we lost 4 years of Rodgers for a maybe in Love....
Yeah cause one rookie makes them win the Super Bowl tf r u talking about
Love is not all that and a bag of chips. There were plenty of players I would still have picked prior to him. He hasn't proven anything yet.
We’re acting like this dude is Tom Brady. I mean he has promise but this is hilarious 😂😂😂
Love had a better first season as starter than both favre and rodgers. If you don't think that's significant, nfl may not be your thing.
@@mrip31 It’s not significant at all actually. Is this your first season watching the NFL? Cam Newton had a better rookie year than Jordan Love and look what happened to him. Peyton Manning had one of the worst rookie seasons of all time and look how he turned out. It honestly means nothing. But go ahead and crown him the GOAT if you want to 😂😂😂
@@mattolson7037 I'm not going to argue with some idiot hater who speaks in hyperbole.
@@mrip31 I get it. You don’t want to argue because you have no clue. It’s okay. Have a good one
@@mattolson7037 I was taught a long time ago not to argue with stupid people.
Honestly i think he would be considered a bust if he went anywhere else
I remember okudahs very first start in the NFL he had to go against davante Adams all game😂😂😂
pure speculation... it is not that Love was not a good prospect at QB, it's more that thought that Love would still be there in the 3rd or 4th round. And that maybe have been true as Love was not good for the first 3 years of his career (as seen in practice and preseason - he was not ready). But the give the Packers credit, they saw and develop the potential and that is why they are in the business and I am sitting home making comments....
No way 3rd of 4th round lol
@@joer1678 well nothing is for sure... but his last season at Utah St. was terrible, I am just saying most people and projections had him going way way later. And his first 3 seasons with GB in practice and Pre-season he was bad!! Kudos for GM and coach seeing the potential and being able to develop it.
@@ryanboldt7751 his last year he had 20 tds and 17 picks. That was with a whole new staff, all his playmakers left. The year before 32-6. The Packers were smart enough to look beyond one year. Plus they know drafting and developing works. They know QBs. Everyone thinks it’s just Favre, Rodgers, Love. Don’t forget Brunell, Hasselback, Detmer, Brooks, etc.
As a browns fan I really wanted isaiah Simmons. Really glad he went before us and we didn’t get the chance to draft that bum
I appreciate your honesty Nate
What happens if Love regresses next year? Teams have a lot more film this year.
You could squeeze 3 videos out of this, Love, Lamb and Jefferson. All picked way too late
LOL...I love this shit! ALL you Packers fans who said we "reached," and he was a bust? Where you at now? Now EVERYONE was a fan!
I mean, we know Bears fans and Vikings and are waiting for our demise(exercise in futility). But Love didn't get much LOVE from a lot of Packers fans till this year.
Jordan love is what the niners should have done with Trey
As a Niner fan, I said that from day 1, If Trey got proper development, I see him and Love being very similar QB's, and Trey's ceiling is a higher than Purdy's.
That might be what Dallas is doing with Trey
They’re all better then him
Seems like one of the better drafts in recent memory!
Borrows and Love are the top two players from that draft with Herbert not far behind
You think Love is better than Herbert? 😂😂😂 all it took was a few games at the end of last season and now you people are anointing him a GOD? Frkn hilarious!
Why are we acting like Love is the next Aaron Rodger’s… he has a ton to prove.
He had a better first season as starter than rodgers. You must not watch a lot of Packer games.