@@Biggums6ix9ine hell no josh was a project. He would've been a worse josh rosen if he didn't go to the bills. His accuracy and field read were undeveloped going into the NFL
Impossible. There is no level of dysfunction on any NFL team that could possibly stop this from happening. To suggest this is to suggest that every elite QB that’s ever played was just luckily put into a perfect position and that is absolutely not true. Allen was drafted in a team with the 32nd ranked O Line and 32nd ranked WR group….which people tend to forget about. He was put into the worst situation possible yet is one of the best QB’s any of us has ever seen so there is no level of ineptitude that can stop elite next level talent.
@@axe2grind244 it’s not that every great QB lands in a great situation, like you said Josh had no help his rookie year But some teams are objectively worse at developing talent than others, it’s not like the Bills stagnated and held onto a bottom 3 receiver room and O line they put in the effort to build up the roster around him Franchises fail QBs before QBs fail franchises
Yup. And I'm one of them. He was seen as the ultimate "boom or bust" prospect with a much higher chance of being a bust than a success. The Bills have done a masterful job of adding talent around him and coaching him up to his potential.
I mean teams make or break young QB's. Just look at the long line of battered and ruined QBs from the Browns, The Jets and the Bears and etc etc. Hell even look at QB's who were likely all time talents like a Andrew Luck who just never got the pieces around them and got wore down to nothing. It's a brutal sport in a lot of ways.
@ that’s the tough part with comparing people on football, it depends on the team, coaching, scheme. I mean look at Sam Darnold doing good on the Vikings
John Elway who was the GM for Denver during 2018 draft has admitted he considered drafting Allen but went with Bradley Chubb instead. Although Chubb has had a good career Elway has said he deeply regrets not drafting Allen.
Browns is a cursed team playing in the toughest AFC division meanwhile Jets are a dysfunctional organization with extreme media pressure. He wouldn't have turned out in either of those teams the Bills was perfect for him.
I love when people use his rookie year against him. Nathan Peterman was supposed to start but then he threw more pick sixes than td's and he had to be replaced. his WR's that year were all 3rd rate, with the only bright spots in the offensive lineup were dawson knox and nearly washed shady mccoy.
@thumbsdownbandit ulcer causing? Nah, after Trent got hurt in 2008 it was more just despondency. I didn't really care anymore. I knew no matter who they played he would screw up. Even Tyrod was a guy who wouldn't lose you games but he wouldn't win em either. Then came the Josh, he has been soooooo much fun to watch.
Josh is having a better season in 2024 with only one interception, and it didn't come until Week 8. The Bills are 6-2 and will win the AFC East again. The losses in the playoffs aren't all Josh's doing, and the MVP votes tell you he's been better than his team has. He has the misfortune to be playing at the same time as Mahomes, whose team overall is better. All in all, he's been a hero for Buffalo.
Over the last 4 years he’s averaged 43 tds 14 ints. If anyone averaged those stats year in and year out they would have won at least one MVP. His average from the last 4 years has been what Lamar’s 2019 mvp year was. Lamar stans love to say he’s better than Josh because of MVPs yet Lamar has as many playoff wins as MVPs and won the weakest MVP in decades last year. Josh is playing so good that Lamar may win another MVP because media declaring it.
Exactly his stats blew away Le mars last year but he wasn't the right color.... Yeah I said it... The NFL wants Le Mars and fuzz head from Kansas City as the the face of the woke NFL
Anyone paying attention to Diggs production (or lack thereof) his last year with the Bills, coupled with his diva attitude (while doing…. Basically nothing) was thrilled to see him go.
I was sooo happy when Brady took over. Diggs wasn't targeted as much, and he dropped many of the ones he did get targeted. His whining was next level,lol. coleman will be elite,imo.
Diggs would whine every time that he felt that he wasn't getting enough targets. He's all about his own personal stats and forgot that this is supposed to be a TEAM sport. Everybody thought that losing him and Davis would destroy the Bills' offense this year, but Davis had too many games where he was invisible and had fewer than 10 yards receiving.
As a sports fan, I am really happy to see players like Baker, Darnold and Geno reviving their careers. Also great to see Saquon looking like himself again. The game is just better with stories like these. I hope Chubb can come back and have some good years too, just not against the Bills.
Since the start of 2020 he’s averaged 43 tds 14 ints year in and year out. The fact he not only has not won at least one MVP or been selected to more than one AP is a joke.
Except that however truly great he is, tjere are others who are stiff competition. Was he supposed to be MVP in place of Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, or Mahomes?
@ 2020 I think Allen should have won but I get why Rodgers won. 2021 Rodgers won because he had 4 ints. 2022 Mahomes threw for 5300 yards almost so I get why even though their stats were pretty close. That was the year Allen had the elbow injury so he stopped throwing the ball as much. I think last year he was robbed though. Lamar had the weakest MVP year in decades and won. Look at the stats and advanced stats it clearly shows who the best player was. In reality they just gave it to the guy on the best team and #1 seed. But this year they are trying to throw the narrative out the window of the “stats don’t matter” because Lamar is playing great this year but isn’t the #1 seed lol. I just think if anyone averaged 43 tds 14 ints 4385 passing 618 rushing year in and year out they would be MVP least once and have some APs. He’s averaged Lamar’s 2019 mvp year the last 4 years for example.
no, because other teams like the steelers and the eagles constantly find 6th & 7th round picks and turn them into pro bowlers so they probably get that praise
It depends on what coaching staff that had him. Allen was a meh quarterback his first 2 seasons. But the Bills staff literally scrapped entirely on how Josh throws a football through advanced assessment between years 2 to 3. And Josh put in the work to adapt to this new method for him, which rewarded him in leveling up his ability to throw a football dramatically and was blowing teams out of the water in year 3.
Well he is similar to Peyton Manning and Mahomes is similar to Brady; Manning had a bad start but developed into a hall of famer, similar to Allen. Plus he always loses to Brady in the postseason, similar to Allen against Mahomes.
Baker and Darnold are proof that sometimes its not the player but the orginization. This is interesting look at it. Considering the players in front are still in the league, and are playing well, maybe not Allen level, but they are still solid.
I've been a Browns fan since the Kardiac Kids. At the time of this draft, I was hoping that Browns would take Allen. I figured he is what they needed. I was annoyed at their choice to take Mayfield.... not that I didn't think he could play.. but I didn't see it as a fit, in terms of attitude and disposition. Now... After seeing how things have unfolded since, I'm glad they didn't take Allen... the organization has been so broken they probably would have screwed up Allen's first few years anyway and made personnel mistakes anyway that wouldn't compliment Allen. So yeah.... good on Allen..... I wish him the best.
Nice video for sure but Allen's development wasn't lucky and had everything to do with the organization and his offseason work with throwing mechanics, something players like Cam Newton never fixed. You can't tell me that if the Jets or Browns drafted him that he'd be where he's at right now. He might not even be a starter or in the league and likely wouldn't have had the leash that the Bills gave him to develop in the first place.
Josh's working off-season with QB gurus has shown he wants to learn & refine his craft. I saw his Combine, & told my sons he would be ours. They scoffed. But not now,lol. That dude works hard & studies.❤
@@bherylkuebler986 I think some Bills fans take the front office for granted, so many organizations are complete dumpster fires with no end in sight. I think our scouting is up there.
Having seen the Bills fans reactions to taking him at 7, can only imagine the Browns tragics if they had taken him 1 or even 4. Thought it was a pretty fair review, acknowledging too why Indianapolis wouldn't have been interested. If anybody stuffed up. maybe Elway at the Broncos (and not for the first or last time).
My favorite part about Bills fans convincing themselves that Josh was robbed of the MVP last year is that he didn’t finish second. Or third… or fourth. He finished fifth. You can argue all you want that Lamar didn’t deserve it (he did), but all you’re really saying is it should’ve gone to Dak lol
@@Jp-do9ny And Dak had more passing yards, touchdowns, half as many interceptions, and more wins than Allen. Again, you can argue that stats should’ve played a bigger role, but that doesn’t help the argument that Allen should’ve won it
Mayfield was more pro ready than Allen, but Mayfield didn't have nearly as much of a ceiling. He wasn't seen as an on-field leader, either, and the Browns eventually unloaded him because they needed "an adult in the room". Going to the Browns where he seemingly had a different coaching staff every year would have ruined even the *best* QB prospect. Barkley is a solid running back, but the Giants desperately needed a QB to take over for Eli Manning. They mistakenly thought that Manning could still take them to the playoffs and that Barkley would be the missing piece to their puzzle. They have paid *dearly* for that mistake by reaching for Daniel Jones in a subsequent draft, and he is now a boat anchor on that organization after badly overpaying him when he shouldn't even be a starting QB. Overpaying for Jones prevented them from retaining Barkley. Darnold was a "can't miss" QB prospect, but the Jets (incorrectly) assumed that drafting a QB would solve all of their problems. They did absolutely *nothing* to add talent around him on offense, and -- like the Browns -- they went through several coaching changes which gave Darnold conflicting messages and screwed up his development. After picking Mayfield, the Browns weren't going to spend a second pick on a QB, so they picked a CB, Ward. He's had a pretty good career, so this has been a reasonable pick. Chubb has been a good DE despite his injuries, but this seemed like a no-brainer for a QB-needy team to pick Allen, especially when he had played college in nearby Wyoming. He would have been an instant hero there. Instead, they've muddled along with Keenum and a variety of bad QBs for the past several years. The Colts still had Luck and had no idea that he would retire the following year, so they picked one of the best interior OL prospects that has come along in many years. They had no need for a QB at the time. This left Tampa on the clock, and they were still hoping Winston would develop into a long-term starter, so they were willing to trade the pick. This gave the Bills the opportunity they needed to move up and select Allen.
Gettleman was a poor GM for the Giants, and yeah, not drafting Josh Allen is an example. But the Giants had many needs, and fixing the run game before drafting a new qb is a good philosophy. Sometimes young qb's get ruined because the pressure and expectations are high, but they dont have the support to help them early. They signed Solder and drafted Will Hernandez to support a new qb, which obviously didn't work out. But the idea wasn't terrible.
I would still take Baker first based on scouting and estimates. Problem is Cleveland is worst place for any QB. So Lamar and Josh Allen probably would been a bust if playing for the Browns. Saquon Barkley has been MVP level when healthy. And with Eagles he probably too contender with Josh Allen as MVP for season. I was never high on Sam Darnold, but he has been solid, but much better in Minnesota, definitely would have chosen Josh Allen at 3. So it felt pretty good spot for Josh Allen to get picked at 7. Like Big Ben.
Allen rookie year wasn't that bad he had no wrs or te shady on his last leg bad o-line and still went 5-5 as a starter in games he started & finish i knew allen had in his 1st official start vs the Vikings
If the shoe was on the other foot and Josh Allen was dropped off in Kansas City guaranteed they would have won 6 super bowls ina row josh got thrown in to a rebuild and still did amazing shit wnd and still is he deserves MVP for the past few years Patrick had everything he needed and has a great coach 👍🏿
Buffalo was a right place, right time scenario. I guarantee Cleveland, NYJ, NYG, and Denver would have killed his career before it really started. Depriving us all of the entertaining greatness we get to enjoy today. Dude deserves a gold jacket already imo despite no MVP or SB wins yet.
none of these guys, regardless of position is as valuable as JA17. you need a good to great QB to even attempt to win it all, theyre so rare, doesnt matter if a G is the best guard in the league, top 3 QB trumps that.
You left out Baker regressed in Cleveland due to a torn labrum and played anyways. There was drama with a receiver! In his time in Cleveland he had 4 head coaches and new offensive coordinators. No stability! Carolina was a Sh_t show. Only QB who faced that kind of BS was Darnold who also was in the sh_t show of Carolina. Now both are doing well.
Im a Bills fan and love Josh. I wouldnt trade him for any other QB incuding Mahomes. That being said Im sure KC are totally happy with him and their Super Bowl rings.
@@philipgibson9091Of course not not like the Bills will ever get a ring anyway……😂😂😂😂😂 You might as well have a excuse, looking forward to that look on Josh’s face again this year. 15 will take dudes lunch money again Chiefs will dominate the Bills like a prison girlfriend once again.
To summarize this entire video........they're all basically doing great lol. Chubb just gotta get healthy and when he is he's good. The video did not need to be 20 min, but money matters and I resepct that 🤣
Weird video because it's assuming Allen has accomplished something in his career. He's literally won nothing and has been top 1 or 2 in interceptions his whole career. What happened to the 6 players drafted before him? They probably have achieved exactly the same amount Allen has. No ring, no MVP, no all pro, never led the league in relevant stats, has led the league in the worst stat for his position, and has never had a first round bye in the playoffs. Most rushing tds by a QB in a season is the best he can do. Great RB. Below average QB without Diggs or Cooper. Weird video.
@@FantasyPhenomsI’m not sure, but I’m kinda getting the feeling he thinks this videos weird… Considering Allen’s dragged the bills to the playoffs a number of times when his supporting cast hasn’t been stellar I wouldn’t say he’s done nothing but yeah, Fantasy how bout you do what happened to all the players drafted before Brock Purdy while your at it.
He also holds the record for most TD's through any QB's first 7 seasons, beating Mahomes record. Mahomes only had a few less interceptions than Allen last season. When you throw the ball a lot, you're going to have some interceptions. Also, you wanna play the interception game? Josh Allen has a grand total of TWO interceptions this season through 9 games, and he has thrown 17 TD passes. He didn't throw his first interception of the season until week 8, and neither of the two he has thrown are really his fault. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes has NINE interceptions on the season to his eight TD passes.🥴. Seems like Allen is taking pretty good care of the ball this season. 😊
The Jets and Browns would’ve ruined him
i dont think so since baker was semi successful on the browns, but tbh baker was better coming into the league while josh needed to develop
@@Biggums6ix9ine hell no josh was a project. He would've been a worse josh rosen if he didn't go to the bills. His accuracy and field read were undeveloped going into the NFL
Impossible. There is no level of dysfunction on any NFL team that could possibly stop this from happening. To suggest this is to suggest that every elite QB that’s ever played was just luckily put into a perfect position and that is absolutely not true. Allen was drafted in a team with the 32nd ranked O Line and 32nd ranked WR group….which people tend to forget about. He was put into the worst situation possible yet is one of the best QB’s any of us has ever seen so there is no level of ineptitude that can stop elite next level talent.
@@axe2grind244 it’s not that every great QB lands in a great situation, like you said Josh had no help his rookie year
But some teams are objectively worse at developing talent than others, it’s not like the Bills stagnated and held onto a bottom 3 receiver room and O line they put in the effort to build up the roster around him
Franchises fail QBs before QBs fail franchises
dude the bills were awful before he got drafted
I dont blame the Browns for picking Baker Mayfield. I blame the Browns for not keeping Baker Mayfield.
I blame the Browns for playing Baker through injury in 2021. They should have sacrificed that season for long term success.
My gut feeling is that Baker needed to leave to become a better person and player.
0:57 It’s actually hilarious. All those fans that were pissed when they drafted him, own and wear his jersey now. 🤣😂🤣.
Yea kinda made me wanna slap them. 🤣🤣🤣
Yup. And I'm one of them. He was seen as the ultimate "boom or bust" prospect with a much higher chance of being a bust than a success. The Bills have done a masterful job of adding talent around him and coaching him up to his potential.
As a Browns fan he wouldn't be the same on our team
I mean teams make or break young QB's. Just look at the long line of battered and ruined QBs from the Browns, The Jets and the Bears and etc etc. Hell even look at QB's who were likely all time talents like a Andrew Luck who just never got the pieces around them and got wore down to nothing. It's a brutal sport in a lot of ways.
@ that’s the tough part with comparing people on football, it depends on the team, coaching, scheme. I mean look at Sam Darnold doing good on the Vikings
John Elway who was the GM for Denver during 2018 draft has admitted he considered drafting Allen but went with Bradley Chubb instead. Although Chubb has had a good career Elway has said he deeply regrets not drafting Allen.
Josh Allen for MVP 25' 🏆🦬🏈
14 TDs
1 INT
8 Games ...
Yeah just give him the MVP now 🏆😂🔥🏈🦬
Come Sunday vs Dolphins...
17 TDs
1 INT
9 Games
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Allen owns the Phins
Bro it’s 2024 lol why would his stats this year help him win MVP in the 2025 season lol
@@jwill294 you can't be serious right now???? 😭😭😭
Browns is a cursed team playing in the toughest AFC division meanwhile Jets are a dysfunctional organization with extreme media pressure. He wouldn't have turned out in either of those teams the Bills was perfect for him.
Broooo. There’s no shot I come across a random video while I’m bored and it’s the GOAT!! What’s up my man!! Glad to see you’re alive😂
Yoooo I recognized that profile pic right when I saw it😂😂
I love when people use his rookie year against him. Nathan Peterman was supposed to start but then he threw more pick sixes than td's and he had to be replaced. his WR's that year were all 3rd rate, with the only bright spots in the offensive lineup were dawson knox and nearly washed shady mccoy.
These people have never seen the stomach ulcer causing pre-Allen offense.
@thumbsdownbandit ulcer causing? Nah, after Trent got hurt in 2008 it was more just despondency. I didn't really care anymore. I knew no matter who they played he would screw up. Even Tyrod was a guy who wouldn't lose you games but he wouldn't win em either. Then came the Josh, he has been soooooo much fun to watch.
Josh is having a better season in 2024 with only one interception, and it didn't come until Week 8. The Bills are 6-2 and will win the AFC East again. The losses in the playoffs aren't all Josh's doing, and the MVP votes tell you he's been better than his team has. He has the misfortune to be playing at the same time as Mahomes, whose team overall is better. All in all, he's been a hero for Buffalo.
Over the last 4 years he’s averaged 43 tds 14 ints. If anyone averaged those stats year in and year out they would have won at least one MVP. His average from the last 4 years has been what Lamar’s 2019 mvp year was. Lamar stans love to say he’s better than Josh because of MVPs yet Lamar has as many playoff wins as MVPs and won the weakest MVP in decades last year.
Josh is playing so good that Lamar may win another MVP because media declaring it.
People don’t give him the credit for his mental awareness and knowledge of his craft
He also spends the offseason working on his mechanics and areas of his game that he knows need improvement.
We need one video for what happend to the players drafted before Brock Purdy
Maybe change that to qbs... You do realize he was the LAST pick?
@WR4264 they realize and are trying to torture me😂
@@FantasyPhenoms REALLY? yikes. I dont think it gets better from here tbh.
@@WR4264 of course I realize that he was the last pick „mr Irrelevant“
@@Sicardiii 👍
Josh Allen is playing so well that Lamar Jackson might win another MVP this year
😂
Yeah cause Lamar’s been playing terribly.
@@nonewthing not even the mvp on his own team. Henry is way more impressive.
@@SwampusMcGarniglus So you believe Henry is the MVP? Cause Lamar is by far the best quarterback this year lol
Exactly his stats blew away Le mars last year but he wasn't the right color.... Yeah I said it... The NFL wants Le Mars and fuzz head from Kansas City as the the face of the woke NFL
Anyone paying attention to Diggs production (or lack thereof) his last year with the Bills, coupled with his diva attitude (while doing…. Basically nothing) was thrilled to see him go.
I was sooo happy when Brady took over. Diggs wasn't targeted as much, and he dropped many of the ones he did get targeted. His whining was next level,lol. coleman will be elite,imo.
Diggs would whine every time that he felt that he wasn't getting enough targets. He's all about his own personal stats and forgot that this is supposed to be a TEAM sport. Everybody thought that losing him and Davis would destroy the Bills' offense this year, but Davis had too many games where he was invisible and had fewer than 10 yards receiving.
The fact hes been to the pro bowl twice even with his crazy numbers has alwys been so bizarre to me.
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Bills fans have been saying that for 7 years. Delusional. It's not even confidence, it's delusion.
As a sports fan, I am really happy to see players like Baker, Darnold and Geno reviving their careers. Also great to see Saquon looking like himself again. The game is just better with stories like these. I hope Chubb can come back and have some good years too, just not against the Bills.
People watching this after he beat the chiefs that were 9-0
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Bro is the best qb
Josh Allen is a fantastic quarterback.
baker was not a bad qb on the browns he was a great qb and extremely underrated
Great video 🔥
Thank you!
Since the start of 2020 he’s averaged 43 tds 14 ints year in and year out. The fact he not only has not won at least one MVP or been selected to more than one AP is a joke.
Except that however truly great he is, tjere are others who are stiff competition. Was he supposed to be MVP in place of Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, or Mahomes?
@ 2020 I think Allen should have won but I get why Rodgers won. 2021 Rodgers won because he had 4 ints. 2022 Mahomes threw for 5300 yards almost so I get why even though their stats were pretty close. That was the year Allen had the elbow injury so he stopped throwing the ball as much. I think last year he was robbed though. Lamar had the weakest MVP year in decades and won. Look at the stats and advanced stats it clearly shows who the best player was.
In reality they just gave it to the guy on the best team and #1 seed. But this year they are trying to throw the narrative out the window of the “stats don’t matter” because Lamar is playing great this year but isn’t the #1 seed lol.
I just think if anyone averaged 43 tds 14 ints 4385 passing 618 rushing year in and year out they would be MVP least once and have some APs.
He’s averaged Lamar’s 2019 mvp year the last 4 years for example.
Shouldn’t the bills player development get a lot of praise. 🤔
no, because other teams like the steelers and the eagles constantly find 6th & 7th round picks and turn them into pro bowlers so they probably get that praise
@@caroo367what about at qb?
This dudes are all studs! Sam just took some time
It depends on what coaching staff that had him. Allen was a meh quarterback his first 2 seasons. But the Bills staff literally scrapped entirely on how Josh throws a football through advanced assessment between years 2 to 3.
And Josh put in the work to adapt to this new method for him, which rewarded him in leveling up his ability to throw a football dramatically and was blowing teams out of the water in year 3.
He's incredible. He would have been in a few Superbowls if not for Mahomes and Brady. Buffalo needs to get him some receivers
Well he is similar to Peyton Manning and Mahomes is similar to Brady; Manning had a bad start but developed into a hall of famer, similar to Allen. Plus he always loses to Brady in the postseason, similar to Allen against Mahomes.
* Stefon -Diggs- Diva
Somebody @ this guy please 1:04
we need that to happen!
Josh Allen is the worst thing to ever happen to John Elway
He sometimes reminds me of Elway,too.
My GOAT!
the real question is what happened to the 31 players drafted before Lamar Jackson
Baker and Darnold are proof that sometimes its not the player but the orginization. This is interesting look at it. Considering the players in front are still in the league, and are playing well, maybe not Allen level, but they are still solid.
I wish the so called Bills fans that weren’t happy would be thrown out of Bills Mafia
Whose here after barkley hit the backwards hurdle
I've been a Browns fan since the Kardiac Kids. At the time of this draft, I was hoping that Browns would take Allen. I figured he is what they needed. I was annoyed at their choice to take Mayfield.... not that I didn't think he could play.. but I didn't see it as a fit, in terms of attitude and disposition.
Now... After seeing how things have unfolded since, I'm glad they didn't take Allen... the organization has been so broken they probably would have screwed up Allen's first few years anyway and made personnel mistakes anyway that wouldn't compliment Allen. So yeah.... good on Allen..... I wish him the best.
12:10 dam Darnold😂
Nice video for sure but Allen's development wasn't lucky and had everything to do with the organization and his offseason work with throwing mechanics, something players like Cam Newton never fixed. You can't tell me that if the Jets or Browns drafted him that he'd be where he's at right now. He might not even be a starter or in the league and likely wouldn't have had the leash that the Bills gave him to develop in the first place.
Josh's working off-season with QB gurus has shown he wants to learn & refine his craft. I saw his Combine, & told my sons he would be ours. They scoffed. But not now,lol. That dude works hard & studies.❤
Oh,and I agree that the Bills Organization has been hugely instrumental in Josh being sooo good.
@@bherylkuebler986 I think some Bills fans take the front office for granted, so many organizations are complete dumpster fires with no end in sight. I think our scouting is up there.
Having seen the Bills fans reactions to taking him at 7, can only imagine the Browns tragics if they had taken him 1 or even 4. Thought it was a pretty fair review, acknowledging too why Indianapolis wouldn't have been interested. If anybody stuffed up. maybe Elway at the Broncos (and not for the first or last time).
lol Panthers traded for 2 of these guys...probably hoping Josh's career tanks so they can get him too
It's not like Allen has ever won anything in his career
Not a Panthers fan but they’ve been to 2 Super Bowls this century.
Bills? Allen?
Crickets.
@@jogendron6320 well a century is quite a long time...Bills made the super bowl 4 straight years...won as many as the Panthers did lol
Video Idea: "What Happened To The 261 Players Drafted Before Brock Purdy?"
My favorite part about Bills fans convincing themselves that Josh was robbed of the MVP last year is that he didn’t finish second. Or third… or fourth. He finished fifth. You can argue all you want that Lamar didn’t deserve it (he did), but all you’re really saying is it should’ve gone to Dak lol
Real Bills fans don’t give a shit about the MVP award (which is just based on who has better stats). We want a Lombardi! So does 17!
That's because awards are determined by the media. Allen was better in every metric than Lamar except interceptions
@@Jp-do9ny And Dak had more passing yards, touchdowns, half as many interceptions, and more wins than Allen. Again, you can argue that stats should’ve played a bigger role, but that doesn’t help the argument that Allen should’ve won it
Lamar didnt deserve MVP, CMC did.
But through 9 weeks this year Lamar should win MVP unanimously
Honestly I think the whole "seeing ghosts" making Sam Darnold the joke was a little unfair. That shit is definitely on the o-line.
Mayfield was more pro ready than Allen, but Mayfield didn't have nearly as much of a ceiling. He wasn't seen as an on-field leader, either, and the Browns eventually unloaded him because they needed "an adult in the room". Going to the Browns where he seemingly had a different coaching staff every year would have ruined even the *best* QB prospect. Barkley is a solid running back, but the Giants desperately needed a QB to take over for Eli Manning. They mistakenly thought that Manning could still take them to the playoffs and that Barkley would be the missing piece to their puzzle. They have paid *dearly* for that mistake by reaching for Daniel Jones in a subsequent draft, and he is now a boat anchor on that organization after badly overpaying him when he shouldn't even be a starting QB. Overpaying for Jones prevented them from retaining Barkley. Darnold was a "can't miss" QB prospect, but the Jets (incorrectly) assumed that drafting a QB would solve all of their problems. They did absolutely *nothing* to add talent around him on offense, and -- like the Browns -- they went through several coaching changes which gave Darnold conflicting messages and screwed up his development. After picking Mayfield, the Browns weren't going to spend a second pick on a QB, so they picked a CB, Ward. He's had a pretty good career, so this has been a reasonable pick. Chubb has been a good DE despite his injuries, but this seemed like a no-brainer for a QB-needy team to pick Allen, especially when he had played college in nearby Wyoming. He would have been an instant hero there. Instead, they've muddled along with Keenum and a variety of bad QBs for the past several years. The Colts still had Luck and had no idea that he would retire the following year, so they picked one of the best interior OL prospects that has come along in many years. They had no need for a QB at the time. This left Tampa on the clock, and they were still hoping Winston would develop into a long-term starter, so they were willing to trade the pick. This gave the Bills the opportunity they needed to move up and select Allen.
Gettleman was a poor GM for the Giants, and yeah, not drafting Josh Allen is an example. But the Giants had many needs, and fixing the run game before drafting a new qb is a good philosophy. Sometimes young qb's get ruined because the pressure and expectations are high, but they dont have the support to help them early. They signed Solder and drafted Will Hernandez to support a new qb, which obviously didn't work out. But the idea wasn't terrible.
Saquon is having his best year
I would still take Baker first based on scouting and estimates. Problem is Cleveland is worst place for any QB. So Lamar and Josh Allen probably would been a bust if playing for the Browns.
Saquon Barkley has been MVP level when healthy. And with Eagles he probably too contender with Josh Allen as MVP for season.
I was never high on Sam Darnold, but he has been solid, but much better in Minnesota, definitely would have chosen Josh Allen at 3.
So it felt pretty good spot for Josh Allen to get picked at 7. Like Big Ben.
You should find the guy on the video that was mad LOL
Allen rookie year wasn't that bad he had no wrs or te shady on his last leg bad o-line and still went 5-5 as a starter in games he started & finish i knew allen had in his 1st official start vs the Vikings
I'm the biggest KC Chiefs you'll ever meet. That playoff game with the Chiefs, bad callls made me cringe.
That 13 second game was heartbreaking...but also one of the best games. That, and the nearly perfect game against the Patriots. Darn good football.
If the shoe was on the other foot and Josh Allen was dropped off in Kansas City guaranteed they would have won 6 super bowls ina row josh got thrown in to a rebuild and still did amazing shit wnd and still is he deserves MVP for the past few years Patrick had everything he needed and has a great coach 👍🏿
It's almost impossible to succeed in a trash organization...not fair to young players
Buffalo was a right place, right time scenario. I guarantee Cleveland, NYJ, NYG, and Denver would have killed his career before it really started. Depriving us all of the entertaining greatness we get to enjoy today. Dude deserves a gold jacket already imo despite no MVP or SB wins yet.
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Sounds like the Panthers will take pretty much any QB
I said it back then, the Browns should have taken Barkley and then Allen.
Baker is lucky Cleveland dumped him but they totally screwed him over...and they're eating crow now...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Do Jalen hurts next
pfff the shocking thing is that he was drafted before lamar
none of these guys, regardless of position is as valuable as JA17. you need a good to great QB to even attempt to win it all, theyre so rare, doesnt matter if a G is the best guard in the league, top 3 QB trumps that.
You left out Baker regressed in Cleveland due to a torn labrum and played anyways. There was drama with a receiver! In his time in Cleveland he had 4 head coaches and new offensive coordinators. No stability! Carolina was a Sh_t show. Only QB who faced that kind of BS was Darnold who also was in the sh_t show of Carolina. Now both are doing well.
Watching this before the bills beat the colts 41-17
Anyone with a brain would take Allen over Mahomes. Only the delusional Chiefs fans are this gullible.
Im a Bills fan and love Josh. I wouldnt trade him for any other QB incuding Mahomes. That being said Im sure KC are totally happy with him and their Super Bowl rings.
IKR! The only thing Mahomes is better at is making the big plays near games end to win it. Otherwise JA all day 😊
@@mick58kc72Lol Mahomes is better at everything keep lying to yourself to make it better 😂😂😂😂
@@philipgibson9091Of course not not like the Bills will ever get a ring anyway……😂😂😂😂😂 You might as well have a excuse, looking forward to that look on Josh’s face again this year. 15 will take dudes lunch money again Chiefs will dominate the Bills like a prison girlfriend once again.
@@blueberrywilbur315 this year mahomes is leading the league in picks unless your joking
Lamar Jackson says hello.
At 1:00 the guy in the front is my step-dad
On god
7:00 baker is ur head ok lol
As a giants fan I’m happy for Barkley he deserved better than our poverty franchise
The only person in the world who thought keeping Danny Jones over Barkley is sadly the person responsible for making that decision
Josh Allen is the new phillip rivers
Rivers didn't have legs
SILENCE THE HATERS!!!!!!!!!
I like baker and I’m a bills fan.
Crazy his been in the league for 6 yrs no ring no MVP and no Super Bowl appearances
does that make him a bad player? Less of a player?
Yes it does.
To summarize this entire video........they're all basically doing great lol. Chubb just gotta get healthy and when he is he's good. The video did not need to be 20 min, but money matters and I resepct that 🤣
great for fantasy No trophies for Bills
Yet
1991 called, wants their line back.
Same old bills !
Weird video because it's assuming Allen has accomplished something in his career. He's literally won nothing and has been top 1 or 2 in interceptions his whole career. What happened to the 6 players drafted before him? They probably have achieved exactly the same amount Allen has. No ring, no MVP, no all pro, never led the league in relevant stats, has led the league in the worst stat for his position, and has never had a first round bye in the playoffs. Most rushing tds by a QB in a season is the best he can do. Great RB. Below average QB without Diggs or Cooper. Weird video.
@@krenbenz6991 did you think this was a weird video? I couldn’t tell if you thought it was weird
@@FantasyPhenomsI’m not sure, but I’m kinda getting the feeling he thinks this videos weird… Considering Allen’s dragged the bills to the playoffs a number of times when his supporting cast hasn’t been stellar I wouldn’t say he’s done nothing but yeah, Fantasy how bout you do what happened to all the players drafted before Brock Purdy while your at it.
He also holds the record for most TD's through any QB's first 7 seasons, beating Mahomes record. Mahomes only had a few less interceptions than Allen last season. When you throw the ball a lot, you're going to have some interceptions.
Also, you wanna play the interception game? Josh Allen has a grand total of TWO interceptions this season through 9 games, and he has thrown 17 TD passes. He didn't throw his first interception of the season until week 8, and neither of the two he has thrown are really his fault. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes has NINE interceptions on the season to his eight TD passes.🥴. Seems like Allen is taking pretty good care of the ball this season. 😊
Yet you wish he was the QB for your team. It's ok to admit it.
@@browneyedgirlgbThanks for posting this, saved me a lot of time :)
Ya.
He is known as the
GREATEST
QB
Ever !
There is NO other QB
That is better then him
I'm sure your professional football career makes you an
EXPERT.