@@bobbyhiggins4694 Because Lance sucked so bad, he had a whole training camp and pre-season to prove something after his injury. Best he could do was 3rd string then bitch to get traded. Dude could've been QB2 on the 49ers right now !! Instead he's in Dallas Cowboys basement ! 9ers would've resigned him as a backup and he would've improved without Darnold being there, pride was his enemy.
Trey Lance was much worse because of all of the draft capital the Niners had to give up for him. The Warriors had the pick to get Wiseman without trading up. I agree that both were bad picks, but Lance was so much worse. You can make a case that it is a top 3-5 worst draft decision of all time in the NFL. I don't know the whole history of the NFL so I can't honestly make that case myself. But simply looking at all of the details of the trade to get the number 3 pick, the fact that he might have been available at the 12 pick or at least at a later pick than the 3 they used to get him. Maybe 8 or 9, I'd have to go back to see which teams were there and needed a QB. But Trey wasn't a highly graded QB in that draft that was supposedly loaded at the QB position. So to sum up how awful the Lance trade was, they traded 2 future 1sts, a future 3rd, and swapped the 12 for the 3 pick. They didn't know which QB they would even get at the time of the trade!! Which is f***ing unbelievable. They picked a player who would have most likely been available later in the 1st round, more like a high mid 1st. They then proceeded to have no idea how to handle the QB room since they planned on keeping Jimmy G as the starter and have Trey learn behind him, which would prevent Lance from getting any true playing time which he was lacking in experience dating back to college where he only played something like 400 snaps in total due to injuries, COVID, etc. He played at a small school against lesser competition. I can go on, but yeah it was not a great trade lol
Niners would have had Micah and kept two firsts and a third. That's potentially three starters on rookie contracts which would have built the team nicely.
@@rr-ti2xp Totally agree. Too many collegiate players have a good season and try to cash in when they're really average to subpar. Can't blame them but NFL teams should be smarter than that.
I agree but the sucky thing is that if you're a good enough QB like maybe Joe Flacco, or Carson Wentz, the bridge shouldn't matter. In this case Trey Lance didnt have that dawg in him... :(
To call Lance a radical OVER-REACH would be an understatement. He wasn't close to NFL ready and Shanahan must have felt like a moron after what they gave up to get him. He had a good preseason with Dallas, though...but that's also not saying much.
@@PhilAndersonOutsideand in the two games before that, I’d say at least 70-80% of his passes were completed bc he had acrobats as receivers. Behind, over, under, below…ugh was sad to watch.
Agreed, but the pre season. Lance still being on an NFL roster is a mystery of Peterman proportions. Those two none QBs must have dirt on owners, the only explanation they steal roster spots and money from real QBs.
Here's why it happened: The 49ers believed that Lance had enough resident innate talent that all he needed to do was just make a play here or there while being surrounded by elite offensive weapons, playing in a QB-friendly scheme, and having an elite play caller at the helm. All Lance needed to be was _at minimum_ just good enough to do basic things that could be expected of a professional-grade QB. The belief was that through the season he'd grow and mature and eventually he'd be able to really assume the reigns the following season and go off into glory. The reality: kid had the accuracy of Ray Charles. This is what they saw from the very beginning and knew it wasn't getting better. It also became evident that he wasn't an elusive runner. He lumbered. But lastly he just wasn't showing the expected gradual improvements that are justifiably expected of a player who supposedly had the talents and abilities he possessed. Growth should always be evident no matter what. Lance never grew. Lucky for Lance he got paid. Got his bag. But will also go down as one of the NFL's biggest busts too.
If it were true what you wrote, 49ers could have picked ANY QB in any round instead of wasting future drafts. There goes your theory ;-) Actually 49ers believed they can spot QB talent (they cant, played silly games with JG, later got lucky with Purdy). And still karma hits Shanhan and Lynch each year in most embarassing ways. I chuckle every time 🙂
Yea they forced him to get that experience too fast, it’s like putting a 10 year old in a driver seat a going “here you go, you take you’re drivers test tomorrow, better learn.” Being a backup is the best thing that could happen to him
In 49er history???? How about the worst trade in NFL History. What you guys gave up to draft him and to IMMEDIATELY let him go was fucking hilarious. This kid proved literally nothing prior to getting him drafted 😂😂
After 49ers lost to The Rams a couple years ago in the NFC Conference game; many 49ers fans quickly took to twitter to spew vitriol against Jimmy Garoppolo. Professing that it was time to bring on Trey Lance. They had no idea what they were talking about.
@@FoxxyBrown1111 Small sample size? 😆 It's Jimmy's 4th Qrt playoff stats? Nothing small about the 4th Qrt in the playoffs and Superbowl. Maybe you should try another sport. PING PONG might be up your alley.
Covid is a huge part of Trey Lance's story. He had his breakout year in 2019 but wasn't draft eligible, then Covid cancelled all but one game of 2020, and by 2021 he probably felt restless and that he was maxxed out as a prospect. He wasn't necessarily wrong, either-going 3rd in the draft means he hit on his peak draft stock.
As a Niner fan, I thought drafting Trey Lance was the about the dumbest thing they could do, with him being virtually unknown...then I heard what we had to sacrifice to get him, and it was actually even dumber than I thought.
As a Cardinals fan I was stoked, especially since I thought he would flop and it would make the Niners non-competitive until they recovered the first round picks. They were smart to take an accurate qb in the draft and didn't have to give up anything for Purdy. Just waiting for them to run out of money now, that team is stacked.
The 2020 Covid year and the fact that NDSU essentially had its season cancelled hurt Trey Lance more than any other player in the country. He obviously needed another year in college to develop his quarterback skills. One year at North Dakota State just wasn’t enough experience. But hey, he got draft number three over all in 2021 and got paid.
Trey lance is the equivalent as james wiseman for the bay area team.... flashy names coming out. But barely any real games played in the college level. The they both suck. N comes in purdy and trayce jackson davis. 4 year players. Kno the game. IMO trey and wiseman did have the higher potential. Just shows that playtime is way more important in developing
Lance was barely out of High School. One year of college experience on an offense with a knockout Online… 🤷🏻♂️. Being tossed to the wolves wasn’t good for anyone,
Ik it sounds obvious saying it now in hindsight, but ive always thought this. Why the hell would you draft a 21 yr old who played against nobodies for 1 season and 1 season only over someone with a resume like Justin Fields. Whats unfortunate is Trey had/has the potential to be a phenomenal QB, but he needs YEARS behind a good Qb to get to that level. Shouldve gotten the Jordan Love treatment.
10:54 Yes, in light of how things turned out, Trey may be haunted about leaving college early. But I hope not…Here’s an alternative universe for him: another college season, more tape showing flaws, a lower spot in a later draft, and a current role as backup QB...So, Trey would be in the same spot-but without getting the $34 million (fully guaranteed) given to the No. 3 pick.
Exactly, with more tape it is possible he wouldn't have been taken first round. It's hard to say though as he had so few reps, he could have very well continued to show dominance in college.
@@funksonatra Has he shown a particular skill with working in broadcasting. He's doesn't have much experience to fall back on to make him interesting in a prime time broadcast booth.
@@Rhaspun oh ok so Joey Harrington had lots of experience huh? Man get the F out of here. Talking about he didn’t have any experience. Obviously you don’t even know what his intelligence is like. Don’t act like Tim Tebow was on the Chess club in high school…
Umm....what the actual hell are you talking about (0:25)?? League wide laughing stock? Bro, we were in the Super Bowl literally the year before Lance was drafted
If Purdy hadn’t materialized and this entire roster went without a QB to operate it despite spending multiple firsts on trading up it would’ve been a really bad look
I was never completely sold on lance. I didn’t like the pick we could have got him late. I felt like he didn’t have enough experience in college and needed to really grow. I did go and buy his jersey because I’m going to support my team
Lance going in the first round and Purdy being the last pick should be a huge lesson for the NFL on how they evaluate QBs. This doesn't mean every 7th round QB will turn in to Brock Purdy. It means the scouts need to look closer at how well a QB plays the position, not just size, speed, and arm strength. The Niners may have finally taken Purdy as the last pick. But all 32 teams whiffed when it came to evaluating his potential.
If the Niners team and coaching wasn't so solid, this would go down as a worse pick than Jamarcus Russell. I still think it is, but once again Niners found a way to win so they dodged the scrutiny
Both of those things are kind of true at the same time. I'd say the Trey Lance trade/pick, in a vacuum, was *worse* than Russell. But, the fact that Lynch and the rest of the Niners' front office have been able to put together arguably the most talented roster in the NFL *despite* effectively throwing three 1st-round picks into the fireplace highlights how good they've mostly been outside of this case.
The original idea was to keep Garrapolo while Lance learned on the side for at least 3 years and it would have given him time to learn just like what happened to Aron Rodgers….It was a big risk and injuries ruined it all…. But it also led is to finding Brock so as a niner fan I’m not complaining it was all just meant to be it seems
Pure luck. Shanahan cant figure out QB talent. JG was good, he thaught a dropping-elbow-forced-delivery-"QB" could run his offense too. Then karma hit him. Mr Arrogant had to play a RB under center in the most embarassing NFC championship game ever played. ... and then he went on to choke another SB away. SSDD.
@@FoxxyBrown1111 The NFL wanted Reid to get that Superbowl. On one play the same sideline judge missed two obvious penalties that would have wrapped up the game and nothing was called.
But then why trade three years of first round picks if he's not going to play? That doesn't make sense-my gripe with the whole situation was sitting him in the first place. The investment didn't make sense. Trey might've always been a bust but the team didn't know what they were doing and made the situation even worse.
@@CJStew06 cause they thought he could grow into the nfl and that he had all the physical attributes as well as the processing speed to grow into an amazing QB…in hindsight site its a bad investment now but just imagine if he was learning under a non injured gorapalo who could also still run… then it wouldnt have been so crazy.
Could’ve had Micah parsons. If that doesn’t make you feel bad enough as a niners fan, they drafted Kinlaw at #14 in the 2020 draft, Justin Jefferson went after him at #22 😂😂
Why would his coming out ever haunt him? He was the third overall pick. Had he gone back to college, he could only have hurt his draft stock. He's a lousy QB and was able to conceal that fact by being such a blank slate, with very little experience. And the experience he did have was against weak competition. No, he absolutely made the right decision by getting himself drafted 3rd overall.
You can’t say oh we got Brock so it’s okay Trey didn’t work out. No fuck that. Kyle got LUCKY and any other coach would have gotten fired for what he and john did.
GM John Lynch had done a great job for most parts in that position for the 49ers, regularly giving Shannahan a good team to work with. But the Trey Lance deal stood out as a big mistake. Shannahan and Lynch were so lucky Purdy came out of nowhere to save them. I felt bad for Lance but he just wasn't good. He was even getting smoked in preseason. I do possibly see a truly desperate team giving the chance to start if they can get him on the cheap. He's only 24 years old. He *might* get better with more years but right now, I don't see it anytime soon. I do see him starting somewhere with a team desperate enough and if they can get him cheaply enough. He can't rely on his legs though. Running QBs don't live that life long in the NFL. They end up paying the price in a bad way sooner rather than later.
Three 1st round draft picks 😳. If it wasn't for Purdy, Shanahan and Lynch would have likely been fired for missing so badly on Lance. Purdy saved their jobs.
I thought it was hilarious how the whole world tried to shit on the Niners for giving up Tre Lance for a half eaten bag of Lemon Lay's Chips! Look where we are now! The 49ers knew all along that this kid just wasn't going to turn out! Then Dallas fans tried to talk smack about how we screwed Tre Lance over and Lance would end up thriving with the Cowboys. Now look where we're at? Tre gonna be working at a local car dealership in another few years!
How BAD was the 49ers to trade picks for ...... 49ers are the bust not Trey. He was a unproven prospect, no one knew how he would pan out and you shouldn't have given up 3 first round picks for it!
The sad part is that Lance would have almost certainly still been on the board for the 49ers to take him with their #12 pick without having to give away their first round picks in '22 and '23, which they could have used to bolster their O line.
No other NFL team had Lance as 1st round projection being so green, and against 2nd level college games. Like playing in arena football. Teams had him as a 2nd rounder at most. This was a head scratcher that left me bald! 😅😢
The problem with the Trey lances of the world is that even if your draft pick was huge in college… you have to develop them in the NFL. I think the QB can and should be shared for this reason, lance could’ve been a backup for a year, operating as a relief pitcher
I remember saying he's gonna get hurt trying to run over defenders like a fullback. He was way too wreckless when he scrambled. This is the NFL, not a small college
The 9ers management is to blame, they propped up Trey as that guy, when they should have just drafted 3 players to bolster the team. It’s like sending a 17 kid to the infantry
This is low hanging fruit. Jimmy G was always an issue. Always. Whether it be he never threw the ball away, was always good for at least 1-2 INTs every game ... and not just INTs but back-breaking INTS or the fact he was never the same after his knee injury. Dude looked like he was running with steel plates on. Jimmy just didn't have "it". They believed all they needed was just a guy who could provide some kick to the offense. Naturally they sold themselves on Trey hoping to look smarter than everyone else believing he wasn't nearly as green as he really was/is.
@@daneberhardt8658 the front office screwed up when they overpaid Jimmy though. They are using Trey as a scapegoat and sweeping their mishaps under the rug.
That pick against the Texans was awful! He threw it into triple coverage, and it was badly under thrown. He's got good character, but he's over his head in the NFL.
Perhaps. But compare Lance to Purdy. When Lance got his shot, he didn't look ready. Purdy was ready the moment he got his shot. Even if you discount 2022 due to the rain in the Chicago game and Lance getting hurt in week 2. Lance didn't look ready when given a chance in 2021. By contrast, Purdy only had a handful of garbage time snaps before he beat Miami when Jimmy got hurt.
As a 49ers fan, when the team made the trade with Miami in March 2021, I raised my eyebrows, because it was a clear sign that Shanahan and Lynch found a guy they really, really liked, and they must've had to really beg Jed York to sign off on the trade. When the team made the pick, I knew it was an interesting one. Granted, he looked really good in preseason, but once he had to make spot starts as a rookie, I just knew he wasn't ready. He was wildly inefficient and inconsistent. If Trey had been so good after all, then he would've been QB1 as a rookie.
At some point of his career, he’ll need to change positions if he wants to get on the field. Tebow did it a bit late in his career. Lance should start learning to be a tight end. Guys like Julian Edelman, Antwan Randle El, Joshua Cribbs and Terrelle Pryor were all QB’s that switched and had some success. Taysom Hill is another but isn’t having much success because he started it when he 32 years old.
San Francisco had the chance to draft Micah Parsons instead, but they went in a different direction. Imagine how that might have changed their defense!
Everyone thought the same of Justin, Jordan, Lamar, Geno, Baker ... Um, do you see where I'm going with this? Dude has barely played but everyone's an expert.
REPS REPS REPS…. End of the day, guys with WAAAAY more college snaps (Mayfiled, Darnold, etc.) m even needed a TON of NFL reps to find their game. Not saying it was a guarantee. But the lack of reps in college, compounded with the lack of reps in NFL, doomed him forever. The one scenario where lack of reps can be negated (and even then it’s a long shot) is having a guy with the same OC/offense every season & off-season, whilst not getting reps. Think of Jordan Love.
Trey Lance wasn’t bad but after seeing Purdy play his first preseason game and showing he was able to mimic Jimmy G’s play style but do it better than Jimmy I prayed that Purdy would get his chance
As a Rams fan I hate the 49ers and was shocked they moved up to draft T. Lance. It’s a good thing Trey never lived up to the hype, but the 49ers benefited in the end by getting Purdy. The 49ers are lucky to have a pro bowl caliber quarterback and only having to pay him 7th round pick money.
Answer: He wasn't thaaaat bad. He was just put in without enough experience and got injured when the 49ers were fed up with injured qbs. I wouldn't be shocked if, in a couple years, he became a top 15-qb in the NFL.
I'd be salty as a member of the Bears. I wouldn't want my leader to be deemed soft. What i mean by that is Caleb Williams jumped into the stands when he lost and cried in his moms arms. On live tv. I never want to see my QB doing that. Also, he brags about painting his nails. Dude is soft as hell.
It sucks lance never got a fair shot tbh. Project qb drafted to a win now situation just doesn’t make sense. Has a hell of a lot of raw talent but no where near enough reps to hone it. Maybe things would have turned out differently had he got drafted to a regular number 3 pick situation or had he went back to college for a year or had covid not been a thing. As a niners fan ima still root for em hopefully he finds his footing somewhere and showcases why he was thought of as a franchise changing pick
Trey is good enough to be Dak's backup. At least we know hes better than Cooper Rush. Who knows, maybe its his destiny to be the next franchise QB for the cowgirls
Now I see that the Bears trade up for Mitch Trubisky was not the worst trade ever, as he played QB 4 seasons with them. Only time will tell whether the Panthers trade up for Bryce Young was worth it.
All you have to do is to watch Lance drop back for a pass. Say to yourself, _"One, two, three, and _*_THROW!"_* Except he doesn't throw. Now do the same with Brock Purdy. He throws the ball. Lance can't pull the trigger. That's the difference.
Lance would have made sense as a 4th or 5th rounder. No expectation to start anytime soon, gives him a shot to develop. If he flames out, it's no big deal. I think part of why SF was willing to reach so high was that Carson Wentz (also from North Dakota State) had had a very good season just before Lance was drafted-- it gave them hope that it wasn't too big of a jump.
I was so pissed when they traded all of those picks for a guy who was unproven as a starting QB. I can't help but to think about the guys we could have drafted instead of Lance. Just think about George Kittle and Kyle Pitts as our two TEs. Imagine Jamar Chase or Jaylen Waddle with Debo as our WRs. My personal favorite pick would have been OT-P.Sewel who would been our RT instead of Colt McKenis. Thank God for Brock Purdy.
If you look back at all the stud QBs in today's NFL and even the past, the overwhelming majority of them had loads of experience before coming to the league. They didn't get hurt, they played every game and they started for at least 2 years. That's why it doesn't shock me Purdy (started 4 years in college, didn't miss games and can run an offense in the pros) is at least a serviceable player and someone like Anthony Richardson (missed loads of starts over 2 years, and now has missed loads of starts in the pros. Needs reps badly, but can't get them due to injuries, which were prominent in college) is struggling right now. Bottom line, if they can't play a 12 game season in which most of the games are against teams like Morehouse State and be healthy, or at the very least start 2 years straight without injury, your chances in the pros are not good because you have to come into the league ready to go, especially now
Jimmy G was much better than Lance could ever be, all they had to do was draft some linemen protection for Jimmy (and keep that Mr Irrelevant draft Purdy) and they'd have another Superbowl or two by now. Seemed to me an insult to Jimmy by drafting Lance
Heres the thing with lance. Trey called his own offense in college threw zero ints in games that had seasons. Was measured around 6'5 242, ran a 4.49 and trey is very smart off the field. Hes a good dude. The plan was to sit him at least a year. Jimmy g got hurt trey came in. Trey had his right hand from inside the thumb to his middle finger crushed. Thumb was fractured midfle was fractured and his pointer finger was broken in several places. Off season happens, his hand doesn't heal right, he comes back does mediocre gets injured again purdy shows up. Trey isnt that old, if his hand is healed up and he gets enough real games 4-6 he will start kicking ass. He might retire if his hand is still screwed up still.
I'll always say it, 49ers should have traded for Kirk Cousins, not trading up for Lance. I remember there was talk about Darnold, that could've worked too, but Cousins on that 49ers team would practically guarantee a title. Gotta remember the 2 previous seasons. TB got Brady, won a title. Rams got Stafford, won a title. Everything was screaming to go get a veteran QB, & Cousins already knew Shanahan system.
Trey Lance is the actor they'd use for Patrick Mahomes in a low-budget movie about Josh Allen
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Niners drafting Lance was just like the Warriors drafting Wiseman.
Wiseman actually got a chance to prove he wasn't very good. Lance never got that chance.
@@bobbyhiggins4694 Because Lance sucked so bad, he had a whole training camp and pre-season to prove something after his injury. Best he could do was 3rd string then bitch to get traded. Dude could've been QB2 on the 49ers right now !! Instead he's in Dallas Cowboys basement ! 9ers would've resigned him as a backup and he would've improved without Darnold being there, pride was his enemy.
Lance didn't need the chance to prove it. Everyone but stupid Kyle already knew he wasn't the answer @@bobbyhiggins4694
Trey Lance was much worse because of all of the draft capital the Niners had to give up for him. The Warriors had the pick to get Wiseman without trading up. I agree that both were bad picks, but Lance was so much worse. You can make a case that it is a top 3-5 worst draft decision of all time in the NFL. I don't know the whole history of the NFL so I can't honestly make that case myself. But simply looking at all of the details of the trade to get the number 3 pick, the fact that he might have been available at the 12 pick or at least at a later pick than the 3 they used to get him. Maybe 8 or 9, I'd have to go back to see which teams were there and needed a QB. But Trey wasn't a highly graded QB in that draft that was supposedly loaded at the QB position.
So to sum up how awful the Lance trade was, they traded 2 future 1sts, a future 3rd, and swapped the 12 for the 3 pick. They didn't know which QB they would even get at the time of the trade!! Which is f***ing unbelievable. They picked a player who would have most likely been available later in the 1st round, more like a high mid 1st. They then proceeded to have no idea how to handle the QB room since they planned on keeping Jimmy G as the starter and have Trey learn behind him, which would prevent Lance from getting any true playing time which he was lacking in experience dating back to college where he only played something like 400 snaps in total due to injuries, COVID, etc. He played at a small school against lesser competition. I can go on, but yeah it was not a great trade lol
Well yeah it was the Covid year. Scouting and doing combines were limited or nonexistent which made drafting players a shot in the dark
I was definitely sold bought his jersey and all. We definitely dodged a bullet getting Purdy. Micah Parsons instead of Lance wouldve been insane.
Imagine Micah and Bosa?
Niners would have had Micah and kept two firsts and a third. That's potentially three starters on rookie contracts which would have built the team nicely.
Parsons and Warner? Yikes!
And that separates the causals to real fans , you niner fans are cringey
@@YoungMaster_626 that didn't make any sense
Trey should have stayed in school 1-2 more years just to get reps.
If he had done that, he would have been exposed as the mediocre QB he truly was. He stuck when the iron was hot like a lot of collegiate QB's do.
Yea no. He made his money and is now set up for the rest of his life. He wasn’t a nfl level qb and staying at college would’ve showed that more.
@@rr-ti2xp Totally agree. Too many collegiate players have a good season and try to cash in when they're really average to subpar. Can't blame them but NFL teams should be smarter than that.
@@josephpearlman4010lol bro he played in lesser d1 he probably would have still got drafted
@@lorddiethorn Not if he had played more seasons.
Trey playing FCS was a problem. He needed to transfer to a power conference and learn the game. Jumping to the NFL was a bridge too far.
I agree but the sucky thing is that if you're a good enough QB like maybe Joe Flacco, or Carson Wentz, the bridge shouldn't matter. In this case Trey Lance didnt have that dawg in him... :(
Joh Allen went to Wyoming
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So insane that they picked him.
I mean Wentz, Allen, Flacco, and many more good to elite quarterbacks in the NFL didn't play in a power conference.
I was one of the Niner fans who were saying "What the F are you doing?!" when they gave up so much for Lance. Epic fail.
You and me both!
@@bdot0276 Me three!
I was puzzled too. Out of all QB's in that draft, I didnt hear anyone talking about Trey Lance. I thought the 9ers were set on Mac Jones
@@toonces4xI wasn't sold on any qb, TLaw included, in the 2021 draft. I wanted an edge rusher, DT or OT.
I was one of the idiots saying omg we drafted Jesus! Turns out we didn't. Lol
To call Lance a radical OVER-REACH would be an understatement. He wasn't close to NFL ready and Shanahan must have felt like a moron after what they gave up to get him.
He had a good preseason with Dallas, though...but that's also not saying much.
Good pre-season with Dallas? He threw FIVE interceptions in one game, against 2nd, 3rd, 4th string players!
@@PhilAndersonOutsideand in the two games before that, I’d say at least 70-80% of his passes were completed bc he had acrobats as receivers. Behind, over, under, below…ugh was sad to watch.
You're right about everything except Lance having had a good preseason showing with Dallas 😂
You're right about everything except Lance having had a good preseason showing with Dallas
Agreed, but the pre season.
Lance still being on an NFL roster is a mystery of Peterman proportions. Those two none QBs must have dirt on owners, the only explanation they steal roster spots and money from real QBs.
Here's why it happened:
The 49ers believed that Lance had enough resident innate talent that all he needed to do was just make a play here or there while being surrounded by elite offensive weapons, playing in a QB-friendly scheme, and having an elite play caller at the helm. All Lance needed to be was _at minimum_ just good enough to do basic things that could be expected of a professional-grade QB. The belief was that through the season he'd grow and mature and eventually he'd be able to really assume the reigns the following season and go off into glory.
The reality: kid had the accuracy of Ray Charles. This is what they saw from the very beginning and knew it wasn't getting better. It also became evident that he wasn't an elusive runner. He lumbered. But lastly he just wasn't showing the expected gradual improvements that are justifiably expected of a player who supposedly had the talents and abilities he possessed. Growth should always be evident no matter what. Lance never grew.
Lucky for Lance he got paid. Got his bag. But will also go down as one of the NFL's biggest busts too.
@@daneberhardt8658 agreed and also the 49ers knew he would likely have 2021 to learn. Then 2022 came and he was still behind.
Lance is more of a playground quarterback
Lance just got injuredback to back years. 1st his hand amd then his ankle.
If it were true what you wrote, 49ers could have picked ANY QB in any round instead of wasting future drafts. There goes your theory ;-)
Actually 49ers believed they can spot QB talent (they cant, played silly games with JG, later got lucky with Purdy). And still karma hits Shanhan and Lynch each year in most embarassing ways. I chuckle every time 🙂
Yea they forced him to get that experience too fast, it’s like putting a 10 year old in a driver seat a going “here you go, you take you’re drivers test tomorrow, better learn.” Being a backup is the best thing that could happen to him
San Fran could have drafted Michah Parsons instead.
Why draft parsons if parsons hasn’t made the leap in to elite. Ya see the saints run down that throat
Pause but 14 sacks 13.5 sacks in 2 seasons is good @@SosAisMLife
@@SosAisMLife haha that was one game, Parsons and watt are the best LOLBs in the league
So many other choices...smh Oh well, next year, next year.
Micah*
Easily the very worst draft pick in 49ers history.
Giovanni Carmazzi is on line 2. Could have had Tom Brady
@@aeugenegray But they didnt give up the future drafts for Carmazzi.
In 49er history???? How about the worst trade in NFL History. What you guys gave up to draft him and to IMMEDIATELY let him go was fucking hilarious. This kid proved literally nothing prior to getting him drafted 😂😂
@@savage9436 Worst trades were OJ Simpson, Jim Plunkett or Charles Haley.
You are correct but Brock Purdy will cover it up.
After 49ers lost to The Rams a couple years ago in the NFC Conference game; many 49ers fans quickly took to twitter to spew vitriol against Jimmy Garoppolo. Professing that it was time to bring on Trey Lance. They had no idea what they were talking about.
Jimmy G has the worst Passer Rating in the 4th Qrt of playoff games since 1991. Jimmy G fans are still clueless.
He just got wrecked by Aaron Donald. No shame in that. Go Rams!
@@rikmuao4699 Cheery picking on a small sample size. Santa Clara fanbois are still clueless.
@@FoxxyBrown1111 Name calling is the first sign of the uneducated. 🤪
@@FoxxyBrown1111 Small sample size? 😆 It's Jimmy's 4th Qrt playoff stats? Nothing small about the 4th Qrt in the playoffs and Superbowl. Maybe you should try another sport. PING PONG might be up your alley.
Trey Lance should have been a covid transfer into a D1 program, gained experience and then enter the draft
Covid is a huge part of Trey Lance's story. He had his breakout year in 2019 but wasn't draft eligible, then Covid cancelled all but one game of 2020, and by 2021 he probably felt restless and that he was maxxed out as a prospect. He wasn't necessarily wrong, either-going 3rd in the draft means he hit on his peak draft stock.
As a Niner fan, I thought drafting Trey Lance was the about the dumbest thing they could do, with him being virtually unknown...then I heard what we had to sacrifice to get him, and it was actually even dumber than I thought.
As a Cardinals fan I was stoked, especially since I thought he would flop and it would make the Niners non-competitive until they recovered the first round picks. They were smart to take an accurate qb in the draft and didn't have to give up anything for Purdy. Just waiting for them to run out of money now, that team is stacked.
He was the type of guy you are happy to take in the 2nd or 3rd round but you only trade up for sure things
The 2020 Covid year and the fact that NDSU essentially had its season cancelled hurt Trey Lance more than any other player in the country. He obviously needed another year in college to develop his quarterback skills. One year at North Dakota State just wasn’t enough experience. But hey, he got draft number three over all in 2021 and got paid.
He is always sucked , to bad you causals can’t see that since day one 🤡
Trey lance is the equivalent as james wiseman for the bay area team.... flashy names coming out. But barely any real games played in the college level. The they both suck. N comes in purdy and trayce jackson davis. 4 year players. Kno the game. IMO trey and wiseman did have the higher potential. Just shows that playtime is way more important in developing
Lance was barely out of High School. One year of college experience on an offense with a knockout Online… 🤷🏻♂️.
Being tossed to the wolves wasn’t good for anyone,
Tells you lot about niner fans being casuals lol
Really great video! I thought I was watching some 400k views video. Keep up the good work
It is a sad story. 9ers thought they were getting Lamar Jackson style of QB. But he was too raw for the pros.
The mistake is wanting a Lamar Jackson style of QB in the first place.
@@renaldoawes2210 If you don't think Lamar is a good QB why does he beat the 9ers so often? LOL
Niners thought they would get CJ Stroud by drafting Lance
Almost 5 years later, he still is, but now he’s Dallas’s problem
@heuthao7027 nah, tgey got better. Kyle just don't like black QBs and sabotaged trey
Even with Prescott out for the season, the Cowboys are opting for Cooper Rush over Trey Lance. That has to be a gut punch.
Ik it sounds obvious saying it now in hindsight, but ive always thought this. Why the hell would you draft a 21 yr old who played against nobodies for 1 season and 1 season only over someone with a resume like Justin Fields. Whats unfortunate is Trey had/has the potential to be a phenomenal QB, but he needs YEARS behind a good Qb to get to that level. Shouldve gotten the Jordan Love treatment.
Trey just needs to play. Check the game logs pal
10:54 Yes, in light of how things turned out, Trey may be haunted about leaving college early. But I hope not…Here’s an alternative universe for him: another college season, more tape showing flaws, a lower spot in a later draft, and a current role as backup QB...So, Trey would be in the same spot-but without getting the $34 million (fully guaranteed) given to the No. 3 pick.
Exactly, with more tape it is possible he wouldn't have been taken first round. It's hard to say though as he had so few reps, he could have very well continued to show dominance in college.
Why did they even draft him at 3. From everything I had seen he seemed like a late round pick, not a first rounder
He’s a young multi millionaire doing what he loves at the end of the day. The lads doing alright in the grand scheme of things
Maybe if he's careful. Over 70%of retired NFL declare bankruptcy within 6 years of retiring. He isn't likely isn't going to get a broadcasting job.
@@Rhaspunwhy he couldn’t he get a broadcasting job?
@@funksonatra Has he shown a particular skill with working in broadcasting. He's doesn't have much experience to fall back on to make him interesting in a prime time broadcast booth.
@@Rhaspunyou act like every football show is prime time…
@@Rhaspun oh ok so Joey Harrington had lots of experience huh? Man get the F out of here. Talking about he didn’t have any experience. Obviously you don’t even know what his intelligence is like. Don’t act like Tim Tebow was on the Chess club in high school…
Umm....what the actual hell are you talking about (0:25)?? League wide laughing stock? Bro, we were in the Super Bowl literally the year before Lance was drafted
If Purdy hadn’t materialized and this entire roster went without a QB to operate it despite spending multiple firsts on trading up it would’ve been a really bad look
I was never completely sold on lance. I didn’t like the pick we could have got him late. I felt like he didn’t have enough experience in college and needed to really grow. I did go and buy his jersey because I’m going to support my team
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Lance going in the first round and Purdy being the last pick should be a huge lesson for the NFL on how they evaluate QBs.
This doesn't mean every 7th round QB will turn in to Brock Purdy. It means the scouts need to look closer at how well a QB plays the position, not just size, speed, and arm strength.
The Niners may have finally taken Purdy as the last pick. But all 32 teams whiffed when it came to evaluating his potential.
Great comment. Thank you for watching and taking the time to write your articulate take on the scouting process. I agree with you.
The last pick was the answer crazy
If the Niners team and coaching wasn't so solid, this would go down as a worse pick than Jamarcus Russell. I still think it is, but once again Niners found a way to win so they dodged the scrutiny
Both of those things are kind of true at the same time. I'd say the Trey Lance trade/pick, in a vacuum, was *worse* than Russell. But, the fact that Lynch and the rest of the Niners' front office have been able to put together arguably the most talented roster in the NFL *despite* effectively throwing three 1st-round picks into the fireplace highlights how good they've mostly been outside of this case.
The original idea was to keep Garrapolo while Lance learned on the side for at least 3 years and it would have given him time to learn just like what happened to Aron Rodgers….It was a big risk and injuries ruined it all…. But it also led is to finding Brock so as a niner fan I’m not complaining it was all just meant to be it seems
Pure luck. Shanahan cant figure out QB talent. JG was good, he thaught a dropping-elbow-forced-delivery-"QB" could run his offense too. Then karma hit him. Mr Arrogant had to play a RB under center in the most embarassing NFC championship game ever played.
... and then he went on to choke another SB away. SSDD.
@@FoxxyBrown1111 The NFL wanted Reid to get that Superbowl. On one play the same sideline judge missed two obvious penalties that would have wrapped up the game and nothing was called.
But then why trade three years of first round picks if he's not going to play? That doesn't make sense-my gripe with the whole situation was sitting him in the first place. The investment didn't make sense. Trey might've always been a bust but the team didn't know what they were doing and made the situation even worse.
@@CJStew06 cause they thought he could grow into the nfl and that he had all the physical attributes as well as the processing speed to grow into an amazing QB…in hindsight site its a bad investment now but just imagine if he was learning under a non injured gorapalo who could also still run… then it wouldnt have been so crazy.
No. They were trying to get rid of JG in a year
Dude had a lot of talent. Just wasn't ready for the bright lights.
I wish him all the luck in the world but my rational side of the brain says Trey Lance is the bust was a bust will always be a bust
Shanahan and Lunch should be giving Purdy thank you cards every day.
Next year he's going to get about $300m of them.
@@PhilAndersonOutsidebasically. He's going to top Prescotts deal.
Could’ve had Micah parsons. If that doesn’t make you feel bad enough as a niners fan, they drafted Kinlaw at #14 in the 2020 draft, Justin Jefferson went after him at #22 😂😂
Why would his coming out ever haunt him? He was the third overall pick. Had he gone back to college, he could only have hurt his draft stock. He's a lousy QB and was able to conceal that fact by being such a blank slate, with very little experience. And the experience he did have was against weak competition.
No, he absolutely made the right decision by getting himself drafted 3rd overall.
You can’t say oh we got Brock so it’s okay Trey didn’t work out. No fuck that. Kyle got LUCKY and any other coach would have gotten fired for what he and john did.
Amen. 1+
GM John Lynch had done a great job for most parts in that position for the 49ers, regularly giving Shannahan a good team to work with. But the Trey Lance deal stood out as a big mistake. Shannahan and Lynch were so lucky Purdy came out of nowhere to save them.
I felt bad for Lance but he just wasn't good. He was even getting smoked in preseason. I do possibly see a truly desperate team giving the chance to start if they can get him on the cheap.
He's only 24 years old. He *might* get better with more years but right now, I don't see it anytime soon. I do see him starting somewhere with a team desperate enough and if they can get him cheaply enough.
He can't rely on his legs though. Running QBs don't live that life long in the NFL. They end up paying the price in a bad way sooner rather than later.
His best bet is to go to a rebuilding team, but I really dont see him being a starting QB for a contending team.
This is on the 49 ers. They spent all that draft capital without seeing him play many games. Hello!!! Maybe Josh Dobbs is the QB Shanahan wanted???
Three 1st round draft picks 😳. If it wasn't for Purdy, Shanahan and Lynch would have likely been fired for missing so badly on Lance. Purdy saved their jobs.
Being white saved their jobs.
I thought it was hilarious how the whole world tried to shit on the Niners for giving up Tre Lance for a half eaten bag of Lemon Lay's Chips!
Look where we are now! The 49ers knew all along that this kid just wasn't going to turn out! Then Dallas fans tried to talk smack about how
we screwed Tre Lance over and Lance would end up thriving with the Cowboys. Now look where we're at? Tre gonna be working at a local
car dealership in another few years!
How BAD was the 49ers to trade picks for ...... 49ers are the bust not Trey. He was a unproven prospect, no one knew how he would pan out and you shouldn't have given up 3 first round picks for it!
The sad part is that Lance would have almost certainly still been on the board for the 49ers to take him with their #12 pick without having to give away their first round picks in '22 and '23, which they could have used to bolster their O line.
Sounds like the NDSU system speaks for itself
9:05 thank you for not writing this game off
Exactly. Fields played in the same game and showed he was more ready for the NFL.
No other NFL team had Lance as 1st round projection being so green, and against 2nd level college games. Like playing in arena football. Teams had him as a 2nd rounder at most. This was a head scratcher that left me bald! 😅😢
I had no idea who Lance was before the Niners drafted him
The niners got so lucky to land purdy 😂 as a Iowa state fan I was genuinely shocked he slide that far.
Remember when the cowboys tried to “pick his brain” for the game against the niners lmao
This owner of the Cowboys is behind it all... Must be some kind of Parkinson. No sane person would overpay two QBs at once. Cowboys are a joke.
Man the Trey Stan's was so sure he was the next mahomes it was so embarrassing
The problem with the Trey lances of the world is that even if your draft pick was huge in college… you have to develop them in the NFL. I think the QB can and should be shared for this reason, lance could’ve been a backup for a year, operating as a relief pitcher
I remember saying he's gonna get hurt trying to run over defenders like a fullback. He was way too wreckless when he scrambled. This is the NFL, not a small college
The 9ers management is to blame, they propped up Trey as that guy, when they should have just drafted 3 players to bolster the team. It’s like sending a 17 kid to the infantry
This is low hanging fruit. Jimmy G was always an issue. Always. Whether it be he never threw the ball away, was always good for at least 1-2 INTs every game ... and not just INTs but back-breaking INTS or the fact he was never the same after his knee injury. Dude looked like he was running with steel plates on. Jimmy just didn't have "it". They believed all they needed was just a guy who could provide some kick to the offense. Naturally they sold themselves on Trey hoping to look smarter than everyone else believing he wasn't nearly as green as he really was/is.
@@daneberhardt8658 the front office screwed up when they overpaid Jimmy though. They are using Trey as a scapegoat and sweeping their mishaps under the rug.
Lance was a 1st Rd bust, and still is a bust in Dallas
I don't understand people saying he's better than Bryce Young, Trey Lance had a Super Bowl-caliber roster while Bryce had a bottom-barrel roster.
Who cares they both CHEEEEEEKS …
I'd still rather go down in NFL history as Trey Lance than Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovitch, or JaMarcus Russell.
Kyle Williams taunts 49ers fans more with what could have been than anyone else.
Lol
Ah man serious ptsd. Every punt return I clench now
@MacDawgProductions yeah. See I was right.
Truth
@@charlescainv5722 yeah
That pick against the Texans was awful! He threw it into triple coverage, and it was badly under thrown. He's got good character, but he's over his head in the NFL.
That was the key word they kept Jimmy G and had Lance sit and not develop him correctly. 😤
Perhaps. But compare Lance to Purdy. When Lance got his shot, he didn't look ready. Purdy was ready the moment he got his shot.
Even if you discount 2022 due to the rain in the Chicago game and Lance getting hurt in week 2. Lance didn't look ready when given a chance in 2021. By contrast, Purdy only had a handful of garbage time snaps before he beat Miami when Jimmy got hurt.
Lance is great kid and awesome athlete,but he's NEVER gonna be an NFL QB.
As a 49ers fan, when the team made the trade with Miami in March 2021, I raised my eyebrows, because it was a clear sign that Shanahan and Lynch found a guy they really, really liked, and they must've had to really beg Jed York to sign off on the trade. When the team made the pick, I knew it was an interesting one. Granted, he looked really good in preseason, but once he had to make spot starts as a rookie, I just knew he wasn't ready. He was wildly inefficient and inconsistent. If Trey had been so good after all, then he would've been QB1 as a rookie.
Trey was so good that once noners drafted brock purdy trey became third best qb on that roster.
I don't think anything haunts backup NFL quarterbacks. That's like the dream job besides punter
What job can you be a millionaire and not work. Chase Daniel has made 40 million in his career for 5 starts. 😂 Awesome job.
At some point of his career, he’ll need to change positions if he wants to get on the field. Tebow did it a bit late in his career. Lance should start learning to be a tight end. Guys like Julian Edelman, Antwan Randle El, Joshua Cribbs and Terrelle Pryor were all QB’s that switched and had some success. Taysom Hill is another but isn’t having much success because he started it when he 32 years old.
Niners thought they traded up to grab baby Maholmes but all they got was his Maholmes lookalike hair lol
San Francisco had the chance to draft Micah Parsons instead, but they went in a different direction. Imagine how that might have changed their defense!
Everyone thought the same of Justin, Jordan, Lamar, Geno, Baker ... Um, do you see where I'm going with this? Dude has barely played but everyone's an expert.
Not surprised a black dude is upset about Trey being bad
You guys were the only ones rooting for him.
49ers need to protect their QB better.
REPS REPS REPS….
End of the day, guys with WAAAAY more college snaps (Mayfiled, Darnold, etc.) m even needed a TON of NFL reps to find their game.
Not saying it was a guarantee. But the lack of reps in college, compounded with the lack of reps in NFL, doomed him forever.
The one scenario where lack of reps can be negated (and even then it’s a long shot) is having a guy with the same OC/offense every season & off-season, whilst not getting reps.
Think of Jordan Love.
This is a solid point Nathan, but Trey Lance was distracted in strip clubs.
Trey Lance wasn’t bad but after seeing Purdy play his first preseason game and showing he was able to mimic Jimmy G’s play style but do it better than Jimmy I prayed that Purdy would get his chance
apparently the 9ers LIKE taking QBs that have NEVER PLAYED to entrust the organisationto them
As a Rams fan I hate the 49ers and was shocked they moved up to draft T. Lance.
It’s a good thing Trey never lived up to the hype, but the 49ers benefited in the end by getting Purdy. The 49ers are lucky to have a pro bowl caliber quarterback and only having to pay him 7th round pick money.
I can't wait for the How bad was Bronny James? video drop!
I remember when some NFL pundit said the best first-round QB in the 2021 draft class was "whichever one Kyle Shanahan drafts." Oops.
Answer: He wasn't thaaaat bad. He was just put in without enough experience and got injured when the 49ers were fed up with injured qbs. I wouldn't be shocked if, in a couple years, he became a top 15-qb in the NFL.
Caleb Williams is the next bust
I'd be salty as a member of the Bears. I wouldn't want my leader to be deemed soft. What i mean by that is Caleb Williams jumped into the stands when he lost and cried in his moms arms. On live tv. I never want to see my QB doing that. Also, he brags about painting his nails. Dude is soft as hell.
@@hrpuffinstuff So Cal will do that. Something in the air.
Williams can already move the ball with the bears unlike who Lance was never able to move the ball in all his 49ers years.
@@Erick-fx3eb he cant even make a touchdown lol
@@KING-MUFFASA he was only two games relax the guy isn't playing bad
It sucks lance never got a fair shot tbh. Project qb drafted to a win now situation just doesn’t make sense. Has a hell of a lot of raw talent but no where near enough reps to hone it. Maybe things would have turned out differently had he got drafted to a regular number 3 pick situation or had he went back to college for a year or had covid not been a thing. As a niners fan ima still root for em hopefully he finds his footing somewhere and showcases why he was thought of as a franchise changing pick
He looked like he might be good in 2021 but then it seems like he lost his confidence or just couldnt get the offense.
The pro game is so much faster than college. No everyone can make the transistion.
Injuries too
Trey is good enough to be Dak's backup. At least we know hes better than Cooper Rush. Who knows, maybe its his destiny to be the next franchise QB for the cowgirls
Now I see that the Bears trade up for Mitch Trubisky was not the worst trade ever, as he played QB 4 seasons with them. Only time will tell whether the Panthers trade up for Bryce Young was worth it.
Josh Rosen 2.0
Trey is a bust and didn't pan out.
All you have to do is to watch Lance drop back for a pass. Say to yourself, _"One, two, three, and _*_THROW!"_* Except he doesn't throw. Now do the same with Brock Purdy. He throws the ball. Lance can't pull the trigger. That's the difference.
Now 2-3 niners look bad without Mr Glass McCaffery
It amazes me how guys can go from being the best player in college to completely forgotten about in a few years
Lance would have made sense as a 4th or 5th rounder. No expectation to start anytime soon, gives him a shot to develop. If he flames out, it's no big deal. I think part of why SF was willing to reach so high was that Carson Wentz (also from North Dakota State) had had a very good season just before Lance was drafted-- it gave them hope that it wasn't too big of a jump.
Trey Lantz could still be ok. He just needs a chance to play.
I was so pissed when they traded all of those picks for a guy who was unproven as a starting QB. I can't help but to think about the guys we could have drafted instead of Lance. Just think about George Kittle and Kyle Pitts as our two TEs. Imagine Jamar Chase or Jaylen Waddle with Debo as our WRs. My personal favorite pick would have been OT-P.Sewel who would been our RT instead of Colt McKenis. Thank God for Brock Purdy.
I knew he wasn’t ready hoping but never really showed that he was not good we blew that draft pick so badly
After Carson Wentz, people should have learned that there is no QB material coming out of ND.
Especially after playing only 1 full season.
Yep
What people dont understand is college is college and nfl is nfl.
First round draft pick that is still 3rd string.
You mixed up a lot of clips of the Texans start and the Seatte relief appearance.
If you look back at all the stud QBs in today's NFL and even the past, the overwhelming majority of them had loads of experience before coming to the league. They didn't get hurt, they played every game and they started for at least 2 years.
That's why it doesn't shock me Purdy (started 4 years in college, didn't miss games and can run an offense in the pros) is at least a serviceable player and someone like Anthony Richardson (missed loads of starts over 2 years, and now has missed loads of starts in the pros. Needs reps badly, but can't get them due to injuries, which were prominent in college) is struggling right now.
Bottom line, if they can't play a 12 game season in which most of the games are against teams like Morehouse State and be healthy, or at the very least start 2 years straight without injury, your chances in the pros are not good because you have to come into the league ready to go, especially now
Jimmy G was much better than Lance could ever be, all they had to do was draft some linemen protection for Jimmy (and keep that Mr Irrelevant draft Purdy) and they'd have another Superbowl or two by now. Seemed to me an insult to Jimmy by drafting Lance
Only good thing about this video for niners fans is watching Trent Williams bench press dude on treys TD run 😅
Heres the thing with lance. Trey called his own offense in college threw zero ints in games that had seasons. Was measured around 6'5 242, ran a 4.49 and trey is very smart off the field. Hes a good dude. The plan was to sit him at least a year. Jimmy g got hurt trey came in. Trey had his right hand from inside the thumb to his middle finger crushed. Thumb was fractured midfle was fractured and his pointer finger was broken in several places. Off season happens, his hand doesn't heal right, he comes back does mediocre gets injured again purdy shows up.
Trey isnt that old, if his hand is healed up and he gets enough real games 4-6 he will start kicking ass. He might retire if his hand is still screwed up still.
Purdy is the biggest blessing. Niners didn’t get enough flack for this debacle of a pick
I'll always say it, 49ers should have traded for Kirk Cousins, not trading up for Lance. I remember there was talk about Darnold, that could've worked too, but Cousins on that 49ers team would practically guarantee a title. Gotta remember the 2 previous seasons. TB got Brady, won a title. Rams got Stafford, won a title. Everything was screaming to go get a veteran QB, & Cousins already knew Shanahan system.
Well said. Would’ve been special.
He needs to go play in the UFL or CFL to get some actual experience.
At least he's still on a roster. Mean he's still getting paid a crap ton of money on a yearly basis
Purdy saved the blunder of choosing Trey Lance as the No. 3 pick.
He sure did
As a Niners fan…. He was awwwwwwful. I’ll take Mr. irrelevant
Pretty sure its confirmed that he's a bust.