One thing nobody has mentioned is that Sanguinius is affected by his sire rule, so if he deep strikes and charges he is WS9. He is the only primarch with that in the game on the turn he charges.
I swear half the views on this video are me referencing the rules as I wait for my Liber to come. These are great videos, thanks for all the hard work!
I like how one of the Rites of War is basically the Blood Angels are taking losses, and taking losses. Then they just kinda snap, and suddenly the angelic warriors of the Emperor are no longer home, can the relentless murder machines take a message?
Really can't believe whomever sculpted Zephon completely ignored his extremely detailed description in the novels. He wore MK3, and his RIGHT leg was bionic, not the left. He was also blonde, and the studio painted him with black hair. COMPLETE failure.
Fun! So I had to come here to get the rules for Alpha Legion Headhunters, as the Sergeant can take an Inferno Pistol for 15pts and it's NOT listed anywhere in the Libre Hereticus!
When starting a Blood Angels Army, would you say it's fine to just take some of the Squads from the new starter box and build them as they are or should they be upgraded / should we wait for plastic kits for melee weapons / jump packs? I'm just at the point where I think about starting a HH army and I'm still unsure which Legion(s) to play. So I gather as much information as possible about the ones that are the most interesting to me (atm Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Blood Angels, Sons of Horus and Alpha Legion).
WIth this new book, BA got some hard nerfs. They are not even in the middle of powerlvl compared to other legions, and i dont think they were in last 1.0HH. I would suggest, avodi TS as well as they got nerfed super hard into the dirt. Sons of Horus are at nice place. Imperial Fist are strong, Death guard is insanly powerfull. But if you do start BA, you wanna have jump units. You can make some regular marines/veterans driving in a rhino, but i would not go as far as 4... Upgrade some of them into support unit with melta/plasma/flamer and give them rhino. Also convert 1-2 medics from box. Get jump packs and swords and convert these guys.
we're no longer top tier broken like in 1.0 but definitely really strong the +1 to wound is a lot better than +1 strength, we got good equipement with the assault cannons, a squad of 10 heavy support with them will shred infantry, we're extra violent on the charge of course and Sanguinius is probably one of the better primarch, with his trait and other bonuses he's fighting at WS 9 can go up to 11 attacks on the charge with the sword at Str 7 +1 to wound reroll or 7attacks str 10 with the spear, he also gives +1WS to every units from the deep strike or with a jump pack, so basically every marines goes from WS 4 to 5
I feel they got nerfed. Assault is not that good, they lost their ROW with DS on 1st turn. Sanguinus is avarage stats for exceptional fighter primarch. I dont think he can take ON most of the primarchs. Deepstrike is dangerous as every unit can buy item, that gives them 18'' reaction to DeepStrike and can fire at you when you land. Terminators are horrible, and only one of our units have 2w. Meanwhile most of the legions got better units, better equipment, better characters and better legion trait and on top of that better RoW.
@@krunoslav2658 Remember, deep strike causes pinning if you are close enough (which the dawnbreakers improve) and units cannot respond if they are pinned. Plus only one unit can react unless they have something that adds to it. Also, for Sanguinius, the sire rule also affects him. On the charge he is the only primarch with WS9 (assuming he comes in via deep strike). This means ANY other primarch hits him on a 5+. The Blade Encarmine is also loaded with special rules. When he charges he is hitting on a 3+/2+ with 8 or 10 attacks wounding on 2s/3s with shred. He just doesn't want to get bogged down. He isn't a beast against other primarchs, but he can go toe to toe with the best if you use him right.
Thought about that too, but that would give him rerollable invulnerable saves almost every turn and that's not a good idea. His weapons should be better tho, like a brutal 2 spear or something would make him pretty good.
@@_the_eversor_lad_ i think a lot of sanguinius’ design has been hampered by the fear that he’d be too good but i think that would be permissible and even lore accurate.
@@nicholasleon7819 I mean I don't even play Blood Angels (I play Custodes) but I still compared all the primarchs. And when you have someone like Ferrus walking around with brutal 3... well, some primarchs are really underwhelming lol. I just care about having at least somewhat of a balanced game and currently it is not. I am considering going back to first edition with a couple fellas.
Sanguinius will die against almost every primarch lol. If they have brutal, they are straight up death for him. If they have a 3++ they are death for him. If they have a lot of attacks, they are death for him. And most of the primarchs fall in one of these cathegories. The only ones he can kill are the bottom few like Alpharius and Lorgar. He isn't even good against terminators and has a good chance of dying to a dreadnought. So yeah, very poorly written like pretty much the entire 2.0.
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One thing nobody has mentioned is that Sanguinius is affected by his sire rule, so if he deep strikes and charges he is WS9. He is the only primarch with that in the game on the turn he charges.
I swear half the views on this video are me referencing the rules as I wait for my Liber to come. These are great videos, thanks for all the hard work!
Ahh so you can still take fist mounted assault Cannons on Dreadnoughts? Awesome.
These videos are brilliant by the way, thanks so much.
Definitely planning on using the beakies out of the new box to make the core of my BA army. I would love to see you do a BA Heresy army, Ash!!
I like how one of the Rites of War is basically the Blood Angels are taking losses, and taking losses. Then they just kinda snap, and suddenly the angelic warriors of the Emperor are no longer home, can the relentless murder machines take a message?
Really can't believe whomever sculpted Zephon completely ignored his extremely detailed description in the novels. He wore MK3, and his RIGHT leg was bionic, not the left. He was also blonde, and the studio painted him with black hair. COMPLETE failure.
I hate his bare head. He's not supposed to look like the undead.
Eh. You can make a kit bashed proper model to atone for the mistakes.
Clearly, that means the model is of another character, no matter what the box says.
Tbf, you can paint his hair blonde at least. I'd just kitbash him maybe, and use his model as a "generic" Blood Angels character model for my army
Which novel has the description? I’d like to read that book.
Zephon's bare head on the model looks like a vampire version of Wade from the warham community.
Zero coincidence there
Ps: I believe he should be blonde ?
It does not look that bad lol
@@highmarshalbalian680 Yes, it does.
Cant believe Raldoran still has no jump pack option...
He never had a jump pack though
Thanks so much for this. I've got to wait 2 weeks for my pre order so this should get me through until then.
Hope you enjoy it!
Fun!
So I had to come here to get the rules for Alpha Legion Headhunters, as the Sergeant can take an Inferno Pistol for 15pts and it's NOT listed anywhere in the Libre Hereticus!
Blood for the blood god! skulls for the golden throne!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD ANGEL! SKULKS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE!
Cheers for this mate!
For The Emperor! For Sanguinius!
When starting a Blood Angels Army, would you say it's fine to just take some of the Squads from the new starter box and build them as they are or should they be upgraded / should we wait for plastic kits for melee weapons / jump packs?
I'm just at the point where I think about starting a HH army and I'm still unsure which Legion(s) to play. So I gather as much information as possible about the ones that are the most interesting to me (atm Space Wolves, Thousand Sons, Blood Angels, Sons of Horus and Alpha Legion).
WIth this new book, BA got some hard nerfs. They are not even in the middle of powerlvl compared to other legions, and i dont think they were in last 1.0HH. I would suggest, avodi TS as well as they got nerfed super hard into the dirt. Sons of Horus are at nice place. Imperial Fist are strong, Death guard is insanly powerfull. But if you do start BA, you wanna have jump units. You can make some regular marines/veterans driving in a rhino, but i would not go as far as 4... Upgrade some of them into support unit with melta/plasma/flamer and give them rhino. Also convert 1-2 medics from box. Get jump packs and swords and convert these guys.
we're no longer top tier broken like in 1.0 but definitely really strong the +1 to wound is a lot better than +1 strength, we got good equipement with the assault cannons, a squad of 10 heavy support with them will shred infantry, we're extra violent on the charge of course and Sanguinius is probably one of the better primarch, with his trait and other bonuses he's fighting at WS 9 can go up to 11 attacks on the charge with the sword at Str 7 +1 to wound reroll or 7attacks str 10 with the spear, he also gives +1WS to every units from the deep strike or with a jump pack, so basically every marines goes from WS 4 to 5
On what scenario you think you will have 11attacks on sanguinius? Lol. And killing infantry? Sorry to say, but every one od good at it.
so my Day of Revelation is still usable !!
By the Blood Traitors will die in masses
Frenzied murder machine? Or Swedish murder machine?
Do we know if the ferrum (box) dreads are making a comeback for this edition?
So how do you feel blood angels measure up to the rest of the legions?
Extra good at stabbing
I feel they got nerfed. Assault is not that good, they lost their ROW with DS on 1st turn. Sanguinus is avarage stats for exceptional fighter primarch. I dont think he can take ON most of the primarchs. Deepstrike is dangerous as every unit can buy item, that gives them 18'' reaction to DeepStrike and can fire at you when you land. Terminators are horrible, and only one of our units have 2w. Meanwhile most of the legions got better units, better equipment, better characters and better legion trait and on top of that better RoW.
@@krunoslav2658 and if i saw correctly we lost Deathfire on our Perdition Blade aswell right?
@@nickoh2067 we got brutal (2) which is better... But blade is nerfed to ap3
@@krunoslav2658 Remember, deep strike causes pinning if you are close enough (which the dawnbreakers improve) and units cannot respond if they are pinned. Plus only one unit can react unless they have something that adds to it.
Also, for Sanguinius, the sire rule also affects him. On the charge he is the only primarch with WS9 (assuming he comes in via deep strike). This means ANY other primarch hits him on a 5+. The Blade Encarmine is also loaded with special rules. When he charges he is hitting on a 3+/2+ with 8 or 10 attacks wounding on 2s/3s with shred. He just doesn't want to get bogged down. He isn't a beast against other primarchs, but he can go toe to toe with the best if you use him right.
So are Baal predators an option? Or is that strictly 40K ??
if I remember correctly there just preds with the baal pred options
It's a 40k thing, but I think you can still upgrade predators to have the kheres assault Cannon still. Basically the same thing, just less fast
after reading echoes of eternity sanguinius definitely needs hit and run
Thought about that too, but that would give him rerollable invulnerable saves almost every turn and that's not a good idea. His weapons should be better tho, like a brutal 2 spear or something would make him pretty good.
@@_the_eversor_lad_ i think a lot of sanguinius’ design has been hampered by the fear that he’d be too good but i think that would be permissible and even lore accurate.
@@nicholasleon7819 I mean I don't even play Blood Angels (I play Custodes) but I still compared all the primarchs. And when you have someone like Ferrus walking around with brutal 3... well, some primarchs are really underwhelming lol. I just care about having at least somewhat of a balanced game and currently it is not. I am considering going back to first edition with a couple fellas.
Shit si no Aster Crone anymore?!?!
these are just the core rules. I’m sure each legion will get their own supplement with all the extended stuff.
Yeah that bonus is not a big bonus, compared to ultra marines, dark angels it sucks
Sanguinius will die against almost every primarch lol. If they have brutal, they are straight up death for him. If they have a 3++ they are death for him. If they have a lot of attacks, they are death for him. And most of the primarchs fall in one of these cathegories. The only ones he can kill are the bottom few like Alpharius and Lorgar. He isn't even good against terminators and has a good chance of dying to a dreadnought. So yeah, very poorly written like pretty much the entire 2.0.
You read so quickly and mumble your way through some of these bits. As a hearing impaired person it's difficult to follow. Frustrating.