Mets Rumors: Interested in Torkelson and Scherzer?
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025
- Should the New York Mets pursue Spencer Torkelson to fill their first base void?
This episode dives into the Mets' rumored interest in the former first overall pick and explores potential trade scenarios. Host Ryan Finkelstein breaks down Torkelson's struggles with the Detroit Tigers and analyzes his hitting profile, including his power potential and weaknesses against off-speed pitches.
The discussion shifts to Max Scherzer's potential return to the Mets, as the team was one of eight to scout the veteran pitcher recently.
Finkelstein examines how Scherzer might fit into the Mets' rotation plans and compares his potential impact to other options like Paul Blackburn and Griffin Canning.
The episode also touches on the Mets' signing of Adbert Alzolay to a two-year minor league deal, highlighting the potential long-term value of this move.
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Hey Ryan, big fan. I work Overnights and I seriously look forward to the new show drop each night. You help me get through the long 12 hour shifts. Keep up the great work 🤝
Thann you ❤Ryan ! Excellent show as always !
Agree with Ryan on his Torkelson assessment...
I hope you have a great weekend Ryan
Scherzer the new Jamie Moyer
PLEASE METS.!!!!...Don't bring back Broken Max.!!!!!
For real. Like what is that all about? That ship done sailed...
I thought we shut down the retirement home 😅
Just to consider him is insane. Kind of a red flag against Mets management.
No, don't bring him back. He is not getting any younger.
Just because he was hurt last season? From 2021-23 he was 39-15 with a 2.83 ERA while averaging 27 starts and 160 innings per season. Including going 20-9 with a 3.02 ERA in 42 starts and 253 innings in his time with the Mets.
I needed a good laugh. Thanks bro!! Max and tork… 😂😂😂
Cohen & the whole Mets team at the Knicks game tonight. Must have gotten a suite. Knicks PA played OMG & showed them.
Yeah, It's not bad idea to get Torkelson, but Hey Mets, Don't give up any top prospects for that deal please.
I said it last week. The fact that McNeil can play anywhere, including 3B, makes him un-tradeable even though everyone wants to give him away.
3 out of his last 4 season he can't hit and he don't stand out on d anywhere slap hitter with no speed he trash at this point
They should give McNeil a DFA and cut their losses. McNeil is taking up valuable space on this roster.
Wait. I thought versatility makes players more valuable.
Hey Ryan, huge fan of the show, been subbed on an old account since 22. Why aren't the mets targeting flaherty but attending scherzer? Also would like tork, as he needs to get out of Detroit. Maybe a baty for tork would be a good change of scenery for both first round picks. Idk if he was non tendered or not but still
Because Flaherty would require a much bigger investment, while being a huge risk. That’s why his market has been so limited. He’s good when his fastball is sitting 94, he’s in good shape, but when he’s throwing 92, it’s often trouble. There’s risk with Scherzer, but he doesn’t require a multi-year deal. A reunion with Max actually makes a ton of sense for the Mets.
Nvm about baty I was blindly going along
@@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar is Flaherty a much bigger investment? At least years wise on the contract? He's still on the market. I think he's looking at 1 year deals at this point, and the Mets can easily take that type of a risk.
@ If Flaherty is willing to take a 1-year deal, then you’re absolutely right, but the reporting all along has been that he wants a multi-year deal. Of course, that’s why he hasn’t had much of a market, so at some point, he might have to pivot. But I don’t think he would pivot to a one-year deal; I think it would be more like what Jordan Montgomery or even Cody Bellinger got, where it’s 2-3 years at a fairly high AAV, with opt-outs.
@HomelessMosquito Baty does need a change of scenery though, you’re right about that. I wouldn’t trade him for Torkelson, who was always overrated IMO, doesn’t have positional flexibility, etc., but I do think Baty needs a team with better hitting development. For all the progress the Mets have made on the pitching dev side, they still lag on the hitting dev side, and according to analysts I generally trust (like Jarrett Seidler of Baseball Prospectus), Eric Chavez is not a particularly good hitting coach.
Great show as always… i just wish the Mets would sign Pete already…
I can’t believe ridiculous Alonso nonsense !! Mets should just sign him Ryan this is insane it is almost February!!
He’s priced himself out. The Mets stand on Pete is actually great for baseball. This way Scott Boras doesn’t take advantage and over value his players. He’s got two unsigned notable players in Bergman and Alonso both for the same reason. They both received terrible advice and The Astros moved on quickly! The Mets should’ve moved on filling that 1st place role a while ago
@ we still need Pete regardless !
There’s no bidding on Pete Alonso. If Pete’s team gets an offer at market value but doesn’t want to accept it so they can explore other options than that’s on Pete and his team.
We haven’t heard of any other team making a compelling offer so what’s the point in bidding against yourself when you know Pete doesn’t have any other offer out there.
It’s like buying an old car. KBB says your 130k mile car is worth $3000 so I’ll offer you close to that number. But you the owner might want $12,000 and the cheapest you’ll go is $10,500. If no one else is putting up better offers than me, then enjoy depreciating your car.
Why don’t you explain how the Mets can sign him? If he says no to what they offer him, what should they do? Just keep going higher and higher and higher until he says yes?
@@TheKilrmy I guess he/she wants to pay the chump price. This is how negotiations go. Sometimes you end up talking to a wall because they won’t budge. You just walk away and explore other options.
I like taking a flyer on Torkelson. I can’t see him costing all that much and I think it’s possible that a change of scenery helps him figure it out. His 2023 season wasn’t bad and he’s only 25 right now.
That’s why there will be no trade, Detroit has no reason to give him away, as he has an option left, so he can be sent to the minors. They are mad at him for not making the adjustments they recommended, but they do know he could still work out if he ever makes those adjustments. So he is not going to be traded for the Mets #20 prospect as most Mets fans on here are suggesting will happen.
Ryan I’m nervous It’s only a matter of time before Stearns gets too comfortable with these high upside projects…and they don’t pan out. Nervous we got lucky last year with our pitching and this year we’ll win 75 games like 2023…😱😱
Don’t trade Sprote
Mets are interested in many players who sign with someone else. Seems that after the Soto/Minea signings there is no real appetite to spend or we would have Tanner Scott rather than Minter. Still don’t understand why they don’t offer 75 for 3 years and make it a final offer. That’s a slight over pay for a homegrown favorite and if he turns it down you can immediately pivot to Plan B which should have been Tanner Scott. Don’t understand why they seem to be lowballing players after an unexpected playoff run. The 765 million dollar Soto deal seems to curbed their enthusiasm for payroll increase but with Pete( or similar production)) the team is moderately better than last year. Forget the Dodgers, we still have the Phillies and Braves in front of us. Sorry we didn’t offer Christian Walker 65 for 3 years, his first base defense offsets the power of Pete a great deal
Questions about the GM in charge of the Mets. What’s he doing? Cause I don’t understand.
If tigers are willing to add a reliever along with torkelson i would do it
MHi Ryan, I think torkelson might be a good move for the Mets because the Mets have a lot of infielders they can afford to give away a Brett Baty or Mauricio and take a chance with torkelson Mets infielders are not playing every day and there's only so many spots they can you know become expendable at some point to get something in return...
Torkelson might be good for the Mets
Bad Glove = pass
Max should pay the Mets to be apart of the team if they even consider him!
Why not sign Drury , can play 1b/3b/ corner OF. Had decent season last year plus was well liked here in NY
Oh yea that’s who we need batting behind Soto
I think it’s all speculation about all this stuff. Pete will return. Scherzer is nothing but an injury risk. Mets are doing Mets things and saying they are going all in but not actually doing it. After Soto haven’t done shit
Scherzer nothing but an injury risk? Just because he was hurt last season? From 2021-23 he was 39-15 with a 2.83 ERA while averaging 27 starts and 160 innings per season. Including going 20-9 with a 3.02 ERA in 42 starts and 253 innings in his time with the Mets. And the 10 years prior to 2020, he averaged 30 starts per season.
Going to be painful to watch Pete rake for another team, and watch Soto get pitched around to get to Baty
I would have thought the Mets would have done a hell of a lot more, to bolster the lineup around their huge investment in Soto. They may be able to compete in their division, but as far as the dodgers,..........ouch. Not even close.
A one-year deal to bring Max back makes a ton of sense. Torkelson, no thanks. The Mets don’t need projects on the offensive side, as they have subpar hitting dev, and a subpar hitting coach in Eric Chavez (according to Baseball Prospectus’s Jeffrey Paternostro and Jarrett Seidler, J.D. Martinez really was the Mets’ de facto hitting coach in 2024). They ARE equipped to take on pitching projects, however, and they’ve certainly done that-perhaps too much.
I'll tell you why I'd be on board with bringing Max back. Number one, the Mets have enough depth that they wouldn't have to depend on him - whatever he can give us would be gravy - likely, quality gravy. The other reason is Max Scherzer is a winner - we all saw the influence he had on the clubhouse, and the rest of the pitching staff - the team won 100 games in his only full season as a Met. Just his presence on the team would have a huge impact.
He very well could be better than all the reclamation pitcher they already brought in and that is why you bring him in. Met have signed a bunch of scrubs hoping to make them better if Stearns pull it off again with these bums he is a genius
@@evilzilla4053Why don't I have faith in this? Lol
Parada for Torkelson
Just to talk about the idea is insane..it seems that nothing to talk about
Max should convert to a reliever and extend his career.
I'll take him in the pen
Don't want him anywhere near my rotation
We are a contending team .. we don’t take flyers on key positions or move guys around
We ain’t contending this year have you seen our pitching staff.
I'm convinced that Ryan wouldn't trade Bret Baty for nobody and i mean nobody😂😂
They can have Baty but they must keep Torkelson too.
@LI2Chesapeake 😂😂 facts
I’d trade Baty for good baseball players. If they could use him to get a back-end reliever, or a quality starter I’d be all in.
I’m just not dealing him for another project.
@@LockedOnMets I trade Baty for a bag of potatoes chips. Baty another overrated Mets prospect that is not good
No thanks. Next
I hope we pass on both of them
If the Mets are seriously interested in a guy that they traded away two years ago who didn't even play a full season with the team he was traded to because he was injured... Then they deserve to never win a world series in the next 15 years because they already made the mistake of overpaying a overrated player. Like they always do.
I'm not going waste any comments on Max the end
Forget Scherzer.... If you bring him back you as well bring back Cespedes!! His arm is old and tired.
So he can’t hit off speed, reminds me of Alonso 2 strikes slider down and away and strike 3!! But hey he is younger lol
I’d rather have Vogelbach
I truly hope neither one of these two are even being remotely considered. WE NEED 1 MORE BIG BAT IN THIS LINEUP!!
In 2023, Torkelson hit 34 2B, 31 HR and had 94 RBI. He is still just 25. Last season, 30 year old Alonso hit 31 2B, 34 HR and had 88 RBI.
And why not try Scherzer? Just because he was hurt last season? From 2021-23 he was 39-15 with a 2.83 ERA while averaging 27 starts and 160 innings per season. Including going 20-9 with a 3.02 ERA in 42 starts and 253 innings in his time with the Mets.
Thanks for spitting out the same exact things Ryan said. He's had 2 above average half seasons & 6 terrible out of the past 8 half seasons of service. So pump the brakes on him being a comp to Pete!!
@charliec775 English? He's only played during 3 seasons. And, at the end of his age 24 season, he has 49 HR and 157 RBI for his career. Pete had 53/120 for his career after his age 24 season.
3 full majors & 1 minors total 8 just stop with the nonsense good luck remembering this dudes name in 3 years
Wtf is your English reference nerd
Give Soto all the money,and fighting over a couple of million dollars over Pete...is i'm missing something here? Please Cohen step in because Stearns trying to prove a point.
Come on Mets you just gave Soto 3 bags of money you need to invest in a hitter behind him to maximize your investment. Torkelson is not the answer .
Scherzer…Heellllllll NoOOO
Unless he wants to pitch for free because he stole money when he left.
Hell no to both!
Trade Mcneil and some minor leaguer for Spencer
Too much percentiles here! 😒
David Stearns is egotistical and cheap. That might work In Milwaukee but not NYC. He’s playing chicken with Pete & has let potential good pickups such as Santander& Profar go elsewhere. He is so hung up on finding reclamation projects it makes me sick. It makes me wonder why Juan Soto agreed to come to Queens. The best move he has made lately is letting that tremendous talent DJ Stewart escape to the putrid Pirates.
Come back Mad Mx
Sign scherzer
I don't have a good feeling about 2025.
Grab your balls and have a little faith in Stearns and the numerous high level prospects we have like Mauricio, Baty (still young), Acuna, Sproat, Drew Gilbert, and Ryan Clifford.
Scherzer has to be a joke. Right. He is washed up and a clown. Unless he wants to pitch batting practice
I rather stick Baty out there
Braves are the enemy
Mets are a joke.
Do the trade - Baty is not good and never has been. Worst batter in MLB for a guy who can hit 25 bombs a year and play 1B which the Mets don’t have anyone for. Vientos could struggle at 1B
I would rather have McNeil at first or Winker hell no to Baty get him out of here wouldn’t even make a good bat boy
Baty needs to go he is out of chances and sucks . And hell no to torkelson stearns is a joke . Genius my ass our team is terrible
I think it’s all speculation about all this stuff. Pete will return. Scherzer is nothing but an injury risk. Mets are doing Mets things and saying they are going all in but not actually doing it. After Soto haven’t done shit