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Elephant in the Room Pt.6: Mingling Babylon Wine with Remnant Prophecy
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- In this 6th part of TEITR , we will be revealing how prophetic understandings birthed in conservative Apostate Protestantism (aka conspiracy theories) have made their way to become the dominant theme within conservative Adventist circles.
I have been looking through some of EGW's devotional books this morning and I found this:
"'Behold, the kingdom of God is within you.' Luke 17:21
The government under which Jesus lived was corrupt and oppressive; on every hand were crying abuses--extortion, intolerances, and grinding cruelty. Yet the Savior attempted no civil reforms. He attacked no national abuses, nor condemned the national enemies. He did not interfere with the authority or administration of those in power. He who was our example kept aloof from earthly governments. Not because He was indifferent to the woes of men, but because the remedy did not lie in merely human and external measures. To be efficient, the cure must reach men individually, and must regenerate the heart. The kingdom of God begins at the heart....through the inward working of His Spirit, the fellowship of the soul with Him who is it's life." God's Amazing Gracy, Jan 8
I’m glad you are pointing these things out, I accept what you say. It seems to me that one of the reasons many SDA preachers stick to the topic of the Papacy is because it is easy. The prophecies in this regard are well gone over and rehearsed. Moving on from that is more difficult. I trust that you are bring to the forefront the emphasis that should be there; we are open to being distracted/deceived and taking our eye of the ball, so to speak. This message is timely.
Very interesting observation.
Don’t we stick to the papacy because it is the mother of harlots? The harlots being apostate protestantism/ false religion. Together, they are a complete package of Babylon.
Don’t worry about the cat, I love cats. I’m stunned by your lecture. The world, even the SDA’s are full of this. I’m not sure where to go from here?
thank you so much Pastor and Atonte, for not being silent on this issue. thank you for allowing the Holy Spirit to use you to reach us. it would be so much easier to just speak on other things under the negative words and attacks. we know there is and will be a shaking, and many will fall away from the truth. but many more will be convicted by the Holy Spirit and will accept the truth. i am just watching this series for the first time. you have given me new knowledge and insight on these subjects. may the Lord continue to bless you and your family and your work.
Thank you pastor Ivor and wife, we are learning much from your series
Amen ! Amen ! Be blessed Pastor and Atonte. All glory to our God !🙏
Totally understand! Excited excited to see and hear you so clearly going over these truths!!
An Israelite indeed in whom there is no guile. You are a great man Ivor Myers, and I'm honored to call you my Brother, and my friend. To God be the glory. Now let's go get our people out of Babylon.
This series is SO important. I really hope this is widely shared. My relationship with many dear friends have changed as a result of their consumption of Babylon's wine and remixing of prophecies. Thanks pastor.
Thank you for standing and speaking the truth that we need! ❤️🙏🏼 God Bless you both always!
Dude! Pastor Meyers has been doing some curls at the gym. Nice guns Pastor! And thanks for the research!
I noticed that too😅
This was so interesting! Thankyou for clarifying the toes!!😄 Loved those SoP statements-so clear!
Pastor Ivor, if you want to stand in TRUTH, please let me know.
I'll start with the definition of truth, then if we agree on this we proceed forward.
Much love and blessings.
All glory to Lord God Almighty and Jesus Christ my savior, blessed be his NAME forever and ever
Powerful!!!! Power of the Lamb!! Love it!!
Thank you, Pastor Ivor and Atonte. I can't remember the last time I actually heard a sermon/presentation on Satan's impersonation of Jesus' coming and the apostate church, and the daughters doing the work of the mother, etc.
Two camps: One has everything they need and nothing they want. One has everything they want and nothing they need.
12 "DO NIT SAY, 'A CONSPURACY,' Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.
13 The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow; Let Him be your fear, And let Him be your dread.
14 He will be as a sanctuary, But a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense To both the houses of Israel, As a trap and a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem....
20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." -- ISAIAH 8:12-14, 20 (nkjv)
1. Amen.
3. Amen.
5. Amen.
Amen
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Yes some are talking about the daughters. No one listens.
Pastor Meyers. I listen to this podcast on RUclips called: 2 Strong. Two men exposing as they call "The do dirtys" of this world. And it's not gossip or done for just entertaining reasons. Their Bible believing men. They also exposed the Pope. It would be awesome if they heard the Three Angels message. Matter a fact you and your wife will probably like listening to them because they are funny as well. Anyways, hope you two have a blessed week.
i have listened to these guys, they are funny… I think it illustrates that God places truth in all his people and therefore it exists in all churches/denominations. It is not biblical to think that only Adventist will make it into the kingdom of heaven or that every Adventist will automatically get into heaven.
@@aerialmistress3623 no, no, and no there will not be just Adventist n heaven. And those old school Adventist that spread that lie. Should be ashamed of themselves. Bible believing Christians that keep God's commandments and who love their neighbor gone be n the kingdom
sorry typo
@@aerialmistress3623 I was agreeing with you. Lol
Plus, we get bored with the truth… And are always looking for “sensationalism”
I didn’t realize how short our time really is until hearing this series. How deceived I have been. Please pray for my girlfriend and I, that we may learn more Bible truths that we may share it with those around us. I feel like I’m actually seeing people for the first time. I see them no longer as wicked but as men that are deceived by Satan, just like I was. I want to share this with everyone but I don’t know how. Do I just make a RUclips myself?
Amen 🙏 yess not evil... just deceived by The Deceiver.
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I really enjoyed this series thanks for sharing. An interesting idea popped into my head while I was watching so take it with a grain of salt. What better time for Satan to come out of hiding and impersonate Christ than once nuclear bombs start getting shot off. If he and his demonic forces disguised as angels of light defused them in front of the world, it would be a miracle and they would seem like superheroes. You know how Hollywood likes their superhero movies. I don't know how exactly satan would come on the scene but it was just an interesting thought. May just be a wild and crazy conspiracy theory but Hollywood is doing a great job pushing this type of agenda to prepare the people something like it, it seems. I don't no if there's any biblical evidence from the Bible or the spirit of prophecy on how Satan will come but we know he will at some point. Thanks for this series I'm enjoying it God bless
I personally think Satan will come after ww3
You are right about some people using every situation to say Sunday law, I don't pay them any mind buzz that will not save anyone. We are told in the sop that we are not to preach about the Sunday law every day, that's not our work, it's to preach and live Jesus.
Friends, it's simple if you want to know how near we are to the end look at what the apostate protestant is doing that's the indication, and the fact that we are seeing apostate wanting to take over the govt it means we are in the end of time.
Pastor, I would like you to address the quote from Ellen White that says Satan appears after the close of probation as an answer to the prayers of the saints because of the death decree.
The truth is, she does make it seems it's before Satan appears but she also has a quote that is clearly after. plz look at both sides of the issue not just one.
As I pondered the Adventist Church and their teachings, I found it interesting that they believe that in less than 200 years they teach Christ wholesale gave his body, the Church over to SATAN. And, the end result of Adventist teaching is that they believe
1. The prophet Daniel prophesied Christ would build a great false Church.
2. That Christ and *the Apostles founded the great false church*
3. Christ would give his body, the Church over to Satan in less than 2 centuries. Which is to say that Christ hated his own flesh.
4. *Ellen G. White and the Adventist Church says the Apostle Paul Himself taught that the Apostolic Church was already being over taken by Satan in less than 25 years after Christ's ressurection.*
5. And, the Apostles all worked together to teach the entire world to become members of the Great Harlot. *And, that even in 90AD the Apostle John was commanding and begging people to leave the very Church the Apostle John and all the other Apostles belonged*
6. Ellen G. White and the Adventists teach that the Church built on Ellen G. White would be "true Christians" and "The Saints" While the one Christ and the Apostles built would become Satan's Church.
7. This we know, Christ was not Adventist, His Apostles were not Adventist's, and the Apostolic Churches were not Adventist's either. Moreover, neither did Christ, the Apostles or the Prophets teach certain days were Pagan.
*You can find proof of everyone of these things in the 3rd chapter of the book "Great Controversy."* No, we have more than a disagreement Adventism.
@@chucksmith4624The wine of Babylon leads to conclusions like this one.
Hi Ivor - I’m studying out what you have presented, which was awesome by the way. 😊 I’m particularly interested in the quote you gave from the book SpM 1.4. What book is that please? Is that EGW? This is the quote that essentially says that Papal Rome had her day - it’s her daughters that will move forward now with the same spirit.
Spalding and Magan Collection. Yes, its EGW.
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Ivor can you please explain this quote?
I think it contradicts what you said near the end of your talk. EGW states Secret Societies work with unrighteous deception working to bringing about Satan coming of Christ and the time trouble such as never was!
Satan coming as Christ, and working with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in those who are binding themselves together in secret societies. Those who are yielding to the passion for confederation are working out the plans of the enemy. The cause will be followed by the effect.-Testimonies for the Church 8:27, 28. . ChS 50.1
@@powerofthelambEstou assistindo em abril de 24, e anotando tudo. Sou do Brasil
@@powerofthelambNão entendo pq a igreja adventista sempre enfatizou o papado na profecia e ensina q um papa será o anticristo, infelizmente isso vai confundir milhares de Adventistas quando o diabo aparecer como Cristo.
@@powerofthelambE agora que o projeto 2025 já foi exposto e o nacionalismo cristão está se levantando por que a igreja continua em silêncio? Nem o presidente da igreja está falando sobre isso, o que está acontecendo com a igreja?
Is the use of the 3 mens Babylon names instead of their Hebrew names symbolic of the fact that we know that most of God's people are in the fallen churches?
Where did the giants come from the nephillam? In job it seems to be angels sons of God seemed to be angels producing nephillam causing a bloodline of families thinking there above us normal ppl?
@Power of the Lamb Can you tell me where that quote is found that says, "the mother has had her day, but the daughters.."??
That quote is A True Revelation
I saw that the two-horned beast 9 had a dragon mouth, and that his power was in his head, and that the decree would go out of his mouth. Then I saw the mother of harlots, that the mother was not the daughters, but separate and distinct from them. 10 She has had her day, and it is past, and her daughters, Protestant sects, were next to come on the stage and act out the same mind that the mother had when she persecuted the saints. I saw that as the mother has been declining in power the daughters have been growing, and soon they will exercise the power once manifested by the mother. . 1EGWLM 244.1
That's a really big cat.
1. I have heard that many times, but I know that it is not true.
According to Revelation 13, some receive the mark in their 🙌 not head so it cannot be all are converted but some just go along because of economics. what I believe some miss is that, while the papacy is the mother whose policies the world will accept, it's through her daughters she will accomplish such power. The story of John the Baptist makes it clear.
Pastor Myers what I disagree with, for you to say these ecumenical and climate issues are not relevant, is a mistake, the devil is the one behind them. He is a master at what he does and everything is playing it's part for the great deception.
For example digital currency, nothing is wrong with that in and of itself but it will be used to prevent buying and selling.
ALL will profess the Christian faith after Satan appears as Christ. Profession does not equal conversion. The world is full of that right now. Receiving the mark of the beast on the hand goes to those that profess but go along with the laws of the world. The mark of the beast on the forehead goes to those that really believe Sunday is a holy day set apart by Jesus Christ.
Rick 🙏🏻🙏🏻
But if Satan comes and all believe it means no one will get it in their hands all would have been convicted and get it in the head. but what I would like Pastor to address or anyone on when satan appears is the quote that Ellen white has that says he appears after probation in response to the prayer of the saints. Why not bring this quote in the discussion?
One effort more, and then Satan's last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ, and make them think their prayers are answered.- LDE 165.1
One effort more, and then Satan's last device is employed. He hears the unceasing cry for Christ to come, for Christ to deliver them. This last strategy is to personate Christ, and make them think their prayers are answered.- LDE 165.1
They did this same remix with who are the real offspring of the children of Israel today. Sister White really knew who the children of Israel are, because she alluded to them many times in her writings. She used terms such as the downtrodden Negro race, A Race of slave, the color people. Understand, in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37 verses 1 to 14 it speak of the valley of the dry bones. There's something that will cause these bones to rattle etc. It is the message of the three angels messages that gonna cause them to come alive. Now wonder Sister White made this statement in her writings:
The powers of hell is working with all their ingenuity to prevent the proclamation of the last message of mercy among the colored people.
(9T pg 208.1) In her book the Southern Work she actually says God's people referring to the Negro slave. See pg 95 in the Southern Work.
They, apostate protestantism.
COP Means: The Coming Of Persecution
I just can't seem to correlate what Pastor is saying about the daughter's with what the Bible says about all the world wondering after the beast. Help please?
the beast is the power or the man behind the curtain. the beast/curtain uses the daughters to spread the message as though the message is new, but the message is coming from the beast and the dragon, which has that same agenda and the same song. the beast equals political power, the women riding the beast is church power. originally that women is the catholic church, but in modern era the women uses her daughter ( like Herod was seduced by the daughter and then cut off the head of John the Baptist. We know that it was the mother who wanted this to happen and used her daughter as a tool.) The daughters AKA protestantism are the tool to bring in false thinking, while seeming appearing to be separate from the women who is the catholic church. Does that help?
Pastor, you and Walter V. just need to sit down and have a clear conversation about this, for the good of the body. These indirect conversations are tiring.
The air needs to be cleared out and our teachings cleaned up.
He is picking and choosing quotes....
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