I Made a Big Mistake - LG 32" 4K 240Hz OLED 32GS95UE Review
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- I Made a Big Mistake - LG 32" 4K 240Hz OLED 32GS95UE Review
LG recently released their 32GS95UE-B gaming monitor which can push up to 240Hz at 4K and 480Hz at 1080p. No other monitor on the market is capable of such framerates even at 1080p, and combined with OLED's near instantaneous response times the motion clarity is absolutely wild. However despite this and the new sub pixel arrangement leading to much better text clarity, this monitor has started many conversations between gamers. LG made the interesting choice of equipping this monitor with a matte coating. This is what has caused so many conversations as many gamers prefer the better grain free clarity and potentially better contrast and vibrancy afforded by glossy coatings like on QD OLED and LGs own C and G4 TVs. The question is, despite this coating, is the LG 4K OLED still a great monitor, or should gamers avoid it in favor of less expensive QD OLED monitors?
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Color/Accuracy - 2:44
Brightness - 5:00
Shadow Detail - 7:29
Gaming/Latency - 8:11
Motion Clarity - 9:25
Text Clarity - 10:31
Matte vs Glossy - 11:02
Angles & Uniformity - 14:12
Audio - 14: 41
Menu - 15:04
VRR Flicker - 15:07
Vertical Banding - 15:22
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Who is This For - 16:54
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should i return the monitor? I got it for around $1100 (new). I have it for 4 days now, and I've liked it so far as i came from 2k 240hz ips from Alienware. I'd like to get the qd-oled by MSI but it just never comes in stock. I only have about 10 days left to return. I usually game in a dark room with controlled lightings.
Personally I’m returning mine and using an LG C4 or 32” MSI QD OLED until the gorilla glass version launches in August. It’s ultimately your call though.
hhhmm would say if you don't play pubg which's time is like 5% of it in Erangel's fog and you've not seen glossy, there's no problem.
Until you start as a player of pubg. With 20 cm of distance to the device. I would say anything matte is simply a fail then.
A not glossy is simply good to look at if it's off.
@@thedisplayguy should i avoid asus because of all the dramas with rma/customer service?
Where do you know from that they launch a Gorilla Glass version in August ?
Thanks for being honest. Which QD OLED is best for mixed use? I work from home and I use a lot of Excel, programing, etc. I've head some people get headaches from QD OLED which is concerning.
what would you recommend between the aorus fo32u2p for displayport 2.1 since im going to build a new computer with the 5090 and the last cpu out or the display 2.1 is useless and i just go for the msi for exemple.
Thanks for this amazingly detailed review @thedisplayguy! I'm curious, what non-gaming monitor would you recommend with some of these characteristics: OLED, 30-32", thin bezels, bright (~500nits+ as I use it with my MBP)?
Glossy coating: Medium rare Japanese wagyu
Matte coating: *Well-done walmart steak*
The coating + price difference is why I decided to go with QD-OLED instead.
My set up is in our living room with a large window next to me. Would you go QD Oled or this LG Oled. Even with the blinds closed it still gets very bright in the room.
you gotta pick your poison, have matt screen and deal with lower brightness but better reflection handling or high brightness and maybe matt or glossy coating but at the same time with qd oled if your room is bright the blacks dont seem perfectly black since the technology is like that in bright rooms
sooo for 4k oled 144+ you would recommend MSI MEG 342C?
Will there be a video about this display? ProArt Display PA34VCNV for $730
Which monitor we should get in 4k 240hz?
Just finished your review and agree with everything 100%.
just bought this monitor, never noticed the vertical banding..... until I watched your video, tested on dark theme windows file explorer, and now I noticed
Dam
Dude it’s a oled 240hz monitor. Get over it. It’s a dope screen
not saying it's bad, it's just not as good as other cheater product is not a pleasant experience
i understand xian
but for my part: 240 for over 3 years - 240 isn't dope anymore and nomore at all. absolutely. office quality for me. (and was before - I'm sensitive or objective)
on the other hand. 480 then will be dopy anytimes
@@urkent4463 hahaha bro I get it but you’ll never be able to future proof. And let me know when we get 480hz 4k. I’ll buy it for both of us
Is this monitor good for reading text? I read somewhere it has some sort of good pixel layout compared to other oleds? Can someone who has this monitor tell your opinion. I need a monitor for work (coding) and gaming and just wonder if it's ok to do long hours of reading
Yes, the W-OLED layout is great for text clarity.
Every two weeks, lg discounts their oled monitors and tv between 300 to 500 off on their websites and through best buy. If this monitor is around in June,i will be getting this monitor.
i LOVE the built in speakers, it works with my simple setup, I will buy it if it goes on sale a lot cheaper, i'd ideally love to see $800 or less...
Hello, can I have your opinion on this monitor vs the gigabyte Aorus 32 FO32U2P
I’ll be reviewing the FO32U2P very soon. The FO32U2 is excellent.
How many days or weeks roughly for the review?
@@thedisplayguyalienware oled is king
Appreciate your honesty and objectivity.
Are you gonna review the asus pg32ucdm, I’ve noticed you’ve been logging the hdr, I wanna see the numbers you come up with and how they stack against the gigabyte, AW, lg, and msi, I’ve got the asus preorder
Does it rotate into portrait mode?
is it worth the buy when i work in vfx visuell effects? or should i stay with my 10bit ips panel?
Nah this is mostly for gamers
I mean as long as it has 100% srg it is fine for screen work. I worked on game of theones justice leage etc with gaming displays and it was good after carefull calibration. Just not sure about this texture om the panal with pure whites. I think i need to see in real life
@@watchmanplain5780 If I remember correctly, I don't think it's exactly 100%. Pretty close, but not 100%. There's better options for visual work at lower budgets. This is kind of overkill in my opinion.
can you make a comparison with an old matte display smearing actual oil on it and comparing it to a standard matte pannel? YES I'M SERIOUS
That’s actually not a bad idea. Vegetable oil has always seemed like it would have a similar look.
Thank you for being honest
Great review
I was looking at these 240Hz QD/W OLED monitors, going to buy one... and after watching your stuff bought the S90C today. I really hope that it's good for PC gaming.
S90C is the best for the $$$ honestly. Easy S tier.
@@thedisplayguy Yea that is the thing, the 240Hz 4k monitors are selling in EU significantly more expensive than in US, for example the MSI one that I keep hearing is like 900$ in US, is like 1500+$ in EU which is absolutely ridiculous. The S90C 55" was on sale for 1000$. Main reason I want to try it, is because I was actually blown away just by HDR on the frist gen QD OLED monitor the AW3423DW.
Is there something wrong with the 480hz mode? Please set the resolution to 1920x1080 in 4k/240hz mode (full screen). Then in 480Hz mode 1920x1080 (fullscreen) and compare the picture. For me it's a difference like day and night Absolutely blurred somehow distorted in 480 Hz mode :( Compare images or text. Can someone confirm this?
I have one i love it but wish it had glossary screen only gripe. Can you take the matte off the screen somehow?
You can technically buff out the matte finish, but it obviously voids a warranty, requires a little bit of knowledge, and there's a potential risk of damaging it.
@@domosapien I'm a automotive car painter so i have all the types of polishing paste and polishing machines. The Heat from a polisher could melt the screen if your not careful or wrong paste will scratch to deep so i understand . Where is the info on polishing the matte i can't find any info?
@@sean.d7171 this same channel has a video saying what products to use, look for "Finally - 32” 4K GLOSSY Mini LED HDR Gaming Monitor" and watch from minute 4:09 onwards, as an automotive car painter the rest should be easy for you to follow, use whatever tools you use for extremely soft plastics
Edit: i suggest practicing on a damaged display first if you have one
@@sean.d7171 Although you obviously aren't a complete novice, I'd still recommend "experimenting" on a very cheap or preferably broken matte monitor first... Even if you're successful, that still leaves the issue regarding the warranty!
@TecraX2 yes I think I'll do that test it out on a older monitor I have
Yesterday I got my AW3225QF and I'm so happy. Here in Germany it's nearly the only 32" OLED available and also the cheapest one. I love the glossy finish and the eARC feature. The design matches the PS5 pretty well.
Thank you for your honest stuff.
Still holding out based on some reviewers saying that a flat version with a few added features is coming out later this year
@@moltenbullet OK, I didn‘t know. The slight curve doesn‘t bother me. For gaming it‘s great.
great review 👍👍
I am new here, thank you for this review, very informative and I like your war against mate coating.
I do game, but not so much, I am using my computer for work, for coding, reading etc.
I am with a iiyama XB2776QS-B1 with a AH-IPS LED-backlit (back then that was impressive) and I unsure if for my use an OLED monitor, Q-OLED or any other will be favourable, due to the burn-in effect.
What are your take
I will have many more reviews and comparison videos coming. I suggest watching them and other creator’s reviews and deciding for yourself what best fits your use case.
dont get an oled for work, they are terrible for that
price (1400$) and matte coating completely destroy the advantage of this monitor vs QD OLEDs, i hope that ASUS or others brands will have this panel with glossy coating and with a little bit of tuning improve the 10% window white HDR Brightness
can we get the 2.1 DP Aorus review???
Monitors unboxed just released a video about it, I trust them way more than this guy.
They are yet to release a full review though, coming soon though
can you do laptop screen test as will?
I'm really tired of matte coatings. I really wish someone would at least give the option for budget and medium range monitors as well
dough is probably the only company giving you the option but they have a bad history
That's all because some suit decides that matte sells better, ignoring that there are more matte models to begin with.
Isn't the matte screen more expensive because that have to add it in manufacturing seems like a dumb idea if most don't want it.
What's the problem? There are more glossy monitors on the market than matte monitors, go ahead and choose yours. Matte is for those who use the monitor as their main monitor all day long for everything, not just gaming.
Matt monitors are objectively better than glossy monitors, especially if they are selling to gamers. Many people have windows next to them, or like to play with the lights one, and the glare is really annoying. It’s kind of crazy because years back when I first built my pc, people would complain about how there WASNT enough Matte monitors. And every monitor reviewer would say to go for a matte finished monitor because it was the best you could buy. It feels like we’re going backwards now
can you please review the new 1440p buget monitor from asus. ASUS XG27ACS
I just got the lg. the matte does shimmer on solid
Colors. I’m trying Qd OLED but depending on brightness. May pass all together. Mainly use was productivity. So for games. Maybe not a huge issue. And colors def. Seem muted.
imo the MSI QDOLED 360hz monitor is incredible. Fixed every issue i had with the LG 27" model.
Got it, agree it’s way too over priced, but fear of market drove me to snag it regardless. As expected I don’t mind the matte, it’s glossier than I expected. The 480 hz is incredibly smooth, and the 1080p looks crisp because it’s a true 4:1 conversion.
I chose this one because I want 32 inch, not 27. Even at 1080p I still want 32.
I get what you mean about the black crush, I’ve noticed that too. Adjusting the black level is a trade off between black blacks and faded blacks.
HDR looks great, although I don’t see myself using it often.
I’m using an HDMI 2.1 cable so idk if I have any issues with compression right?
You still get compression over 2.1. Adjusting shadow detail to 60 instead of 50 helps a bit.
I purchased this display for $1100 after tax and coming from a 42” C3 I have to say the gaming performance is noticeably better. I only notice the matte coating in a negative way on my windows taskbar. Is Qd oled better, possibly, but I have no issues with this product.
These displays have been overhyped for a while now and everyone wants the first iteration to be perfect.
I love how minimally branded this monitor is...and wish there was a 32 inch chinless/logoless offering with a glossy coating
Still going with the PG32UCDP. My room is very bright and the raised/magenta blacks with QDs will bother me
First truly honest review I've seen of this monitor! 👍🏻
Honest because he says it’s bad? Seems like this guy has a thing against matte coating. When people are comparing monitors side by side non-objectively, you should believe that. This guy is clearly biased
@@IAmDWill yes it is honest because he says its bad, most other reviewers only say positive things because they are scared they wont get free stuff
@@IAmDWill You didn't listen or watch the part where he talks about the shadow and color issues? In addition to the matte coating issues for a monitor that is priced that high?
If you wanna stay a fan boy and don't want to really listen to the arguments that's fine but don't lay them out so proudly ... it looks stupid.
By the way "This guy is clearly biased", .. that is a weak statement when the guy bought this monitor with his own money, shits on LG's monitor which is a huge deal in the monitor business and this video isn't even sponsored.
Try harder
@@SuperNova-gc7tm let’s be real for a second, like actually real. most PC gamers are spending 3K to 4K on builds. A person who has the money which is MAJORITY of the demographic who is actually searching “4K OLED monitor” doesn’t care too much about a $100-$200 price difference on a monitor they actually want over another. The same demographic who even though ALL cell phones are overpriced will still buy the best one because it’s the best.
@@IAmDWill This again is not relevant.
The better monitor to buy in this price range, is the asus 32" inch 4K OLED, without the matte coating, the better color and shadows.
for a few more hundred dollars, the asus makes more sense.
That's what he is saying .. the LG is not worth that money.
Noone who can afford to pay around 1500$+ wants to waste it on a product that is worth 600-700$
Hopefully the Dough WOLED glossy unit with DP2.1 will have better launch firmware or a brightness increase.
Keep up the great display journalism, homie!
Honestly holding out for a 4k 240Hz + 1440p 360Hz mode/monitor
Is there a 45” version with 5k resolution?
Amen on horrid shadow detail. In the Lagom black level test using the sRGB preset the first block that was distinguishable was 6. My PG32UCDM shows 1 when targeting the sRGB gamma or two when targeting a flat 2.2 gamma.
I have an LG C3 and I believe this problem with the vertical lines also exists because it is w-oled.
After long research I decided on the Alienware AW2725DF, when oled; glossy; 27 inches (32 I think is too big for me); 1440p 360hz (in my opinion, perfect for today); and the icing on the cake... 3 years full warranty (including image retention, burning).
Honestly, I thought this mode option that LG implemented on this monitor was really cool. In my opinion, LG should tip the scales towards oled, glossy and, above all, full guarantees for its monitors.
Excellent video!
😎👍
I like matte displays on my laptop and I kinda regret picking Oled razer Blade over mini led razer blade. In short oled picture was better in dark rooms, in brighter rooms mini led won picture quality including blacks and punchy colors. Reason? Oled glossy screen was too reflective, distracts the quality in brighter rooms.
The price is too high. Even if you have money to burn it doesn't make sense to spend on this displays vs other OLED options imo
oled price is expensive...i settle with a miniled which perform great in brightness and hdr until oled goes below 500 dollar
Order mines already. If you’re just going for display sure get something else, I picked this one for its 400hz and option to resize the screen because it benefits the type of games I play, otherwise I’ve would’ve just gotten a tv
@@HenrySavinon True. I can see the use case of that monitor for games like CS2 but i hate matte coating . I ended up getting an LG C2 42" because i now play more single player games and the LG C2 is glossy.
Why do you get so different results than other content creators? Did you watch any of them? Everyone said brightness was super!
It's literally not. OLED monitors in general aren't "super" in brightness.
hes right, all oleds are dim, other reviewers are bad. also lg marketed this at 1300 nits, it doesnt even get close
@@DrakonR literally, it is! Compared to other OLEDs off-crouse! Just as he does in the video! And just like the other content creators I mention in my post. Why would you think I would compare them to anything else than other OLEDs! :-)
@@chrisbenn rub two brain cells together for me. If you want to only compare to OLED, then your statement is still incorrect because OLED TVs exist which have much better brightness. You know? Like how he compares them to the TV counterparts in the video. Comparing one OLED monitor to another with marginally differences in brightness still isn't "super." They all fall flat as far as brightness is concerned so making that comparison is nonsensical.
@@DrakonR Then I have one more brain cell then you! Why are you insulting me? I am just asking and not attacking! Jerk!
In his video he has brightness results he says is not as brights and if that is compared to TVs I did not understand that! I was sure he was doing as other content creators and comparing to other monitors...
love this, would also wanna hear optimum's new take if he has one. Great watching and researching with many and multiple videos, and make a choice.
I'll be getting the samsung 27" oled/qled 360hz 1440p be around 899 with gsync. Will have the new matte anti relecting material that the 95Ds have.
I just pick this monitor up from Best Buy and I’m ready to return it. The matted screen kills the quality way too much. To 240/480hz works like advertised. 1080p mode looks more like a terribly bad down scale.
If you simply change your resolution to 1440p 240 no scaling that looks 1000 times better over the 480 option.
I now 1440p 240hz is the sweet spot. I think I’m finally ready to go wide screen too.
I just hope that future oled monitor will have a glossy coating option...
What has happened to LG and their gaming monitors? The 27gp950 (which I own) has a great semi-gloss coating with a bright, vibrant picture. Since then, they seem to have gone with heavy matte coatings and low-nit dim displays (or an aggressive ABL that kills brightness potential). I have the 27gr95um 4K mini-led, and have been so let down by it due to it's horrible inverse ABL that kills peak highlights (and overall brightness) when the screen has any dark areas(using Gamer Profiles 1 or 2, which are the only ones that don't use weird unchangeable gamas, contrast settings, etc). I'm guessing they did this to reduce blooming but it destroys the impact of HDR peak highlights in the process. In my opinion, compared to the Innocn 27m2v (which I also own), the 27gr95um doesn't even seem like an HDR display (when HDR is enabled). On paper, with more dimming zones and also being HDR 1000 certified, it has the potential to be better in HDR over the Innocn, but in practice it fails. They released one firmware update and apparently gave up on it and abandoned it (it has been at a discounted price for a while and, at least as of a month or so ago, told me there are no further plans for more firmware updates). On top of that, they lied to me about how to fix the dimming of the display (in the Q&A section on the monitor's page). LG told me to simply turn off "DFC' in the monitor's settings, but the problem is, the 27gr95um does NOT have a DFC setting (like many of their monitors do). Sorry to rant, but LG slapped their supporters in the face with that monitor.
Thanks for the review. The problem with the MSI is that you can't find them in stock - the channel is just dry rn if you want the 32 inch.
they are the most available of all the 32" models (except for the Dell one that is in VERY high stock)... you can buy the MSI 32" on the shelf in Vancouver or Edmonton for example, in Canada
In the US these things can't be found - it is a wasteland for those things. The cynical side of me says - this was done on purpose since the price is very different (lower for us) than in other regions. So the supply is practically non-existent where that is the case.
@@TourGuide-hl3zh possibly, i'm not sure if you heard but they immediately raised the price in Canada $100 more than the original advertised MSRP, MSI changed the MSI after the first week of preorders (they are $1380 CAD plus tax or so in Canada)
At that rate CAD they are at an equivalent rate to the US regional price. I wonder why the channel is so barren here? Thanks for the update.
24ms total system latency seems really bad. Is this real? My crt with 178hz should do less than half and i dont need 480 fps for it.
That is total system latency, OLED response time is really under 1ms
You went off the deep end after you started shitting on QD-OLED after praising it, BUT I 100% agree with you on THIS issue. These matte coatings have a negative impact on the visual presentation. I thought it was drama until I saw the LG 27 inch 240 Hz OLED, but I quickly sold that and upgraded to the 32 inch QD-OLED.
The 27" LG had worse subpixel structure, lower brightness and a worse matte coating (more grain) compared to this new one, I assume this new one isn't so bad.
@@houssamalucad753I’ve owned both and it’s still bad.
@@houssamalucad753 Yeah, I was disappointed with it. I bought it to be close to endgame and it came nowhere close. It was still good, but my Alienware 32 inch 240 Hz 4K QD-OLED blows it away.
I bought one, I prefer matte over glossy (untreated), but certainly the higher end TV's use glossy panels with anti-reflective coatings that work quite well, probably skipped as a cost cutting measure. Also 1080p 32" looks fine playing valorant when I have the monitor pushed all the way to the back of my desk, which I do anyway given the size.
I got this monitor from pre order and got the 15% off so it was almost $1200 which is still a lot more expensive than the QD Oleds. I replaced my AW3423DW (which was also pre ordered in 2022) and I agree with almost everything you said. One thing I like about this monitor though is in HDR the reds tend to be more of a deep rose red than the QD Oleds which look orange in my eyes... greens look better imo too.
My biggest gripe is I 100% agree that the brightness and EOT curve needs to be fixed ASAP, this monitor in HDR is WAY darker in some scenes like the max brightness is 600 nits WTF???? Also with my AMD gpu, the driver doesn't say AMD Premium Pro... just Adaptive Sync Compatible.. and I can tell...
Another disappointment is yeah... 1080p looks horrendous, my native 1080p secondary monitor looks way better than scaled down 4k to 1080p. However, at 24" mode and turned the sharpness to 70, its quite a bit of a difference than the trash 1080p 32".
I bought the AW3225QF Alienware about a month ago, not cheap but I don't regret it. One of the Best PC things I've ever bought.
I have this monitor and I made the right choice on getting the matte coating for my use case. I have 4 Ikea Detolfs behind me that have LEDs on each shelves and usually play guitar with all the lights on. If that was a QD-OLED, the raised blacks would bother me like crazy. Plus, I like to play horror games with all the lights on and the black is still black and the colors are still vibrant.
It really all depends on how you will use it. On a well lit environment, get the LG and if you can control the lighting, get the QD-Oleds.
As i commented pro glossy here and in other videos, that's perfectly fine. Matte is better in a bright environment. Ideally, we'll get a perfectly non reflective surface some day. Until then, manufacturers should offer both variants so no one gets the impression of being forced to use something he doesn't like.
How does it compare vs other matte monitors? I really don't know what to think. Some reviewers said it was a relatively mild matte coating and looks nice. This guy is screaming about it being horrific and I see other people commenting the coating is so bad that it makes 4K look like 1080p.
Which seems... unlikely.
Eh miniLED isn’t perfect but I’ll be sticking with it until OLED can do 1000nits full screen brightness. I just wish there was a glossy miniLED option
If you're paying more than $1k for this monitor, you're doing it wrong. Plenty of coupon codes and cashback offers that can get this down to sub $900 without much trying. At that price, it's a no brainer.
I bought this monitor a month ago and I don’t see anything wrong with the coating not even using excel, so don’t know what he is talking about
Its a preference thing
LG swindled everyone with this “OLED” monitor. All they wanted was contrast. Instead they got matte, grey, and crushed shadow detail all the same time. It’s devastating to all gamers. You may as well hold a coloring book outside of your dirty dust covered window and say “beep boop” while pressing the buttons on your vacuum cleaner. That would be an equal experience to this embarrassment.
Very helpful review, thanks!
So it's not bright enough for impactful HDR but it's brighter than all the 3rd gen QD OLED panels..hope next year brings better QD OLED panels
im buying the samsung 48 s90d cause i already have an lg c1 48 and using two lg tvs will cause one remote to control both tvs monitors tend to have a matte screen and 27 and 32 even 34 inch tvs are too small and the 45 and 49 inch ultra wide 32.9 is too small height wise.
Im happy to buy msi mpg271qrx for glossy finish and qd oled
The other good thing about this monitor is the sound. But yeah these use cases are too niche for LG to be charging that much.
No shadow detail = no reason to get this monitor. Shadow detail is basically one of the top reasons to get oled and it can't do it.
This is the same price as the MSI with the 15%% discount + Rakuten. Just needs the firmware updates pushed and this will probably be the best alternative to the FO32U2P and AW3225QF.
I do agree, 480hz is almost there to the reference image of the u.f.o.
This monitor is a casuals oled monitor.
An enthusiasts buys a QD oled at 55 inch or greater, glossy screen, optimizes hdr black floor and hdr settings on games with reshade, etc. Etc.
Do you really think a casual buying this matte oled even had an idea of what reshade is? Probably not.
Damn. I was quite excited for this one. I had the LG 27" OLED from last year. It also had severe vertical banding that did not go away with pixel refreshes and crushed near-black details (impossible to fully fix with calibration/settings), just as you described here. Combining those issues with the matte coating, the viewing experience was honestly too dirty, especially on dark mode desktop apps. I couldn't justify keeping it for those reasons. I was surprised that no reviews mentioned those issues back then. This one seemed kind of perfect on paper, but if it's still suffering from the same problems, I just can't. Thanks for actually testing and talking about those things, other reviews don't.
Everyone on Reddit is saying the coating is better than that on the 27" model. Are they all just big poopypants liars?
I’ve owned both and it’s marginally better.
Who is it for? Man, I want to play Ghost of Tsushima in 4k with HDR and then go play Valorant in 480Hz. I don't want to have two monitors on my desk. There is no other monitor that can offer me a similar experience.
awesome monitor, I will definitely buy it when it comes to Europe
It just sucks how expensive OLED gaming monitors generally are in Europe. For example the ASUS PG32UCDM is 1800 usd (as opposed to 1300 in the US). For context, a 65 inch LG C3 is about 1550 usd nowadays.
Yeah, the only exception seems to be the Alienware. However, since I don't want neither a curved monitor or one with a Fan, sadly this isn't an option!
@@TecraX2 Yeah, it's probably a supply issue. I imagine they don't get that many of them here so they sell them at much higher prices while the TVs are mass produced and have high availability everywhere.
@@GoldenSW I'm sure there are overall supply issues initially, but it still doesn't make sense that the MSI model costs almost twice as much in Europe vs US!
@@TecraX2 I feel you man, it's rough being a gamer nowadays
@@GoldenSW Hopefully these prices will go down after the summer, especially in Europe!
Well, the quantum dot 4k 240hz monitors here cost just as same as the lg in my region. So I guess it depends ... :)
The banding is the worst part for me. I was so bummed when i checked my new G4 and it had some pretty bad spots but luckily it was mostly cleared up after a 10 min pixel compensation cycle. I cant see it with my eyes any more bit i can see it with my phone in a couple spots. I love the MLA WOLED panels but the QD OLEDs are definitely where its at for monitors.
If the Samsung S95D had DV and worked better with VRR at 121-144 hz I'd go with QD OLED. Went with the G4 since its the best balance for PC gaming and picture quality at 77".
16:19 Such a blanket statement. Go tell that to Eizo, Boland, Canon, FSI, Konvision, Kroma, NEC (among other high end brands), that have monitors with 5 digits price tags. Not all matte coatings are bad, or are they?
I would say all matte coatings are inherently bad for picture quality. It’s just a matter of how bad, and if you’re ok with that sacrifice to have a diffused reflection rather than a clear reflection.
@@thedisplayguy the funny thing is that so many huge RUclipsrs talk about the difference between matte and glossy, saying that you can't see the difference and that they prefer the matte coating. I think either they're paid to say that or they're ignorant and biased.
I seem to remember reading the new anti-glare coating on the Samsung S24 Ultra is "Nano Matte", and Apple is also has nano-matte screens, so it seems not ALL matte coatings are bad, just the only good type of matte coating is "Nano Matte".
@@budthecyborg4575 idk about that nanomatte but is simply your phone is used most of the time in a bright evironment so matte help you a lot and is a little screen..........so you don't lose much quality! we are talking about 32!
@@Dragostream I had the LG 27GR95QE-B wich is 1440p resolution and 27" and the matte coating is horrid. The screen looked oily and it made the image look like 1080p instead of 1440p . I returned it the next day and got the LG C2 42" wich is everything i want.
MLA on monitors can`t give high brightness because of the pixel size. Because of the MLA they where able to make a 32" Oled 4k with decent brightness. That`s why you get more than double brightness on a 55" LG Oled with MLA.
Thanks my guy.
LG's monitor has disappeared from Canada suddenly. I guess it won't be on sale again for months. Weird.
I think I’m ok with it, I’m admittedly an LG homer so I’m going to stick with it. I concede it shouldn’t have been 1400$ but I still love it. Hopefully they put out a worthwhile firmware update soon
Integer scaling 1080p on a 4K screen should look much better than 1080p on 1440p. Hopefully it's not something wrong with the screen.
If this monitor/panel did 1440p @360hz, this would be an end game display.
9:05 We need 5K240hz OLED with 1440p480hz.
(And then the end game display is 8K240hz + 4K480hz.)
8K at 32" is overkill, 5k & 2K dual mode display is already endgame, Apple studio monitor clarity for work, and 480hz 1440p clarity for fps gaming. That is already true endgame, and if they somehow add BFI it would have 960hz motion clarity and at that point nothing can be better
@@houssamalucad753 8K is ideal for every screen size, people need to start thinking about monitors in terms of "Pixels Per Degree" and not physical pixel pitch because your field of view is the only thing that really matters.
Viewing a 32" monitor from two feet away gives you 60 degrees field of view, that's only 127 Pixels Per Degree, when maximum perceivable sharpness with 20/20 vision isn't achieved until 300PPD, 8K is actually just the middle ground in terms of pixel density.
@@houssamalucad753 (Quick reminder 20/20 vision is "average", by definition half the population has sharper vision than 20/20.)
gpus and cpus cant run that, it would be nice but useless, even a 4090 7800x3d cant get close to that
@@budthecyborg4575 and? please try a 5k studio display and tell me you can see the pixels, you can put your face really close to the monitor and still see perfect text. For fps gaming 1440p is plenty since things are moving fast and 2k is already enough to spot enemies from the other side of the map in most fps tactical shooters.
There are some worker protection acts in some countries that mandate a matt display. So I get why they did it.
This is a gaming monitor, so that still doesn’t make sense.
@@thedisplayguy People use their monitor for everything not ONLY gaming.
And even if YOU don't like the coating, it does not mean EVERYBODY. I also don't like it but it gives people options and that is always a good thing.
@@interceptor001 "People use their monitor for everything not ONLY gaming. "
No kidding, but it's a premium display. These will never be purchased for "workers."
"And even if YOU don't like the coating, it does not mean EVERYBODY."
The market is saturated in matte, so just stop defending it already. Plenty of choices. This is a premium display and it should look premium.
@@DrakonR What a bullshit comment. In some companies you can actually choose the gear you want. This monitor may very well end up in an office.
And where is the market saturated with matte OLED monitors? The LG and ASUS will bei the only once 4k 240hz.
Even Apple gives you the option for a nano texture. So stop forcing your ideas for a monitor down everyone's throat and give people the option to choose.
@@interceptor001 "This monitor may very well end up in an office. "
So could every other monitor. This is a nothing argument.
"And where is the market saturated with matte OLED monitors?"
I didn't specify OLED, there are plenty of other options. Doesn't take away from the fact the market is saturated by matte in the monitor space.
"So stop forcing your ideas for a monitor down everyone's throat and give people the option to choose."
Hold up a mirror. The market is saturated with matte displays. They have options to choose. But people who want a glossy monitor only have one choice. That's not equal by any stretch of the imagination nor is it a choice. If you legitimately want options, you would be in support of glossy.
Just saying.
How does everyone else who actually bought one of these feel about that matte coating?
I feel like this guy is complaining about it because it IS a matte display.
I NEED a matte display. How does it compare to other matte coatings is what I need to know.
It does look nasty in these close ups where he's blasting torch light into it. But in all footage I've seen of actual gameplay on this monitor it looked great.
Here in belgium there are NO qd oled monitors in stock, NONE AT ALL....
I like matte coatings. I will buy matt OLED this year, but not this one :-)
I don’t even care about the coating. I just want brighter panels.
I got the Aorus FO32U2P model which has the same 240hz/480hz mode switcher and honestly, I can't tell the difference between 240hz/480hz. I prefer to leave it on 4K 240hz because the image quality is crisper. Going from 60hz to 120hz is like a night and day difference with regards to animations and input lag. From 120hz to 144hz - pretty much identical. 144hz to 240hz - mouse movements and scrolling feels a bit smoother and input lag is pretty much non-existant. Switching from 240hz to 480hz - pointless, diminishing returns.
There are a few reasons you can buy this, you play fps games, this can change to 24 or 27 inches size for u which this video doesn't mention it. And you do documents on your computer if you just play games maybe you can just buy a TV. Also, if you want to see the true black which QD-Oled cannot provide because it will become purple when there is a little light in your room. I don't know why this guy doesn't know why LG made the monitor like this, is it that really hard to understand?
Even with my Best Buy employee discount this thing is over $1100
qd-oled is only an option for you, if you only use the monitor in dark rooms with no lights
if you have a 4090 and play arena shooters, this monitor is awesome
I polished my LG screen now its the best 👌
Which method did you use?
Lg love thier gimmicks. Gonna stick with the C series.
I KNOW 1 guy he is cs 2 player he had 540hz TN panel asus rog swift for 3days and he says it has bad color calibration... and he bring back and toke OLED LG DUAL :D
I wait till next year for version 2
Super Matt next year
@@NexGenTek 😂