MOST IMPORTANT THING IN KNIFE SHARPENING
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2020
- most important thing in knife sharpening, this is a freehand knife sharpening video about repeating your angle and how to find your angle. This is the most important part in free hand knife sharpening.
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These videos are amazing man. I can now sharpen anything and I’m the go to knife guy here in my community. Thank you Jared
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate your content always! Most of the "RUclipsrs" don't know how to sharpen or how a Knive really is! Just showing and flicking a Knife and after that making a Review is a Joke for me! Glad that not all of them are like that! Greetings from Austria Buddy!
I for the most part agree its hard to say you reviewed a knife if you never even sharpened it or if it didnt need to atleast be honed
I can attest to the way Jerad marks his fingers and his techniques. They got me over the hump, and I get great edges now. I think! 🤔
And thats what its about is basically training wheels sorta speak, or you can doit forever just to ensure you keep repeating a perfect angle
If you think it’s a good Edge then it is, by definition, a good edge.
I had a little cheap pocket microscope around I’d bought for my son and I to have some fun together. It was like $14. I decided to examine the bevel with it and wow! It made the process feel so much more intuitive. I’m really new to this and recently picked up the Work Sharp Guided Field sharpener. Looking at the blade occasionally through out the process was really helpful. I could also see clearly where I’d sharpened off too much of the metal and too high up the blade. I could also see when the cutting edge had a ton of small nicks etc.
I’ve been thinking of doing a video showing the process and images through the eyepiece.
Anyway, I haven’t seen people really discuss this and as a noob It was really helpful in understanding all the steps.
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One year later and you're still teaching ppl very well. Just sharpened 5 knives and was very successful with this video. Thanks and sharpen on brah
All the tips in this video are solid gold - THANK YOU for helping me put my first really sharp edge on my knife!
What you kept saying about not being perfect, but getting a sharp edge really helped me get over being inconsistent, having a knife be sharper than it was is better than letting it stay dull
I had to take a crap knife i had laying around to practice these motions. Helps so much. And the marker indicators on fingers is next level. Makes it so much more fluid. Thanks so much! Sucks to see only 20k views on this, where a baby monkey doing the hammer dance would have 20m views. This is a life skill everyone could use.
7:25 that's the most accurate statement about free hand sharpening. If you didn't get it then you didn't do it enough. It takes take, hand sharpening takes time to learn it's deff not something that you just pick up and bingo you can do it. To do it well it takes time to learn.
Very good demonstration, Skill that edge is SWEET!!! Thanks for sharing!
Dude. The thumb line marking us genius. I was taught to eyeball it, but that will make it super easy for beginners. 🤯
great technique with the marker! I use visual guides on the side, but I'll have to try this and see if it's any better. As a corollary to this lesson, biggest thing that turned me into a decent hand sharpener: ya gotta keep sharpening at that angle, sometimes for a very, very long time, until you've actually hit the apex. It's Not easy or intuitive if you're reprofiling, even slightly, depending on the steel. and it's tricky because knives can feel "kinda sharp" before you've truly apexed, i.e, it's possible to slice paper with an imperfect edge, but it won't be as pretty or easy as it should be. If you can see ANY shininess just to the side of the edge you're working on, you're not done yet. Sometimes you can feel a "false burr," sometimes you just can't believe it's taking so long lol, but unless you keep going until you truly apex, your edge is gonna suck.
Also re the last note, If you care about perfectly even sides, hand sharpening probably isn't for you, with experience it can get better, but a lansky or similar is the way to go if you're anal about that kind of thing. That said, if you look closely, most knives, even expensive ones, aren't absolutely perfect from one side to the other from the factory. I've never needed anything more than a lansky with diamond stones to get perfectly even, mirror polished edges that cut you by looking at them lol. I don't usually go full mirror if I'm sharpening by hand, the edges just can't possibly look as good as using a guided system. Most of my knives are sharpened by hand, which look just fine if not perfect and cut like razors, but the "lookers" get the lansky lol.
You'd be a good teacher Jerad. You are very good at teaching how to sharpen. I've watched other sharpening videos and didn't learn a thing. Definitely learn from your videos.
Thats what made me want to start doing these i watched sharpeners get frustrated answering questions, and not explain things very well and its as if they forgot what it was like to learn from scratch, and it made me want to help, after seeing someone talk crap to someone asking questions because they answered the same question so many times and i thought yeah dumbas, its all different people so ofcourse they will ask the same questions
Sharpening is one of my favorite pastimes. I have a decent collection and Iam always working on an edge. My coworkers always look at me funny because my arm hair is all patchy or gone.
I know what you mean, i had to hide my legs most of the summer, people might think i have mange
@@NeevesKnives Dude, i was too embarrassed to say however,my legs are the same! You know your a knife guy when..... 😆
WOW!!! What an awesome way to find your angle!!!! So easy!!
Man that’s magical work of art.
I know people that have been sharpening their knives for 10 years (literally) and can’t sharpen or knows as much as this RUclipsr. Neither can I I’ve tinkered around for a year and nothing lol so I purchased a sharpening system called ts prof pro hunter. I can’t wait for the day it’s delivered because I bought the super extreme pack . Then I hear not every knife takes or holds a sharp edge when it’s polished such as maxamet and etc except for m390 steel so now I have to purchase a spyderco m390
type knife just to see if I can get my knives a mirror polished edge
Thanks Jerod...good stuff. This will be a big step in the right direction for me.
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I finally found a great knife from WARTECH. I bought it in a Command Post here in Houston for $12.99.
absolutely beautiful...one day man...one day...I will be there. So much to focus on until I get the muscle memory and the feel for individual blades...made big strides over the last few weeks with help like this! Proud supporter and as always, much love fam
Great tips bud these all helped me I hope everyone tries some of these listen to this man!
This might be the best beginner sharpening video I've ever watched. Good job and thanks.
Awesome!! Thank you! I have an entire play list of sharpening videos to help teach including a step by step
Dosent have to be perfect just as close to perfect as you can get. Your gonna be a great father
Dude these videos are awesome! I have a pile of stones that i had decided were only good for destroying my knives that i am finally able to get a functional edge with. THANK YOU!! Keep em comin and congrats on the youtube success, you deserve it brother!!
Well-done, Jerad! You packed a lot of great tips and info into this video, and also made it interesting and motivating. I just received the new precision/adjustable system, but the principles you demonstrate still apply. I’ll also try your techniques when “in the field”, and not worry about getting perfect results. Thanks again!
Awesome Jerry, sometimes its hard for people to relate a fixed system to freehand but basically everything still applies aside from holding your angle, but the grt pattern to pressure, what stones, what stropping compounds, chasing burrs, de burring, all still apply, I appreciate you commenting Jerry
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Lots of informations! One year later, still learning! Thanks again 😊
Alot of awesome tips. I hope someday to get into freehand sharpening. Great video 👍
That is beautifully done!!
This is great. Best practical tips i have found for sharpening. my dad could always put a scary sharpe edge on knife and i feel like a disappointment bc i have always been shit at it. Im learning now more so can teach my own son. Thanks for the info brother.
👊 that's amazing! I have a Playlist of Sharpening tips
This is solid technique and explanation. Interesting point on not regularly listening to music while you're sharpening. I can understand this as I don't ever use head phone with music blaring in my ears while I'm training with the weights. 100% concentration. Music may be playing around me, but the concentration is on the task at hand. Doesn't have to be perfect. As perfect repetitions as possible in the gym; as perfect repetitions as possible repeating that angle. Most important thing.
Absolutely
I have the same knife and messed up her bevel, going to try this tips and follow your instructions hopping I can get it back and sharp again!
Oh yea🤜🤛awsome demonstration brother. I used to think that I had to be fast and it never worked out for me. So I went to the kme for some years. Got boring and actually time consuming getting out the kme, setting it up, sharpening the blade etc... however watching outpost and you as well about eh, 4 months ago or so ago I realized I could just steadily take my time and go with the flow of the blade👊👊👊thanks to you guys (in an awsomeway)I am now addicted to hand sharpening 🤗🤗plus it is half the time then kme sharpening with more satisfying results. Thanks guys for these vids. Yall are full of knowledge and experience 🤜💯🤛👊👊👊✌🙏keep on keepn on brotha luvinit for sure 👍 💯 👌 💪 🙏
Its definitely more satisfying, and when you do great work it feels good know you did that with skill and when you get bad results even better because now you have more work to do, lean towards the difficult ways in the end its much much easier
You are a great teacher
Fantastic video mate.
Awesome video, man. This has helped me a lot! I have the exact knife and now you’ve got me wanting to resharpen it even though it’s already sharp. 😂
I know how that goes, sometimes i look for excuses to sharpen, a nick in the blade oh we gotta re sharpen, bypass stropping no honing straight to sharpening. Oh its not whittling hair, you know what time it is 😆 but i will carry and use the heck out of a knife that i feel needs a new edge soon just so i can justify it sooner
Great job Pal.
Thanks for your videos man :) I finally did a good job on my Inkosi. I think just having the confidence to take some steel off and get one side even and then the other worked.
Absolutely you have to go into it some what confident, congrats it's only the beginning
Before watching your videos freehand sharpening wasn't even an option because I sucked so much. After I saw your sharpie on the finger trick I thought that was the most genius thing I have ever seen in my life. So simple, but I never would have thought of that on my own. It was like a lightbulb went off in my head. You have a gift for teaching! You make something so nuanced, seem sooo easy. You have opened up a whole new world for me that was never possible before. I have and edge pro but now I am looking forward to freehand!!
Man thank you that seriously means a lot because my biggest hope besides a Porsche is for people to actually get something from the videos or that they get some sorta information that they need or can use, possibly a little entertainment but id love for people to learn or use something from the videos. Thank you Burgla
@@NeevesKnives I really mean it man. I love your stuff. Thank YOU for all the great videos and knowledge!! As long as you do these videos I will continue to watch! I am learning a ton! 👍
@@DJHamburgla thanks bud
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Thank you for the tips! I will have to try the sharpie on the thumb trick. One question I had was are you dragging your thumb along the stone? Or is your thumb above the stone and not touching.
Practice, practise, and practice. Nice 1 man
Definitely
Brilliant tip
I advise to not keep a rag on your leg, but have it close by and use to withboth hands, to clean the knife (you'll need that, everytime you want to check the edge, which must be often as also when you change stones/grit) Use your hand to grab the rag and put the blade with the spine in the rag, and then clean the blade with a sweap from the heel to the tip. Attention, the rag must be clead and it's advised to wash the the blade before cleaning it with the rag, to avoid scratching the sides of the blade (main bevels) Also, try to avoid touching pinching the edge while you clean the blade with the rag, it will be still cleaned up ok, jsut don't pinch with your fingers, the very edge. That's for more than one reasons, and includes safety.
Excellent videos you really have helped me take my sharpening to the next level, thanks. Also have added some amazing knives to ny collection kinda rekindled the fire for my love of knives.
What is it that you spray on your stones. You may have mentioned it before in another video but i havent been able to find it.. it looks like mildly soapy water from a spray bottle. But I have not heard what exactly it is you use. I use water on natural stones and on diamond plates I generally use oateys cutting oil the clear one but I've used dark too. Its for high speed drilling and tapping of hard metals while keeping a wet film between the 2 surfaces for sharp cut threads. Someone told me to give it a try once when I was having trouble with a more worn out plate and it made a big difference now its my go to.
Great instructional video , thank you. Can you direct me to where I can order the 300 Kneeves resin diamond stone you demonstrated with on this video thank-you
Thank you.
I freehand all of my knives….from my lowly opinels to my prized sprint run shamans. It didn’t take me long at all to get decent with it. I started with my cheapest knives and even bought several specifically to learn with. I’m not any sort of savant, I have no special talent and it only took me a few months to see my first hair whittling edge. It was about a week before I learned the basic maneuvers well enough just to be able to make things better instead of worse. Basic freehand sharpening is not a 10,000 hour skill…it’s *barely* a hundred hour skill. Mastery is another thing…that takes years, even decades. Just watch a few instructionals and get your hands dirty…that’s all it takes to get going. TLDR: forget gadgets and gizmos, freehand is the way to go. It’s not as “bad” as you think.
Absolutely! I'm not going to act like my first few edges looked amazing, but at the time I thought they did and it was on knives that were easily replaceable, from that point every edge got better and better, few months in my edges were great, after a year I realized how much better I got from that point, just like anything else, you get what you put in. If you spend time and effort into getting good you will get great.
More great sharpening info sir! We are all going to be pros soon! ✌️
I hope some people can get something out of this weeks videos, so im trying to hit all corners
@@NeevesKnives You're doing a great job!
Great video Jerad!! I’m going to try this next time. Does your thumb run across the stone to or is it above the stone a hair. You got this down Pat!!
I run it across the stone very lightly and keep the same pressure, but as light as you can keep repeating
@@NeevesKnives ok right on and thank you! 🍻
Nice video Jerad, this was very helpful as I am learning the craft of sharpening. It's like most other things, simply do it and learn from mistakes you make, but just keep doing the damn thing. you and Kara be well.
Thats right, you cant get tuned away by poor or bad results because then you dont learn
Pretty dang nice edge
Do you like toothy edge or polish edge more ? which in your opinion will last longer for a knife that being use as a animal skinning knife ?
For animal skinning definitely a toothy edge, not aggressively toothy but between 600 and 1000 grt is great, now you can find some steels out there that will do fantastic with a polished edge with skinning, but all will do good with a toothy, but i love all edge finishes just for different reasons and depending on the steel and heat treat
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I got my brother a green fh922. He'll get a twosun when I do.
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Good stuff, as usual!!
Do you ever strop on wood?
No not really i have before though, if its a softer wood
@@NeevesKnives yeah, I’m using basswood right now. I’m in between leather strops at the moment. For me, it’s a little tougher for a mirror polish, but I can still get to hair whittling.
Rat is a sick knife
Arguably, the most important thing in sharpening is proper deburring. But if you don't have angle control, you're not going to have that anyway, so ...
What diamond stone are you using in this video. Awesome tutorial. Thnx.
Ultra sharp, if you check out my links especially in my most recent videos I have 3 plates for around 50$ 300 600 1200 grit that's a steel
@@NeevesKnives Jared, are the plates you are selling 3x8 or 2x6??? Are they the Ultra Sharp version or the Ultra Sharp 2 version.
@@pauldelgados4517 they have both but the 50 is 2×6
@@pauldelgados4517 ultra sharp I'm not sure what the 2 is but they might be I'm not sure
I watch people shave with straight razor or sharpening video
I just use the black marker and put it on the bevel, run it down the stone and look and see where my blade is going on the stone and adjust it from there, after that it becomes muscle memory.
Some people have a very hard time repeating, the exact same angle over and over, close but not exact, and i know about the marker trick ive showed it before, I personally dont use or doit, so I try to show people the way I learned. And the way I try to show makes it easy to repeat the exact same angle and makes it hard to make mistakes that your trying to fix the whole time, but everyone has different methods and the marker trick is great, and imo it doesnt help with the repeat for someone that doesnt have perfect muscle memory yet
@@NeevesKnives I totally understand, I use shapton glass and ceramic. I personally like to stay away from diamond stones as I feel they are just to rough on stainless hard steel unless I’m using a carbon steel. Honestly I believe the only way to incorrectly sharpen a knife is if the knife gets duller than when you started. And muscle memory comes from repeatedly doing the same thing in the case holding the knife at your preferred angle 500 times. But regardless of that you can still slip up and cause the knife to catch a few scratches.
The most important thing is the thing I just can't do. I can set an angle but I can't keep it while moving the knife, especially since I have to move the blade sideways to sharpen the entire edge. I'm sure if I was sharpening a chisel or a really short wharncliffe knife I could do it, but a 3 inch curved edge knife just isn't happening for me. Back to Edge Pro I go. Your method looked like I might have a slight chance to have a decent result, but I think the Edge Pro is just easier probably since I have it now.
Its definitely easier at first but your thinking about it in a way that is bad, its ok to get not so good or bad results thats the path to fantastic results, you have to enjoy the process, if not the apex pro is awesome to
@@NeevesKnives I don't mind of I round the edge, but every time I try to use a stone or pocket sharpener I eventually slip and put a scratch on the side of the blade and ruin the beautiful grind lines that there is no way to get back. As a person with mild OCD it is infuriating.
@@IlliniDog01 use clear or any tape on the blade so you dont scratch and on the scales if the are searchable, I used to always do that because i used to do that, and i still do with certain knives
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Do you ever have yourself into a sharpening groove, hitting every stroke in perfect repetition, pull away for a moment to check your progress, and suddenly forget everything you know about sharpening again when reapplying the knife to the stone? Happens to me at least once per session without fail. It’s like I have a massive brain fart and forget the muscle memory required for fluidity in my motions
Yes this is very common, the problem is your thinking to hard about it, after checking your progress go back on to the stone as naturally as possible without over thinking, and make atleast 20 strokes before checking again, because it will take a few passes to get back in the groove, 20 passes will insure that if you made a micro adjustment atleast it will reflect along the whole bevel and not only in a small part of the edge, if that makes sense
How about a double edge?
You want to do each grit per sider at a time so the edges marry together properly
You know what they say - location, location, location.
But what do you mean by light pressure? Place the stone on a scale, tare it out, and demonstrate. We can then do it ourselves and actually feel what you do. Just a thought
I litterally putt the amount of pressure it takes to hold it steady and scrape the stone, if you put a little more its ok but dont try to put more pressure than you have to
@@NeevesKnives I am trying. It is a tough habit to break. Thanks.
Damn you put a nice edge on that rat! Nice toothy edge
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Mainly reliability and build quality.
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Nice chaps, - err umm ... chap.
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ok now sharpen with no table, no levels.
Ha, your enthusiasm is different from back then, compared to now. It’s good to see. Thanks again for the divorce!!!
Im afraid all that ink on your thumb will cause cancer.
Jared, you sound all coked up today. Lol
Is that a RAT 1 ?
Yes