Can You Beat Ratchet And Clank Without Packs?
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
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Ratchet and Clank Any% Packless
I wanted to do a Ratchet and Clank challenge for ages, and I feel like I kinda lucked out with being the first person to discover the skip on Kerwan to make Any% Packless a reality. The members of the Ratchet and Clank Speedrun Discord server were all very helpful to me, especially ThaRixer's Movement guide video.
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I wonder if it’s possible to beat Dark Souls 1 without killing small enemies(bosses are fine)
You ought to check out some "Dark Souls Pacifist" videos. There's a couple that explain how to pull off large amounts of the game without killing. Thanks for watching 😀
I wonder if it is possible to finish 1st place on every mario kart track (wii or gamecube) without touching any object boxes, I know some tracks could be interesting, such as the DK sumit on wii, where it seems not possible to avoid boxes before the canon, so having another racer in front of you to pick the box to clear the way could be a strat.
Beating the original skyward sword without having Fi talking to you. It was so annoying that it has been fixed in the HD version (you can mute Fi) maybe by getting out of bounds you can avoid Fi triggers
map the mouse movement to a wii balance board (meaning you have to aim with your feet and your weight distribution over the board) and beat a
sniper FPS game
Wow, you just created a speedrun category out of nowhere sheerly through spite of being told it was impossible, massive props
I'd imagine all the SIs make it speedrun averse. So not exactly. :v
@@AimlessSavant You underestimate speedrunners.
And I bet he changed the all bolts category, too
spite is the worlds best motivator
@@myria2834 that seems to be a running theme across many speedrunning categories and games. The hidden badass.
I love how challenges like this are usually "I tried to do this, got stuck, and speedrunners helped me", whereas here it's like "Speedrunners tried to do this, got stuck, and I helped them" XD
How the turns have tabled
This man got told by SPEEDRUNNERS that something was impossible.
His response? "Aight, bet"
this man said, hold my sleep watch this
@@possibear hold my donations and subs
The very existance of "cap" is in here
@@possibear po
True speedrunner mentality XD
really well made video. i think nathan doesnt go into detail how utterly insane his kerwan find is, the community had been trying to find this for YEARS, and this new random dude just comes in and casually throws groundbreaking shit onto us. respect dude, youre fucking insane at strathunting, i seriously cant believe you made kerwan possible
Thank you, I suppose it may have seemed casual, but that strat did take me a good week of trying for hours per day to find. I found even more weird little quirks on Kerwan as well, but none were relevant to the challenge 😅
@@NGPlusVideos next step is the poki skip ? :v
Oof, now we're talking major skips. It's gonna be done one of these days!
@@NGPlusVideos have you made a more detailed video on the odd finds? Would love to see it. I miss the days of exploring through exploits without modding the game as is fashion today.
@@larrypostma2866 Sorry for the late reply, I didn't make a video on anything else I found. They didn't result in much. It's mostly clipping into walls and floors in certain places. Plus certain parts of out of bounds roofs kill you if you stand on them which was odd 😅
That failsafe is truly amazing. Seeing things nobody would do being taken into account by the devs is great.
Finally a category that lets clank just relax and chill out
Yeah, Ratchet been slacking off lately 😒
I'm thinking the failsafe isn't in case you didn't buy the pack, rather it just equips the right pack for you so you don't have to stop in the climactic moment to change your pack.
Yeah, and I think they didn't care about checking if he have the truster Pack, because it should be impossible to get there without it.
@@AlryFireBlade Yeah there's a similar failsafe where Ratchet can travel into outer space without needing the O2 mask, simply because the game doesn't check if the player has the mask, assuming it would be impossible to reach the level without it (It was a randomizer mod)
@@mar_speedman yeah alot of the eariler Ratchet games just assumed you wouldn't be at that point of the game without it (although skipping 02 mask is impossible), like also in R&C 2, the game would assume you have upgraded the Heavy Lancer and use it on cutscenes regardless if you had or hadn't.
@@sonicthehedge It's impossible conventionally but you can skip it with a randomizer mod
I’ve been playing this game for 20 years and here you are showing me that my childhood dream is possible. I can’t tell you what this whole run means to me, thank you for your dedication and thank God for this wonderful community
Thanks a lot, I appreciate that. You tried this as a kid? Your ideas were ahead of their time!
I just realised something.
Normally, back in the days when the games were made and tested before shipping, they would test all sorts of movement and stuff to see if the game can handle it.
I am very sure all these new speedrun techniques were never tried back in the game testing phase.
What i am trying to say is that i am surprised that these glitches and tricks don't crash the game. Or put the game in a sort of loop out of which you cannot recover.
And this goes beyond R&C of course. So many games being speedrun these days, i watched many videos, i never seen any speedrun technique that crashed the game.
Makes you appreciate how sturdy the games were made.
I agree with you, however, there are a couple of times I've seen a speed runner explain that a certain trick is too fast and will crash the game. But considering it's only a couple of examples, you are right.
propap why its hard to find speedrun tricks that crash the game is bc glitch hunters dont tell about them bc there is no reason. there propaply are a lot that do crash the game, but only glitch hunters know about them.
the movement in the old RaC games is very fluid, and made to be like that, which plays a part in making a lot of the movement chains used in speedruns possible, as you can chain together momentum really well (see mid-air longjumps, where you cancel a sideflip with momentum into a longjump, those show how "forgiving" (for lack of a better term) the movement was coded)
though there is definitely a lot of sequence breaking / skipping stuff that one would expect to cause crashes, like using ratchet in a semi-dead state to infinitely longjump across a level at insane speed and skip a bossfight by just collecting the infobot behind a closed door
Why would they break the game? They ARE in the game, so they work, no reason why they'd break the game
The reason why the majority of glitches don't break the game is because most of the time it's just the game functioning according to the code it has, like how negative speed works in SMB64 giving you more speed just because you're still below a certain positive number, the code works, just not how the devs wanted
I wondered about the final boss; the failsafe thruster pack was more of miracle than beating kerwan
After all the effort put in before, it was like the game was throwing me a bone 😅
I doubt it's intended as a failsafe. It's probably just the devs auto equipping the Thruster Pack and just assuming you'd already have it, because why wouldn't you?
Yeah, must be
Ah, it might be auto-equipping the thruster pack in-case a player had the heli-pack equipped. Might have found out that it helps heli-pack loving players remember how the buttons work during testing, or maybe just since it spawns you into a timer and they didn't want fussing about in menus to ruin the tension.
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING THE SPEEDRUN ELITISTS SAID WAS IMPOSSIBLE!!!"
"Ha ha, lombax go jump"
Absolutely stunned by your dedication and perseverance, I genuinely do hope this video blows up, cause you deserve it so so much!
Thank you so much!! Just the motivation I need! Thanks for watching it all :D
Just stumbled on this video, I had no idea someone from outside the rac1 speedrunning was the one to find ng packless. Major props dude! The dedication is insane and I wanted to thank you for this major achivement (even though the category looks awful and I'll never run it lmao). Just going to add that it's actually possible to get those gold bolt packless without the PDA, the one on pokitaru requires divebomb which is a pretty tricky glitch where you get it while in the ship fight and the other ones can be reached through clips and movement pretty sure. Still insane video, good job and major props on the research!
You're right, a speed runner corrected me on that, so all 40 bolts can be obtained without pda or packs. All we need to do is figure out Veldin 2
I think the best part about this is that your name literally IS NGPlus, but the moment you see a speedrun that’s NGPlus only you decide to do it base game. lol
I mean i have to admire your thinking
Everyone: "Its impossible"
You: "Lets do it"
13:43 i just noticed that there were models of the last ship we obtain, imagine Ratchet taking one of them instead of the red Quark one
Those black ships are still some of the coolest ships in videogames
I loved this so much. The nonchalant way you deliver each line even though we can all tell how much love, dedication and skill you poured into this run.
Not to mention you did something never before done. You, _you_, are amazing. You did something nobody has been able to do in almost 20 years of trying. Bravo!
You're gonna make blush 😳 Thank you, couldn't have done it without the speed runners, some of them believed in me 😁
The reason you had the Thruster pack (TP) on Veldin 2 is likely because the boss fight was constructed early on in development, the same time the first part of Veldin was made (or the level where you obtained it wasn't made yet). So they were probably just testing the fight by giving Ratchet the TP and just didn't bother to remove it (as they figured the player would already have obtained it before the fight). Therefore, the player has it regardless of if they obtained it or not.
I think it's more likely that just in case you were using the Heli-pack and you preferred it. The devs didn't want you to pause the game and switch packs as to not ruin the tension as it happens in the middle of a long boss fight
@@sonicthehedgeYeah, that's a very plausible theory too.
You madlad, discovering new skips all on your own is an insane achievement, well done!
Massive props man, you essentially made an impossible speedrun category for this game possible! That's a huge achievement!
You don't need to use the thruster pack in the drek fight if you kill him fast enough, eg using the RYNO, which leaves the final button after the fight to press
You can't even begin to unlock the RYNO in RAC1 without NG+ sooo
@@AimlessSavant rilgar bolt glitch
@@Skrillfreak right, the oob glitch that requires the helipack.
@@AimlessSavantif he can get his way into the city, you only need to use the hologuise on boob lady and you can get into the hoverboard races ezpz
@@AimlessSavant I was able to do it. You just literally spend no money an any gold weapons, or ammo and grind collect bolts. I’ve done that one every R&C game.
I didn't think this one would be possible. I guess you should never underestimate what can be done in these games.
WHAAAT?! this is wild! every time I think this game has been explored to it's limits, someone new comes along and completely blows my mind!
Ooo, infinite side flips!
I've said this before and I'll keep saying it, because it keeps being true, but it's genuinely frigging amazing what you do and how you do it. Hats off to you for the skill to do these challenges, not to mention in making these videos, and the sheer perservence to not give up!
Thanks again, always appreciated 🙏
The ending boss battle gives you a reward, in the form of using the thruster pack, for clearing the whole game without one. That's why you can use it without it being in the inventroy. You've earned it.
I admire people that enjoy speedrunning. Time limits just piss me off, I like to take my time when playing. But I do enjoy watching others speedrunning.
The credits being broken was the cherry on top. That's how you know you won.
Even as a kid I didnt know the decoy glove was meant to distract enemies, I was screwing around with it and noticed I could use it to sometimes get extra jumps or use the decoys to clip through this and I got so used to just abusing the decoy glove I forgot it made decoys. Like, when was the last time you ever used it to distract an enemy to you could kill it? You would normally just hit it with a weapon anyways because damage. I dont have time to hotswap my gun, I wanna be running and blasten.
Im not a huge speedrun fan but i find myself loving all your videos and your dedication is second to none! cant wait to see more my guy, best of luck!
Thanks a lot, I'm a fan of watching speedruns, but not so much a fan of learning them. But I have found a love for playing the old Playstation Classics with an unusual twist. Any suggestions are all welcome as I always need ideas 😁
I love how i've watched three videos by you and in EVERY ONE OF THEM, the final boss is what destroys the run.
Ratchet ain't wasting any of his hard earned cash on a silly little robot he just met...
Congrats on all your hard work, You made the impossible possible!
0:19 ah yes packless… that also was the one that caught my attention😊
Nooooo don't be lonely :(
Great work. The amount of sheer energy that you spent to make this work is unphantomable. I think i can say it on the behalf of the RaC peeps : big GG!
Don't worry, I'm not lonely, the comments have all been great so far, and this was a family effort! Thank you for the GG and for watching all the way through :D
It's crazy how packs used to be such a big part of the series and now, in Rift Apart, you can't even high jump
Awesome video! Really really enjoy this format of videos! This + the Spyro video has definitely won yourself another subscriber.
The whole video I kept thinking about the final boss fight and the *situation* at the end, but wasn’t expecting the game to have such a fail safe.
You are SO underrated!! I absolutely love Ratchet & Clank, it seriously brings me joy to see people still doing challenges! (I also saw your Spyro video) your videos are right up my alley! Subscribed 😁
This was awesome! I really appreciate your editing and this was an entertaining playthrough to follow. Never thought it'd be possible from the lack of movement options at the beginning! Nice job!
finding out and finding a situation where you *need* that failsafe against drek is very impressive.
This was really cool and fun to watch, the amount of patience you have is unimaginable, love the video! Definitely subscribing!
I appreciate that this challenge was uploaded to a RUclips channel called NGPlus
I’ve been playing these games for 20 years and they are my favourite games to date, I don’t do speed runs but I absolutely love seeing your videos and learning something new every video. Fantastic job like always!
Watching you break my favorite childhood games gives me butterflies in my stomach.
This is impressive! I was constantly intrigued with how you bypassed some of the game's obstacles with tons of glitches. Never imagined this would be possible until now, so glad youtube decided to recommend me this video lol
They say the Hutts are highly resistant to Jedi mind tricks due to them just being that stubborn. But i think you fall into that category too. Did a whole run through in this manner because they said it couldn't be done.
I don’t care about spoilers of the game because I never played the game and just love your videos of challenges of it
if you used a European PS3 copy of the game, yes, it's possible, just do all the tricks you did in the run and use the tesla claw on Drek and MELT his health bar before the timer runs out, the final button press is the ONLY thing you'd need to do
They say that necessity is the mother of invention. well I say that obstinate refusal to accept something is impossible is the mother of new strategies, in speedrunning and in life
Wow, this was amazing. I appreciate all the effort that went into this. I was wondering the whole video how you'll get past the final boss. Didn't expect the game to be so generous lol
The dedication is unmatched great video man!
Thanks a lot, I just knew there had to be a way to beat it without Packs 😀
It’s good to see OGs still enjoying the classics
wow. just amazing. the amount of dedication and patience you must have to do this is incredible. immediately subscribed!
Absolutely fantastic work. Your strat hunting intuition is top class.
Much higher quality than I anticipated! Liked and subbed 👍
Whenever I find interesting videos about this masterpiece of a game I get flooded with excitement and nostalgia, I enjoy watching these so much. And so worth the sub btw
Thank you, I am attempting a RaC2 challenge as well :)
@@NGPlusVideos 👀👀👀
WOW!! Good job! I'm a big fan of R&C; Grew up playing all of them. My first reaction to your challenge was "nope" because of the final boss fight but that built in fail safe blew me away lol!
I.love watching your videos- your persistence and perseverance is awesome and your narration is so entertaining!
"What's up, Fuzzball? I see you're trying to do an impossible challenge. Uh, what, uh, what the fuck, actually?"
Man I love watching challenge videos on RUclips and you have a nice take on them! Just got yourself a new sub keep up all the good work looking forward to watching more videos from you!
These challenge runs are so well done. I hope more people see them! I've watched a couple, and so far the Metal Gear Solid one is my favorite.
I played this game since it came out and apparently I have no idea how the game even works. The stuff and areas you find is crazy
i love that he never got to upgrade the ship🤣
If nothing else, I hope your videos helps change speedrunners frame of mind a little. Let's not be so hasty to call something impossible. Maybe all we need is a new set of eyes looking at things with a different perspective and a healthy amount of perserverance to discover totally new things!
Keep up the great work!
22:14
I probably wasn’t paying attention but that’s the first time I noticed the PCSX2 save/load text. Love that program. I got it literally so I could play ratchet and clank.😂
I've always been impressed with self-imposed challenges/challenge runs, especially ones that seem like they're impossible. This one really impressed me a lot! You even ended up creating a literal new speed run category for this game! Big props for not giving up on this challenge even when speed runners told you it was impossible!
Oh geez, I thought I already had subbed. This is top notch stuff mate, keep it up!
Another awesome video! I can't wait to see what you come up with in the future. On a side note, I still feel that game companies should use speed runners as beta testers for their games as they seem to find all kinds of unintended bugs post release 😀
Speed runners/glitch hunters could finally make a living off their efforts too. Thanks again 😁
I think the only problem is that speed running contains a lot of building off of each others work. I mean, if you look at portal, new discoveries are made seemingly at random. Even here, years after the release new things come into play, so it wouldn’t really work to have certain speed runners test the game out. I also feel obligated to mention that people normally dedicate themselves to a game, with hours upon hours of practice to pull off skips consistently
Fun fact: QA actually does tend to find most if not every bug that exists in a post-release game, but producers do not usually task devs with fixing bugs that don't halt gameplay and/or will not be seen by the vast majority of players (unless there's still time and budget to do so after all of the important bugs are fixed).
Of course, this only really applies if there is a normal amount of QA involved in the dev process, which may not be the case with RaC given that it has a history of being forced into crunch and short time windows.
Good stuff, I’m beyond impressed. Good on you for having such unrelenting perseverance!
Definitely got a new subscriber. That was a great challenge video. You even discovered new stuff while doing it which is insane.
Thank you, I appreciate it, I suppose I earned the title Strat Hunter now 😅
Keep up the good work and content. I have no doubt you’re going to be a big channel one day! Effort is always rewarded
I used to speedrun ratchet and clank 1 just for fun but i never knew you could complete the game without any back pack. This was a very interesting video!
DUDE! About 2 years ago I tried packless as well and got stuck on Kerman. I figured out how to glitch out of Al’s shop but I couldn’t figure a way beyond that. I knew it WAS possible. Just extremely hard. It’s so amazing to see someone actually figure it out
Thanks for putting in the time and effort to figure this stuff out and make a video. It was very enjoyable to watch and congrats on overcoming this challenge
Thanks a lot, it's what I do. I'm glad it was enjoyable, and I hope to improve as I go too :D
I subscribed since I enjoyed this video concept and execution. Keep up the good work and you will get more subscribers.
The amount of subs you have is criminal
Thank you so much! Considering we had less than 200 Subs before November, the fact that we have gone up over 1,300 Subs in a month and a half is insane to us, and we still can't quite believe it. Suddenly there's pressure to make sure the 6th video is good!
watched a couple of videos and i think this is the craziest. "Proving" or showing the speedrun community that it can be done in a new game. Madlad...
As someone who has played the original RaC trilogy many, many times and knew about the button to finish Drek's fight I am very impressed. Take your win sir, it's well deserved.
Congrats on creating a new goddamn speedrun category for R&C.
I just found this channel and I already know I’ll see you at 1 mil one day. Keep up the good work
Newer subscriber, this video definitely earned a sub. Great run! It was awesome to see s twist on a game I loved as a kid!
Absolute masterpiece of a video Well edited Well written and Well performed you have my respect for your hardwork sir
"You see, this part requires a helipack...... so I just clipped through the wall"
You can actually beat Drek without hitting the button if you destroy him quickly with the Ryno. 👌🏻
I can't believe after all of that a button was the one thing stopping you from a pure packless run
Thanks for this seeing the impossible done is always a great thing!
Congratulations for the wr of the first packless ever
Another great video! This channel needs to blow up soon.
I appreciate you saying that, I'm just happy that we hit 100 Subs! Thank you for the kind words :D
DUDE!!! this was sick 😁 keep up the great work
Thanks a lot! It might be a new favourite video 😁
Take alot of pride in this video... Well edited, well scripted, I was smiling the whole way through this one 😁
Oh boy, what a journey ^^
grats on completing this challenge.
I like to address this one part at 12:58
you don’t need to go through the OoB just go to the boss fight, what you don’t know is that if you try to jump and grab a ledge while you’re in the water, you can’t grab it. But due to water Physics, if you stop where you at, jump out of the water and wait for half a second the water gain a little height and by the time you jump again, you will grab a ledge. So basically you don’t need the heil-pack. It’s the height momentum.
"Thats impossible"
"Aight, Bet"
great vid man keep up the good work patience is always rewarded
Thanks, you're right there, Kerwan was a very big test of patience 👍
20:34 Who does Ratchet think he is, Batman? Because Batman can breathe in space.
Great effort man, love the content. New sub here
this has become one of my favorite channels virtually overnight. awesome content man, thanks!
Well I don't know what to say. Thanks a lot for that 😅
@@NGPlusVideos no problem. Love the challenge runs. Mgs is my favorite series so the no steps run video was awesome for me, would love to see something just as off the wall for mgs 2, that's my favorite in the series.
fucking incredible, like i saw a unicorn in the middle of a battlefield, wow, incredible,this game was my childhood
I remember beating R&C without buying any weapons, but without buying any packs is just insane... Defying the odds, being crafty and sheer determination, incredible.
Awesome this must’ve took forever to figure this out def giving you a sub
I always wondered how speedrunners and glitch hunters find these skips. This was a fascinating look into the process
This maybe something need to be done and you did it by been the person who got the job done this is a massive respect you massively need it