Is Homosexuality Unnatural? - John Corvino

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2012
  • What does it mean when people call same-sex relations "unnatural," and why should that judgment matter anyway? Philosopher John Corvino takes apart this claim, demonstrating that, in the usual cases, it's empty rhetorical flourish.
    Dr. John Corvino, also known as the "Gay Moralist," is a writer, speaker, and philosophy professor at Wayne State University in Detroit. He is the co-author, with Maggie Gallagher, of the book Debating Same-Sex Marriage (Oxford Univ. Press, 2012).
    SPECIAL THANKS to "Son of Thunder" for the Arabic subtitles.
    Find the book here: amzn.to/ZuIrsl.
    Video by Chase Whiteside. Read more at JohnCorvino.com.

Комментарии • 1,9 тыс.

  •  11 лет назад +27

    "Lesbian seagulls. What, do they have like short haircuts and birkenstocks?"
    This kind of humour is gay men trademark.
    Love your videos!

  • @halicusnguyen8864
    @halicusnguyen8864 4 года назад +20

    the first thing is that camera quality holy crap, 8 years ago?

  • @markuscriticus8278
    @markuscriticus8278 8 лет назад +144

    It's always surprising to be reminded how many people still argue about immorality of something that doesn't hurt anyone.

    • @peteraschaffenburg1
      @peteraschaffenburg1 7 лет назад +30

      Oh..., It can hurt sometimes! But in a good way ;-)

    • @geofreyr
      @geofreyr 7 лет назад +14

      Because an act's morality is not predicated on whether it hurts another. Is it immoral for a person to have an incestuous relationship with their 10 year old child if that child consents to that relationship and is not harmed?

    • @ratonL
      @ratonL 7 лет назад +39

      geofreyr
      We wouldn't know if the child consented...kids are kind of dumb and gullible. It'd be like taking advantage of someone less advantaged intellectually, inherently unjust...

    • @geofreyr
      @geofreyr 7 лет назад +4

      Yes we would know if they consented, just like any other time we ask a child if they would like to, or not like to, do something. In the case of something related to a sexual act, then I do agree with you, up to a certain point like puberty. But this was not my point anyway, which was to demonstrate that the implicit morality of an action is not necessarily determined by whether it hurts someone.

    • @jameskennerley6308
      @jameskennerley6308 5 лет назад +36

      @@geofreyr - Another person morally equating a consensual romantic relationship between two adults with the sexual violation of a child. Stop. You're destroying your own intellectual credibility.

  • @TheRevScare
    @TheRevScare 10 лет назад +74

    Whether you personally find homosexuality distasteful or not, there is no denying that John Corvino provides one of the most coherent and compelling cases for why the practice is not deserving of censure.

    • @edwardladrera86
      @edwardladrera86 6 лет назад +4

      Agree.

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 9 месяцев назад +2

      No, his arguments are reddit tier.
      “If it fits its moral” come on John? Really that low?

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 8 месяцев назад +2

      @Tiddl3r holy crap, this is low
      Points out John’s terrible argument
      -> No, he’s Right!!! your Wrong!!!!!!!!
      4chan Troll!!!!!

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 8 месяцев назад +2

      @Tiddl3r zero arguements -> thinks I was arguing against being gay + Johns basically shoots himself

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 8 месяцев назад +1

      @Tiddl3r where TF did I compare it to murder?

  • @GluttonForSex
    @GluttonForSex 11 лет назад +66

    "The unnatural, that too is natural." -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
    Unnatural and natural are usually used as metaphors for "socially acceptable" and "socially unacceptable". The irony is that we humans like to pretend our definitions of what is right and wrong are inspired from something beyond, yet nature doesn't seem to care about that morality in the slightest, and always relentlessly keeps doing her thing without a care in the world. :-/

    • @methhead3140
      @methhead3140 2 года назад

      Nature has two sexes to further most species anything else is
      un nature or unnatural and non productive.

    • @edouardvuillard6324
      @edouardvuillard6324 Год назад

      Based.

    • @ae4159
      @ae4159 Год назад

      Nah brah. The concept of natural comes from Christianity, not from universal laws.
      People would never think like that if it wasn't rooted in Christianity and Christian culture, which even atheists rarely escape.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds Год назад +4

      I'm a Gay male...And I love my husband .

    • @Mojojojo335
      @Mojojojo335 Год назад +1

      @@dignerds I’m sorry to hear that

  • @Earth098
    @Earth098 7 лет назад +86

    Homosexuality or Same sex feeling: NOT a choice
    Homosexual activities: A choice, just like hetarosexual activities.
    Question for those who are against it: How can you ask homosexuals not to express their love, while you enjoying the full freedom to express your feelings. They are all hypocrites.

    • @guyanesehustla
      @guyanesehustla 6 лет назад +3

      Earth+ exactly!

    • @logans.butler285
      @logans.butler285 4 года назад +7

      I wish I had read your comment two years ago 😢

    • @Earth098
      @Earth098 4 года назад +5

      @@logans.butler285 At least now you have 🙂

    • @wilmerblom7996
      @wilmerblom7996 4 года назад +4

      Homosexuality is due to society.

    • @jozebutinar44
      @jozebutinar44 3 года назад +3

      It is a choice

  • @Marcomanexists
    @Marcomanexists 3 года назад +45

    I’m gonna tell my boyfriend “omg the parts don’t fit wanna go bowling” the next time he tries me 😂😂😭

  • @jacobcrabtree2030
    @jacobcrabtree2030 3 года назад +10

    This raised some valid counterpoints, but he kept flip-flopping between natural and moral and used ‘em interchangeably. They’re not the same thing.

    • @arcticwendigo2062
      @arcticwendigo2062 2 года назад

      Most people that would bring up the arguments against homosexuality that he mentioned follow the same ideas as Natural Law Theory, in which the words natural and moral are exactly the same thing.

  • @aliAkbarTV
    @aliAkbarTV 8 лет назад +55

    i am muslim but trust me you are a good thinker and got some great skills of understanding

    • @mukhtarbello9843
      @mukhtarbello9843 4 года назад +6

      subhaanallah bro wtf

    • @MikielAbdullah
      @MikielAbdullah 4 года назад +9

      @@mukhtarbello9843 I was just thinking the same thing. Allah is clear about this, the act of homosexuality (the people of lot) is haraam, and is subject to punishment in the blaze.
      If he wanted to have great thinking skills maybe he should not be encouraging things allah order the violent destruction of.

    • @rivvy2138
      @rivvy2138 4 года назад +5

      @@MikielAbdullah so you're saying everyone the dude in the video said is wrong or what?

    • @Hairysteed
      @Hairysteed 4 года назад +13

      @@rivvy2138 No he's saying he hates the fact that he's making such a good argument.
      But he doesn't live by reason or argument, he lives by dogma

    • @rivvy2138
      @rivvy2138 4 года назад +3

      @@Hairysteed exactly lol

  • @cartoondeathnoises8756
    @cartoondeathnoises8756 3 года назад +5

    That last little bit reminded me of a scene from Steven universe lmao. One of the characters was asked why she thought fusion was wrong and she literally went, "well, you know!" & did that ajdkamd

  • @kensington25
    @kensington25 11 лет назад +17

    Brilliant, sharp and crushes all anti-same sex marriage arguments.

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 9 месяцев назад +2

      More like slap them with a wet napkin
      “Not crush”

  • @JMoSa281294
    @JMoSa281294 11 лет назад +7

    "If you are doing it THIS way, you are doing it wrong"... That phrase killed me.

  • @jamiebirtles-crute963
    @jamiebirtles-crute963 10 лет назад +8

    Thanks for sticking up for us and a very well structured argument :-)

  • @lonelyspaghett6235
    @lonelyspaghett6235 6 лет назад +9

    The lesbian seagulls was just brilliant!

  • @GrinningCheshire42
    @GrinningCheshire42 11 лет назад +2

    But comparing an act that involves hurting other people for selfish reasons and an act by which love is promoted are two very different things.

  • @vorpal22
    @vorpal22 11 лет назад +3

    It's never been anything but freaking awesome for me.

  • @larryjones-emery807
    @larryjones-emery807 2 года назад +20

    Thank you. I wish I had been aware of your work years ago. I feel blessed to have learned of it even as an old man.

  • @Torribell24
    @Torribell24 11 лет назад +8

    You sir, are a god damn genius.

  • @PureAshlyn
    @PureAshlyn 10 лет назад +5

    I love the video and it's really a great way to combat every aspect of the argument.
    Plus the last part made me giggle.

  • @1DirectionVids
    @1DirectionVids 11 лет назад

    THIS IS AMAZING.

  • @wiaamkosoglu5351
    @wiaamkosoglu5351 10 лет назад +8

    I love you John

  • @SuperFan686
    @SuperFan686 11 лет назад +8

    I love this guy! All of the examples and counterarguments are so true!

  • @Maria-zs3by
    @Maria-zs3by 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this.

  • @hanschristianbrando5588
    @hanschristianbrando5588 8 месяцев назад +2

    Stop me if you've heard this one.
    An elderly woman was asked what she had against homosexuality. She fluffed her wig, adjusted her bifocals, ran her tongue across her dentures, stirred a little nondairy creamer into her decaf, turned up the AC, and placed one hand over her stent and the other hand on her plastic hip before finally answering "It isn't natural."

  • @radubradu
    @radubradu 11 лет назад +3

    looks AND brains; he won me over, i subscribed

  • @liamjd1
    @liamjd1 11 лет назад +3

    If it were unnatural then by definition it wouldn't happen.

  • @AroMaticOner
    @AroMaticOner 3 года назад +1

    He says at the end it’s a morality issue but frames the entire question as one of biology.

  • @jameswright4640
    @jameswright4640 3 года назад

    Loved the video. I wish that the people that wouldn't accept the ideas in this video were affected by things like logic, reason, compassion, empathy, &etc.

  • @JuggyFWB
    @JuggyFWB 11 лет назад +3

    You are awesome, John Corvino.

  • @themodernshoe2466
    @themodernshoe2466 9 лет назад +3

    Dude, awesome. Although I will say the effectiveness of your points on the similarities between sex for pleasure between a man and woman vs homosexual sex depends on who you're talking to -- if you're talking to someone who doesn't believe in any form of "sodomy" (I mean the older definition of the term, such as oral sex and sex for pleasure) and only believes that you should have sex to procreate, then that point will not work on them.
    Otherwise, you've outlined some of the most powerful arguments in defense of homosexual sex. Great video!

  • @Gruntus
    @Gruntus 11 лет назад

    What research is that? Would be interested in reading the journals myself. Know you can't link in youtube comments but journal references normally don't get blocked.

  • @cavalry0880
    @cavalry0880 3 года назад

    love it!!!! I dont care either way, but I am very happy to have heard this take on it.

  • @Uriel238
    @Uriel238 11 лет назад +4

    Q; What does lesbianism look like to these people?
    A: Hot.

  • @ThisCakeIsAPie
    @ThisCakeIsAPie 11 лет назад +3

    There is so much logic in this.

  • @airafluffles4688
    @airafluffles4688 10 лет назад +2

    Wonderful. ^w^

  • @pimpss88
    @pimpss88 11 лет назад

    you sir deserve a medal

  • @black7jesus
    @black7jesus 7 лет назад +64

    omg! I have never seen this side of you John! Hilarious! I see you almost everyday when I clean your office. I totally agree with what you said. How, we as a people can define what is natural and what isn't. The body is to be explored. and it's more beautiful when love is shared with someone you love, whether it's male or female. Our bodies are not made of just flesh and blood, but of energy as well. If we can just look pass genders, and see LOVE, we won't be so judgemental. Whether we like it or not, love will express itself in however it likes. Love doesn't know gender. The worse sin in the world is not allowing LOVE to LOVE. Great Vid John, looking forward in looking at more of your vids. I see you have wrote some books. looking forward in reading them. Have a great day and enjoy your vacation. Peace and Love.

    • @jadengrace_
      @jadengrace_ 3 года назад

      This made me cry, thank you for these beautiful words ❤️

    • @TakuMasaki01
      @TakuMasaki01 3 года назад +2

      So it's fine for adult siblings to make love to one another?

    • @captainsandwhich7469
      @captainsandwhich7469 2 года назад

      @@TakuMasaki01 Incest is banned because a lot about genetics and the risk of having your kids get horrible disease and illness. Also why won't I love my sister? Love isn't sex they aren't the same.

    • @butterjupitar
      @butterjupitar Год назад +1

      Then there is nothing wrong with bestiality, as you see, I'm using your own logic against you. Also, your sexual attraction is not love, that is also supporting p3dophilia, bestiality, etc...we were taught in English class that we shouldn't use the same word in its definition, so saying "love is love" is utter garbage. Our body is made for things that are physical, and our spirits are for things that are non-physical, s3x is not sharing your love with someone else, it comes from pleasure and s3xual desires, love comes from the spirit, you cannot see love but you can only feel love, it is *not always* about the presence of butterflies and warm spring, but it is also the feeling of pain when you've realized the truth after doing something wrong and accepting it afterward, knowing that that person wants to change you for the better, love doesn't accept what you do, instead, it offends you, it is strict and it will punish you and give you up to punishments so that in the future, you will realize that it was for your own good...love will never succumb to lust nor to emotions, it is true, it is warm and it is comforting but yet it is very strict.

  • @Earth098
    @Earth098 7 лет назад +16

    Nailed it. John Covino is one of my favorite speakers/writers.

  • @galainwilliams7636
    @galainwilliams7636 11 лет назад +2

    NAILED IT!

  • @kirinrex
    @kirinrex 11 лет назад +4

    Brilliant logic.

  • @AdamBlack
    @AdamBlack 11 лет назад +5

    That does work! ( finger poke )
    Its called docking and it feels wonderful.

  • @LtStJebus
    @LtStJebus 11 лет назад +29

    This video made me laugh. I agree fully; the arguments based on "it isn't natural" are simply absurd.
    Lesbian fist-bump!

  • @komoreteahouse7841
    @komoreteahouse7841 2 года назад +15

    Literally no one could’ve stated it better. he nailed every argument the homophobes had in 4 minutes. damn

    • @komoreteahouse7841
      @komoreteahouse7841 2 года назад +4

      @Kosher hm well I guess the dictionary says homophobe is a thing. also give me one ‘fact’ for why homosexuality is bad? (keep in mind facts are different to opinions)

    • @komoreteahouse7841
      @komoreteahouse7841 2 года назад +4

      @Kosher okay so in your opinion or maybe in your religion it’s a “depraved behaviour”, in mine it’s a lifestyle where you can have freedom to love who you love. “Contrary to nature and contrary to design”, did you watch the video? Rewatch it! Also what statistics say that being homosexual is harmful to everyone? People living freely in same sex relationships doesn’t negatively affect your life or freedoms what so ever! None of your “facts” are valid.

    • @mr.centrist5789
      @mr.centrist5789 2 года назад +5

      @Kosher Common sense, nature, and logic shows that it is NATURAL and therapists say it is NOT depraved. THAT is the fact. Why are you denying reality and logic?

    • @komoreteahouse7841
      @komoreteahouse7841 2 года назад +3

      @Kosher Firstly, you didn’t need a sentence dedicated to me saying “maybe in your religion” (that’s why I said maybe).
      Why do you think everyone thinks it’s “depraved universally”? I’m sure I, and many many others, don’t. And it is about loving each other, that’s how healthy relationships work! You stating homosexual relationships is depraved without giving any evidence, research or facts behind it, is not a strong argument whatsoever. I wouldn’t even call it an argument. It’s just you sharing your opinion with no evidence or reasoning behind it. No, not everyone knows it’s contrary to nature because it isn’t! The video explains this in depth.
      Reality is that some people (1/10 statistically) are gay and that we will live our lives in probably same sex relationships. So anything you say in these comments isn’t necessary or changing anyones opinions.
      I’m done with this discussion as you clearly still don’t understand the difference between opinions and facts.

    • @mr.centrist5789
      @mr.centrist5789 2 года назад +4

      @Kosher You are very biased. For nature shows that homosexuality is a natural part of the animal kingdom and by extension, humans. See how you are lying? And you are simply using God (who you do not know exists) to justify that bias. Dude get help. Yet again how is it immoral?

  • @kiranorazinnecker
    @kiranorazinnecker 7 лет назад +3

    thanks I need something to tell my parents who have reduced being gay only to sex

  • @Timaboo85
    @Timaboo85 10 лет назад +50

    I love the last little bit on lesbian sex had me laughing so hard I almost fell out of my chair

  • @ManuelRochaCR
    @ManuelRochaCR 7 лет назад +3

    I love this. John, you're coming to my college, I will certainly try to make room for your presentation.

  • @Deacon656
    @Deacon656 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks John, you're quite smart and able to simplify things in a way that makes sense to the non gay.

  • @scottpool4777
    @scottpool4777 4 года назад +10

    Absolutely positively yes I’m a bisexual person have been for 50 some years now. DNA that’s right exactly very good sir I commend you.

    • @mrpip1179
      @mrpip1179 3 года назад +2

      @Suck Maballs When you think about it the Bible is a fan fiction of a fan fiction of some old fairy tales which is just sad.

    • @dmnemaine
      @dmnemaine 3 года назад

      @Barry Bonds The "not the real me" was the pretend straight conservative evangelical I desperately tried to be until I was 32. All along, I knew what the real me was. It just took that long for me to acknowledge and accept the real me. My teenage and young adult years were the deceptive portion of my life.

  • @rooflez00
    @rooflez00 3 года назад +4

    WHY AM I JUST NOW FINDING THIS?! This is literally amazing, I love how you’re completely debunking all of their arguments, this is honestly the funkiest thing I’ve seen in my life lmaoo, keep it up

  • @YoshivsJustice
    @YoshivsJustice 11 лет назад +4

    I love this guy!

  • @SaruCharmed
    @SaruCharmed 11 лет назад

    Subscribing after seeing this one video alone.

  • @wynja77
    @wynja77 11 лет назад +32

    You, my good sir, is just amazing. This video is pure gold. Thank you for giving me more and better arguments, because sometimes, when I hear a homophobic remark, I just get stumped, and being quiet, to me, is agreeing. So thank you again for giving me the tools to be a better person.

    • @wacogliderman9396
      @wacogliderman9396 2 года назад

      You get stumped because there is no defense you sick bastard

  • @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG
    @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG 2 года назад +3

    Nobody ever said alarm clocks and plumbing were natural. Tell me, if our purpose isn't to procreate, what is it?

    • @ezrazentor7725
      @ezrazentor7725 2 года назад +5

      Being gay is natural

    • @cloroxbleach3809
      @cloroxbleach3809 2 года назад +2

      @@ezrazentor7725 nope

    • @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG
      @EmeraldPixelGamingEPG 2 года назад +1

      @@ezrazentor7725 You haven't answered the question. Therefore, It remains officially unnatural.

    • @ezrazentor7725
      @ezrazentor7725 2 года назад +1

      @@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG exist

    • @ezrazentor7725
      @ezrazentor7725 2 года назад +1

      @@EmeraldPixelGamingEPG did yknow animals and insects have been observed to be gay

  • @KevOSMusic
    @KevOSMusic 10 лет назад +1

    What's your reason for it not to be accepted? No harm is caused. Actually, it's healthier to be honest about one's sexuality & to express it in a positive way.
    Positive being two consenting adults.

  • @juanmorell4884
    @juanmorell4884 11 лет назад +1

    Couldn't have said it better myself. Perfectly put and presented, well done.

  • @renegade4life89
    @renegade4life89 11 лет назад +4

    Thank you for your excellent videos my friend. They are a joy to watch.

  • @aniforprez
    @aniforprez 11 лет назад +32

    this was smart, thought provoking, and most importantly, freaking hilarious. nice way of getting your simple point across against simple-minded fools.

    • @jonathanisrael1707
      @jonathanisrael1707 2 года назад +1

      Let go of your superiority complex if you want to succeed in life. You think you're smarter than other people but fail to understand the basics of the human kind. There isn't any deep meaning beyond. A dick isn't supposed to go inside of an ass.

    • @aniforprez
      @aniforprez 2 года назад

      @@jonathanisrael1707 if it isn't "supposed to" why does it feel so good? who decides what isn't "supposed to" and what is "supposed to" when it doesn't hurt anybody and two people are in love or just want to have fun? if this isn't "supposed to be" then i'd say your head shouldn't be in your ass either

    • @thepossessor
      @thepossessor 2 года назад

      @@aniforprez who decides? Well just look at how our bodies are designed, a penis goes into a vagina not the anus, the anus is meant for things coming out not going in. And just because it feels good doesn't make it right!
      Also frequent penetration of the anal gland leads to leakage and looseness

    • @jacobaurelus2379
      @jacobaurelus2379 2 года назад +4

      a lot of those arguments could have been flipped back on him

    • @joshcruise8028
      @joshcruise8028 2 года назад

      @@thepossessor ha ha what a argument but many times straight people do more strange things just for fun like cock sucking which can't be said natural,it could lead serious deseases but people do it just for having fun. No one is actually clean in sex both , heterosexual and homosexual'. But it has been seen that straight people try to become more creative in sex .

  • @matts446
    @matts446 6 лет назад +2

    what the heck are you talking about. by natural we dot mean having to do with trees, and dirt and flowers. it refers to the nature of something. It is in the nature of a rock to sink if it is thrown into a lake, it is in the nature of a wolf to hunt in packs, etc etc. So you examples of setting an alarm clock and and watching you on a computer screen is just strange. Try again.

  • @aspenfallen
    @aspenfallen 11 лет назад

    This is the best one of the entire series! Well done, good sir!!! XD

  • @kev7978
    @kev7978 11 лет назад +3

    And how does that harm the society?

    • @dearvermin
      @dearvermin 2 года назад

      @ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ㅤ ٴ But we are overpopulated in some countries so it would be unlikely that we would go extinct from some people that dont make up a lot of humanity.
      Gay people who want children sometimes adopt children which is good.
      And I guess millennials risk humans going extinct because there is a rise in them adopting pets instead of having children. 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @sasuke34690
    @sasuke34690 10 лет назад +2

    It kinda saddens me,that some of us can`t accept that we all may not feel the same way about homosexuality or same sex marriage. In the U.S it`s like if one is against the issue it seems, your branded as a outlaw or something. PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!.

  • @SandBox86
    @SandBox86 2 года назад +2

    LOL as soon as we wrinkled all his face while saying "some say it's unnnatural".. I knew he was still gaping. 😂

  • @leighbesstoad
    @leighbesstoad 11 лет назад +2

    John - absolutely brilliant. But especially the "lesbian sea gulls. What do they have? Short hair and birkenstocks?" Thanks a lot.

  • @toltschin
    @toltschin 11 лет назад +5

    Superbly done John! It's amazing how simple it all really is. (Well, except those who have chosen to live buried in ancient myths of power - as always just as powerless as yesterday and damn does it make them mad!).

  • @btwn
    @btwn 11 лет назад +6

    I am convinced

  • @Aanthanur
    @Aanthanur 11 лет назад

    nice video :)

  • @KevOSMusic
    @KevOSMusic 10 лет назад

    Apologies. Sometimes I forget to look before I post.

  • @williamr.lacerda8848
    @williamr.lacerda8848 4 года назад +7

    John Corvino is a superb never-seen-before mediatic phenomenon deserving a criterious sense of psychology. His unparallelled expertise in sophistry is stounding. Sometimes he stands out as a stand-up comedian philosophing sophisms like a quick juggler entertaining adolescent psyches, sometimes he captivates even his enemies with a sense of exquisite, shocking serenpendity. He reflects perfectly and brilliantly the reality not only of the transmediatic society, but also of the post-most modern collective mind of masses and the core spirit of our times. His aura is magnetic and charismatic. He has designed himself to excel himself in such a most perfect balance between mediatic appeals and ideologies that seems pure artificial intelligence mirroring the matrix of the New Order.
    Anatomy is something common between us and animals. It speaks for itself.
    Can you tell me why I am drawn by professor John Corvino? I like to freeze his videos only to see his A.I.-like phisiognomy.
    He is... so surreal...!
    Who besides only professor John Corvino represents so exactly the core of tertiary education and its ongoing now-future? He seems to be self-designed and designed for these times.
    I can't believe this is happening! Tell me: Is this for real?
    Hitler reborn? What would this look like today? Hitler would instantly discern and respond adequately to the present zeitgeist. He would not come again to kill like a Caesar. He would be much more like a developed emperor Constantine. No. He would be like John Corvino: redeemer, consoler, cajoler, sophistic, mass-oracular, transmediatically sex appealing, sexologist, physically fit, ventriloquistically eloquent, self-designed, yes-no philosophically ambiguous, people-oriented, charismatic, gay friendly, etc... John Corvino is the ideal antichrist because he alleges to be a follower of Christ while simultaneously he discontrues what Jesus preached, Jesus' God Father's values and Jesus' character by substituting the gospel for transmediatic mass ideologies. Ideologies have been largely used as a narcissistic ethical falacious embelishment make-up.
    The luciferian spirit of Hitler would come not killing Jews and throwing christians into the furnaces. He would create such an ideological and political pressure that the social context would directly and indirectly force you to deny your faith to be politically correct and sociologically acceptable. The new present Collesium doesn't have real lions today. They have an invisible unimaginable power to make you compromise your faith with silence, omission, post-modern transmediatic ethical appropriacy, etc, by making you hide your witness of the Light of the gospel behind ideological gospel fashions, media-appealing gospel fashions, icons, symbols, popular world-friendly novelties. This is the 666. Alhtough the chip is also a yield of this commercial transmediatic ideological narcissistic anthropocentric culture worldwide. It appeals to the beast more than to the spirit in us. It has to do directly with an immediate fusing intimate contact with the earth and its material and physical commercial reality than something ethereal and transcendent, unless it is "indigo vogue" also appealing to mystical narcissism anyway.
    John Corvino is an ideological pseudo-philophical superbly sophistic ventriloquist of the social mass media's ideo-narcissistic appeal, a stand-up comedian appealing to sarcasm within that mean and wicked corner of the minds of the masses, a quick thought-juggler entertaining adolescent psyches, and that's something that translates exactly what education and politics these last days mean.
    John Corvino is selling himself very well, and his price is 666... The beast emerges from the masses... People are buying his ideas euphorically. The zeitgeist of the times!

    • @wowlukewalker
      @wowlukewalker 3 года назад +2

      If an absence of prejudice is a sign of someone being the antichrist to you then that is very concerning. I wish you the best.

    • @not_averge
      @not_averge Год назад

      If making a logical argument makes you the antichrist...
      I don't even know what to say

    • @Nobodieslistening123
      @Nobodieslistening123 Год назад

      Yes John John is satans son
      I could not have said it better!
      He fits in the twisted perve pod perfectly!

    • @carved6749
      @carved6749 10 месяцев назад

      Dude he literally Strawmanned the opposition for 4:14 seconds this guy isn’t a superb Genius, he just did what any retard with a mic can do.

    • @Iamthatis137
      @Iamthatis137 7 месяцев назад

      First of all, I want to say I respect you as a person because I strive to show all people respect. I am going after what you communicated and how you did so; not you as an individual.
      Just because you use big and uncommon and philosophical words doesn’t make your claim valid. And I “love” this mentality of certain Christians. It’s not in the Bible. It’s a product of the culture wars that have plagued us for the past few decades and just keep ramping up. It was popularized by The Left Behind series. The Antichrist appeals/will appeal to people who want to follow Christ and the Bible and does/will preach and appeal to those people and their sensibilities and beliefs. So it’s more likely the Antichrist would be conservative and traditionalist and authoritarian and exclusivist and hypocritically claim to follow Christ and God and The Bible….like most Evangelical Christians. You saying that if Hitler was born and alive during this period would be completely different and aligned with leftist worldviews is just so… idk.. convoluted? Misguided? Wrong on so many levels… There are currently so many Nazis and people who believe the same things or think in similar ways without even realizing it. Also Hitler being who he was and doing what he did is super complex. You are reducing it to this contemporary idea of the Antichrist being secular and accepting and inclusive and loving before he “bears his fangs”. This notion of the Antichrist (opposite of Christ Jesus) being charismatic and accepting and tolerant and inclusive and “liberal”, basically, just serves to make conservative Christians feel superior to everyone else and justified in their close-mindedness, rigidity, and desire to take over society. I am not saying being conservative is bad and being liberal is good. Why do these divisions exist at all? The Jesus in the Bible may not line up perfectly with modern progressivism, (because what even are these categories?) but He did demonstrate inclusivity and acceptance of diversity and judged those who were authoritarian, exclusivist, rigid in their thinking and overly concerned with things like financial profit and even getting into Heaven or being universally rewarded somehow. It’s about ever-growing wisdom and unconditional love. Soooo… Not only is this concept and respective worldview misguided, it is anti-Christian. One could say it’s AntiChrist…

  • @zubankesari7464
    @zubankesari7464 2 года назад +4

    By using the logic of this video
    Cancer is also the natural way of things as we all do a lot of unnatural things by using modern technologies.

    • @vardets1032
      @vardets1032 2 года назад +2

      after that logic everything applies to str8ts also

  • @Pundit2k
    @Pundit2k 11 лет назад

    This ends the debate.

  • @marg1661
    @marg1661 4 года назад +1

    I LOOOOVE THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Eltoca21
    @Eltoca21 11 лет назад +3

    I have thoroughly enjoyed all 9 of these videos...

  • @IAmAleksha
    @IAmAleksha 10 лет назад +3

    Absolutely fucking right

  • @October31st1517
    @October31st1517 2 года назад +1

    Have you ever debated someone on the opposing side on a scholarly level?

    • @terrificpage347
      @terrificpage347 2 года назад

      No cuz they don't exist

    • @October31st1517
      @October31st1517 2 года назад +1

      @@terrificpage347 Just like the left. Insults and no facts.

  • @ChrisJI89
    @ChrisJI89 11 лет назад

    well said, probably the most thoughtful and well delivered pro-homosexuality argument I've heard

  • @lifeisshort6295
    @lifeisshort6295 4 года назад +4

    male and female are built for each other

    • @Sammie551
      @Sammie551 3 года назад

      First prove that they're built
      Secondly, just because someone offered you a stone gift, doesn't mean you want it
      Thirdly, how are they built for each other?

    • @Sammie551
      @Sammie551 3 года назад

      @@mwnl9096 There is no evidence for evolution, I actually study it, so tell me how there isn't?

    • @lifeisshort6295
      @lifeisshort6295 3 года назад +2

      @@Sammie551 built for each other meaning it's our nature

    • @Sammie551
      @Sammie551 3 года назад

      @@lifeisshort6295 How is it our nature though? That's what I was trying to figure out, you're just begging the question

    • @lifeisshort6295
      @lifeisshort6295 3 года назад +2

      @@Sammie551 give me your discord tag or whatever

  • @plato12000
    @plato12000 7 лет назад +4

    While John's videos are always informative and thought provoking, I enjoyed the touches of HUMOUR in this one. It's another reason to return!

    • @Gantaipao
      @Gantaipao 4 года назад +2

      Such a mature person. Comes up with "Gay Jesus" out of all name you could choose.

    • @TFfan75
      @TFfan75 4 года назад +1

      Whats so porocotiv about it? Unless you have narrow religious mindsett.

  • @janetmiller6611
    @janetmiller6611 11 лет назад

    Wow that was Fantastic ! You Rock ! God bless you !!!!! When hetero marriage is so short lived these days, there really is no reason same sex marriage should be embraced. Thank you, J. ;-)

  • @iamsohanurrahman369
    @iamsohanurrahman369 4 года назад +2

    O my John. You're damn intelligent.
    How are you doing nowadays?

  • @JohnHaugeland
    @JohnHaugeland 3 года назад +3

    respectfully sir i pick fresh organic pesticide free alarm clocks straight from the tree and that is 100% natural
    i agree with the rest

  • @sgilks11
    @sgilks11 11 лет назад +4

    This is perfect. Absolutely perfect. Hilarious, intelligent, just yes!

  • @ourorboros2
    @ourorboros2 10 лет назад +1

    "homosexuality are unnatural"
    you typed this comment on an plastic box of captured light powered by harnessed lightning.

  • @cjb1962
    @cjb1962 11 лет назад

    Very well said.

  • @xTHHxAimiForevr
    @xTHHxAimiForevr 10 лет назад +2

    When you chemically decrease an organism's propensity to reproduce (not take away its ability, but decrease its propensity), what happens to that organism in regards to its need to promote its genetic makeup? For example, how far would mankind have gotten if it didn't "enjoy" reproduction with the opposing sex that can directly bear its offspring? Better yet, what if for some reason that opposing sex couldn't bear it children at all? The very result of this is in opposition to the continuous goal of any life form:
    "Organisms undergo metabolism, maintain homeostasis, possess a capacity to grow, respond to stimuli, reproduce, and through natural selection, adapt to their environment in successive generations."
    How readily can a life form include itself in successive generations if it doesn't favor mating with the sex that produces offspring?
    >>> It can enjoy mating with the same sex, but if it opposes mating with the opposite sex then it ultimately possess a trait that doesn't agree with a sustainable process. And if that sustainable process is one that more than 90% of the 'other organisms' chemically abide by, then it can effectively be seen as not normal with respect to progressive, successive, and sustainable life traits.

    • @xTHHxAimiForevr
      @xTHHxAimiForevr 10 лет назад +1

      Also the scientific argument is not to be made within the societal ideals of morality or "perceptual use of parts". The argument to be had is within what chemically motivates 1 organism out of 1000 others in the same species to be born and not desire (not be incapable of) reproduction in the sense of propagating its genetic traits? If I saw this I would definitely be curious, I would not simply say "what does it matter anyways?". It's not interesting when it's defined as a choice or lifestyle. It is interesting because for a fact, it is NOT a choice or lifestyle. What John does in the video is define naturalness with respect to the variable of human application and perception and not with respect to definitive biological continuity. With continuity being the general causes of organic matter's need to keep itself chemically adaptive without a dependency on crafted tools and distinct man-made applications.
      He also talks about pursuit of aims and "unfairness". What he doesn't say is that one aim is chemically instinctive while the others are not. People used to force homosexual men to have sex with women in order to "cure" them. Which is cruel and moronic. Not once did they think of how equally cruel it would have been to force a straight man to have sex with another man. This shows how it is not a choice, but here's the point in regards to John's "many uses" reasoning in the video. Yes the mouth has many uses. Sing, lick envelopes, talk, etc. But out of all those uses, breathing and eating are the ones that possess the main means to making sure the human race continues. What if, despite of ALL those uses, I am born with something that makes me not want to breathe and eat? Not that I can't breathe or can't eat. But that makes me not WANT to breathe and eat? This is the trait homosexuality holds with regards to organic continuity as stated before. Out of all the multiple uses for the penis what is it that makes one not want to use it to reproduce with the opposing sex? You see a gay man may not like sex with women. A straight man may not like sex with women. But the fact that there's something chemically and innately driven within the gay man to the point that he finds the idea of it undesirable or even down right repulsive is really freakin' interesting scientifically speaking. At no time is this interest to be confused with religion or phobias. Who cares. This stuff is gold in regards to biological mysteries. One of which I'm hoping epigenetics can unravel.

  • @YT-pg9oq
    @YT-pg9oq Год назад +5

    Proud to be a homophobic .

    • @GavinAlexander.
      @GavinAlexander. Год назад +4

      You're clearly proud of having a low IQ as well.

    • @captainaryan26
      @captainaryan26 Год назад +1

      Same ❤

    • @stanbily9416
      @stanbily9416 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@GavinAlexander.😂😂😂 Right

    • @stanbily9416
      @stanbily9416 11 месяцев назад

      @@captainaryan26Okay, closeted Karen.

  • @jbarrettwolf
    @jbarrettwolf 11 лет назад

    Beautiful.

  • @kingpita172
    @kingpita172 11 лет назад

    Smart and hilarious. I applaud you, sir.

  • @raznfrats
    @raznfrats 11 лет назад +3

    I LOVE your videos! Such logic is refreshing! You are funny, too. ;-)

  • @i08237
    @i08237 11 лет назад +4

    sad that this video is nessecary.
    I especially like the part with the index fingers :D

  • @NathanAEnver
    @NathanAEnver Год назад +2

    the lesbian seagulls joke killed me 😂

  • @artistsComplex
    @artistsComplex 11 лет назад +2

    I love watching you talk, Mr. John Corvino. Thank you for these great videos!

  • @flynnd6516
    @flynnd6516 4 года назад +3

    Well, you ask me. Which type of relationship can't produce offspring?

  • @TheLivingHeiromartyr
    @TheLivingHeiromartyr 11 лет назад +3

    2:51.... just... just 2:51
    That cracked me up so hard XD I love this guy, presents exceptional arguments while being completely hilarious!

  • @walterygor
    @walterygor 11 лет назад +2

    After watching this video, I´m more convinced than ever that IT is unnatural.

  • @thejupiter2574
    @thejupiter2574 6 лет назад +2

    NOTE: One Most Important Comparison is that
    Think about all the straight people that can not conceive, do you now consider them to be 'unnatural' then? as well as all the straight people who use Artificial Insemination to have a child, that is considered unnatural.

  • @giuffre714
    @giuffre714 8 лет назад +3

    Is posting on RUclips unnatural?

    • @azazel166
      @azazel166 8 лет назад +1

      +Joe Giuffre It's just as unnatural as a Computer screen.
      G-O-D did not intent for raw materials to be used that way.

    • @giuffre714
      @giuffre714 8 лет назад +2

      A Ghost Without a Past Do you thinks he's impressed?

    • @giuffre714
      @giuffre714 8 лет назад

      A Ghost Without a Past Those exploding collars WOULD be an impressive use of our raw materials.

    • @captainsandwhich7469
      @captainsandwhich7469 2 года назад

      There is no fundamental law that prevents you from doing so

    • @giuffre714
      @giuffre714 2 года назад +1

      @@captainsandwhich7469
      You mean like flapping your arms to fly?

  • @emperorvinayak
    @emperorvinayak 11 лет назад +3

    Oh god!! This was soooo hilarious!!!
    Love this guy!

  • @Mastorn
    @Mastorn 11 лет назад +2

    Also sorry John for hijacking your comments section :p I'm a philosophy nerd and the use of the term "sophistry" when none is found really gets my goat. Also, to readers for forgetting to put some of my responses in the correct "reply" box.
    Thanks John for these excellent videos, and for the sense of humor and wit you bring to the table.

  • @baileycrawly
    @baileycrawly 3 года назад +1

    That was fantastic lol

  • @bresophil
    @bresophil 11 лет назад +4

    You, sir, are amazing. Subscribed.