Which of these cameras is best for you? Buy the SL2/200D on Amazon: help.tc/SL2 Buy the T7i/800D on Amazon: help.tc/T7i Buy the 77D on Amazon: help.tc/77D
The dreaded first camera decision. These cameras were new when I bought my first camera. I ended up narrowing it to the 77D and the Nikon D7200. I wanted the top LCD and full frame was too expensive. I liked the swivel touchscreen, UI of the LCD display, AF, and most importantly the ergonomics far better than Nikon. But the sturdier construction, weather sealing, pentaprism, better battery life, and most importantly extra SD slot sold me on the Nikon. Though, I wasn't really satisfied with the purchase for months due to me being attached to the Canon and being pressured by my Nikon owning friends. I found out I hated liveview on the LCD. And on a recent trip to Japan, I never desired to use anything other than the viewfinder. And as I used the camera more, I got pretty comfortable with the camera ergonomics. And since I mostly did still photographs of landscapes and such, I had no issues with the AF. Personally, I don't regret my decision, especially since I only had to change out the battery once in 2 weeks with about 2000 shots taken. In fact, I prefer the D7200 to the D7500 (which a friend got for the trip to upgrade his old D80).
I have the canon 77d and have had it for a few months. I'm 13 and into wildlife photography and for me, the 77d was a clear winner. I use it around 3 hours a day and 12 hours on the weekends, all my spare time goes into wildlife photography and filmmaking. If you are going to spend a lot of time using a camera for wildlife I would definitely say the 77d is great! P.s I saw the first fox cub of the year today!!!
Glad to hear that 77D is getting it's worth! Shoot everything, and shoot often. After all, taking photos is the most important part of being a photographer, you know? It seems like so many people forget that 10K in gear on the shelf is pretty useless by comparison to 1K in gear with 10K in photos. If you have place we can see you work, I would like to.
Kevin Diaz I'm actually in the process of organising everything to set myself up, e.g. a website and an informal wildlife series! I have not been active on my social medias such as instagram and youtube, but once I am active again you can see lots of the wildlife pictures I've been taking! I have not got the best pictures of the fox yet, but hopefully with persistence I will! The fox is getting used to me and comes just over three metres away from me and I'm so happy that she trusted me with her cub in the field - she was fully aware that I was there! Have a great day! If you would like to see my pictures in the future you can see them on my instagram: __elizaburton__ I will also be posting videos on this channel after my exams finish!! Have a great day everyone!
I'm giving this a thumbs up simply becasue it is a youtube photography video that isn't about Sony for a change. I can't even imagine the troll comments you are going to get from it. I'm trying to fight the urge to look, but it's like a car wreck, you can't help but to look. I'm glad for Sony users, they are really changing the game. But man, they are quickly becoming the most annoying group out there. Overly concentrated on specs alone, and no one wants to talk about any other aspect of the game. There is so much more to making a great photo than dynamic range; the specs matter less and less with each generation of camera, and not everyone wants to spend 2K on a camera that doesn't have it's own native affordable lens options. A beginner can grab the SL2 or T7i, the 50mm F1.8, the 55-250mm IS STM, the 10-18mm IS STM, and the 24mm F2.8. With that kit they can take a wide range of great photos, and not even clear 1500 USD. For a great many shooters that kit would be all they ever need. This is why Canon is still top market shareholder, because they know that not everyone needs to be the next Ansel Adams, David LaChapelle, or Annie Leibovitz, or even Tony/Chelsea Northrup for that matter (love your work). Some people jsut want something that will work well for the money they paid, and any of those cameras can do that. Just about any modern camera can.
Bing Zhao there is some truth there, my 5Ds and six lenses I bought for it I bought used, for half or less of the new prices. Clearly, I stand to lose less by depreciation than the previous owners.
I bought a T7i a little over a year ago and have been pleased with it. I needed a backup and second video camera so I bought the 77D a couple of months ago. I do like the extra features of the 77D. Interestingly, the 77D was $50 cheaper than the T7i when I bought it on Amazon. The price on the 77D has since gone back up to $100 more than the T7i. For once, I guess I bought it at just the right time.
I bought the SL2/200D specifically for making videos with the Yelangu S60T steadicam stabiliser (~USD$50) and the combination does a great job. I also own the 80D for wildlife photography. The SL2/200D is even more portable.
Basically one can't buy a bad camera today, but I think the comparison between these three specially shows how Canon lost it's Mojo because of intentionally crippling their cameras due to their weird product policy/strategy.
That is the camera I suggest more than any other as a first DSLR. Good features, a guided menu, simple enough to learn on but will still be relevant after the basics are mastered. Also, if video is ever something you might want to do it kills the T6/T7 bas models. They don't have DPAF or silent STM focus support, the SL2 does.
Thanks for the advice. Can you test the JPG only buffering that Tony spoke about? I really want this as an upgrade to my ooooold 350D I got as a first camera....
If you shoot jpeg instead of raw, the buffer will hold out longer. I don't have one in hand to do a test, but according to some research you should be able to get 20+ shots before the buffer fills out if using a fast enough memory card. That is just under 3 seconds. Not terrible, but still not the beast the 80D is for action. If you will be shooting a lot of burst shots, then the SL2 might be too weak. If it is only sometimes, and you are ok with JPEG, you can make it work.
@Ramon Scheepers I just tested with my SL2 and I stopped shooting after 60 shots of no buffering. I imagine it could have gone on for quite a while. This was with the largest jpeg size available( L 24MB 6000X4000)
Nice comparison. I was using a 77D that I bumbled upon at a pawn shop as my primary camera for my online sales business. I had it on a tripod and used live view with touch shutter for all of my shots. It was great. WiFi worked great and allowed me to not have a cord between the camera and my computer. Video worked great for product videos. I thought I was "wasting" the 77D, though, as it had so many nice features that I didn't use. I then bumbled upon an SL2 at a pawn shop and grabbed that for my online business. Perfect! WiFi is just as good or better, and since I don't care about the viewfinder since I use Live View, and I don't care about the missing dial on the back since I just use aperture priority and a small aperture to get good depth of field on my product, the SL2 does everything I need. Video is just as good. Now my 77D will become my vacation camera, bumping off an old SL1. The 77D has a nice viewfinder and I will make good use of the features I didn't use when it was on a tripod in my studio setup. I also have a spare battery since I have a battery-eliminator power supply for the SL2 that sits on a tripod, and the battery that came with it will go on vacation with me and the 77D.
Was hesitant of which to buy of these three, was considering the SL2 and 77D to update my old XTi, thanks to this video I ditched the SL2 idea and went with the T7i, 77D would not be my best fit. Thanks for the complete review.
Got the 200d as a backup and not a fan of the menu...really!! Prefer the old menu style, but I am sure that I will get used to it. It is an absolute bargain for what you get, even if it feels a bit plastic and the buttons are spongy, still a great camera.. Paid soooo much for my old 450D many years ago and now you get a lot of value with the new models and so light and small... brilliant for a beginner or even a backup camera, but I have seen some excellent images from this camera.. 5 stars for this video, I looked at some comparison charts for entry level cameras, but this video explains it way better....
Hey brotha, just wanted to let you know you can still get the old menu look on the SL2, just go into the 4th tab in the menu and you should see the option to use the classic style menu instead of the hand holdy graphic menu.
I bought the T7i before the SL2 was released and have been happy with it. For me, the 77D upgrades were too minor. Don’t care about top LCD when I have the fantastic color screen on back with the same info. And exposure comp on the T7i is easy enough, as Tony demonstrated. Bizarre, though: Tony’s links show the 77D body is actually $100 cheaper on Amazon (U.S.), at least at the time I’m writing this. In that case, I would get the 77D.
Very pragmatic review. I got the 800D, i am very happy with it. Unfortunately noise level is quite high ( thanks LR) And efs lenses are very good and so cheap... You will easily find Canon users around you, mint used lenses to buy...
Just to add that using live view you end up having a ton more metering zones and 80% of the sensor size is used as AF coverage area (which is a lot for action). Also, with a smartphone and Canon's camera connect app you don't need a remote trigger. Faced this dilema and ended up buying an SL2 with a 24mm pancake and I'm happy with what I'm achieving.
My SL2 is my first DSLR, and it's freaking awesome. it's true that the OVF is kinda primitive, but if you can focus and recompose you can easily get away with it. And the buffer running out only happens when shooting RAW, you only get those 5 frames, but if you are happy with the JPEG files straight outta camera you can shoot JPEGs and get tons of shots, I'm not sure how many cz I have never held the shutter for more than 5 seconds but you'll be just fine. This is not an action camera, as tony clearly said, but you can get amazing results with the Live View mode, autofocus is crazy good and composition wise it's awesome. You can get very creative with all the modes and functionalities of this tiny beast camera. it's awesome for video as well. This camera has everything if you're just getting started, awesome sensor, great capabilities, long-lasting battery, super user-friendly. What else can you ask for?
Really great summery of my favorite cameras. Awesome sound quality and great lighting. Consistent voice cadence was pleasant. Appreciated the lack of stuttering. Clear consistent points addressed in a timely fashion. I bought my wife the Canon EOS SL1. We are very pleased with it and intend on buying the Canon EOS SL2 for myself. I have been shooting videos and I love it!
Great Video Tony as always, one thing worth mentioning the 77d has digital image stabilization (not sure if the t7i does as well) but its been useful when shooting hand held video.
I love my SL2. I did get it to learn how to do DSLR video. But I did do some maternity photos of a family having a baby. The 5 fps was fine for that. Was able to capture some great shots, even tho thier young son didn't want to sit still. Anyway, I love the SL2. Wish Canon would come out with a camera tho, that would blow consumers away. Seems that they got too many in thier line that are similar. My favorite camera's right now...(even tho I can't afford them) Canon 1dx markii, and the Nikon D850. Dream cameras for me. Thanks for the vid. You two are great.
I would personally take a 5DSR over the 1DX mkII right now. Not that it isn't still great, I think other than it's high speed shooting and 4K video (and weatherproofing), the 5DSR is just a better system. One of the sharpest cameras out there. The D850 is sweet too, and in a world where things are starting to look more and more like mirrorless will take over, it might be the last truly great DSLR.
ItzYoBoySly I use the camera for taking awesome photos and cool videos. I take my canon sl2 camera with me when I go hiking (very light weight) and going on road trips to capture beautiful scenery and capture moments I spend with my family and friends. The camera is so easy to use and there is nothing that I can find that is bad about the camera
Rachel510126 hey Rachel! Would love to know how the SL2 does in low light? Is it bad? I’m planning on getting on. Will be the first dslr id own. Hopefully! 😁
@@shireenniloofar9027 Honestly, it's pretty darn good! You can set it on Auto mode and it does the job. You can also adjust it your self by switching the setting to Manual mode. What are you using the camera for?
Rachel510126 not anything professional. I’ve always loved taking pictures.. and I study in Chengdu, China which is a beautiful place. I wanted to take some good pictures of friends and the place. What about the battery tho? I saw another video where they said it can take only 400 pictures at a time?
I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. I know Tony did the break down already, but I feel it is much simpler. For video only, the SL2, and unless you need to shoot action the SL2 for stills. If shooting action more often or you jsut really want the 45 AF points the T7i, unless shooting in manual then the 77D for the added scroll wheel (but really at that point I would suggest looking for a good deal on the 80D instead for the added controls). They will all do good and are not that different in price. Though even the SL2 is above the budget of most people that ask me "what's a good camera for X dollars." X almost always is equal to or less than 500 USD. It's why I suggest the SL2 over the others so much, I know that price sells more than features to people that have never even used a camera before. That market is so much bigger than those that are sticking with it and upgrading for better features, and it's a lot easier to convince them to spend another 100 bucks for a better camera that will hold up longer than the base models.
I'm a street photographer. When I'm out and about taking pictures, I rarely use my full frame cameras. Most of the time I'm walking around with my SL2 and an EF 24-70L f/4 and a nifty-fifty. Why? It's lighter and it's the only one that has the DIGIC 7 processor that has the same sensor used by the 80D and a dynamic range greater than the 6DII.
I'm trying to decide what camera to get my girlfriend for Christmas. I'm torn between the SL2 & the T7i. The price difference is about $320 Canadian, so it's not exactly a small difference. This will be her first camera, so I know the SL2 is a good entry option but would it last her long enough before she out grows it? Also concerned about the SL2 ability to shoot things in motion and also in low light. Any input? Current prices for me: SL2: $580 / T7i: $899 - all in CDN
it's definitely the SL2. buy some cheap lenses like the 50mm 1.8 along with it from the leftover money you got, and the 10-18mm if you can find used ones. you'd buy her the fun of learning the situations and circumstances, uses of changing lenses. this is how i got my interest in photography, years ago. and ended up making a living from of it.
I’ve often wondered why Canon doesn’t base it’s full frame mirrorless on the 200d body shape. It’s compact and has the right flange distance so EF lenses will mount to it. Give it a full frame sensor, magnesium body and EVF, some weather sealing, a couple of extra dials etc and you could end up with a pretty decent setup.
Shane Doyle a mirrorless without proper short flange distance is a waste. A 50mm 0.95, manual focus only though, exists for mirrorless and its under1000bucks. ...if this was doable for dslr they would have done it, but no. Theres more like that, 9mm 2.8 apsc, Samyang 12mm f2 and some more
Having a catalog of a couple of hundred compatible lenses immediately available would probably ease the pain of the wasted extra 26mm over the Sony E-mount.
Shane Doyle no. I dont need couple hundred lenses. None of those is a 12mm f2 you know? Also no 10mm fullframe. 50mm 0.95 you can afford. Emount has most Kind of lenses youd want.
I'm a Sony shooter myself so anything Canon puts out is unlikely to change that. However, Canon have a squillion users out there that use the EF mount. If they go for something different there is a chance their customers will take the opportunity and jump systems as they will need new lenses anyway. Why risk that? The Canon SL2 (D200) is almost the exact same size as an A7iii, it takes EF lenses, it will hold a respectable size battery and it's a shape that current users are familiar with.
Shane Doyle Because anything else is a dumb product. If a mirrorless can work with Adapter lenses AS well. Hey. Its just a tube with electronic contacts. Shouldnt make a difference
You can get a 77D body cheaper than a T7i body. Apparently no one wanted to pay the extra money and most of these are probably going out the door as kits. For what it's worth I have a 77D. I like it, but there are a few things I wish it had such as AFMA and focus tracking adjustments as well. Weather sealing is nice but I can live with that risk for now. When the 90D or 7D mkIII shows up I'll probably upgrade.
Hi Tony&Chelsea, I went over to your tutorial link looking for hints on using the Panasonic G9 but I noted that you haven't managed to get around to doing it yet. Can you please tell me roughly when it will be completed, Thanks again, Alan..
I wouldn’t even bother with any of these old bodies. The M50 mirrorless is at a good deal now for under 700. I’ve actually been using mine more than my A7RII. Touch screen and focusing is great. Super easy camera to use. If anyone uses Live View most of the time, then a mirrorless is for you.
Great review! I have 5D4 but I also bought a SL2 for long hikes and travels. It makes a great pair with 10-18mm lens. I also like to pair it with the small pancake lens like 24mm, 40mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.8.
SL2 is a very useful little camera. I suggest it to first timers since I know it will take far longer to outgrow it than it will a T6/T7 base model. I always say "simple enough to learn on, but enough features to keep it useful long after you mastered the basics".
Hello! What body should I choose between: 1. Canon 77D 2. Canon SL3 (250D) 3. Other model?? I don't want to buy something second hand. I would like to buy brand new. In my country I can buy either of them for under 800$
A nice summation on this range of Canon cameras. I do have an unrelated question though: why haven't you guys reviewed the Pentax KP? Did I miss it? I thought about it because I didn't see the camera in your tutorial section. I thought it was kind of weird.
How would you say the SL2 stacks up against an older camera like the T5i? Isn't it basically a T5i with slightly better quality and dual pixel auto focus? I'm considering upgrading, and I'm thinking that I'd be totally fine with it. I love my T5i, the only thing I really want is Dual Pixel AF to be honest.
Have a quick question about vlogging with SL2/200D. I hear that most DSLRs stop recording after 10 minutes once the SD card creates a 4GB file. I want to know if I am shooting a video (in 1080p) longer than 10 minutes, can SL2/200D auto-create the 4 GB files? I know that GoPro does that. Thanks in advance.
T7i FOr me, JUst Having Good Sports shooting Features and Fair Video Quality at the Same time is the BEST DEAL especially that the price difference of sl2 and t7i in our country is like $45 , so yeah it's really gonna be worth it.
As much as I'm a fan of mirrorless offerings from Sony and Fuji, for the price, having a flip out screen is fantastic. Even if the specs aren't all that...
The m50 and m100 would be another two entries level interchangeable lens system cameras from canon. ;-) And they are bother actual interesting offerings at their price points.
Hey all/Tony, I picked up the SL2 on amazon for an African safari trip I have in 3 weeks, but after further research think the Nikon 5600 may be a better purchase for this trip. Thoughts? Open to opinions. Seems the 39 focal points and the low light range on the Nikon will make it a better choice? Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide some feedback-
Hi thank you so much for the video, for your help and guidance ! I was wondering which canon camera is the best specifically: •for live concert venue performances• and •nighttime photography• ?
As others have said, although this vid doesn't apply to me at all (nikon shooter for 15 years haha) I enjoyed seeing something about entry level slrs again. Advanced users understand the potential benefit of milc, but first time buyers still feel drawn to slrs, so there is nothing wrong with letting them make an informed decision. If I had to criticise this video, I would argue it would have been nice to have an argument about what sets the canons apart from the competition. I am not talking in depth pro/con. A nod to canon's excellent and ultimately affordable (new or used) lens line up for example. This also applies to nikon ofc, but let's face it. At entry level there is nothing to seperate CaNikon, and when you hit the point of upgrading to a level where the differences matter the game may have changed a lot....
I have been pointing out to people lately the the "2000" dollar A7III is a lot more expensive once you look into lenses for it. Sony really lacks affordable lens options, and it doesn't look like that will change soon (I do think it will though, it just takes time to engineer lenses). At the moment, Canon is the most affordable option, and their cameras still take great photos. In the hands of a novice they won't see the difference in IQ, but they most certainly will see the difference in price. I still suggest the SL2 as a first time buyer DSLR, since I know that I can recommend a lens set that over time can be collected, and bring them a lot of value as well as depth, for a total price that is under 1300 bucks including the camera's cost. Might not be L glass, but it will get the job done for most people that are at that level. A lot of them might not even move past that level.
Is the sl2 still worth today 2021 just for video Want to buy second hand but what's the risk for buying second hand camera is the shutter count a problem for video any advice Wil do Don't see the point in sl3 other than 4k or slightly better images
Hello Sir, I hope your doing Good I'm Witte to you because I need your suggestion for DSLR. Kindly advise for photography purpose which camera should I buy, under 40k budget. Nikon D5600 or Canon 800D My 75-80% purpose is photography and 20% videography Photography like... Portrait, landscape, wildlife, Architecture/monuments, Bokeh and sometimes fast moving object (please advise, as I'm very confused)
@@TonyAndChelsea Here's prices with kit lens (18 -55mm) in my region Canon EOS 200D I (SL2) - $520 Canon EOS 200D II (SL3) - $580 Canon EOS 800D (T7i ) - $550 Canon EOS 77D - $680 I’m a Mobile photographer who travels lot. I didn’t used DSLR Camera before, so I’m a beginner, I mainly focus on Photography but hope to do small video clips and time-laps. One of these going to be my first DSLR camera for long time period. as your knowledge could you please tell me which one is best and worth ?
I bought a sl2 but took it back because the video footage looked exactly like my t3i . I did not see any difference in quality from photos to video . I use manual focus only because I have full control over video and get perfect footage .
Anybody care to give me advice. Have been rocking the 600D since 2013, have a lot of lenses for that system already so I'm looking for an upgrade in APS-C canon lens. Is the 80D worth the extra money over the 77D if I don't need the headphone jack or better battery life?
Please what lenses are best to use the with canon 77D. Apart from the canon Stm 50mm 1.18 to take great photographs??? Please help. I have 18-135mm and the stm. What other on Will I need?
That depends entirely on hat you use it for. I like to bring light gear when traveling, and for that I can recommend both the 24mm 2.8 or the 40 mm 2.8 pancake lenses. The 18-135 you have is fantastic for its price and very versatile, and of course the 50 is the best bang for your buck you can get. If you want to go into portraits you could get a 80 mm 1.8 Canon or even the copy from Yongnuo, but only if you discover a need for it. Any lens purchase should really come from a need you have. The 10-18 someone mentioned is a lot of fun to. Not the sharpest, but fantastic fun for experimenting with perspectives in cities, or for some landscape photos.
Do you have a current camera? If so, is there something it can't do that the T7i can? If you don't have one, and you have the money, the T7i is a great place to start. I usually advise the SL2 for a first time DSLR myself, as it is a simple camera with good specs that will be easy to learn, but still good after the basics are mastered and cost less. The T7i has some advantages though, mainly that 45pt AF system. That was a bg part of why I got the 80D two years ago. Otherwise, if you have a camera now and you have not invested in lenses, then I would suggest putting your money there instead. A new camera might add some features, but a lens will add new dimensions to your shooting.
Well, I would say my first advice stands. I think the SL2 is a very good first timer camera, but if you have the money for a T7i it isn't a bad choice either. Canon makes solid entry level cameras and has inexpensive but otherwise good options for lenses to back them up. What is it about the T7i that attracts you to it? Is it the AF system? It's pretty tight, same one my 80D uses. I do wish it was a bit more to the edges, but I don't have a lot of issues getting my focus where I want it.
It's a big step up from the 9pt that the SL2 and previous models had. For the most part, the SL2 biggest drawback is the 9 pt AF. They should have at least given the 19pt system that they used on the 70D. I think a lot of AF systems are about to evolve though. As the mirrorless world gets bigger, and EVF takes over, we are going to see more robust AF systems even on the lower level cameras. I think we are a ways from mirrorless outright replacing the entry level DSLR though. Cost will be the prohibiting factor for a while there. At some point though, once they are the same price or close enough, then we will see it happen. Years away at the entry level. Maybe not so at the mid-high level. A7III is changing that game. Another camera that might interest you, on that same note, the M50. It's a mirrorless that compares to the 80D for some of it's specs. It even has 4K, though it is crippled for anything you might use it for. As a stills camera though, it looks pretty good, and has an EVF with even more AF points as well as eye detect. It's expensive though, 900 for the one with a lens, and 200 for an adaptor that will allow EF and EF-S lenses to be used on it (a must for any real lens selection). So, the T7i is probably still a better bet for the money. Just putting that info out there.
I'm probably going to buy the SL2 soon as my first DSLR. I do plan on using the viewfinder and this video is the first time I've heard that it kinda sucks. I don't have more money to spend tho so I'll probably just have to deal with it. It shouldn't matter for filming tho would it?
Great video! I have a budget to buy the SL2 body, 18-135mm, 50mm f1.8, and 10-18mm for cinematic video and landscape photography purposes. Is this a great choice to spend my money?
I'm just sad this video didn't come up earlier when i was buying my camera and I ended up buying a 'not so good' one :( This would have helped a lot. Why Tony.. whyyyyy??
Like I said before, Canon needs to cut down the amount of models they push out. The fact that Tony felt it was worth his time to make this video goes to show how confusing it can be to pick what is needed. Plus, at the end of the day, all these cameras end up in the used market and will just eat even further into new sales when people realize they don't need the latest to still get something good.
I agree that they have too many models. But if this were true, "the used market and will just eat even further into new sales when people realize they don't need the latest to still get something good" then companies wouldn't be releasing new models every 1-2 years. That is actually how you fight the used market, by incrementally upgrading so fast that people never really get a feel for what they have. It's the whole "but I want it now!" mentality that the youth market seems to have these days. I think Apple might have started that with the iPhone, but maybe there are earlier examples.
I agree Canon has more models than they need, but the consumer getting a good deal on a good used camera is a bad thing? Not! Are you worried about Canon sales and profit? I really like Canon products but they need to step up their game when it comes to prosumer video/photography. They need to offer a camera with 1DX mark ii features in a 6D mark ii form factor and they would probably sell like hotcakes and make more money.
Suggestion_please: My Fixed Budget 720usd 1) Canon 200d body + 18-135stm+ 50 mm 1.8 prime = 720 US dollars. 2) Canon 77d body + 50 mm 1.8 prime = 720 US dollars. 3) any other combination? 4) any other model/ brand with this same budget? Any other lens #Purpose : portrait, nature, friends & family picture. #Only photography, #No _video , i already have Samsung note 8, so can do 4k video if needed.
I would recommend the 77d Body + 50mm 1.8 prime if with nature you mean something that´s actually moving and means a problem for the 9 focus points on the 200D. If not, i would recommend the 200D. Also, i would not use 4k video on a phone, just saying.
Which of these cameras is best for you?
Buy the SL2/200D on Amazon: help.tc/SL2
Buy the T7i/800D on Amazon: help.tc/T7i
Buy the 77D on Amazon: help.tc/77D
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Buy on B&H; if you're in the USA but outside of NY, no tax (or shipping).
Tony & Chelsea Northrup does any of these support the Canon GP-E2 GPS? I bought one for my 5Ds and discovered it also works with my 80D.
Hello would it be possible for you to compare t7i to d5500/d5600? Also I do appreciate your list of recommended gear, but is it updated? thanks.
The dreaded first camera decision. These cameras were new when I bought my first camera. I ended up narrowing it to the 77D and the Nikon D7200. I wanted the top LCD and full frame was too expensive. I liked the swivel touchscreen, UI of the LCD display, AF, and most importantly the ergonomics far better than Nikon. But the sturdier construction, weather sealing, pentaprism, better battery life, and most importantly extra SD slot sold me on the Nikon. Though, I wasn't really satisfied with the purchase for months due to me being attached to the Canon and being pressured by my Nikon owning friends.
I found out I hated liveview on the LCD. And on a recent trip to Japan, I never desired to use anything other than the viewfinder. And as I used the camera more, I got pretty comfortable with the camera ergonomics. And since I mostly did still photographs of landscapes and such, I had no issues with the AF. Personally, I don't regret my decision, especially since I only had to change out the battery once in 2 weeks with about 2000 shots taken. In fact, I prefer the D7200 to the D7500 (which a friend got for the trip to upgrade his old D80).
I have the canon 77d and have had it for a few months. I'm 13 and into wildlife photography and for me, the 77d was a clear winner. I use it around 3 hours a day and 12 hours on the weekends, all my spare time goes into wildlife photography and filmmaking. If you are going to spend a lot of time using a camera for wildlife I would definitely say the 77d is great!
P.s I saw the first fox cub of the year today!!!
Eliza Burton Awesome Eliza keep shooting and recording the wildlife :)
S H I will! I'm going to make videos on wildlife in the next few months!
Glad to hear that 77D is getting it's worth! Shoot everything, and shoot often. After all, taking photos is the most important part of being a photographer, you know? It seems like so many people forget that 10K in gear on the shelf is pretty useless by comparison to 1K in gear with 10K in photos. If you have place we can see you work, I would like to.
Keep it up. That dedication may make you quite the name in the industry some day. Also, congrats on your foxies!
Kevin Diaz I'm actually in the process of organising everything to set myself up, e.g. a website and an informal wildlife series! I have not been active on my social medias such as instagram and youtube, but once I am active again you can see lots of the wildlife pictures I've been taking! I have not got the best pictures of the fox yet, but hopefully with persistence I will!
The fox is getting used to me and comes just over three metres away from me and I'm so happy that she trusted me with her cub in the field - she was fully aware that I was there!
Have a great day!
If you would like to see my pictures in the future you can see them on my instagram: __elizaburton__
I will also be posting videos on this channel after my exams finish!!
Have a great day everyone!
I'm giving this a thumbs up simply becasue it is a youtube photography video that isn't about Sony for a change. I can't even imagine the troll comments you are going to get from it. I'm trying to fight the urge to look, but it's like a car wreck, you can't help but to look.
I'm glad for Sony users, they are really changing the game. But man, they are quickly becoming the most annoying group out there. Overly concentrated on specs alone, and no one wants to talk about any other aspect of the game. There is so much more to making a great photo than dynamic range; the specs matter less and less with each generation of camera, and not everyone wants to spend 2K on a camera that doesn't have it's own native affordable lens options. A beginner can grab the SL2 or T7i, the 50mm F1.8, the 55-250mm IS STM, the 10-18mm IS STM, and the 24mm F2.8. With that kit they can take a wide range of great photos, and not even clear 1500 USD. For a great many shooters that kit would be all they ever need. This is why Canon is still top market shareholder, because they know that not everyone needs to be the next Ansel Adams, David LaChapelle, or Annie Leibovitz, or even Tony/Chelsea Northrup for that matter (love your work). Some people jsut want something that will work well for the money they paid, and any of those cameras can do that. Just about any modern camera can.
I love your comment and I have both the Canon T7i and the Sony A7iii. Love both and each has its purpose.
Today, I was out with my 80D and its kit lens. Another time, it will be a 5Ds and shifty lenses.
Depends on what I want to do.
just buy all second hand ,holds value
Bing Zhao there is some truth there, my 5Ds and six lenses I bought for it I bought used, for half or less of the new prices. Clearly, I stand to lose less by depreciation than the previous owners.
Kevin Diaz Amen!
🙋 Bought the 77D in May 2017 (as an upgrade to my 500D/T1i from 2009) and I'm pretty happy with it - a compact body filled with Hi-Tech-Features.
I think by now I've seen almost all of the most relevant videos comparing the sl2 with the t7i. This was quick but straight to the point. Very good.
I bought a T7i a little over a year ago and have been pleased with it. I needed a backup and second video camera so I bought the 77D a couple of months ago. I do like the extra features of the 77D. Interestingly, the 77D was $50 cheaper than the T7i when I bought it on Amazon. The price on the 77D has since gone back up to $100 more than the T7i. For once, I guess I bought it at just the right time.
I bought the SL2/200D specifically for making videos with the Yelangu S60T steadicam stabiliser (~USD$50) and the combination does a great job. I also own the 80D for wildlife photography. The SL2/200D is even more portable.
GapBahnDirk I'm planning to buy the S60t, what lens are u using? 10-18 stm? Do u have any sample videos on ur Channel?
I use the Canon 10-18mm. Try Sukhumvit Asoke junction video.....
Basically one can't buy a bad camera today, but I think the comparison between these three specially shows how Canon lost it's Mojo because of intentionally crippling their cameras due to their weird product policy/strategy.
Very helpful to see the buffer capacity of these cameras in action .
Got a SL2/D200 as my first DSLR camera. I am happy. :-)
That is the camera I suggest more than any other as a first DSLR. Good features, a guided menu, simple enough to learn on but will still be relevant after the basics are mastered. Also, if video is ever something you might want to do it kills the T6/T7 bas models. They don't have DPAF or silent STM focus support, the SL2 does.
Thanks for the advice. Can you test the JPG only buffering that Tony spoke about? I really want this as an upgrade to my ooooold 350D I got as a first camera....
If you shoot jpeg instead of raw, the buffer will hold out longer. I don't have one in hand to do a test, but according to some research you should be able to get 20+ shots before the buffer fills out if using a fast enough memory card. That is just under 3 seconds. Not terrible, but still not the beast the 80D is for action. If you will be shooting a lot of burst shots, then the SL2 might be too weak. If it is only sometimes, and you are ok with JPEG, you can make it work.
@Ramon Scheepers I just tested with my SL2 and I stopped shooting after 60 shots of no buffering. I imagine it could have gone on for quite a while. This was with the largest jpeg size available( L 24MB 6000X4000)
Thanks for checking for me.... Looks like I'll be happy once I get it😁
Nice comparison. I was using a 77D that I bumbled upon at a pawn shop as my primary camera for my online sales business. I had it on a tripod and used live view with touch shutter for all of my shots. It was great. WiFi worked great and allowed me to not have a cord between the camera and my computer. Video worked great for product videos. I thought I was "wasting" the 77D, though, as it had so many nice features that I didn't use. I then bumbled upon an SL2 at a pawn shop and grabbed that for my online business. Perfect! WiFi is just as good or better, and since I don't care about the viewfinder since I use Live View, and I don't care about the missing dial on the back since I just use aperture priority and a small aperture to get good depth of field on my product, the SL2 does everything I need. Video is just as good. Now my 77D will become my vacation camera, bumping off an old SL1. The 77D has a nice viewfinder and I will make good use of the features I didn't use when it was on a tripod in my studio setup. I also have a spare battery since I have a battery-eliminator power supply for the SL2 that sits on a tripod, and the battery that came with it will go on vacation with me and the 77D.
I bought the Canon 80D
Was hesitant of which to buy of these three, was considering the SL2 and 77D to update my old XTi, thanks to this video I ditched the SL2 idea and went with the T7i, 77D would not be my best fit. Thanks for the complete review.
Got the 200d as a backup and not a fan of the menu...really!! Prefer the old menu style, but I am sure that I will get used to it. It is an absolute bargain for what you get, even if it feels a bit plastic and the buttons are spongy, still a great camera.. Paid soooo much for my old 450D many years ago and now you get a lot of value with the new models and so light and small... brilliant for a beginner or even a backup camera, but I have seen some excellent images from this camera.. 5 stars for this video, I looked at some comparison charts for entry level cameras, but this video explains it way better....
Hey brotha, just wanted to let you know you can still get the old menu look on the SL2, just go into the 4th tab in the menu and you should see the option to use the classic style menu instead of the hand holdy graphic menu.
This was the most genuine and detailed difference review i have seen....helped me a lot
I bought the T7i before the SL2 was released and have been happy with it. For me, the 77D upgrades were too minor. Don’t care about top LCD when I have the fantastic color screen on back with the same info. And exposure comp on the T7i is easy enough, as Tony demonstrated. Bizarre, though: Tony’s links show the 77D body is actually $100 cheaper on Amazon (U.S.), at least at the time I’m writing this. In that case, I would get the 77D.
i haw 77D and im happy with it..good camera
Very pragmatic review. I got the 800D, i am very happy with it. Unfortunately noise level is quite high ( thanks LR)
And efs lenses are very good and so cheap... You will easily find Canon users around you, mint used lenses to buy...
Just to add that using live view you end up having a ton more metering zones and 80% of the sensor size is used as AF coverage area (which is a lot for action). Also, with a smartphone and Canon's camera connect app you don't need a remote trigger. Faced this dilema and ended up buying an SL2 with a 24mm pancake and I'm happy with what I'm achieving.
My SL2 is my first DSLR, and it's freaking awesome. it's true that the OVF is kinda primitive, but if you can focus and recompose you can easily get away with it. And the buffer running out only happens when shooting RAW, you only get those 5 frames, but if you are happy with the JPEG files straight outta camera you can shoot JPEGs and get tons of shots, I'm not sure how many cz I have never held the shutter for more than 5 seconds but you'll be just fine. This is not an action camera, as tony clearly said, but you can get amazing results with the Live View mode, autofocus is crazy good and composition wise it's awesome. You can get very creative with all the modes and functionalities of this tiny beast camera. it's awesome for video as well. This camera has everything if you're just getting started, awesome sensor, great capabilities, long-lasting battery, super user-friendly. What else can you ask for?
Really nice presentation style here. Good clarity and use of the viewer's time.
Really great summery of my favorite cameras. Awesome sound quality and great lighting. Consistent voice cadence was pleasant. Appreciated the lack of stuttering. Clear consistent points addressed in a timely fashion. I bought my wife the Canon EOS SL1. We are very pleased with it and intend on buying the Canon EOS SL2 for myself. I have been shooting videos and I love it!
Great Video Tony as always, one thing worth mentioning the 77d has digital image stabilization (not sure if the t7i does as well) but its been useful when shooting hand held video.
Sam Vargas images the T7i has got EIS/DIS as well!
I love my SL2. I did get it to learn how to do DSLR video. But I did do some maternity photos of a family having a baby. The 5 fps was fine for that. Was able to capture some great shots, even tho thier young son didn't want to sit still. Anyway, I love the SL2. Wish Canon would come out with a camera tho, that would blow consumers away. Seems that they got too many in thier line that are similar. My favorite camera's right now...(even tho I can't afford them) Canon 1dx markii, and the Nikon D850. Dream cameras for me. Thanks for the vid. You two are great.
I would personally take a 5DSR over the 1DX mkII right now. Not that it isn't still great, I think other than it's high speed shooting and 4K video (and weatherproofing), the 5DSR is just a better system. One of the sharpest cameras out there. The D850 is sweet too, and in a world where things are starting to look more and more like mirrorless will take over, it might be the last truly great DSLR.
Kevin Diaz I bought a used 5Ds. I have no need of the speed of the 1Dx, but the pixels might prove useful.
My 80D is still a good camera.
OneEyedPhotographer The 80d is a great camera too.
Lisa's Life - Loved the 80D so much I got a second one to help cover events. For the money it is hard to beat.
Love my 77d. Such a great upgrade from the t5i I started with.
do you think the 77d is a good upgrade from the t6i im only using it for video
Canon 80D is best for video bro😀
Not the question
no 77d has image stabilization in video , 80d has not
I still love my SL2 camera, couldn't be happier with the camera. People get different cameras for different use.
Rachel510126 What do you use your Sl2 for?
ItzYoBoySly I use the camera for taking awesome photos and cool videos. I take my canon sl2 camera with me when I go hiking (very light weight) and going on road trips to capture beautiful scenery and capture moments I spend with my family and friends. The camera is so easy to use and there is nothing that I can find that is bad about the camera
Rachel510126 hey Rachel! Would love to know how the SL2 does in low light? Is it bad? I’m planning on getting on. Will be the first dslr id own. Hopefully! 😁
@@shireenniloofar9027 Honestly, it's pretty darn good! You can set it on Auto mode and it does the job. You can also adjust it your self by switching the setting to Manual mode. What are you using the camera for?
Rachel510126 not anything professional. I’ve always loved taking pictures.. and I study in Chengdu, China which is a beautiful place. I wanted to take some good pictures of friends and the place. What about the battery tho? I saw another video where they said it can take only 400 pictures at a time?
Thank you so much. You made it extremely easy to pick the camera right for me
Which one would you choose between the Nikon D5600 and the Canon 800D for a beginner in landscape photography?
canon 800d or fuji x-t20 bearing in mind fuji lenses are really expensive budget of around 800-1000
Great video! I use my SL2 for video mostly and love it.
Just get the 77D.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. I know Tony did the break down already, but I feel it is much simpler. For video only, the SL2, and unless you need to shoot action the SL2 for stills. If shooting action more often or you jsut really want the 45 AF points the T7i, unless shooting in manual then the 77D for the added scroll wheel (but really at that point I would suggest looking for a good deal on the 80D instead for the added controls). They will all do good and are not that different in price. Though even the SL2 is above the budget of most people that ask me "what's a good camera for X dollars." X almost always is equal to or less than 500 USD. It's why I suggest the SL2 over the others so much, I know that price sells more than features to people that have never even used a camera before. That market is so much bigger than those that are sticking with it and upgrading for better features, and it's a lot easier to convince them to spend another 100 bucks for a better camera that will hold up longer than the base models.
Dhanul already have it! 😎
I'm a street photographer. When I'm out and about taking pictures, I rarely use my full frame cameras. Most of the time I'm walking around with my SL2 and an EF 24-70L f/4 and a nifty-fifty. Why? It's lighter and it's the only one that has the DIGIC 7 processor that has the same sensor used by the 80D and a dynamic range greater than the 6DII.
I'm trying to decide what camera to get my girlfriend for Christmas. I'm torn between the SL2 & the T7i. The price difference is about $320 Canadian, so it's not exactly a small difference. This will be her first camera, so I know the SL2 is a good entry option but would it last her long enough before she out grows it? Also concerned about the SL2 ability to shoot things in motion and also in low light. Any input? Current prices for me: SL2: $580 / T7i: $899 - all in CDN
it's definitely the SL2. buy some cheap lenses like the 50mm 1.8 along with it from the leftover money you got, and the 10-18mm if you can find used ones. you'd buy her the fun of learning the situations and circumstances, uses of changing lenses. this is how i got my interest in photography, years ago. and ended up making a living from of it.
Hi Tony, Thanks for all your help. Can I mount this on a Zhiyun Crane 2?
which camera gives right skin tones?
I’ve often wondered why Canon doesn’t base it’s full frame mirrorless on the 200d body shape. It’s compact and has the right flange distance so EF lenses will mount to it. Give it a full frame sensor, magnesium body and EVF, some weather sealing, a couple of extra dials etc and you could end up with a pretty decent setup.
Shane Doyle a mirrorless without proper short flange distance is a waste. A 50mm 0.95, manual focus only though, exists for mirrorless and its under1000bucks. ...if this was doable for dslr they would have done it, but no. Theres more like that, 9mm 2.8 apsc, Samyang 12mm f2 and some more
Having a catalog of a couple of hundred compatible lenses immediately available would probably ease the pain of the wasted extra 26mm over the Sony E-mount.
Shane Doyle no. I dont need couple hundred lenses. None of those is a 12mm f2 you know? Also no 10mm fullframe. 50mm 0.95 you can afford. Emount has most Kind of lenses youd want.
I'm a Sony shooter myself so anything Canon puts out is unlikely to change that.
However, Canon have a squillion users out there that use the EF mount. If they go for something different there is a chance their customers will take the opportunity and jump systems as they will need new lenses anyway. Why risk that? The Canon SL2 (D200) is almost the exact same size as an A7iii, it takes EF lenses, it will hold a respectable size battery and it's a shape that current users are familiar with.
Shane Doyle Because anything else is a dumb product. If a mirrorless can work with Adapter lenses AS well. Hey. Its just a tube with electronic contacts. Shouldnt make a difference
My 200D is not that slow when shooting raw files continuously. Maybe that's because you have only 40MB/s which is kinda slow, I have 80
You can get a 77D body cheaper than a T7i body. Apparently no one wanted to pay the extra money and most of these are probably going out the door as kits. For what it's worth I have a 77D. I like it, but there are a few things I wish it had such as AFMA and focus tracking adjustments as well. Weather sealing is nice but I can live with that risk for now. When the 90D or 7D mkIII shows up I'll probably upgrade.
Hi Tony&Chelsea, I went over to your tutorial link looking for hints on using the Panasonic G9 but I noted that you haven't managed to get around to doing it yet. Can you please tell me roughly when it will be completed, Thanks again, Alan..
The SL2 was my 1st camera, then I upgraded to Sony A7III a 2 months ago. I am happy with both.
I wouldn’t even bother with any of these old bodies. The M50 mirrorless is at a good deal now for under 700. I’ve actually been using mine more than my A7RII. Touch screen and focusing is great. Super easy camera to use.
If anyone uses Live View most of the time, then a mirrorless is for you.
I have the 77D and I love it.
Great review! I have 5D4 but I also bought a SL2 for long hikes and travels. It makes a great pair with 10-18mm lens. I also like to pair it with the small pancake lens like 24mm, 40mm f2.8 and 50mm f1.8.
SL2 is a very useful little camera. I suggest it to first timers since I know it will take far longer to outgrow it than it will a T6/T7 base model. I always say "simple enough to learn on, but enough features to keep it useful long after you mastered the basics".
After a year I'm very satisfaced with the 77
I love my T7i! Very happy with it. Use it for my videos and for still shots.
I always like your videos they are packed with info with great advice with no bs I always learn something. Thanks for a great production every time.
Hello! What body should I choose between:
1. Canon 77D
2. Canon SL3 (250D)
3. Other model??
I don't want to buy something second hand. I would like to buy brand new. In my country I can buy either of them for under 800$
A nice summation on this range of Canon cameras. I do have an unrelated question though: why haven't you guys reviewed the Pentax KP? Did I miss it? I thought about it because I didn't see the camera in your tutorial section. I thought it was kind of weird.
Bought new SL3 /200D M-II
1050 shots/ battery charge
More lighter ..its little DSLR with remarkable capabilities
How would you say the SL2 stacks up against an older camera like the T5i? Isn't it basically a T5i with slightly better quality and dual pixel auto focus? I'm considering upgrading, and I'm thinking that I'd be totally fine with it. I love my T5i, the only thing I really want is Dual Pixel AF to be honest.
Is there a way to prevent the buffer? Or at least minimize the buffer time?
Have a quick question about vlogging with SL2/200D. I hear that most DSLRs stop recording after 10 minutes once the SD card creates a 4GB file. I want to know if I am shooting a video (in 1080p) longer than 10 minutes, can SL2/200D auto-create the 4 GB files? I know that GoPro does that. Thanks in advance.
T7i FOr me, JUst Having Good Sports shooting Features and Fair Video Quality at the Same time is the BEST DEAL especially that the price difference of sl2 and t7i in our country is like $45 , so yeah it's really gonna be worth it.
As much as I'm a fan of mirrorless offerings from Sony and Fuji, for the price, having a flip out screen is fantastic. Even if the specs aren't all that...
The m50 and m100 would be another two entries level interchangeable lens system cameras from canon. ;-)
And they are bother actual interesting offerings at their price points.
Forgot to mention that the 77d has digital image stabilization as well along side the lens IS. I would say that makes it the best video shooter? No?
can the sl2 burst shooting be "hacked" by some programming? seems like a fake limitation Canon put on. the 5 in one second then one per second issue
Great work. I'm really inspired, so glad coz all my channel video are shot with the amazing canon 200d
Hey all/Tony, I picked up the SL2 on amazon for an African safari trip I have in 3 weeks, but after further research think the Nikon 5600 may be a better purchase for this trip. Thoughts? Open to opinions. Seems the 39 focal points and the low light range on the Nikon will make it a better choice? Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide some feedback-
Good video, but u did not mention about the duel pixel af why?
The SL2 has bulb shutter and time-lapse too, and a dial on the top directly tied to shutter speed...
Is there any difference in video mode between them.
Will the 9 focus points on the sl2 affect me filming ?
Hi thank you so much for the video, for your help and guidance !
I was wondering which canon camera is the best specifically: •for live concert venue performances• and •nighttime photography• ?
800D will be better than the 200D in terms of low light photography.
Does the SL2 and SL3 have built in multiple exposure?
Sir please tell me
Is Cannon 200d useful for
Wildlife photography
THAMP- Theatre Academy For Media and Performance go for 800d or 77d instead
sl2 is only good for stills photography
As others have said, although this vid doesn't apply to me at all (nikon shooter for 15 years haha) I enjoyed seeing something about entry level slrs again.
Advanced users understand the potential benefit of milc, but first time buyers still feel drawn to slrs, so there is nothing wrong with letting them make an informed decision.
If I had to criticise this video, I would argue it would have been nice to have an argument about what sets the canons apart from the competition. I am not talking in depth pro/con. A nod to canon's excellent and ultimately affordable (new or used) lens line up for example. This also applies to nikon ofc, but let's face it. At entry level there is nothing to seperate CaNikon, and when you hit the point of upgrading to a level where the differences matter the game may have changed a lot....
I have been pointing out to people lately the the "2000" dollar A7III is a lot more expensive once you look into lenses for it. Sony really lacks affordable lens options, and it doesn't look like that will change soon (I do think it will though, it just takes time to engineer lenses). At the moment, Canon is the most affordable option, and their cameras still take great photos. In the hands of a novice they won't see the difference in IQ, but they most certainly will see the difference in price. I still suggest the SL2 as a first time buyer DSLR, since I know that I can recommend a lens set that over time can be collected, and bring them a lot of value as well as depth, for a total price that is under 1300 bucks including the camera's cost. Might not be L glass, but it will get the job done for most people that are at that level. A lot of them might not even move past that level.
Thanks for this video. It helped me a lot to clarify a few things before making my purchase
Is the sl2 still worth today 2021 just for video
Want to buy second hand but what's the risk for buying second hand camera is the shutter count a problem for video any advice Wil do
Don't see the point in sl3 other than 4k or slightly better images
Canon SL2 or Nikon d3500? I want one most for photography
Hello Sir,
I hope your doing Good
I'm Witte to you because I need your suggestion for DSLR. Kindly advise for photography purpose which camera should I buy, under 40k budget. Nikon D5600 or Canon 800D
My 75-80% purpose is photography and 20% videography
Photography like... Portrait, landscape, wildlife, Architecture/monuments, Bokeh and sometimes fast moving object (please advise, as I'm very confused)
Great video. Just have quick question though, more photography less videography what would you recommend SL3 , T7i or 77D ?
Thank you!
The only difference will be the size and controls. The 77D has the best controls of them all but is also the biggest.
@@TonyAndChelsea Here's prices with kit lens (18 -55mm) in my region
Canon EOS 200D I (SL2) - $520
Canon EOS 200D II (SL3) - $580
Canon EOS 800D (T7i ) - $550
Canon EOS 77D - $680
I’m a Mobile photographer who travels lot.
I didn’t used DSLR Camera before, so I’m a beginner, I mainly focus on Photography but hope to do small video clips and time-laps.
One of these going to be my first DSLR camera for long time period. as your knowledge could you please tell me which one is best and worth ?
Great video and advice MR North, as usual you answered my Query, thanks.
Can u review the Panasonic G85 vs all the other competition in its price segment?
I bought a sl2 but took it back because the video footage looked exactly like my t3i . I did not see any difference in quality from photos to video . I use manual focus only because I have full control over video and get perfect footage .
Thank you. Great reviews, very straightforward and really helps.
for pics and some videos the sl2 is a good option ?
Can you go deep on reviewing canon 65Od how It took the I quality and how to shoot short film
Anybody care to give me advice. Have been rocking the 600D since 2013, have a lot of lenses for that system already so I'm looking for an upgrade in APS-C canon lens. Is the 80D worth the extra money over the 77D if I don't need the headphone jack or better battery life?
T7i/800D please kindly....♥
Which is the best canon 750D or canon 200D?
What’s the best camera for a filmmaker
Excellent to the point details. Will it be ok if I buy the body only and go for Tamron 18-200 mm and cabon 50mm prime. Please advise me.
can't go wrong with the 50mm.
Plz suggest me best dslr for just photography from these 3??
Sir plz suggest me a good camera in these canon 700d or nikon d5300
Wich is best for videography nd photography???? 800d or 77d
Please what lenses are best to use the with canon 77D. Apart from the canon Stm 50mm 1.18 to take great photographs??? Please help. I have 18-135mm and the stm. What other on Will I need?
Shima Abraham You have a great prime,You also have a good kit lens covering a good range.Maybe you can get a 10-18mm wide angle,if you want to.
That depends entirely on hat you use it for. I like to bring light gear when traveling, and for that I can recommend both the 24mm 2.8 or the 40 mm 2.8 pancake lenses. The 18-135 you have is fantastic for its price and very versatile, and of course the 50 is the best bang for your buck you can get. If you want to go into portraits you could get a 80 mm 1.8 Canon or even the copy from Yongnuo, but only if you discover a need for it. Any lens purchase should really come from a need you have. The 10-18 someone mentioned is a lot of fun to. Not the sharpest, but fantastic fun for experimenting with perspectives in cities, or for some landscape photos.
How about the optical viewfinder on the 77d
Can i just use the canon connect app for long exposure
Thinking of getting the t7i
Do you have a current camera? If so, is there something it can't do that the T7i can? If you don't have one, and you have the money, the T7i is a great place to start. I usually advise the SL2 for a first time DSLR myself, as it is a simple camera with good specs that will be easy to learn, but still good after the basics are mastered and cost less. The T7i has some advantages though, mainly that 45pt AF system. That was a bg part of why I got the 80D two years ago.
Otherwise, if you have a camera now and you have not invested in lenses, then I would suggest putting your money there instead. A new camera might add some features, but a lens will add new dimensions to your shooting.
Currently Just using my iPhone 8 Plus alongside my drone for my videos but would like to upgrade
Well, I would say my first advice stands. I think the SL2 is a very good first timer camera, but if you have the money for a T7i it isn't a bad choice either. Canon makes solid entry level cameras and has inexpensive but otherwise good options for lenses to back them up. What is it about the T7i that attracts you to it? Is it the AF system? It's pretty tight, same one my 80D uses. I do wish it was a bit more to the edges, but I don't have a lot of issues getting my focus where I want it.
Ya I like the added focus points on the AF
It's a big step up from the 9pt that the SL2 and previous models had. For the most part, the SL2 biggest drawback is the 9 pt AF. They should have at least given the 19pt system that they used on the 70D. I think a lot of AF systems are about to evolve though. As the mirrorless world gets bigger, and EVF takes over, we are going to see more robust AF systems even on the lower level cameras. I think we are a ways from mirrorless outright replacing the entry level DSLR though. Cost will be the prohibiting factor for a while there. At some point though, once they are the same price or close enough, then we will see it happen. Years away at the entry level. Maybe not so at the mid-high level. A7III is changing that game.
Another camera that might interest you, on that same note, the M50. It's a mirrorless that compares to the 80D for some of it's specs. It even has 4K, though it is crippled for anything you might use it for. As a stills camera though, it looks pretty good, and has an EVF with even more AF points as well as eye detect. It's expensive though, 900 for the one with a lens, and 200 for an adaptor that will allow EF and EF-S lenses to be used on it (a must for any real lens selection). So, the T7i is probably still a better bet for the money. Just putting that info out there.
When is the Canon m50 review coming?
why on earth people buy dslr and not using the optical viewfinder? if that the case, then just buy a mirrorless. -600d user
True. I guess the available optics could do it for some, but that would be outliers.
I'm probably going to buy the SL2 soon as my first DSLR. I do plan on using the viewfinder and this video is the first time I've heard that it kinda sucks. I don't have more money to spend tho so I'll probably just have to deal with it. It shouldn't matter for filming tho would it?
Omer Magen probably not, since filming is mostly done using live view.
Adam Rasmussen its a great camera as long as you don’t do sports/wildlife shots. I have 5D4 but I still use SL2 a lot for my casual shots.
Because Dual Pixel AF
Are those two better then the cano t7i or no
Does both of them on the same type of video FORMAT
Great video! I have a budget to buy the SL2 body, 18-135mm, 50mm f1.8, and 10-18mm for cinematic video and landscape photography purposes. Is this a great choice to spend my money?
yes.
I'm just sad this video didn't come up earlier when i was buying my camera and I ended up buying a 'not so good' one :(
This would have helped a lot. Why Tony.. whyyyyy??
which one did you buy?
Like I said before, Canon needs to cut down the amount of models they push out. The fact that Tony felt it was worth his time to make this video goes to show how confusing it can be to pick what is needed. Plus, at the end of the day, all these cameras end up in the used market and will just eat even further into new sales when people realize they don't need the latest to still get something good.
Totally agree with this. There are WAY too many Canon cameras. We had to give up reviewing them.
I agree that they have too many models. But if this were true, "the used market and will just eat even further into new sales when people realize they don't need the latest to still get something good" then companies wouldn't be releasing new models every 1-2 years. That is actually how you fight the used market, by incrementally upgrading so fast that people never really get a feel for what they have. It's the whole "but I want it now!" mentality that the youth market seems to have these days. I think Apple might have started that with the iPhone, but maybe there are earlier examples.
I agree Canon has more models than they need, but the consumer getting a good deal on a good used camera is a bad thing? Not! Are you worried about Canon sales and profit? I really like Canon products but they need to step up their game when it comes to prosumer video/photography. They need to offer a camera with 1DX mark ii features in a 6D mark ii form factor and they would probably sell like hotcakes and make more money.
@OrganicFarmer Not arguing that at all. Practically all my Canon gear comes from eBay. Only new items I have bought were from Tamron.
Good choices!
Very very informative and too the point video.
Suggestion_please: My Fixed Budget 720usd
1) Canon 200d body + 18-135stm+ 50 mm 1.8 prime = 720 US dollars.
2) Canon 77d body + 50 mm 1.8 prime = 720 US dollars.
3) any other combination?
4) any other model/ brand with this same budget? Any other lens
#Purpose : portrait, nature, friends & family picture.
#Only photography, #No _video , i already have Samsung note 8, so can do 4k video if needed.
I would recommend the 77d Body + 50mm 1.8 prime if with nature you mean something that´s actually moving and means a problem for the 9 focus points on the 200D. If not, i would recommend the 200D. Also, i would not use 4k video on a phone, just saying.
Great video! Thanks for this!
You missed the main point for not getting the 200D: the lack of focus points when compared to the others.