I should have mentioned in the video that the weight of these new A/T4's is pretty much the same as the A/T3's in the same sizes. So the weight hasn't really changed with this next generation. There are some A/T4's that are now offered in SL (standard load range), and those are substantially lighter than their A/T3 10 ply predecessors. You do however lose about 1,100lbs of max load per tire with the SL compared to the C range in this video. Also, here is a link to a chart I made sorted by weight for many of the popular A/T & R/T tires if you'd like to compare. I picked a 295/70/18 for the chart because it was easy to find that size from most of the manufacturers (the tire in this video is highlighted on the chart since it's a slightly different size). docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q-y34840fNXHwITvqhm-UZZ90HoYQ1qn5JPEJLstEX4/edit?usp=sharing
I would be mounting these to an Access Cab Tacoma all stock so the SL tire would probably fit my use. Be interesting to see if they are good for me in stock sizing or +1.
@@J.Young808 I honestly would consider the SL even for my Tundra if they offered it in the size I needed. I only tow a boat occasionally. However it would be nice to have a couple extra ply's when I am on trails or when hauling the occasional heavy load.
@@jeremyledbetter8022, so far I’m liking them a lot…I haven’t made a follow up video because we never had any weather for me to really test them in. They are quiet and ride awesome. Wet traction is really good as well. Only complaint is I did lose some MPG’s with the larger size and weight.
@@PottersWorkthank you for the reply! Sounds like winners! I’m thinking of going with these for my GX470. I know these tires are a bit heavier but I’m thinking if I go just slightly larger than my stock tire and in SL range, I will be good.
“I would have liked to see them in a video” you got that right. I’ve been looking for a video like this forever. I’d also love to see AT3W and AT4W side by side and then of course snow performance!
I wish I could get one side by side to compare it...I have seen tons of other trucks with the A/T3's around town, but haven't had an actual tire in hand. I was hoping to get some snow time with them, but Fedex still hasn't delivered my 4th tire. It somehow got separated from the other 4 in New Mexico and the delivery date keeps getting pushed back. Pretty frustrating to just stare at the other 3 in my garage lol.
@@PottersWorkFedEx did the same thing to me a year ago when they shipped 4 Continental tires. Somehow they shipped 3 of them separate from the 4th one, and the 4th was delayed several days as it bounced back and forth between the same FedEx hubs. How hard can it be to keep 4 tires together during shipping?? FedEx ground is a comedy act.
@@ddbear8786, that's pretty much an identical story to mine...finally received my 4th yesterday though. Got them mounted up yesterday evening and so far I'm pretty impressed with how they feel and sound on the road. Truck feels way more planted if that makes sense.
I have ATW3 and @ 44K and still 10/32 tread from the 19/32 tread new. Best tire I've had ATW4 is just an updated side wall and heavier built. Mine have been great to keep balanced and are quite. Just put set on my 06 Ram diesel. Best all around tire one can put on. I wheel hard here in the rockies and this tire has never let me down,
I got 40k miles out of my at3w's with no tire rotations sadly my front tires were wasted.. I couldn't find a new set near me so I ended up getting the at4w I will definitely rotate these and hope to get the 60k they advertise
@@omarcarlos82109, how are you liking them so far? I like mine, I just wish they were a little closer in weight to the Toyos. I can tell they are there for sure when taking off and stopping.
Upgraded to Wildpeak A/T3W in 295/70 18 on my 17 F350 crew/long bed with a power stroke ~7 months ago, from the Nitto Terra Grappler 2 in a 285 size. So far the A/T3W have been comfortable and quiet, while running 58F/48R pressures as my daily driver. The only thing I can see is the tread is slightly updated and the stone ejectors differ in the pattern between the A/T3W and A/T4W. Thanks for the quick video and hope they work well for your application.
Thanks for the comparison info Wiilb! I wish I could have had an A/T3 for a side by side comparison for the video, but I don’t know anyone that has them around here. So thanks for helping out in the comments man!
Thanks for making this video. I was not aware of a new model of these tires. I briefly owned a jeep that had the AT3w's. I really liked them and very quiet.
Just got to test these on my 2019 F150. Lt 275/55 R20. Very quiet on the highway with good pavement manners. Towed my 17.5 ft. boat up 10km on a dirt forest service road that climbs 500 m and they never skipped a beat. Great traction in 4wd. On the way back, without the boat, I rallied it hard and was very impressed with handling and traction. They are supposed to be excellent in snow and ice but that won't be for a few months. I'm driving from Vancouver to Saskatoon for a bird hunt so I'll really get to wring them out then. So far so good!
I just got these tires to replace my Toyo AT3 and they such a smoother ride and shockingly a quite tire. I only have about 100 miles on them but I am happy with just the initial installation compared to what i had before.
I recently put AT3/Ws (not the 4s) on my 2018 4Runner, and I love them. They have completely transformed the on road performance of my truck. Before these, I had Nitto Grapplers, which where terrible, and constantly slid in all conditions except dry. Then, after reading all the reviews, I spent the money and put a set of A/T3Ws on. The A/T3W has not slid at all, and I've been in various road conditions. They are also giving great feedback, and I can tell when I am getting close to losing adhesion. Highway cruising performance is also very good. Very highly recommend the 3W on the 4Runner. Oh, and they look good, too.
So I have the same feelings that you just described coming from Ridge Graps to the AT4's. Feels way more secure and planted, especially in rainy conditions. I had to drive in a snow storm about a month ago with the Ridge Graps and I felt like I was running slicks almost. We are in a warm spell the last couple of weeks, so no snow to try these in yet, but hopefully there will be soon. By the way, I had a 2016 4Runner before my Tundra, and I miss it a lot! If it would have had a bed, I'd still have it lol.
We have a few HD trucks and they go through tires. I have had Toyo, BFG, Nitto and Yoko's and these Wildpeak AT/3's have been the best overall and get me in and out of jobsites with trailers. The wear is excellent and Im coming on 40k miles and will need to get another set within 5-10k...hopefully the 4's will be available in 37 12.5 x 20's.
I’ve been interested in these tires. Didn’t know they came out with a at4w tho until this video popped up. Had the Toyo at3 prior. Had 5/32 left with 70k miles on them out of 13/32. Did great on dry. Was quiet. Smooth. Rain performance started taking a huge hit. Snow did pretty decent. Went a 45 degree incline with 6 inches of snow without much struggle until about 30 feet. Also started dry rotting less than a year and chunks started to be missing. Currently have Baja boss ats. So much better in performance. 10 ply instead of 6 ply this time so they are heavier and ride rougher. I’m sure the 6 ply’s ride great. Average 1/32 per 10k miles. Currently have 90k miles on them. 7000 pound Denali and tow often as well. Do extremely well in snow. Don’t struggle at all and tested it on the same hill. Truly do phenomenal in everything except the noice is getting louder and throw rocks like crazy a gravel driveway. Only 2 complaints but they are aggressive. Was very quiet for 50k miles. Toyo sucked extremely bad in mud. These do phenomenal even with a dual axle 16 foot trailer. Keep in mind the Denali also weighs 7000 pounds from the added stereo weight inside (not your average system as I have 20 grand into it). I do try to keep it a pavement princess but job sites and the land fill in the back prevented that. (Conditions like your going muddin) I hear nothing but good things on falken. The 8 ply is 12 pounds lighter per tire and been thinkin about trying it. 57.7 pounds on the at4w. Baja boss at 10 ply is 70 pounds on the mt website. Wanting to also try the new bfg ko3 but bfg shows no signs on releasing it in more sizes and customer service department is trash with any help.
The Baja Boss was on my final list of 3 or 4 tires (I had some Baja MTZ's years ago and liked them). Seemed like people liked them in the reviews. Ultimatley I was looking more for a quiet ride and I saw more reviews for that on the Wildpeak At/3's...Falken is advertising these A/T4's at the same noise level, so I am hoping that is the same. I was also looking specifically for a 34" tire and that narrowed it down even more. Seems like you had pretty good luck with the Toyo's too, those were my 2nd place decision...only because of increasing road noise and less aggressive sidewall according to reviews.
@@PottersWork yeah that’s why I’ve been looking more into ko3 and falken at3w. At4 is listed on simple tire. More road oriented and also 8 ply instead of really heavy 10 ply. 6 ply I feel like won’t be enough and 10 ply is over doing it so 8 will be perfect for my needs. I didn’t like the ko2 at all. Especially on wet roads. Ko3 I’ve heard does great on wet roads now and improved on other areas. The Toyo at2 was trash imo. Sucked all around and only lasted 25k on a 02 4Runner. At3 definitely did do better. I’m pretty certain I’ll try out the at4w if bfg doesn’t release the ko3 in my size. 275/55r20.
Just put a set of 17" A/T4ws on my Tacoma, very happy with them. They are much quieter than the M/Ts I have on my Jeep Wrangler. The M/Ts drive my dog crazy. The A/Ts have gotten me in and out of a lot of muck and ice and snow already, I'm really happy with them and they are rated for 65,000 miles.
Falken site says your tires are 68 lbs so right on the money with what you weighed them at. It's also worth noting you could go to 285/75-18 which makes it a 10 ply and the weight is the same or even slightly lower than what you bought. That is the size I'm targeting for my Tundra TRD Pro. Bought the truck used with 17K miles and already had Nitto Ridge Grapplers fit in this size. I'm at 26K now and the tread depth is looking pretty low. Also, I have to get these rebalanced every 3-5K. They are smooth after balance and then start vibrating around 1500 miles or so. Garbage tires, if you ask me. I'm looking forward to trying these. I would go Duratrac but they don't make the size I want. Have 285/70-17 Duractracs on my wife's 4 dr Wrangler and she is getting over 80K out of a set and we live up in the mountains so she is driving up and down the mountains 6 days a week for work.
I have had the exact same experience with my Ridge Grapplers…I rotate and balance every 5k miles and they are smooth for about a month and then get rough again. I have a +18 offset wheel on my Tundra, so the 285/75/18 was most likely going to rub even with my mods. So was just trying to avoid a BMC if I could. Getting these mounted as we speak so hoping they don’t rub lol. Currently have 33.2x11.25 on it now in the nittos.
Same reason I am getting a set. Have Pirelli Scorpion Mud terrain and yes they wear like iron but just tired of the noise after 5 years. Mostly sugar sand around here and these would probably pull through it as good as a mud terrain.
The older I get, the more I just want a quiet ride lol. I didn’t used to care as long as they looked cool and got me through the mud. These are quiet, look pretty tough and are still fairly aggressive, so I think it’s a win.
Thanks for the video. Getting a set of these on my Jeep Wrangler today. Replacing Nitto Terra Grappler G2 which were getting slick in the rain and not so great in the snow. About 4/32 left on the 6 year old G2’s. I guess it was time.
awesome, let me know what you think of them! My 4th tire was lost in transit and is supposed to be delivered today, so I have yet to get them mounted up.
Appreciate the video. I'm trying to decide between the AT4W and the Falken Rubitrek in a 31x10.5r15. I like the fact the AT4W now comes in a true size as opposed to 30.5" for a 31" tire.
I’ve seen a couple reviews on the rubitrek’s…they seem to come highly recommended as well. Weird that you don’t hear about them hardly at all. I think I could only find a few videos on them when I was looking a few weeks ago.
just put these on my 4runner. 265/70/17 and let me tell you, insanely quiet and smooth ride. I couldnt believe it. I had the AT3s on my F-150 and these are superior. You get the smooth ness and quiet ness and wet handling of say a Yokohama Geolander, with the beefy offroad performance or a BF goodrich K02/3 or a Toyo open country. Its the best all terrain ever made IMO.
@@hillcountrydev, really can’t overstate how nice of a ride they are…very comfortable and quiet. If they could knock the weight down a little;l, they’d be the perfect A/T tire
The Nitto Ridge Grapplers I have weren’t loud at 1st, but they got noisy pretty quickly even with me rotating regularly. The Nitto Terra Grapplers are much quieter from what I have heard though.
I’m getting away from the ridge grapplers myself. Not for noise reasons but for feeling like a slip and slide when it rains. Terrible tires. They even have about half tread left but I just ordered the at4’s and looking forward to em!
I had the at3 on my previous truck they were great in snow. Not so much on ice but I liked them. I'll probably get the at4 this spring for my new truck 🤟
I’m looking forward to having a tire that performs well in the snow…haven’t been very happy with the Nitto Ridge Grapplers I have now. Pretty squirrely on snow packed roads
I've had something like 5 sets of the at3w's, my favorite tire ever. Quiet, good tread life, work good, and good looking. Not sure that I like the look of this at4w as well, but I am looking forward to seeing how they perform. Thanks for this coverage!
Im at 37500miles with my AT3s and they hold up well. I burn through tires because of my tuned 02 Duramax. Been looking to get these soon as well, cant wait to see your snow video review. Thanks.
I’m hoping we get some snow here so I can test them…we’ve had snow all season so far but as soon as I ordered these it warmed up and no chances for the foreseeable future :(
The tread looks very similar if not the same as on Toyo Open country AT3... That has great traction in snow and still good on ice. I am running the Toyo
I've had the at3w on 2 different trucks. The at3w has more sipping and it's more of a zig zag sipping. But they were quite and amazing in snow and rain
Someone else mentioned the zigzag sipping as well, so that seems to be one of the big differences. Did the weight bother you at all? That’s the only thing I’m a little concerned about…that and another guy said they were hard to balance.
I had them on two vehicles. A 2002 Toyota Sequoia and a 2013 f-150 both v8s. I didn't notice any weight issues. They balanced just fine. In 5 years between two vehicles never had any issues. My concern with the at4 is its made from a different compound that gives you more milage. That will mean a harder tire so less traction for off road.
@@keithmorrison9372, I thought the same thing when I saw the longer life called out…harder rubber. However, they don’t seem like they are a harsh ride or anything so far. They did balance with no issues according to the guys at Discount Tire. I do notice a little more sluggishness with the larger and heavier tire. I’m running them on my 2016 Tundra with the 5.7L V8 as well.
That’s a nice tire, I think it looks better than the ATW3. If it maintained the exact or greater performance than the ATW3 those will be my next tires.
Wonder how they compare to the at3w… they look very similar. I bought a cheap little taco for maintaining my cattle fence a few years ago with a set of at3w on. I passed them off as some “cheap knock off tire” didn’t give them much thought. They made their presence known. I was used to plugging tires from sharp rocks and devils thorns. Boy was I surprised in the two years of almost continuous off road I got only one small puncture from a lag bolt! And the traction was phenomenal. I have nothing but praise for this tire. Puncture resistance is better than most good load range e tires!
I’m hoping they live up to the AT3 and have the same good qualities that you are describing! I’ve read a ton of reviews that were just like you’re describing. Fingers crossed, these end up being a great tire as well. Do you mind me asking how many miles you have in your AT3’s?
I like that they offer this in a load range C as I’m hoping it will give a softer ride that the E. Having said that, I was looking at the exact same size for my F150 and the 68 pounds blew me away. That’s 8-10 pounds heavier than most other class E tires in the same category. How they get all that weight with just a class C? Love the tread and sidewalls. I’m going to wait for reviews. Thanks for posting.
@@TangierFly , I was surprised too with the weight…what’s even more weird is that they list a 35x11.50x18 on their size chart that is also 6 ply but only weighs in at 62lbs. That had me scratching my head a little. It’s a larger tire with all the same specs as this one, but 6lbs lighter
@@PottersWork I don’t know. They were used when I bought the truck and it got about 2500 miles per year because it was mostly off road and rural back roads. My brother in law has the truck now to see if he can finish it off. ( it was a registration exempt farm truck and I pretty well beat it to death on pasture and woodland range)
These are my next tire for my Raptor 37. It has eaten the OEM BFG KO2… I likely won’t get 30K out of them as they will be going into their 3rd winter at about 26K miles and I’m not risking that in mountains/snow. They are 10 lbs heavier but I don’t care. I’m not drag racing my truck and I’ll take a beefier tire. Snow rated is a requirement.
Well, so far I just had these mounted on my Tundra today and I didn't notice a huge difference in how the truck felt...but I've only driven them 30 miles so far. These are 10lbs heavier than the nitto's I was running before since I went up a size as well. I love how they drive so far. Pretty jealous of your Raptor man, that is a dream truck for me
@@PottersWork Thank you for this information. Have been shocked at how fast these BFG KO2 are going.. in fairness we do drive on bad (and HOT) CA roads. I can’t risk a 3rd winter on these tires. Thank you on Raptor.. was a dream ride for me also.. LOVE the Tundra.. historically I’ve been a Toyota guy. When home CFO (wife) said it was a go on the Raptor the boys and I were stoked.
@@TCinSoCal, haha, sounds like you have a cool wife man! I’m pretty lucky myself. She stuffed my stocking with cash on Christmas and told me to buy some tires lol. Maybe someday it will be “go buy a raptor” 😂
I just got these for my Tacoma last week for $202 per tire for 265/70r16 size. Liking them so far although I got rear ended 3 days after I put them on.
@@PottersWork Thanks man, I'm all good thankfully. My wife just got me your Sasquatch screen for my truck a few days ago, gonna install it this weekend!
@@mrkevinhaughey, I’m glad you weren’t hurt! I hope the Taco recovers too lol. And tell your wife thanks for supporting my small business, sincerely appreciate you guys!
I ordered these for my 21 Tacoma, getting 3” lift and leaf springs from RSG Offroad… i was supposed to be the first ones they installed from their shop!! Was super excited until they called me up saying they could get these new AT4w’s to balance worth a damn… so they talked me into just going with the older AT3w’s… hopefully it all works out!! We’ll see in a couple hours! :)
Man, I hope that's not the case for these tires that I have! Still waiting on my 4th tire to be delivered so I can schedule an appointment to have them mounted. What size did you go with on your Taco?
@@PottersWork i got the LT 285/70 r17s…. (I believe it’s the 6ply version?) I do have to say i really love the AT3w’s and the KMC Terra wheels that I got on my truck with the Bilstien setup! Really wish i coulda had the newest/latest greatest tires from Falken on there… but alas, if this reputable place couldn’t even get them to balance… i don’t know what to say….
@@scottteske237, I read some more reviews after you mentioned the balancing issue, and saw a few about having trouble balancing the A/T3's too. Hopefully it's just a small percentage and not on a larger scale. I am going to be super upset if these AT4's have balancing issues. That was one of the reason's I went with an A/T tire in general. Those KMC Terra's are badass wheels. I have the Method Roost's on my Tundra and have really liked them.
@@scottteske237, nice! I did get my mounted finally, luckily no issues with balancing them at my close Discount Tire store. They drive super smooth on the highway too, also much quieter than the ridge graps I was running before.
The weight of the at4w is a bit concerning for me since I am looking to upgrade but with how well my at3w have held up I think I might just bite the bullet. I have a tacoma which is a fairly light truck but these at3w's have been on my truck for around 65000 miles and they still have a decent amount of tread. I'm really just looking to upgrade because my back 2 tires are a little bit chewed up from offroading and lots of wheel spin (not the tires fault). Thank you for the video. I'm not a huge fan of the alternating side wall lugs compared to the symmetrical at3w but it's not a deal breaker for me.
65k miles and still drivable is awesome, my Ridge grapplers have easily lost half their tread in 20k miles. Have you compared the weight of the tires you are currently running with the new AT4? In the 18” sizes they seemed to be pretty much the same unless you go with the SL in the AT4’s…then it seemed to drop substantially.
@@PottersWork I’m currently on LT285/75r17 which the at4 is only 2 lbs heavier. How ever I have been wanting to switch to a lt 35x12.5 which to keep the same load range E it looks like they are around 7-8 pounds heavier than the same size in at3. A stronger sidewall is always nice to have but I didn’t feel like my at3’s had any issues to begin with. Not sure why there is such a difference in their 35” tires unless that is going to be an oem spec for some truck then it would make sense since they make those sizes more beefy typically.
@@zgmurph 35x12.50's will look badass on a Taco. If you end up doing it, I'd love to see pics of the finished setup. I know your mpg's will suffer for sure, unless you re-gear I suppose. But it's the smiles per gallon right? lol
@@PottersWork It's just gonna take a little bit more $$ to get them to fit properly since my 34s rub a bit as it is right now but I am kind of forced to since most people in my group have gone up in tire size and I don't wanna be left behind haha. I'm already getting pretty bad mpg. I have a supercharger which I think is the only way I've been able to get away with no regear but I think 35s will be the nail in the coffin on that haha
Thanks for posting, I was curious about the looks of these as well. I like the look of the staggered shoulder blocks, but I really still don't like the sidewall design. The fact that these tires are so heavy for any given size is going to be a deal breaker for me though. My poor 4Runner is slow enough as it is, haha.
If I wasn’t putting these on a Tundra it would have been a deal breaker for me too. Still have a little heartburn about the weight though myself. Hopefully the pros outweigh the weight.
Awesome mini review so far! I'm definitely ordering a set of the 33x12.50R15 for my 1978 Chevrolet k20. Ive had a set of the at3w on my 2011 3/4 ton and loved them! I currently have a set of Falken rubitreks on my 2020 silverado 1/2 ton and they are also great tires!
I looked at the rubitreks about 3 weeks ago when I was trying to decide…there isn’t much out there as far as reviews, which is weird because they seem to be a great tire per the reviews. Sounds like you have an awesome fleet man
@@johnmitchell7526, one of them was lost in transit, but was found yesterday (not sure how that happens with a tire when they all shipped together). Hoping to have it by the weekend so I can actually get them mounted lol.
I'm on my second set of AT3W's, they're quiet at 25k with lots of heavy towing. 285/75r18 on F250. Hope the siping and wet weather performance is still good on the AT4's.
@@ThatPNWlyfe, wow, I didn’t realize they slammed a 7.3L in the gas version, that’s awesome. Hope it lasts you a long time and thanks for weighing in here in the comments man!
I am looking at these compared to the KO2, which apparently do not come in my size, 215/85R 16, so I would love to see them on your vehicle and also hear about the snow
I am planning on doing another review here shortly once I get a little more time driving on them. My neighbor has the KO2’s on his work truck and loves them. He travels a ton for work and also pulls a trailer with a side by side on it most of the time.
I ordered the A/T4W’s for installation probably Friday. I’ll do a video of them. I haven’t done one in a long time, but I will so feel free to subscribe. I need to introduce the new six wheeler anyway.😊
6 and 10 ply tires usually don't have much difference in weight, not a huge amount of steel for difference, the biggest gain an LT tire has over a P tire is alot more rubber to consistently handle increased amounts of weight for a much longer time. Less likely to puncture the tire because everywhere is thicker.
I think Falken makes a good tire, however I’m concerned about the additional weight. I’m trying to keep the unsprung rotating mass to a minimum in order to reduce the stress on my brakes and suspension while still maintaining ground clearance, grip and durability. The Toyo AT3 may be a better option for me.
I had the same thoughts...went back and forth between the Toyo and Falken probably 20 times. I am mostly swapping over for a quieter ride and the falken's seemed to have better reviews in that area, that and tread life is supposed to be awesome. Time will tell I suppose!
@@PottersWork I’m currently running BFG KO2s in the C load rating which is about 8 lbs lighter than the same tire in E load. I really can’t complain about them because they have been really good so far, but I’m considering going bigger.
What truck are you putting them on? I went with the Cooper rugged trek for my last set. Normally the non LT rated tires get quite a bit less tread depth, but i don't really need E range tires on my tacoma. The rugged trek had an xl load range that still had good tread depth and were way lighter than the Falken MTs I had on before. They're much quieter and do better in the snow too. I'll probably try the Falken or Toyo ATs next just so I have a comparison of several different types.
That's my plan...if I can ever get them installed lol. My 4th tire was lost in transit and supposedly was found and being routed to me. However the tracking hasn't shown any changes for days.
Thanks for putting out the video man! Planning to get a set of them on my truck. Just surprised how heavy they are and not be load E rated. Looking at the Rubitrek, and even the Kenda Klever AT2.
No problem man! That surprised me as well, they actually are about the same weight as the E's, not sure why. They are still lighter than the Mickey T Baja Boss A/T and Nitto Ridge Grapplers, but there are definitely lighter tires out there. I have a buddy who has the Klever's and he loves them. I wish the Rubitrek had more size options
Im running the super loud nitto ridge grapplers as well. Id like to hear your impressions of road noise once you have them on the vehicle. Please make a follow-up video!
I just paid $391 a few days ago to Discount Tire for a set of AT/4- 285/60R20's on my 2010 F150/FX4. They had to ship them from California to Washington State. They run surprisingly quiet on road for an aggressive tread. Ride quality is good but I'm still experimenting with pressure for the best balance of mileage and road comfort. They fill out the wheel wells fully and the wider shoulders look beefy. The staggered blocks and aggressive shoulder wrap looks like pure business can't wait to test these out on my local trails nothing but rain & snow forecast for the next 3 months. I'll do an update after some torture testing.
Awesome man! I’m actually sitting in the waiting area of Discount Tire typing this right now lol. What psi are you running at the moment? I’ve always just ran 40psi in my tires.
@@PottersWork Cool you must be pumped. Since they're load range E (10 ply / 80psi) I picked 60psi as a starting point. That helped mpg some from the 40psi at installation but seems a bit hard for soaking up uneven pavement so dropping pressure in 5lb increments. Looks like 50-55 is the sweet spot. I still have my 20" FX4 factory wheels so your taller sidewall will probably ride softer by design. Mpg will max out once they wear smooth. I've also done a custom flow thru exhaust and doing a tune next week to bump up HP & torque which might🤣help keep my foot off the throttle. What vehicle are you installing them on?
@@angrysheepdog9744, going on my 2016 Tundra. Hoping they don’t kill my MPG’s lol. They are 10lbs heavier than my current Ridge Grapplers. So I’m assuming similar setup as your F-150. Did you notice your truck feeling more sluggish or anything?
@@PottersWork I lost 2 mpg (16 ->14) Pushing 425hp and expecting near 500 after mods so not much in the way of sluggishness but some braking fade. I already run the sticky severe duty oem pads but swapping out the rubber brake lines for braided will help. I'm expecting 16-18mpg when everything is dialed in and my ECM optimizes. Swapping for NGK Iridium plugs should also help your motor run more efficiently.
@@angrysheepdog9744, wow man, that’s going to be a badass rig when you’re done! I was only getting around 13mpg with my nittos…I’m expecting to lose at least 1-2mpgs after swapping to these falkens. Just got home actually, so far I’m loving them. They are way quieter and smoother than my ridge graps with 20k miles on them. I do have a slight rub on the mud flaps, going to have to get the heat gun out lol.
@@PottersWorkit’s really not bad. I don’t notice it at all, I’ve had most of the mud/all terrains at one point or another. I’d say this is on the quieter side of the bunch
Glad it was helpful, and I am waiting to see too. Still waiting on one of my tires that was lost by Fedex...it's delivery day has been rescheduled 3 times now
They wont be down under in Australia , for at least 6 months or longer.... our shipping is slow , and we just don't have the buyers market .... shame as I really would love to try these.
Well, that could be ok, maybe that will give you some time to see some actual reviews before hand. I just had them mounted yesterday afternoon and so far I am liking them. Drove in the rain this morning and that was awesome, but still waiting on some snow. If I could have gotten my hands on them a week earlier, I would have had a perfect snow to test them in. They are also nice and quiet too (compared to my Ridge Grapplers)
@PottersWork I know, he almost couldn't believe it telling me. This is in Australia in sub tropics and desert. They have excellent reputation holding up to long trips into the outback, Cape York etc.
@@indyrock8148 I saw quite a few video reviews of them in Australia actually when I was looking. Seem to be pretty popular there and here in the US. Pretty cool lol
@PottersWork they jacked the price up to MT levels a couple years ago which mustn't have helped because they're now around $100 each cheaper which must be a good recipe. About $50 each more than hankooks. Nothing wrong with hankooks but people seem to be happy paying a bit extra for them.
@@indyrock8148, sounds like they typically have a pretty long life and wear well...I can see that being worth the extra $ for sure. I had some hankooks on my wife's SUV years ago and they were actually pretty decent.
I've been looking at these and the Nokian Outpost nAT tires. Nokian is a bit less expensive. I'm also considering an inexpensive tire the Milestarr Patagonia A/T Pro, however, can't find any reviews on those tires.
@@PottersWork Seem to be popular with overlanders. Theres' two versions of the Outpost. Make sure to look at the Outpost nAT version. It's made in TN. Nokian seems to be a popular snow tire brand, although I'm in the South and don't know anything about snow. The other tire, the Milestar A/T Pro has a similar situation to the Nokian where there are two different versions. There's a Milestar Patagonia A/T, then a Milestar Patagonia A/T Pro. Make sure to look at the Pro version. It's supposedly built in the U.S. also. However, they won't disclose where or who is making it for Milestar in the states. Nokian is not hiding anything, it's there own plant from what I've discovered, so I leaning more to it.
@@nickfountain8420 , I will check them out! I have heard of the Milestar's, just never really looked at them. Pretty cool they are also both made in the USA. Not a lot of overlanding around here in Kansas, so most of the tires are geared more towards mud and snow at local shops here.
I was going to buy the wildpeak AT3 instead I purchased the Toyo Open country AT3 the dry traction is is excellent what fraction is excellent snow traction is excellent good unravel very quiet tire if you're buying them for a truck you have a 50.0000 warranty your p-metric have a 65.000 I've had quite a few AT tires including the door tracks and I will not go back to anything else but Toyo's Open country AT3 that's it
So my final two tires I was torn between was the Toyo and the Falken…probably spent a week going back and forth. I read more people saying the Toyo got a little noisy around 20k miles…so that was my final deciding factor. That’s what happened with my current Nitto’s…after 20k they are really loud, and I’ve rotated every 5k miles religiously. I honestly think they are both excellent choices, and the lower weight on the Toyo is a big plus. I wish these were lighter honestly
This is interesting. I'm building up a '98 Ford Ranger with daily driving and forest service roads in mind. I know it's not a fuel efficient vehicle but it can still have a fighting chance. So much so that instead of running the steel wheels that weigh 27 lbs, I'm sticking with the stock 15x7 alloys...they weigh about 20 lbs. Looking between the 31x10.5 Falkens and the same size Toyo AT III's, I'd be about 7 lbs lighter per corner on the Toyos. That would allow the 4.0 engine to accelerate the truck a bit easier and efficiently. Lots to think about!
@@brendanclark81, the weight for sure is something to think about…that was my toughest hurdle to get over lol. Also, I forgot to mention that I liked the meatier side wall of the Falken. The side lugs are more substantial than the Toyo and I believe the sidewall is 3 ply on the Falken as well (which might explain some of the added weight)
@@d-unit-outdoors, Toyo makes a great tire, and made in the USA as well. I went back and forth many times trying to make my decision, hoping I’m as happy with these tires as most of the people are with their AT3’s.
Me too! One of My tires got separated from the other 3 in shipping and I’m still waiting on it to show up…it’s supposed to show up Saturday, but we will see
I know it's not much of a review, but thanks man! I am running Method 308's (18x9 with +18 offset). I haven't mounted these yet since one of them got delayed/lost with fedex. I currently am running a 33.2x11.25 tire with a 2.75" lift with no rubbing (I did heat the plastic fender up with a heat gun and pushed them out a little though). My lift is bilstein 6112's on the top setting by the way. These new tires are only about 3/4" larger diameter, so I am hopeful there will still be no rubbing. I think the stock TRD rim would actually work better with it's higher positive offset. Would be less likely to contact the body mount and front fender when turning.
Hey brother, any update or review since you’ve had these? Would love to see them on your truck as well, thinking about doing the same size on my 2024 Tundra
I haven’t done a follow up because we haven’t had really any inclement weather not test them in…the weather has been stagnant here ever since I made that video lol! As far as how they ride, I have them on a 2016 Tundra and they ride nice. They are surprisingly quiet for how aggressive they look. They balanced well for Discount Tire when they installed them as well. The only thing I don’t like is the weight…they are pretty heavy and I can tell, but I also went from a 33” to a 34” and a wider tire as well, so some of that feeling might just be having a larger tire. I did lose about 3 mpg in town, and 2 mpg on the highway. My computer isn’t calibrated for a larger diameter tire though, so that mpg drop might not be as bad as it’s showing. I’m happy to answer any other questions you have about them
Disappointed here seeing that the outer block sipes are seemingly no longer 3D canyon interlocking… that may hurt/lower its performance in the rain and especially snow/ice 🤦♂️
Well, I have only had them mounted for 24 hours, but so far I really like them. Nice and quiet, handled awesome in the rain today and the truck feels much more planted than it did with the Ridge Grapplers.
@@97clubcar, I wouldn’t say no problem necessarily…I have a 2.75” lift up front and JBA upper control arms. With that set up, I had to shim the front, bumper forward and heat up the inner fender lining at the back of the tire to stop the rubbing. But I also have a +18 offset wheel so my tire stick out a little further than stock which caused a lot of the rubbing. With a stock wheel, I don’t think I would’ve rubbed with my current tires.
I will have to update you once I get them installed...one of them is still in transit, it somehow got separated from the other 3 during shipping and is taking forever to get here now.
This wasn't meant to be a comparison video...just a first look. I tried to make that clear in the description and at the opening of the video. I apologize if it came across different than that. Just wanted people to be able to see actual video of the tire and not stock images from the resellers.
what size AT3's are you running Gregshin? I looked at a bunch of the 18's and they were pretty much the same weight between both tires...with the exception of the new SL versions.
I should have mentioned in the video that the weight of these new A/T4's is pretty much the same as the A/T3's in the same sizes. So the weight hasn't really changed with this next generation. There are some A/T4's that are now offered in SL (standard load range), and those are substantially lighter than their A/T3 10 ply predecessors. You do however lose about 1,100lbs of max load per tire with the SL compared to the C range in this video. Also, here is a link to a chart I made sorted by weight for many of the popular A/T & R/T tires if you'd like to compare. I picked a 295/70/18 for the chart because it was easy to find that size from most of the manufacturers (the tire in this video is highlighted on the chart since it's a slightly different size).
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q-y34840fNXHwITvqhm-UZZ90HoYQ1qn5JPEJLstEX4/edit?usp=sharing
I would be mounting these to an Access Cab Tacoma all stock so the SL tire would probably fit my use. Be interesting to see if they are good for me in stock sizing or +1.
@@J.Young808 I honestly would consider the SL even for my Tundra if they offered it in the size I needed. I only tow a boat occasionally. However it would be nice to have a couple extra ply's when I am on trails or when hauling the occasional heavy load.
@@PottersWorkhow are you liking them after 3 months?
@@jeremyledbetter8022, so far I’m liking them a lot…I haven’t made a follow up video because we never had any weather for me to really test them in. They are quiet and ride awesome. Wet traction is really good as well. Only complaint is I did lose some MPG’s with the larger size and weight.
@@PottersWorkthank you for the reply! Sounds like winners! I’m thinking of going with these for my GX470. I know these tires are a bit heavier but I’m thinking if I go just slightly larger than my stock tire and in SL range, I will be good.
“I would have liked to see them in a video” you got that right. I’ve been looking for a video like this forever. I’d also love to see AT3W and AT4W side by side and then of course snow performance!
I wish I could get one side by side to compare it...I have seen tons of other trucks with the A/T3's around town, but haven't had an actual tire in hand. I was hoping to get some snow time with them, but Fedex still hasn't delivered my 4th tire. It somehow got separated from the other 4 in New Mexico and the delivery date keeps getting pushed back. Pretty frustrating to just stare at the other 3 in my garage lol.
@@PottersWorkFedEx did the same thing to me a year ago when they shipped 4 Continental tires. Somehow they shipped 3 of them separate from the 4th one, and the 4th was delayed several days as it bounced back and forth between the same FedEx hubs. How hard can it be to keep 4 tires together during shipping?? FedEx ground is a comedy act.
@@ddbear8786, that's pretty much an identical story to mine...finally received my 4th yesterday though. Got them mounted up yesterday evening and so far I'm pretty impressed with how they feel and sound on the road. Truck feels way more planted if that makes sense.
I have ATW3 and @ 44K and still 10/32 tread from the 19/32 tread new. Best tire I've had ATW4 is just an updated side wall and heavier built. Mine have been great to keep balanced and are quite. Just put set on my 06 Ram diesel. Best all around tire one can put on. I wheel hard here in the rockies and this tire has never let me down,
That's impressive Michael! Hoping these AT4's hold up just as well
I got 40k miles out of my at3w's with no tire rotations sadly my front tires were wasted.. I couldn't find a new set near me so I ended up getting the at4w I will definitely rotate these and hope to get the 60k they advertise
@@omarcarlos82109, how are you liking them so far? I like mine, I just wish they were a little closer in weight to the Toyos. I can tell they are there for sure when taking off and stopping.
@PottersWork I can definitely feel the weight difference if I could go back and get the at3w I would but we'll see how they hold up
@@omarcarlos82109, yeah too much $ to not ride them out a while lol.
Upgraded to Wildpeak A/T3W in 295/70 18 on my 17 F350 crew/long bed with a power stroke ~7 months ago, from the Nitto Terra Grappler 2 in a 285 size. So far the A/T3W have been comfortable and quiet, while running 58F/48R pressures as my daily driver. The only thing I can see is the tread is slightly updated and the stone ejectors differ in the pattern between the A/T3W and A/T4W. Thanks for the quick video and hope they work well for your application.
Thanks for the comparison info Wiilb! I wish I could have had an A/T3 for a side by side comparison for the video, but I don’t know anyone that has them around here. So thanks for helping out in the comments man!
Loved my grappler G2’s and so far the wildpeak at3 reminds me of them, which is awesome.
Thanks for making this video. I was not aware of a new model of these tires. I briefly owned a jeep that had the AT3w's. I really liked them and very quiet.
I wouldn’t have know either, but I was looking for a 34” tire and these popped up. Hoping they are as quiet as your AT3’s were!
Just got to test these on my 2019 F150. Lt 275/55 R20. Very quiet on the highway with good pavement manners. Towed my 17.5 ft. boat up 10km on a dirt forest service road that climbs 500 m and they never skipped a beat. Great traction in 4wd. On the way back, without the boat, I rallied it hard and was very impressed with handling and traction. They are supposed to be excellent in snow and ice but that won't be for a few months. I'm driving from Vancouver to Saskatoon for a bird hunt so I'll really get to wring them out then. So far so good!
@@haroldvankleeckwilson9304 thanks for sharing Harold! They really do ride nice and the traction is pretty awesome too
I just got these tires to replace my Toyo AT3 and they such a smoother ride and shockingly a quite tire. I only have about 100 miles on them but I am happy with just the initial installation compared to what i had before.
So far I’ve had the same experience, they are a very quiet tire for how aggressive they are. Been happy with my purchase so far
@PottersWork sweet, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this 👍👍
I've had the at3w's from falken, bfg k02s and nitto ridge grapplers and the falkens take the cake
That’s good to hear! K02’s were on my list early on when trying to decide, they had a lot of good reviews too.
Thanks for the video, I love my At3ws we have had some wild snow,ice, and rain this year in the PNW. Works like a champ in all conditions.
Man, that’s good to hear they perform well! Hoping these 4’s live up to the reputation of the 3’s.
@@PottersWork look forward to your feelings on the 4’s 🤙
I recently put AT3/Ws (not the 4s) on my 2018 4Runner, and I love them. They have completely transformed the on road performance of my truck. Before these, I had Nitto Grapplers, which where terrible, and constantly slid in all conditions except dry. Then, after reading all the reviews, I spent the money and put a set of A/T3Ws on. The A/T3W has not slid at all, and I've been in various road conditions. They are also giving great feedback, and I can tell when I am getting close to losing adhesion. Highway cruising performance is also very good. Very highly recommend the 3W on the 4Runner. Oh, and they look good, too.
So I have the same feelings that you just described coming from Ridge Graps to the AT4's. Feels way more secure and planted, especially in rainy conditions. I had to drive in a snow storm about a month ago with the Ridge Graps and I felt like I was running slicks almost. We are in a warm spell the last couple of weeks, so no snow to try these in yet, but hopefully there will be soon. By the way, I had a 2016 4Runner before my Tundra, and I miss it a lot! If it would have had a bed, I'd still have it lol.
65K miles on my current A/T3W and still going strong! Maybe 12/32 tread left.
Guys at the tire shop can't believe how well they are holding up for me.
You are like the 10th person I've heard that from lol...hoping these 4's are similar!
C or E?
@@ZacTexC LT or E rated
We have a few HD trucks and they go through tires. I have had Toyo, BFG, Nitto and Yoko's and these Wildpeak AT/3's have been the best overall and get me in and out of jobsites with trailers. The wear is excellent and Im coming on 40k miles and will need to get another set within 5-10k...hopefully the 4's will be available in 37 12.5 x 20's.
That’s impressive that they last like that on your work trucks, and pulling trailers as well. Hoping these 4’s are the same!
I’ve been interested in these tires. Didn’t know they came out with a at4w tho until this video popped up.
Had the Toyo at3 prior. Had 5/32 left with 70k miles on them out of 13/32. Did great on dry. Was quiet. Smooth. Rain performance started taking a huge hit. Snow did pretty decent. Went a 45 degree incline with 6 inches of snow without much struggle until about 30 feet. Also started dry rotting less than a year and chunks started to be missing.
Currently have Baja boss ats. So much better in performance. 10 ply instead of 6 ply this time so they are heavier and ride rougher. I’m sure the 6 ply’s ride great. Average 1/32 per 10k miles. Currently have 90k miles on them. 7000 pound Denali and tow often as well. Do extremely well in snow. Don’t struggle at all and tested it on the same hill. Truly do phenomenal in everything except the noice is getting louder and throw rocks like crazy a gravel driveway. Only 2 complaints but they are aggressive. Was very quiet for 50k miles. Toyo sucked extremely bad in mud. These do phenomenal even with a dual axle 16 foot trailer. Keep in mind the Denali also weighs 7000 pounds from the added stereo weight inside (not your average system as I have 20 grand into it). I do try to keep it a pavement princess but job sites and the land fill in the back prevented that. (Conditions like your going muddin)
I hear nothing but good things on falken. The 8 ply is 12 pounds lighter per tire and been thinkin about trying it. 57.7 pounds on the at4w. Baja boss at 10 ply is 70 pounds on the mt website.
Wanting to also try the new bfg ko3 but bfg shows no signs on releasing it in more sizes and customer service department is trash with any help.
The Baja Boss was on my final list of 3 or 4 tires (I had some Baja MTZ's years ago and liked them). Seemed like people liked them in the reviews. Ultimatley I was looking more for a quiet ride and I saw more reviews for that on the Wildpeak At/3's...Falken is advertising these A/T4's at the same noise level, so I am hoping that is the same. I was also looking specifically for a 34" tire and that narrowed it down even more. Seems like you had pretty good luck with the Toyo's too, those were my 2nd place decision...only because of increasing road noise and less aggressive sidewall according to reviews.
@@PottersWork yeah that’s why I’ve been looking more into ko3 and falken at3w. At4 is listed on simple tire. More road oriented and also 8 ply instead of really heavy 10 ply. 6 ply I feel like won’t be enough and 10 ply is over doing it so 8 will be perfect for my needs.
I didn’t like the ko2 at all. Especially on wet roads. Ko3 I’ve heard does great on wet roads now and improved on other areas.
The Toyo at2 was trash imo. Sucked all around and only lasted 25k on a 02 4Runner. At3 definitely did do better.
I’m pretty certain I’ll try out the at4w if bfg doesn’t release the ko3 in my size. 275/55r20.
Excellent tire, quiet, good ride with good handling characteristics.
I am hearing this a lot...hoping to have the same experience
Just put a set of 17" A/T4ws on my Tacoma, very happy with them. They are much quieter than the M/Ts I have on my Jeep Wrangler. The M/Ts drive my dog crazy. The A/Ts have gotten me in and out of a lot of muck and ice and snow already, I'm really happy with them and they are rated for 65,000 miles.
Those are some nice Falken tires!
Falken site says your tires are 68 lbs so right on the money with what you weighed them at. It's also worth noting you could go to 285/75-18 which makes it a 10 ply and the weight is the same or even slightly lower than what you bought. That is the size I'm targeting for my Tundra TRD Pro. Bought the truck used with 17K miles and already had Nitto Ridge Grapplers fit in this size. I'm at 26K now and the tread depth is looking pretty low. Also, I have to get these rebalanced every 3-5K. They are smooth after balance and then start vibrating around 1500 miles or so. Garbage tires, if you ask me.
I'm looking forward to trying these. I would go Duratrac but they don't make the size I want. Have 285/70-17 Duractracs on my wife's 4 dr Wrangler and she is getting over 80K out of a set and we live up in the mountains so she is driving up and down the mountains 6 days a week for work.
I have had the exact same experience with my Ridge Grapplers…I rotate and balance every 5k miles and they are smooth for about a month and then get rough again.
I have a +18 offset wheel on my Tundra, so the 285/75/18 was most likely going to rub even with my mods. So was just trying to avoid a BMC if I could. Getting these mounted as we speak so hoping they don’t rub lol. Currently have 33.2x11.25 on it now in the nittos.
Same reason I am getting a set. Have Pirelli Scorpion Mud terrain and yes they wear like iron but just tired of the noise after 5 years. Mostly sugar sand around here and these would probably pull through it as good as a mud terrain.
The older I get, the more I just want a quiet ride lol. I didn’t used to care as long as they looked cool and got me through the mud. These are quiet, look pretty tough and are still fairly aggressive, so I think it’s a win.
Thanks for the video. Getting a set of these on my Jeep Wrangler today. Replacing Nitto Terra Grappler G2 which were getting slick in the rain and not so great in the snow. About 4/32 left on the 6 year old G2’s. I guess it was time.
awesome, let me know what you think of them! My 4th tire was lost in transit and is supposed to be delivered today, so I have yet to get them mounted up.
Appreciate the video. I'm trying to decide between the AT4W and the Falken Rubitrek in a 31x10.5r15. I like the fact the AT4W now comes in a true size as opposed to 30.5" for a 31" tire.
I’ve seen a couple reviews on the rubitrek’s…they seem to come highly recommended as well. Weird that you don’t hear about them hardly at all. I think I could only find a few videos on them when I was looking a few weeks ago.
Read my last comment I left for the host of this if you're still looking for tires I would go with Toyo
This was great! Been looking for a video of the A/T4W! Looking forward to a full review!
Thanks Lizzy! Hoping my 4th tire shows up soon so I can get them mounted...it's been lost in transit for the last 2 days. Just my luck lol
At3w is my absolute favorite tire so these next gen at4w is something on top of my list to get.
The AT/3's seem to be well liked! Hoping these hold up to that reputation
just put these on my 4runner. 265/70/17 and let me tell you, insanely quiet and smooth ride. I couldnt believe it. I had the AT3s on my F-150 and these are superior. You get the smooth ness and quiet ness and wet handling of say a Yokohama Geolander, with the beefy offroad performance or a BF goodrich K02/3 or a Toyo open country. Its the best all terrain ever made IMO.
@@hillcountrydev, really can’t overstate how nice of a ride they are…very comfortable and quiet. If they could knock the weight down a little;l, they’d be the perfect A/T tire
I didnt know those "neato" tires were so loud. Thanks for the info
The Nitto Ridge Grapplers I have weren’t loud at 1st, but they got noisy pretty quickly even with me rotating regularly. The Nitto Terra Grapplers are much quieter from what I have heard though.
I’m getting away from the ridge grapplers myself. Not for noise reasons but for feeling like a slip and slide when it rains. Terrible tires. They even have about half tread left but I just ordered the at4’s and looking forward to em!
@@jasoncox2132, you won’t be disappointed in the wet traction…been pretty happy with mine so far. Much better on road than the ridge graps
I had the at3 on my previous truck they were great in snow. Not so much on ice but I liked them. I'll probably get the at4 this spring for my new truck 🤟
You mind me asking what size you were running on the AT3's?
Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to your on road review.
No problem! Just got them mounted Monday evening so hoping to have one soon
I like my at3w. 255/80r17. I have 35ish000 miles tons of tread left. They are great in snow.
Have you noticed any performance loss, or increase in road noise now that you are at 35K?
I've had AT3 on my Subaru Outback last few years, great tires and great in the snow as well
I’m looking forward to having a tire that performs well in the snow…haven’t been very happy with the Nitto Ridge Grapplers I have now. Pretty squirrely on snow packed roads
I love my at3. Lots of miles on em. Ride great
Good to hear Popeye! People seem to love them
Fallen makes great tires. I’m running a set of Rubitreks on my Tacoma. They have been awesome for the price. 👍🏻
I looked at those too, they just didn't have the size I wanted in the 18's. They had great reviews as well!
I've had something like 5 sets of the at3w's, my favorite tire ever. Quiet, good tread life, work good, and good looking.
Not sure that I like the look of this at4w as well, but I am looking forward to seeing how they perform. Thanks for this coverage!
I'd say you are an expert on the 3's after having that many lol. And no problem, thanks for the comment man!
Im at 37500miles with my AT3s and they hold up well. I burn through tires because of my tuned 02 Duramax. Been looking to get these soon as well, cant wait to see your snow video review. Thanks.
I’m hoping they hold up to the Wildpeak name! Are you running the 10ply on your Duramax?
Unfortunately on Falkens site i couldnt find a ply rating@PottersWork
Those look 🔥🔥🔥 Hopefully they are as good as or better than the A/T3s in the snow.
I’m hoping we get some snow here so I can test them…we’ve had snow all season so far but as soon as I ordered these it warmed up and no chances for the foreseeable future :(
The tread looks very similar if not the same as on Toyo Open country AT3... That has great traction in snow and still good on ice. I am running the Toyo
I've had the at3w on 2 different trucks. The at3w has more sipping and it's more of a zig zag sipping. But they were quite and amazing in snow and rain
Someone else mentioned the zigzag sipping as well, so that seems to be one of the big differences. Did the weight bother you at all? That’s the only thing I’m a little concerned about…that and another guy said they were hard to balance.
I had them on two vehicles. A 2002 Toyota Sequoia and a 2013 f-150 both v8s. I didn't notice any weight issues. They balanced just fine. In 5 years between two vehicles never had any issues. My concern with the at4 is its made from a different compound that gives you more milage. That will mean a harder tire so less traction for off road.
@@keithmorrison9372, I thought the same thing when I saw the longer life called out…harder rubber. However, they don’t seem like they are a harsh ride or anything so far. They did balance with no issues according to the guys at Discount Tire. I do notice a little more sluggishness with the larger and heavier tire. I’m running them on my 2016 Tundra with the 5.7L V8 as well.
Nice looking update for a previously good tire.
I'm hoping it holds up to the reputation of the AT3. That tire seems to be well liked
That’s a nice tire, I think it looks better than the ATW3. If it maintained the exact or greater performance than the ATW3 those will be my next tires.
I like them both, but I have to say I like the 4 better for aesthetics as well
Wonder how they compare to the at3w… they look very similar.
I bought a cheap little taco for maintaining my cattle fence a few years ago with a set of at3w on. I passed them off as some “cheap knock off tire” didn’t give them much thought. They made their presence known. I was used to plugging tires from sharp rocks and devils thorns. Boy was I surprised in the two years of almost continuous off road I got only one small puncture from a lag bolt! And the traction was phenomenal. I have nothing but praise for this tire. Puncture resistance is better than most good load range e tires!
I’m hoping they live up to the AT3 and have the same good qualities that you are describing! I’ve read a ton of reviews that were just like you’re describing. Fingers crossed, these end up being a great tire as well. Do you mind me asking how many miles you have in your AT3’s?
I like that they offer this in a load range C as I’m hoping it will give a softer ride that the E. Having said that, I was looking at the exact same size for my F150 and the 68 pounds blew me away. That’s 8-10 pounds heavier than most other class E tires in the same category. How they get all that weight with just a class C? Love the tread and sidewalls. I’m going to wait for reviews. Thanks for posting.
@@TangierFly , I was surprised too with the weight…what’s even more weird is that they list a 35x11.50x18 on their size chart that is also 6 ply but only weighs in at 62lbs. That had me scratching my head a little. It’s a larger tire with all the same specs as this one, but 6lbs lighter
@@PottersWork I don’t know. They were used when I bought the truck and it got about 2500 miles per year because it was mostly off road and rural back roads. My brother in law has the truck now to see if he can finish it off. ( it was a registration exempt farm truck and I pretty well beat it to death on pasture and woodland range)
@@justinmartin8887, those old Tacos last forever, might take him a while to finish it off lol
Love my AT4 hooked up to the Trail Boss. Couldn't ask for a better tire
Awesome to hear! How long have you had them mounted up Chris?
@@kellymckrill1313How’s that going to work on RUclips? 🤦♂️
Better or worse fuel economy than stock?
I have 93,000 miles on my AT3’s …. Best tires I’ve ever had.
Wow! That's insane man...very impressive!
These are my next tire for my Raptor 37. It has eaten the OEM BFG KO2… I likely won’t get 30K out of them as they will be going into their 3rd winter at about 26K miles and I’m not risking that in mountains/snow. They are 10 lbs heavier but I don’t care. I’m not drag racing my truck and I’ll take a beefier tire. Snow rated is a requirement.
Well, so far I just had these mounted on my Tundra today and I didn't notice a huge difference in how the truck felt...but I've only driven them 30 miles so far. These are 10lbs heavier than the nitto's I was running before since I went up a size as well. I love how they drive so far. Pretty jealous of your Raptor man, that is a dream truck for me
@@PottersWork Thank you for this information. Have been shocked at how fast these BFG KO2 are going.. in fairness we do drive on bad (and HOT) CA roads. I can’t risk a 3rd winter on these tires. Thank you on Raptor.. was a dream ride for me also.. LOVE the Tundra.. historically I’ve been a Toyota guy. When home CFO (wife) said it was a go on the Raptor the boys and I were stoked.
@@TCinSoCal, haha, sounds like you have a cool wife man! I’m pretty lucky myself. She stuffed my stocking with cash on Christmas and told me to buy some tires lol. Maybe someday it will be “go buy a raptor” 😂
@@PottersWork Cheers to that!!
I just got these for my Tacoma last week for $202 per tire for 265/70r16 size. Liking them so far although I got rear ended 3 days after I put them on.
Ah man, that sucks! Hope you weren’t hurt in the accident!
@@PottersWork Thanks man, I'm all good thankfully.
My wife just got me your Sasquatch screen for my truck a few days ago, gonna install it this weekend!
@@mrkevinhaughey, I’m glad you weren’t hurt! I hope the Taco recovers too lol. And tell your wife thanks for supporting my small business, sincerely appreciate you guys!
I ordered these for my 21 Tacoma, getting 3” lift and leaf springs from RSG Offroad… i was supposed to be the first ones they installed from their shop!! Was super excited until they called me up saying they could get these new AT4w’s to balance worth a damn… so they talked me into just going with the older AT3w’s… hopefully it all works out!! We’ll see in a couple hours! :)
Man, I hope that's not the case for these tires that I have! Still waiting on my 4th tire to be delivered so I can schedule an appointment to have them mounted. What size did you go with on your Taco?
@@PottersWork i got the LT 285/70 r17s…. (I believe it’s the 6ply version?) I do have to say i really love the AT3w’s and the KMC Terra wheels that I got on my truck with the Bilstien setup! Really wish i coulda had the newest/latest greatest tires from Falken on there… but alas, if this reputable place couldn’t even get them to balance… i don’t know what to say….
@@scottteske237, I read some more reviews after you mentioned the balancing issue, and saw a few about having trouble balancing the A/T3's too. Hopefully it's just a small percentage and not on a larger scale. I am going to be super upset if these AT4's have balancing issues. That was one of the reason's I went with an A/T tire in general.
Those KMC Terra's are badass wheels. I have the Method Roost's on my Tundra and have really liked them.
@@PottersWork heya, sorry for delayed response… i went for the 285/70 r17s on my KMC Terra wheels. (Both AT4w and AT3w’s)
@@scottteske237, nice! I did get my mounted finally, luckily no issues with balancing them at my close Discount Tire store. They drive super smooth on the highway too, also much quieter than the ridge graps I was running before.
They have these in 305/55r20 XL load. Perfect for me as I don’t haul anything.
I wish they would make more in the Standard Load range...maybe they will add more as time goes on
The weight of the at4w is a bit concerning for me since I am looking to upgrade but with how well my at3w have held up I think I might just bite the bullet. I have a tacoma which is a fairly light truck but these at3w's have been on my truck for around 65000 miles and they still have a decent amount of tread. I'm really just looking to upgrade because my back 2 tires are a little bit chewed up from offroading and lots of wheel spin (not the tires fault). Thank you for the video. I'm not a huge fan of the alternating side wall lugs compared to the symmetrical at3w but it's not a deal breaker for me.
65k miles and still drivable is awesome, my Ridge grapplers have easily lost half their tread in 20k miles. Have you compared the weight of the tires you are currently running with the new AT4? In the 18” sizes they seemed to be pretty much the same unless you go with the SL in the AT4’s…then it seemed to drop substantially.
@@PottersWork I’m currently on LT285/75r17 which the at4 is only 2 lbs heavier. How ever I have been wanting to switch to a lt 35x12.5 which to keep the same load range E it looks like they are around 7-8 pounds heavier than the same size in at3. A stronger sidewall is always nice to have but I didn’t feel like my at3’s had any issues to begin with. Not sure why there is such a difference in their 35” tires unless that is going to be an oem spec for some truck then it would make sense since they make those sizes more beefy typically.
@@zgmurph 35x12.50's will look badass on a Taco. If you end up doing it, I'd love to see pics of the finished setup. I know your mpg's will suffer for sure, unless you re-gear I suppose. But it's the smiles per gallon right? lol
@@PottersWork It's just gonna take a little bit more $$ to get them to fit properly since my 34s rub a bit as it is right now but I am kind of forced to since most people in my group have gone up in tire size and I don't wanna be left behind haha. I'm already getting pretty bad mpg. I have a supercharger which I think is the only way I've been able to get away with no regear but I think 35s will be the nail in the coffin on that haha
Thanks for posting, I was curious about the looks of these as well. I like the look of the staggered shoulder blocks, but I really still don't like the sidewall design. The fact that these tires are so heavy for any given size is going to be a deal breaker for me though. My poor 4Runner is slow enough as it is, haha.
If I wasn’t putting these on a Tundra it would have been a deal breaker for me too. Still have a little heartburn about the weight though myself. Hopefully the pros outweigh the weight.
Awesome mini review so far! I'm definitely ordering a set of the 33x12.50R15 for my 1978 Chevrolet k20. Ive had a set of the at3w on my 2011 3/4 ton and loved them! I currently have a set of Falken rubitreks on my 2020 silverado 1/2 ton and they are also great tires!
I looked at the rubitreks about 3 weeks ago when I was trying to decide…there isn’t much out there as far as reviews, which is weird because they seem to be a great tire per the reviews. Sounds like you have an awesome fleet man
Looking forward to your review after you get them mounted,thank you
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@@johnmitchell7526, one of them was lost in transit, but was found yesterday (not sure how that happens with a tire when they all shipped together). Hoping to have it by the weekend so I can actually get them mounted lol.
My Toyo open Country A/T 111 weigh 41lbs but I am running 265/75/16 tho and I see so many people saying Toyo is high I paid $789 for all four
I'm on my second set of AT3W's, they're quiet at 25k with lots of heavy towing. 285/75r18 on F250. Hope the siping and wet weather performance is still good on the AT4's.
I am hoping that they are as good or better! Did the heavier tire seem to mess with your ride at all in your F250?
@@PottersWork No, it's the same weight as the stock tire (I have the Tremor package that came with same size tires).
@@ThatPNWlyfe Oh ok, cool. Is your's the diesel or gas engine? Those tremors are pretty slick.
@@PottersWork I have a 2020 7.3L gas, first year. 40k and all good so far. Fingers crossed.
@@ThatPNWlyfe, wow, I didn’t realize they slammed a 7.3L in the gas version, that’s awesome. Hope it lasts you a long time and thanks for weighing in here in the comments man!
I am looking at these compared to the KO2, which apparently do not come in my size, 215/85R 16, so I would love to see them on your vehicle and also hear about the snow
I am planning on doing another review here shortly once I get a little more time driving on them. My neighbor has the KO2’s on his work truck and loves them. He travels a ton for work and also pulls a trailer with a side by side on it most of the time.
I ordered the A/T4W’s for installation probably Friday. I’ll do a video of them. I haven’t done one in a long time, but I will so feel free to subscribe. I need to introduce the new six wheeler anyway.😊
@@rvboondocker2559, I’m all in for seeing another persons perspective…and the “six wheeler” has me intrigued now lol
Waiting for your reviews👍
Hoping my 4th tire gets delivered soon so I can get an appointment set to get them mounted.
To quote Robocop..... "I LIKE EM"
My AT3w’s aren’t good in icy conditions.
I just bought the at3w and love them. Didn’t know about the 4w
I just happened to come across them by accident when looking for some A/T3's in a 34" size lol
6 and 10 ply tires usually don't have much difference in weight, not a huge amount of steel for difference, the biggest gain an LT tire has over a P tire is alot more rubber to consistently handle increased amounts of weight for a much longer time. Less likely to puncture the tire because everywhere is thicker.
I was scratching my head when looking at their sizes and the C's weren't any lighter than the E's...that makes a lot of sense now
I think Falken makes a good tire, however I’m concerned about the additional weight. I’m trying to keep the unsprung rotating mass to a minimum in order to reduce the stress on my brakes and suspension while still maintaining ground clearance, grip and durability. The Toyo AT3 may be a better option for me.
I had the same thoughts...went back and forth between the Toyo and Falken probably 20 times. I am mostly swapping over for a quieter ride and the falken's seemed to have better reviews in that area, that and tread life is supposed to be awesome. Time will tell I suppose!
@@PottersWork I’m currently running BFG KO2s in the C load rating which is about 8 lbs lighter than the same tire in E load. I really can’t complain about them because they have been really good so far, but I’m considering going bigger.
What truck are you putting them on? I went with the Cooper rugged trek for my last set. Normally the non LT rated tires get quite a bit less tread depth, but i don't really need E range tires on my tacoma. The rugged trek had an xl load range that still had good tread depth and were way lighter than the Falken MTs I had on before. They're much quieter and do better in the snow too. I'll probably try the Falken or Toyo ATs next just so I have a comparison of several different types.
@@Duckhunterbow I have a Toyota 4Runner with 285/70r 17 c rated BFG KO2s.
@@Duckhunterbow I don’t tow or carry a huge amount of weight, so I don’t need a heavy load rating. C is plenty.
Nice looking tire. Make sure.when mounted that Red dot is placed at the stem for balancing purposes
I just went out and checked, they did not do that lol. They seem to drive fine though as far as balanced goes
@PottersWork oh they will. When the dot red dot is at the stem, it takes less weights to balance.
@@edwinthomas618 , makes sense, i will have to go look and see how many weights they have stuck inside my wheels in the morning lol
$356? Wow! My shop kept pushing these but I went from Toyo M/T to MT Baja Boss
The MT's are supposed to be good tires too and pretty tough! You mind me asking how much yours cost and in what size?
@@PottersWork Falkens used to be cheaper
@@ZacTexC, I think you are right…I never priced them in the past. I haven’t bought tires for a few years
Can we look forward to an updated review after you get to experience all the different terrain that you can compare to the ridge graps?
That's my plan...if I can ever get them installed lol. My 4th tire was lost in transit and supposedly was found and being routed to me. However the tracking hasn't shown any changes for days.
That's the worst!! Sorry to hear that man, I'll keep an eye out for any updates! @@PottersWork
@@SdotShanne , I will try to get a video up as soon as I have had time to try them out
Good looking tire
I think it's a nice mix between a A/T and an R/T tire, looks pretty tough in person
Thanks for putting out the video man! Planning to get a set of them on my truck. Just surprised how heavy they are and not be load E rated. Looking at the Rubitrek, and even the Kenda Klever AT2.
No problem man! That surprised me as well, they actually are about the same weight as the E's, not sure why. They are still lighter than the Mickey T Baja Boss A/T and Nitto Ridge Grapplers, but there are definitely lighter tires out there. I have a buddy who has the Klever's and he loves them. I wish the Rubitrek had more size options
@@PottersWork good to hear that your buddy gave the thumbs up on the Klever AT2. Can't wait to hear your driving impressions.
Im running the super loud nitto ridge grapplers as well. Id like to hear your impressions of road noise once you have them on the vehicle. Please make a follow-up video!
I am planning on doing that Josh! As soon as I get them mounted up I will get that going.
My Grapplers were quiet for about 10k miles but not now lol
I just paid $391 a few days ago to Discount Tire for a set of AT/4- 285/60R20's on my 2010 F150/FX4. They had to ship them from California to Washington State. They run surprisingly quiet on road for an aggressive tread. Ride quality is good but I'm still experimenting with pressure for the best balance of mileage and road comfort. They fill out the wheel wells fully and the wider shoulders look beefy. The staggered blocks and aggressive shoulder wrap looks like pure business can't wait to test these out on my local trails nothing but rain & snow forecast for the next 3 months. I'll do an update after some torture testing.
Awesome man! I’m actually sitting in the waiting area of Discount Tire typing this right now lol. What psi are you running at the moment? I’ve always just ran 40psi in my tires.
@@PottersWork Cool you must be pumped. Since they're load range E (10 ply / 80psi) I picked 60psi as a starting point. That helped mpg some from the 40psi at installation but seems a bit hard for soaking up uneven pavement so dropping pressure in 5lb increments. Looks like 50-55 is the sweet spot. I still have my 20" FX4 factory wheels so your taller sidewall will probably ride softer by design. Mpg will max out once they wear smooth. I've also done a custom flow thru exhaust and doing a tune next week to bump up HP & torque which might🤣help keep my foot off the throttle. What vehicle are you installing them on?
@@angrysheepdog9744, going on my 2016 Tundra. Hoping they don’t kill my MPG’s lol. They are 10lbs heavier than my current Ridge Grapplers. So I’m assuming similar setup as your F-150. Did you notice your truck feeling more sluggish or anything?
@@PottersWork I lost 2 mpg (16 ->14) Pushing 425hp and expecting near 500 after mods so not much in the way of sluggishness but some braking fade. I already run the sticky severe duty oem pads but swapping out the rubber brake lines for braided will help. I'm expecting 16-18mpg when everything is dialed in and my ECM optimizes. Swapping for NGK Iridium plugs should also help your motor run more efficiently.
@@angrysheepdog9744, wow man, that’s going to be a badass rig when you’re done! I was only getting around 13mpg with my nittos…I’m expecting to lose at least 1-2mpgs after swapping to these falkens. Just got home actually, so far I’m loving them. They are way quieter and smoother than my ridge graps with 20k miles on them. I do have a slight rub on the mud flaps, going to have to get the heat gun out lol.
The sipes aren't zigzag on the shoulders like the at3 I'm guessing that'll hurt the snow preformance a little
good catch, I didn't notice that until you pointed it out Thundercat
Thanks for the info
You bet, thanks for watching!
I’ve got over 60k on my at3w, looking forward to trying these out
Wow, that’s impressive! How are they holding up?
@@PottersWorkthey look like they have 70% left still! I do think the compound hardened overtime though may be part of it
@@nikkicovack, that’s crazy! Do you mind me asking how the road noise is after 60k miles? As I’ve grown older I like a quieter ride lol
@@PottersWorkit’s really not bad. I don’t notice it at all, I’ve had most of the mud/all terrains at one point or another. I’d say this is on the quieter side of the bunch
@@nikkicovack, awesome, that’s good to know!
Yes it was helpful. I am curious as to how much weight will be required for balancing.
Glad it was helpful, and I am waiting to see too. Still waiting on one of my tires that was lost by Fedex...it's delivery day has been rescheduled 3 times now
Just got these for $238 each in 285 70 17, idgaf how much they weight. Full send
They wont be down under in Australia , for at least 6 months or longer.... our shipping is slow , and we just don't have the buyers market .... shame as I really would love to try these.
Well, that could be ok, maybe that will give you some time to see some actual reviews before hand. I just had them mounted yesterday afternoon and so far I am liking them. Drove in the rain this morning and that was awesome, but still waiting on some snow. If I could have gotten my hands on them a week earlier, I would have had a perfect snow to test them in. They are also nice and quiet too (compared to my Ridge Grapplers)
Thanks for the video!!!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
I just put them on fantastic tire
Local tire shop was telling me he sells 30-40 sets a months of the Wildpeak AT3W's.
I wonder if they will even release the AT4W here for a while.
Wow, that's crazy!
@PottersWork I know, he almost couldn't believe it telling me.
This is in Australia in sub tropics and desert.
They have excellent reputation holding up to long trips into the outback, Cape York etc.
@@indyrock8148 I saw quite a few video reviews of them in Australia actually when I was looking. Seem to be pretty popular there and here in the US. Pretty cool lol
@PottersWork they jacked the price up to MT levels a couple years ago which mustn't have helped because they're now around $100 each cheaper which must be a good recipe. About $50 each more than hankooks.
Nothing wrong with hankooks but people seem to be happy paying a bit extra for them.
@@indyrock8148, sounds like they typically have a pretty long life and wear well...I can see that being worth the extra $ for sure. I had some hankooks on my wife's SUV years ago and they were actually pretty decent.
These would be my next tire if they weren't so dang heavy compared to bfg or toyo.
I honestly had a hard time getting past that too...but the more reviews I read about the AT3's, the more I thought I would give them a try.
I've been looking at these and the Nokian Outpost nAT tires. Nokian is a bit less expensive. I'm also considering an inexpensive tire the Milestarr Patagonia A/T Pro, however, can't find any reviews on those tires.
I will have to take a look at the Nokian's...I haven't heard of those before.
@@PottersWork Seem to be popular with overlanders. Theres' two versions of the Outpost. Make sure to look at the Outpost nAT version. It's made in TN. Nokian seems to be a popular snow tire brand, although I'm in the South and don't know anything about snow. The other tire, the Milestar A/T Pro has a similar situation to the Nokian where there are two different versions. There's a Milestar Patagonia A/T, then a Milestar Patagonia A/T Pro. Make sure to look at the Pro version. It's supposedly built in the U.S. also. However, they won't disclose where or who is making it for Milestar in the states. Nokian is not hiding anything, it's there own plant from what I've discovered, so I leaning more to it.
@@nickfountain8420 , I will check them out! I have heard of the Milestar's, just never really looked at them. Pretty cool they are also both made in the USA. Not a lot of overlanding around here in Kansas, so most of the tires are geared more towards mud and snow at local shops here.
I was going to buy the wildpeak AT3 instead I purchased the Toyo Open country AT3 the dry traction is is excellent what fraction is excellent snow traction is excellent good unravel very quiet tire if you're buying them for a truck you have a 50.0000 warranty your p-metric have a 65.000 I've had quite a few AT tires including the door tracks and I will not go back to anything else but Toyo's Open country AT3 that's it
So my final two tires I was torn between was the Toyo and the Falken…probably spent a week going back and forth. I read more people saying the Toyo got a little noisy around 20k miles…so that was my final deciding factor. That’s what happened with my current Nitto’s…after 20k they are really loud, and I’ve rotated every 5k miles religiously. I honestly think they are both excellent choices, and the lower weight on the Toyo is a big plus. I wish these were lighter honestly
This is interesting. I'm building up a '98 Ford Ranger with daily driving and forest service roads in mind. I know it's not a fuel efficient vehicle but it can still have a fighting chance. So much so that instead of running the steel wheels that weigh 27 lbs, I'm sticking with the stock 15x7 alloys...they weigh about 20 lbs. Looking between the 31x10.5 Falkens and the same size Toyo AT III's, I'd be about 7 lbs lighter per corner on the Toyos. That would allow the 4.0 engine to accelerate the truck a bit easier and efficiently. Lots to think about!
@@brendanclark81, the weight for sure is something to think about…that was my toughest hurdle to get over lol. Also, I forgot to mention that I liked the meatier side wall of the Falken. The side lugs are more substantial than the Toyo and I believe the sidewall is 3 ply on the Falken as well (which might explain some of the added weight)
@@PottersWorkI love my Toyo AT3’s, if they had more of a side lug like the Falkens they would be the perfect tire IMO.
@@d-unit-outdoors, Toyo makes a great tire, and made in the USA as well. I went back and forth many times trying to make my decision, hoping I’m as happy with these tires as most of the people are with their AT3’s.
I would like to see these installed on your truck 👍
Me too! One of My tires got separated from the other 3 in shipping and I’m still waiting on it to show up…it’s supposed to show up Saturday, but we will see
Gotta love an AT tire that's as heavy as a MT, Falkens are good at some stuff but are chubby tires haha
Haha, chubby is a good description! Supposed to be pretty tough though, I guess that’s the trade off.
Nice looking tire
I think so too, has a nice aggressive look to it for only being an A/T
Thanks!
No problem!
I'm interested to see if they are quite and more comfortable. Also, I wonder if they weight was an issue.
I will try and put a video up with a review after I get them mounted Dennis. Just waiting on the 4th tire to show still.
Ty just got these same size for a new gx550. Can’t decide if I like the raised letter or if it’s too cheesy
@@mrmd8819 it’s actually not too bad…I think it looks tough but it’s not obnoxious at all
Good video
Thanks for watching!
Can you do a Video on the wet performance, Thanks.
Super helpful man! I have been hesitant on pulling the trigger on at4w. Are you running trd rims? Does it rub and are you running a level kit?
I know it's not much of a review, but thanks man! I am running Method 308's (18x9 with +18 offset). I haven't mounted these yet since one of them got delayed/lost with fedex. I currently am running a 33.2x11.25 tire with a 2.75" lift with no rubbing (I did heat the plastic fender up with a heat gun and pushed them out a little though). My lift is bilstein 6112's on the top setting by the way. These new tires are only about 3/4" larger diameter, so I am hopeful there will still be no rubbing. I think the stock TRD rim would actually work better with it's higher positive offset. Would be less likely to contact the body mount and front fender when turning.
I don't think I have ever seen anyone complain about a tire being too aggressive. If anything, it's never aggressive enough.
Wasn’t really complaining…it just doesn’t look that aggressive in their photos. Just wanted to point that out to viewers
Hey brother, any update or review since you’ve had these? Would love to see them on your truck as well, thinking about doing the same size on my 2024 Tundra
I haven’t done a follow up because we haven’t had really any inclement weather not test them in…the weather has been stagnant here ever since I made that video lol! As far as how they ride, I have them on a 2016 Tundra and they ride nice. They are surprisingly quiet for how aggressive they look. They balanced well for Discount Tire when they installed them as well. The only thing I don’t like is the weight…they are pretty heavy and I can tell, but I also went from a 33” to a 34” and a wider tire as well, so some of that feeling might just be having a larger tire. I did lose about 3 mpg in town, and 2 mpg on the highway. My computer isn’t calibrated for a larger diameter tire though, so that mpg drop might not be as bad as it’s showing. I’m happy to answer any other questions you have about them
@@PottersWork no issues in the rain?
@@Mike_MasonDixonDiggers, not at all, but we haven’t really had a real heavy rain since I had them installed. Been super dry here
@@PottersWork thanks for the quick replies man 🤜🏼
@@Mike_MasonDixonDiggers, you bet man! Thanks for watching
Disappointed here seeing that the outer block sipes are seemingly no longer 3D canyon interlocking… that may hurt/lower its performance in the rain and especially snow/ice 🤦♂️
Hoping to get some snow in the next few weeks to be able to try them out and see...it's just bitter cold here right now.
Looks like the sipes are not big zag on the at4 compared to the at3
You are correct, not sure how that’s going to affect performance yet.
Thanks for sharing. Curious on your initial thoughts.
Well, I have only had them mounted for 24 hours, but so far I really like them. Nice and quiet, handled awesome in the rain today and the truck feels much more planted than it did with the Ridge Grapplers.
So what did you put thwm on. And what size tire did you have on before.
I put them on my 2016 Tundra…had Nitto Ridge Grapplers in 275/70/18 before these.
@@PottersWork So The 285 70 18 fit no problem. I have 275 70 18 now looking on going to the 285 70 18
@@97clubcar, I wouldn’t say no problem necessarily…I have a 2.75” lift up front and JBA upper control arms. With that set up, I had to shim the front, bumper forward and heat up the inner fender lining at the back of the tire to stop the rubbing. But I also have a +18 offset wheel so my tire stick out a little further than stock which caused a lot of the rubbing. With a stock wheel, I don’t think I would’ve rubbed with my current tires.
What size do they actually measure out to be?
do they have 2 or 3 ply sidewalls?
they remind me of the toyo at3’s?
I agree, the sidewall lugs are a little more pronounced on these compared to the Toyo, but pretty similar
Did you use them yet ? I just ordered them for my f150
One of them was lost in transit with Fedex...still waiting to get it so I can get them installed. Pretty dang frustrating
What is your impression of the load C version? Curious if you think it rides much better than an E. And if you tow, how well do they perform?
I will have to update you once I get them installed...one of them is still in transit, it somehow got separated from the other 3 during shipping and is taking forever to get here now.
Are the offset side lugs to help with mud?
yes, increased traction when navigating mud, rocks, and other rugged terrain
Holy cow that’s heavy for a C load!
I agree…I guess the 3 ply sidewall and the extra tread depth adds a lot of weight lol
HINT: To compare tires, you need both; otherwise it is not a comparison.
This wasn't meant to be a comparison video...just a first look. I tried to make that clear in the description and at the opening of the video. I apologize if it came across different than that. Just wanted people to be able to see actual video of the tire and not stock images from the resellers.
HINT: He never said it was a comparison. I hope this helps, Doug.
almost got a set by they are now 66lbs instead of 58lbs each from the old AT3Ws! =(
what size AT3's are you running Gregshin? I looked at a bunch of the 18's and they were pretty much the same weight between both tires...with the exception of the new SL versions.
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LT275 70 17s