7 of the Best AT Tires in the Snow VS All Season & Winter Tires!
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2023
- Following on from testing these mild all terrain tires in the dry, wet and offroad (watch here: www.tire-reviews.com/Article/... ) I've taken seven of them through to snow testing, and pitched them against one of the most popular US all season tires, the Michelin Defender LTX MS and one of my favourite winter tires, the Michelin X-Ice Snow.
The full data can be found here: www.tire-reviews.com/Article/...
This will help us answer whether a snow rated (3 Peak mountain snowflake) all terrain really can replace a good all season tire, or even a winter tire in snow.
Unfortunately at time of this test some of the tires from the original test were unavailable. In this test we have:
= Mild AT
Continental Terrain Contact AT
BFGoodrich Trail Terrain TA
Firestone Destination A/T2
Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure
Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain plus
Toyo Open Country A/T III
Yokohama Geolander AT G015
= Reference
All Season - Michelin Defender LTX MS
Winter - Michelin X-Ice Snow
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That Arnold reference is probably one of the best descriptions of a driving experience I’ve ever heard
Best thing ever - getting home from work and being treated with this amazing content. Love Tyre Reviews ❤
Glad you enjoy it!
@@tyrereviewsI would’ve watched 30 minutes. What I’m wondering: do you test cold weather wet performance? Like 5 degrees Celsius on wet roads? My a/t tires are useless at that. I’m running three sets (H/T, A/T and proper winter tires), so it doesn’t affect me all that much (and because I love tires).
Swearch for a video titled "the truth about tyre temperature" or something, you'll find it interesting @@Gemini_0815
Thanks so much! I can't say in words how much I appreciate your work and that you accepted this request
That's very kind of you :D
There will be a video including the Nokian OutPost nAT out in a few weeks and something with Falken in the coming months, so don't forget to subscribe and hit the bell icon :D
Also try the michelin agilis crossclimate that would work great on a truck or van
I’ve been contemplating falken wildpeaks or CC2s forever and just went with the Michelins since you haven’t reviewed the wildpeaks yet..
YES! Finally some decent Nokian’s on the channel! I’m exited to see how they do. Many of the more popular Nokian’s here in North America (Outpost nAT, APT, WRG-4, Nokian One all-seasons, Hakkapalitta line) don’t seem to make it to these tests, or any tests for that matter. I’ve had multiple Nokians at this point (currently have WRG-4’s and Outpost APT’s on my wagons) and absolutely loved them. Best winter grip in an all-terrain and all-weather I’ve experienced personally, and everyone I know that tries Nokian’s loves them. I’m a massive Continental fan for their DWS line and always respect a good Michelin, but Nokian has earned their place in the top class with their winter performance imo. But I’d like to see them break away from the cult-status and get some mainstream traction going!
Would love to see the falken wildpeak, ko2s, and some coppers go head to head on snow and wet braking 😊
The falkens are very good in the snow. I had no issues with them in the two big snowstorms we had last year in Buffalo NY
Perfect timing! I'm going to go make some popcorn then come back and watch this video over and over again, thanks!
I'm back! This is excellent and even better than I was going for.
You illuminated one of the mysteries that had me baffled (no spoilers, everyone has to watch the video to see what I am talking about) and now I have to rework my explanation of which tires to select for my family and friend's needs.
Fantastic job, thank you!
Hope you enjoy
I have been using the Canadian Tire motormaster winter tires here in Central BC for the last 15 years
We get huge amounts of snow and have never been let down with these tires
your videos and tests are invaluable. i cant believe you dont have more subscribers. thank you for your work!
Best content ever! Could you please add more videos focusing on MT, AT and hybrid tyres. ❤
Thanks for your excellent reviews. Recently bought the Trail Terrains and have been happy so far. Looking forward to getting them in the snow soon.
Glad you like them! Get a review on www.tire-reviews.com sometime :)
Even I don´t have a SUV or Big Truck nor will i buy one, i love every Tire Review on this channel!
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Great video as always. Hope we can get more winter testing with all terrains. I really want to see the cooper discoverer at3 4s taken around the track.
It's planned :)
Heck yeah. Looking forward to it.@@tyrereviews
I just got those on my Ram 1500. So far I like them, but haven't had any snow yet to test them in the snow. Soon...
Been waiting for this for ages and you never disappoint, always leave me with more questions. Guess I'm now waiting for a review of more aggressive all terrain tyres and I'll have all the information I'll ever need. Unless you fancy reviewing motorbike tyres 😇
Great review with actual road testing on snow covered roads as we do have here in Canada and as others experience too. I have Firestone Destination XT tires and after removing my Michelin Defender LTX MS (all season, not an AT tire if some readers don’t know), I found the XT to be near as quiet as the Michelin and no noticeable fuel penalty plus they’ve been great on highway and gravel roads. Mine have stepped full depth sipes and are 3 Peak rated. A sleeper of a tire. All that said, I am comfortable to use them in winter, especially snow, yet I use a dedicated winter tire (Nokian Hakk LT3 studded = no sense in fooling around with snow and ice)
This video is amazing! Been waiting for this😄
Hope you enjoyed it!
Thank god this channel exists!!
I sell tires in North Dakota and the BFG Trail Terrain is a popular tire! Although maybe not as capable for off-road traction as the Falken Wildpeak AT3W, they are a quieter tire if you drive a lot of highway. Prices are usually very close on them both, but I have sold a lot of those BFGs and customers are happy with them
Feel good seeing this. I had Firestone destination AT tires back in the day. I really liked them. Just purchased a set of the AT2s for my Grand Cherokee. Living in central NY snow is a thing.
Love that you've put this together! When are you putting out the 23/24 Snow and Ice Tire test? I've been waiting to see what you have to say this year before buying some new winters!
Would love to have seen the Wildpeak AT3W in this. I've loved the performance of these on snow and dry offroad.
I am on my second set of the Wild Peak AT3, putting them on a month ago on my 2018 F250. I travel across CO, WY, MT, ID and WA different times of the year. Wild Peak has been by far the best winter tire I have run.
I have the AT3Ws, they are significantly worse than even the cheapest dedicated snow tires.
Wife and I have wild peaks at3 on our rigs. We both have snow tires that don’t seem like we will need them this year. Really impressive so far. We live in a snowy area of NW montana
@rippinrogers you obviously have never driven the wildpeaks in snow. They are considered one of the best AT tires in winter/wet conditions.
@@JRs-guitars I have driven them in the snow. Like I said, they are significantly worse than even the cheapest dedicated winter snow tires. They are rock hard rubber at 0F. It’s just physics.
I must say I'm running BF Goodrich trail terrains on my 2015 Toyota Tacoma off-road edition second generation. I was a little bit nervous about heading up above the Arctic Circle with them. But, they've done a great job in the snow. Even in heavy snow 8" I've kept it in two-wheel drive and the traction has been excellent.
I'm so glad I didn't change them out for a set of KO2s before going on my trip. I still have quite a bit of tread on My trail terrains and they should get me through most of this winter as I travel around North America.
Glad they're working out for you, get a review on www.tyrereviews.com sometime :)
Thank you once again for great content & your dedicated tyre rating work with unparalleled stand-out knowledge. I'm a winter, summer tyre person and the winter tyre result in this, speaks for itself.
It would be great, if somehow in the future, you gained UK/North American day/evening TV access, either as a news add-on (ITV this morning add-on!) or your own mini series of 30 mins, properly sponsored and supported by a TV network. Sadly news & TV networks don't care about useful saving lives content. So thank you for your amazing RUclips channel.
It would be nice if at least car shows would talk a tiny bit about tires!
On your recommendation I fitted my Skoda Yeti with Crossclimate 2s.
I have to say I’m just thrilled with them.
Last year’s “Snowmaggedon” just before Christmas was one of the most joyful drives I’ve ever had.
Thank you for your videos. I really like your channel. It would be great to see a test with all season tyres for vans like the Ducato or Sprinter.
Here I am. Watching content about all terrain tyres in the snow, while I'm living in Belgium with 1cm of snow/year and having nothing else than summer tyres under my car. Not watching for the information, but for the excellent content ✌️ thanks Jonathan
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Great reviews. Thanks.
It's good to see that the Yokohama's are still a decent winter tire. They are the only three peak tire that comes in sizes small enough to fit on most sedans. I had absolute confidence in most conditions in my Camry when I had them on until they started hydroplaning badly once down to about 4/32-5/32 tread depth.
Great that you finally did this video - thanks very much
How about testing ATs in snow vs All Seasons in snow?
My Canadian made Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3 tires are by far the best tires I have ever owned. They do everything very well...and quiet. And I grew up in Michigan in the 1970s running winter tires with studs.
great follow up to the previous testing. as of yesterday i now have a set of the Destination AT2's on my Xterra. and yes, i well remember Arnold going on about the pump!
Yay, good choice, leave a review once you've got some experience!
early impressions, having replaced a very old and worn set of Toyo open country AT2's...... the Firestones are quiet and more damped, smoother. as west coast monsoons have begun, it's been a revelation - traction and tracking in heavy rain is incredible. accelerating through corners now possible (rear drive SUV), where the old tires were downright sketchy. on and off ramps are like it was dry. very impressed and happy so far. this weekend i'll seek out a subalpine lake, up a steep switchbacked, eroded and challenging road. i'll air down and see how they manage this terrain as they are clearly a superior on road tire. stoked on them!
I had the Firestone At-2 and they were awesome in the snow.
I appreciate to see the all-season tire included here. On small SUV's I often am torn between the trail terrain and the CrossClimate 2 so this is a nice crossover
I am also,I went with cc2
CC2 will have better snow performance than these, it's the tyre I use on my wifes SUV in the winter.
Recently grabbed the cc2's and I've never been more eager for winter snow 😅
Have you ever become stuck off road even once because of a lack of traction? If the answer is no then get the Cross climate 2. I find it funny people buy these all terrain tires and never take their vehicles on more than a gravel road yet they drive on icy snowy roads many time per winter.
@@DMSparky yes, many times haha. Also, multiple flats per year on rough roads.
I really like this video, this is exactly the type of comparison review I’ve been looking for. I know your not making this video for me and my situation, but but doing this comparison with other tires would be awesome. Unfortunately none of these are tires I’m really interested in, aside from the Toyo I wouldn’t say any of these are popular tires in my region. In the area I live in Canada my tire needs might be a bit different than most, I regularly need deep snow performance accessing off highway FSR’s and the backcountry as well as needing good winter road manners. I’m currently running falkens, but duratac’s are kind of the industry standard. Popular mentions are the grabber atx, geolander at xd, bfg at2. Thanks for the video, hope to see more of them.
Thanks! I enjoy your youtubes. We only get snow a few times a year here. I put the firestone destination a/t2 on tundra last year. It is such a good all around tire for what I need from a tire here in Washington state. The 4runner will be getting them soon.
Glad you're enjoying it, you should get a review on www.tire-reviews.com sometime :)
Good morning from Northern Ontario. We get a long winter up here and snow often arrives mid to late November. I used to run BFG AT TA tires all year but I didn’t like the traction they had on hard pack and icy roads. To make things safer for me I decided to invest in a second set of rims and I researched tires before I found your site and ordered Nokia Hakkapeliitta Studded winter tires. I have yet to regret my decision. Luckily we get enough cold winter and snow that I’m not wearing down the studs on the tire! I can’t believe the difference between AT and studded winter truck tires. I’ve been recommending this to most of my friends. If you live where you get lots of snow and hard packed snowy roads Nokia Hakkapeliitta studded tires are the way to go. I have already booked my install appointment for late November so I can safely hit the highway and side roads on the way to our annual deer hunt! Love your show. I will be reviewing your feed to see what tire you recommend that could replace the BFG AT TA as my primary spring, summer and fall tire. I really don’t need the aggressiveness or weight of the BFG’s and would like to replace them with a superb load range C tire. My truck is a 2020 F150 4x4 with a 3.5 Eco boost.
Love your long videos
Thanks for watching!
Surprised you didn’t include Falken Wildpeak AT3W. That has massive following.
That's a more aggressive AT tire, working on a test with it
@@tyrereviews a comparision to the AT3WA would also be nice ... as this is the one mostly avaiable in Europe.
@@tyrereviews I would love to see the comparison between KO2, AT3W and Open Country AT3. I was hoping to see AT3WA (which I currently have on my car) in this video. It's less agressive than AT3W, but sadly like another person below said, not available in most Europe
the dudes clueless, the at3w is the top of the AT snow game, all other tires are beneath it.
And the WA :)
Fantastic video!!!! I have those BF Goodrich Trail Terrain tyres they have been great for the first year I have had them. I am not surprised pure snow tyres are the best in the snow, but for all weather tyres I have been super pleased with these tyres in snow, rain, dry, on gravel, and grass roads. Please keep making these fantastic videos!!!!
Glad you're enjoying them, you should get a review on www.tire-reviews.com sometime :)
Cool shoes. Also looks freezing! 🥶
I recently refreshed my winter tires on my pickup. I had been running the Viking Contact 7 for a few years. I had previously used the Xi2 and Xi3 tires from Michelin too. This is my first winter on their newer Snow SUV model, so I'm curious how it compares. One thing I liked about the Viking Contact 7 was it was pretty circular in its traction. It didn't really care which direction you were going. It was also largely indifferent to surfaces too and even handled water very well. What was especially interesting with the Viking Contact 7 was how well it behaved down to very low grip, even down to the wear bars. Even with just a few mm left on the tires, they still handled snow, water, and loose surfaces, and they did this better than most other tires, including the previous Michelins. I'm curious to see how the new Snow model handles snow and ice at full tread depth but also how it retains grip as it wears out in the coming years. I suspect they may not hold up quite as well when the milimeters get low. The Continentals were surprisingly unphased by tread depth, and that's rare in a tire.
Very good video buddy and very usable. Thanks a lot! 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I moved to a snowy area last winter and it just happened to be the "worst" winter in decades. I put X Ices on my FWD car and I was passing truck bros with BFG KO2s. A few locals told me that snow tires were overkill but I'd rather have maximum traction and not have to drive 25mph on the highway.
Yeah, they’ll sit there all day and say you should get an AWD for snow or you’re going to get stuck. Look who’s laughing now!!
Great video! I'd love to see the Vredestein Pinza AT in your next round of testing.
I had two sets of Cooper AT3 4S tires on my Wrangler Unlimited. They were 3PMSF rated and performed very well in the snow.
I used to run Michelin Cross Climate 2’s on my Navara, they were fantastic in the cold and snow but I didn’t find them very durable. I was frequently getting punctures and also found they wore quickly. I’m now running a full set of Michelin Latitude Cross which I’ve been getting on really well with at nearly 10k miles in. Interested to see how they get on over the winter months.
I love the Defender LTX. Cushy, quiet, comfortable, LONG lasting, and those sipes 👀 Something the Defender LTX has that a lot of other tires (especially all-terrains) don't have are full depth sipes, and the LTX is chock full of them. The A/T tires might be 3PMSF rated when new, but a lot of those sipes are gone after a while and it becomes much worse in the snow, almost like a summer tire with A/T knobbies. I'm a bit surprised the BFG KO2 wasn't chosen over the the trail terrain TA, but I understand that it's probably closer in tread aggressiveness to the A/T's in this test. Good video as always!
I've run the G015 on multiple SUVs and will continue to do so. It looks like there are better snow tires but for all around traction especially wet roads and even light icing, they have always done very well for me. I ran the Wildpeak AT3 on my truck and not sure if it was the light back end but they weren't as forgiving in the wet. Did well in the snow though, never ran them on icy conditions.
Exactly what I was looking for! I have a Ford F-150, and I’d love to see the new Michelin Defender LTX MS 2, and the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
Thanks tire dad. Just bought a set of Michelin LTX m/s. for my 23 f150. :)
that's ok tire son, let me know how you like them!
How do you like the tires as far as MPG lost or gain? These are all my number one spot, however we take family ski vacations and I need that 3 peak rating. Wish this tire had that.
@@MrFordguy73as an avid skier in Canada I would never take my family on a ski holiday without proper winters or at least the very good all weather tires. It’s not about your driving ability it’s your ability to make an evasive maneuver the on coming mini van with summer tires that’s sliding into your lane on a down section. I see your profile picture, as a guy who also owns an old truck, it sucks when you’re driving on the highway and suddenly the rear of nearly your unloaded truck starts to try to overtake the front. Old trucks have terrible weight distribution for winter traction and are mostly driven in RWD because most of those older trucks don’t like driving in 4WD at highway speed.
@@DMSparky your pretty spot on. My 2000 has been in the Rockies so many times and it's been good, even went up a few 4x4 trails in the snow. However an incline with two open diffs only goes so far. But, those open diffs have been pretty good for ice driving, basically a poor man's traction control because there's always one tire that's just stabilizing the truck in a slippery condition. That being said it's been good to know the trucks character in the ice and know how it responds and most importantly don't be over confident.
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Great AT tire reviews. Hoping you might be able to add some input I have a sprinter van weighting it at 8,500 lbs loaded. Originally I wanted the Firestone AT but, it’s not available in LT truck tires. The other 3 that are on my list is the Cooper AT3 and the Hankook Dynapro AT, Hercules Terra Trac ATX.
Currently I have the Pirellis Scorpions AT. They are loud from 35 mph to 80 mph and require constant rotation every 5,000. Have 40,000 miles on them and maybe only another 5,000 left on the tread.
Thanks again and keep up the excellent reviews
A fun fact I learned recently is that Michelin tread wear warranty on X-Ice Snow is the same 2/32 as regular tires. So to get the warranty you have to drive on bald winter tires in the winter (using them in the summer which is May-September voids the warranty even though I routinely get May and September snow).
Super surprise to see how well the BFGoodrich Trail Terrain did! Would love to see how these compare to the Falken Wildpeaks.
Looking forward to seeing how your upcoming aggressive tire test works, especially in LT rated tires (and the Duratrac). I’m another Alberta guy and drive a Superduty (previously 2016 F150) with 20’ cargo trailer to work and back from Edmonton to Calgary and onto Vancouver over the famous Coquihalla hiway and in between will see every possible snow and ice combination in winter months. Choosing the right tire isn’t just recreation, it’s literally a life or death decision when you are passing and braking in the worst conditions imaginable.
Harder to design a test, but it would also be interesting to see those same tires groups at 50% tread and not just 100%.
Thanks again, and props on the visual and sound quality (from a professional cinematographer)
for your application and truck i've read great things about a couple options; the Falken Wildpeak already mentioned many times, and the Firestone Destination XT's, the hardcore version of the AT/2 in this test. only come in LT and great reviews. hope he includes it in a future test.
Some day I would love to see a deep snow comparison, although I love snow tires on road however most of us run aggressive all terrain’s in the winter because they clean out in the deep snow
in canada in the north where the snow is hard pack or deep AT 3 peaks work well , but most in the cities and hwy driving is light snow and ice where you need a dedicated winter otherwise 3 peak AT's are bascially hockey pucks. like he says the use case for the tyre is important.
I love the new winter rated All Weather tires, I put on a new set of Weatherpeaks in August here in Phoenix and they were great in the extreme heat. And I have the option to use them in the snow in Flagstaff without worry. Needed this type of tire 20 years ago.
every truck i owned was either goodyear wrangler or bfg same type and tread they were like a good pair of shoes you knew what to expect and somedays they blew your mind I am in a frontier now and went for Falken wild peak one they were 680 mounted and balanced and they make the pro 4x look really nice so far it is an exceptional tire at a great price.
What a great video. When did you film this. Last year in Michigan? Looks like a really nice winter day. :)
I found the best part of this video is you wheeling the steering wheel. Like it's nothing while still saying engaged with your audience. Great job!
Fantastic content. Impressive how BFG have improved the snow abilities of their all terrain tyres.
...and the Trail Terrain aren't even the "good" ones in the snow! I replaced my TTs with a set of KO2s, and noticed a remarkable improvement. They're at least as good, if not better than any dedicated winter tire I've ever used, especially on ice.
Thanks!
As an MTU graduate with my own Keweenaw Research Center Snow Test jacket, this video was pleasing to see. Dang I miss that driving in crazy deep snow.
It's a really great facility, there's a few on the channel from there
Perfect content
I'll tell you what, I have found the Toyo open county AT3 to be a fantastic tire all around. Great for highway and summer road driving. Awesome tire offroad and mild trails. The snow performance is where I was really impressed. You have to really work to get them to spin in deep and icy conditions. Absolutely love them.
good to hear. Must moved to Utah and put those on my grand cherokee.
I found the AT3 to be great in deep snow, but downright sketchy in transition temperatures where there was a mix of ice and slush on the roads. A foot of snow was no problem though.
Here I am in Perth, Western Australia & haven’t even seen snow, let alone drive on it.
Why do I watch?? Because it’s simply the Gold STD in Tyre testing with the best information available.
Watch out for spiders
Just bought a set of x-ice snow SUVs for my new Rivian R1S. Can't wait for winter!!
I just got the trail terrain, no snow yet but we'll see my opinion. I was running Maxxis Razr before and they were great in the snow and for off roading I do they were great there as well. On road were great.
Edit: They are fantastic in the snow. When I want to play, I can, with confidence. When I don't, they just perform amazing and give great confidence.
Great video, I would have loved to have seen the nokian outpost at, especially as their winter tires are so good
Got a test with that coming soon :)
Just grabbed some x-ice SUV for my macan gts. Can't wait to see how it performs in the MN winter.
woot!!! new vid!
2 tires that were high on my list prior to my Firestone purchase: the Nokian Outpost nAT, which (as i'm sure you are well aware) is only now coming into production, and the Sumitomo Encounter AT. i had the Encounters on a full size truck, LT tires and they were exceptional. the Nokian most piqued my interest given the brand, and marketing hype. durability and toughness are my primary question mark with the Destinations, which is ostensibly a strong point of the Outposts. one thing is clear, despite the challenges of designing AT tires, there are many very good ones. look forward to future reviews.
The way I see the two tyres is the nAT is more offroad bias and the Firestone is more road bias. I expect them to be similar in the snow.
Great video. Have you ever tried to do a similar comparison but on off road ?
How does an AS tire stuck up with an all terrain one ?
I really enjoy your reviews and the objective style. However, the biggest reason I use at tires on my truck is for the ability to keep you from getting stuck in deep snow. To be fair, I’ve never ran snow tires on my current truck, but I feel that the shallow tread patterns (relatively) give a disadvantage in this areas compared to deep and knobby at tires. For those of us who have to plow feet of snow it would be interesting to test depth of snow when driving at a slow speed (not wot relying on traction control). With that said, AT tires do have other benefits besides handling and grip as well where I may consider them over a winter tire even if raw traction is better.
Falken Wildpeak AT3W are becoming really popular around here. Would love to see you review them next time.
Thanks for a great work done! Pleasure to watch your channel!
If Nokias outpost nAT would be in this competition what place would it get ?
Is it any better than BFG or Firestone ?
Thanks for using a Full size truck F150 as a review. Lots of trucks come with factory A/T tire package or Chevy Suburban owners. Better than small pickup most don’t drive these days.
Trucks on snow are really fun too
I heard very good things about Cooper AT3 4S snow and ice performance, being considered to perform above midrange winter tyres , I would have loved to see that tire compared with the rest + the Nokian Outpost also.
" Go with the Coopers "
I had the predecessor to the Defender LTX MS….The LTX MS2 on my truck when I first bought it. They were relatively new, and the first snow fall was scary to say the least. I expected less overall grip than the winter tires I was used to. What I did not expect was the overall lack of confidence they gave. The moment they broke traction, you were done. Breaking traction was also very easy.
Those were replaced with a set of Cooper XT4s, which were an snow rated all terrain. These were much better overall…but I found their lateral grip to be lacking when compared to their longitudinal grip. You could easily misjudge the speed entering a turn based on the braking feel. They were otherwise, a very good tire.
Now I’m running Nokian Rotiivas, which are another winter rated AT. These have been my favourites to date. Excellent grip in the dry, wet, and in the snow. Not as good on ice as the hakkappelliittas, but still very good. What I like best about them is how well rounded they are. The lateral and longitudinal grip profiles are very similar…so when yours slowing to make a turn, you gain easily judge the grip you’ll have in the turn by the grip you have braking. Very well rounded and confidence inspiring tires!
GReat info, it would be great if you could put some reviews on www.tyrereviews.com as I don't think any of those tires have been reviewed
Agreed on the Michelin LTX M&S. They are a good summer tire with amazing tread wear but I considered them dangerous in winter conditions in northern Canada and wouldn’t run them while living there. You take off sideways on a slippery road with them on and you’re just along for the ride at that point hoping you stop sliding before you reach the edge of the road. On the other hand I live in a colder coastal climate now with combined freezing rain, slush and ice being common and the Michelin X-Ice 3 I run on my SUV are absolutely amazing in these driving conditions.
@@squangan In my experience, it was the colder weather where the Michelin LTX was more acceptable. I’m in the prairies, and the wet, slushy, early winter snow and ice is where the Michelins were downright scary to drive. They improved significantly as it got properly cold out…but that is likely due to the snow itself having more grip at those temperatures more than anything.
Just to contrast…my current Nokians at their worst in winter are vastly superior to what the Michelins were at their best. The best way to describe the feeling between the 2 is that the Nokians will begin to slip at around 70% of their grip level. You can feel it coming, and are able to make an immediate and slight adjustment in order to keep things going straight. The Michelins on the other hand would begin to slip at around 95% of their grip level. By the time you began to slip, you had very little grip remaining to make the necessary corrections to keep things straight, leading to a very white knuckle driving experience.
You're right about the Defender LTX models. They are absolute death traps in the winter conditions we have here in the high altitude rockies. Worst tire mistake I've ever made in 20 years of living in the high rockies. After a near-death experience in them, I pulled into the garage, recovered my senses, and ripped them off the rims, replacing them with a set of old Duratracs that I had from another vehicle I wasn't currently using. My SUV was finally safe to drive again. The fact that the LTX tires are rated so well on this test, simply means that this test is not accurate, at least not for the conditions where I live.
I wish You tested Kumho AT52 - which I have a pleasure to snow test these days. It is very good on snow. When I compare them to old iteration of KO2s they are genious. So underrated and a bargain. Unfortunatelly we do not have Trail terrain here in Poland
It seems like what you need. It doesn’t matter to me the max performance of tires on wet or dry track but the braking distance on snow and wet
I live in Norway and bought a set of General Grabber AT3 in june 2023 (215/70-16 on a Subaru Forester). I wanted to see if they actually can do the job as a all year tire here with up to 35c in summer and minus 30c and a lot of snow during winter. And I gotta say I absolutely love them. My studded winter tires have not been on so far this winter and I don't think i will need them either. General have done a really good job with Grabber AT3.
Years ago I had a set of Mastercraft A/T ( made by Cooper) tires on a Jeep Cherokee they did great, off road/snow & ice, would like to see the newer ones tested. I've been running Yokohama Geolander on my Yukon and Sierra the last 5 years in Northern Indiana without issue. I like the stiff sidewall and they work well in the snow/rain/dry and they are quiet, also have a 60,000 mile warranty, the highest I believe for a A/T tire. Needing tires for a 2013 Avalanche, may go with Yoko or Firestone, not sure yet.
Honestly, crossclimate 2 looks as a great option honestly. Especially if it's a secondary daily or similar.
We would love to see dry and wet handling and braking of the Michelin LTX M/S. It is one of the few tires that fits a 4Runner limited and the one we chose to put on ours.
I'll try in the future :)
Lovew the content! Are there any tests for nordic or studded tires planned for this year?
I will not be doing one sadly, though my test from last year should still be current and I'll get some other tests on the site
I'm gonna link this video in so many forums and Facebook debates
Thanks :D
Very interesting video as usual!
I would be happy to get a suggestion too, I often get to ride on deep fresh snow, from 10, (more often) to 40-50cm (not so often but it's not so strange to wake up with 50cm of fresh snow) and even the parking lot get cleaned so rarely that almost every day I park in 30cm of soft snow, and from time to time I just get stuck with no chance to keep going without the help of a shovel. What tires do you suggest?
Now running on Ice-zero studded on the Captur AWD, and IceContact studded tires on the Patriot
What country is this test track in...its great!! Love the tyre testing too! Best on the net!
Houghton, North Michigan (in jan this year)
The fact that the Michelin Defender did so well just underscores how good and well rounded this tire really is and why so many people run them on their rigs. Their reputation for durability is superb too. Everyone, who drives long enough, has either had these tires or know someone who has. I'm sure a lot of people would love for Michelin to just make the side wall a little more aggressive for better off roading.
Yeah, but who can afford them? In America Michelin tires are the most expensive name brand tire you can but. No tire shops stock them because people can't afford them
@@Skilful_basics8 they are widely available at Costco and BJs. And because they are durable and last a long time,when you factor in cost per mile, Michelin comes out on top again.
@@Skilful_basics8I’ll sell you these exact tires off my 4Runner.
They're amazing tires, my wife's car got 70k miles out of them as well. Last a long time
What boots are those? Also great video 🤙
I'm getting the Pirelli's installed tomorrow. Up here in in coastal Atlantic Canada our snow typically starts in earnest after Christmas and we can get a snow storm a week up until the end of April. My brother swears by Defenders, so we'll see how I make out.
This is ands down best tire information I have come across for these tires. I even paid for consumer reports only to find they don't test all terrain tires for any kind of dirt, gravel, rocks or mud.
I've been running the trail terrains on my Avalanche for the past 2 years and they are phenomenal in the snow and ice.
Amazing video as always, i wish falken wildpeak at trail was included
Me too, next time :)
Falken wildpeak is often considered as the best AT snow tire. Would love to see a road test for those on your channel. And also the KO2s!
I just got a set of trail terrains for my 2wd Duster, i had a set of used studded winter tyres on before i switched. I live in the upper southern part of Sweden about 58,5 degrees north in latitude. Last week we had lots of snow and ice on the roads and temperatures of -15 to - 7 celsius. To day we got a slushy mess with ice underneath. So I have tested the BFg TTs in all kinds of winter conditions, cant say i felt much of a different in daly driving compared to the studded tyres. The other day i drowe up a hill where the snow got so compacted it turned to ice, could barely walk up the hill and a car on dedicated winter tyres was lying in the ditch because he slid down backwards. I got up just fine without slipping or tripping the anti spin. On the car i had before (Hyundai 4wd Santa Fe mk1 with viscous diffs ) i ran a set of BFg ko2. Run the same tyres 3 winters and never had a traction or braking problem. I even pulled someone out of a ditch that went sliding on regular winter tyres. So my verdict is that I’m really happy with the winter performance of both the BFg TT and the Ko2 for the unpredictable whether in Sweden. Next week will be above freezing and all the snow will melt and the road will get dry. Not so fun driving with studded tyres on dry and snow/ice free roads. The week after that we might get another snowstorm and a few inches of snow on the road before the snow plows get to work. Or we wont get any more snow for the rest of the winter who knows.
This guy has the best job
I'm very lucky
I would love to see you do a review on the Mickey Thompson Baja boss at in the snow, I have there tires and I feel they are a really good tire
Driving review of this tire review: You would be hard-pressed to find a silkier-buttery-smooth display of vehicle drifting in any other U-Tube channel... Where did you learn to drive? Finland?😁😁
Those were interesting and eye-popping results, making these tire reviews even more important to watch and follow. It's even more impressive considering all the man-hours, hard work, difficult weather conditions, and editing that go into these productions.
Thank you! Just wisj the falken wildpeak at3/w had been included
Next time for sure :)
Goodyear AT adventure is available with the 3peak ❄️ symbol, but for some reason, only at certain speed ratings. Would have been interesting to see if they did any better! Great review must take you ages to get these tests organised!
Ya I had them on f150 were snow flake rated
I've found this out since publishing, there seem to be quite a few sizes with three peak!
@@tyrereviews I orderd some after watching your AT review! but found it really strange that the size 65 /60/18/110H has the 3peek rating but the same size just a lower speed rating dose not? It must be made different because the sound rating is different on the 3peek rated tyre. Think BFG KO2 is the same as seen that with and without the 3peek rating.
These are some of the most casual drift shots, just chatting while pulling off a scandi flick.
I would like to see a tire test with different snow conditions (slush, dry snow and glare ice) also studded vs non studded version of the same tire, then what is the performance of these tires at 50% worn, I know it’s a big ask but would really provide more information.