I just sold a set at my dealership to a fantastic customer of mine! Great news for him! I will recommend them to other customers in the nice 275/60R20 slightly over size for the Tundra. Japanese tire company that's improved over many years!
I have a set of A/T4W's on my 2023 GMC Denali Dually and I can't say I share your enthusiasim. I have been selling tires for 35 years and last year I decided to try a set of these Falkens in 255/80R17 on my dually. I sold the OEM Michelins that the truck came with because they were wearing fast and I didn't like the traction at around 8K miles. I bought the Falkens and also a set of Toyo Open Country RT Trails both in the same size. I mounted the Toyo's on a separate set of wheels to be my hunting tires. Right now I think I might have about 8k on each set of tires. I measured the Falkens today and the rears are at 13/32nds and the fronts are at 15/32nds and in this size they start with 17/32 nds. The Toyo's are about the same in the tread depth department, but they only come with 16/32nds. I tow heavy on occassion and I would say at least 60% of the miles on both sets of tires are towing heavy. As far as traction goes I like the Toyo's better. I really can't say how good the Falkens are in the snow, because I like the Toyo's better, so I keep them on for winter and will switch back to the Falkens in the spring if I don't sell them first. I have had to rebalance the Falkens 3 times and they still don't ride super smooth. The Toyos ride great as long as the inner wheels don't get filled up with mud. The Toyo's have a 45k warranty and the Falkens are 60k, but they will never make it there on this truck. The Falkens are much noisier than I thought they would be at slower speeds, under 45 mph but quiet down a bit going faster. The Toyo's are noisier overall. In the wider tire sizes I think the Falken looks a lot beefier, but in the narrow 255 it really isn't very impressive.
In my experience with HD (diesel) pickups, its the fronts that always wear quicker. I always chalked it up to constant turning/steering under the weight of the heavy front end.
Same experience so far with my set on my Outback Wilderness. They are much more comfortable over small bumps, potholes, etc. Was surprised given the 3 ply design and warranty period. Size 235/65/17
I recently bought a lightly used 2022 Power Wagon with 17,000 miles on the clock. The truck came with 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers which looked to be about half done. I've ordered a tread depth gauge to check them for wear and will do the miles per 32nd of an inch like you did. I'm looking ahead to what I will buy to replace them and between your video and a lot of other RUclipsrs' videos I'm convinced to buy a set of Falken Wildpeak AT4's for my PW.
Thanks for your review. Because of your video, I just ordered the A/T 4's. I have a 2017 Tundra Pro. I hopefully will have the same wear with a lighter truck.
I have stock tacoma atm and ive been debating between falken at4w or toyo at3...im in the pnw lots of wet weather l, theyre saying toyo is better tire for said conditions but man im really liking the falken at4w look
@@Deuce_Dufresne He's talking about the NEW AT4W's, not the AT3W's you have. They significantly increased the weight on them. The model you have, is now discontinued. Be aware that if you opt for the new Wildpeaks, your gas mileage is definitely going to take a hit because now they are close to KO2 weight. I wouldn't recommend the new ones for Tacomas unless you don't care about MPG.
I'm running Falken 285/70/17 AT3w's on my 2000 4Runner and have about 40K miles on them. The tread depth still looks better than 50%. These are the best tires I've ever owned. I used to run BFG's and the Falkens are far superior in the snow, rain, dry and off road. I'm not a mud guy, so they haven't been exposed to a lot of that. I've had a few close calls on dry pavement and they have shown excellent traction in heavy braking and evasive maneuvering. Great tire...I'll certainly buy them again.
I’m thinking about putting the same size on my 4Runner. Torn between AT3W and AT4W because as you know the 4Runner is a bit underpowered and the AT4W is 7 pounds heavier per tire I think. That’s my only hang up. Either way I’m glad to hear they’re working out in this size on a 4Runner. You get any rubbing? What’s your lift?
@@Cortezuma I have a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100 shocks and Old Man Emu springs. I have a -10 offset on 17" x 8.5" rims. I also have the wide factory wheel well flares. I had to trim a small wedge on the front of the bottom of the flares approx 1/2" x 3" tall. The plastic wheel well liner sticks out about 1/2" to cover the pinch weld and I get a slight rub only in reverse at full lock of the steering wheel on the pinch weld bulge. It wasn't bad enough to do any modification to the liner or the pinch weld especially since it is only in reverse. I recommen the -10 offset wheels to help with clearance on the upper control arms. I also installed SPC adjustable upper control arms to help get the alignment close to factory spec. Had a vibration at 60 mph and installed a front diff drop to get the axel angle closer to stock...that solved the vibration. Diff drop kit from JEGS was about $35...2 long bolts and 2 spacer washers.
I have same size on jeep gladiator, but since Rubicon is 4:10 gears, next likely be 285/75/R17 AT 4, tfl off-road gave them a poor review and I laughed at his snow ❄️ testing. I live in central Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 and I have no inhibitions about getting them.
How's the Road noise? Looking to get the same size for my Taco but my wife is very noise sensitive (with the hum). I'm currently running the stock highway tires that came with my Tacoma.
Nice video! I just got these tires, and they are new enough that there is not a lot of real data on them yet. Your video, and the way you went about creating it, was exactly what I was looking for. I have a 4Runner with these tires in a 285mm wide size, and they seem great so far. Thanks for sharing this data!!
Looking at a similar wheel/tire set up for my F250? Would you share the wheel offset you have and the tire size? Also, what level or lift was needed for this setup to avoid any rubbing?
I have a F350 and the inside and outside of the front tires always go first. I have replaced ball joints and had the alignment checked multiple times. Of course the rear is a dully so they will last longer. the heave diesel engine takes a toll on tires.
how are the front tires doing?? you only focused on rears and I get it,, but nice to show both going forward.. how about feel when pullng like RV or heavy trailer and tire sway?? the 4W is a 3 ply side wall vs 2..
A longer warranty is more often than not just a sales tactic. 70% of customers never use their warranty is todays tire market and the manufacturers know that. That being said I’ve always been happy with my wildpeaks. Great bang for the buck tire.
One thing i find is you HAVE TO insist on adjustment of price on miles if the tire are at the 2/32 mark and are under the warranty miles.. If you are are at 55K on 60K miles at 2/32 where is not a lot of discount.. but at 30K on 2/32 there is almost half.. They will not make the adjustment you HAVE TO make them adjust..
Small world. Couldn’t help but notice your Facebook name on the back of the truck. I’m in bowling green myself. Started following you originally when researching the RT01. Been looking at those for my Bronco. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Either gonna be the falken RT or the Toyo RT trail. Leaning towards the falken.
@@TheDREWHEBERTWell, the A/T3Ws were known for good snow performance, but everyone’s talking about how the 4s seem to be a step back in that particular area, but people haven’t actually been through a winter with them to give accurate assessments yet.
i have 255/80r17 at3w on my colorado zr2. falken is everything you say. i have almost 50K and they look great. rocks, snow wet are all no problem. mud is meh. i'm wqaiting for them to wear out so i can get the at4w.
Just put a new set of AT4Ws on my '93 XJ at the beginning of April. New KO2s on my '03 F150 in late January. I split my time between the two vehicles. It'll be interesting to see how each holds up. The KO2s are my third set since leaving Goodyear Wranglers. Typically get about 40-45 on the KO2s before they start getting noisy as hell. Time will tell, but so far, I really like both tires. New Michelin Cross Climate 2s on my wife's Camry. Got 50k on the first iteration of the Cross Climates. To be honest, the Michelins are better than either off-road tire in wet weather and are pretty dang good in snow. Just don't have the ground clearance on the car to really have fun in the snow.
That psi is for max weight rating, aka while towing or hauling a load. Check out the video CJC did about tire pressures… you’ll love those tires event more around 45psi
I had the AT3s on my F-150 and after they get about 50,000 miles on them I want to go ahead and got new ones. Unfortunately Falken tires were on back order back closer to like 2020 - 21. I got some nitto recon grapplers and I'm not really happy with them. I got the AT4's on our Bronco now and we have two or three thousand miles on them and so far we love them
Trucks looks good brother. I'm a huge Falken fan. Have a lifted Ram with 35x12.50 AT3W's and at 25,000 they look like they are just beginning to wear.......maybe....they may not wear at this rate.
Really trying to decide between these or ko3s. Have Baja boss at currently and been phenomenal. Have 100k miles on them so far. Just want a load d instead of a e for my needs.
I’ve had my AT4W’s for about 3k miles now, just rotated today since it was oil change time. Truck is a 24 Silverado 3500 Duramax SRW, weighs 8k empty. I pull 20k with it getting my machine from site to site at least weekly. Last tires I had were Yokohama geolandar X-AT’s, the rears didn’t last 10k. I have to run the rears at 70psi or the truck throws a low pressure message, even at that psi the Yokohamas sidewalls would pooch out a bit with the full tongue weight. The AT4W’s don’t budge. That’s something I need when pulling close to triple the weight of the truck. Same goes for the stability in cornering, I run 60psi up front and they show very little flex under side load while supporting the weight of that Duramax. Another big deal for me is the ratio of off-road grip needed to rolling resistance and wear. I think these AT4W’s are probably the industry leaders in that regard, it’s a true AT but with RT grip, in fact I think the only reason anyone would choose the RT01’s over these is for a more aggressive look. All in all, I’m thinking these are the bees knees for my truck and my application. I know a lot of off-roaders were upset that they made a much beefier, heavier and stiffer tire than the AT3W’s but that’s exactly what I needed, before these came out I wouldn’t even consider the AT3W’s.
I’ve used kos and ko2s dating back to the 90s. I’ve never had any issues with poor wear or poor traction. That’s one everything from 2500hd diesels to 4Runners. BFGs are very hard to beat.
I'm between these and the new KO3 for my 2012 F-250 farm truck. Sadly by 2012 fusion and 2017 forester also need new summer tires this year, so that's gonna suck. Not sure I'll put ATs on my fusion though 😂
Im at almost 50k on my AT3's..best tire I have owned to date on my all my trucks. I have 37 12.5 20's and wish they would make this size in the AT4's cause I am running out of tread.
Bought a set a month ago for my 2011 F150 FX4. I'm disappointed in the highway driving performac. The tires require a lot of driver attention to keep the truck on track compared to the Bridgestone Dueller Revos I had on it previously. I have to make small adjustments as if the steering is loose. I've had the car aligned by the top independent alignment shop in the area and the suspension checked, so this is not the issue. Has anyone else experienced this with these tires?
I noticed that they felt a little squirmy on the highway in my ‘21 Tundra TRD Pro. I was coming from a stock Michelin LTX A/T tire which is pretty tame though, so I’m not really sure if that had anything to do with that. I have about 5,000 miles on them now and I don’t really notice that issue anymore. I’m not sure if it had to do with letting the tires wear in, or if I’m just used to the handling characteristics now.
What size of tire are these and are they LT or SL or XL tires from Falken. If SL or XL are you worried you are running over max psi rating of about 50 psi?
I Agree with you on your BF Goodrich TAKO 2 opinion. What’s your take on the General Grabber ATX? I’ve got 50k on mine on a Super Duty and have loved them. Down to about 4-4.5 32nds. Down from 16 when new. Will be due for new ones again and contemplating something else or choosing General again.
In a standard size E rated 285/70/R17 these things weigh 10lbs more than KO3 and TOYO AT3 that’s 40lbs of extra rotational force and drag your trucks are trying to turn. Not only MPG is suffering. Your entire drive train and front end is suffering too. Sorry guys but I like lighter tires that do the exact same thing.
@@samazonprime3057 I have noticed the same thing with the tire weights. I think I will be going with the new KO3's. I have an new F150 powerboost ordered and would like to maintain as much fuel economy as possible with my A/T tire selection. The A/T4W's look nice but very heavy and I'm sure very tough also.
I’m looking to get a new set for my 2020 JGC TH. I have narrowed it down to either Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T or the Falken Wildpeak A/T4W. I do about 50-50 city/highway and (serious) off-roading here in the States. No winter use of my Jeep, so no snow as I’m in Europe then (with a different Jeep there). Any thoughts y’all? I’m indecisive here! TIA😊
In the next video you should show a method of how to remove paint overspray on a tire sidewall. I am fairly sure gasoline will remove it but that isn't the kindest to rubber, there are probably less aggressive compounds that can be used. Never tried liquid buffing compound other than on the wax type marker used to mark tires.
@@4-LOW Interesting, that has not been the same experience I have had if I didn't mask perfectly, also have seen purpose painted sidewalls in stripes to allow one to see the tire turning ( winter time with frozen brakes on a trailer ) and that paint just hung on. I would imagine it depends on the properties in the paint. On the other hand had they been worn out tires ... then it wouldn't matter in the least as the tires would hit the scrap tire pile. Masking tires is a total pain in the butt though, I'm sure you know all about that LOL.
Very impressed by the Nitto Ridge Grappler AT in Light Truck configuration (ie the highest ply and load capicity versus passenger rated - i think in the US they refer to Light Truck by another name). Keen to try Wildpeak AT3 in light truck also. The Duratrac is good but after 30,000 miles the Ridge Grappler seem slightly better. Wildpeaks are incredibly popular in Australia. Cheers
I got a set 4 weeks ago. I’m running 50 front 44 rear. Seems ok still testing. Their load range E shop filled them to 80 and they about bounced me to death
The wildpeaks are too heavy and hard hence why they last long. Think about it in an off road context, though. I’d rather have a more pliable and soft tire that airs down well and molds over rocks and lugs instead of a harder tire that lasts 65k miles.
Japanese owned companies always provide better value/quality than American companies. It’s not a coincidence that Falken happens to give you a good tire for the money. All the Japanese companies make good stuff. KYB struts, Hitachi parts, Denso parts…..even fishing gear like reels I buy Japanese because the quality for price exceeds American or other brands. The culture of corporate greed is an American thing so consumers suffer when forced to buy American.
Hey guys I know everything about these types of tires. I’ve owned them all… But guys wait… I’ve never had them on a heavy duty truck… lol lol clown shoes…
@@noahd4039 Lol. Since you asked, my ex US Marine MARSOC Raiders 2007 Oshkosh MTVR AMK23 armored 6x6 gun truck IS a heavy duty class 8 truck. The tires are 53" tall. We look DOWN into 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs on the interstate. I have to be careful at stop lights, because if I'm stopped behind a light-duty pickup like that F250, I might not even be able to see it, and I don't want to risk running over it accidentally when the light turns green. The MTVR is powered by a 732 cubic inch (12 liter) CAT intercooled turbodiesel with 1,550 foot-pounds of torque. You could put two "deuce and a half" 2-1/2 ton 6x6 trucks in the bed of our MTVR, and we'd still have several tons of payload capacity left over. You could load down a 5-ton 6x6 truck to it's maximum payload capacity by putting 10,000 pounds of stuff in it's bed, and then put the maxxed-out 5-ton 6x6 truck in the bed of our MTVR, and we still wouldn't be over our maximum GVWR.
@4-LOW The same reason Ford puts "Super Duty" on their light-duty pickups- to get people to buy them. Light duty trucks are class 1, 2, and 3 trucks with GVWRs up to 14,000 pounds. Medium duty trucks are class 4, 5, and 6 trucks with GVWRs up to 26,000 pounds. Heavy duty trucks are class 7 and 8 trucks with GVWRs over 26,000 pounds. For example, my ex U.S. Marine MARSOC Raiders 2007 Oshkosh MTVR AMK23 armored 6x6 gun truck is a heavy duty class 8 truck with a GVWR of 62,200 pounds. The double-beadlocked runflat tires are 53" tall. The 732 cubic inch (12 liter) CAT intercooled turbodiesel has 1,550 foot-pounds of torque. We look DOWN into 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs on the interstate. If I pull up at a stop light behind a light duty pickup like the one in this video, I may not be able to see it over my hood, so I have to remember it's there so I don't accidentally run over it when the light turns green.
That psi is for max weight rating, aka while towing or hauling a load. Check out the video CJC did about tire pressures… you’ll love those tires event more around 45psi.
I just sold a set at my dealership to a fantastic customer of mine! Great news for him! I will recommend them to other customers in the nice 275/60R20 slightly over size for the Tundra. Japanese tire company that's improved over many years!
I have a set of A/T4W's on my 2023 GMC Denali Dually and I can't say I share your enthusiasim. I have been selling tires for 35 years and last year I decided to try a set of these Falkens in 255/80R17 on my dually. I sold the OEM Michelins that the truck came with because they were wearing fast and I didn't like the traction at around 8K miles. I bought the Falkens and also a set of Toyo Open Country RT Trails both in the same size. I mounted the Toyo's on a separate set of wheels to be my hunting tires. Right now I think I might have about 8k on each set of tires. I measured the Falkens today and the rears are at 13/32nds and the fronts are at 15/32nds and in this size they start with 17/32 nds. The Toyo's are about the same in the tread depth department, but they only come with 16/32nds. I tow heavy on occassion and I would say at least 60% of the miles on both sets of tires are towing heavy. As far as traction goes I like the Toyo's better. I really can't say how good the Falkens are in the snow, because I like the Toyo's better, so I keep them on for winter and will switch back to the Falkens in the spring if I don't sell them first. I have had to rebalance the Falkens 3 times and they still don't ride super smooth. The Toyos ride great as long as the inner wheels don't get filled up with mud. The Toyo's have a 45k warranty and the Falkens are 60k, but they will never make it there on this truck. The Falkens are much noisier than I thought they would be at slower speeds, under 45 mph but quiet down a bit going faster. The Toyo's are noisier overall. In the wider tire sizes I think the Falken looks a lot beefier, but in the narrow 255 it really isn't very impressive.
In my experience with HD (diesel) pickups, its the fronts that always wear quicker. I always chalked it up to constant turning/steering under the weight of the heavy front end.
Same experience so far with my set on my Outback Wilderness. They are much more comfortable over small bumps, potholes, etc. Was surprised given the 3 ply design and warranty period. Size 235/65/17
Got 43,638 on my Wildpeak 37's and still going STRONG !!!! Really impressed with these tires on & off road !!!!
33” M/Ts on my jeep. Haven’t really rotated as I should have.., that being said, still got 40k out of them… 😳.
Just passed 65000 at3
Hey 4- LOW, thank you for your review, it helped me decided on my purchase for these tires' thanks bud.
I recently bought a lightly used 2022 Power Wagon with 17,000 miles on the clock. The truck came with 37" Nitto Trail Grapplers which looked to be about half done. I've ordered a tread depth gauge to check them for wear and will do the miles per 32nd of an inch like you did. I'm looking ahead to what I will buy to replace them and between your video and a lot of other RUclipsrs' videos I'm convinced to buy a set of Falken Wildpeak AT4's for my PW.
Same. Will go from Nitto Ridge Grappler to these. Just need something better for snow/rain.
Just got a set for my jeep had their muds before and loved them. One of my favorite tires
Running AT3W's from 2018. Been running them the entire time. Just now starting to think of getting some new ones.
PU AT3W in 2018 for 05 GMC 1500 4X4. 40k miles amd 7/32 left. Just put AT4W on my Duramax 2500HD. Best tires I have ever owned!!
Thanks for your review. Because of your video, I just ordered the A/T 4's. I have a 2017 Tundra Pro. I hopefully will have the same wear with a lighter truck.
Love my AT-3Ws on my Tacoma, will get the AT-4Ws when they eventually wear out. Very happy with them on/off road and in the winter.
I have stock tacoma atm and ive been debating between falken at4w or toyo at3...im in the pnw lots of wet weather l, theyre saying toyo is better tire for said conditions but man im really liking the falken at4w look
At4w is overkill for a Tacoma, with the added weight of each tire. If anything, you’ll just get worse fuel economy.
@@victorvek5227 haven’t noticed any real decline
@@Deuce_Dufresne He's talking about the NEW AT4W's, not the AT3W's you have. They significantly increased the weight on them. The model you have, is now discontinued. Be aware that if you opt for the new Wildpeaks, your gas mileage is definitely going to take a hit because now they are close to KO2 weight. I wouldn't recommend the new ones for Tacomas unless you don't care about MPG.
@@southernfried19 bummer, might go Toyo AT3 then when it’s time to replace
I made the switch from Toyo ATs to the new AT4s. My Toyo were wearing a lot faster vs the AT4s . I’m loving these tires on my tundra hybrid for towing
I'm running Falken 285/70/17 AT3w's on my 2000 4Runner and have about 40K miles on them. The tread depth still looks better than 50%. These are the best tires I've ever owned. I used to run BFG's and the Falkens are far superior in the snow, rain, dry and off road. I'm not a mud guy, so they haven't been exposed to a lot of that. I've had a few close calls on dry pavement and they have shown excellent traction in heavy braking and evasive maneuvering. Great tire...I'll certainly buy them again.
I’m thinking about putting the same size on my 4Runner. Torn between AT3W and AT4W because as you know the 4Runner is a bit underpowered and the AT4W is 7 pounds heavier per tire I think. That’s my only hang up. Either way I’m glad to hear they’re working out in this size on a 4Runner. You get any rubbing? What’s your lift?
@@Cortezuma I have a 2" lift with Bilstein 5100 shocks and Old Man Emu springs. I have a -10 offset on 17" x 8.5" rims. I also have the wide factory wheel well flares. I had to trim a small wedge on the front of the bottom of the flares approx 1/2" x 3" tall. The plastic wheel well liner sticks out about 1/2" to cover the pinch weld and I get a slight rub only in reverse at full lock of the steering wheel on the pinch weld bulge. It wasn't bad enough to do any modification to the liner or the pinch weld especially since it is only in reverse. I recommen the -10 offset wheels to help with clearance on the upper control arms. I also installed SPC adjustable upper control arms to help get the alignment close to factory spec. Had a vibration at 60 mph and installed a front diff drop to get the axel angle closer to stock...that solved the vibration. Diff drop kit from JEGS was about $35...2 long bolts and 2 spacer washers.
@@architypeone8646 Thanks man that’s extremely helpful!
I have same size on jeep gladiator, but since Rubicon is 4:10 gears, next likely be 285/75/R17 AT 4, tfl off-road gave them a poor review and I laughed at his snow ❄️ testing. I live in central Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 and I have no inhibitions about getting them.
How's the Road noise? Looking to get the same size for my Taco but my wife is very noise sensitive (with the hum). I'm currently running the stock highway tires that came with my Tacoma.
Nice video! I just got these tires, and they are new enough that there is not a lot of real data on them yet. Your video, and the way you went about creating it, was exactly what I was looking for. I have a 4Runner with these tires in a 285mm wide size, and they seem great so far. Thanks for sharing this data!!
Love those wheels
EXACTLY.
when the weather gets shitty and you need stability and traction (the whole point of a tire lol) you cant beat the Falkens
You have done alot of work on the this truck it looks awesome keep up the great video's..
I just ordered them today since the AT3W got discontinued. I’m getting them installed tomorrow
Looking at a similar wheel/tire set up for my F250? Would you share the wheel offset you have and the tire size? Also, what level or lift was needed for this setup to avoid any rubbing?
I have a F350 and the inside and outside of the front tires always go first. I have replaced ball joints and had the alignment checked multiple times. Of course the rear is a dully so they will last longer. the heave diesel engine takes a toll on tires.
Thanks for your revue. I'm getting 255/80/17's of the AT4W's installed next week on my new 2024 4Runner TRD-ORP.
how are the front tires doing?? you only focused on rears and I get it,, but nice to show both going forward.. how about feel when pullng like RV or heavy trailer and tire sway?? the 4W is a 3 ply side wall vs 2..
A longer warranty is more often than not just a sales tactic. 70% of customers never use their warranty is todays tire market and the manufacturers know that. That being said I’ve always been happy with my wildpeaks. Great bang for the buck tire.
One thing i find is you HAVE TO insist on adjustment of price on miles if the tire are at the 2/32 mark and are under the warranty miles..
If you are are at 55K on 60K miles at 2/32 where is not a lot of discount.. but at 30K on 2/32 there is almost half.. They will not make the adjustment you HAVE TO make them adjust..
Small world. Couldn’t help but notice your Facebook name on the back of the truck. I’m in bowling green myself. Started following you originally when researching the RT01. Been looking at those for my Bronco. Haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Either gonna be the falken RT or the Toyo RT trail. Leaning towards the falken.
Have you used these in snow? Curious to hear any opinions on snowy driving on these tires.
Great tires in the snow. That's what they are known for
@@TheDREWHEBERTWell, the A/T3Ws were known for good snow performance, but everyone’s talking about how the 4s seem to be a step back in that particular area, but people haven’t actually been through a winter with them to give accurate assessments yet.
My next set of tires very soon will be Falken. My current Toyo ATII Xtreme are at 7/32 at 25,000 miles on a Ram 2500.
Believe they changed the tread pattern in the middle of the tire to enhance wear from towing
Spent any time in the snow? How’d they perform might be getting a set for my new Tacoma
what is your daily PSI on these tires?? never mind I caught it at the end of the video.
i have 255/80r17 at3w on my colorado zr2. falken is everything you say. i have almost 50K and they look great. rocks, snow wet are all no problem. mud is meh. i'm wqaiting for them to wear out so i can get the at4w.
Just put a new set of AT4Ws on my '93 XJ at the beginning of April. New KO2s on my '03 F150 in late January. I split my time between the two vehicles. It'll be interesting to see how each holds up. The KO2s are my third set since leaving Goodyear Wranglers. Typically get about 40-45 on the KO2s before they start getting noisy as hell. Time will tell, but so far, I really like both tires. New Michelin Cross Climate 2s on my wife's Camry. Got 50k on the first iteration of the Cross Climates. To be honest, the Michelins are better than either off-road tire in wet weather and are pretty dang good in snow. Just don't have the ground clearance on the car to really have fun in the snow.
That psi is for max weight rating, aka while towing or hauling a load. Check out the video CJC did about tire pressures… you’ll love those tires event more around 45psi
Yeah I’m running 50 front 44 rear. 80 was bouncing me all over the road
I had the AT3s on my F-150 and after they get about 50,000 miles on them I want to go ahead and got new ones. Unfortunately Falken tires were on back order back closer to like 2020 - 21. I got some nitto recon grapplers and I'm not really happy with them. I got the AT4's on our Bronco now and we have two or three thousand miles on them and so far we love them
Trucks looks good brother. I'm a huge Falken fan. Have a lifted Ram with 35x12.50 AT3W's and at 25,000 they look like they are just beginning to wear.......maybe....they may not wear at this rate.
Have you noticed any decrease or increase in gas mileage when compared to the A/T 3's? Thank you in advance.
Really trying to decide between these or ko3s. Have Baja boss at currently and been phenomenal. Have 100k miles on them so far. Just want a load d instead of a e for my needs.
Also Yokohama Geolandar G017 XD AT tires are a good choice if they have your size.
I’ve had my AT4W’s for about 3k miles now, just rotated today since it was oil change time. Truck is a 24 Silverado 3500 Duramax SRW, weighs 8k empty.
I pull 20k with it getting my machine from site to site at least weekly.
Last tires I had were Yokohama geolandar X-AT’s, the rears didn’t last 10k. I have to run the rears at 70psi or the truck throws a low pressure message, even at that psi the Yokohamas sidewalls would pooch out a bit with the full tongue weight. The AT4W’s don’t budge. That’s something I need when pulling close to triple the weight of the truck. Same goes for the stability in cornering, I run 60psi up front and they show very little flex under side load while supporting the weight of that Duramax. Another big deal for me is the ratio of off-road grip needed to rolling resistance and wear. I think these AT4W’s are probably the industry leaders in that regard, it’s a true AT but with RT grip, in fact I think the only reason anyone would choose the RT01’s over these is for a more aggressive look. All in all, I’m thinking these are the bees knees for my truck and my application. I know a lot of off-roaders were upset that they made a much beefier, heavier and stiffer tire than the AT3W’s but that’s exactly what I needed, before these came out I wouldn’t even consider the AT3W’s.
Nice truck, tires look great, interesting to see how the 4s work out for Falken
Do you tow regularly?
The Japanese build pretty good tires.
Good looking truck
Would you or will you try a set of the KO3s when they are out?
I'm not a BFG fan. The KO and KO2 both were sub-par. Poor wear, poor traction, etc.
@4-LOW I didn't like the ko2s but they were serviceable.
I’ve used kos and ko2s dating back to the 90s. I’ve never had any issues with poor wear or poor traction. That’s one everything from 2500hd diesels to 4Runners. BFGs are very hard to beat.
@n2trkys18 I was ko2 for years til the falken came out with the at3 and at4. Sorry to say but falken beat them for me
How does it do towing?
I'm between these and the new KO3 for my 2012 F-250 farm truck. Sadly by 2012 fusion and 2017 forester also need new summer tires this year, so that's gonna suck. Not sure I'll put ATs on my fusion though 😂
Im at almost 50k on my AT3's..best tire I have owned to date on my all my trucks. I have 37 12.5 20's and wish they would make this size in the AT4's cause I am running out of tread.
I bought a set of these tires 3 years ago for my 2500 duramax. 30000 miles and really happy with them. I will buy again when I need tires.
They didn't have these 3 years ago
@@JRs-guitars not much difference in the at3 and at4 . Same basic tire. Thanks for being an ass.
No you didn't
Are they fairly quiet?
Hi! DID YOU HAVE BALANCING ISSUES?
Bought a set a month ago for my 2011 F150 FX4. I'm disappointed in the highway driving performac. The tires require a lot of driver attention to keep the truck on track compared to the Bridgestone Dueller Revos I had on it previously. I have to make small adjustments as if the steering is loose. I've had the car aligned by the top independent alignment shop in the area and the suspension checked, so this is not the issue. Has anyone else experienced this with these tires?
I noticed that they felt a little squirmy on the highway in my ‘21 Tundra TRD Pro. I was coming from a stock Michelin LTX A/T tire which is pretty tame though, so I’m not really sure if that had anything to do with that. I have about 5,000 miles on them now and I don’t really notice that issue anymore. I’m not sure if it had to do with letting the tires wear in, or if I’m just used to the handling characteristics now.
I notice when I switch lanes sometimes truck feels like it’s sliding over. Def could do better on the highway.performance
I just bought a new pair of these and my tread depth is only 15/32 on outer tire and 17/32 in center. I am disappointed to say the least
What size of tire are these and are they LT or SL or XL tires from Falken. If SL or XL are you worried you are running over max psi rating of about 50 psi?
You’re at 5k now , and plan on waiting another 3-4mths to rotate them ? And change your oil ? So like 8-10k ? Holy shit .
I Agree with you on your BF Goodrich TAKO 2 opinion.
What’s your take on the General Grabber ATX? I’ve got 50k on mine on a Super Duty and have loved them. Down to about 4-4.5 32nds. Down from 16 when new. Will be due for new ones again and contemplating something else or choosing General again.
What are the depths across the front tires? Are they the same?
What size are they? How was the MPG difference?Thanks.
I just put a set on my 24 Canyon. Ditched the Goodyear Territory AT's.
Awesome video! Compared to the Ridge grapplers which would you say is louder on highway use? Thanks
What offset are your wheels?
I have these on my gladiator and so far they are very smooth & quiet.
Can you tell me your wheel offset? I like the stance. Nice looking rig sir.
Just got a set! 285/70/17 116T
Have you noticed much of a difference in fuel economy with the A/T4W?
I’ve noticed a 1-1.5mpg drop on a SMALLER tire.
@@johnsierramusic It appears that a 7-10 percent loss in milage is about normal when going from a highway tire to an A/T tire on a truck.
I lost 1 MPG... probably due to size
In a standard size E rated 285/70/R17 these things weigh 10lbs more than KO3 and TOYO AT3 that’s 40lbs of extra rotational force and drag your trucks are trying to turn. Not only MPG is suffering. Your entire drive train and front end is suffering too. Sorry guys but I like lighter tires that do the exact same thing.
@@samazonprime3057 I have noticed the same thing with the tire weights. I think I will be going with the new KO3's. I have an new F150 powerboost ordered and would like to maintain as much fuel economy as possible with my A/T tire selection. The A/T4W's look nice but very heavy and I'm sure very tough also.
Just wish they weren't so heavy. They are ~10lbs heavier per tire compared to other AT tires
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How do they compare to Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac?
Goodyear Wranglers are garbage
Goodyear Wranglers are garbage
Just bought these tires and man do I feel sexy in my truck lmao
Would your tire pressure be off if the tire wear is worse on the edge? The Falkin M/T are less fun in the rain than the A/T3W.
I’m looking to get a new set for my 2020 JGC TH. I have narrowed it down to either Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T or the Falken Wildpeak A/T4W. I do about 50-50 city/highway and (serious) off-roading here in the States. No winter use of my Jeep, so no snow as I’m in Europe then (with a different Jeep there). Any thoughts y’all? I’m indecisive here! TIA😊
Flip a coin. Two great sets of tires.
@@tomcaldwell5914 that’s what I thought! Thanks.
Good info thank you
How are you liking your vision wheels? I think they might be my next set of wheels thanks to this video. They look awesome!
Great Vid tires look awesome is your truck stock height or lifted to run those 35s
In the next video you should show a method of how to remove paint overspray on a tire sidewall. I am fairly sure gasoline will remove it but that isn't the kindest to rubber, there are probably less aggressive compounds that can be used. Never tried liquid buffing compound other than on the wax type marker used to mark tires.
I didn't mask off the tire because paint won't stick for long. The rubber releases the overspray naturally.
@@4-LOW Interesting, that has not been the same experience I have had if I didn't mask perfectly, also have seen purpose painted sidewalls in stripes to allow one to see the tire turning ( winter time with frozen brakes on a trailer ) and that paint just hung on. I would imagine it depends on the properties in the paint. On the other hand had they been worn out tires ... then it wouldn't matter in the least as the tires would hit the scrap tire pile. Masking tires is a total pain in the butt though, I'm sure you know all about that LOL.
Is your truck lifted/leveled
100,000 miles on my falkens mt
What’s your trailer weight?
Very impressed by the Nitto Ridge Grappler AT in Light Truck configuration (ie the highest ply and load capicity versus passenger rated - i think in the US they refer to Light Truck by another name). Keen to try Wildpeak AT3 in light truck also. The Duratrac is good but after 30,000 miles the Ridge Grappler seem slightly better. Wildpeaks are incredibly popular in Australia. Cheers
Are these rated at the 80 psi ??
did falken pay you to make this video? I'm on the fence between open country RT's or these AT4W's
OC RTs are good tires but I prefer the Wildpeaks as they're are better in the rain and snow.
Nice Truck.
Nice Truck! What size are those tires and is your truck lifted?
The extra silica makes them softer
4k on mine. Wearing pretty good
I’ve got 53k on my AT3s and will easily get 60k on them before needing to replace.
Did they decrease your gas mileage?
My 250 increased by a mile or 2 and I went from stock 265/70r17 to 285/75r17
What air pressure are you running in these.
I got a set 4 weeks ago. I’m running 50 front 44 rear. Seems ok still testing. Their load range E shop filled them to 80 and they about bounced me to death
Truck looks great! Do you run those psi's you stated empty and loaded? Great video.
The wildpeaks are too heavy and hard hence why they last long. Think about it in an off road context, though. I’d rather have a more pliable and soft tire that airs down well and molds over rocks and lugs instead of a harder tire that lasts 65k miles.
Crocs? I can trust a guy in Crocs.
Definitely trustworthy if you can weld in them...
Need to buy a decent Ute with power
You need some wheelwell liners
I have them. Didn't you see?
@@4-LOW no that’s why I said you need some
Japanese owned companies always provide better value/quality than American companies. It’s not a coincidence that Falken happens to give you a good tire for the money. All the Japanese companies make good stuff. KYB struts, Hitachi parts, Denso parts…..even fishing gear like reels I buy Japanese because the quality for price exceeds American or other brands. The culture of corporate greed is an American thing so consumers suffer when forced to buy American.
My fronts still wear out faster on my 4x4 silverado.
Heavy tires though. Not good for my underpowered Jeep. Or for anyone’s gas mileage on any vehicle.
Front tires wear faster
Hey guys I know everything about these types of tires. I’ve owned them all…
But guys wait… I’ve never had them on a heavy duty truck…
lol lol clown shoes…
That's not a "heavy duty" truck. It's not even a medium duty truck. It's a light duty class 2 truck.
And I suppose you daily a semi? He said heavy duty pickup truck
@@noahd4039 My ex US Marine MARSOC Raiders 2007 Oshkosh MTVR AMK23 armored 6x6 gun truck is a heavy duty class 8 truck.
@@noahd4039 Lol. Since you asked, my ex US Marine MARSOC Raiders 2007 Oshkosh MTVR AMK23 armored 6x6 gun truck IS a heavy duty class 8 truck.
The tires are 53" tall. We look DOWN into 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs on the interstate. I have to be careful at stop lights, because if I'm stopped behind a light-duty pickup like that F250, I might not even be able to see it, and I don't want to risk running over it accidentally when the light turns green.
The MTVR is powered by a 732 cubic inch (12 liter) CAT intercooled turbodiesel with 1,550 foot-pounds of torque.
You could put two "deuce and a half" 2-1/2 ton 6x6 trucks in the bed of our MTVR, and we'd still have several tons of payload capacity left over.
You could load down a 5-ton 6x6 truck to it's maximum payload capacity by putting 10,000 pounds of stuff in it's bed, and then put the maxxed-out 5-ton 6x6 truck in the bed of our MTVR, and we still wouldn't be over our maximum GVWR.
Why do Ram 2500s get Heavy Duty badges?
@4-LOW The same reason Ford puts "Super Duty" on their light-duty pickups- to get people to buy them.
Light duty trucks are class 1, 2, and 3 trucks with GVWRs up to 14,000 pounds.
Medium duty trucks are class 4, 5, and 6 trucks with GVWRs up to 26,000 pounds.
Heavy duty trucks are class 7 and 8 trucks with GVWRs over 26,000 pounds.
For example, my ex U.S. Marine MARSOC Raiders 2007 Oshkosh MTVR AMK23 armored 6x6 gun truck is a heavy duty class 8 truck with a GVWR of 62,200 pounds. The double-beadlocked runflat tires are 53" tall. The 732 cubic inch (12 liter) CAT intercooled turbodiesel has 1,550 foot-pounds of torque. We look DOWN into 18-wheel tractor-trailer rigs on the interstate. If I pull up at a stop light behind a light duty pickup like the one in this video, I may not be able to see it over my hood, so I have to remember it's there so I don't accidentally run over it when the light turns green.
get to the point, ok boomer
you even pronouncing the company's name incorrectly, video is trash
That psi is for max weight rating, aka while towing or hauling a load. Check out the video CJC did about tire pressures… you’ll love those tires event more around 45psi.